Re: Clearing out unused extra memory after closing IE 4.01 and/or OE4.01
Jim Lee Jr. wrote: Folks, I notice that approximately 5MB or so of RAM does not clear out after I use IE 4.01 and/or OE 4.01. My Performa 550 has 36MB RAM, and should have about 28MB to 31MB RAM free, depending on how much MacOS 7.5.5 uses at a given time. 32 bit addressing is on, virtual memory and the RAM disk are off, and the disk cache is 1MB. How can I clear out the extra unused RAM every time I close IE4 and OE4? Any help is appreciated. Stop using shoddily written Microsloth programs?? Either that or restart your Mac after each use. -- Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician www.FrankenMac.com Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern...do you know what it is? A virus. --Agent Smith, from the Matrix. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ethernet of a 6100
On Sunday, October 14, 2001, at 07:19 AM, Robert Poland wrote: On 10/13/2001, Gregg Eshelman wrote: You don't need Ethernet NB since that is for NuBus NICs. Run the AppleTalk control panel and set it to Ethernet. Don't know what a NIC is but I removed Ethernet NB from all machines. A NIC is what a PC user calls an ethernet card. It's short for Network Interface Card. PC users have been forced to add these cards to their machines because the PC maufacturers haven't been as kind as Apple was by including a Network port on their Mobo's Kyle H. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Where's JMUG?
Bob C. wrote: Anybody know what's happening with JMUG? I haven't been able to access POP3 mail there with my account for two days. Sam is revamping the server. It should be up any minute now. -- Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician www.FrankenMac.com Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern...do you know what it is? A virus. --Agent Smith, from the Matrix. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: floppy cleaning?
Andrew Michael MacTao wrote: Iechyd Da, All right. If no one else is gonna ask. Are you Welsh Andew? -- Kyle H. Hansen JESUS SAVES!...but Gretzsky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Welsh (was floppy cleaning?)
Andrew Michael MacTao wrote: Andrew Michael MacTao wrote: Iechyd Da, Kyle asked: All right. If no one else is gonna ask. Are you Welsh Andew? Er, no. My ex-roomie was. Actually, she was Irish, but, spend most of her adult life in Wales speaks fluent Welsh Gaelic. Along with Irish, Spanish and I believe Portuguese. Iechyd Da, (Good Health) (used similarly to Cheers!) Andrew I know what Iechyd Da means. That's why I was asking if you were Welsh. -- Kyle H. Hansen JESUS SAVES!...but Gretzsky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Take a deep breath, relax. :)
Andrew Michael MacTao wrote: Rob Rosenbrock wrote: Has anyone looked up the definition of heathen? It was used correctly - Atheism isn't a religion, but a lack of religion. Yes. According to my dictionary, Heathen means anyone who hasn't readily accepted one of the 3 major Religions: Christianity, Judaism, Islam. So, Heathen would include anyone who has no Religion (for whatever reason) As well as anyone who has chosen any of the other Religions, Buddhist, Taoist, Hindu, Shinto, etc. Thus: A statement like, Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Heathen alike... Would literally mean, Everyone. I was sitting here wondering why my unsub request still hasn't been processed (maybe because of the fact that it's the weekend?) and then I saw this quote. You only quoted the definition that was convenient to your point Andrew. The 2nd definition listed in the Oxford dictionary is: Heathen: An unenlightened person, one regarded as lacking culture or moral principles. That's the one that set me off. Not because I had to look it up to understand (I knew the definition years ago), but because that is the meaning that most Christians point at others. -- Kyle H. Hansen JESUS SAVES!...but Gretzsky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Good words from the web.
Steve Moody wrote: At 8:12 AM -0400 9/22/01, Amber Rhea wrote: appropriate. (FWIW, I wasn't offended or anything by the posting - actually, I liked it and what it had to say - until it got to the heathen part. Which is the thing that bugged Kyle, too. With good reason!) -And I'm You and Kyle are both over reacting in a big way. Gregg's post read, We of every Nation, Race, and Religion -- Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, and heathen. This is in no way a negative reflection on atheism (or alternative beliefs). It is simply inclusion in the list of ideals that he gave. Perhaps you would do better to complain if he had excluded you from his list? Your knee-jerk reaction to the mere presence of the word makes me wonder if you are truly comfortable with your beliefs. --- That being said, and having been fussed at a few times for being off topic, I'll make a lame attempt to approach the boundaries of the list: Word Perfect: I did a search but have failed. Does anyone know where a legal copy can be downloaded? Even though you just insulted me, I have a full install floppy set of word perfect 6 if you want it. By the way, I am very comfortable with my beliefs, and I still felt insulted by Gregg's contribution to the list. Let it go. I have. -- Kyle Hansen And now for an ignorant and scary quote...Jerry Falwell on the World Trade Center attacks: The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we made god mad. I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle...the ACLU and People for the American Way..all of them who tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say you helped this happen. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Good words from the web.
Steve Moody wrote: At 12:00 PM -0700 9/22/01, Kyle Hansen wrote: Even though you just insulted me, I have a full install floppy set of word perfect 6 if you want it. By the way, I am very comfortable with my beliefs, and I still felt insulted by Gregg's contribution to the list. Let it go. I have. As with Gregg's message there was no intent to insult. You made the choice on your own to be insulted. Bullshit. Heres the real deal Steve. Let this put this OT stuff to rest ok? With war looming, Atheists and believers of alternate faiths are sucking on the candlelight vigils, prayer circles and yet another rendition of God Bless America and trying to keep our mouths closed as people blame other religions (Islam) for these attacks. In trying times like these, people always look for calm in their religious symbols, be it God, Allah, Buddha or Joe Montana. I dont blame people for the comfort faith brings them. It's the exclusion of all things secular that pisses me off, especially when it seems many flag-wavers and head-bowers now are equating patriotism with piety. That just isnt the case. More than 15% of our society (and this list) are Atheists. Similar to the amount of people that use Macs versus PCs. If a PC user was ranting over and over about their operating system it would piss you off. I guarantee that. Think about the way you feel when some PC geek is telling you how great their new AMD Athlon processor is. Ok. Thats how I feel. Thats why the term heathen offended me. All the heartfelt God Bless America renditions, all the scripture read at vigils makes us that are non religious feel alienated. Where are we to grieve? Just when it seems like a group of people is gathering together to grieve for this horrible situation OUT COME THE BIBLES. And every time a Jerry Falwell type suggests the faithless had a hand in the tragedy, I feel that my patriotism is under attack. If prayer works for people, great, do it, but don't exclude us atheists in the grand scheme. We're American and just as patriotic as anyone. I served in combat twice for this country, and I feel that in the eyes of many I am nothing, because I am not a Christian. I feel the hatred. It bothers me. -- Kyle Hansen And now for an ignorant and scary quote...Jerry Falwell on the World Trade Center attacks: The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we made god mad. I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle...the ACLU and People for the American Way..all of them who tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say you helped this happen. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Good words from the web.
Andrew Michael MacPoo wrote: Kyle Hansen wrote: Oh Crap. Heathen? How about Atheist? Agnostic? Heretic? Someone who refuses to believe inaccurate romance novel drivel like the bible? The bible is fiction... snip Kyle, this is a Mac list. Keep your hate mongering, anti-Spiritual drivel to yourself. Hate mongering??? You have no idea what kind of person I am. I am spiritual in my own ways. I just don't follow the minions with the Christianity thing. I'm not a lemming. Furthermore who the hell died and made you the Vintage listmom? If you want a fight. and it seems like you do. I just don't like being labeled a heathen on a list. Bite me. --Kyle Hansen -- JESUS SAVES!!!...but Gretzsky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The New York Attack
Anders Anna-Lee Fager wrote: I always wonder about what possesses people in their right mind to even consider training the arts of fighting and killing other people, let alone 20 of those arts. Don't you know that if you ponder the implications of a falling straw of grass while you beat someone to death it is perfectly ok? Zen and all that? Those martial arts guys even bow before they kick each other's kidneys to pulp. A Hey. Easy on the Martial arts thing. I took Tang Soo Do for 14 years. I learned as a matter of necessity, as girls were kicking the crap out of me in the 3rd grade. I have since gone on to receive my 2nd Dan (2nd Degree Blackbelt) and I am training my wife as well. It is a marvelous thing, being able to protect yourself. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The new york attack
Amber Rhea wrote: on 9/11/01 5:44 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I=B4m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the wor= ld trade center is a horrible incident. I=B4m with you in this horrible suffering. Same here in the Netherlands! Marten Will Ahearn, are you okay?? Everybody else on the list who lives in New York or DC?? My thoughts are with all of you. I have several friends in New York so this is really hitting home. William is fine. I just spoke with him. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Welcome to Foster Farms!
Alex Allee wrote: Found what was apparently an LCIII in a dumpster (sort of) today. I saw the guy throw it in, so I went after it. :P I opened it up to see what treasures were inside. Turns out it is an LCII with an LCIII lid. It's a very odd LCII though. First of all, it's got an FPU socket where the solder pads normally are. On each of the four ROM chips, there is a sticker that reads: Foster Farms ROM 1.0F2 01/29/92 HH 99C583 Apple Confidential ©Apple 1983-92 In the top left of the board where it normally says Macintosh LCII it says Foster Farms On the bottom of the case where the label should be, there is an orange sticker that says: This device has not been approved by the Federal Communications Commision. [sic] This is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased until the approval of the FCC has been obtained. Also, the fan looks nonstandard, but I could be wrong about that. I haven't tried booting it up yet. It's got an 80MB HD, but no floppy. What the hell is this thing? It's just a prototype. I have the Beirut Fix 200MP prototype 9500 here as well as the SOMA 604. It's amazing what you can find at a garage sale. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: this is funny. :)
Gregg Eshelman wrote: http://www.450productions.com/url/evilzug/workit/index.html And yes, it's clean. ;) I dunno about that. Those 8-bit bikini babes and their solicitous shaking might corrupt the youth on this list He he. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: kill teh frames kill the frames!!
the pickle wrote: At 20:03 -0500 on 28/08/01, JAG wrote: At 7:52 PM -0400 8/28/01, Vintage Macs wrote: Mosaic? Oh pu-leeze! Mosaic is so long dead it doesn't even do frames. (Unless for some reason NSCA has resumed development on it.) frames should be outlawed!!! For once, Jag and I agree. Frames suck. I can't think of a single instance where a table-based layout doesn't work just as well and is more broadly supported. Oh my God! I agree with JAG and the pickle at the same time too!!! This is truly a momentous event. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: kill teh frames kill the frames!!
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Frames?! You want frames?! HERE! That was funny. Nice link. He he. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Is there a Mac Rehab facility out there??
Tracy Keirns wrote: I am not an addict. I am not an addict. Well, maybe a little bit. My husband spent the weekend moving all of his tools and things in the basement out of the way for my truckload of Macs that I will be getting. I don't think there is enough room. Guess that 4 wheeler is going to have to go outside for a while! ;) Step one of the addiction. So, I guess my addiction is confirmed. Now the question is, do I spend my hard earned cash on rehab, or on that nifty new Mac thing I saw on eBay the other day?? eBay. Rehab is for quitters. Welcome to my world. I have a photo of almost 200 Mac's in my living room from the time I bought a pallet of Compact Macs. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
Alex Allee wrote: on 8/16/01 12:53 AM, Luc Verhelst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here's a picture I took with a camera. Didn't have a flatbed scanner handy. Its a bit hard to see since they tinted it blue but that is definately the same floppy slot as on the Beige G3 at work. :) http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~gregg/pcmac.jpg The button on the monitor is on the left too. I bet the foto was mirrored... My first thought when I saw the picture was Looks like a 7100 to me. The photo being mirrored would explain this. :) 4400's have the words PowerPC just to the left of the floppy slot as well as ventilation holes below the leading edge of the machine on the front. I doubt this pic is one of a 4400. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Famous PC parts has a 6100
Luc Verhelst wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: William Ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it were a 6100, you'd be able to clearly see the power button in that photo. Could have been erased. Plus, the 6100 is a pizza box styled case, with the CD-ROM in the center of the case. The one pictured is too tall for a 6100, and has a CD-ROM beneath the floppy. There is no CD in that picture. Check out the height of the box vs the monitor. Look at the floppy and the form factor bulge. I'm typing this on my 6100. The machine on the photo definitely isn't one. There is no power button. The 6100 doesn't have a line beneath the floppy port, and the top side of the piece of front panel with the floppy remains the same width, unlike the one on the photo. Performa 630 ? LC475 ? I am making the statement...It's a performa 636 or another Mac with the same form factor...like a 6200, in a mirrored photo. Note the curves near the feet, and the seam that runs along the top. 7100's don't have that. LC 475's are too thin. Definitely not a 6100 or a 4400. Has too be a 6200 or close to it. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
Cameron Kaiser wrote: Is the max RAM for a Performa 6214CD (such a well-known model, I know...) 64MB, orcan it take 128MB? Thought with the cost of 64MB 70-pin SIMMs, I suppose it would hardly be worth it... It is not worth it. Throw into street now, or give it to your worst enemy as a truce present. Horrid, horrid machines. We have several sitting in the bunker here (the old computer graveyard) and no one liked them when they were new, much less now. They do break down nicely, though, like in trash compactors and steam presses. Good stress relievers. As much as I hate to make a statement derogatory to the mac...I concur. Kill it. Destroy it. Throw it off of a building. I'll send you a 7100 (cheap) if you need another Mac. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Far-fetched idea
Sam Burrish wrote: In my never ending attempts to put good vintage Macs to use, I have devised another plan and would like some input. I finally got a new cabinet, to house a few of my servers which didn't have that luxury. I would like to test its efficiency and the temps of the Macs inside. I know I could go out and buy a few 99¢ thermometers, but that is too easy and defeating my purpose. Are there any heat sensitive probes and software that are for the Mac? I want to rig up something like they do in science classes in schools with the TI graphing calculators and the little probes that plug in to them. Then I can get an accurate digital reading and maybe print out a chart or graph or something. I'm just interested to know if anyone has seen/heard of something like this for the Mac before. Many thanks, Sam Most of that stuff is for PC's. Why not get a Thermo-couple and a meter. We do it all the time at the comcrete lab. We shop at fisher-sceintific. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Most stable OS
Gregg Eshelman wrote: I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. -671 is a connection proccesses error usually associated with an Open Transport crash. Kyle H. Hansen -- Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination
Gregg Eshelman wrote: That could also be 1994. :) DOH! 1984... Nine-Teen Eighty-Four. I was wondering what you were talking about. Yes. It could also be 1984, but it wasn't a Plus so you have to use a process of elimination to figure it out. I *know* your smart enough to know what year a mac came out Gregg. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination
the pickle wrote: Considering that the IIfx was made from 1990-1992 or thereabouts, finding a serial number starting with 4 is probably pretty unlikely, but then I would guess Kyle was just giving an example :) Bingo! We have a winner. That serial was just an example taken from a Performa 475 that I was using as a foot-stool/Ram checker. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: my stash of Macs
Amber Rhea wrote: Lisa Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous... I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna sell, but that trade -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: my stash of Macs
the pickle wrote: At 14:21 -0700 on 25/07/01, Kyle Hansen wrote: Amber Rhea wrote: Lisa Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous... I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna sell, but that trade Considering I haven't seen a Lisa 2 sell for under $500 any time recently, I'd say a stripped beige G3 is probably a decent trade. p It's the XL version of the LISA 2. I have 4 G3 MT's and I want a LISA. Hmm. I am wondering if the Lisa2 XL version is worth it. What do you think pickle? Others? -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How Many Types/Sizes of PRAM Batteries for Mac?
the pickle wrote: 1 is the Rayovac 840, used in 68040 Macs and some 603-based PPCs. This one is expensive as unless you get 'em from Mike Ford. What a lot of people do is find a three-cell AA holder and use the wiring harness from a dead Rayovac 840 to hook it up, giving them a $1.50 alkaline solution. Or you go to allelectronics.com and order them for $2 each. Kyle Hansen ---smart shopper -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
