Re: SE/30 Ethernet

2005-02-12 Thread Mark Benson
On 11 Feb 2005, at 19:32, Liam Proven wrote:
Speed?
Yeh speed is the biggest difference. Also the Asante PDS card I have in 
my (currently in bits) SE/30 is totally compatible with Open Transport 
and requires no drivers other than the standard Apple ones included 
with OT 1.x.

I have an Danya SCSI/Port SCSI Ethernet adaptor on my Classic II 
it's *dog* slow, at least under MacOS 7.6.1. Not got it working on
System 6 yet.
No power brick though - it takes a passthru' from the ADB port.
If you can get an internal card, go for it in preference. Not possible
on the Classic II AFAIK - no slot.
As far as I know the Mac, Mac 512, Plus, Classic and Classic II are the 
only desktop machines you can't buy internal Network Interface Cards 
for, or don''t have LAN built-in as standard. (Man that was a horrible 
sentence ;o) ). No other examples come straight to mind at least.

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Re: SE/30 Ethernet

2005-02-12 Thread classic
Yeh speed is the biggest difference. Also the Asante PDS card I have in 
my (currently in bits) SE/30 is totally compatible with Open Transport 
and requires no drivers other than the standard Apple ones included 
with OT 1.x.


As far as I know the Mac, Mac 512, Plus, Classic and Classic II are the 
only desktop machines you can't buy internal Network Interface Cards 
for, or don''t have LAN built-in as standard. (Man that was a horrible 
sentence ;o) ). No other examples come straight to mind at least.

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I guess you could set up an apple internet router which is a bridge
between localtalk and ethernet though that is soo sloow that the
scsi ethernet might actually feel fast..used to run this sw on an LC.

Kevin


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Re: SE/30 Ethernet

2005-02-08 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 2/8/05 3:30 PM, Thomas Burns wrote:

Is there any difference between a SCSI to Ethernet adapter/bridge or an 
ethernet network card?

To install the network card, you need the torx tool to open your SE/30. 
The SCSI adapter will use an external power brick, and connects with a 
SCSI cable which might not be bundled. In both cases, you need a driver 
disk that matches the card or adapter. Some drivers may not be compatible 
with Open Transport.

The SCSI adapter may be slower than the card, or you may not notice any 
difference. There are some reports that the SCSI devices are troublesome, 
and some reports that Asante cards need to be connected to 10BaseT hubs 
rather than directly to 10/100 equipment.

If you need an ethernet adapter for any Mac, contact me off-list.

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SE/30 Ethernet

2005-02-07 Thread Thomas Burns
Just a quick question about getting an SE/30 on a LAN.
Is there any difference between a SCSI to Ethernet adapter/bridge or an 
ethernet network card?

Thanks
Thomas 

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Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card

2004-01-08 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 07/01/2004 19:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind 
of ethernet adaptor would work in it.  Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS 
ethernet card, or would that not work?

(Sorry if this should have been posted on the compact macs list ~ i 
just didn't want to join another list for this one question :D  )
-
Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in 
the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the chassis 
frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list 
yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new ones 
at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh.

Ken

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Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card

2004-01-08 Thread Kyle DePasquale
Thanks for the info.
It is very helpful :D
Kyle



On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 07:04  AM, Ken wrote:

My Reply follows quote. On 07/01/2004 19:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind
of ethernet adaptor would work in it.  Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS
ethernet card, or would that not work?
(Sorry if this should have been posted on the compact macs list ~ i
just didn't want to join another list for this one question :D  )
-
Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in
the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the 
chassis
frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list
yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new 
ones
at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh.

Ken

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Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card

2004-01-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Kyle DePasquale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was
 wondering what kind 
 of ethernet adaptor would work in it.  Can the SE/30
 take an LCPDS 
 ethernet card, or would that not work?

It uses SE/30 PDS cards, and some IIsi PDS cards will
work.

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Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card

2004-01-08 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:04:41 -0800
From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in
the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the chassis
frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list
yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new ones
at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh.
The supplier is Small Dog Electronics who is also a list sponsor.  A 
classy outfit in my experience.

The LC style cards will not work in the SE/30, BTW.The SE/30 
requires a card made for the SE/30 or the IIsi.   Those are the only 
two machines that have that particular type of PDS slot.   Other 
machines used the same physical connector, but are wired differently.

Some Apple documentation claims that the IIfx PDS slot is the same, 
but reports seem to indicate that it isn't.

Jeff Walther

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Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card

2004-01-08 Thread Kyle DePasquale
Thanks very much for the info, everyone!

It will come in very handy.

Kyle

On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 02:42  PM, Jeff Walther wrote:

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:04:41 -0800
From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in
the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the 
chassis
frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list
yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new 
ones
at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh.
The supplier is Small Dog Electronics who is also a list sponsor.  A 
classy outfit in my experience.

The LC style cards will not work in the SE/30, BTW.The SE/30 
requires a card made for the SE/30 or the IIsi.   Those are the only 
two machines that have that particular type of PDS slot.   Other 
machines used the same physical connector, but are wired differently.

Some Apple documentation claims that the IIfx PDS slot is the same, 
but reports seem to indicate that it isn't.

Jeff Walther

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SE/30 Ethernet Card

2004-01-07 Thread Kyle DePasquale
Hi!

I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind 
of ethernet adaptor would work in it.  Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS 
ethernet card, or would that not work?

(Sorry if this should have been posted on the compact macs list ~ i 
just didn't want to join another list for this one question :D  )

Kyle

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SE/30 Ethernet Card now works!!!

2002-06-21 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx

Made the golden mistake to changing to things at once... now I have a 32Mb
SE/30 with ethernet. Sweet. Thank you for everyone's help.

I have to say that, once the card was FPU-less and not holding back bootup,
it was a doodle to configure - as soon as I checked the Network Control
Panel the EtherTalk option was there - no hunting down for some esoteric
driver for a card I don't even know the name off. Why are peripherals like
this anymore... I have a Nubus ethernet card and a RasterOps Painboard Li in
my IIfx and despite having installed System 7.53, System 6, A/UX and now
MacOS 7.6.1 after clean wipes each time both cards always work just as
well, cuz RasterOps doesn't exist anymore! As far as I can tell the
Paintboards drivers are in ROM or Flash ROM... surely this is much better
solution for add on cards, rather than discs that just get lost.

Ben.
One Happy SE/30 owner


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