Nice Improvement in IOS 6.1

[Les Kriegler]

One longstanding irritation has been when one turned VO off and then back on, 
or one re-booted the iPhone, Samantha always came back on as the default voice. 
 This has been fixed.  Now, the current voice you have chosen remains the 
default in the fore mentioned circumstances.  Very nice.

Les

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Re: access note, is it worth it?

[Brett]

Hi, 

A great informative post. Can you let me know which file types are supported, 
as this isn't mentioned in the description. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 31/01/2013, at 2:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> From my perspective, AccessNote is absolutely worth the money. I got it a few 
> hours ago and am thrilled. Yes, it needs more features, such as find and 
> replace, the ability to move by paragraph with a braille display, and the 
> ability to handle more file types. But it does quite a few things that no 
> other notetaking app I've tried does, and it does them well.
> 
> One is that when I do a search, I am taken right to the spot where the search 
> item is. This sort of works in Pages if I'm using a braille display, but 
> really doesn't work well for me when I'm not. I've wanted to be able to 
> search my documents for years, and I love being able to do it consistently.
> 
> Another benefit is that unlike Pages, wherever I am is in edit mode. With 
> Pages, I have been frustrated on many occasions by reading along and wanting 
> to change something, double-tapping, and finding the insertion point is 
> somewhere else entirely, so I have to find my place again. This isn't 
> happening with accessNote, at least so far.
> 
> AccessNote saves my place in a file. If I'm reading with a braille display, I 
> need to double-tap to be sure the correct location is saved, and I need to 
> back out of the file before removing the app from the App switcher, but if I 
> do those things, it works consistently. Moreover, when I open the app, the 
> line I was reading appears on the display, rather than my needing to tap 
> somewhere to get focus to the right place. This isn't a big deal, but it's a 
> nice change from other apps.
> 
> Finally, it's a way to read braille files without a lot of processing, and 
> the files appear using the formatting with which they were written. Since 
> most braille files have a lot of extra dot 7s in them, I would still want to 
> change the case of the whole file to lower case first to get rid of them. But 
> if the files don't have them or if you don't care about eliminating them, all 
> you have to do is add a txt extension, and they appear in beautifully 
> formatted braille.
> 
> Is $20 a lot to spend for a notetaking app? Absolutely. But since this does 
> so many things that no other app I've used does, I'm glad I bought it.
> 
> The other notetaking apps I've used are Pages, which has the problems I 
> mentioned, Notes, which is great for short things but would be a pain for 
> longer ones because it has no search ability, and very briefly Elements, 
> which has no search facility, Notesy, which wouldn't open the text files I 
> wanted to work with because I guess they were too long, and Write 2, which 
> wouldn't speak any of my search results. There certainly might be apps I've 
> missed that have AccessNote's features, but I've tried quite a few and 
> haven't found those features anywhere else. 
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> I'm a totally blind iphone user. I use a bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone,  
>> I don't use a Braille display. So what I was wondering, is access note worth 
>> the $20?
>> Courtney 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Mini
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Re: Bad Sleep/Wake Switch

[Pete Nalda]

As it so happens, I have a used iPhone 4 that exhibits this same problem.  I've 
gouged a hole in the rubber of my OtterBox defender from pushing so hard to 
make that button activate.  I don't know what the cure is either, 
unfortunately.  Just letting folks know that this has happened to more than one 
person.

On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:53 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> No, the sleep button does not usually weaken over time. I have an iPhone 4 
> that I purchased in 2010 which still works well. I recently replaced it with 
> an iPhone 5.
> 
> If you do not have Apple Care, the repair is bound to cost a significant 
> amount of money. Apple will know if you have Apple Care. You can call them to 
> find out.
> 
> If you are on a calling plan, it would probably cost less to upgrade your 
> iPhone.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 31/01/2013, at 17:45, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I bought my 32-gig iPhone 4 from AT&T in April of 2011 or thereabouts.
>> I have some questions about the phone, which has suddenly developed a 
>> problem with the Sleep/Wake switch.  It's gotten really difficult to press 
>> for some reason and doesn't stand out as much as the switch on my friend's 
>> iPhone 4. The phone has seen a lot of use and has been dropped a time or two 
>> in the past, but never on a hard surface, and I always keep it in an 
>> Otterbox Defender case. It has not been dropped recently.
>>  
>> So my questions are these:
>> 1.  Has anybody heard of the on/off switches getting funky from normal wear 
>> and tear on the iPhone 4? 
>> 2. I can't remember buying Apple Care for it, but my girlfriend swears that 
>> I did.  Is there a way to check that through the Apple website or would that 
>> information be available on the phone itself?
>> 3. I'm eligible for an upgrade but money's tight right now. Assuming that I 
>> don't have Apple Care, would Apple replace the device or repair it, and how 
>> much is that apt to cost me?  
>> 4. Would I be better off taking it back to my local AT&T store to see what 
>> they can do for me? 
>>  
>> Thanks in advance.
>>  
>> Tom
>>  
>>  
>> 
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Re: Problem with updating APPS using the IPhone APP Store

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I installed IOS 6.1 yesterday afternoon, and having seen this latest thread 
about updating using the app store, I got curious and tried individual 
updates, including Tap Tap See, Around Me, Digit Eyes and Fandango.  All of 
the updates worked fine.  No problems doing this on an iPhone 4.


By the way, those of you who are interested in Tap Tap See will be pleased 
to hear that one of the new features that's been added is a Repeat button.


Tom

- Original Message - 
From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with updating APPS using the IPhone APP Store



Hi,

I can update on the iPHone just fine using the Update All button. I 
haven't tried with individual updates. Unless there's some reason you 
don't want to update everything, try the Update All button.


Best,
Anna



On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  
wrote:



Good evening all:

Since updating my IOS to 6.1, I am no longer able to update my APPS using 
the IPhone app store.


When I double tap on the update things, it seems like the new screen is 
updating (something like if a new page is being loaded) but nothing 
happens and I waited for more than ten minutes.


Is anybody else having this problem?

Cheers.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigue...@hotmail.com




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Re: otterbox defender replacement

[Agent086b]

I was under the impression they were made for the 4S as well.
Max.
On 31/01/2013, at 4:02 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

> this is for a 4s.
> ***
> character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.
> 
> web page
> http://www.wrighthere.net
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Agent086b" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: otterbox defender replacement
> 
> 
> Hello, do you want an Otterbox defender or would you consider something 
> else. I have just got an iPhone5 and I did not want another Otterbox 
> Defender case as I found them to bulky. I purchased an Otterbox Commuter 
> Series case. I much prefer this to the Defender. They are not as protective 
> as the Defender but much thinner.
> You might like to check them out.
> Max.
> On 31/01/2013, at 12:00 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
>> both my jell case and the screen protector are getting loose. Does anyone
>> have the web page address where I can research a replacement?
>> ***
>> character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.
>> 
>> web page
>> http://www.wrighthere.net
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Re: otterbox defender replacement

[Robert Doc Wright]

this is for a 4s.
***
character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.

web page
http://www.wrighthere.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Agent086b" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: otterbox defender replacement


Hello, do you want an Otterbox defender or would you consider something 
else. I have just got an iPhone5 and I did not want another Otterbox 
Defender case as I found them to bulky. I purchased an Otterbox Commuter 
Series case. I much prefer this to the Defender. They are not as protective 
as the Defender but much thinner.
You might like to check them out.
Max.
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wrote:

> both my jell case and the screen protector are getting loose. Does anyone
> have the web page address where I can research a replacement?
> ***
> character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.
>
> web page
> http://www.wrighthere.net
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Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

[Brett]

 Hi interesting! I don't see any issues with Twitterific or HootSuit. 
Wonder why its different for Tweatlist.


Cheers,
Brett.

Brett


On 31/01/2013 3:41 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
The issue relates to a rate limit imposed on Tweetlist in the new 
Twitter API they just switched to. They're working with Twitter on the 
issue.


Jonathan
On 31/01/2013, at 4:21 PM, Brett > wrote:



Hi,

No, its not just you and me, I have also just had a couple of friends 
asking me if I had seen this issue. since it looks to be quite 
common, I would assume Tweatlist will release an update to fix this 
issue shortly.



Cheers,
Brett

On 31/01/2013 1:17 PM, Cristobal wrote:


Ah, well, I don’t have any lists. Just the main feed. Nevertheless, 
it’s good to know it’s not just me.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Brett

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:40 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

Hi,
I am only seeing this problem with the refresh issue in my main 
timeline. I don't see any issues when looking at lists.


Sent from Brett's iPhone


On 31/01/2013, at 12:22 PM, "Cristobal" > wrote:


Hello list,

So I updated TweetList earlier this morning on my 4S and since
then, my twitter feed isn’t refreshing like before. Not even
with I try to refresh it myself with a three finger flick down
or by clicking the refresh button in the app. Has anyone else
updated this app and have they experienced this refreshing issue
too?

Thanks,

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Re: Bad Sleep/Wake Switch

[David Chittenden]

No, the sleep button does not usually weaken over time. I have an iPhone 4 that 
I purchased in 2010 which still works well. I recently replaced it with an 
iPhone 5.

If you do not have Apple Care, the repair is bound to cost a significant amount 
of money. Apple will know if you have Apple Care. You can call them to find out.

If you are on a calling plan, it would probably cost less to upgrade your 
iPhone.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 31/01/2013, at 17:45, Tom Lange  wrote:

> Hi,
> I bought my 32-gig iPhone 4 from AT&T in April of 2011 or thereabouts.
> I have some questions about the phone, which has suddenly developed a problem 
> with the Sleep/Wake switch.  It's gotten really difficult to press for some 
> reason and doesn't stand out as much as the switch on my friend's iPhone 4. 
> The phone has seen a lot of use and has been dropped a time or two in the 
> past, but never on a hard surface, and I always keep it in an Otterbox 
> Defender case. It has not been dropped recently.
>  
> So my questions are these:
> 1.  Has anybody heard of the on/off switches getting funky from normal wear 
> and tear on the iPhone 4? 
> 2. I can't remember buying Apple Care for it, but my girlfriend swears that I 
> did.  Is there a way to check that through the Apple website or would that 
> information be available on the phone itself?
> 3. I'm eligible for an upgrade but money's tight right now. Assuming that I 
> don't have Apple Care, would Apple replace the device or repair it, and how 
> much is that apt to cost me?  
> 4. Would I be better off taking it back to my local AT&T store to see what 
> they can do for me? 
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Tom
>  
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Re: access note, is it worth it?

[Mary Otten]

I'm just bummed that I can't use it on my iPad 1. I can't imagine what they 
needed to require ios6 for. 
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Bad Sleep/Wake Switch

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I bought my 32-gig iPhone 4 from AT&T in April of 2011 or thereabouts. 
I have some questions about the phone, which has suddenly developed a problem 
with the Sleep/Wake switch.  It's gotten really difficult to press for some 
reason and doesn't stand out as much as the switch on my friend's iPhone 4. The 
phone has seen a lot of use and has been dropped a time or two in the past, but 
never on a hard surface, and I always keep it in an Otterbox Defender case. It 
has not been dropped recently.

So my questions are these:
1.  Has anybody heard of the on/off switches getting funky from normal wear and 
tear on the iPhone 4?  
2. I can't remember buying Apple Care for it, but my girlfriend swears that I 
did.  Is there a way to check that through the Apple website or would that 
information be available on the phone itself?
3. I'm eligible for an upgrade but money's tight right now. Assuming that I 
don't have Apple Care, would Apple replace the device or repair it, and how 
much is that apt to cost me?   
4. Would I be better off taking it back to my local AT&T store to see what they 
can do for me?  

Thanks in advance.

Tom

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Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

[Jonathan Mosen]

The issue relates to a rate limit imposed on Tweetlist in the new Twitter API 
they just switched to. They're working with Twitter on the issue.

Jonathan
On 31/01/2013, at 4:21 PM, Brett  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No, its not just you and me, I have also just had a couple of friends asking 
> me if I had seen this issue. since it looks to be quite common, I would 
> assume Tweatlist will release an update to fix this issue shortly.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Brett
> 
> On 31/01/2013 1:17 PM, Cristobal wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, well, I don’t have any lists. Just the main feed. Nevertheless, it’s 
>> good to know it’s not just me.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Brett
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update
>>  
>> Hi,
>> I am only seeing this problem with the refresh issue in my main timeline. I 
>> don't see any issues when looking at lists.
>> 
>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>> 
>> On 31/01/2013, at 12:22 PM, "Cristobal"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>>  
>> So I updated TweetList earlier this morning on my 4S and since then, my 
>> twitter feed isn’t refreshing like before. Not even with I try to refresh it 
>> myself with a three finger flick down or by clicking the refresh button in 
>> the app. Has anyone else updated this app and have they experienced this 
>> refreshing issue too?
>>  
>> Thanks,
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Re: otterbox defender replacement

[Agent086b]

Hello, do you want an Otterbox defender or would you consider something else. I 
have just got an iPhone5 and I did not want another Otterbox Defender case as I 
found them to bulky. I purchased an Otterbox Commuter Series case. I much 
prefer this to the Defender. They are not as protective as the Defender but 
much thinner.
You might like to check them out.
Max.
On 31/01/2013, at 12:00 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

> both my jell case and the screen protector are getting loose. Does anyone 
> have the web page address where I can research a replacement?
> ***
> character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.
> 
> web page
> http://www.wrighthere.net
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Re: 1 last keyboard question, I hope

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello Kim, this is called eject. The Apple and Amazon keyboards have 
this functionality as well. I would imagine that the Logitech does as 
well, but of course I could be wrong.


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On 1/30/2013 5:23 PM, Kim wrote:

I read that the Verbatim keyboard has a button that activates the
virtual keyboard on the phone.  I assume this is so if one needs to do
something using gestures instead of the keyboard this would be easy to do.

I didn't see that the Logitech keyboard had this feature.  Does anyone
know?  Or, is it really very important?

Kim



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Re: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, this is normal ... Unless of course, you jailbreak. In which case, 
you can set it so playback resumes when headphones are connected as well.


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On 1/30/2013 8:55 PM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

Okay, fine, except it didn't start up again when I plugged the headset
back in.  In this case, I had to restart the stream.

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Re: Problem with updating APPS using the IPhone APP Store

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I can update on the iPHone just fine using the Update All button. I haven't 
tried with individual updates. Unless there's some reason you don't want to 
update everything, try the Update All button.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

> Good evening all:
> 
> Since updating my IOS to 6.1, I am no longer able to update my APPS using the 
> IPhone app store.
> 
> When I double tap on the update things, it seems like the new screen is 
> updating (something like if a new page is being loaded) but nothing happens 
> and I waited for more than ten minutes.
> 
> Is anybody else having this problem?
> 
> Cheers.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: access note, is it worth it?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

>From my perspective, AccessNote is absolutely worth the money. I got it a few 
>hours ago and am thrilled. Yes, it needs more features, such as find and 
>replace, the ability to move by paragraph with a braille display, and the 
>ability to handle more file types. But it does quite a few things that no 
>other notetaking app I've tried does, and it does them well.

One is that when I do a search, I am taken right to the spot where the search 
item is. This sort of works in Pages if I'm using a braille display, but really 
doesn't work well for me when I'm not. I've wanted to be able to search my 
documents for years, and I love being able to do it consistently.

Another benefit is that unlike Pages, wherever I am is in edit mode. With 
Pages, I have been frustrated on many occasions by reading along and wanting to 
change something, double-tapping, and finding the insertion point is somewhere 
else entirely, so I have to find my place again. This isn't happening with 
accessNote, at least so far.

AccessNote saves my place in a file. If I'm reading with a braille display, I 
need to double-tap to be sure the correct location is saved, and I need to back 
out of the file before removing the app from the App switcher, but if I do 
those things, it works consistently. Moreover, when I open the app, the line I 
was reading appears on the display, rather than my needing to tap somewhere to 
get focus to the right place. This isn't a big deal, but it's a nice change 
from other apps.

Finally, it's a way to read braille files without a lot of processing, and the 
files appear using the formatting with which they were written. Since most 
braille files have a lot of extra dot 7s in them, I would still want to change 
the case of the whole file to lower case first to get rid of them. But if the 
files don't have them or if you don't care about eliminating them, all you have 
to do is add a txt extension, and they appear in beautifully formatted braille.

Is $20 a lot to spend for a notetaking app? Absolutely. But since this does so 
many things that no other app I've used does, I'm glad I bought it.

The other notetaking apps I've used are Pages, which has the problems I 
mentioned, Notes, which is great for short things but would be a pain for 
longer ones because it has no search ability, and very briefly Elements, which 
has no search facility, Notesy, which wouldn't open the text files I wanted to 
work with because I guess they were too long, and Write 2, which wouldn't speak 
any of my search results. There certainly might be apps I've missed that have 
AccessNote's features, but I've tried quite a few and haven't found those 
features anywhere else. 

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:

> Hi, 
> I'm a totally blind iphone user. I use a bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone,  
> I don't use a Braille display. So what I was wondering, is access note worth 
> the $20?
> Courtney 
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Re: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

[David Chittenden]

Yes, also normal behaviour. When headset or speaker is connected, iOS waits for 
you to tell it what to play if nothing is playing before the headset is 
connected.

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On 31/01/2013, at 15:55, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> Okay, fine, except it didn't start up again when I plugged the headset back 
> in.  In this case, I had to restart the stream.
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Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

[Brett]

 Hi,

No, its not just you and me, I have also just had a couple of friends 
asking me if I had seen this issue. since it looks to be quite common, I 
would assume Tweatlist will release an update to fix this issue shortly.



Cheers,

Brett


On 31/01/2013 1:17 PM, Cristobal wrote:


Ah, well, I don't have any lists. Just the main feed. Nevertheless, 
it's good to know it's not just me.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Brett

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:40 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

Hi,
I am only seeing this problem with the refresh issue in my main 
timeline. I don't see any issues when looking at lists.


Sent from Brett's iPhone


On 31/01/2013, at 12:22 PM, "Cristobal" > wrote:


Hello list,

So I updated TweetList earlier this morning on my 4S and since
then, my twitter feed isn't refreshing like before. Not even with
I try to refresh it myself with a three finger flick down or by
clicking the refresh button in the app. Has anyone else updated
this app and have they experienced this refreshing issue too?

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Re: lost twitter and facebook from notifications

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Jo,

Open Settings, and double-tap Notifications. Double-tap Share Widget, and 
double-tap the toggle until it says "On." That should do it.

Best,
Anna



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> Hi Group. For some reason, I have lost twitter and facebook from 
> notifications so can't quickly use these features to post. Anyone able to 
> help me put them back. No idea what I have done - groan. 
> Thanks, 
> Jo - oh, still using 6.0. Haven't updated yet. 
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Re: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

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Okay, fine, except it didn't start up again when I plugged the headset back in. 
 In this case, I had to restart the stream.

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Re: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

[David Chittenden]

Oh this is proper behaviour. When listening to music, for better quality, 
people connect a speaker source through the headphone jack or Bluetooth. So, 
the assumption is that you want the playback to end when the speakers or 
headset is disconnected. If I am listening to something using my iPhone speaker 
and the iPhone is locked, I sometimes plug and unplug my headset to stop 
playback rather than turning on the iDevice.

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On 31/01/2013, at 12:23, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> What I have found out is that, if I start with the Ipad speakers playing, a 
> stream and VO will play, and then I can switch to a headset, but *NOT* the 
> other way around.  Just weirdness.
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Re: lost twitter and facebook from notifications

[Jodie Hoger]

Thanks so much for that. that is exactly what I had done - smile. Thought it 
had something to do with shares as in the share market??? Feeling very stupid - 
grin. 

Sent from my iPhone 

On 31/01/2013, at 10:48 AM, Joshua Klander  wrote:

> Hello.  My guess is that you somehow disabled the share widget.  To re-enable 
> it, follow these steps:
> 1.  Go into settings and select "notifications."
> 2.  There should be a heading called "not in notification center."
> 3.  Under this heading, locate the item called "share widget," and double-tap 
> it.
> 4.  Swipe to the right until you hear "notification center." This is a 
> toggle, which is most likely disabled.  Double-tap to enable it.
> hth
> Josh
> - Original Message -
> From: Jodie Hoger  To: Viphone  Date sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:37:46 +1100
> Subject: lost twitter and facebook from notifications
> 
> Hi Group.  For some reason, I have lost twitter and facebook from 
> notifications so can't quickly use these features to post.  Anyone able to 
> help me put them back.  No idea what I have done - groan.
> Thanks,
> Jo - oh, still using 6.0.  Haven't updated yet.
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RE: Problem with updating APPS using the IPhone APP Store

[Tony]

I've been having this problem for about 3 weeks, obviously before the latest
update.  I have deleted some of the apps and downloaded them again to get
around this.  
 
Tony
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marcos Rodrigues
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem with updating APPS using the IPhone APP Store


Good evening all: 

Since updating my IOS to 6.1, I am no longer able to update my APPS using
the IPhone app store.

When I double tap on the update things, it seems like the new screen is
updating (something like if a new page is being loaded) but nothing happens
and I waited for more than ten minutes.

Is anybody else having this problem?

Cheers.

Marcos Rodrigues
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RE: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

[Cristobal]

Ah, well, I don't have any lists. Just the main feed. Nevertheless, it's
good to know it's not just me. 

 

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Of Brett
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

 

Hi,
I am only seeing this problem with the refresh issue in my main timeline. I
don't see any issues when looking at lists.

Sent from Brett's iPhone


On 31/01/2013, at 12:22 PM, "Cristobal"  wrote:

Hello list,

 

So I updated TweetList earlier this morning on my 4S and since then, my
twitter feed isn't refreshing like before. Not even with I try to refresh it
myself with a three finger flick down or by clicking the refresh button in
the app. Has anyone else updated this app and have they experienced this
refreshing issue too?

 

Thanks,

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Re: otterbox defender replacement

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Try www.otterbox.com

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On 1/30/2013 7:00 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

both my jell case and the screen protector are getting loose. Does anyone
have the web page address where I can research a replacement?
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RE: very basic iPad question

[Kim]

Thanks Joe,

That's exactly the conclusion I've come to (for me) which is why 
I'm looking for a comfortable, user friendly BT keyboard.


Kim


- Original Message -
From: "Joe" 

I wouldn't get an iPad Mini, or iPad of any kind, if you're happy 

with your
iPhone. Yeah, it's everyone's individual choice yadda yadda, but 

honestly,

I've got an iPad and an iPhone and the iPad just feels bulky and
unnecessary. Pair up your iPhone with a Bluetooth, and you're 

going to get
the exact same experience. Longer battery life? Not enough to 

make a
difference and not something one of the portable battery pakcs 

can't solve.
More screen real estate to get a better sense of web layout? This 

could make
a difference if you're a web developer and need to verify the 

position of
text, but even then the difference is insignificant. I've got an 

iPad 4 that

I am not motivated enough to try to keep selling, but from my own
perspective, for a blind person the iPad is not the best 

investment of

money. Save up a little more and get a Mac Air.



Joe




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 

On Behalf

Of Kim
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: very basic iPad question


Thanks for your perspectives.  SO, let me ask this...why do you 

feel you

need an iPad in addition to your phone?



- Original Message -
From: "RobH!" 


Well, after some thought, I can't think of anything. Size can

matter and

speaker size and quality can matter, can listen to podcasts

better in that

respect,  but it is the same os, so it does all the same except

make  real

phone calls or natively make or send sms messages.   You can pair

any size

keyboard to the phone for quicker typing maybe,  and the screen

layout is

simpler, though some like the  more sophisticated gui layout on

the iPads.



Don't know if this helps, I have both!



Quite a few of us do in fact.



R.
- Original Message -
From: "Kim" 



Hi,



I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm
thinking about adding an iPad mini to my life.



What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?



Thank you,



Kim



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RE: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mark,

 

Correct me if I misunderstood or describe this incorrectly:

 

You can play something like music or an internet stream over the headset and
the audio stops playing when you unplug the headset?

 

If this describes the issue then this is normal behavior, unplugging the
headset will pause any music stream whether it's an online stream, music you
have on your device or an audio book playing via the Audible app. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark BurningHawk
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug
headset, sorta

 

What I have found out is that, if I start with the Ipad speakers playing, a
stream and VO will play, and then I can switch to a headset, but *NOT* the
other way around.  Just weirdness.

 

Mark BurningHawk

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Re: problems refreshing with the latest TweetList update

[Brett]

Hi,
I am only seeing this problem with the refresh issue in my main timeline. I 
don't see any issues when looking at lists.

Sent from Brett's iPhone

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>  
> So I updated TweetList earlier this morning on my 4S and since then, my 
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> myself with a three finger flick down or by clicking the refresh button in 
> the app. Has anyone else updated this app and have they experienced this 
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Skype On-screen keyboard for Ipad (IOS6.1) 3

[Mark BurningHawk]

Has anyone noticed that the on-screen keyboard for Skype's IM field is a weird, 
sort of squished shape, on the screen of the Ipad 3?  Is there a way to make it 
"normal," where the keyboard is stretched along the bottom of the screen?  
Entering full screen doesn't do this.  Thanks.


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sharing ringtones

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Is there a way to send a ring tone on my phone to another iphone user?
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otterbox defender replacement

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both my jell case and the screen protector are getting loose. Does anyone 
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Re: Any good accessible apps for N O A A Weather radio?

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I use IMap When set properly it will both text and play the alert.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
  To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:02 PM
  Subject: Any good accessible apps for N O A A Weather radio?


  Hi,

  I'm not looking for another weather app, but for an app that reliably and 
easily plays localized weather radio status, or text of same.

  Thanks in advance.

  Keith


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Problem with updating APPS using the IPhone APP Store

[Marcos Rodrigues]

Good evening all:

Since updating my IOS to 6.1, I am no longer able to update my APPS using the 
IPhone app store.

When I double tap on the update things, it seems like the new screen is 
updating (something like if a new page is being loaded) but nothing happens and 
I waited for more than ten minutes.

Is anybody else having this problem?

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RE: very basic iPad question

[Joe]

I wouldn't get an iPad Mini, or iPad of any kind, if you're happy with your
iPhone. Yeah, it's everyone's individual choice yadda yadda, but honestly,
I've got an iPad and an iPhone and the iPad just feels bulky and
unnecessary. Pair up your iPhone with a Bluetooth, and you're going to get
the exact same experience. Longer battery life? Not enough to make a
difference and not something one of the portable battery pakcs can't solve.
More screen real estate to get a better sense of web layout? This could make
a difference if you're a web developer and need to verify the position of
text, but even then the difference is insignificant. I've got an iPad 4 that
I am not motivated enough to try to keep selling, but from my own
perspective, for a blind person the iPad is not the best investment of
money. Save up a little more and get a Mac Air.

Joe


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kim
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: very basic iPad question

Thanks for your perspectives.  SO, let me ask this...why do you feel you
need an iPad in addition to your phone?

> - Original Message -
>From: "RobH!" To: Date sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:33:58 -
>Subject: Re: very basic iPad question

>Well, after some thought, I can't think of anything. Size can
matter and
>speaker size and quality can matter, can listen to podcasts
better in that
>respect,  but it is the same os, so it does all the same except
make  real
>phone calls or natively make or send sms messages.   You can pair 
any size
>keyboard to the phone for quicker typing maybe,  and the screen
layout is
>simpler, though some like the  more sophisticated gui layout on
the iPads.

>Don't know if this helps, I have both!

>Quite a few of us do in fact.

>R.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kim" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:44 PM
>Subject: very basic iPad question


>Hi,

>I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm
>thinking about adding an iPad mini to my life.

>What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?

>Thank you,

>Kim

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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Cheryl Homiak]

I'm definitely not saying that it can't be improved and that there aren't 
possibilities; I'm just saying that you do have more obvious and mathematically 
speaking more numerrous combinations with a fairly full keyboard of some kind 
than with some of the braille displays with few keys. But on the other hand, 
most people don't use standard keyboards by pressing combinations of letter 
keys at once and also there can be advantages to having fewer keys to keep 
track of and manipulate. So there are lots of considerations both ways here.

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On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
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> Hi.
> 
> There are a lot of possibilities on a brailledisplays with braille keys, also 
> on a braille display only with navigation keys, if apple may allow to use 
> more keys at a time.
> 
> In my opinion there are missing some devellopement here gennerely and in this 
> app speciffic.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I think we have to realize it can be challenging to be able to do 
>> everything with a device having eight keys and a joystick, like my 
>> refreshabraille, vs a bluetooth keyboard with a lot more keys.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mary.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you.
>>> 
>>> Apple is also making differences for keyboard users and braille users, 
>>> there are a great number of shortcuts you can not make with a braille 
>>> display, which you can make with a keyboard. It is in my opinion really 
>>> annoying.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe there has been some problems with making the same possibilities for 
>>> braille users because of the differences in keybords and braille displays 
>>> behaviour.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 Another comment on AccessNote, owners of the original iPad can't use the 
 app, which requires ios6. Now what, I wonder, is so special about this app 
 that it requires ios6? Interestingly, the description in the app store 
 gives no hint that the braille user's experience with respect to the 
 features of the app is not going to be equal to that of a speech user with 
 a bluetooth keyboard. For a blindness org to put out an app that does not 
 allow for equal experiences for braille users ought to be unacceptable 
 IMHO. Kind of like NFB and the first version of BLIO. It sounds like a 
 good app. I hope they update it quickly to provide an equal experience for 
 braille users and speech users. 
 
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re: lost twitter and facebook from notifications

[Joshua Klander]

Hello.  My guess is that you somehow disabled the share widget.  
To re-enable it, follow these steps:

1.  Go into settings and select "notifications."
2.  There should be a heading called "not in notification 
center."
3.  Under this heading, locate the item called "share widget," 
and double-tap it.
4.  Swipe to the right until you hear "notification center." This 
is a toggle, which is most likely disabled.  Double-tap to enable 
it.

hth
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- Original Message -
From: Jodie Hoger Hi Group.  For some reason, I have lost twitter and facebook from 
notifications so can't quickly use these features to post.  
Anyone able to help me put them back.  No idea what I have done - 
groan.

Thanks,
Jo - oh, still using 6.0.  Haven't updated yet.

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Re: access note, is it worth it?

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

For you who are not using braille it is worth the price I think. Braille users 
are in my opinion not getting enough for the money.

Best regards Annie.
On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:

> Hi, 
> I'm a totally blind iphone user. I use a bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone,  
> I don't use a Braille display. So what I was wondering, is access note worth 
> the $20?
> Courtney 
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re: access note, is it worth it?

[Joshua Klander]

Hello.  I have not tried AccessNote, and don't plan on doing so.  
In my opinion, a notetaking app is not worth $20.  There is a 
built-in Notes app in iOs, and if you want more features, I'm 
pretty sure that there are plenty of $0.99 alternatives on the 
App store.  This is just my opinion though.

Josh
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my iPhone,  I don't use a Braille display.  So what I was 
wondering, is access note worth the $20?

Courtney

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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

There are a lot of possibilities on a brailledisplays with braille keys, also 
on a braille display only with navigation keys, if apple may allow to use more 
keys at a time.

In my opinion there are missing some devellopement here gennerely and in this 
app speciffic.

Best regards Annie.
On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Yes, I think we have to realize it can be challenging to be able to do 
> everything with a device having eight keys and a joystick, like my 
> refreshabraille, vs a bluetooth keyboard with a lot more keys.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary.
>> 
>> I agree with you.
>> 
>> Apple is also making differences for keyboard users and braille users, there 
>> are a great number of shortcuts you can not make with a braille display, 
>> which you can make with a keyboard. It is in my opinion really annoying.
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe there has been some problems with making the same possibilities for 
>> braille users because of the differences in keybords and braille displays 
>> behaviour.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> Another comment on AccessNote, owners of the original iPad can't use the 
>>> app, which requires ios6. Now what, I wonder, is so special about this app 
>>> that it requires ios6? Interestingly, the description in the app store 
>>> gives no hint that the braille user's experience with respect to the 
>>> features of the app is not going to be equal to that of a speech user with 
>>> a bluetooth keyboard. For a blindness org to put out an app that does not 
>>> allow for equal experiences for braille users ought to be unacceptable 
>>> IMHO. Kind of like NFB and the first version of BLIO. It sounds like a good 
>>> app. I hope they update it quickly to provide an equal experience for 
>>> braille users and speech users. 
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: 1 last keyboard question, I hope

[Jennie Facer]

The verbatim keyboard does have this feature.
Jen

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> I read that the Verbatim keyboard has a button that activates the virtual 
> keyboard on the phone.  I assume this is so if one needs to do something 
> using gestures instead of the keyboard this would be easy to do.
> 
> I didn't see that the Logitech keyboard had this feature.  Does anyone know?  
> Or, is it really very important?
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Re: Specific Verbatim keyboard questions

[Kim]

Thank you.  I'm used to typing on a VoiceNote which is also 
small.


For those of you who are interested in the Logitech Easy Switch 
keyboard, I found it for $84 at www.pricewatch.com with free 
shipping.


Now 1 more question, I would assume that if I was writing a 
report using my iPhone and a keyboard that I would use an app 
such as the native note app on my phone and then save it to Drop 
Box or something of the like.  Is this true?


Kim


- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain 

Yes, the Verbatim keyboard has a switch to lock it in the open 

position,

so you can use it on your lap. I've gotten used to the key sizes,
position and fold. I think you'd also have to get used to using a
smaller keyboard as well. The only keyboards you wouldn't have to 

get
used to would be the full size keyboard, so you need to make some 

trade

offs between portability and familiarity of the keyboard layout.



On 30/01/13 16:35, Kim wrote:

Hi,


I've been reading reviews about the Verbatim folding keyboard, 

and the

Logitech easy switch keyboard.


For those of you who use the Verbatim keyboard, can you use it 

on your
lap, and can you use the keyboard and a BT ear piece at the same 

time?
For the most part have you been able to adjust to the varying 

key sizes?


Thanks,



Kim




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1 last keyboard question, I hope

[Kim]

I read that the Verbatim keyboard has a button that activates the 
virtual keyboard on the phone.  I assume this is so if one needs 
to do something using gestures instead of the keyboard this would 
be easy to do.


I didn't see that the Logitech keyboard had this feature.  Does 
anyone know?  Or, is it really very important?


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Solution to my IOS update problem of icons sayin "Wifi"

[Jon Pierson]

Hi,
Thanks to a really smart guy from Speed Dots, I tried labeling one of the
elements that was saying Wifi.

Just to summarize, the problem started happening after the latest IOS
release, anything I touched after focus had been in the dock, as well as the
icon showing what home page I was on, plus many controls in numerous apps
announced "Wifi" before the correct item.
I was told to try a 2-finger double tap & hold and to my surprise, the edit
box contained the word "Wifi". However, deleting the characters did no good
and I tried it several times. My next idea was replacing it with a space and
this did the trick.

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Re: Kaveat to Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

[Mark BurningHawk]

What I have found out is that, if I start with the Ipad speakers playing, a 
stream and VO will play, and then I can switch to a headset, but *NOT* the 
other way around.  Just weirdness.

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Re: Specific Verbatim keyboard questions

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Yes, the Verbatim keyboard has a switch to lock it in the open position,
so you can use it on your lap. I've gotten used to the key sizes,
position and fold. I think you'd also have to get used to using a
smaller keyboard as well. The only keyboards you wouldn't have to get
used to would be the full size keyboard, so you need to make some trade
offs between portability and familiarity of the keyboard layout.

On 30/01/13 16:35, Kim wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been reading reviews about the Verbatim folding keyboard, and the
> Logitech easy switch keyboard.
> 
> For those of you who use the Verbatim keyboard, can you use it on your
> lap, and can you use the keyboard and a BT ear piece at the same time? 
> For the most part have you been able to adjust to the varying key sizes?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kim
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Re: Specific Verbatim keyboard questions

[David Chittenden]

Bluetooth earpiece and keyboard can be used at the same time. 

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> Hi,
> 
> I've been reading reviews about the Verbatim folding keyboard, and the 
> Logitech easy switch keyboard.
> 
> For those of you who use the Verbatim keyboard, can you use it on your lap, 
> and can you use the keyboard and a BT ear piece at the same time?  For the 
> most part have you been able to adjust to the varying key sizes?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kim
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Re: access note, is it worth it?

[Cheryl Homiak]

I don't know! I do know that i'm looking at two possible $20 purchases here in 
the near future: AccessNote and BrailleTouch! Not that I'm complaining but I am 
going to have to think long and hard about what to buy and when to buy it. 
Well, actually I can BrailleTouch for $15 if I do it in the first few days. 
Every little bit helps!

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On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:

> Hi, 
> I'm a totally blind iphone user. I use a bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone,  
> I don't use a Braille display. So what I was wondering, is access note worth 
> the $20?
> Courtney 
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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yes, I think we have to realize it can be challenging to be able to do 
everything with a device having eight keys and a joystick, like my 
refreshabraille, vs a bluetooth keyboard with a lot more keys.

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On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
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> Hi Mary.
> 
> I agree with you.
> 
> Apple is also making differences for keyboard users and braille users, there 
> are a great number of shortcuts you can not make with a braille display, 
> which you can make with a keyboard. It is in my opinion really annoying.
> 
> 
> Maybe there has been some problems with making the same possibilities for 
> braille users because of the differences in keybords and braille displays 
> behaviour.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Another comment on AccessNote, owners of the original iPad can't use the 
>> app, which requires ios6. Now what, I wonder, is so special about this app 
>> that it requires ios6? Interestingly, the description in the app store gives 
>> no hint that the braille user's experience with respect to the features of 
>> the app is not going to be equal to that of a speech user with a bluetooth 
>> keyboard. For a blindness org to put out an app that does not allow for 
>> equal experiences for braille users ought to be unacceptable IMHO. Kind of 
>> like NFB and the first version of BLIO. It sounds like a good app. I hope 
>> they update it quickly to provide an equal experience for braille users and 
>> speech users. 
>> 
>> Mary
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>> Mary Otten
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lost twitter and facebook from notifications

[Jodie Hoger]

Hi Group. For some reason, I have lost twitter and facebook from notifications 
so can't quickly use these features to post. Anyone able to help me put them 
back. No idea what I have done - groan. 
Thanks, 
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Specific Verbatim keyboard questions

[Kim]

Hi,

I've been reading reviews about the Verbatim folding keyboard, 
and the Logitech easy switch keyboard.


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Thanks,

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access note, is it worth it?

[Moop Curran]

Hi, 
I'm a totally blind iphone user. I use a bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone,  I 
don't use a Braille display. So what I was wondering, is access note worth the 
$20?
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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

A great idea to let dot 7 or 8 together with a letter and space do the 
keystrokes. 
I have also bought the app. I really hope there will be some braille 
improvements soon.

Best regards Annie.
On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Jesper Holten  wrote:

> Hi.
> One idea could be to use dot 8 with chord and som letters, or dot 7-8
> with or without cord, to make commands. Just an idea. Though I do not
> know if that would conflict with any other braille table.
> I like the Interface though, and the fact that it keeps the cursor
> position is worth alot in my opinion, as far as I know this is not
> offered by any main stream notetaking app.
> 
> And I fully agree with you Mary that it is abit funny that AFB has not
> ensured fully equal features and specs for braille and keyboard users,
> even more so  when they at the same time on their website and in
> Access Worls promote the use of Braille. But lets hoepe this issue is
> quickly fixed.
> Best regards, Jesper.
> 
> On 1/30/13, Daniel K. Gartmann  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Adding to this. I tried switching to 6 dots braille in Danish and the
>> custom braille hot keys still don't work. Do they have to be defined for
>> each braille table or language?
>> 
>> Keep up the good work.
>> 
>> Looking forward to seeing this app evolve.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Den 30-01-2013 17:32, Jesper Holten skrev:
>>> Hi all.
>>> For a while I have been wating for AccessNote a Notetaker app from
>>> american Foundation for the Blind. And now the App is out for 20 US D.
>>> It is nice to have an app with a very sleek interface, and the cursor
>>> tracking seem to work. However the promissed commands are not all that
>>> usable especially if you use a braille display and if you happen to be
>>> an international user, the special keystrokes  they have included
>>> interfeers with those braille character sets where dot 8 are included.
>>>  Thus going to top of document surch etc, cannot be performed. This is
>>> a minor problem for me since I use the Us braille table most often,
>>> but still it is anoying.
>>> Furthermore, and this is even worse, you cannot jump by page or
>>> paragraph by using the braille display only an apple keyboard. I
>>> really hope this will be fixed soon, and I will be happy to assist if
>>> any help is needed.
>>> 
>>> Is the app worth buying. Yes I think it is if not  for anything else,
>>> then for the fact that the cursor stays where you left it in the note,
>>> which is something I have greatly missed.
>>> I hope the qwerty and braille commands can be updated so they offer
>>> the same functionallity and it would also be good if a solution for
>>> the shortcuts interfeering with certain none english braille tables
>>> can be found.
>>> for more information about the app see below link:
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/.../app/accessnote/id591287188?... -
>>> Filippinerne
>>> Best regards, Jesper Holten.
>>> 
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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Mary.

I agree with you.

Apple is also making differences for keyboard users and braille users, there 
are a great number of shortcuts you can not make with a braille display, which 
you can make with a keyboard. It is in my opinion really annoying.


Maybe there has been some problems with making the same possibilities for 
braille users because of the differences in keybords and braille displays 
behaviour.

Best regards Annie.
On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Another comment on AccessNote, owners of the original iPad can't use the app, 
> which requires ios6. Now what, I wonder, is so special about this app that it 
> requires ios6? Interestingly, the description in the app store gives no hint 
> that the braille user's experience with respect to the features of the app is 
> not going to be equal to that of a speech user with a bluetooth keyboard. For 
> a blindness org to put out an app that does not allow for equal experiences 
> for braille users ought to be unacceptable IMHO. Kind of like NFB and the 
> first version of BLIO. It sounds like a good app. I hope they update it 
> quickly to provide an equal experience for braille users and speech users. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
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Ipad 3 speakers not playing out loud, only throug headset, sorta

[Mark BurningHawk]

Until now, I've only ever played VoiceOver through my Ipad 3's external 
speakers.  I've used it to stream TV and play other music through the headset 
jack, but never played music or TV out loud.  Today, I tried to hear a TV 
stream through my Ipad's speakers, but heard nothing *EXCEPT* VoiceOver.  VO 
was audible, but the stream content was not.  When I plugged the headset back 
in, I still couldn't hear anything except VoiceOver; the media stream was muted.

What's going on here?
Thanks. :)


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RE: curiosity question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jonathan,

Maybe if you sync directly with Outlook, I sync directly to the Windows Live
account and for my business email I use Office 365 which is full hosted
Exchange and it doesn't work there, either.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: curiosity question

Interesting. I sync my contacts with Microsoft Outlook, and relationships
work in that scenario.

Jonathan
On 30/01/2013, at 6:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Alan and Joseph,
> 
> Except you have to qualify this statement since relationships don't 
> necessarily work depending on who you do your contacts with. I use 
> Windows Live/Hotmail and I can't tell SIRI for example that so and so 
> is my Mom or my brother etc. If I do SIRI asks if I want her to 
> remember that so and so is my mother and when I say Yes, I get the
following message:
> "The address book service that stores your contact information doesn't 
> allow me to change that".
> I don't know if it works for people who use Google to store their 
> contacts or if it only works for those who actually use Apple/iCloud.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: re: curiosity question
> 
> Hi,
> This is done through "relationships" - a label for a contact that you 
> can set on Siri to tell who your spouse is.  This is done from 
> Settings/General/Siri.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan Paganelli"  To:  Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:34:22 -0800
> Subject: curiosity question
> 
> Sense I have the iPhone 4, it doesn't have SIRI but I was wondering 
> about something and figure you could satisfy my curiosity.  On the 
> commercials and the demos of SIRI you hear some guy tell SIRI, text my 
> wife and tell her that I'm on my way home.  My question is, would you 
> have to create a new contact named my wife or is there some sort of preset
for spouses?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Lee"  To:  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:31 PM
> Subject: re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, you can say:
> Call (someone) at (someplace)
> where "someone" is the contact name and "someplace" is the phone 
> number type e.g.  home, mobile, iPhone, etc.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."  To: "'viphone@googlegroups.com'"  Tue,
> 29 Jan 2013 02:21:51 +
> Subject: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a default?
> If calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, how does one 
> specify this for Siri?
> 
> Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, call Bill 
> at work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?
> 
> Thanks in advance.  Keith
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Re: iPod 4th generation frozen during 6.1 upgrade

[Bob Hill]

I got it sorted out.
Restarted the computer, reconnected the iPod, held power and home, then just 
home, for 10 seconds. iTunes came up and told me the iPod was in recovery mode.
I had to restore the device and it's good to go.

Bob


Sent from Bob's iPhone

On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:35 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> That happened with my iPhone 4. I experimented and left my iPhone connected 
> to my Mac with iTunes running in the background whilst I did other things. 
> After a couple hours, my iPhone 4 started working again.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 31/01/2013, at 2:33, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
>> The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
>> anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
>> I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
>> Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device "unstuck"?
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Bob Hill
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RE: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

[Kliphton]

On the Logitech one I don't know yet as it hasn't arrived.  On the second
one, there is a pairing button right next to the on off switch, you hold it
for 2 seconds, and your device finds it.

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Of Blind Treasures 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

Would you happen to know the key layout on this bt keyboard? What is the
procedure for paring? I'm thinking about purchasing one myself. 


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Of Kliphton
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

I checked it out, and just ordered it.  Here is the link
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp
/B0099SMFVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359558360&sr=8-1&keywords=LOGITECH+EASY+
SWITCH

Got great reviews too.  Here is the link to the one I will be retiring.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PCANUA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

The difference between this one, and the Logitech one, is it can pair with 4
devices, it takes 2 triple A battery's, and also is a little lighter.  As
for the battery's, I have had mine for almost 6 months, and have never had
to change the battery's.  The Logitech keyboard is charged by USB.  HTH



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Maria And Joe
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

Hi. If  you happen to check this out, or if you know of anyone that does,
please pass on a review.  I have a mac, an iphone, and an ipad.  I'm not
sure how to disconnect the keyboard from the mac if I want to use it with
the ipad or iphone.  I don't have a usb keyboard attached to the mac so I
just shut the mac down then I can connect it to the ipad. 
I am thinking seriously of getting another keyboard for the ipad, but  if
there is one that will switch, well.


Maria, Joe and Karly.

email: bubbygirl1972@gmail.comSent from my iPad

On 30/01/2013, at 6:02 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> I read last week about a new product called the Logitech Easy Switch
keyboard. It has buttons that allow you to switch between 3 devices, so you
can have them all paired, and just press a button to switch to the one you
want to control. Sounds quite nifty.
> Jonathan
> On 30/01/2013, at 3:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, to add more to this, if you have a keyboard which supports 
>> multiple
Bluetooth profiles, then it can be paired with more than one device.
Unfortunately keyboards like the Apple one and the Amazon one are for only
one device at a time.
>> 
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>> On 1/19/2013 10:42 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hi. You are correct. You do have to unpair it with the first device.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Carol Pearson
 wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Am I right in thinking that you have to unpair the Apple keyboard 
 in
order to pair (for use) with another Apple device?  I can understand why you
can't be writing on more than one item, but I'd like to be able to swap and
change easily so would appreciate an answer to this, please.
 
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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Jesper Holten]

Hi.
One idea could be to use dot 8 with chord and som letters, or dot 7-8
with or without cord, to make commands. Just an idea. Though I do not
know if that would conflict with any other braille table.
I like the Interface though, and the fact that it keeps the cursor
position is worth alot in my opinion, as far as I know this is not
offered by any main stream notetaking app.

And I fully agree with you Mary that it is abit funny that AFB has not
ensured fully equal features and specs for braille and keyboard users,
even more so  when they at the same time on their website and in
Access Worls promote the use of Braille. But lets hoepe this issue is
quickly fixed.
Best regards, Jesper.

On 1/30/13, Daniel K. Gartmann  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Adding to this. I tried switching to 6 dots braille in Danish and the
> custom braille hot keys still don't work. Do they have to be defined for
> each braille table or language?
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
> Looking forward to seeing this app evolve.
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
>   Den 30-01-2013 17:32, Jesper Holten skrev:
>> Hi all.
>> For a while I have been wating for AccessNote a Notetaker app from
>> american Foundation for the Blind. And now the App is out for 20 US D.
>> It is nice to have an app with a very sleek interface, and the cursor
>> tracking seem to work. However the promissed commands are not all that
>> usable especially if you use a braille display and if you happen to be
>> an international user, the special keystrokes  they have included
>> interfeers with those braille character sets where dot 8 are included.
>>   Thus going to top of document surch etc, cannot be performed. This is
>> a minor problem for me since I use the Us braille table most often,
>> but still it is anoying.
>> Furthermore, and this is even worse, you cannot jump by page or
>> paragraph by using the braille display only an apple keyboard. I
>> really hope this will be fixed soon, and I will be happy to assist if
>> any help is needed.
>>
>> Is the app worth buying. Yes I think it is if not  for anything else,
>> then for the fact that the cursor stays where you left it in the note,
>> which is something I have greatly missed.
>> I hope the qwerty and braille commands can be updated so they offer
>> the same functionallity and it would also be good if a solution for
>> the shortcuts interfeering with certain none english braille tables
>> can be found.
>> for more information about the app see below link:
>> https://itunes.apple.com/.../app/accessnote/id591287188?... -
>> Filippinerne
>> Best regards, Jesper Holten.
>>
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Re: iPod 4th generation frozen during 6.1 upgrade

[David Chittenden]

That happened with my iPhone 4. I experimented and left my iPhone connected to 
my Mac with iTunes running in the background whilst I did other things. After a 
couple hours, my iPhone 4 started working again.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 31/01/2013, at 2:33, Robert Hill  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
> The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
> anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
> I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
> Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device "unstuck"?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Bob Hill
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RE: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

[Blind Treasures]

Would you happen to know the key layout on this bt keyboard? What is the
procedure for paring? I'm thinking about purchasing one myself. 


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Of Kliphton
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

I checked it out, and just ordered it.  Here is the link
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp
/B0099SMFVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359558360&sr=8-1&keywords=LOGITECH+EASY+
SWITCH

Got great reviews too.  Here is the link to the one I will be retiring.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PCANUA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

The difference between this one, and the Logitech one, is it can pair with 4
devices, it takes 2 triple A battery's, and also is a little lighter.  As
for the battery's, I have had mine for almost 6 months, and have never had
to change the battery's.  The Logitech keyboard is charged by USB.  HTH



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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

Hi. If  you happen to check this out, or if you know of anyone that does,
please pass on a review.  I have a mac, an iphone, and an ipad.  I'm not
sure how to disconnect the keyboard from the mac if I want to use it with
the ipad or iphone.  I don't have a usb keyboard attached to the mac so I
just shut the mac down then I can connect it to the ipad. 
I am thinking seriously of getting another keyboard for the ipad, but  if
there is one that will switch, well.


Maria, Joe and Karly.

email: bubbygirl1972@gmail.comSent from my iPad

On 30/01/2013, at 6:02 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> I read last week about a new product called the Logitech Easy Switch
keyboard. It has buttons that allow you to switch between 3 devices, so you
can have them all paired, and just press a button to switch to the one you
want to control. Sounds quite nifty.
> Jonathan
> On 30/01/2013, at 3:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, to add more to this, if you have a keyboard which supports 
>> multiple
Bluetooth profiles, then it can be paired with more than one device.
Unfortunately keyboards like the Apple one and the Amazon one are for only
one device at a time.
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>> On 1/19/2013 10:42 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hi. You are correct. You do have to unpair it with the first device.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Carol Pearson
 wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Am I right in thinking that you have to unpair the Apple keyboard 
 in
order to pair (for use) with another Apple device?  I can understand why you
can't be writing on more than one item, but I'd like to be able to swap and
change easily so would appreciate an answer to this, please.
 
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Re: Notification list

[David Chittenden]

I believe badge is the bit of information that appears next to the icon for the 
app on the home screen. An example is when a news app gets new stories, the 
badge pops up displaying that number of new items.

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Sent from my iPhone

On 31/01/2013, at 2:23, "Bill Gallik"  wrote:

> Keith,
> 
> Don't feel badly about asking, I for one am glad you have because I too am a 
> bit confused as to the various subtleties between the three forms.  And 
> frankly I don't find the brief explanations in the SETTINGS dialogs 
> truthfully all that helpful; especially regarding "batch."  I see one list 
> member was kind enough to explain alerts and banners which truthfully is 
> reasonably explained in the SETTINGS dialogs, but whatever is meant by 
> "batch" escapes my meager ability to understand.  I certainly know what a 
> batch in typical English means, but just how does it apply to information 
> being displayed on an iPhone?
> 
> Holland's Person, Bill
> - "Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?"
> - George Carlin, 1937 - 2008 
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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Daniel K. Gartmann]

Hi,

Adding to this. I tried switching to 6 dots braille in Danish and the 
custom braille hot keys still don't work. Do they have to be defined for 
each braille table or language?


Keep up the good work.

Looking forward to seeing this app evolve.

Daniel





 Den 30-01-2013 17:32, Jesper Holten skrev:

Hi all.
For a while I have been wating for AccessNote a Notetaker app from
american Foundation for the Blind. And now the App is out for 20 US D.
It is nice to have an app with a very sleek interface, and the cursor
tracking seem to work. However the promissed commands are not all that
usable especially if you use a braille display and if you happen to be
an international user, the special keystrokes  they have included
interfeers with those braille character sets where dot 8 are included.
  Thus going to top of document surch etc, cannot be performed. This is
a minor problem for me since I use the Us braille table most often,
but still it is anoying.
Furthermore, and this is even worse, you cannot jump by page or
paragraph by using the braille display only an apple keyboard. I
really hope this will be fixed soon, and I will be happy to assist if
any help is needed.

Is the app worth buying. Yes I think it is if not  for anything else,
then for the fact that the cursor stays where you left it in the note,
which is something I have greatly missed.
I hope the qwerty and braille commands can be updated so they offer
the same functionallity and it would also be good if a solution for
the shortcuts interfeering with certain none english braille tables
can be found.
for more information about the app see below link:
https://itunes.apple.com/.../app/accessnote/id591287188?... - Filippinerne
Best regards, Jesper Holten.



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Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

[Peter Holdstock]

If I’ve understood your problem correctly that doesn’t sound like a bug but 
would be normal. Even though someone types English text, if they are in another 
country the text will be encoded in their local alnguage unless they change it 
(there is no way to do that as a user in most apps). It’s just voice over using 
the correct synthesiser for the language it thinks you are reading. It happens 
to me as well. Just use the rotor to change from the default voice to whichever 
voice you want to read the content with. The default will always change the 
synthesiser on the fly as it needs to.

Peter

From: Robert Fenton 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Cc: accessibil...@apple.com 
Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 and accessibility from Applevis

Hello everybody:

The bug I experienced with reading webpages and email messages generated 
outside of the United States in languages other than English still exists when 
the US English voice is selected as the default. When this kind of content is 
accessed, VoiceOver will attempt to read it in the language of the country 
where the email or website is generated from this even happens if the message 
is written in English. However, if you switch the voice to British English or 
Australian English, the message reads fine. I do still do not have an 
explanation for this problem. I Will copy Apple accessibility on this message 
to see if we can get an answer. I will keep you posted.

Bob Fenton 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-01-28, at 2:07 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


  Check this out

  
http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy/ios-61-accessibility-bug-list-fixed-unfixed-and-new-bugs

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Re: opening an pdf file from mail on IPhone.

[David Chittenden]

I am sorry, I do not understand your question.

To open any document in mail, merely double tap the name of the document. If it 
is a large file, the iDevice will first download the file before the file can 
be opened.

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On 30/01/2013, at 20:46, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I had a problem in the night when I tried to open a PDF file from my mail on 
> my IPhone with IOS 6.1.
> 
> I could not find the option button or what it is called in english. I had to 
> open with  another program. I found it at last but I can not tell how I did 
> it. I am using braille display. How are you doing that?
> 
> Best regards Annie.
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Re: AccessNote is out but there are a few catches for braille users.

[Mary Otten]

Another comment on AccessNote, owners of the original iPad can't use the app, 
which requires ios6. Now what, I wonder, is so special about this app that it 
requires ios6? Interestingly, the description in the app store gives no hint 
that the braille user's experience with respect to the features of the app is 
not going to be equal to that of a speech user with a bluetooth keyboard. For a 
blindness org to put out an app that does not allow for equal experiences for 
braille users ought to be unacceptable IMHO. Kind of like NFB and the first 
version of BLIO. It sounds like a good app. I hope they update it quickly to 
provide an equal experience for braille users and speech users. 

Mary

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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I never got a notification.  I did how ever check manually for updates and 
grabed it that way.  I was how ever asking if ios notifies you if ythere is an 
uupdate at some point.  Just going to clear things up there on that frunt.

Matthew


On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:09 AM, BBS wrote:

> Hi. I am connected to iCloud and I didn't receive a notification about the 
> update. That other post about waiting for a notification doesn't make sense 
> because Matthew Dire said that he got a notification right away when the 
> update was released. So do you have to tell iCloud to push those kinds of 
> notifications to your phone?
> 
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Re: curiosity question

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, it's similar if you use Google contacts. However a workaround this 
is you can add the relationship as the nick name. So, this way you can 
add girlfriend, wife, daughter, son, grandma, ETC to the nickname of 
each contact and it works. You can't do this with Siri, but it still 
works by doing it manually.


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On 1/29/2013 11:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Alan and Joseph,

Except you have to qualify this statement since relationships don't
necessarily work depending on who you do your contacts with. I use Windows
Live/Hotmail and I can't tell SIRI for example that so and so is my Mom or
my brother etc. If I do SIRI asks if I want her to remember that so and so
is my mother and when I say Yes, I get the following message:
"The address book service that stores your contact information doesn't allow
me to change that".
I don't know if it works for people who use Google to store their contacts
or if it only works for those who actually use Apple/iCloud.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: re: curiosity question

Hi,
This is done through "relationships" - a label for a contact that you can
set on Siri to tell who your spouse is.  This is done from
Settings/General/Siri.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Re: Facebook App Latest Update

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,


I still have a problem with status updates being skipped with voice over.  If I 
use the site directly on my computer than I I can see all the updates.  Any one 
here have the same problem?  Refreshing does nothing for me.

Matthew


On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:45 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:

> Yep...this latest update sucks! I could live with the status update 
> inconvenience if I had to, but what I am really peeved about is that I can no 
> longer post on someone's wall using the ap...it takes me into the camera and 
> the compose button is dimmed! SMH! 
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Shane clark
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Facebook App Latest Update
> 
> Hi,
> It does the same thing with the onscreen keyboard too. What I do is type a 
> few words, then slide my finger slowly from the keyboard, till I hear Vo say 
> what I wrote. Doing it that way will also get Vo to read people's name for 
> who you're tagging too. You could also open notification center, and post to 
> Fb that way as well. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:28 AM, "CD"  wrote:
> 
>> I updated the regular facebook app last night and now when I type a status 
>> my Bluetooth keyboard doesn’t speak as I type with VO.  If any of you have 
>> experienced this is there a work around?  Thanks.
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Re: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

[Sagar]

hey fokes i just bort the apple bluetooth keyboard today its very nice im 
enjoying it i have iphone4s and ipad2 wifi only anyways the apple bt keyboard 
is very good for typing infact im using it now to type this mesage.have fun 
fokes,enjoy.hthh

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 30, 2013, at 23:20, "Kliphton"  wrote:

> I checked it out, and just ordered it.  Here is the link
> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp
> /B0099SMFVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359558360&sr=8-1&keywords=LOGITECH+EASY+
> SWITCH
> 
> Got great reviews too.  Here is the link to the one I will be retiring.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PCANUA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
> 
> The difference between this one, and the Logitech one, is it can pair with 4
> devices, it takes 2 triple A battery's, and also is a little lighter.  As
> for the battery's, I have had mine for almost 6 months, and have never had
> to change the battery's.  The Logitech keyboard is charged by USB.  HTH
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Maria And Joe
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM
> 
> Hi. If  you happen to check this out, or if you know of anyone that does,
> please pass on a review.  I have a mac, an iphone, and an ipad.  I'm not
> sure how to disconnect the keyboard from the mac if I want to use it with
> the ipad or iphone.  I don't have a usb keyboard attached to the mac so I
> just shut the mac down then I can connect it to the ipad. 
> I am thinking seriously of getting another keyboard for the ipad, but  if
> there is one that will switch, well.
> 
> 
> Maria, Joe and Karly.
> 
> email: bubbygirl1972@gmail.comSent from my iPad
> 
> On 30/01/2013, at 6:02 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
>> I read last week about a new product called the Logitech Easy Switch
> keyboard. It has buttons that allow you to switch between 3 devices, so you
> can have them all paired, and just press a button to switch to the one you
> want to control. Sounds quite nifty.
>> Jonathan
>> On 30/01/2013, at 3:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, to add more to this, if you have a keyboard which supports multiple
> Bluetooth profiles, then it can be paired with more than one device.
> Unfortunately keyboards like the Apple one and the Amazon one are for only
> one device at a time.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex 
>>> for money usually costs a lot less. - Brendan Behan Home Page: 
>>> http://raulgallegos.com
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>>> 
>>> On 1/19/2013 10:42 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Hi. You are correct. You do have to unpair it with the first device.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Carol Pearson
>  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> Am I right in thinking that you have to unpair the Apple keyboard in
> order to pair (for use) with another Apple device?  I can understand why you
> can't be writing on more than one item, but I'd like to be able to swap and
> change easily so would appreciate an answer to this, please.
> 
> Carol P
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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

At first, you'll only get the update if you check for updates. But at some 
point, you'll get notified if an update is out and you don't have it. I don't 
think iCloud has anything to do with it.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:

> I have an iPhone 5, and do not get these notifications.
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out
> 
> Hi,
> 
> No need to set it up; it happens automatically.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:49 AM, BBS  wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I didn't know that you could have your iPhone notify you when there's an 
>> update for it. How do I set this up?
>> 
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RE: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

[Kliphton]

I checked it out, and just ordered it.  Here is the link
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp
/B0099SMFVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359558360&sr=8-1&keywords=LOGITECH+EASY+
SWITCH

Got great reviews too.  Here is the link to the one I will be retiring.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PCANUA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

The difference between this one, and the Logitech one, is it can pair with 4
devices, it takes 2 triple A battery's, and also is a little lighter.  As
for the battery's, I have had mine for almost 6 months, and have never had
to change the battery's.  The Logitech keyboard is charged by USB.  HTH



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Maria And Joe
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

Hi. If  you happen to check this out, or if you know of anyone that does,
please pass on a review.  I have a mac, an iphone, and an ipad.  I'm not
sure how to disconnect the keyboard from the mac if I want to use it with
the ipad or iphone.  I don't have a usb keyboard attached to the mac so I
just shut the mac down then I can connect it to the ipad. 
I am thinking seriously of getting another keyboard for the ipad, but  if
there is one that will switch, well.


Maria, Joe and Karly.

email: bubbygirl1972@gmail.comSent from my iPad

On 30/01/2013, at 6:02 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> I read last week about a new product called the Logitech Easy Switch
keyboard. It has buttons that allow you to switch between 3 devices, so you
can have them all paired, and just press a button to switch to the one you
want to control. Sounds quite nifty.
> Jonathan
> On 30/01/2013, at 3:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, to add more to this, if you have a keyboard which supports multiple
Bluetooth profiles, then it can be paired with more than one device.
Unfortunately keyboards like the Apple one and the Amazon one are for only
one device at a time.
>> 
>> --
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>> The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex 
>> for money usually costs a lot less. - Brendan Behan Home Page: 
>> http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>> 
>> On 1/19/2013 10:42 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hi. You are correct. You do have to unpair it with the first device.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Carol Pearson
 wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Am I right in thinking that you have to unpair the Apple keyboard in
order to pair (for use) with another Apple device?  I can understand why you
can't be writing on more than one item, but I'd like to be able to swap and
change easily so would appreciate an answer to this, please.
 
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Re: curiosity question

[Jonathan Mosen]

Interesting. I sync my contacts with Microsoft Outlook, and relationships work 
in that scenario.

Jonathan
On 30/01/2013, at 6:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Alan and Joseph,
> 
> Except you have to qualify this statement since relationships don't
> necessarily work depending on who you do your contacts with. I use Windows
> Live/Hotmail and I can't tell SIRI for example that so and so is my Mom or
> my brother etc. If I do SIRI asks if I want her to remember that so and so
> is my mother and when I say Yes, I get the following message:
> "The address book service that stores your contact information doesn't allow
> me to change that".
> I don't know if it works for people who use Google to store their contacts
> or if it only works for those who actually use Apple/iCloud.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: re: curiosity question
> 
> Hi,
> This is done through "relationships" - a label for a contact that you can
> set on Siri to tell who your spouse is.  This is done from
> Settings/General/Siri.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan Paganelli"  To:  Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:34:22 -0800
> Subject: curiosity question
> 
> Sense I have the iPhone 4, it doesn't have SIRI but I was wondering about
> something and figure you could satisfy my curiosity.  On the commercials and
> the demos of SIRI you hear some guy tell SIRI, text my wife and tell her
> that I'm on my way home.  My question is, would you have to create a new
> contact named my wife or is there some sort of preset for spouses?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Lee"  To:  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:31 PM
> Subject: re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, you can say:
> Call (someone) at (someplace)
> where "someone" is the contact name and "someplace" is the phone number
> type e.g.  home, mobile, iPhone, etc.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."  To: "'viphone@googlegroups.com'"  29 Jan 2013 02:21:51 +
> Subject: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a default?
> If calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, how does one
> specify this for Siri?
> 
> Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, call Bill at
> work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?
> 
> Thanks in advance.  Keith
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Re: curiosity question

[Jonathan Mosen]

I think relationships are a minor worry compared with a lot of the personal 
information many people have on their devices. It's critical for this reason 
that devices are password protected, preferably with a strong alpha-numeric 
password. Also that Find my iPhone is enabled so you can track the phone down 
and erase it if necessary. The feature to erase all contents if the password is 
entered incorrectly 10 times is also a good safeguard.

Jonathan
On 30/01/2013, at 3:38 PM, Tess  wrote:

> The down side of placing relationships is the thought that if someone steals
> your phone, they know who your relations are.
> This could then have identity theft to it.
> Or call a family member up say they have kidnapped you and require a ransom.
> etc.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: curiosity question
> 
> Very good suggestion!  I don't plan on changing wives but I haven't got my 
> new iPhone yet either.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: curiosity question
> 
> 
>> You can tell Siri about the relationships you have in your contacts. It 
>> then adds that information to  the contacts so the associations are 
>> correct.
>> 
>> For example, say, Call me Master Jedi. Siri will then refer to you as 
>> Master Jedi. Then you can say, call my wife. Siri will ask you who your 
>> wife is. Then say your wife's name and Siri will remember that for the 
>> future. Then just remember to change that information when you change 
>> wives.
>> 
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>> Thank God I'm an atheist. - Luis Bunuel
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>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>> 
>> On 1/29/2013 12:34 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
>>> Sense I have the iPhone 4, it doesn't have SIRI but I was wondering
>>> about something and figure you could satisfy my curiosity.  On the
>>> commercials and the demos of SIRI you hear some guy tell SIRI, text my
>>> wife and tell her that I'm on my way home.  My question is, would you
>>> have to create a new contact named my wife or is there some sort of
>>> preset for spouses?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Joseph Lee" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:31 PM
>>> Subject: re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi,
 Yes, you can say:
 Call (someone) at (someplace)
 where "someone" is the contact name and "someplace" is the phone
 number type e.g.  home, mobile, iPhone, etc.
 Cheers,
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." >>> To: "'viphone@googlegroups.com'" >>> Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:21:51 +
 Subject: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?
 
 Hi,
 
 If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a
 default? If calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, how
 does one specify this for Siri?
 
 Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, call Bill
 at work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?
 
 Thanks in advance.  Keith
 
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Re: iPod 4th generation frozen during 6.1 upgrade

[Steve]

Bob,

Hold down the home button after connecting the USB cable. The computer 
should recognized the USB connection and iTunes opened. Then you should be 
able to restore and update the IOS to 6.1.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

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From: "Robert Hill" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:33 AM
Subject: iPod 4th generation frozen during 6.1 upgrade



Hi all,

I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.

I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device "unstuck"?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Bob Hill

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RE: question about the drop box app and sharing files

[Shawn Keen]

Hi,

I just went to a zip file in my drop box and found the share button on the
bottom of the screen third swipe over from the right corner.

Now, something I have had trouble with in db is.  When I play a video and it
is in my favorites. I get the message that you can only stream 15 minutes of
a file and to see the whole thing add it to your favorites. But it already
is in my favorites.



  

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Subject: question about the dropbox app and sharing files

I use to be able to share individual files with the older dropbox app, but
since they have updated the app, I'm unable to find a share button.
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Re: Notification list

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Badge, huh? And here I thought VoiceOver was drinking!  Well, I have to say, 
the explanation makes a lot more sense to me now.


Gees, THANKS A BUNCH Teresa!

Holland's Person, Bill
- "Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?"
- George Carlin, 1937 - 2008
-Original Message- 
From: Teresa Cochran

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Subject: Re: Notification list

Hi, Bill,

It's actually badge, b a d g e. A badge in that context is a piece of 
information displayed in a static way. For example, when you go to a folder 
on your home screen and it shows the number of apps in that folder, that is 
very similar to the way a badge displays information.


HtH,
Teresa


On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:23 AM, "Bill Gallik"  wrote:


Keith,

Don't feel badly about asking, I for one am glad you have because I too am 
a bit confused as to the various subtleties between the three forms.  And 
frankly I don't find the brief explanations in the SETTINGS dialogs 
truthfully all that helpful; especially regarding "batch."  I see one list 
member was kind enough to explain alerts and banners which truthfully is 
reasonably explained in the SETTINGS dialogs, but whatever is meant by 
"batch" escapes my meager ability to understand.  I certainly know what a 
batch in typical English means, but just how does it apply to information 
being displayed on an iPhone?


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Re: iPod 4th generation frozen during 6.1 upgrade

[Jose Lomeli]

This happen to me before hit the home and power button for about 10
seconds continue holding the home button only for about 10 seconds
this puts the iPod in recovery mode windows or OS X should tell you
that it is in recovery mode. Just restore the iPod. Hope this helps
let me know your results.

Sent from my iPod

On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Robert Hill  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
> The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do 
> anything with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
> I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
> Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device "unstuck"?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Bob Hill
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iPod 4th generation frozen during 6.1 upgrade

[Robert Hill]

Hi all,

I attempted to upgrade my wife's iPod 4th generation to iOS 6.1.
The device froze after it was supposed to reboot, and now we can't do anything 
with it, no shut down, no reset, etc.
I tried connecting it to my Macintosh  , but iTunes doesn't recognize it.
Is there any keystroke combination  to get the device "unstuck"?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Bob Hill

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Re: Notification list

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Hi, Bill,

It's actually badge, b a d g e. A badge in that context is a piece of 
information displayed in a static way. For example, when you go to a folder on 
your home screen and it shows the number of apps in that folder, that is very 
similar to the way a badge displays information.

HtH,
Teresa


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> Keith,
> 
> Don't feel badly about asking, I for one am glad you have because I too am a 
> bit confused as to the various subtleties between the three forms.  And 
> frankly I don't find the brief explanations in the SETTINGS dialogs 
> truthfully all that helpful; especially regarding "batch."  I see one list 
> member was kind enough to explain alerts and banners which truthfully is 
> reasonably explained in the SETTINGS dialogs, but whatever is meant by 
> "batch" escapes my meager ability to understand.  I certainly know what a 
> batch in typical English means, but just how does it apply to information 
> being displayed on an iPhone?
> 
> Holland's Person, Bill
> - "Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?"
> - George Carlin, 1937 - 2008 
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Re: Notification list

[Bill Gallik]

Keith,

Don't feel badly about asking, I for one am glad you have because I too am a 
bit confused as to the various subtleties between the three forms.  And 
frankly I don't find the brief explanations in the SETTINGS dialogs 
truthfully all that helpful; especially regarding "batch."  I see one list 
member was kind enough to explain alerts and banners which truthfully is 
reasonably explained in the SETTINGS dialogs, but whatever is meant by 
"batch" escapes my meager ability to understand.  I certainly know what a 
batch in typical English means, but just how does it apply to information 
being displayed on an iPhone?


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Re: Write 2 is free today

[Kliphton A M]

What is the difference in this app, compared to the notes app built in to all 
of our devices already?
On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:09 AM, "Emilio S. Hernandez" 
 wrote:

> 
> Write 2 - The Best Note Taking & Writing App by Daniel V.W
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/write-2-best-note-taking-writing/id426253668?mt=8
> 
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Re: Mac OS

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

wow, this is a very large and open ended question.

Mac accessibility is comprehensive and of a good quality. you can read more 
about it at:

www.apple.com/accessibility

you can format a MacBook and install OSx again should you wish to.



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On 30 Jan 2013, at 13:05, dr.abdull...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello i want to kno about Mac accesibilitty also I want to no if I can format 
> MacBook or no 
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Re: Navigon question, please help.

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

The Map Manager is the tab you need to be in, its the 3rd or 4th tab in from 
the bottom left on the iPhone. different if you are using Navigon on the iPad.

Within here, I have found that simply flicking left to right does not inform 
you which map is downloaded or marked for it.

So, find the maps you defenately want, and double tap, now, physically drag 
your finder down the screen and you'll find Voice Over will additionally tell 
you if the map is marked for download or not.



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On 28 Jan 2013, at 22:15, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> You have only downloaded the maps who is marked. For instance, if you double 
> tap on a map it will download or remove. The name of the countries are only 
> buttons, empty. Until you tell them to download or remove. In map manager at 
> the bottom ofthe screen.
> 
> Take care 
> 
> Den 28. jan. 2013 kl. 16:57 skrev "Eileen Misrahi" :
> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I can only talk for Navigon USA, but at the bottom right (I believe) there
>> is a tab called "Map Manager." Tap on that. It will open the screen where
>> you have all the maps downloaded. When I first installed the app, I was able
>> to control which maps to install with Navigon. I have "TomTom" for w.
>> Europe, and all the maps were downloaded. I didn't have this option. Take a
>> look and see if you can delete the maps that you don't use. HTH. 
>> 
>> Eileen 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Navigon question, please help.
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> I have been using Navigon Europe.
>> My question is how can I see what maps (countries) are downloaded on my
>> iphone and in case I do not want the map of a certain country, How can I
>> remove it from the phone??
>> Thank you very much for your help.
>> Maria
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Mac OS

[dr . abdullah6]

Hello i want to kno about Mac accesibilitty also I want to no if I can format 
MacBook or no 

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question about the dropbox app and sharing files

[Melissa Tucker]

I use to be able to share individual files with the older dropbox app, but 
since they have updated the app, I'm unable to find a share button.  Shouldn't 
I be able to share zip files?  thanks.

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Write 2 is free today

[Emilio S. Hernandez]

Write 2 - The Best Note Taking & Writing App by Daniel V.W
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/write-2-best-note-taking-writing/id426253668?mt=8





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Re: Airport Express!!!

[Don Breda]

The usb port on the airport express is for attaching a printer.

You can not use it for attaching a hard drive, it doesn't support that.

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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

[David Chittenden]

No, the update notification happens automatically. It happens when the iOS 
device connects with the server. If checking is the same as iTunes, it happens 
once every few days or when manually triggered in settings, general, updates. 

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On 30/01/2013, at 22:09, BBS  wrote:

> Hi. I am connected to iCloud and I didn't receive a notification about the 
> update. That other post about waiting for a notification doesn't make sense 
> because Matthew Dire said that he got a notification right away when the 
> update was released. So do you have to tell iCloud to push those kinds of 
> notifications to your phone?
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Re: iOS 6.1 appears to be rolling out

[BBS]

Hi. I am connected to iCloud and I didn't receive a notification about 
the update. That other post about waiting for a notification doesn't 
make sense because Matthew Dire said that he got a notification right 
away when the update was released. So do you have to tell iCloud to 
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Re: USING APPLE KEYBOARD WITH MORE THAN ONE ITEM

[Maria And Joe]

Hi. If  you happen to check this out, or if you know of anyone that does, 
please pass on a review.  I have a mac, an iphone, and an ipad.  I'm not sure 
how to disconnect the keyboard from the mac if I want to use it with the ipad 
or iphone.  I don't have a usb keyboard attached to the mac so I just shut the 
mac down then I can connect it to the ipad. 
I am thinking seriously of getting another keyboard for the ipad, but  if there 
is one that will switch, well.


Maria, Joe and Karly.

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On 30/01/2013, at 6:02 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> I read last week about a new product called the Logitech Easy Switch 
> keyboard. It has buttons that allow you to switch between 3 devices, so you 
> can have them all paired, and just press a button to switch to the one you 
> want to control. Sounds quite nifty.
> Jonathan
> On 30/01/2013, at 3:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
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>> Hi, to add more to this, if you have a keyboard which supports multiple 
>> Bluetooth profiles, then it can be paired with more than one device. 
>> Unfortunately keyboards like the Apple one and the Amazon one are for only 
>> one device at a time.
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>> On 1/19/2013 10:42 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hi. You are correct. You do have to unpair it with the first device.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Carol Pearson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Am I right in thinking that you have to unpair the Apple keyboard in order 
 to pair (for use) with another Apple device?  I can understand why you 
 can't be writing on more than one item, but I'd like to be able to swap 
 and change easily so would appreciate an answer to this, please.
 
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