Quickdraw Color/IWII; Was: Re: ScuzzyGraph Anyone?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:30:20 -0400 From: Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 07:51:20PM -0500, Derek R. Morton wrote: A mint condition ScuzzyGraph! Amazingly rare... which the BuyItNow prices attests to. Not my personal cup of tea as I am more into the Quadra series, but still! I believe (my memory does get foggy as the years pass) the graphics are somewhat primitive in that there is only one bit per color (8 total colors including black, white, primary and secondary), but you do get color out of your Plus. On a slight tangent: while the 8 colours may also be a limitation of the adapter, it is also a limitation of QuickDraw. I seem to recall reading that the non-Colour QuickDraw could support 8 colours, a feature which was supposed to be used for colour printers. Correct. This becomes apparent if one connects an IWII (Imagewriter II) to a Mac Plus and installs the four color ribbon. In general, you can't print color. But use an application like Excel in which one can assign colors to cells and then print to the IWII and voila, color. I think. It's been years since I tried this experiment, so I may be off a bit. IIRC, the Apple driver (extension) for the IWII only supports regular Quickdraw so it's limited to 8 colors as well, even if you connect it to a more capable computer. If you want real color printing from the IWII then you need Microspot's MacPalette II software. This is an extension (print driver) for the IWII which will use the four color ribbon to print up to 24 bit color graphics, all done with various dithering algorithms to mix the color dots on the page. The images printed that way are not great (what is it? 144 dpi or 72 dpi?) but they are amazingly good compared to what I expected from a dot matrix printer doing color. MacPalette II comes in a serial version and an Appletalk version. I've used it with all the OS 7's through OS 9.1 and it works great. My only complaint is that it prints everything in tall adjusted, so if you use it to print text it looks like crap.Perhaps, I'm missing some detail about printing text which I have forgotten over the years. I don't remember having this problem when I first got it, but I may not have tried text then. Anyway, the regular IWII driver works fine for text, but it would be nice to use the MacPalette II driver for text documents as well, as MP II includes a print spooler, so that printing to the IWII doesn't tie up one's computer during the printing. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ScuzzyGraph Anyone?
on 4/19/04 5:51 PM, Derek R. Morton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my nightly search of eBay I came across this beauty: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4125514187rd=1 A mint condition ScuzzyGraph! Amazingly rare... which the BuyItNow prices attests to. Not my personal cup of tea as I am more into the Quadra series, but still! I believe (my memory does get foggy as the years pass) the graphics are somewhat primitive in that there is only one bit per color (8 total colors including black, white, primary and secondary), but you do get color out of your Plus. Derek Sweet. Looks perfect. That's quite a find for some collector. Jeff G -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ScuzzyGraph Anyone?
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 07:51:20PM -0500, Derek R. Morton wrote: A mint condition ScuzzyGraph! Amazingly rare... which the BuyItNow prices attests to. Not my personal cup of tea as I am more into the Quadra series, but still! I believe (my memory does get foggy as the years pass) the graphics are somewhat primitive in that there is only one bit per color (8 total colors including black, white, primary and secondary), but you do get color out of your Plus. On a slight tangent: while the 8 colours may also be a limitation of the adapter, it is also a limitation of QuickDraw. I seem to recall reading that the non-Colour QuickDraw could support 8 colours, a feature which was supposed to be used for colour printers. Byron. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ScuzzyGraph Anyone?
At 11:30 PM -0400 4/19/04, Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 07:51:20PM -0500, Derek R. Morton wrote: A mint condition ScuzzyGraph! Amazingly rare... which the BuyItNow prices attests to. Not my personal cup of tea as I am more into the Quadra series, but still! I believe (my memory does get foggy as the years pass) the graphics are somewhat primitive in that there is only one bit per color (8 total colors including black, white, primary and secondary), but you do get color out of your Plus. On a slight tangent: while the 8 colours may also be a limitation of the adapter, it is also a limitation of QuickDraw. I seem to recall reading that the non-Colour QuickDraw could support 8 colours, a feature which was supposed to be used for colour printers. Quite true. QuickDraw (predecessor of Color QuickDraw) could support 8 colors (Black, White, Red, Green, Blue, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow, IIRC). It was built into QuickDraw and you could draw colors to the MacPlus screen except of course every color but white shows up as black. While you couldn't see the colors on screen you could print using an ImageWriter II with color cartridge and print these colors. With the introduction of the Mac II and ColorQuickDraw it was real neat to see a supposedly black and white program from the MacPlus vintage displaying colors on screen. A few programs were written to use the 8 colors. When it came out it was a real show stopper but I don't think it sold well. Aside from the cost there was the issue of finding software that could use it. There were few programs that could. It was something like all the conversions to either add a SCSI port, serial HD or an internal HD to 512K Macs. They were neat but expensive and the drive had to be partitioned into lots of 400K floppies. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
