Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >
> > A new one will be hard to come by, as well as
> ££
> > ;)
> >
> > Best bet would be www.ebay.co.uk
> >
> 
> Usually it's the first place to look of course, I
> just don't know the best kind
> to look for, given the age of the LC.

Anything over 4x speed should work OK.

Download the first item here



That's an older version of FWB CD-ROM Toolkit that
works from at least System 7.1 through Mac OS 9.2.2.

I know it works with 9.2.2 because I used it on my
7300 to run a Pioneer 6-disc CD changer.

The HDT PE2 is an older version of FWB Hard Disk
Toolkit Personal Edition, which'll come in handy
for formatting your hard drive.

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Re: Hosting on the web.

[Quinn Evans]

 A/UX is a nice little system, fun to play with. Apache is even 
available for it. It does have some security holes, but many of them 
have patches, available on the Jagubox mirrors (one mirror still in 
existence is at ftp://ftp.geo.tu-freiberg.de/). Also note that most of 
the people who could crack System V died with the dinosaurs, so you 
probably have to worry about the 7.0.1 side more than the Unix side of 
things, which is to say, you needn't worry much. If I remember 
correctly, GCC is also officially compatible up to GCC v3.0, and I 
think 3.1 works, too, although A/UX is marked as 'obsoleted' in this 
version.

 Hope This Helps,
  Quinn Evans
On lunes, mayo 9, 2005, at 09:42 US/Mountain, Jeff Grant wrote:
Hello all,
I've been hosting a small hobby website (www.cheapotech.net) running
MacHTTP and MacOS 8.1 on a LC 475.  Sometimes it's stable for weeks,
and other times it crashes after a day or so.  I'm running a minimal
extension set with this machine. Would it be better to go back to a
previous system (7.5-7.6 etc)?  The other option is to switch to
debian linux.  I've also recently turned up a copy of A/UX 3.1 which
I'd like to try out, but I hear it's not very secure at all.  Any info
would be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Jeff

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Re: Hosting on the web.

[Thomas Burns]

Absolutely. I'm running a IIci under 8.1, headless with Quid Pro Quo and Net 
Presenz.
Also running an SE/30 under 7.5.5 with Quid ProQuo and an SE under 7.5.5 
with MacHTTP.

I'm still trying to find the time to get this old Mac 512k modified with a 
SCSI and 2mbs of ram to work as a server. I've fiddled with it a bit under 
6.0.8 but haven't gotten anything to connect.

There's a whole list of old 68k sites here http://macintosh.luddite.ca/
Thomas
- Original Message - 
From: "Juan Carlos De La Cruz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Hosting on the web.


Greetings!!
After reading this post, I became interested too.
Is there a way I could run my Mac II ci as a Web Server on the Internet? 
I would only need the basic http publishing services, as well as some FTP 
access to update the website every once in a while.

I am currently running 7.6 and would like to know if there is any third 
party app orif not, what would I need to have and know for doing so? I' d 
be more than glad to put little II ci to work as a web server since I have 
the facilities to host

can it work headless/keyboardless (As in a hosting server colocation 
environment, for an instance?)

Greets
JC.
On 09/05/2005, at 11:42 AM, Jeff Grant wrote:
Hello all,
I've been hosting a small hobby website (www.cheapotech.net) running
MacHTTP and MacOS 8.1 on a LC 475.  Sometimes it's stable for weeks,
and other times it crashes after a day or so.  I'm running a minimal
extension set with this machine. Would it be better to go back to a
previous system (7.5-7.6 etc)?  The other option is to switch to
debian linux.  I've also recently turned up a copy of A/UX 3.1 which
I'd like to try out, but I hear it's not very secure at all.  Any info
would be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Jeff
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Re: Hosting on the web.

[Liam Proven]

On 5/9/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings!!
> 
> After reading this post, I became interested too.
> 
> Is there a way I could run my Mac II ci as a Web Server on the
> Internet?  I would only need the basic http publishing services, as
> well as some FTP access to update the website every once in a while.
> 
> I am currently running 7.6 and would like to know if there is any third
> party app orif not, what would I need to have and know for doing so? I'
> d be more than glad to put little II ci to work as a web server since I
> have the facilities to host

It will do it, certainly. MacHHTP is a suitable web server, as the
original post said.
I would recommend that you patch it to MacOS 7.6.1 as soon as possible
- it's a free download.

I have read that traditional Mac TCP/IP is much quicker than
OpenTransport on older Macs with 68030 processors, tho' I've not
notice much difference myself. This means using MacTCP. It's pretty
simple and you should find a tool on your 7.6 CD called "Network
Software Switcher" to make the change.

However, OpenTransport is right there, integrated, and it works, so it
might be best to get started with that.

> can it work headless/keyboardless (As in a hosting server colocation
> environment, for an instance?)

Good question! I have no idea. Try it and see, I can't see how it
would do any harm!

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Re: Hosting on the web.

[Steve]

I have not done this yet, but I plan to. I think the best *nix environment
is NetBSD (unless there is a FreeBSD build for classic Macs). I did some
research and digging on the web and the BSD's seem to be "the best" and as
a real unix it'd be superior to a Linux IMO.




-Original Message-
From: Juan Carlos De La Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:23:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Hosting on the web.

> Greetings!!
> 
> After reading this post, I became interested too.
> 
> Is there a way I could run my Mac II ci as a Web Server on the 
> Internet?  I would only need the basic http publishing services, as 
> well as some FTP access to update the website every once in a while.
> 
> I am currently running 7.6 and would like to know if there is any third
> party app orif not, what would I need to have and know for doing so? I'
> d be more than glad to put little II ci to work as a web server since I
> have the facilities to host
> 
> can it work headless/keyboardless (As in a hosting server colocation 
> environment, for an instance?)
> 
> Greets
> 
> JC.
> 
> On 09/05/2005, at 11:42 AM, Jeff Grant wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been hosting a small hobby website (www.cheapotech.net) running
> > MacHTTP and MacOS 8.1 on a LC 475.  Sometimes it's stable for weeks,
> > and other times it crashes after a day or so.  I'm running a minimal
> > extension set with this machine. Would it be better to go back to a
> > previous system (7.5-7.6 etc)?  The other option is to switch to
> > debian linux.  I've also recently turned up a copy of A/UX 3.1 which
> > I'd like to try out, but I hear it's not very secure at all.  Any
> info
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
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Re: Hosting on the web.

[Juan Carlos De La Cruz]

Greetings!!
After reading this post, I became interested too.
Is there a way I could run my Mac II ci as a Web Server on the 
Internet?  I would only need the basic http publishing services, as 
well as some FTP access to update the website every once in a while.

I am currently running 7.6 and would like to know if there is any third 
party app orif not, what would I need to have and know for doing so? I' 
d be more than glad to put little II ci to work as a web server since I 
have the facilities to host

can it work headless/keyboardless (As in a hosting server colocation 
environment, for an instance?)

Greets
JC.
On 09/05/2005, at 11:42 AM, Jeff Grant wrote:
Hello all,
I've been hosting a small hobby website (www.cheapotech.net) running
MacHTTP and MacOS 8.1 on a LC 475.  Sometimes it's stable for weeks,
and other times it crashes after a day or so.  I'm running a minimal
extension set with this machine. Would it be better to go back to a
previous system (7.5-7.6 etc)?  The other option is to switch to
debian linux.  I've also recently turned up a copy of A/UX 3.1 which
I'd like to try out, but I hear it's not very secure at all.  Any info
would be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Jeff
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Hosting on the web.

[Jeff Grant]

Hello all,

I've been hosting a small hobby website (www.cheapotech.net) running
MacHTTP and MacOS 8.1 on a LC 475.  Sometimes it's stable for weeks,
and other times it crashes after a day or so.  I'm running a minimal
extension set with this machine. Would it be better to go back to a
previous system (7.5-7.6 etc)?  The other option is to switch to
debian linux.  I've also recently turned up a copy of A/UX 3.1 which
I'd like to try out, but I hear it's not very secure at all.  Any info
would be greatly appreciated.

TIA,

Jeff

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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Dylan McDermond]

On May 9, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Dylan McDermond wrote:
I've found that just about any SCSI CD-ROM will work with my older  
Macs - as long as I use the proper extension. The one from 7.6, I  
believe, would work with any CD-ROM drive. If you end up needing  
the extension, let me know and I can email it to you.

-Dylan
Forgot to mention that I've found several at secon-hand shops, garage  
and surplus sales. Usually under $5 USD.

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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Dylan McDermond]

On May 9, 2005, at 3:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I  
have - I assume
it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the  
direction of
one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.

Nathan
I've found that just about any SCSI CD-ROM will work with my older  
Macs - as long as I use the proper extension. The one from 7.6, I  
believe, would work with any CD-ROM drive. If you end up needing the  
extension, let me know and I can email it to you.

-Dylan
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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Manuel Marques]

J.S. Garrison wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an
LCIII that I have - I assume
it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone
point me in the direction of
one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.
Nathan

Apple makes a couple I've used. The external 300
series, a caddy-style CD ROM where your CD fits in a
plastic holder which then fits in the CD ROM; and the
600 series which is a tray-loading cd machine.
Other externals can be made to work. I used FWB CD ROM
Tool Kit Software which let the Mac "see" some types
of CD ROMs not made by Apple. FWB will only work with
up to OS 8, I think, before causing system problems.
Jeff
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Yeps. Apple CD 300 is caddy-style, but with luck you could get the 300i 
unit, which is tray-loaded. I don't have a 600, but it will probably 
work faster.
Btw, I've also used a borrowed LaCie CD-RW (when my CD-ROM unit stopped 
working), and it worked fine! (But don't even think of burning CDs, even 
on a Quadra 800 it only works in certain special conditions, and only up 
to 8x!)

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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[J.S. Garrison]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an
> LCIII that I have - I assume
> it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone
> point me in the direction of
> one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.
> 
> Nathan


Apple makes a couple I've used. The external 300
series, a caddy-style CD ROM where your CD fits in a
plastic holder which then fits in the CD ROM; and the
600 series which is a tray-loading cd machine.

Other externals can be made to work. I used FWB CD ROM
Tool Kit Software which let the Mac "see" some types
of CD ROMs not made by Apple. FWB will only work with
up to OS 8, I think, before causing system problems.


Jeff

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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Manuel Marques]

Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote:
I have used for years, not only on my old LC III (Which I currently 
don´t have any longer) but on my II si and II ci, an external SCSI box 
(Any one will do as long as you can end in the correct SCSI connector 
end at the mac) with a Nec MultiSpin 3x which is very old (CDs are 
inserted into it via a cartridge and not directly tray style), but 
have also tried with several other diff units, as a Ricoh MediaMaster 
CDR/RW I sometimes use on other equipment, and the results ahve been 
the same. Please notice I have been using system 7.6 on the LC III as 
well as the IIci/IIsi

My humble 2 cents.
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:24 AM
Subject: External CD ROM Drives

I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have 
- I assume
it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the 
direction of
one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.

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I own a LCIII with an external Apple 2x SCSI CD-ROM. The unit uses old 
cartdriges to insert the CD-ROM. When the one that I had simply blew up, 
I searched eBay and I got an unit (with the same characteristics) for 
$5. But I don't recommend that! I live in Portugal, and I paid 10 times 
more ($50) for shipping! And I was lucky, because it passed customs! 
Search on eBay for drives in UK (besides USA and Canada, that's the 
country that has more products for sale), and good luck!
Hope I was helpful

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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Juan Carlos De La Cruz]

I have used for years, not only on my old LC III (Which I currently don´t 
have any longer) but on my II si and II ci, an external SCSI box (Any one 
will do as long as you can end in the correct SCSI connector end at the mac) 
with a Nec MultiSpin 3x which is very old (CDs are inserted into it via a 
cartridge and not directly tray style), but have also tried with several 
other diff units, as a Ricoh MediaMaster CDR/RW I sometimes use on other 
equipment, and the results ahve been the same. Please notice I have been 
using system 7.6 on the LC III as well as the IIci/IIsi

My humble 2 cents.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:24 AM
Subject: External CD ROM Drives


I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I 
assume
it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the 
direction of
one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.

Nathan
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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[nas]

Quoting Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> A new one will be hard to come by, as well as ££
> ;)
>
> Best bet would be www.ebay.co.uk
>

Usually it's the first place to look of course, I just don't know the best kind
to look for, given the age of the LC.

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Re: External CD ROM Drives

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an
> LCIII that I have - I assume
> it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone
> point me in the direction of
> one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.

A new one will be hard to come by, as well as ££
;)

Best bet would be www.ebay.co.uk

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External CD ROM Drives

[nas]

I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume
it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of
one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK.

Nathan

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