Re: Gauge PRO...

[Mark Benson]

On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 03:23 Europe/London, ELN/rlf9 wrote:

> Download Metronome. I can send it to you if you can't find it.

Alright can we call a close on this one please? It's off topic and, 
despite the efforts of list members it doesn't look like getting back 
that way.

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[ELN/rlf9]

>From: Gail Vass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Gauge PRO...
>
> re: Gauge Pro 1.1  I downloaded it and ran the program...the CPU Temp 
>reading is : Unavailable.
>
>Well shoot ! That's the only indicator I needed. 

Download Metronome. I can send it to you if you can't find it.

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Robyn Lyons]

Guess that is what happens when you are stuck in a sealed jar filled 
with vinegar :)

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On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 01:10  PM, Jim Lunceford wrote:

> Don't be too hard on the pickle Gail.
>
> It's become an expected tradition.
>
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Robyn Lyons]

I should apologize as well, I just saw the words '6500'. Me thinks it 
is time I cut myself off of a few lists ;)

-Robyn

On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 12:50  PM, Gail Vass wrote:

> "Since when is a 6500 on-topic for this list anyway?"
>
> oops, sorry...I have an LC and a 6500I posted to wrong list.
>
> Thanks Ben and Robyn anyway.
>
> Well pickle since when has *vulgar* language been allowed?
>
> Gail


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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Ryan Sutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >At 18:33 -0800 on 07/12/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
> >
> >>Words with s h i t anywhere in them are another
> >>bobble for filters. Just try and tell someone who
> is
> >>language filtering their mail where to get the
> best
> >>shitake mushrooms... They'll never get your note
> >
> >And heaven forbid anyone would try to talk about
> Matshita or Matsushita
> >CD-ROMs, like the ones Apple used as their 4x
> mechanisms...
> 
> This is a spectacular verbal move to get back on
> topic.  To so effortlessly transition from vulgarity
> to CDROM drives...  kudos to you sir...

Just call them Panasonic drives. :) That's the name
Matshita/Matsushita uses in the USA and many other
countries.

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[the pickle]

At 05:50 -0800 on 08/12/02, Ryan Sutter wrote:

>--- the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>At 18:33 -0800 on 07/12/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
>>
>>>Words with s h i t anywhere in them are another
>>>bobble for filters. Just try and tell someone who is
>>>language filtering their mail where to get the best
>>>shitake mushrooms... They'll never get your note
>>
>>And heaven forbid anyone would try to talk about Matshita or Matsushita
>>CD-ROMs, like the ones Apple used as their 4x mechanisms...
>
>This is a spectacular verbal move to get back on topic.  To so effortlessly
>transition from vulgarity to CDROM drives...  kudos to you sir...

/me bows to much applause.

Yeah, I thought you folks would appreciate that ;)
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Ryan Sutter]

--- the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 18:33 -0800 on 07/12/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
>
>>Words with s h i t anywhere in them are another
>>bobble for filters. Just try and tell someone who is
>>language filtering their mail where to get the best
>>shitake mushrooms... They'll never get your note
>
>And heaven forbid anyone would try to talk about Matshita or Matsushita
>CD-ROMs, like the ones Apple used as their 4x mechanisms...

This is a spectacular verbal move to get back on topic.  To so effortlessly transition 
from vulgarity to CDROM drives...  kudos to you sir...

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Mark Benson]

On Sunday, Dec 8, 2002, at 02:36 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

> And heaven forbid anyone would try to talk about Matshita or Matsushita
> CD-ROMs, like the ones Apple used as their 4x mechanisms...

Not forgetting most of Apple's laptop CD drives which are also 
Matshita/Matsushita, as well as, by default the tray loading iMac 
drives, and some of the drives in their desktop machines.

This could have major repercussions for many lists ;)

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Ben Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Taking the thread on-topic though, do the 680x0 CPUs
> contain 
> thermocouples? Mind you, I've never seen an '030
> with a heatsink. Why 
> can't they make chips like this anymore.

Nope, none of the 68k chips nor their contemporary
x86 family have thermocouples. No 68k or x86 chip
really needed a heatsink until the 040 and 486
generation. (Though the LCC packaged 286 used a
heatsink and clip to hold it onto the "socket".)

The only modern/current high-ish performance CPU
that's even capable of running without a heatsink
and not instantly frying itself is the VIA C3. :)
But that's as OT for this list as a Gx Mac...

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[the pickle]

At 18:33 -0800 on 07/12/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>Words with s h i t anywhere in them are another
>bobble for filters. Just try and tell someone who is
>language filtering their mail where to get the best
>shitake mushrooms... They'll never get your note

And heaven forbid anyone would try to talk about Matshita or Matsushita
CD-ROMs, like the ones Apple used as their 4x mechanisms...
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- aedan mcghie/scotland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, Dec 7, 2002, at 23:00 Europe/London,
> the pickle wrote:
> 
> > At 17:58 -0500 on 07/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:
> >
> >> Oh, I got my stuff, but he screwed me on shipping
> costs and was a 
> >> real *dick*
> >
> > Explain the vulgarity in the above.
> 
> Well "Dick Van Dyke" can cause all kinds of problems
> with language 
> filters... or perhaps the programmers just had to
> watch too many 
> episodes of "Diagnosis Murder".

Some language filters will "trip" on any word that
begins with the letters f a g, so they complain if
you're talking about songs by Donald Fagen or are
discussing Oliver Twist because of the character
Fagin.
Words with s h i t anywhere in them are another
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language filtering their mail where to get the best
shitake mushrooms... They'll never get your note
about when you'll arrive in the town of Middlesex
either.

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[the pickle]

At 13:19 +1100 on 08/12/02, Ben Wells wrote:

>Taking the thread on-topic though, do the 680x0 CPUs contain
>thermocouples? Mind you, I've never seen an '030 with a heatsink. Why
>can't they make chips like this anymore.

The G3 was the first mainstream Mot CPU to use an internal thermocouple, or at
least to use the first to use one that was user-accessible.
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Ben Wells]

>> "Since when is a 6500 on-topic for this list anyway?"
>> oops, sorry...I have an LC and a 6500I posted to wrong list.
> There ya go, she appologised. I wish everyone who posted OT did that 
> ;).
>

I should apologies too... I finally got email working on my Apple 
Newton 2100MP and was so enthralled in sending off an email I didn't 
even notice which list the message was from! (I subscribe 9 lists, 
without heaps of filters it gets really confusing).

Taking the thread on-topic though, do the 680x0 CPUs contain 
thermocouples? Mind you, I've never seen an '030 with a heatsink. Why 
can't they make chips like this anymore.

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Mark Benson]

On Saturday, Dec 7, 2002, at 23:29 Europe/London, aedan mcghie/scotland 
wrote:

>
> On Saturday, Dec 7, 2002, at 23:00 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
>
>> At 17:58 -0500 on 07/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, I got my stuff, but he screwed me on shipping costs and was a
>>> real *dick*
>>
>> Explain the vulgarity in the above.
>
> Well "Dick Van Dyke" can cause all kinds of problems with language
> filters... or perhaps the programmers just had to watch too many
> episodes of "Diagnosis Murder".

*Laughs*

For the love of all, don't try putting that through a 'slang' 
translator :)

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Re: Gauge PRO...

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On Saturday, Dec 7, 2002, at 23:00 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

> At 17:58 -0500 on 07/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:
>
>> Oh, I got my stuff, but he screwed me on shipping costs and was a 
>> real *dick*
>
> Explain the vulgarity in the above.

Some people do still find comparing to someone to a penis offensive. 
Try and keep your tone a bit more civil.

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Re: Gauge PRO...

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On Saturday, Dec 7, 2002, at 18:50 Europe/London, Gail Vass wrote:

> pickle wrote:
>
> "Since when is a 6500 on-topic for this list anyway?"
>
> oops, sorry...I have an LC and a 6500I posted to wrong list.

There ya go, she appologised. I wish everyone who posted OT did that ;).

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[aedan mcghie/scotland]

On Saturday, Dec 7, 2002, at 23:00 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

> At 17:58 -0500 on 07/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:
>
>> Oh, I got my stuff, but he screwed me on shipping costs and was a 
>> real *dick*
>
> Explain the vulgarity in the above.

Well "Dick Van Dyke" can cause all kinds of problems with language 
filters... or perhaps the programmers just had to watch too many 
episodes of "Diagnosis Murder".

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[the pickle]

At 17:58 -0500 on 07/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:

>Oh, I got my stuff, but he screwed me on shipping costs and was a real *dick*

Explain the vulgarity in the above.
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Gail Vass]

Gail replied:
>Well pickle since when has *vulgar* language been allowed?

pickle replied: 
 Example?

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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:15:26 -0500
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Jim Lunceford]

Don't be too hard on the pickle Gail.

It's become an expected tradition.

Jim

---

Gail Vass wrote:

> pickle wrote:
>
> "Since when is a 6500 on-topic for this list anyway?"
>
> oops, sorry...I have an LC and a 6500I posted to wrong list.
>
> Thanks Ben and Robyn anyway.
>
> Well pickle since when has *vulgar* language been allowed?
>
> Gail




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Re: Gauge PRO...

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At 13:50 -0500 on 07/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:

>oops, sorry...I have an LC and a 6500I posted to wrong list.

Be more careful next time.

>Well pickle since when has *vulgar* language been allowed?

Example?

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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Gail Vass]

pickle wrote:

"Since when is a 6500 on-topic for this list anyway?"

oops, sorry...I have an LC and a 6500I posted to wrong list.

Thanks Ben and Robyn anyway.

Well pickle since when has *vulgar* language been allowed?

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Re: Gauge PRO...

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At 23:52 -0600 on 06/12/02, Robyn Lyons wrote:

>Some 603ev chips do have the thermocouple on them. Most notably the
>ones used in the PowerBooks. I know that my 5300 and 5300cs do. And

Neither of which is remotely on-topic for this list, and neither of which used
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Robyn Lyons]

Some 603ev chips do have the thermocouple on them. Most notably the 
ones used in the PowerBooks. I know that my 5300 and 5300cs do. And 
although I'm not 100% I fairly well recall my PM6500/250 being able to 
do temp. Neither was with Gauge PRO though. I've long since forgotten 
what apps I did use. Sorry.

-Robyn

On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 09:54  PM, Ben Wells wrote:

> The PPC 604 CPU doesn't contain an onboard thermocouple, and I'd 
> therefore
> assume neither does the 603. Gauge Pro obviously needs to interface 
> with
> it to get a reading. G3s and G4s display temperature fine.
>
> I had problems with a 200MP daughter card that'd run super-hot... Gauge
> Pro was obviously useless so I just hooked up a K-type thermocouple to 
> my
> DMM and used that to track what's happening. I plan on hard installing 
> a
> couple of thermocouples when my 9600 gains a trio of SCSI-LVD drives, 
> so I
> can carefully monitor those aswell.


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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Ben Wells]

>so I wanted to just check out the tower and 
>make sure my PM 6500/250 
>isn't heating up inside but running that >
>application gives me a temp
>reading of : "Unavailable"

>Any suggestions, advice?

The PPC 604 CPU doesn't contain an onboard thermocouple, and I'd therefore
assume neither does the 603. Gauge Pro obviously needs to interface with
it to get a reading. G3s and G4s display temperature fine.

I had problems with a 200MP daughter card that'd run super-hot... Gauge
Pro was obviously useless so I just hooked up a K-type thermocouple to my
DMM and used that to track what's happening. I plan on hard installing a
couple of thermocouples when my 9600 gains a trio of SCSI-LVD drives, so I
can carefully monitor those aswell.

Ben.
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[the pickle]

At 16:07 -0500 on 06/12/02, Gail Vass wrote:

> re: Gauge Pro 1.1  I downloaded it and ran the program...the CPU Temp
>reading is : Unavailable.

That only works on G3s and early-rev G4 processors.

Since when is a 6500 on-topic for this list anyway?
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Re: Gauge PRO...

[Gail Vass]

 re: Gauge Pro 1.1  I downloaded it and ran the program...the CPU Temp 
reading is : Unavailable.

Well shoot ! That's the only indicator I needed. 

I think my power supply is on the blink.alot of intermittent buzzing...
so I wanted to just check out the tower and make sure my PM 6500/250 
isn't heating up inside but running that application gives me a temp
 reading of : "Unavailable"

Any suggestions, advice?

Thanks,
Gail

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