Re: SE/30 Ethernet
On 11 Feb 2005, at 19:32, Liam Proven wrote: Speed? Yeh speed is the biggest difference. Also the Asante PDS card I have in my (currently in bits) SE/30 is totally compatible with Open Transport and requires no drivers other than the standard Apple ones included with OT 1.x. I have an Danya SCSI/Port SCSI Ethernet adaptor on my Classic II it's *dog* slow, at least under MacOS 7.6.1. Not got it working on System 6 yet. No power brick though - it takes a passthru' from the ADB port. If you can get an internal card, go for it in preference. Not possible on the Classic II AFAIK - no slot. As far as I know the Mac, Mac 512, Plus, Classic and Classic II are the only desktop machines you can't buy internal Network Interface Cards for, or don''t have LAN built-in as standard. (Man that was a horrible sentence ;o) ). No other examples come straight to mind at least. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Introducing Macintosh Classic II - pick one out on your way past the trash! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet
Yeh speed is the biggest difference. Also the Asante PDS card I have in my (currently in bits) SE/30 is totally compatible with Open Transport and requires no drivers other than the standard Apple ones included with OT 1.x. As far as I know the Mac, Mac 512, Plus, Classic and Classic II are the only desktop machines you can't buy internal Network Interface Cards for, or don''t have LAN built-in as standard. (Man that was a horrible sentence ;o) ). No other examples come straight to mind at least. -- Mark Benson I guess you could set up an apple internet router which is a bridge between localtalk and ethernet though that is soo sloow that the scsi ethernet might actually feel fast..used to run this sw on an LC. Kevin -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet
on 2/8/05 3:30 PM, Thomas Burns wrote: Is there any difference between a SCSI to Ethernet adapter/bridge or an ethernet network card? To install the network card, you need the torx tool to open your SE/30. The SCSI adapter will use an external power brick, and connects with a SCSI cable which might not be bundled. In both cases, you need a driver disk that matches the card or adapter. Some drivers may not be compatible with Open Transport. The SCSI adapter may be slower than the card, or you may not notice any difference. There are some reports that the SCSI devices are troublesome, and some reports that Asante cards need to be connected to 10BaseT hubs rather than directly to 10/100 equipment. If you need an ethernet adapter for any Mac, contact me off-list. Bryan Kattwinkel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
SE/30 Ethernet
Just a quick question about getting an SE/30 on a LAN. Is there any difference between a SCSI to Ethernet adapter/bridge or an ethernet network card? Thanks Thomas -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card
My Reply follows quote. On 07/01/2004 19:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind of ethernet adaptor would work in it. Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS ethernet card, or would that not work? (Sorry if this should have been posted on the compact macs list ~ i just didn't want to join another list for this one question :D ) - Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the chassis frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new ones at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh. Ken -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card
Thanks for the info. It is very helpful :D Kyle On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 07:04 AM, Ken wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 07/01/2004 19:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind of ethernet adaptor would work in it. Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS ethernet card, or would that not work? (Sorry if this should have been posted on the compact macs list ~ i just didn't want to join another list for this one question :D ) - Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the chassis frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new ones at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh. Ken -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card
--- Kyle DePasquale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind of ethernet adaptor would work in it. Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS ethernet card, or would that not work? It uses SE/30 PDS cards, and some IIsi PDS cards will work. = Say hello to Juror #49. Yep, I'm on jury duty until the end of March. Gotta call in each weekend. Fun. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:04:41 -0800 From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the chassis frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new ones at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh. The supplier is Small Dog Electronics who is also a list sponsor. A classy outfit in my experience. The LC style cards will not work in the SE/30, BTW.The SE/30 requires a card made for the SE/30 or the IIsi. Those are the only two machines that have that particular type of PDS slot. Other machines used the same physical connector, but are wired differently. Some Apple documentation claims that the IIfx PDS slot is the same, but reports seem to indicate that it isn't. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 Ethernet Card
Thanks very much for the info, everyone! It will come in very handy. Kyle On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 02:42 PM, Jeff Walther wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:04:41 -0800 From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, the ethernet card for the SE/30 is a two part thing. one part in the slot and another connected via a ribbon cable mounted to the chassis frame so it sticks out the back of the case. On the compact Macs list yesterday, someone mentioned a supplier that had several hundred new ones at $1.00 each plus $7.00 sh. The supplier is Small Dog Electronics who is also a list sponsor. A classy outfit in my experience. The LC style cards will not work in the SE/30, BTW.The SE/30 requires a card made for the SE/30 or the IIsi. Those are the only two machines that have that particular type of PDS slot. Other machines used the same physical connector, but are wired differently. Some Apple documentation claims that the IIfx PDS slot is the same, but reports seem to indicate that it isn't. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
SE/30 Ethernet Card
Hi! I am about to acquire a macintosh SE/30, and I was wondering what kind of ethernet adaptor would work in it. Can the SE/30 take an LCPDS ethernet card, or would that not work? (Sorry if this should have been posted on the compact macs list ~ i just didn't want to join another list for this one question :D ) Kyle -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
SE/30 Ethernet Card now works!!!
Made the golden mistake to changing to things at once... now I have a 32Mb SE/30 with ethernet. Sweet. Thank you for everyone's help. I have to say that, once the card was FPU-less and not holding back bootup, it was a doodle to configure - as soon as I checked the Network Control Panel the EtherTalk option was there - no hunting down for some esoteric driver for a card I don't even know the name off. Why are peripherals like this anymore... I have a Nubus ethernet card and a RasterOps Painboard Li in my IIfx and despite having installed System 7.53, System 6, A/UX and now MacOS 7.6.1 after clean wipes each time both cards always work just as well, cuz RasterOps doesn't exist anymore! As far as I can tell the Paintboards drivers are in ROM or Flash ROM... surely this is much better solution for add on cards, rather than discs that just get lost. Ben. One Happy SE/30 owner -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com