RE: Is there any accessory that you can buy that will work with iPhone 4 s and iPod touch 4 to give it an FM tuner?

[Anthony Vece]

Motorola had such an accessory years ago.

 

It was a pair of earphones that worked in conjunction with there high end
cell phones in the late 90's.

 

But, you'd be hard pressed to find something like that today.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is there any accessory that you can buy that will work with
iPhone 4 s and iPod touch 4 to give it an FM tuner?

 

If there were, I'm pretty sure your iThings wouldn't have the slightest clue
what to do with it. The support for that kinda thing just isn't there,
hardware or otherwise.

 

  _  

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Of Jen Colley
Sent: May-30-12 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there any accessory that you can buy that will work with iPhone
4 s and iPod touch 4 to give it an FM tuner?

Hi,  

I had a friend sometime ago who had an old iPod 3rd generation nano and they
had a little remote that plugged into the bottom of the iPod and by
attaching headphones, they had an FM tuner on ther iPod.  

Does anyone know of such a thing that would work with the iPhone 4 s and the
iPod touch 4?  

I want to be able to listen to local radio on both these devices but when
you're on a bus you don't always have wifi.  

Any help would be appreciated.  

Jen  

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Viber

[Ramy Moustafa]

 

 

Hi all:

 

What about improving viber accessibility? Can't we try to send some comments
to the developper to  lable  some other buttons in the program?

Any ideas?

 

Cheers:

Ramy Moustafa

Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios

skype:

roma30

Facebook:

moustafa.r...@gmail.com

Twitter:

Ramymoustafa

youtube chanael:

www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber

 

 

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RE: Is there any accessory that you can buy that will work with iPhone 4 s and iPod touch 4 to give it an FM tuner?

[James Homuth]

If there were, I'm pretty sure your iThings wouldn't have the slightest clue
what to do with it. The support for that kinda thing just isn't there,
hardware or otherwise.


  _  

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Of Jen Colley
Sent: May-30-12 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there any accessory that you can buy that will work with iPhone
4 s and iPod touch 4 to give it an FM tuner?


Hi,  
I had a friend sometime ago who had an old iPod 3rd generation nano and they
had a little remote that plugged into the bottom of the iPod and by
attaching headphones, they had an FM tuner on ther iPod.  
Does anyone know of such a thing that would work with the iPhone 4 s and the
iPod touch 4?  
I want to be able to listen to local radio on both these devices but when
you're on a bus you don't always have wifi.  
Any help would be appreciated.  
Jen  

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Re: typing on the phone

[Tracy]

I agree with Carol and Chris.

Support for other braille systems would be great, and it would be nice to be 
able to use contractions.

I've also been a braillist for many years, and I love the app, but because I'm 
not used to the way the punctuation is formed, it puts me off a little.

Thank you for the great work you are doing.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Pearson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:05 AM
  Subject: Re: typing on the phone


  ;Hithere

  I find it a good and useful app though don't get around to using it too 
often.  I do find the punctuation doesn't come naturally and that's one main 
reason why I don't use it more.

  Having been a Braillist for getting on for 60 years, it's also hard to think 
in a different concept for writing and I'd therefore still prefer to write with 
two hands in a normal way.

  All this said, remember I do like the app very much and commend you on your 
efforts to date.

  --
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   Original Message 
  From: EWTEch Accessibility
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: typing on the phone

  > Hi everybody,
  > 
  > 
  > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies,
  > the developers of TypeInBraille app. 
  > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if
  > you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile
  > device.  
  > 
  > 
  > For those who want to get more information about
  > TypeInBraille:
  > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille  
  > 
  > 
  > Thank you
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
  >  wrote: 
  > 
  > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just
  > as you 
  > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next
  > letter. I did well 
  > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted.
  > Unfortunately though, 
  > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more
  > often now than I 
  > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try
  > that when 
  > I've more time.
  > 
  > Jeremiah
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
  > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the
  > > screen, then we have to swap or change angle
  > > dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when
  > > touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. -
  > > shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. 
  > >
  > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an
  > > interesting deviation in which case covering half the
  > > kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other
  > > taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message -
  > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
  > > To: 
  > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
  > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
  > >
  > >
  > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when
  > > to switch the 
  > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos,
  > > certain words, 
  > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the
  > > hunter? Just 
  > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method,
  > > that's the only 
  > > thing that seemed odd.
  > >
  > > I've learned much from this typing discussion.
  > > Initially, I loved the 
  > > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has
  > > gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I
  > > remember it being when I got 
  > > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just
  > > be my 
  > > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and
  > > more accurately, 
  > > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this
  > > thread, I'm 
  > > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
  > >
  > > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
  > > Mobile: 704-996-5334
  > > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
  > >
  > >
  > > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
  > >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in
  > >> portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. 
  > >> I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. 
  > >>
  > >> Jane
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
  > >>
  > >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone
  > >>> sideways,  so hand over
  > >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it. 
  > >>> Moved hands a bit, now
  > >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein
  > >>> the end.  Once you learn a thing one way, there needs
  > >>> to be a darned good motivation to undo it
  > >>> and learn it another.
  > >>>
  > >>> RobH.
  > >>> - Original Message -
  > >>> From: "Holly" 
  > >>> To: "VIPhone" 
  > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
  > >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my
  > >>> right index 
  > >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs
  > >>> while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have
  > >>> used a home row on a computer since age nine, so
  > >>> learning

Re: Hanging with Friends

[RDLAW]

is there a settings option that may allow what you need?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Charlene Young 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 18:33
  Subject: Hanging with Friends


  Hello,
  I have the free version of Hanging with Friends, but I also have the paid 
version now and would like to use the paid version instead.  Is there a way to 
log out of the free one so that i can use the paid one?  I tried to put my user 
name into the paid one but it tells me that this user name is already in use.

  Thanks in advance,
  Charlene

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Re: A question about Draftpad

[RDLAW]

hey Kim I think this gentleman is suggesting that maybe after tapping send 
that at that time it may ask for the email address.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Harris" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:16
Subject: Re: A question about Draftpad


Let me suggest an experiment:  on the basis it might, or even ought to 
know

or be able to find your default email address, put a suitable subject line
in that field and see if the ap sends the text correctly anyway.  Don't 
try

it with a lengthy or important missive.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM
Subject: A question about Draftpad


Hi All,

I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
body.

I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Kimber


On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:

The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
documents is Pages.
It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
unless you can use it with vision.

Richard


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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General



Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear
you
can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe

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Re: A question about Draftpad

[RDLAW]

where does she input her email address?
- Original Message - 
From: "Jane" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:01
Subject: Re: A question about Draftpad


You need to put the subject of the email on the first line.  Then hit 
enter twice and put the rest of the text unerneath.


Jane


On May 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:


Hi All,

I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
body.

I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Kimber


On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:

The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
documents is Pages.
It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
unless you can use it with vision.

Richard


 _

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Behalf

Of Joe
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General



Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear 
you
can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that 
can

synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file 
formats.

Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe

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Hanging with Friends

[Charlene Young]

Hello,
I have the free version of Hanging with Friends, but I also have the paid 
version now and would like to use the paid version instead.  Is there a way to 
log out of the free one so that i can use the paid one?  I tried to put my user 
name into the paid one but it tells me that this user name is already in use.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: typing on the phone

[chris hallsworth]

You can tell the application to send text to the clipboard so you can 
paste it elsewhere such as Safari.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 30/05/2012 00:12, jeremy wrote:

Just curious. Does this application work also for the browser, or just
texting and such. My issue isn't so much with texts, as I'm not a huge
texter, more so searching and entering information in forms in safari.
Thanks.
Take Care

On 5/29/2012 6:05 PM, Carol Pearson wrote:

;Hithere

I find it a good and useful app though don't get around to using it
too often. I do find the punctuation doesn't come naturally and that's
one main reason why I don't use it more.

Having been a Braillist for getting on for 60 years, it's also hard to
think in a different concept for writing and I'd therefore still
prefer to write with two hands in a normal way.

All this said, remember I do like the app very much and commend you on
your efforts to date.

--
Carol P
 Original Message 
From: EWTEch Accessibility
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Hi everybody,


we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies,
the developers of TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if
you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile
device.


For those who want to get more information about
TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille


Thank you




On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
 wrote:

Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just
as you
described - I liked not having to hunt for te next
letter. I did well
at immediately finding the next letter I wanted.
Unfortunately though,
I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more
often now than I
used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try
that when
I've more time.

Jeremiah



On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote:

Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the
screen, then we have to swap or change angle
dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when
touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. -
shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc.

But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an
interesting deviation in which case covering half the
kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other
taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message -
From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


One question for you split tappers, any tips for when
to switch the
duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos,
certain words,
etc where you just know you're tapper will become the
hunter? Just
having sent a couple texts with the split tap method,
that's the only
thing that seemed odd.

I've learned much from this typing discussion.
Initially, I loved the
touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has
gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I
remember it being when I got
my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just
be my
expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and
more accurately,
when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this
thread, I'm
trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.

Jeremiah Z. Rogers
Mobile: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com


On 5/19/12, Jane wrote:

I've found that typingwith both index fingers in
portrait work using touch typing works reallly well.
I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.

Jane


On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:


Ok, just trying this thumbs thing, so got the phone
sideways, so hand over
the one main speaker outlet; so couldn't hear it.
Moved hands a bit, now
doesn't hold very comfortably; but got a text donein
the end. Once you learn a thing one way, there needs
to be a darned good motivation to undo it
and learn it another.

RobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Holly"
To: "VIPhone"
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my
right index
finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs
while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have
used a home row on a computer since age nine, so
learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a
bluetooth keyboard
for longer typing needs.

Holly and Ajax

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Re: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, use the following link and it even gives directions that your 
grandma can follow. *smile*.


http://greenpois0n.com/2012/05/absinthe-2-0-has-arrived/

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
“You know, somebody actually complimented me on my driving today. They 
left a little note on the windscreen, it said 'Parking Fine.'” -  Tommy 
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On 5/29/2012 11:15 AM, jack wrote:

Hello,
I am unable to get the jailbreak 5.1.1 to download from the windows
link. I would appreciate a link where I can download the break.
Thanks much for your help.

-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: ViPhone Users List
Subject: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

I just saw this on Life Hacker.

I haven't tried it yet, but I probably will update my phone this weekend
if it proves to be accurate.

Note the link may wrap around.

http://lifehacker.com/5913285/ios-511-untethered-jailbreak-now-available?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_twitter&utm_source=lifehacker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow


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Re: A question about Draftpad

[Kimber Gardner]

Do you mean in the to field?

When I open draftpad and write something, there's
an action button that presents a menu that includes clear all text,
copy text, email, sms and maybe something else, I can't recall at the
moment. If I click the email option, I am presented with a to field, a
cc field and a message body.

I got the subject to go into the subject field of the email by doing
what Jane suggested and writing the subject followed by two returns
then the body of the email.

All in all, I would say it's a nice little editor and very accessible.

K
On 5/29/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> Let me suggest an experiment:  on the basis it might, or even ought to know
>
> or be able to find your default email address, put a suitable subject line
> in that field and see if the ap sends the text correctly anyway.  Don't try
>
> it with a lengthy or important missive.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM
> Subject: A question about Draftpad
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
> functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
> problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
> the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
> body.
>
> I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
> Kimber
>
>
> On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
>> The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
>> documents is Pages.
>> It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
>> unless you can use it with vision.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>   _
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Joe
>> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear
>> you
>> can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
>> synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
>> format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
>> reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
>> Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe
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Re: typing on the phone

[jeremy]

Just curious. Does this application work also for the browser, or just 
texting and such. My issue isn't so much with texts, as I'm not a huge 
texter, more so searching and entering information in forms in safari.

Thanks.
Take Care

On 5/29/2012 6:05 PM, Carol Pearson wrote:

;Hithere

I find it a good and useful app though don't get around to using it too often.  
I do find the punctuation doesn't come naturally and that's one main reason why 
I don't use it more.

Having been a Braillist for getting on for 60 years, it's also hard to think in 
a different concept for writing and I'd therefore still prefer to write with 
two hands in a normal way.

All this said, remember I do like the app very much and commend you on your 
efforts to date.

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 Original Message 
From: EWTEch Accessibility
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Hi everybody,


we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies,
the developers of TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if
you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile
device.


For those who want to get more information about
TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille


Thank you




On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
  wrote:

Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just
as you
described - I liked not having to hunt for te next
letter. I did well
at immediately finding the next letter I wanted.
Unfortunately though,
I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more
often now than I
used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try
that when
I've more time.

Jeremiah



On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:

Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the
screen, then we have to swap or change angle
dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when
touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. -
shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc.

But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an
interesting deviation in which case covering half the
kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other
taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message -
From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


One question for you split tappers, any tips for when
to switch the
duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos,
certain words,
etc where you just know you're tapper will become the
hunter? Just
having sent a couple texts with the split tap method,
that's the only
thing that seemed odd.

I've learned much from this typing discussion.
Initially, I loved the
touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has
gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I
remember it being when I got
my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just
be my
expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and
more accurately,
when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this
thread, I'm
trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.

Jeremiah Z. Rogers
Mobile: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com


On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:

I've found that typingwith both index fingers in
portrait work using touch typing works reallly well.
I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.

Jane


On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:


Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone
sideways,  so hand over
the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.
Moved hands a bit, now
doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein
the end.  Once you learn a thing one way, there needs
to be a darned good motivation to undo it
and learn it another.

RobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Holly"
To: "VIPhone"
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my
right index
finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs
while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have
used a home row on a computer since age nine, so
learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a
bluetooth keyboard
for longer typing needs.

Holly and Ajax

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Re: typing on the phone

[Carol Pearson]

;Hithere

I find it a good and useful app though don't get around to using it too often.  
I do find the punctuation doesn't come naturally and that's one main reason why 
I don't use it more.

Having been a Braillist for getting on for 60 years, it's also hard to think in 
a different concept for writing and I'd therefore still prefer to write with 
two hands in a normal way.

All this said, remember I do like the app very much and commend you on your 
efforts to date.

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 Original Message 
From: EWTEch Accessibility
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone

> Hi everybody,
> 
> 
> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies,
> the developers of TypeInBraille app. 
> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if
> you consider it as a good solution to type on your mobile
> device.  
> 
> 
> For those who want to get more information about
> TypeInBraille:
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille  
> 
> 
> Thank you
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
>  wrote: 
> 
> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just
> as you 
> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next
> letter. I did well 
> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted.
> Unfortunately though, 
> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more
> often now than I 
> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try
> that when 
> I've more time.
> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the
> > screen, then we have to swap or change angle
> > dramatically, and have to do a certain amount even when
> > touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. -
> > shift, return, More numbers/letter/other, etc. 
> >
> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an
> > interesting deviation in which case covering half the
> > kb each, the appropriate thumb hunts and the other
> > taps, and vicerVersa. - Original Message -
> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >
> >
> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when
> > to switch the 
> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos,
> > certain words, 
> > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the
> > hunter? Just 
> > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method,
> > that's the only 
> > thing that seemed odd.
> >
> > I've learned much from this typing discussion.
> > Initially, I loved the 
> > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has
> > gotten less responsive, even across hardware, than I
> > remember it being when I got 
> > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just
> > be my 
> > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and
> > more accurately, 
> > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this
> > thread, I'm 
> > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
> >
> > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> > Mobile: 704-996-5334
> > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in
> >> portrait work using touch typing works reallly well. 
> >> I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working. 
> >>
> >> Jane
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone
> >>> sideways,  so hand over
> >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it. 
> >>> Moved hands a bit, now
> >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein
> >>> the end.  Once you learn a thing one way, there needs
> >>> to be a darned good motivation to undo it
> >>> and learn it another.
> >>>
> >>> RobH.
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Holly" 
> >>> To: "VIPhone" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my
> >>> right index 
> >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs
> >>> while using a querty keyboard on an android. I have
> >>> used a home row on a computer since age nine, so
> >>> learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
> >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a
> >>> bluetooth keyboard  
> >>> for longer typing needs.
> >>>
> >>> Holly and Ajax
> >>>
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Re: Alva BC6 Series and iOS devices

[David Chittenden]

Hello,

You need to update your Alva to the latest firmware. 



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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 30/05/2012, at 5:09, Joel Zimba  wrote:

> perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with an Alva bc640,  I can't get the 
> braille keyboard to work.  The display is great, but the keyboard, not so 
> much.   If there is a work-around to this, I'd love to know.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/28/2012 11:26 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>> How well does this combination work for you using iOS 5.1.1? Any drop outs 
>> in connections at all? Any tips and tricks to be aware of? Thanks!
> 
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RE: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

[Jim NOseworthy]

Hello:

Log on to my server at:
ftp.compuconference.com

There, you will find both the Windows and the Mac versions of Absinthe
2.0.2.

Cheers.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jack
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

Hello,
I am unable to get the jailbreak 5.1.1 to download from the windows link.  I
would appreciate a link where I can download the break.
Thanks much for your help.

-Original Message-
From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: ViPhone Users List
Subject: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

I just saw this on Life Hacker.

I haven't tried it yet, but I probably will update my phone this weekend if
it proves to be accurate.

Note the link may wrap around.

http://lifehacker.com/5913285/ios-511-untethered-jailbreak-now-available?utm
_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_twitter&utm_source=lifehacker_twitter&utm_me
dium=socialflow

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Re: Ipad Gestures

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi 

You may want to enable containers in the rotor, I am not sure if it will help 
much but if you want to use gestures to move around the screen then this will 
at least expand your options. I can't remember if it is enabled by default. 
Whilst in your mail, use the rotor gesture and see if containers is an option. 
If it is then great, experiment with it. If not, go into your accessibility 
settings and into VO then go to the rotor settings and add containers. Oh by 
the way, containers lets you jump between the major sections of the screen with 
a single finger swipe down/up. 
Personally though I use a similar method as already described by the others. 
With the iPad, it is really worth some time in exploring exactly where on the 
screen each thing is and then just touch the screen there to move focus.

I will sometimes swipe between the move, delete and reply buttons in the mail 
app but otherwise I prefer to look for what I want by dragging. 

Hope this helps.

Garth. 
On 30/05/2012, at 5:11 AM, Peter Lane wrote:

> Hi Kerry,
> Since the iPad screen is a bit larger, it's easier for me to learn the layout 
> of the Email screen, locate the Email and then use the  2 finger swipe down 
> to read.  Then find where the Delete, Reply or Move buttons are by touching 
> the screen.  Moving around the mail screen is difficult with jestures. It's a 
> bit  faster with a BT keyboard, but only a little. Pete
> ent from my iPad
> 
> On May 29, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Kerryann Ifill  wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely.  the main 
>> diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading 
>> email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the 
>> bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to  move more 
>> fluidly from one area to the other?
>> 
>> Thanks fo rany suggestions
>> Regards
>> Kerry
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[Mac-cessibility News] New Facebook app makes accessing Facebook easier for VoiceOver, updated

[Maccessibility]

New Facebook app makes accessing Facebook easier for VoiceOver, updated

If you are a blind person, you understand the love/hate relationship with
Facebook.  Facebook likes to change their interface about monthly, and it gets
frustrating.  Active Information systems has developed an app called voice book
VO that helps with this.  It is a basic Facebook app for ios.  So far you can
only really read [...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2012/05/26/new-facebook-app-makes-accessing-facebook-easier-for-voiceover/

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Re: Ipad Gestures

[Peter Lane]

Hi Kerry,
Since the iPad screen is a bit larger, it's easier for me to learn the layout 
of the Email screen, locate the Email and then use the  2 finger swipe down to 
read.  Then find where the Delete, Reply or Move buttons are by touching the 
screen.  Moving around the mail screen is difficult with jestures. It's a bit  
faster with a BT keyboard, but only a little. Pete
ent from my iPad

On May 29, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Kerryann Ifill  wrote:

>> 
>> Hi list,
> 
> I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely.  the main 
> diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading 
> email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the 
> bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to  move more 
> fluidly from one area to the other?
> 
> Thanks fo rany suggestions
> Regards
> Kerry
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Re: Alva BC6 Series and iOS devices

[chris hallsworth]

Hello all from what I have read you need the Braille audio otherwise 
known as feature pack installed and working.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 18:09, Joel Zimba wrote:

perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with an Alva bc640, I can't get
the braille keyboard to work. The display is great, but the keyboard,
not so much. If there is a work-around to this, I'd love to know.

Joel



On 5/28/2012 11:26 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

How well does this combination work for you using iOS 5.1.1? Any drop
outs in connections at all? Any tips and tricks to be aware of? Thanks!




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Re: A question about Draftpad

[Rob Harris]

Yo can tell how good the rest of it is then, new or alternative editors are 
always worth learning about and we can't try them all.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM
Subject: A question about Draftpad


Hi All,

I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
body.

I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Kimber


On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
> The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
> documents is Pages.
> It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
> unless you can use it with vision.
>
> Richard
>
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joe
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General
>
>
>
> Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear 
> you
> can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
> synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
> format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
> reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
> Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe
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Re: A question about Draftpad

[Rob Harris]

Let me suggest an experiment:  on the basis it might, or even ought to know 
or be able to find your default email address, put a suitable subject line 
in that field and see if the ap sends the text correctly anyway.  Don't try 
it with a lengthy or important missive.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:01 PM
Subject: A question about Draftpad


Hi All,

I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
body.

I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Kimber


On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
> The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
> documents is Pages.
> It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
> unless you can use it with vision.
>
> Richard
>
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joe
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General
>
>
>
> Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear 
> you
> can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
> synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
> format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
> reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
> Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe
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RE: TextFree seems to be a good app

[Godwin Adoyi]

Hi,
I am in Ghana, West Africa. I'm looking for an accessible app that I can use
to make international calls, can I use textfree?
Which is the best app?
Thanks,
Godwin 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:55 AM
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Subject: RE: TextFree seems to be a good app

Is this phone number a DID number you could use with a SIP client?--Joe 

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Of James Mannion
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: TextFree seems to be a good app

I just thought I'd share my experience so far with TextFree  here. I had
used it a few years ago and let it expire, but I had reason to go back to it
yesterday actually because of texting a lot with someone on an IPod touch
that doesn't have and doesn't seem to want to upgrade to IOS 5.x with
IMessage in it. So this app is nicely accessible and has the added benefits
of being able to make and receive calls and voicemail now. One nice benefit
is you can get what if you want it to can be a completely free additional
local phone number. You could pick another area code too if you wanted. That
can give a number to put in things or give out where you would prefer not to
give your actual cell number and if things go for any reason how you don't
want them to with that number, just let it expire. That's just a thought and
there are other ways to do that as well though.  The HD quality calling is
quite nice too. The texting is always free and the calling gives you like 20
minutes a month outgoing and all incoming free. To buy a hundred minutes
more is $1.99. To get rid of the ads for a year is $5.00. What it didn't
have before when I used it a few years ago was the way to buy more minutes.
Definitely useful to have the app.

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RE: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

[Mike Cassidy]

Hi Chris and listers,

That's a good point; I only held numbers on my Nokia so there was no
problem.

Cheers,

Mike

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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 29 May 2012 03:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

The only problem with this method is that your SIM card may not hold all of
your contacts, all of the information in each contact or all of the
formatting information contained in your contacts. This is what I did though
to get started right away.

I'm now looking at getting all of the information in my contacts on my E71X
over to my iPhone. Another thing that seems to work is to export all of your
contacts on your Nokia phone to VCF files. You can then mail these VCF files
to yourself as attachments and then open them up on your iPhone. You'll then
have the choice to create new contacts or add the information to existing
contacts. This may still be more labor intensive than some other options,
but it appears to work and be an option.

On 28/05/12 14:04, Mike Cassidy wrote:
> Hi listers,
> 
>  
> 
> Another way might be to copy your contacts from your Nokia to the SIM 
> card, then import them into the iPhone in Settings on the iPhone. That 
> worked for me.
> 
>  
> 
> Hth,
> 
>  
> 
> Mike
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Judy
> *Sent:* 27 May 2012 21:14
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* ; 
> *Subject:* Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?
> 
>  
> 
> Hello. Go into iTunes and check info. Your contacts from your address 
> book will then be synced with your iPhone. I did this in outlook 
> express so I know it works.
> Thanks.
> Judy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 27, 2012, at 4:29 AM, "goshawk on horseback"
>  > wrote:
> 
> hello all,
> 
> does anyone know of a quick and easy way of transferring contacts
> from my nokia N96 to an iPhone 4S?
> 
> at a guess, I have about 170 contacts to transfer across.
> 
>  
> 
> Simon
> 
>  
> 
>  
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Re: podcast URL voicebrief

[David Goodwin]

Traci,

We have one on the AppleVis website. Here's the link:

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/sit-back-and-let-voice-brief-tell-you-about-your-latest-emails-news-weather

Regards

David

On 29/05/2012 18:28, Traci wrote:

Does anyone have the URL for the podcast for voice brief?

I've googled and looked on Vision Australia's website, with no success.

I'm quite interested in learning more.

Thanks,
Traci
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podcast URL voicebrief

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Does anyone have the URL for the podcast for voice brief? 

I've googled and looked on Vision Australia's website, with no success.

I'm quite interested in learning more. 

Thanks,
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RE: Apps to learn Braille was Re: typing on the phone

[Richard Turner]

There is one that will help you memorize the code, but it can't test you on
it, nor does it give the usage rules, of which there are many.
Braille Reference, $0.99 has the American braille code plus computer
braille.

You should sign up for Hadley if you don't have a local option for learning
braille tactilely.

Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apps to learn Braille was Re: typing on the phone

Hello all is there an app, free or paid, that can sort of teach Braille and
perhaps test you on it? Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 12:44, Garth Humphreys wrote:
> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I
was young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage
boys are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but
remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but
aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least
starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
>
> Garth
> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>
>> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille
codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well.
Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of
course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>>
>>
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>
>> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
of
>>> TypeInBraille app.
>>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
as
>>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>>>
>>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah
Rogers>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
 described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
 at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
 I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
 used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
 I've more time.

 Jeremiah


 On 5/21/12, Rob Harris   wrote:
> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
 have
> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
 even
> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
 return,
> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>
> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
thumb
> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> thing that seemed odd.
>
> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>
> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> Mobile: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 5/19/12, Jane   wrote:
>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
 touch
>> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
hand
>>> over
>>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
bit,
>>> now
>>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
 you
>>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
 undo
>>> it
>>> and learn it another.
>>>
>>> RobH.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Holly"
>>> To: "VIPhone"
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012

Re: Alva BC6 Series and iOS devices

[Joel Zimba]

perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with an Alva bc640,  I can't get 
the braille keyboard to work.  The display is great, but the keyboard, 
not so much.   If there is a work-around to this, I'd love to know.


Joel



On 5/28/2012 11:26 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
How well does this combination work for you using iOS 5.1.1? Any drop 
outs in connections at all? Any tips and tricks to be aware of? Thanks!


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Re: A question about Draftpad

[Jane]

You need to put the subject of the email on the first line.  Then hit enter 
twice and put the rest of the text unerneath.

Jane


On May 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
> functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
> problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
> the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
> body.
> 
> I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kimber
> 
> 
> On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
>> The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
>> documents is Pages.
>> It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
>> unless you can use it with vision.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>  _
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Joe
>> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you
>> can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
>> synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
>> format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
>> reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
>> Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe
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A question about Draftpad

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi All,

I recently downloaded a text editing app called Draftpad. One of the
functions is the ability to email what you've written to yourself. The
problem is when I choose the email option and enter my email address,
the text ends up in the subject line of the email rather than in the
body.

I can't figure out what I'm missing. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Kimber


On 5/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
> The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
> documents is Pages.
> It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
> unless you can use it with vision.
>
> Richard
>
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joe
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General
>
>
>
> Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you
> can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
> synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
> format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
> reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
> Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe
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Re: Apps to learn Braille was Re: typing on the phone

[Marianne Denning]

Chris, you would need a way to learn to read it tactually which would
require a braille display.  I also find when I use any type of
electronic braille format there are problems with the rules of
contracted braille.  Braille is easy when you learn braille letter for
print letter.  It becomes more challenging when you learn the
contractions and the rules related to when you can use any
contraction.  There are 189 contractions in American Braille.

On 5/29/12, chris hallsworth  wrote:
> Hello all is there an app, free or paid, that can sort of teach Braille
> and perhaps test you on it? Thanks!
>
>
> Christopher Hallsworth
>
> On 29/05/2012 12:44, Garth Humphreys wrote:
>> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I
>> was young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage
>> boys are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons
>> but remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail
>> but aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at
>> least starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
>>
>> Garth
>> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>>
>>> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille
>>> codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well.
>>> Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of
>>> course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>
>>> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
 of
 TypeInBraille app.
 We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
 as
 a good solution to type on your mobile device.

 For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
 http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille

 Thank you


 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah
 Rogers wrote:

> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> I've more time.
>
> Jeremiah
>
>
> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris   wrote:
>> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then
>> we
> have
>> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> even
>> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> return,
>> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>>
>> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
>> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
>> thumb
>> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>>
>>
>> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
>> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
>> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
>> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
>> thing that seemed odd.
>>
>> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
>> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
>> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
>> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
>> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more
>> accurately,
>> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
>> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>>
>> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>> Mobile: 704-996-5334
>> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/12, Jane   wrote:
>>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
> touch
>>> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>>>
>>> Jane
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>>>
 Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
 hand
 over
 the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
 bit,
 now
 doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.
 Once
> you
 learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation
 to
> undo
 it
 and learn it another.

 R

Re: Ipad Gestures

[Rob Harris]

Well, I have mine in landscape, I use both thumbs and slide left thunb down 
the message list, use the right thumb to do a split tap on one of them, then 
use the right thumb alone in the middle of the right pane where the body of 
the current message is and read it like that until I've had enough, then 
revert to left thumb down the message list again and so on.
The top-left corner hold the bak button if you want to go to look at other 
accounts or mail folders.

Hth, RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kerryann Ifill" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Ipad Gestures


>
> Hi list,

I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely.  the main 
diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading 
email, the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the 
bottom or right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to  move more 
fluidly from one area to the other?

Thanks fo rany suggestions
Regards
Kerry

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Ipad Gestures

[Kerryann Ifill]

> 
> Hi list,

I got an Ipad2 a couple weeks ago and I'm enjoying it immensely.  the main 
diffiulty i'm still overcoming is in terms of the gestures. Wen reading email, 
the list of messages is listed and then the current email is on the bottom or 
right. Does anyone have suggestions on gestures to  move more fluidly from one 
area to the other?

Thanks fo rany suggestions
Regards
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RE: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General

[Richard Turner]

The app I think you are talking about is not accessible.
The only marginally accessible app that will allow you to edit Word
documents is Pages.
It is only marginally accessible in my experience.  Not worth the $9.99
unless you can use it with vision.
 
Richard
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 2 Free & Text Editors in General



Hi, forgive me if I've misspelled the name of this app. It would appear you
can edit Word documents. Is that true? I'm looking for something that can
synchronize with Dropbox, and while I've found several editors for text
format, I want to find something that will work with Doc and DocX since
reading by paragraph is smoother with VoiceOver using those file formats.
Thanks for any recommendations you can pass along.--Joe

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Apps to learn Braille was Re: typing on the phone

[chris hallsworth]

Hello all is there an app, free or paid, that can sort of teach Braille 
and perhaps test you on it? Thanks!



Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 12:44, Garth Humphreys wrote:

Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was 
young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys are 
often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but remember 
very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but aren't sure 
where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least starting to 
learn the formations of letters with an app like this.

Garth
On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:


This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes 
were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support for 
grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. Otherwise I 
love the app and use it indispensably.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:

Hi everybody,

we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
a good solution to type on your mobile device.

For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille

Thank you


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
wrote:



Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
I've more time.

Jeremiah


On 5/21/12, Rob Harris   wrote:

Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we

have

to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount

even

when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,

return,

More numbers/letter/other, etc.

But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
- Original Message -
From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
thing that seemed odd.

I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.

Jeremiah Z. Rogers
Mobile: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com


On 5/19/12, Jane   wrote:

I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using

touch

typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.

Jane


On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:


Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so hand
over
the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a bit,
now
doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once

you

learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to

undo

it
and learn it another.

RobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Holly"
To: "VIPhone"
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
for longer typing needs.

Holly and Ajax

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Re: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

[jack]

   Hello,
I am unable to get the jailbreak 5.1.1 to download from the windows link.  I 
would appreciate a link where I can download the break.

Thanks much for your help.

-Original Message- 
From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: ViPhone Users List
Subject: iOS 5.1.1 Untethered Jailbreak Now Available

I just saw this on Life Hacker.

I haven't tried it yet, but I probably will update my phone this weekend
if it proves to be accurate.

Note the link may wrap around.

http://lifehacker.com/5913285/ios-511-untethered-jailbreak-now-available?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_twitter&utm_source=lifehacker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

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Re: ,Facebook app

[Peter Lane]

Hello Ed and Fellow Listers,
I want to thank you all for your patience and suggestions to get me started on 
FB via the use of Voicebook.  I feel comfortable  now but see that Voicebook is 
very limited in terms of the full Facebook experience.  I am hoping the 
Voicebook developers can expand their app to broaden its scope very soon.  In 
the meantime, I think I'll  move onto Facely HD.  The regular Facebook app is 
just too confusing to me.  I suspect that much of my problem is that I'm just 
not familiar with the various FB terms, such as Messages, Status, 
Notifications,etc  Is there a Podcast that you might recommend to help me 
better understand which is which? 
 Pete
Sent from my iPad

On May 27, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:

> Hey Peter, I was on the beta team for VoiceBook, and it is a very straight 
> forward app if all you want to do is read statuses, like, comment, and read 
> comments on your friends statuses. It also lets you post a status really 
> easily. To get you started when you get logged-in for the first time, 
> VoiceBook will take alittle while to load, but as soon as it does it will 
> read the first status out, then to go to a new status you will want to flick 
> one finger down, if this doesn't work make sure that your focus is reading 
> the status. If you want to comment or like that status double tap on the 
> status and it will open a menu and there are several options here the options 
> are pretty easy to figure out. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
> 
> Ed
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RE: ICatcher verses DownCast.

[Joe]

I downloaded Downcast last night and am beyond satisfied. It found every
podcast show I threw at it, which is great because I thought I'd have to sit
there and manually enter the URLS for the shows I follow. The sound effects
seem like a small thing, but it's an added bonus to keep tabs on different
tasks.--Joe

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ICatcher verses DownCast.

 

Both work well.  Downcast is slightly more complex but has more options,
e.g., you can import MP3's, and there's more choice with speed control.

 

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 Original Message 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 6:32 PM
Subject: ICatcher verses DownCast.

> Hi Folks:
> 
> Any thoughts on which of these animals works best with
> accessibility?  I would try them both but both are payed
> apps.  
> 
> Thanks all over the place.
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Re: typing on the phone

[Kimberly]

Hmm i may have to  give it a try especially  given how slow I  am with the 
touch typing. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On May 29, 2012, at 7:13 AM, chris hallsworth  wrote:

> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes 
> were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support 
> for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. 
> Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> 
>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
>> TypeInBraille app.
>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>> 
>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
>>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
>>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
>>> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
>>> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
>>> I've more time.
>>> 
>>> Jeremiah
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris wrote:
 Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
>>> have
 to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
>>> even
 when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
>>> return,
 More numbers/letter/other, etc.
 
 But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
 deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
 hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
 To:
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: typing on the phone
 
 
 One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
 duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
 etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
 having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
 thing that seemed odd.
 
 I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
 touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
 responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
 my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
 expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
 when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
 trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
 
 Jeremiah Z. Rogers
 Mobile: 704-996-5334
 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
 
 
 On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
>>> touch
> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
> 
>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so hand
>> over
>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a bit,
>> now
>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
>>> you
>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
>>> undo
>> it
>> and learn it another.
>> 
>> RobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Holly"
>> To: "VIPhone"
>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> 
>> 
>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
>> for longer typing needs.
>> 
>> Holly and Ajax
>> 
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Re: typing on the phone

[Kimberly]

Seems like there would be easier ways to learn Braille  than by forming each 
letter one row at a time. It may be worth a try though. Good luck. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On May 29, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was 
> young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys 
> are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but 
> remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but 
> aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least 
> starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
> 
> Garth
> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
> 
>> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes 
>> were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support 
>> for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. 
>> Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> 
>> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>> 
>>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
>>> TypeInBraille app.
>>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
>>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>>> 
>>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
 described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
 at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
 I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
 used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
 I've more time.
 
 Jeremiah
 
 
 On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
 have
> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
 even
> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
 return,
> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> 
> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> 
> 
> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> thing that seemed odd.
> 
> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
> 
> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> Mobile: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On 5/19/12, Jane wrote:
>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
 touch
>> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so hand
>>> over
>>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a bit,
>>> now
>>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
 you
>>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
 undo
>>> it
>>> and learn it another.
>>> 
>>> RobH.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Holly"
>>> To: "VIPhone"
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
>>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
>>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
>>> for longer typ

Braille - was Re: typing on the phone

[Rob Harris]

True!...  I could see pretty well when at blind school, so didn't really get 
on with touch reading, so didn't get past reading my bank statement. It was 
important and enough; now it's all phone and online of course.

But remember it well enough to rattle away merrily with this app and get 
things done with a degree of efficiency I didn't have before.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marianne Denning" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Garth, learning to tactually read braille is the critical piece and
this won't do that.  I have been a rehabilitation teacher and am
currently a teacher of students who are visually impaired.  If you
will commit the time to learn braille you will be pleased even if you
use it on a limited basis.  You may or may not read novels using
braille but there are many other daily uses of braille.

On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I 
> was
> young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage 
> boys
> are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but
> remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but
> aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least
> starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
>
> Garth
> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>
>> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille
>> codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well.
>> Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of
>> course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>>
>>
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>
>> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
>>> of
>>> TypeInBraille app.
>>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
>>> as
>>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>>>
>>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah
>>> Rogers>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
 described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
 at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
 I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
 used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
 I've more time.

 Jeremiah


 On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
 have
> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
 even
> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
 return,
> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>
> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
> thumb
> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> thing that seemed odd.
>
> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>
> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> Mobile: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
 touch
>> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
>>> hand
>>> over
>>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
>>> bit,
>>> now
>>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
 you
>>> learn a thing one way, there n

Re: typing on the phone

[Rob Harris]

Well, it does have the basic instructions, which includes all the symbols to 
make the letters, and the few odd punctuation marks enough to do the 
commonest tasks like urls, email addresses and basic messages. I think all 
that is online too in fact.

Those that started this, tended to like it. It's not that many weeks ago it 
was all the rage on here!

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Garth Humphreys" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was 
young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys 
are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but 
remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but 
aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least 
starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.

Garth
On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:

> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille 
> codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. 
> Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of 
> course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>
>
> Christopher Hallsworth
>
> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers 
>> of
>> TypeInBraille app.
>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it 
>> as
>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>>
>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah 
>> Rogers>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
>>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
>>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
>>> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
>>> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
>>> I've more time.
>>>
>>> Jeremiah
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
 Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
>>> have
 to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
>>> even
 when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
>>> return,
 More numbers/letter/other, etc.

 But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
 deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate 
 thumb
 hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
 To:
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: typing on the phone


 One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
 duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
 etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
 having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
 thing that seemed odd.

 I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
 touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
 responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
 my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
 expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
 when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
 trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.

 Jeremiah Z. Rogers
 Mobile: 704-996-5334
 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com


 On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
>>> touch
> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>
> Jane
>
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>
>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so 
>> hand
>> over
>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a 
>> bit,
>> now
>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
>>> you
>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
>>> undo
>> it
>> and learn it another.
>>
>> RobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Holly"
>> To: "VIPhone"
>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>>
>>
>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
>> since age nine, so lea

Re: typing on the phone

[Marianne Denning]

I don't think it would be detrimental but I question if it would be
helpful.  Let me know how it goes if you decide to try it.

On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
> Yep, I understand that it won't help with learning to read brail other then
> to help me remember the basic formations of the letters etc, it really does
> come down to the investment of time though. I guess a better question is, do
> you think the use of an app like this would be detrimental? I don't really
> see how it would be and may give me the impetus to commit some real time.
> On 29/05/2012, at 10:01 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
>
>> Garth, learning to tactually read braille is the critical piece and
>> this won't do that.  I have been a rehabilitation teacher and am
>> currently a teacher of students who are visually impaired.  If you
>> will commit the time to learn braille you will be pleased even if you
>> use it on a limited basis.  You may or may not read novels using
>> braille but there are many other daily uses of braille.
>>
>> On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
>>> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I
>>> was
>>> young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage
>>> boys
>>> are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but
>>> remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but
>>> aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at
>>> least
>>> starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
>>>
>>> Garth
>>> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>>>
 This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille
 codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as
 well.
 Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of
 course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the
> developers
> of
> TypeInBraille app.
> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider
> it
> as
> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>
> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah
> Rogers> wrote:
>
>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately
>> though,
>> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than
>> I
>> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
>> I've more time.
>>
>> Jeremiah
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
>>> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then
>>> we
>> have
>>> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain
>>> amount
>> even
>>> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
>> return,
>>> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>>>
>>> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
>>> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
>>> thumb
>>> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>>>
>>>
>>> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
>>> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
>>> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
>>> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the
>>> only
>>> thing that seemed odd.
>>>
>>> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved
>>> the
>>> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
>>> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I
>>> got
>>> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
>>> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more
>>> accurately,
>>> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
>>> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>>>
>>> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>>> Mobile: 704-996-5334
>>> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
 I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work
 using
>> touch
 typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>>

Re: typing on the phone

[Garth Humphreys]

Yep, I understand that it won't help with learning to read brail other then to 
help me remember the basic formations of the letters etc, it really does come 
down to the investment of time though. I guess a better question is, do you 
think the use of an app like this would be detrimental? I don't really see how 
it would be and may give me the impetus to commit some real time.  
On 29/05/2012, at 10:01 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:

> Garth, learning to tactually read braille is the critical piece and
> this won't do that.  I have been a rehabilitation teacher and am
> currently a teacher of students who are visually impaired.  If you
> will commit the time to learn braille you will be pleased even if you
> use it on a limited basis.  You may or may not read novels using
> braille but there are many other daily uses of braille.
> 
> On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
>> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was
>> young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys
>> are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but
>> remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but
>> aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least
>> starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
>> 
>> Garth
>> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>> 
>>> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille
>>> codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well.
>>> Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of
>>> course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> 
>>> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
 of
 TypeInBraille app.
 We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
 as
 a good solution to type on your mobile device.
 
 For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
 http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
 
 Thank you
 
 
 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah
 Rogers wrote:
 
> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> I've more time.
> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> 
> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
>> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
> have
>> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> even
>> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> return,
>> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>> 
>> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
>> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
>> thumb
>> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> 
>> 
>> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
>> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
>> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
>> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
>> thing that seemed odd.
>> 
>> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
>> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
>> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
>> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
>> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
>> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
>> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>> 
>> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>> Mobile: 704-996-5334
>> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
>>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
> touch
>>> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>>> 
 Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
 hand
 over
 the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
 bit,
 now
 doesn't hold very comfortably;  bu

Re: TextFree seems to be a good app

[chris hallsworth]

Hello all is textfree available in the UK? My guess is no because I took 
a look, but if you could have a look as well and tell me exactly what it 
is and or who makes it this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!



Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 00:40, James Mannion wrote:

I just thought I'd share my experience so far with TextFree  here. I
had used it a few years ago and let it expire, but I had reason to go
back to it yesterday actually because of texting a lot with someone on
an IPod touch that doesn't have and doesn't seem to want to upgrade to
IOS 5.x with IMessage in it. So this app is nicely accessible and has
the added benefits of being able to make and receive calls and
voicemail now. One nice benefit is you can get what if you want it to
can be a completely free additional local phone number. You could pick
another area code too if you wanted. That can give a number to put in
things or give out where you would prefer not to give your actual cell
number and if things go for any reason how you don't want them to with
that number, just let it expire. That's just a thought and there are
other ways to do that as well though.  The HD quality calling is quite
nice too. The texting is always free and the calling gives you like 20
minutes a month outgoing and all incoming free. To buy a hundred
minutes more is $1.99. To get rid of the ads for a year is $5.00. What
it didn't have before when I used it a few years ago was the way to
buy more minutes. Definitely useful to have the app.



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Re: TextFree seems to be a good app

[chris hallsworth]

Wow sounds good! Been looking for alternatives. I have Whatsapp 
Messenger but doesn't allow calling. I tried another one but frankly it 
wasn't accessible once I completed sign up. So will give text free a 
shot. I also know of people who for example have an iPhone 3GS and so 
does not have Facetime. Ok I have 600 any UK network minutes a month but 
the idea of HD quality calls sound amazing. Again will give this a shot.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 00:40, James Mannion wrote:

I just thought I'd share my experience so far with TextFree  here. I
had used it a few years ago and let it expire, but I had reason to go
back to it yesterday actually because of texting a lot with someone on
an IPod touch that doesn't have and doesn't seem to want to upgrade to
IOS 5.x with IMessage in it. So this app is nicely accessible and has
the added benefits of being able to make and receive calls and
voicemail now. One nice benefit is you can get what if you want it to
can be a completely free additional local phone number. You could pick
another area code too if you wanted. That can give a number to put in
things or give out where you would prefer not to give your actual cell
number and if things go for any reason how you don't want them to with
that number, just let it expire. That's just a thought and there are
other ways to do that as well though.  The HD quality calling is quite
nice too. The texting is always free and the calling gives you like 20
minutes a month outgoing and all incoming free. To buy a hundred
minutes more is $1.99. To get rid of the ads for a year is $5.00. What
it didn't have before when I used it a few years ago was the way to
buy more minutes. Definitely useful to have the app.



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Re: typing on the phone

[Marianne Denning]

Garth, learning to tactually read braille is the critical piece and
this won't do that.  I have been a rehabilitation teacher and am
currently a teacher of students who are visually impaired.  If you
will commit the time to learn braille you will be pleased even if you
use it on a limited basis.  You may or may not read novels using
braille but there are many other daily uses of braille.

On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
> Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was
> young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys
> are often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but
> remember very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but
> aren't sure where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least
> starting to learn the formations of letters with an app like this.
>
> Garth
> On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>
>> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille
>> codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well.
>> Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of
>> course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
>>
>>
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>
>> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
>>> of
>>> TypeInBraille app.
>>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
>>> as
>>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>>>
>>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah
>>> Rogers>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
 described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
 at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
 I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
 used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
 I've more time.

 Jeremiah


 On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
 have
> to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
 even
> when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
 return,
> More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>
> But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
> thumb
> hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> thing that seemed odd.
>
> I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>
> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> Mobile: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
>> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
 touch
>> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
>>> hand
>>> over
>>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
>>> bit,
>>> now
>>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
 you
>>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
 undo
>>> it
>>> and learn it another.
>>>
>>> RobH.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Holly"
>>> To: "VIPhone"
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>>>
>>>
>>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home

Re: typing on the phone

[Garth Humphreys]

Okay, I am one of those stupid blind people who had enough sight when I was 
young to think I wouldn't need to learn brail. What can I say, teenage boys are 
often stupid. Anyway I was given a smattering of brail lessons but remember 
very little. I have been thinking of learning to read brail but aren't sure 
where I'd find the time. What are peoples thoughts to at least starting to 
learn the formations of letters with an app like this.

Garth
On 29/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:

> This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille codes 
> were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as well. Support 
> for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less typing of course. 
> Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> 
>> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
>> TypeInBraille app.
>> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
>> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>> 
>> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
>> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
>>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
>>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
>>> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
>>> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
>>> I've more time.
>>> 
>>> Jeremiah
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
 Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
>>> have
 to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
>>> even
 when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
>>> return,
 More numbers/letter/other, etc.
 
 But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
 deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
 hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
 To:
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: typing on the phone
 
 
 One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
 duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
 etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
 having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
 thing that seemed odd.
 
 I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
 touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
 responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
 my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
 expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
 when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
 trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
 
 Jeremiah Z. Rogers
 Mobile: 704-996-5334
 Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
 
 
 On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
>>> touch
> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
> 
>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so hand
>> over
>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a bit,
>> now
>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
>>> you
>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
>>> undo
>> it
>> and learn it another.
>> 
>> RobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Holly"
>> To: "VIPhone"
>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> 
>> 
>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
>> for longer typing needs.
>> 
>> Holly and Ajax
>> 
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Re: Accessible checkbook program and iPhone app

[RDLAW]

thanks! I found that when I switched the view to menu rather than menu chart 
more buttons were labled. I have yet to figure out how to lable buttons.  b
- Original Message - 
From: "Brett" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 04:10
Subject: Re: Accessible checkbook program and iPhone app


Yes they are, they do have some extraneous text. Such as "settings 42" 
etc. you should be able to make sense of them. You can always label them.


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 27/05/2012, at 6:41 PM, RDLAW  wrote:

in the lite version there are a bunch of buttons across the bottom that 
are not labled. Are these labled in the pro version?

- Original Message - From: "Brett" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 16:00
Subject: Re: Accessible checkbook program and iPhone app



Hi,

You need to open the Accounts screen, then at the bottom of that screen, 
there are buttons labeled "Green download" and "green WiFi"Both options 
will let you import your bank transactions.


For further information see the user guide found under settings in the 
app, or download it from their web site.


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 25/05/2012, at 2:26 PM, RDLAW  wrote:

Where did you find that feature brett? I didn't see it in the list of 
features in either the lite version or the paid version. How is it 
listed?
- Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 06:23
Subject: Re: Accessible checkbook program and iPhone app


Hey, that sounds good. I've been looking for an app which will let you 
import bank transactions. That is very cool. I'll have to check it 
out.


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On 5/23/2012 8:02 AM, Brett wrote:
My favorite, after trying several is home budget. It does recurring 
transactions etc, it even let's you import your transactions that you 
download from your bank.


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 23/05/2012, at 10:27 AM, RDLAW  wrote:

there is a good one with the same features and a lot cheaper called, 
Balance.
- Original Message - From: "Paul 
Henrichsen"

To: "Iphone UsersGroup"
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:33
Subject: Accessible checkbook program and iPhone app


Hi. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned on this list before and 
i invite you to crosspost this to any other lists you might think 
appropriate.
The clearcheckbook web site and iPhone app is very accessible. You 
can enter transactions and can even see a running balance if you 
have their premium service for $42 per year.
There are lots of options including setting recurring transactions 
and reminders and running reports.
This is quite a nice program for those of us who need an accessible 
checkbook program and the iPhone app just makes it better.


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Re: audable books not deleting

[RDLAW]

audable books not playingthe audible faq's state that I should be able to swipe 
from left to right on a book title in order to get a delete button to appear. 
When I swipe left to right it only takes me to the next book. What am I doing 
wrong in my swiping? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: christopher huby 
  To: 'VIPhone' 
  Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 03:54
  Subject: audable books not playing


  Good Morning All,

  I wonder if some one could help me.

  I have downloaded several audio books using the app store with apple, which 
are from audable.

  When I had downloaded them and tried to play them nothing happened.

  Please could some one tell me of a resolusion or what I need to do to get 
these books playing.

  If someone could help me I would be most grateful.

  Regards



  Christopher Huby

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Re: typing on the phone

[chris hallsworth]

This is a very nice app, however it would be nice if multiple Braille 
codes were supported, such as American and UK English, maybe UEB as 
well. Support for grade 2 would help significantly as it means less 
typing of course. Otherwise I love the app and use it indispensably.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 29/05/2012 09:37, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:

Hi everybody,

we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
a good solution to type on your mobile device.

For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille

Thank you


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
wrote:



Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
I've more time.

Jeremiah


On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:

Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we

have

to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount

even

when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,

return,

More numbers/letter/other, etc.

But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
- Original Message -
From: "Jeremiah Rogers"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
thing that seemed odd.

I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.

Jeremiah Z. Rogers
Mobile: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com


On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:

I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using

touch

typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.

Jane


On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:


Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so hand
over
the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a bit,
now
doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once

you

learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to

undo

it
and learn it another.

RobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Holly"
To: "VIPhone"
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
for longer typing needs.

Holly and Ajax

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Re: typing on the phone

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, I think the idea sounds good. I haven't purchased this app as yet 
because I have an iPhone 4S and usually do my typing via dictation, but 
I can see where this may come in handy in areas where you don't want to 
speak what you type. I'll check out the site and see what else there is 
to learn about the app. Thanks for your efforts.


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On 5/29/2012 4:37 AM, EWTEch Accessibility wrote:

Hi everybody,

we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
of TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
as a good solution to type on your mobile device.

For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille

Thank you


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
mailto:jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
I've more time.

Jeremiah


On 5/21/12, Rob Harris mailto:bobs...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
 > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen,
then we have
 > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain
amount even
 > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. -
shift, return,
 > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
 >
 > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
 > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the
appropriate thumb
 > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" mailto:jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com>>
 > To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
 > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
 >
 >
 > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
 > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
 > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
 > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
 > thing that seemed odd.
 >
 > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
 > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
 > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
 > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
 > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more
accurately,
 > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
 > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
 >
 > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
 > Mobile: 704-996-5334 
 > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com 
 >
 >
 > On 5/19/12, Jane mailto:juanitatig...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work
using touch
 >> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
 >>
 >> Jane
 >>
 >>
 >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
 >>
 >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,
  so hand
 >>> over
 >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved
hands a bit,
 >>> now
 >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.
  Once you
 >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good
motivation to undo
 >>> it
 >>> and learn it another.
 >>>
 >>> RobH.
 >>> - Original Message -
 >>> From: "Holly" mailto:thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com>>
 >>> To: "VIPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
 >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
 >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
 >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
 >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was
not too
 >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
 >>> for longer typing needs.
 >>>
 >>> Holly and Ajax
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Re: typing on the phone

[EWTEch Accessibility]

Thank you for the information.
We've just join the list.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:

> You might want to join this list too - : "Accessible iOS"
>  - as thisis where I first heard of it and I think the
> skill level and tech savvi is higher; should make  for useful feedback.
>
> Ok, a good number of those are here too;  but not all, so worth a try.
>
> Thanks, RobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> Thank you Rob,
> we appreciate your good feedback and we hope that also someone else could
> feel comfortable using TypeInBraille.
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Rob Harris 
> wrote:
>
> > "Training" is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app,
> > but
> > practice is certainly the key.  It comes quite naturally to a previous or
> > current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back
> > and
> > had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back.
> >
> > RobH, on a xp pc at the moment.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > thank you for your appreciation.
> > We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as
> > Rob said.
> >
> > Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a
> > labor-intensive
> > way of
> > inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much
> faster
> > than using the traditional keyboard or any other app.
> > On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user,
> > can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the
> > TypeInBraille keyboard.  The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you
> at
> > 5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with
> > the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter
> > of practice.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what  is necessary.  I'd like
> > all
> > > editors to have that 3 mode  system and they'd all be good, but they
> > > haven't.  suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused
> > > between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the
> > > menu
> > > evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I
> > missed
> > > it!
> > >
> > > Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in
> > > the
> > > normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going
> > > back
> > > directly and swiping back to the top...   gets irritating, but just
> > > remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so
> we
> > > can
> > > skip that issue. But the scrub would help.
> > >
> > > So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure
> > > that
> > > can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means
> of
> > > changing mode.
> > >
> > > But still love it for the efficiency,   and it is you know;  and gets
> > > things
> > > done with much less groping about.
> > >
> > > Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even.
> > >
> > > Many thanks, and it is appreciated.
> > >
> > > RobH.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
> > of
> > > TypeInBraille app.
> > > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider
> it
> > > as
> > > a good solution to type on your mobile device.
> > >
> > > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> > > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers <
> > > jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> > > > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> > > > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately
> though,
> > > > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than
> I
> > > > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> > > > I've more time.
> > > >
> > > > Jeremiah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > > > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain
> > > > > amount
> > > > even
> > > > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> > > > return,
> > > > > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > But a recent t

Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

[goshawk on horseback]

have already got my contacts from my N96 on there, have just got to get my 
Iphone to work properly now, and hopefully all will get transferred.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Carol Pearson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?


Hey, this looks very intersting, Jim!

I've read some of the blurb and am thinking of trying it out.

If anyone else has done so and is using it successfully, copying over two
mobile platforms, please let us know.

Thanks.

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 Original Message 
From: "Jim NOseworthy" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

> Hello:
>
> Go to:
> www.phonecopy.com
>
> Your problems will be solved.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reese
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?
>
> Best thing to do is take both phones into a AT&T dealer
> and let them do the transfer process for you.  Only takes
> a couple of minutes.  Trust me.  You really don't want
> the headache of trying to transfer them yourself.
>
> Reese
>
> - Original Message - hello all,
> does anyone know of a quick and easy way of transferring
> contacts from my nokia N96 to an iPhone 4S?
> at a guess, I have about 170 contacts to transfer across.
>
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Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

[Carol Pearson]

Hey, this looks very intersting, Jim!

I've read some of the blurb and am thinking of trying it out.

If anyone else has done so and is using it successfully, copying over two 
mobile platforms, please let us know.


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 Original Message 
From: "Jim NOseworthy" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?


Hello:

Go to:
www.phonecopy.com

Your problems will be solved.

Cheers.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reese
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

Best thing to do is take both phones into a AT&T dealer
and let them do the transfer process for you.  Only takes
a couple of minutes.  Trust me.  You really don't want
the headache of trying to transfer them yourself.

Reese

- Original Message - hello all,
does anyone know of a quick and easy way of transferring
contacts from my nokia N96 to an iPhone 4S?
at a guess, I have about 170 contacts to transfer across.

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RE: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

[Jim Noseworthy]

Save yourself all of the trouble and establish an account at:
www.phonecopy.com

Cheers.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 11:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?

The only problem with this method is that your SIM card may not hold all of
your contacts, all of the information in each contact or all of the
formatting information contained in your contacts. This is what I did though
to get started right away.

I'm now looking at getting all of the information in my contacts on my E71X
over to my iPhone. Another thing that seems to work is to export all of your
contacts on your Nokia phone to VCF files. You can then mail these VCF files
to yourself as attachments and then open them up on your iPhone. You'll then
have the choice to create new contacts or add the information to existing
contacts. This may still be more labor intensive than some other options,
but it appears to work and be an option.

On 28/05/12 14:04, Mike Cassidy wrote:
> Hi listers,
> 
>  
> 
> Another way might be to copy your contacts from your Nokia to the SIM 
> card, then import them into the iPhone in Settings on the iPhone. That 
> worked for me.
> 
>  
> 
> Hth,
> 
>  
> 
> Mike
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Judy
> *Sent:* 27 May 2012 21:14
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* ; 
> *Subject:* Re: transfering contacts from nokia to iPhone?
> 
>  
> 
> Hello. Go into iTunes and check info. Your contacts from your address 
> book will then be synced with your iPhone. I did this in outlook 
> express so I know it works.
> Thanks.
> Judy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 27, 2012, at 4:29 AM, "goshawk on horseback"
>  > wrote:
> 
> hello all,
> 
> does anyone know of a quick and easy way of transferring contacts
> from my nokia N96 to an iPhone 4S?
> 
> at a guess, I have about 170 contacts to transfer across.
> 
>  
> 
> Simon
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: ICatcher verses DownCast.

[Carol Pearson]

Both work well.  Downcast is slightly more complex but has more options, e.g., 
you can import MP3's, and there's more choice with speed control.

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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 6:32 PM
Subject: ICatcher verses DownCast.

> Hi Folks:
> 
> Any thoughts on which of these animals works best with
> accessibility?  I would try them both but both are payed
> apps.  
> 
> Thanks all over the place.
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Re: typing on the phone

[Rob Harris]

You might want to join this list too - : "Accessible iOS" 
 - as thisis where I first heard of it and I think the 
skill level and tech savvi is higher; should make  for useful feedback.

Ok, a good number of those are here too;  but not all, so worth a try.

Thanks, RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Thank you Rob,
we appreciate your good feedback and we hope that also someone else could
feel comfortable using TypeInBraille.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:

> "Training" is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app, 
> but
> practice is certainly the key.  It comes quite naturally to a previous or
> current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back
> and
> had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back.
>
> RobH, on a xp pc at the moment.
> - Original Message -
> From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> Hi guys,
> thank you for your appreciation.
> We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as
> Rob said.
>
> Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a
> labor-intensive
> way of
> inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster
> than using the traditional keyboard or any other app.
> On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user,
> can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the
> TypeInBraille keyboard.  The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you at
> 5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with
> the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter
> of practice.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris 
> wrote:
>
> > Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what  is necessary.  I'd like
> all
> > editors to have that 3 mode  system and they'd all be good, but they
> > haven't.  suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused
> > between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the 
> > menu
> > evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I
> missed
> > it!
> >
> > Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in 
> > the
> > normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going
> > back
> > directly and swiping back to the top...   gets irritating, but just
> > remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we
> > can
> > skip that issue. But the scrub would help.
> >
> > So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure 
> > that
> > can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of
> > changing mode.
> >
> > But still love it for the efficiency,   and it is you know;  and gets
> > things
> > done with much less groping about.
> >
> > Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even.
> >
> > Many thanks, and it is appreciated.
> >
> > RobH.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
> of
> > TypeInBraille app.
> > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
> > as
> > a good solution to type on your mobile device.
> >
> > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers <
> > jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> > > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> > > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> > > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> > > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> > > I've more time.
> > >
> > > Jeremiah
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then
> we
> > > have
> > > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain 
> > > > amount
> > > even
> > > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> > > return,
> > > > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> > > >
> > > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> > > > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
> > thumb
> > > > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One questi

Re: YouVersion Question

[Carol Pearson]

Hi Sarah,

Sorry, haven't time to give detailed instructions now ... but I think you'll 
catch on if I start you off:


1)Double Tap each verse you want to include;
2Locate a rather small button on the bottom right edge which says 
"Action".


From there you follow your nose and it's necessary to swipe all the way to 

the left to get a feel of what you can do there ...

Any more questions when you've played a little, do come back and I'll do my 
best to give some more detailed explanations if I can.


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To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: YouVersion Question


Hi:
How do you create notes and Bookmarks with Youversion?

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Re: typing on the phone

[EWTEch Accessibility]

Thank you Rob,
we appreciate your good feedback and we hope that also someone else could
feel comfortable using TypeInBraille.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:

> "Training" is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app, but
> practice is certainly the key.  It comes quite naturally to a previous or
> current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back
> and
> had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back.
>
> RobH, on a xp pc at the moment.
> - Original Message -
> From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> Hi guys,
> thank you for your appreciation.
> We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as
> Rob said.
>
> Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a
> labor-intensive
> way of
> inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster
> than using the traditional keyboard or any other app.
> On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user,
> can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the
> TypeInBraille keyboard.  The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you at
> 5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with
> the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter
> of practice.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris 
> wrote:
>
> > Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what  is necessary.  I'd like
> all
> > editors to have that 3 mode  system and they'd all be good, but they
> > haven't.  suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused
> > between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the menu
> > evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I
> missed
> > it!
> >
> > Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in the
> > normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going
> > back
> > directly and swiping back to the top...   gets irritating, but just
> > remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we
> > can
> > skip that issue. But the scrub would help.
> >
> > So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure that
> > can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of
> > changing mode.
> >
> > But still love it for the efficiency,   and it is you know;  and gets
> > things
> > done with much less groping about.
> >
> > Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even.
> >
> > Many thanks, and it is appreciated.
> >
> > RobH.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers
> of
> > TypeInBraille app.
> > We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it
> > as
> > a good solution to type on your mobile device.
> >
> > For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> > http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers <
> > jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> > > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> > > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> > > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> > > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> > > I've more time.
> > >
> > > Jeremiah
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then
> we
> > > have
> > > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> > > even
> > > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> > > return,
> > > > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> > > >
> > > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> > > > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
> > thumb
> > > > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> > > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> > > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> > > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> > > > thing that seemed odd.
> > > >
> > > > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> > > > touch typing method, but 

Re: typing on the phone

[Rob Harris]

"Training" is almost an excessive word given the simplicity of the app, but 
practice is certainly the key.  It comes quite naturally to a previous or 
current braillist. It's decades since I used a Perkins, but it came back and 
had it in a couple of days, and wouldn't want to go back.

RobH, on a xp pc at the moment.
- Original Message - 
From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Hi guys,
thank you for your appreciation.
We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as
Rob said.

Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a
labor-intensive
way of
inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster
than using the traditional keyboard or any other app.
On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user,
can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the
TypeInBraille keyboard.  The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you at
5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with
the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter
of practice.



On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:

> Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what  is necessary.  I'd like all
> editors to have that 3 mode  system and they'd all be good, but they
> haven't.  suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused
> between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the menu
> evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I missed
> it!
>
> Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in the
> normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going
> back
> directly and swiping back to the top...   gets irritating, but just
> remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we
> can
> skip that issue. But the scrub would help.
>
> So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure that
> can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of
> changing mode.
>
> But still love it for the efficiency,   and it is you know;  and gets
> things
> done with much less groping about.
>
> Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even.
>
> Many thanks, and it is appreciated.
>
> RobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
> TypeInBraille app.
> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it 
> as
> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>
> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers <
> jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> > I've more time.
> >
> > Jeremiah
> >
> >
> > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
> > have
> > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> > even
> > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> > return,
> > > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> > >
> > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> > > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
> thumb
> > > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> > >
> > >
> > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> > > thing that seemed odd.
> > >
> > > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> > > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> > > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> > > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> > > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> > > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> > > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
> > >
> > > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> > 

Re: typing on the phone

[EWTEch Accessibility]

Hi guys,
thank you for your appreciation.
We are working to "fix" the rotor issue, maybe using different buttons as
Rob said.

Kimber, i don't think that TypeInBraille could be considered as a
labor-intensive
way of
inputting text. After few days of practice you can easily type much faster
than using the traditional keyboard or any other app.
On our website there is an audio/video that shows how fast, a blind user,
can type the same text using both the traditional keyboard and the
TypeInBraille keyboard.  The blind user was asked to type: "Ok, see you at
5" --> 18 sec with TypeInBraille (after 3 weeks of training), 42 sec with
the traditional keyboard (after 3 months of training). It's just a matter
of practice.



On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:

> Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what  is necessary.  I'd like all
> editors to have that 3 mode  system and they'd all be good, but they
> haven't.  suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused
> between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the menu
> evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I missed
> it!
>
> Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in the
> normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going
> back
> directly and swiping back to the top...   gets irritating, but just
> remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we
> can
> skip that issue. But the scrub would help.
>
> So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure that
> can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of
> changing mode.
>
> But still love it for the efficiency,   and it is you know;  and gets
> things
> done with much less groping about.
>
> Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even.
>
> Many thanks, and it is appreciated.
>
> RobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
> TypeInBraille app.
> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>
> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers <
> jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> > described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> > at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> > I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> > used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> > I've more time.
> >
> > Jeremiah
> >
> >
> > On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
> > have
> > > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> > even
> > > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> > return,
> > > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> > >
> > > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> > > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
> thumb
> > > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> > >
> > >
> > > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> > > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> > > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> > > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> > > thing that seemed odd.
> > >
> > > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> > > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> > > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> > > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> > > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> > > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> > > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
> > >
> > > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> > > Mobile: 704-996-5334
> > > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> > >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
> > touch
> > >> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
> > >>
> > >> Jane
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
> > >>> hand
> > >>> over

Re: typing on the phone

[Rob Harris]

Yes, you get good at it and with practice, it is quicker and more reliable 
than groping all over the virtual keyboard on the screen. Good in noisy 
environments when you can't hear the feedback of what you're touching on 
screen.  It's not quite a real keyboard, but it offers that kind of 
assurance of you know what you're doing without having to be prompted or 
confirmed every step of the way.  That's the real benefit.  I think the 3 
modes you switch on the rotor would be a great advance on all edit fields to 
be honest, but that's asking too much.  But, and I do do this,  do the 
writing in TIB, copy to clipboard as a basic option, then go to the real app 
and paste straight into the  field.
It has basics already like sms, email, twitter and facebook;  and just use 
the clipboard feature after that.

I started off a bit cynical, but some of the greatest advocates started 
there too.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued
when I read the description, but after listening to the demo,my
initial impression is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of
inputting text.

Anyone have any real-world feedback to share?

Kimber

On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility  wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
> TypeInBraille app.
> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it 
> as
> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>
> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
>> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
>> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
>> I've more time.
>>
>> Jeremiah
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
>> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
>> have
>> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
>> even
>> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
>> return,
>> > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>> >
>> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
>> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
>> > thumb
>> > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
>> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> >
>> >
>> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
>> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
>> > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
>> > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
>> > thing that seemed odd.
>> >
>> > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
>> > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
>> > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
>> > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
>> > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
>> > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
>> > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>> >
>> > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>> > Mobile: 704-996-5334
>> > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
>> >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
>> touch
>> >> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>> >>
>> >> Jane
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
>> >>> hand
>> >>> over
>> >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
>> >>> bit,
>> >>> now
>> >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
>> you
>> >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
>> undo
>> >>> it
>> >>> and learn it another.
>> >>>
>> >>> RobH.
>> >>> - Original Message -
>> >>> From: "Holly" 
>> >>> To: "VIPhone" 
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>> >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>> >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
>> >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
>> >>> h

Re: typing on the phone

[Rob Harris]

Love it! This is an old 3GS, but it does what  is necessary.  I'd like all 
editors to have that 3 mode  system and they'd all be good, but they 
haven't.  suggest buttons for changing mode as my device gets confused 
between which rotor it is responding to. Ok, you could put it in the menu 
evenand I'm just off to check that you didn't already and I missed 
it!

Ok, it's not in there, and I also note that the bak button, though in the 
normal place at the top, doesn't respond to the scrub gesture for going back 
directly and swiping back to the top...   gets irritating, but just 
remembered the 4 finger thing to go directly to the top or bottom, so we can 
skip that issue. But the scrub would help.

So it's only the rotor that bugs me or my device a bit, and I'm sure that 
can be fixed with specific gestures or arranging an alternative means of 
changing mode.

But still love it for the efficiency,   and it is you know;  and gets things 
done with much less groping about.

Bet you could use some of the stray unused hcaracters too even.

Many thanks, and it is appreciated.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "EWTEch Accessibility" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: typing on the phone


Hi everybody,

we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
a good solution to type on your mobile device.

For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille

Thank you


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers  wrote:

> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> I've more time.
>
> Jeremiah
>
>
> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
> have
> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> even
> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> return,
> > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> >
> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
> > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >
> >
> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> > thing that seemed odd.
> >
> > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
> >
> > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> > Mobile: 704-996-5334
> > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
> touch
> >> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
> >>
> >> Jane
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so 
> >>> hand
> >>> over
> >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a 
> >>> bit,
> >>> now
> >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
> you
> >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
> undo
> >>> it
> >>> and learn it another.
> >>>
> >>> RobH.
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Holly" 
> >>> To: "VIPhone" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
> >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
> >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
> >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
> >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
> >>> for longer typing needs.
> >>>
> >>> Holly and Ajax
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone"
> >>> G

Re: typing on the phone

[Kimber Gardner]

I'd like to hear from people who are using this app. I was intrigued
when I read the description, but after listening to the demo,my
initial impression is that it's a rather labor-intensive way of
inputting text.

Anyone have any real-world feedback to share?

Kimber

On 5/29/12, EWTEch Accessibility  wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
> TypeInBraille app.
> We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
> a good solution to type on your mobile device.
>
> For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
>> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
>> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
>> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
>> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
>> I've more time.
>>
>> Jeremiah
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
>> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
>> have
>> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
>> even
>> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
>> return,
>> > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
>> >
>> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
>> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate
>> > thumb
>> > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
>> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> >
>> >
>> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
>> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
>> > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
>> > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
>> > thing that seemed odd.
>> >
>> > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
>> > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
>> > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
>> > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
>> > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
>> > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
>> > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
>> >
>> > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>> > Mobile: 704-996-5334
>> > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
>> >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
>> touch
>> >> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
>> >>
>> >> Jane
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so
>> >>> hand
>> >>> over
>> >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a
>> >>> bit,
>> >>> now
>> >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
>> you
>> >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
>> undo
>> >>> it
>> >>> and learn it another.
>> >>>
>> >>> RobH.
>> >>> - Original Message -
>> >>> From: "Holly" 
>> >>> To: "VIPhone" 
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
>> >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
>> >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
>> >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
>> >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
>> >>> for longer typing needs.
>> >>>
>> >>> Holly and Ajax
>> >>>
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Re: CD barcode scanning app

[EWTEch Accessibility]

Hi Phil,
with AudioLabels you can scan every barcode and receive information about
it. It also works with CDs and it also give you the possibility to ask for
personal QR codes via email in which you can add your own text or audio
description.

For more information about it:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/audiolabels

We appreciate any comment or suggestion.

Thank you

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Richard Turner
wrote:

> **
> Have you tried the bar code function in oMoby?
>
> I have not had time to try that.
>  Perhaps Red Laser as well.
> I suspect Digit-Eyes would work, but it isn't free.
>
> I'm assuming this is on an iPhone.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>  --
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Phil Halton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:04 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* CD barcode scanning app
>
>  Is there a app that'll scan the barcodes on CD's and tell me what the CD
> artist/title is?
>
> I used Noogle Noggles for this purpose before that app went away and it
> worked great. Hoping there is something that'll perform as well for
> scanning CD's
>
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Re: typing on the phone

[EWTEch Accessibility]

Hi everybody,

we are the Accessibility Team of EveryWare Technologies, the developers of
TypeInBraille app.
We'd like to know what do you think about our app and if you consider it as
a good solution to type on your mobile device.

For those who want to get more information about TypeInBraille:
http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille

Thank you


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jeremiah Rogers  wrote:

> Hi CJ. The initial appeal to me of touch typing was just as you
> described - I liked not having to hunt for te next letter. I did well
> at immediately finding the next letter I wanted. Unfortunately though,
> I seem to be missing the letter on the first try more often now than I
> used to. I'm also intrigued by the thumb thing. Will try that when
> I've more time.
>
> Jeremiah
>
>
> On 5/21/12, Rob Harris  wrote:
> > Depends if the tapper is likely to hit the edge of the screen, then we
> have
> > to swap or change angle dramatically, and have to do a certain amount
> even
> > when touch typing as control type keys need it regardless. - shift,
> return,
> > More numbers/letter/other, etc.
> >
> > But a recent theme about double thumb typing offered an interesting
> > deviation in which case covering half the kb each, the appropriate thumb
> > hunts and the other taps, and vicerVersa.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jeremiah Rogers" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >
> >
> > One question for you split tappers, any tips for when to switch the
> > duties of fingers? Do you have certain letter combos, certain words,
> > etc where you just know you're tapper will become the hunter? Just
> > having sent a couple texts with the split tap method, that's the only
> > thing that seemed odd.
> >
> > I've learned much from this typing discussion. Initially, I loved the
> > touch typing method, but it seems to me that iOS has gotten less
> > responsive, even across hardware, than I remember it being when I got
> > my first iOS device most of two years ago. It may just be my
> > expectations, but I remember touch typing faster, and more accurately,
> > when I got that device than I can now. Prompted by this thread, I'm
> > trying out the split tap method and am quite intrigued.
> >
> > Jeremiah Z. Rogers
> > Mobile: 704-996-5334
> > Email: jeremiahzrog...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On 5/19/12, Jane  wrote:
> >> I've found that typingwith both index fingers in portrait work using
> touch
> >> typing works reallly well.  I'm not a whiz at it, but it's working.
> >>
> >> Jane
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 19, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, just trying this thumbs thing,  so got the phone sideways,  so hand
> >>> over
> >>> the one main speaker outlet;   so couldn't hear it.  Moved hands a bit,
> >>> now
> >>> doesn't hold very comfortably;  but got a text donein the end.  Once
> you
> >>> learn a thing one way, there needs to be a darned good motivation to
> undo
> >>> it
> >>> and learn it another.
> >>>
> >>> RobH.
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Holly" 
> >>> To: "VIPhone" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:09 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: typing on the phone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I usually type with my thumbs, but sometimes with my right index
> >>> finger. I became accustomed to typing with my thumbs while using a
> >>> querty keyboard on an android. I have used a home row on a computer
> >>> since age nine, so learning to locate keys with my thumbs was not too
> >>> hard. I am not very fast, but it works. I have a bluetooth keyboard
> >>> for longer typing needs.
> >>>
> >>> Holly and Ajax
> >>>
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