Re: Turbo Mouse
Yes they did, but it was a DB-9 serial port. The mini DIN8 didn't come along until the SE? Or Was it the Mac II? And what is it doing on a mouse? My memory fails me. I used to know. Rick on 9/22/05 5:29 PM, Allan Hunter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh did. Be that as it may, I would assume a TurboMouse with serial port would be older than one with an ADB port. At 4:10 PM -0400 9/22/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: ... now that would be interesting to know. What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I don´t remember well. Therefore it would be that Kensington released that as a way to use the device on both kind of serial ports maybe? Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, then? How old are we talking about? :D Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
The Mini DIN8 was first seen on the Plus and persisted through subsequent Macs until the iMacs and blue and whtie G3s in 1998-1999. The ports were labeled as printer and modem. The only Macs with 9 pin serials for printer and modem were the 128K, 512K, and 512Ke. The 512Ke was discontinued in September 1987, so support for 9-pin peripherals continued for a few years after the Plus came out. What the Plus DID have in terms of 9 pin serials was a mouse port. It wasn't like the printer and modem ports and is not interchangeable with those two. Keyboards connected with the phone jack on the front of the machine. The 512K, 128K, and 512Ke all had this port as well. Note that the last Pluses were made in October 1990 so the support for the mouse port continued into the early 1990s. In addition, the 9 pin serial connector was used to connect the mouse on the Lisa and the Apple II series (execpt the IIGS), although it was a card that was added on in all but the IIc and IIc+. This port had widespread useage from 1983-1993. Note that a mouse that was designed for, say, the IIe (some say Mouse IIe) will work on a Mac Plus. The SE and II introduced the ADB port, but only on the Macs. Months before the SE and II came out in March 1987 the Apple IIGS had ADB (back in September 1986). It also used the Mini DIN8s for serial. The cable here is not an 8 pin, but rather a 5 pin. It looks like an S-video cable and I read somewhere a long time ago that S-video cables can be used for ADB if a long cord is needed. I've just started reading into this mouse discussion with this post, but I'm assuming it's a Plus or earlier mouse (sometimes called Mac Plus mouse). If it does have an 8 pin serial and not the 5 pin that it probably is should it have a DIN connector then it's the first I've ever seen on a Mac that doesn't use a standard input port. Scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they did, but it was a DB-9 serial port. The mini DIN8 didn't come along until the SE? Or Was it the Mac II? And what is it doing on a mouse? My memory fails me. I used to know. Rick on 9/22/05 5:29 PM, Allan Hunter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh did. Be that as it may, I would assume a TurboMouse with serial port would be older than one with an ADB port. At 4:10 PM -0400 9/22/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: ... now that would be interesting to know. What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I don´t remember well. Therefore it would be that Kensington released that as a way to use the device on both kind of serial ports maybe? Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, then? How old are we talking about? :D Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery,
Re: Turbo Mouse
I appreciate your reply which does clear up some things. The confusion is a mini DIN-8, serial-like port on the Turbo Mouse itself. on 9/23/05 2:15 AM, Scott Baret at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mini DIN8 was first seen on the Plus and persisted through subsequent Macs until the iMacs and blue and whtie G3s in 1998-1999. The ports were labeled as printer and modem. The only Macs with 9 pin serials for printer and modem were the 128K, 512K, and 512Ke. The 512Ke was discontinued in September 1987, so support for 9-pin peripherals continued for a few years after the Plus came out. What the Plus DID have in terms of 9 pin serials was a mouse port. It wasn't like the printer and modem ports and is not interchangeable with those two. Keyboards connected with the phone jack on the front of the machine. The 512K, 128K, and 512Ke all had this port as well. Note that the last Pluses were made in October 1990 so the support for the mouse port continued into the early 1990s. In addition, the 9 pin serial connector was used to connect the mouse on the Lisa and the Apple II series (execpt the IIGS), although it was a card that was added on in all but the IIc and IIc+. This port had widespread useage from 1983-1993. Note that a mouse that was designed for, say, the IIe (some say Mouse IIe) will work on a Mac Plus. The SE and II introduced the ADB port, but only on the Macs. Months before the SE and II came out in March 1987 the Apple IIGS had ADB (back in September 1986). It also used the Mini DIN8s for serial. The cable here is not an 8 pin, but rather a 5 pin. It looks like an S-video cable and I read somewhere a long time ago that S-video cables can be used for ADB if a long cord is needed. I've just started reading into this mouse discussion with this post, but I'm assuming it's a Plus or earlier mouse (sometimes called Mac Plus mouse). If it does have an 8 pin serial and not the 5 pin that it probably is should it have a DIN connector then it's the first I've ever seen on a Mac that doesn't use a standard input port. Scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they did, but it was a DB-9 serial port. The mini DIN8 didn't come along until the SE? Or Was it the Mac II? And what is it doing on a mouse? My memory fails me. I used to know. Rick on 9/22/05 5:29 PM, Allan Hunter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh did. Be that as it may, I would assume a TurboMouse with serial port would be older than one with an ADB port. At 4:10 PM -0400 9/22/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: ... now that would be interesting to know. What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I don´t remember well. Therefore it would be that Kensington released that as a way to use the device on both kind of serial ports maybe? Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, then? How old are we talking about? :D Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Turbo Mouse
Hi! Quoting Allan: Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh did. The IIgs, not the IIe, used the ADB. Willi -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh did. Nops. Not in the IIe, I think. I guess it was the IIgs... -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:15:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Baret [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've just started reading into this mouse discussion with this post, but I'm assuming it's a Plus or earlier mouse (sometimes called Mac Plus mouse). If it does have an 8 pin serial and not the 5 pin that it probably is should it have a DIN connector then it's the first I've ever seen on a Mac that doesn't use a standard input port. I am also joining the discussion late. I have here a joystick for the Mac which plugs into the serial port instead of into the ADB port. It's made by USA Identity Systems and the part number is IDFLTSTK-M. It has a driver so that it can work through the serial port on a Mac. It has the mini-DIN8 connector. I imagine that there may be a few rare mice out there which plug into the serial port also. It's not really any stretch from a joystick serial driver to a mouse serial driver. I don't see how that mini-DIN8 port on the Turbo Mouse could be anything but a serial connector. But I wonder if the 9 pin connector is meant for a PC or for the mouse connector on a Plus or earlier Mac. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Turbo Mouse
I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. One is a 'Turbo Mouse' with 2 buttons and 2 ADB ports. The wheels can be seen on the back. I'm assuming this was for a Mac Plus but there is no version sticker on the back. The second is a Turbo Mouse Plus with two buttons but it has the old DB-9 connector and what appears to be a serial port. On the back it says version 3.0 but has no date. I remember the 128K and 512K had a DB-9 for mouse and keyboard - and I believe my first Turbo Mouse was for a 512K - but what gives with the serial port? Surely nobody was connecting a mouse to a serial port. I sure don't remember anything like that. Any help would be appreciated. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Turbo Mouse 2
I should mention that the serial port is a mini DIN-8 and the TM Plus 50% taller than the ADB TM. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
My Reply follows quote. On 22/09/2005 10:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. One is a 'Turbo Mouse' with 2 buttons and 2 ADB ports. The wheels can be seen on the back. I'm assuming this was for a Mac Plus but there is no version sticker on the back. --- Hard to say what they were originally sold for but the Plus also has the DB9 type connector, no ADB connection. Ken -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
On 22/09/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. [...] Surely nobody was connecting a mouse to a serial port. I sure don't remember anything like that. Almost all early PC mice connected to a D9 RS232 serial port. Although wired differently, Atari ST mice also used the same or similar connector the Commodore Amiga used something resembling a PC joystick port (IIRC). -- Liam Proven · http://livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=lproven AOL/AIM/iChat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] · MSN/Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Skype: liamproven · ICQ: 73187508 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
At 12:01 PM -0500 9/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. One is a 'Turbo Mouse' with 2 buttons and 2 ADB ports. The wheels can be seen on the back. I'm assuming this was for a Mac Plus but there is no version sticker on the back. As Ken points out, it would not have been for the Mac Plus because the Plus didn't have ADB. I remember having one of these - USED - connected to my SE, but by then the SE was long in the tooth, so it may have been produced quite some time after the SE was no longer sold. The second is a Turbo Mouse Plus with two buttons but it has the old DB-9 connector and what appears to be a serial port. On the back it says version 3.0 but has no date. I remember the 128K and 512K had a DB-9 for mouse and keyboard - and I believe my first Turbo Mouse was for a 512K - but what gives with the serial port? Surely nobody was connecting a mouse to a serial port. I sure don't remember anything like that. I remember that there once existed graphics tablets (the ancestors of today's Wacoms) that plugged into serial ports, back in the days before ADB. So a Turbo Mouse that did likewise isn't as much of a stretch as you may think. Any help would be appreciated. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Allan Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.bellatlantic.net/~adhdah/FmPro/fmdevindex.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
On Sep 22, 2005, at 13:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. Well, as far as I Know, Kensington is a parallel merchant rather than a junction with Apple. I am not realy sure whether they would make or ship a product for it to be used with a specific mac model. I Remember having either mouses and trackballs from Kensington, bought without any orientation on which equipment they should be used on (besides the For Mac directions on the box, or either the mac logo.. any of them... or the ADB specification). I remember the 128K and 512K had a DB-9 for mouse and keyboard This I am not so sure about. My old Macintosh (one of the first ones) used a telephone-type RJ11 connector for the keyboard, instead Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
Correct: the 128K and similar use an RJ11 connectors between the keyboard and the base unit. The mouse used a DB-9 (D-sub) connection. Mike Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: On Sep 22, 2005, at 13:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. Well, as far as I Know, Kensington is a parallel merchant rather than a junction with Apple. I am not realy sure whether they would make or ship a product for it to be used with a specific mac model. I Remember having either mouses and trackballs from Kensington, bought without any orientation on which equipment they should be used on (besides the For Mac directions on the box, or either the mac logo.. any of them... or the ADB specification). I remember the 128K and 512K had a DB-9 for mouse and keyboard This I am not so sure about. My old Macintosh (one of the first ones) used a telephone-type RJ11 connector for the keyboard, instead Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( -- Mike Sloane Allamuchy NJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.geocities.com/mikesloane Images: www.fotki.com/mikesloane In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the things you have long taken for granted. - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970); English writer philosopher and mathematician. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.4/109 - Release Date: 9/21/2005 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Rick on 9/22/05 1:34 PM, Mike Sloane at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct: the 128K and similar use an RJ11 connectors between the keyboard and the base unit. The mouse used a DB-9 (D-sub) connection. Mike Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: On Sep 22, 2005, at 13:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a pair of Kensington Turbo Mouse's that I'm trying to determine what Macs they were originally sold for. Well, as far as I Know, Kensington is a parallel merchant rather than a junction with Apple. I am not realy sure whether they would make or ship a product for it to be used with a specific mac model. I Remember having either mouses and trackballs from Kensington, bought without any orientation on which equipment they should be used on (besides the For Mac directions on the box, or either the mac logo.. any of them... or the ADB specification). I remember the 128K and 512K had a DB-9 for mouse and keyboard This I am not so sure about. My old Macintosh (one of the first ones) used a telephone-type RJ11 connector for the keyboard, instead Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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... now that would be interesting to know. What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I don´t remember well. Therefore it would be that Kensington released that as a way to use the device on both kind of serial ports maybe? Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, then? How old are we talking about? :D Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
Original 128K Mac, 512K Mac, Mac Plus all had the serial port. ADB didn't come out on Macs until the SE. Oddly enough, it came out sooner than that on the Apple II series (IIe, if I remember correctly), which had ADB before the Macintosh did. Be that as it may, I would assume a TurboMouse with serial port would be older than one with an ADB port. At 4:10 PM -0400 9/22/05, Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: ... now that would be interesting to know. What did came first? Serial port or ADB Port? I don´t remember well. Therefore it would be that Kensington released that as a way to use the device on both kind of serial ports maybe? Then I ask myself.. Why not over ADB connection, then? How old are we talking about? :D Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jcdlc http://jcdlc.blogspot.com )O( On Sep 22, 2005, at 16:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Rick -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Allan Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.bellatlantic.net/~adhdah/FmPro/fmdevindex.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Turbo Mouse
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that now and appreciate everybody's response. What do you suppose the mini DIN 8 is on the one with the DB-9? I can find nothing on Kensington's site. Probably so a serial cable could be used to connect it to the round serial ports on newer Macs. It will be total Fandemonium! August (Fri) 4th, (Sat) 5th (Sun) 6th, 2006 http://www.fandemonium.org __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
