Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread RomRider

just a brief defence of 486 machines, I am a mac fan but I also have several
486 machines that are quite useful... The only thing you need in an old 486
to make it useful is lots of ram, if you can squeeze 32 megs or more in you
can run a nice distro of linux...

I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has
open transport built right in.

- Original Message - >
> I always tell people, as long as your MAC does exactly what you need it to
> do,then it's still a very useful machine...unlike most 286's, 386's,
> 486's, IBM PC jr's etc
>




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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Robert Poland

>I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
>system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has
>open transport built right in.

I see the 7.5.5 update mentioned on http://lowendmac.com/macos.shtml.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea

> Lisa

Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous...

> my girlfriend thinks I've gone off the DEEP END...

:) We moved to a two-bedroom apartment to accomodate all our computers
(okay, so most of them are MY computers!) But now I'm starting to think we
need THREE bedrooms!

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen



Amber Rhea wrote:

> > Lisa
>
> Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous...

I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna
sell, but that trade

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle

At 14:21 -0700 on 25/07/01, Kyle Hansen wrote:

>Amber Rhea wrote:
>
>> > Lisa
>>
>> Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous...
>
>I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
>wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna
>sell, but that trade

Considering I haven't seen a Lisa 2 sell for under $500 any time recently,
I'd say a stripped beige G3 is probably a decent trade.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Gene Osburn

> From: "RomRider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: my stash of Macs
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:25:59 -0600
> 
> I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
> system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has
> open transport built right in.

You would *REALLY* love it with System 7.1 -- much quicker and easier on
RAM demands.  You would, however, need to add other bits and pieces for
additional 7.5/7.6 functionality...see the pickle's FAQ for details.

BTW, do you still want that set of System 7.5.3 disks (with 7.5.5 update)...?

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle

At 15:04 -0700 on 25/07/01, Gene Osburn wrote:

>> From: "RomRider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: my stash of Macs
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:25:59 -0600
>>
>> I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
>> system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has
>> open transport built right in.
>
>You would *REALLY* love it with System 7.1 -- much quicker and easier on
>RAM demands.  You would, however, need to add other bits and pieces for

Yeah, man, I can't believe I didn't notice that the first time.  Sheesh,
running 7.5.5 on an LC is sheer horror.  You would love it a LOT more with
7.1 or even 6.0.8.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen



the pickle wrote:

> At 14:21 -0700 on 25/07/01, Kyle Hansen wrote:
>
> >Amber Rhea wrote:
> >
> >> > Lisa
> >>
> >> Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous...
> >
> >I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
> >wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna
> >sell, but that trade
>
> Considering I haven't seen a Lisa 2 sell for under $500 any time recently,
> I'd say a stripped beige G3 is probably a decent trade.
>
> p

It's the XL version of the LISA 2.  I have 4 G3 MT's and I want a LISA.  Hmm.
I am wondering if the Lisa2 XL version is worth it.  What do you think pickle?
Others?

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread RomRider

> > I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
> > system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it
has
> > open transport built right in.
>
> You would *REALLY* love it with System 7.1 -- much quicker and easier on
> RAM demands.  You would, however, need to add other bits and pieces for
> additional 7.5/7.6 functionality...see the pickle's FAQ for details.
>
> BTW, do you still want that set of System 7.5.3 disks (with 7.5.5
update)...?

Absolutely i'd love to have the 7.5.5 update on floppy disks know where I
can get em?



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Re: my stash of macs

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea


> I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
> wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna
> sell, but that trade
> 
> -- Kyle H. Hansen

What are you talking about? Hell yeah that's a good trade! Maybe not for the
guy losing the Lisa, but... :) Don't pass this one up! Even if it is an XL -
I'd *love* to have even an XL! Go for it, and then I can live vicariously.
:)

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill

128k
512k
512ke
Plus (11)
SE (6)
Mac II
Mac IIx
Mac SEx
Mac IIfx
Mac IIcx (possible dead logic board)
Mac IIci (3)
Mac IIsi (5)
Mac IIvx (2)
Mac Classic (13)
LC
LCII (3)
LCIII
LC475
Quadra 605
Performa 636
Performa 636CD
PowerMac 6100 (3 in parts)
Performa 6116 (in parts)
PowerMac 7100/220
PowerMac 9500
Beige G3/233 220/34
Blue G3/450 768/18 U2W

Thats about half of them.  My landlord/mother has tried to evict...
Yes some are for sale.

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Aqua

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Nick Canterucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Vintage Macs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: my stash of Macs


>Always interesting to see other forum members
>collection of Macs..Here's mine
>
>Lisa



 This one's bound to elude me forever.

Otherwise, you've got a well-rounded pack 'O Macs.
And none of US think you've gone off the deep end ;^)

Jeff


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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Kyle Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Vintage Macs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: my stash of Macs



>I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
>wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I have 4 G3 MT's that I am
gonna
>sell, but that trade
>
>-- Kyle H. Hansen


In MY case, Kyle, without batting an eye.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Galen Tatsuo Komatsu

 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:25:57 -1000
 From: Nick Canterucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Always interesting to see other forum members
> collection of Macs..Here's mine  [list deleted]

LC
Performa 467
Quadra 630
Power Book 180c
Color Classic  dead =^(
Power Mac 5400
Bandai Pippin

The first three are actually up for sale, and after several
months, I think I got my dream call earlier this evening.  The
caller was definitely interested in one I had advertised, and when
she found out I was advertising more than one,  said "I'll take two!"
...the dining room table may actually see daylight once again, at
least until I pick up a IIci to play with. =^)


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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Tracy Keirns

on 7/27/01 10:51 AM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Always interesting to see other forum members
>> collection of Macs..Here's mine

Well, I guess it's my turn to list my Macs.

Apple //c
Apple //e
Apple //gs

Mac SE (8)
Mac SE FD/HD dual disk no hard drive
Mac Classic (3)
Mac Classic II (2)

Mac LC
Mac LC II
Mac LC III
Mac LC 475

Mac IIvx

Performa 6360

PowerBook 5300

iMac (now used by my mother)

PowerMac G4 400mhz

in addition to those, I also have Macs in my classroom:
4 5500's and an iMac that belong to the school

Not a bad collection for someone that started with the Mac about 4 years
ago! ;)

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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Steve Conrad

Since some folks listed their Apples as well here are mine

Apple ][e (2 + 1 thats missing a few key caps)
Apple //c

Steve Conrad
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SDF-1 crew became a tighter family after the fortress had been exiled than
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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Matthew Styles

Hello,

My turn :)

Mac 512k
Mac Plus x 4
Mac SE dual floppy with hard drive
Mac SE single floppy with hard drive
Mac SE/30 x 2 *
Mac Classic x 6 *
Mac Classic 2 x 4
Mac Colour Classic
Mac II x 4
Mac IIci
Mac IIcx
Mac IIsi
Mac LC
Mac LCII x 4 *
Mac LC475
Mac LC575 x 4 *
Mac Centris 650
Power Mac 6100/60 x 2 *
Power Mac 6100/66 x 4 *
Power Mac 7100/80AV *
Power Mac 6360/160 *
Power Mac 7200/120

OT:

Apple IIe x 3 *

* denotes one or more are for sale at
http://www.geocities.com/appleequipment

:)
Matt.


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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Steve Conrad

Mac SE dual floppy With HD?
OK, never seen one. I have an SE (single floppy w/HD) and an SE FDHD (dual
floppy). I assume its an external HD?

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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Matthew Styles


> Mac SE dual floppy With HD?
> OK, never seen one. I have an SE (single floppy w/HD) and an SE FDHD (dual
> floppy). I assume its an external HD?

No, dual internal floppy and internal HD. It had a bright purple bracket in
it that looked as if it was home made, but I found another more
professionally made bracket and now it looks just like something Apple would
have shipped.

Matt.


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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Steve Conrad

> Mac SE dual floppy With HD?
> OK, never seen one. I have an SE (single floppy w/HD) and an SE FDHD (dual
> floppy). I assume its an external HD?

No, dual internal floppy and internal HD. It had a bright purple bracket in
it that looked as if it was home made, but I found another more
professionally made bracket and now it looks just like something Apple would
have shipped.


Ahhh, a home made job!
Must make for some fun computing time :)

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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Cameron Kaiser

Just a small collection, myself.

Plus (it just plays Zero Gravity!)
SE/30
two IIcis, one "stock" with standard L2 cache, one w/50MHz Daystar '030 + FPU
IIsi, one almost in 100% condition + FPU, one totally stripped
Power Mac 7300 w/G3 500/1MB/225 (soon)
Apple Network Server 500/200 

and a token Apple IIgs that netboots from the SE/30.

Actually, I'm a much bigger Commodore nut than Apple nut. A C128DCR sits
next to the 7300, and that's just for openers.

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Re: My Stash of Macs

2001-07-27 Thread Gregg Eshelman

My list is incredibly short and easy.

One IIci with DayStar Turbo 601 and 80 megs RAM.

One Radius 81/110 with a paltry 56 megs RAM.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-28 Thread Alex Allee

on 7/25/01 12:25 PM, RomRider at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
> system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has
> open transport built right in.

Whoa there. 7.5.3 on that poor 16MHz '020? I've got a LC with 10MB and an
ethernet card also. Do yourself a favor and go with 6.0.8. If you need the
capabilities of 7, go with 7.1, tops. Your LC will thank you.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-28 Thread Alex Allee

Oh no, not another one of these! No wonder I'm wading through 300+ messages
on this list. :)

SE
SE/30
Classic
LC
LCIII
Performa 475
Performa 637CD
Centris 610
Power Mac 6100
Power Mac 7500
Powerbook 190cs
(Probably forgot one or two, but you get the idea...)

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-28 Thread Alex Allee

on 7/25/01 3:45 PM, Kyle Hansen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It's the XL version of the LISA 2.  I have 4 G3 MT's and I want a LISA.
> Hmm.
> I am wondering if the Lisa2 XL version is worth it.  What do you think pickle?
> Others?

If I had that many G3's laying around, I'd do it. Without thinking twice.
Not even taking into account the value of any of the Lisa family. Just
because it would be a cool thing to have.

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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-28 Thread RomRider



> on 7/25/01 12:25 PM, RomRider at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
> > system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it
has
> > open transport built right in.
>
> Whoa there. 7.5.3 on that poor 16MHz '020? I've got a LC with 10MB and an
> ethernet card also. Do yourself a favor and go with 6.0.8. If you need the
> capabilities of 7, go with 7.1, tops. Your LC will thank you.
>
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OK all is fair with running 6.0.8 however one serious problem with that.. I
can't or just don't understand how to get a connection to a cablemodem using
DHCP...

Is there a better way than mactcp?  seems to only support IP numbers you
enter manually...



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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-28 Thread Marten van de Kraats

I vaguely remember this has already been discussed this week and some 
wise person advised you to install 7.1 and open tranport.

Marten

>  > on 7/25/01 12:25 PM, RomRider at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>  > I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... &
>>  > system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it
>has
>>  > open transport built right in.
>>
>>  Whoa there. 7.5.3 on that poor 16MHz '020? I've got a LC with 10MB and an
>>  ethernet card also. Do yourself a favor and go with 6.0.8. If you need the
>>  capabilities of 7, go with 7.1, tops. Your LC will thank you.
>>
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>can't or just don't understand how to get a connection to a cablemodem using
>DHCP...
>
>Is there a better way than mactcp?  seems to only support IP numbers you
>enter manually...
>

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7.7.5 update. Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman


--- RomRider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> just a brief defence of 486 machines, I am a mac fan
> but I also have several
> 486 machines that are quite useful... The only thing
> you need in an old 486
> to make it useful is lots of ram, if you can squeeze
> 32 megs or more in you
> can run a nice distro of linux...
> 
> I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an
> ethernet card... &
> system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to
> 7.5.5 as I hear it has
> open transport built right in.

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/System_7.5.5_Update/

If you aren't English-North_American, just back up a
few directory levels and drill down again. After
installing 7.5.5 you should install OT 1.1.1 followed
immediately (after reboot) OT 1.1.2, both of which are
also on ftp.apple.com somewhere. :)

P.S. See the FAQ URL which is somewhere in the footer
of every message you get on this list. :)

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Vicarious Lisas. Re: my stash of macs

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Amber Rhea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige
> tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
> > wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I
> have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna
> > sell, but that trade
> > 
> > -- Kyle H. Hansen
> 
> What are you talking about? Hell yeah that's a good
> trade! Maybe not for the
> guy losing the Lisa, but... :) Don't pass this one
> up! Even if it is an XL -
> I'd *love* to have even an XL! Go for it, and then I
> can live vicariously.
> :)

Lisa emulation is progressing slowly. At least MESS
has a Lisa component that throws something onscreen.

http://mess.emuverse.com/
http://www.pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/lisa.html
http://lisa.sunder.net/
http://www.cs.swarthmore.edu/~tom/cs23/final/


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Re: Vicarious Lisas. Re: my stash of macs

2001-07-26 Thread Amber Rhea

on 7/26/01 2:29 AM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://www.cs.swarthmore.edu/~tom/cs23/final/

:) This is my friend's web page about his project. Coming along nicely, but
it's been placed on hold while he spends a semester in Italy. He, too, has a
Lisa 1 and a Lisa 2. Maybe one day I'll convince him to sell me one of them!

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