Re: 7100cx pictures

[Robyn Lyons]

I have many IIci's some with the Aztek and some with the Delta, they 
are identical. The fan slides out, labels are even in the exact same 
spot with the same orientation.

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On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 12:27 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

> Did the Delta ones not have the slide out fan? My IIci
> has an Astek supply with the slide out fan.


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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Gregg Eshelman]

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> Nope.  Every PSU from the IIcx through to the 7100
> was the exact same part
> number.  Apple used at least two different vendors
> (Delta and Astec, IIRC) but
> the spec was the same.

Did the Delta ones not have the slide out fan? My IIci
has an Astek supply with the slide out fan.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Shroom]

On Monday, January 20, 2003, 18:56, you wrote:

>> > number.  Apple used at least two different vendors (Delta and Astec, IIRC)

>> At least three, I have a IIci with a GE PSU.

CK> I have a couple of these too. In fact, just anecdotally, I find the GE ones
CK> more reliable than the Astec ones.

I have a IIcx here with a GE PSU.



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Re: 7100cx pictures

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> > number.  Apple used at least two different vendors (Delta and Astec, IIRC)

> At least three, I have a IIci with a GE PSU.

I have a couple of these too. In fact, just anecdotally, I find the GE ones
more reliable than the Astec ones.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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>Nope.  Every PSU from the IIcx through to the 7100 was the exact same part
>number.  Apple used at least two different vendors (Delta and Astec, IIRC) but
>the spec was the same.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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> Ah I see. I thought you were just talking about the clips on the inside
> of the case to secure the motherboard - not the port openings on the
> back panel itself. That's very cool, and it looks pretty good. Thanks
> for taking the time to share this with all of us!

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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At 08:25 + on 20/01/03, Mark Benson wrote:

>On Monday, Jan 20, 2003, at 06:10 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
>
>> At 22:10 -0800 on 19/01/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
>>
>>> Is that the IIci or the 7100 power supply?
>>
>> Doesn't matter; they're exactly the same.
>
>I thought the IIcx one was a lower wattage.

Nope.  Every PSU from the IIcx through to the 7100 was the exact same part
number.  Apple used at least two different vendors (Delta and Astec, IIRC) but
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Re: 7100cx pictures

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On Monday, Jan 20, 2003, at 06:10 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

> At 22:10 -0800 on 19/01/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
>
>> Is that the IIci or the 7100 power supply?
>
> Doesn't matter; they're exactly the same.

I thought the IIcx one was a lower wattage.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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On Monday, Jan 20, 2003, at 06:10 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

> Is that the IIci or the 7100 power supply?

7100, I figured it needed a boost. You should be able to tell that, 
it's not got a removable fan like the IIcx/IIci PSU :).

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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On Monday, Jan 20, 2003, at 06:08 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

> Can you get the port icons on the back as some sort of
> image file or in a symbol font? If so, do up a file
> with them in proper positions to print out a new
> port cover panel on the heaviest cardstock your
> printer can handle. Make the background a nice shade
> of beige too. :) Cut the holes out then glue to the
> back of the case.

Yes, but then the port icons are not far off the right place anyway. 
And I can't really be bothered seeing as the plugs are very hard to 
plug the wrong thing into anyway!

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Re: 7100cx pictures

[the pickle]

At 22:10 -0800 on 19/01/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>Is that the IIci or the 7100 power supply?

Doesn't matter; they're exactly the same.
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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Gregg Eshelman]

Is that the IIci or the 7100 power supply?

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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Gregg Eshelman]

Can you get the port icons on the back as some sort of
image file or in a symbol font? If so, do up a file
with them in proper positions to print out a new
port cover panel on the heaviest cardstock your
printer can handle. Make the background a nice shade
of beige too. :) Cut the holes out then glue to the
back of the case.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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On Sunday, Jan 19, 2003, at 21:16 Europe/London, Dustin Rinebold wrote:

> Ah I see. I thought you were just talking about the clips on the inside
> of the case to secure the motherboard - not the port openings on the
> back panel itself. That's very cool, and it looks pretty good. Thanks
> for taking the time to share this with all of us!

Yeh it's hard work doing it all by hand but the results are much better 
IMHO. Plus you gain more satisfaction if it takes 2 hours of hard graft 
than a 2 minute spell with a Dremel tool.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Dustin Rinebold]

Ah I see. I thought you were just talking about the clips on the inside 
of the case to secure the motherboard - not the port openings on the 
back panel itself. That's very cool, and it looks pretty good. Thanks 
for taking the time to share this with all of us!

dustin

> Read the last sentence again :)
>
> I used a hacksaw blade and a set of heavy duty metal files. When i did
> the Quadra 805 my dad used a jigsaw to cut the hole and we had terrible
> trouble with the ABS plastic melting and self-sealing. It also made, a
> really terrible job of it and left rough edges all over the place. I
> decided power tools were not the way forward this time. So I got a
> battery powered drill, a hacksaw blade and the files and cut it out by
> hand. for the video/AV socket I drilled two holes approximately in the
> right places and cut between them with the saw blade and opened it out
> with a great deal of cutting and filing. It was a bit too wide, which
> annoyed me  a bit, but once I tidied it up a bit it didn't look that
> bad, and it is more or less hidden behind the enormous video connector
> now anyway. With the other two slots I just started in hole where a
> port was on the IIcx and cut my way sideways. I then just opened them
> out with a few files and leveled them off. On the inside I had to cut
> the tops off most of the peers that held the IIcx lobo down, the only
> two that fit are on the NuBus side between the NuBus and PDS slots. I
> was shocked at how well it all did fit in the case. Shows how much of a
> bunch of cheap-skates Apple are/were ;). I cleaned the flash off on the
> inside from my vigorous filing with a sharp knife and vacuumed out the
> box before I put anything back in it. That's about it.


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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Mark Benson]

On Sunday, Jan 19, 2003, at 19:34 Europe/London, Dustin Rinebold wrote:

>> The entire board fits perfectly. The speaker carrier/board retainer
>> (wedge) fits fine, the reset buttons fit fine, the NuBus slots align
>> perfectly. Only the mounting posts (the fins that stick up through the
>> board), the retaining slots at the back and the back panel itself do
>> not line up right, but that was soon solved with a hacksaw and a set 
>> of
>> metal files.
>
> It looks good, Mark! I didn't realize that the power supply and
> motherboard fit so well into the IIcx/IIci form factor. What kind of
> tool did you use to cut into the plastic on the back panel? I'm eyeing
> my spare Quadra 700 right now  =)

Read the last sentence again :)

I used a hacksaw blade and a set of heavy duty metal files. When i did 
the Quadra 805 my dad used a jigsaw to cut the hole and we had terrible 
trouble with the ABS plastic melting and self-sealing. It also made, a 
really terrible job of it and left rough edges all over the place. I 
decided power tools were not the way forward this time. So I got a 
battery powered drill, a hacksaw blade and the files and cut it out by 
hand. for the video/AV socket I drilled two holes approximately in the 
right places and cut between them with the saw blade and opened it out 
with a great deal of cutting and filing. It was a bit too wide, which 
annoyed me  a bit, but once I tidied it up a bit it didn't look that 
bad, and it is more or less hidden behind the enormous video connector 
now anyway. With the other two slots I just started in hole where a 
port was on the IIcx and cut my way sideways. I then just opened them 
out with a few files and leveled them off. On the inside I had to cut 
the tops off most of the peers that held the IIcx lobo down, the only 
two that fit are on the NuBus side between the NuBus and PDS slots. I 
was shocked at how well it all did fit in the case. Shows how much of a 
bunch of cheap-skates Apple are/were ;). I cleaned the flash off on the 
inside from my vigorous filing with a sharp knife and vacuumed out the 
box before I put anything back in it. That's about it.

Oh and for those who haven't looked at it yet the pics are now all on 
one page at:


The pics are all on a hastily cobbled together page.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

[Dustin Rinebold]

> The entire board fits perfectly. The speaker carrier/board retainer
> (wedge) fits fine, the reset buttons fit fine, the NuBus slots align
> perfectly. Only the mounting posts (the fins that stick up through the
> board), the retaining slots at the back and the back panel itself do
> not line up right, but that was soon solved with a hacksaw and a set of
> metal files.

It looks good, Mark! I didn't realize that the power supply and 
motherboard fit so well into the IIcx/IIci form factor. What kind of 
tool did you use to cut into the plastic on the back panel? I'm eyeing 
my spare Quadra 700 right now  =)

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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On Sunday, Jan 19, 2003, at 11:18 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

> Is there a hole in the 7100 board for the IIci drive
> bracket hold down screw? Neat how the reset and
> interrupt switches align perfectly. :)

Yes there is. The equivalent hole is is where one of the chassis mounts 
for the drive chassis bolts down in the 7100 IIRC.

The entire board fits perfectly. The speaker carrier/board retainer 
(wedge) fits fine, the reset buttons fit fine, the NuBus slots align 
perfectly. Only the mounting posts (the fins that stick up through the 
board), the retaining slots at the back and the back panel itself do 
not line up right, but that was soon solved with a hacksaw and a set of 
metal files.

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Re: 7100cx pictures

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--- Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know - I'm crazy but I hate the 7100 case - it
> eats my knuckles, so I 
> put the 7100 board in an old IIcx. Sorry if the
> double post overlaps 
> with anyone.
> 
> 
> -looking into the heart - the heatsink was off as I
> took up Jeff 
> Walther's suggestion of using new heatsink grease.
> Proves it's a 601 though at least :)

Is there a hole in the 7100 board for the IIci drive
bracket hold down screw? Neat how the reset and
interrupt switches align perfectly. :)

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