Re: pc/mac net
--- Adam Cora Dietrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i ofund and installed the driver but didnt see any differenence afterwareds i installed PCMAClan on the PC and it claims the mac isnt send any packets. then again, should it be if it doesnt know the other computer is there? Get OT Tool from www.neon.com and try pinging the PC from the Mac. = When you are wrestling for possession of a sword, the man with the handle always wins. Hiro Protagonist __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
pc/mac net
i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. darren gave me the following settings for the mac: Mactpc = 192.168.0.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, domain gotocrystal.net. x = a number between 2 and 254, with alittle room left. Open transport dhcp, router 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, starting domain gotocrystal.net are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
pc/mac net
i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. darren gave me the following settings for the mac: Mactpc = 192.168.0.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, domain gotocrystal.net. x = a number between 2 and 254, with alittle room left. Open transport dhcp, router 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.1, starting domain gotocrystal.net are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. Did you find which card you have and download the mac installer for it? I believe it will contain some form of diagnostic software along with installing the correct drivers. The Install Guide for every MacCon card is the same .pdf file, page 61 contains some basic graphics from which you can compare and id your board. The MCLC10TIII and the MCiLC-10T both use the same ver 5.6.1 installer and are the closest things to Greggs MacCon-LC which I can't find info for. Its place in the pulldown on the link he proves yeilds nothing except a link to the page I provided earlier where the two names above are closest. Probably why I didn't use it. are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? You do have ICS installed and running? The ICshare nic will have the default address of 192.168.0.1, the only protocol used is tpc and since the mac doesn't do netbios or smb, by default it ignores workgroup settings. also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on Ping? Unless you have a program like Basilisk, pcmaclan or some whiz bang version of windows that does client and server duties you will not see the mac with the pc, pcmaclan will allow you to see the mac in the network neighborhood if installed. You can use Dave on the mac, in which case you'd need the workgroup name for the mac. ICS shares the internet connection, not files. The two machines are invisable to each other without other software. Setting the mac to recieve the address via dhcp will show you in two ways whether the mac recieves a address or not. Once the mac reboots it should have a 192.168.0.x address in the tcp/ip control panel, a different address means somethings not right (something like a 169.x.x.x) and also means a really long wait before you reach the desktop. I guessed your isp's domain was gotocrystal.net from your return address which may be wrong, if so fixing it may help. Using Winipcfg the domain name you need on the mac is whats in the Hostname box minus the name of the pc you ran Winipcfg on. Clear as mud? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
i ofund and installed the driver but didnt see any differenence afterwareds i installed PCMAClan on the PC and it claims the mac isnt send any packets. then again, should it be if it doesnt know the other computer is there? Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i just decided the heck with the hub for now and wired a crossover cable direct from the mac to the pc, and then limited the pc to 10mbps. the link light for each card is now lit, but i am still having no luck communication-wise. Did you find which card you have and download the mac installer for it? I believe it will contain some form of diagnostic software along with installing the correct drivers. The Install Guide for every MacCon card is the same .pdf file, page 61 contains some basic graphics from which you can compare and id your board. The MCLC10TIII and the MCiLC-10T both use the same ver 5.6.1 installer and are the closest things to Greggs MacCon-LC which I can't find info for. Its place in the pulldown on the link he proves yeilds nothing except a link to the page I provided earlier where the two names above are closest. Probably why I didn't use it. are there any suggestions for the pc end? should i be using certain protocols, and setting my workgroup to specific settings? You do have ICS installed and running? The ICshare nic will have the default address of 192.168.0.1, the only protocol used is tpc and since the mac doesn't do netbios or smb, by default it ignores workgroup settings. also, is there a way to make sure the mac is broadcasting-- if windows you can look in network neighborhood and see the computer you are on Ping? Unless you have a program like Basilisk, pcmaclan or some whiz bang version of windows that does client and server duties you will not see the mac with the pc, pcmaclan will allow you to see the mac in the network neighborhood if installed. You can use Dave on the mac, in which case you'd need the workgroup name for the mac. ICS shares the internet connection, not files. The two machines are invisable to each other without other software. Setting the mac to recieve the address via dhcp will show you in two ways whether the mac recieves a address or not. Once the mac reboots it should have a 192.168.0.x address in the tcp/ip control panel, a different address means somethings not right (something like a 169.x.x.x) and also means a really long wait before you reach the desktop. I guessed your isp's domain was gotocrystal.net from your return address which may be wrong, if so fixing it may help. Using Winipcfg the domain name you need on the mac is whats in the Hostname box minus the name of the pc you ran Winipcfg on. Clear as mud? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i ofund and installed the driver but didnt see any differenence afterwareds Did it install the asante trouble shooter? i installed PCMAClan on the PC and it claims the mac isnt send any packets. then again, should it be if it doesnt know the other computer is there? If its the window that pops up at bootup on the pc, tick the box to disable it. The client side of pcmaclan is looking for a appleshare server which is different to a normal mac with filesharing enabled. Also check any firewall you may have Pcmaclan should find the mac if file sharing is enabled and you have selected a share and given permissions in the user and groups control panel. The address of the mac doesn't seem to be of much concern to appletalk. Provided the mac's card is working properly. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i ofund and installed the driver but didnt see any differenence afterwareds Did it install the asante trouble shooter? i installed PCMAClan on the PC and it claims the mac isnt send any packets. then again, should it be if it doesnt know the other computer is there? yes, its the window that pops up at bootup, so i wont worry about that. i have firewall disabled, file sharing is running and i chose a specific folder to share, and have it set so anyone can see it If its the window that pops up at bootup on the pc, tick the box to disable it. The client side of pcmaclan is looking for a appleshare server which is different to a normal mac with filesharing enabled. Also check any firewall you may have Pcmaclan should find the mac if file sharing is enabled and you have selected a share and given permissions in the user and groups control panel. The address of the mac doesn't seem to be of much concern to appletalk. Provided the mac's card is working properly. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Check chapter 4 of the installation guide, the macconmlrb.pdf is pretty comprehensive. I'll post it to you if you have trouble downloading from the asante site. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
i read all of chapters 4 and 5, and rean the trouble shoot. the ping-pong test failed and the bandwidth utilization fails as for the trouble shooting checklist at the begining of chapter 5-- i dont how to choose ethertalk phase1 or phase 2, and i dont know which one i should be using either. i dont see any appletalk zones anywhere-- do i need to set these up? and i am not sure that the ethernet driver is properly installed everything else was check Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Check chapter 4 of the installation guide, the macconmlrb.pdf is pretty comprehensive. I'll post it to you if you have trouble downloading from the asante site. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net--NEVER TRUST AUTO SELECT
it is working! i can access pc from mac, mac from pc no ics though. also, do i need pcmaclan or can i get rid of that? if i can dump it, whats the great attraction to it? Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i read all of chapters 4 and 5, and rean the trouble shoot. the ping-pong test failed and the bandwidth utilization fails as for the trouble shooting checklist at the begining of chapter 5-- i dont how to choose ethertalk phase1 or phase 2, and i dont know which one i should be using either. i dont see any appletalk zones anywhere-- do i need to set these up? and i am not sure that the ethernet driver is properly installed everything else was check Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i did a search for asante on the system and all it comes up with is the files i installed from Check chapter 4 of the installation guide, the macconmlrb.pdf is pretty comprehensive. I'll post it to you if you have trouble downloading from the asante site. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net
Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: i read all of chapters 4 and 5, and rean the trouble shoot. the ping-pong test failed and the bandwidth utilization fails as for the trouble shooting checklist at the begining of chapter 5-- i dont how to choose ethertalk phase1 or phase 2, and i dont know which one i should be using either. I dont have a 68k mac with a asante card, I'm guessing phase 1 and doubt it makes much difference i dont see any appletalk zones anywhere-- do i need to set these up? Nope. and i am not sure that the ethernet driver is properly installed I never have been so far Be nice if one of the mac gurus left on this list could help out as this clueless pc gamer is lost for ideas apart from either adding a 10-baseT hub to your setup as Asante recommends (I have little faith in using x-over cables with macs) or find a better nic. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pc/mac net--NEVER TRUST AUTO SELECT
thanks for the help darren and gregg and everyone else, it seems to be mostly working now! Darren wrote: Adam Cora Dietrick wrote: it is working! i can access pc from mac, mac from pc no ics though. also, do i need pcmaclan or can i get rid of that? if i can dump it, whats the great attraction to it? Using winipcfg find the address for your ip's dns servers, make note of them and try them in the tcp/ip CP's dns box. I think I've given you a linux configuration rather than a ICS config. Opp's :) http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=230151 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
