External SCSI drive
I picked up an old Apple 40SC external hard drive. The previous owner has replaced the drive with a 1GB drive. When I connect this unit to my SE/30, the SE/30 will not boot from its own internal HD, I get the flashing system disk with ? symbol in it. If I disconnect the drive and restart, it works fine. With the computer up and running, if I connect the external drive to the SE/30, the SE/30 will lock up. If I unplug the drive the SE/30 becomes responsive again. I then tried the drive with my 540c Powerbook and I get the exact same symptoms. My final test is with my quirky 5300cs Powerbook. With it, the PB booted and the Hard Disk Tools could see the drive and reported the size and make of the drive correctly. However, I received all kinds of OSErr's when I tried to initialize the drive. Now my 5300cs is back on the fritz and I'm unable to use it right now. I'm new to SCSI so I'm not sure what the problem could be. I'm using an active terminator on the drive and I set it to ID 1, then I tried 3, then I tried 6. All three with the same problem. I've also tried different SCSI HD's in the box, all power up, but cause erratic behavior on whatever Mac its connected to. Some of the HD's I have I've been unable to find any info on jumper settings. On two drives I have, both Quantums, I found a website listing the jumper settings. My understanding is the internal HD's on Macs are SCSI ID 0. So I set both drives up to be SCSI ID 1. Any ideas? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
Well, it turns out the problem was no driver. As you suggested, I copied the driver from another Mac and on reboot the CD popped up on the desktop and worked just fine. I even put it on a boot floppy and the drive works booting from the floppy too. Thanks On May 11, 2004, at 3:47 AM, Daniel Kendell wrote: You might want to check in the Extensions folder in your system folder and make sure the Apple CDROM extension is there. If it isn't then thats why you don't get any CD icon, just copy it from your PowerBook system folder. If it is there then its something else. Yes you can use a CD-ROM drive with 7.0.1. Dan --- The Macintosh Council http://www.macintoshcouncil.tk -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
On May 10, 2004, at 9:02 PM, Ken wrote: In addition to making sure that all SCSI devices have different IDs, make sure that you have a terminator in the external drive. Ken All my tests were done with both an active terminator and a passive passthrough terminator on the drive. For kicks I had also tried it without any terminator. All with the same results. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
On May 10, 2004, at 7:30 PM, Michael Hackett wrote: This suggests that you might be missing the Apple CD driver on the other systems. But did the drive work on the 7300 (which probably already has the driver installed, if it has an internal CD drive)? I found a link to an Apple CD driver for System 7.5, however I've yet to find one for System 7.0.1 (and 6.0.8 for that matter). I have a couple of compact Macs running 6.0.8 and 7.0.1. I've checked the Apple old software downloads section and didn't find anything. Is it even possible to use a CD-ROM drive with Macs running 7.0.1 and earlier? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
I've got an Apple 300e CD-ROM drive. I've got two cables, the standard DB25 to C50 and the special Powerbook connector to C50. With the PB cable the drive works with my 5300cs just fine. I put CD's in the drive and the CD pops p on the desktop and I can copy files from the CD to the PB and/or run them from CD. The 5300 is running MacOS 8.1. So I know the CD-ROM drive itself is in working order. However, when I then connect the CD-ROM drive to a Mac SE/30 running 7.5.5 using the DB25 to C50 cable no CD pops up on the desktop. I then tried the drive with a regular SE and then on a Classic. The SE and Classic were running 7.0.1 and neither indicated they were seeing the CD. I then began to suspect the cable, so I plugged the drive intoa Power Mac 7300. Doing so causes the computer to lockup after it gets to the desktop. On the compact Macs and the Powerbook I had the drive setup as device #3. Since the PM already has an internal SCSI CD on #3, I set the 300e to #5. I've never used external SCSI devices before. Is my hunch that the cable is bad correct, or am I missing a config or compatibility issue? Since the cables are relatively cheap I ordered another one online so I can test my hunch. Oh, almost forgot, I have an active SCSI terminator plugged into the 300e's other SCSI port (top one). -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com