Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hey all,
Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).  There is no hard 
drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there anything specific to 
know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never owned a II 
anything before.


Also, what do you think is a fair price?

Thanks,
Kyle-


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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Shaun Reynolds
Hi Kyle,

I don't know too much about termination for an internal SCSI HD, but I
can say that the II case will accept any 3.5 or a half-height 5.25
drive. You'd want a 50-pin SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 (I know the SCSI-1 will
work, not sure about SCSI-2) connector. I do believe that SCSI-2 also
has a 50-pin connector. Someone can jump in and correct me on this...

Because of the age of the machine, I cannot personally see paying more
than $50 including shipping for a Mac II. Of course, I don't know what
these machines are worth, and if they ARE worth more, then I am a
cheapskate. :)

Best,

 -Shaun


On 10/19/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,
 Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).  There is no hard
 drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there anything specific to
 know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never owned a II
 anything before.

 Also, what do you think is a fair price?

 Thanks,
 Kyle-


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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Scott Baret
You can put either a 3.5 or a 5.25 hard drive in a
Mac II. I've seen both configurations in action.
Brackets are available for either.

Also make sure you have an additional floppy on hand
in case the one you get has only one drive installed.
Although this isn't necessary it's nice for making
backups of important disks (and when disks get old
they get unreliable so make your backups). A stock
regular II can only use 800K drives though. 

I'm currently working on a II myself (it will be a
server for a platoon of compact Macs I recently
acquired). Make sure your II has a good video card and
make sure you know how to solder batteries in. A II
will not start if it doesn't have two good batteries.
It uses the same small 3.6V batteries that most of the
other Macs use.

Scott

--- Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey all,
 Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original). 
 There is no hard 
 drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there
 anything specific to 
 know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never
 owned a II 
 anything before.
 
 Also, what do you think is a fair price?
 
 Thanks,
 Kyle-
 
 
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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi Scott,
Thanks for your reply.  Would the bracket from an LC III work?  I have 
a spare.  I would imagine so...


I do not have an extra floppy drive, actually.  The one I will be 
getting only has one drive.  However, most of my disks are 1.4 MB, so 
an 800k drive won't be too much help ;-)


I am working on getting an Apple 8/24 something video card, along with 
a few others... It seems to fit the bill.


I can probably steal some PRAM batteries from other Macs, until I can 
make my own batteries.  I think you are referring to the process of 
using AA batteries soldered together, right?  Or, are the batteries in 
the Mac II soldered in?  It didn't look like it...


Anyone have any idea of value?

Thanks,
Kyle-

On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:18 PM, Scott Baret wrote:


You can put either a 3.5 or a 5.25 hard drive in a
Mac II. I've seen both configurations in action.
Brackets are available for either.

Also make sure you have an additional floppy on hand
in case the one you get has only one drive installed.
Although this isn't necessary it's nice for making
backups of important disks (and when disks get old
they get unreliable so make your backups). A stock
regular II can only use 800K drives though.

I'm currently working on a II myself (it will be a
server for a platoon of compact Macs I recently
acquired). Make sure your II has a good video card and
make sure you know how to solder batteries in. A II
will not start if it doesn't have two good batteries.
It uses the same small 3.6V batteries that most of the
other Macs use.

Scott

--- Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey all,
Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).
There is no hard
drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there
anything specific to
know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never
owned a II
anything before.

Also, what do you think is a fair price?

Thanks,
Kyle-





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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi Shaun,

I have a 160 meg drive from an LC 475 that I could probably spare, at 
least long enough for the project I am using this thing for.


$40 - $50 shipped is in the range I am paying.  It seems like a cool 
lil' machine.  By the way, I have never seen one on eBay to check 
prices against.



Thanks,
Kyle-


On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Shaun Reynolds wrote:


Hi Kyle,

I don't know too much about termination for an internal SCSI HD, but I
can say that the II case will accept any 3.5 or a half-height 5.25
drive. You'd want a 50-pin SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 (I know the SCSI-1 will
work, not sure about SCSI-2) connector. I do believe that SCSI-2 also
has a 50-pin connector. Someone can jump in and correct me on this...

Because of the age of the machine, I cannot personally see paying more
than $50 including shipping for a Mac II. Of course, I don't know what
these machines are worth, and if they ARE worth more, then I am a
cheapskate. :)

Best,

 -Shaun


On 10/19/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey all,
Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).  There is no hard
drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there anything specific 
to

know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never owned a II
anything before.

Also, what do you think is a fair price?

Thanks,
Kyle-






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Mac II series was: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Ben Franske
Anyone needing Mac II series parts or systems please contact me I've 
inherited a quantity (mostly IIci's) and am more than happy to work 
something out with you, especially if you have something (Apple II's???) 
to trade. Same goes for LCs and LC parts.


-Ben Franske

Kyle Koerner wrote:


Hi Shaun,

I have a 160 meg drive from an LC 475 that I could probably spare, at 
least long enough for the project I am using this thing for.


$40 - $50 shipped is in the range I am paying.  It seems like a cool 
lil' machine.  By the way, I have never seen one on eBay to check 
prices against.



Thanks,
Kyle-



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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Shaun Reynolds
On 10/19/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Shaun,

 I have a 160 meg drive from an LC 475 that I could probably spare, at
 least long enough for the project I am using this thing for.


That would work perfectly!

Are you planning on networking the II with other systems (like that
nifty LC 475)? You might want to look into a Mac II with an Ethernet
card already installed. Although, I am willing to bet money that the
system will have one. This is all assuming that the other networked
systems have Ethernet capabilities.

 $40 - $50 shipped is in the range I am paying.  It seems like a cool
 lil' machine.  By the way, I have never seen one on eBay to check
 prices against.


It's a cool big machine! ;) I have a Mac IIfx and I just LOVE it.
Okay, so that's quite a bit different than the II, but still, they
share the same case.

You would be buying this outright then? Reason I ask is that some
sellers on eBay seem to be ripping the buyers off on shipping. Get
this: I once saw someone trying to sell a PowerBook with a fixed
shipping charge of $50!! Come on, there is no way that an eight pound
PowerBook could possibly cost that much to ship. Unless it's shipped
in a large iron box, or the packing materials are gold bars!

 Thanks,
 Kyle-

I am curious about the PRAM batteries myself. Scott, are the batteries
the kind that need to be soldered to the motherboard? This comes as no
surprise, the early SE's had that kind of setup. And since the II came
out with the SE...

 -Shaun

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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread coolrays
on 10/19/05 8:46 PM, Kyle Koerner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Shaun,
 
 I have a 160 meg drive from an LC 475 that I could probably spare, at
 least long enough for the project I am using this thing for.
 
 $40 - $50 shipped is in the range I am paying.  It seems like a cool
 lil' machine.  By the way, I have never seen one on eBay to check
 prices against.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Kyle-
 
 

I just sold three 160MB Apple HD's for $6 on eBay.

r


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