Re: Sending a text message from contacts

[David Chittenden]

This has always been the case. It is so you can add additional contacts or 
phone numbers to the text message. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 28 Sep 2013, at 16:10, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Has anyone else noticed
> when sending a text message to a contact, that is from the send
> message link on a contact's screen, the edit cursor is now being
> placed in the "to" field rather than in the blank message area? This
> despite that the contact name has already been entered in the to
> field.
> 
> I have only seen this since updating to ios7 and was wondering if
> others have seen it too. If so, I will bring it to the attention of
> apple accessibility.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kimber
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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Sieghard and all.
I don't think that iOS 7 is particularly bad, but that isn't, IMHO,
the standard I would judge it on. The only reason to upgrade, at least for
me, is that the upgrade will be better than what came before. If it's
better, and I mean better on the whole, taking everything into account, then
it's worth the upgrade no matter what bugs are in the system. The bugs just
reduce the quality, if other things raise it, the update is fine. As it
stands, I think the question is whether iOS 7 is better for any particular
user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have to determine for
himself, and it's something which is specific to him. That is, iOS 7 is
worth the upgrade to me because things work better with my Bluetooth to
hearing aid bridge. For someone who doesn't use such a bridge but who's like
me in everything else, it may not be worth it. For someone who hates the old
app switcher, it may be great, and for someone who loves the way mail is
displayed in the old mail program it may be horrible... You get the idea.
Aman
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holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a old iPhone
of 16Gb, a little bit slow. Also, some times I try to open apps, and they
just doesn't open, and I guess is it because the Ios 7 is too heavy for the
processor of my old iPhone 4.
But in my iPhone 5, it works much better, and the slow thing  that I feel in
my iPhone 4, is imperceptible. Also, the last update, fixed the issue that I
had with the time, or it is that I am feeling so far. Also I have to  say
that Ios 7 brought  many new things, things that will be so helpful for us
using voice over, and every body who uses Ios 7.


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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

[Teresa Cochran]

Actually, I think shuffling radio stations is great, especially when stations 
are genre and artist specific. Pandora does have this feature, but ITunes 
doesn't appear to. I have a very eclectic musical taste, and I love to hear 
things like Monty Python followed by Frank Sinatra followed by Adele. :)

Teresa

On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don’t think there is a way.  The whole point of radio is the randomness to 
> begin with. haha.  I would think if a shuffle option was needed, the radio 
> function isn’t very good.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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> 
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, I don't know how to shuffle in iTunes radio can someone help me with 
>>> this? Thank you. Leela
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Re: Using Twitter

[Gadget Girl]

Hi.  I think www.applevis.com has some podcasts on that app.  They have many 
informative apps.  Check under the podcast link once you get on the home page.
 

Regards,
Anita 
also known as "Gadget Girl".  Sent via my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, 
Express yourself!

On Sep 27, 2013, at 8:54 PM, SSEric  wrote:

> 
> 
> Can anyone point to a decent tutorial on what Twitter is all about and how 
> best to use it. It is the concept that seems to be alluding me. I just want 
> to know how I can best make it work for my interest. I am currently using 
> TweetList. I am hoping to find discussion for voiceover users, of course.
> 
> All thanks in advance!
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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

[Penny Golden]

there may be a way to have a couple of genres running at the same time.  
I was enamored of their opera channel, and they sure won't let me get 
there anymore, somehow.
but it's all right.  iTunes is only 1 strand of my iPod radio.  I paid 
to join calm radio on the PC which never did work for me, but it is 
wonderful for a blind user on the iPod; but expensive.  Well, I think it 
is.

But it has lots of sub-categories in the classical genre.
Okay, this ramble has reached a conclusion.  And I hope to hear about an 
inexpensive football source. I put one in, which was free, but the  
choices did not speak; it was a shame, for it started out speaking. 
There was an A section with the NFL teams whose names began with A; B 
for the B's, etc.
After I had selected the Chicago Bears, there were 2 stations.  Well, i 
picked the first one and it started playing hard-rock, for, of course, 
there was no game then.  But I could hardly turn that off and get back 
out to the menu with the A B C's.
So I just deleted the app.  Isn't that the way to do it--if at first you 
don't succeed, give up?

Grin.

On 9/27/2013 11:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I don’t think there is a way.  The whole point of radio is the randomness to 
begin with. haha.  I would think if a shuffle option was needed, the radio 
function isn’t very good.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:


I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.

Teresa
On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:


Hello, I don't know how to shuffle in iTunes radio can someone help me with 
this? Thank you. Leela

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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I don’t think there is a way.  The whole point of radio is the randomness to 
begin with. haha.  I would think if a shuffle option was needed, the radio 
function isn’t very good.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.
> 
> Teresa
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
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>> this? Thank you. Leela
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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm confused. Could you explain more about what you're trying to do? 
iTunes Radio is a streaming on-line radio service, so shuffling doesn't 
make sense to me in this context.


On 09/27/2013 11:23 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.

Teresa
On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:


Hello, I don't know how to shuffle in iTunes radio can someone help me with 
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All football radio

[Richard Turner]

Which All Football Radio app are people using?
I found one by Red Ripe Media, and one by JJACR.
Thanks,

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

[Teresa Cochran]

I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.

Teresa
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RE: Sending a text message from contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would send them a message about it, if you are using a Bluetooth keyboard
you can press enter and it will put you in the text message field.

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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:10 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Sending a text message from contacts

Hi All,

Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Has anyone else noticed when
sending a text message to a contact, that is from the send message link on a
contact's screen, the edit cursor is now being placed in the "to" field
rather than in the blank message area? This despite that the contact name
has already been entered in the to field.

I have only seen this since updating to ios7 and was wondering if others
have seen it too. If so, I will bring it to the attention of apple
accessibility.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Sending a text message from contacts

[Ricardo Walker]

Hmm,

Hello,

I always remember this being the case.  After adding a contact, you have to 
then double tap on the message body in order to write your message.

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On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Has anyone else noticed
> when sending a text message to a contact, that is from the send
> message link on a contact's screen, the edit cursor is now being
> placed in the "to" field rather than in the blank message area? This
> despite that the contact name has already been entered in the to
> field.
> 
> I have only seen this since updating to ios7 and was wondering if
> others have seen it too. If so, I will bring it to the attention of
> apple accessibility.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kimber
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Sending a text message from contacts

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi All,

Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Has anyone else noticed
when sending a text message to a contact, that is from the send
message link on a contact's screen, the edit cursor is now being
placed in the "to" field rather than in the blank message area? This
despite that the contact name has already been entered in the to
field.

I have only seen this since updating to ios7 and was wondering if
others have seen it too. If so, I will bring it to the attention of
apple accessibility.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Voice over typing speed

[David Chittenden]

I am not experiencing that with my iPhone 5. Have you tried turning your iPhone 
off, waiting about 30 seconds, then turning your device on? This usually 
corrects such problems.

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Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Sep 2013, at 11:59, Marissa Solaun  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone on this list, noticed that when using iOS 7 and voiceover
> voiceover seems to take a lot longer to insert the letters on the
> screen when using touch typing them before seems like voiceover cannot
> keep up with the typing
> 
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Re: Bard Mobile is out

[Lori Dent]

Hi Mary,

I was approved and welcomed to Bard. Bard sent me a temporary password and 
my user man is my email address. But this temporary password expired before 
I was able to log in to bard for the first time. And  at that time I would 
of created an account but I was having computer problems and my computer was 
being fixed at that time.


So I guess I will have to go to the Bard website so that I ccan create an 
account.  Take care.


Lori and the Gipper 


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RE: Free iOS7 Online iLife Event

[Rose Combs]

7 PM eastern?  If so, I cannot attend.  I would not be home from work yet.  

 

 

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Exporting mp3 from dropbox

[erik burggraaf]

Hi all,  I just tried to export an mp3 from my dropbox to the music app and the 
export button is dimmed.  Is there a trick to this?

Thanks,

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How to shuffle in iTunes radio

[Lelia Struve]

Hello, I don't know how to shuffle in iTunes radio can someone help me with 
this? Thank you. Leela

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Using Twitter

[SSEric]

Can anyone point to a decent tutorial on what Twitter is all about and how best 
to use it. It is the concept that seems to be alluding me. I just want to know 
how I can best make it work for my interest. I am currently using TweetList. I 
am hoping to find discussion for voiceover users, of course.

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Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Garth Humphreys]

I haven't noticed a way of turning this off, the one good thing is that at 
least it seems to sort the apps such that the ones which have not been updated 
yet are at the top, irrespective of when the update was made available. Also I 
quite like to be able to go back and check the changes and updates.  I can 
nderstand how this clutter would be annoying for some though . 
On 28/09/2013, at 7:53 AM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If so, I 
> apologize.
>  
> I’m used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps, once 
> updated, disappear from the Update list.
>  
> In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days after 
> updating and indicate “open”, confirming they have been updated.
>  
> Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so when I go 
> it to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones that are available 
> for updating?
>  
> I couldn’t find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.
> Thanks, Keith
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Re: Mail partially fixed

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

No.  I don’t see this it all.  I just double tapped compose in Mail, and 
Voiceover focus is already on the TO: field so I can just start typing.  So I 
entered in 1 letter.  Now, I need to touch somewhere on the top of the screen 
to view the results that populated underneath the TO field.  Now I can flick 
right and left through the results with no problems.  I’ve been reading a lot 
of posts on IOS 7 and I haven’t seen anyone mentione this problem but you up to 
now.  It could be a Voiceover bug but, I kinda doubt it.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Marissa Solaun  wrote:

> So no one else using iOS 7 is having the issue with mail that you
> double tap on the to field, insert a letter and you can swipe from
> left to right to view the list of recently contact email addresses? I
> think, with iOS 7 .02 it seems to be a little bit better but Apple
> cannot reproduce this issue would anybody suggest deleting my
> applications erasing my iPhone and is there way to reinstall iOS 7? Is
> this a bug related to voice over
> 
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Re: rotor word I cannot understand

[Ricardo Walker]

Yes,

I actually don’t like this.  Why start shortening words now.  haha.  The extra 
2 syllables saved isn’t going to save much time, but does add an element of 
confusion that wasn’t there before.

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On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:

> That was confusing to me, too, until I had someone eyeball it for me. It's 
> Vert. Navigation, shortened form of Vertical Navigation. I think it was 
> pronounced as Vertical Navigation until iOS 7.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: rotor word I cannot understand
> 
>   Can someone please tell me what this is in my rotor and what it 
> does. It sounds to me like ert navigation. Thanks to anyone who can hear it 
> better than I can and can clear up my mystery! :) 
> 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
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RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Rose Combs]

Well, I just updated the iPad mini without the plug, not intentionally mind
you but it actually did not nag me, just did the update and when it turned
back on I noticed the cord was not thee.  My only luck for a very long time,
LOL


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

When the device is downloading the update in the background, it does not
necessarily download in one massive spirt. Instead, it breaks up the
download in to small bits and can take up to days to complete the download.
As I understand, the upgrade download also only occurs when the iDevice is
plugged in, locked, and on a wifi network.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Sep 2013, at 5:12, Aman Singer  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Chris and all.
> I would, Chris, respectfully disagree with what you say below. I
> neither like nor dislike change, but like change for the better and
> dislike change for the worse. I have upgraded to iOS 7 because it has
> one absolutely earthshaking feature which makes my use allot easier
> than it was. If that feature weren't there, I would not have updated.
> I have heard of very few things more foolish than Apple's downloading
> the update to the devices. People could want to avoid the program
> because of the bugs. They could be in a place with a satellite or
> other expensive connection and not want to download such a large file.
> This would be particularly nasty if the connection charged by the
> megabyte. They could have their disk nearly full and need to keep
> space open. They could have an older device which they don't want to
> upgrade though Apple says it can be upgraded. They could have an
> unstable network which may not like having large files downloaded over
> it. They could have a network which is constantly in use and is,
> therefore, very slow for downloads of large files. They could be
> avoiding the update because they like jailbroken devices. They may
> have applications which don't work, or don't work properly, on iOS 7.
> I could go on. There are tons of reasons not to upgrade, many of which
> are excellent.
> Aman
> 
>> On 9/26/13, Chris H  wrote:
>> I don't understand the hold out either and actually think this is a good
>> move on Apple's part. I know iOS 7 contain bugs, but all initial
>> releases of software, regardless of platform, will have bugs. They will
>> only improve not worsen over time. I have a few bugs myself in iOS 7 but
>> I cope with them and they are not deal breakers for me. I guess some of
>> us on here, as well as some of the general public, do not like change.
>> Well it's what it is so deal with it. And that's not me being harsh;
>> that's me being realistic.
>> 
>>> On 26/09/2013 16:15, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> For those of you who want/need to stay on iOS 6 for whatever reason, I
>>> come with some bad news.
>>> According to an article I'll link to below, Apple is pushing the OTA
>>> update to 7 automatically to devices that don't have 7 installed yet,
with
>>> no user consent, and no way to reclaim the lost storage space the update
>>> uses when downloaded.
>>>
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-
to-holdout-devices
>>> 
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Re: Question about FaceTime Audio

[Ricardo Walker]

They don’t see your face.  That’s why its facetime audio.  No video is being 
shared.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:

> If you have the phone up to your ear, how is anyone going to see your face?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chris H
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about FaceTime Audio
> 
> Good evening all.
> Just used FaceTime Audio for the first time when friend and fellow list
> member Hannah Day called me on it.
> We freaked out initially because of how the audio comes through, which is
> via the earpiece. The question therefore is this.
> Is there any way at all of using FaceTime audio via speakerphone just like
> cellular or normal FaceTime calls? If so how?
> Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Voice over typing speed

[Marissa Solaun]

Has anyone on this list, noticed that when using iOS 7 and voiceover
voiceover seems to take a lot longer to insert the letters on the
screen when using touch typing them before seems like voiceover cannot
keep up with the typing

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Mail partially fixed

[Marissa Solaun]

So no one else using iOS 7 is having the issue with mail that you
double tap on the to field, insert a letter and you can swipe from
left to right to view the list of recently contact email addresses? I
think, with iOS 7 .02 it seems to be a little bit better but Apple
cannot reproduce this issue would anybody suggest deleting my
applications erasing my iPhone and is there way to reinstall iOS 7? Is
this a bug related to voice over

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Re: SiriusXM App & iOS

[Chris Chaffin]

If you are not a Sirius subscriber at the moment, and you just want their 
Internet radio subscription to use on your computer, tablet, or phone, then 
it is $14.49 a month.


Chris Chaffin


-Original Message- 
From: Penny Golden

Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 7:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM App & iOS


Can you tell us non serius XFM users, how expensive it is?  Sure, I
could probably work at finding out.
But I'd really like to know. thanks.
Maybe more than just one is wondering after your tremendously helpful
explanation.

On 9/27/2013 4:19 PM, Steve wrote:

Yes, it is.  Much easier than using the SiriusXm app on the computer.

Here goes what you need to do with the iPhone.  First, the method, then 
a

couple caveats.

1.  Open Sirius Xm Radio.

2.  There are six buttons on the dock area of the app, although only 
five

are visible.  They are: Categories, channels, favorites, on-demand, and
downloads.  If you swipe with three fingers like you were going to a new
page, settings will be exposed.




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Re: iOS 7, thoughts?

[Mike Reiser]

I wasn't able to reproduce the jumping us on the 5S in the Apple Store.



Mike

> On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> As far as the texts and emails and the native keyboard, I have found the same 
> shifting around. I have found that using mBraille and Fleksy and either 
> directly sending from mBraille or going to reply and pasting from either app 
> works beautifully. I can fix my work in the apps and not even bother with the 
> edit field. So, until I accustom myself to the new edit fields, this is the 
> easiest way for me. Maybe this would help someone else.
> 
> I also notice that the jumpiness of the VO is much worse on iPad. Not sure 
> why, but it may be because I am still learning the screen on iPad. I just 
> don't know. Is this jumpiness the same on 5s? Just curious.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Scott Duck"  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be
> turned on and off independently of the mute switch.  Most of the other new
> features aren't a big deal to me.  The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit
> annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s.  If I had it to do
> over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6.
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Chris H
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iOS 7, thoughts?
> 
> So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your
> thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such
> as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is
> sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going
> to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s.
> All comments welcome.
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Re: Question about FaceTime Audio

[Chris H]

Hmmm that's the idea FaceTime Audio is voice calls only.


christopher...@gmail.com

On 27/09/2013 23:53, Rose Combs wrote:

If you have the phone up to your ear, how is anyone going to see your face?


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Subject: Question about FaceTime Audio

Good evening all.
Just used FaceTime Audio for the first time when friend and fellow list
member Hannah Day called me on it.
We freaked out initially because of how the audio comes through, which is
via the earpiece. The question therefore is this.
Is there any way at all of using FaceTime audio via speakerphone just like
cellular or normal FaceTime calls? If so how?
Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: SiriusXM App & iOS

[Penny Golden]

Can you tell us non serius XFM users, how expensive it is?  Sure, I 
could probably work at finding out.

But I'd really like to know. thanks.
Maybe more than just one is wondering after your tremendously helpful 
explanation.


On 9/27/2013 4:19 PM, Steve wrote:

Yes, it is.  Much easier than using the SiriusXm app on the computer.

Here goes what you need to do with the iPhone.  First, the method, 
then a

couple caveats.

1.  Open Sirius Xm Radio.

2.  There are six buttons on the dock area of the app, although only 
five

are visible.  They are: Categories, channels, favorites, on-demand, and
downloads.  If you swipe with three fingers like you were going to a 
new

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Re: About the dictionary in iOS 7

[Penny Golden]

Well, i see how you define a word in a document by holding on it; but 
how would you go about entering a word to define. BestPen


On 9/27/2013 4:55 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

The dictionary is built-in, it is not an app.
To look up a word, double-tap and hold on the word until you hear the tones, then lift 
your finger and wait a moment, and you should hear "define, menu item" then do 
a single finger double-tap.
The first time, you will have to select your default dictionary.
HTH,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:50 AM, "Mohammed Rashid"  
wrote:

How do you get to the dictionary itself.

Kind regards
Mohammed Rashid

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Of Peggy Fleischer
Sent: 26 September 2013 14:53
To: Theiphone
Subject: Re: About the dictionary in iOS 7

To use the dictionary,  Type a word you want to define in an edit field in a
note or text message or select a word from same.
then, turn your rotor to edit and flick down with one finger till  you here
"define and double tap.

hth


On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
wrote:


How do I use the dictionary feature?


On 9/25/13, Peninnah Fleischer  wrote:
When you go to use the dictionary for the first time in iOS 7 to  define

a

word you will find that voiceover will say no definition found. When you

get

that message, flick to the right and you will find a button that says
manage. Double tap on that and you'll be presented with a list of
dictionaries from which you can choose. Choose a dictionary and from then

on

that will be the default dictionary that your iPhone uses. The

definitions

will come up properly then.

Sent from my iPod

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RE: Question about FaceTime Audio

[Rose Combs]

If you have the phone up to your ear, how is anyone going to see your face?


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Subject: Question about FaceTime Audio

Good evening all.
Just used FaceTime Audio for the first time when friend and fellow list
member Hannah Day called me on it.
We freaked out initially because of how the audio comes through, which is
via the earpiece. The question therefore is this.
Is there any way at all of using FaceTime audio via speakerphone just like
cellular or normal FaceTime calls? If so how?
Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Christopher Chaltain]

that's another good point. I did an update all the other day, and about 
four of the apps failed to update. Instead of finding this out when I 
went looking for an app on a home page or in a folder, I was able to 
see, just from checking the App Store, which apps updated and which 
failed. A quick double tap on the apps that failed, and they all updated 
successfully the second go around.


On 09/27/2013 05:42 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

I can see where that would be helpful.

I had WiFi hangups frequently in iOS 6, much better in iOS 7.

I've tried to Update All in iOS 6, and the first 3 of 7 apps would get installed, and the rest wouldn't, so before the 
AppStore was closed and then reopened, the first 3 apps were listed as Open" but the last 4 apps were listed as 
"Install". So, I guess I've been worried that I'd go in and see the top few apps as "Open" and not 
realized that some apps lower in the list are still listed as "Update" or hung up on "Installing", and 
the only way I'd know is to flick through every app in the Update list, which would be quite a chore if they're all listed.

Maybe I'll just have a little faith they're either all Updated, or will be with 
future Update All commands.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" 
for days after updating

I'm not sure I have a specific value for it other than just documenting when an 
app was updated. This has come in handy on my PC when a problem creeps in, and 
I want to know what might have changed around the same time I started noticing 
the problem. I know I don't always get it right when someone is helping me 
debug an issue and they ask me what I did or what changed around the same time 
I started noticing the problem.
Although I'm usually pretty good about checking what apps are being updated, 
sometimes I'm in a hurry, and I might click on that update all button pretty 
quickly. I think it would be nice to be able to go back and refresh my memory 
on the apps that got updated and even review the what's changed information for 
those apps.

Even if this doesn't seem like much of a value add, the extra information 
doesn't phase me at all. I just review the list until I get to the apps that 
have already been updated and I know I'm at the end of the list of the apps I'm 
interested in. Maybe it's just the way I use the App Store, but this is no 
different to me than just getting to the tabs at the end of the page.

On 09/27/2013 05:11 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

What's the value in it, for those of us who manually update apps? I
can understand a value if one has Automatic Updates enabled. I'm sure
I'll eventually get used to it,



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Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating
"Open" for days after updating

No, as far as I know, there's no way to delete this information. Since
the apps are listed in reverse chronological order, I don't find this
to be clutter at all.

On 09/27/2013 04:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Hi,

I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If
so, I apologize.

I'm used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps,
once updated, disappear from the Update list.

In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days
after updating and indicate "open", confirming they have been updated.

Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so
when I go it to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones
that are available for updating?

I couldn't find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.

Thanks, Keith

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RE: rotor word I cannot understand

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

That was confusing to me, too, until I had someone eyeball it for me. It's 
Vert. Navigation, shortened form of Vertical Navigation. I think it was 
pronounced as Vertical Navigation until iOS 7.

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Subject: rotor word I cannot understand

Can someone please tell me what this is in my rotor and what it 
does. It sounds to me like ert navigation. Thanks to anyone who can hear it 
better than I can and can clear up my mystery! :) 



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RE: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I can see where that would be helpful.

I had WiFi hangups frequently in iOS 6, much better in iOS 7.

I've tried to Update All in iOS 6, and the first 3 of 7 apps would get 
installed, and the rest wouldn't, so before the AppStore was closed and then 
reopened, the first 3 apps were listed as Open" but the last 4 apps were listed 
as "Install". So, I guess I've been worried that I'd go in and see the top few 
apps as "Open" and not realized that some apps lower in the list are still 
listed as "Update" or hung up on "Installing", and the only way I'd know is to 
flick through every app in the Update list, which would be quite a chore if 
they're all listed.

Maybe I'll just have a little faith they're either all Updated, or will be with 
future Update All commands.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" 
for days after updating

I'm not sure I have a specific value for it other than just documenting when an 
app was updated. This has come in handy on my PC when a problem creeps in, and 
I want to know what might have changed around the same time I started noticing 
the problem. I know I don't always get it right when someone is helping me 
debug an issue and they ask me what I did or what changed around the same time 
I started noticing the problem. 
Although I'm usually pretty good about checking what apps are being updated, 
sometimes I'm in a hurry, and I might click on that update all button pretty 
quickly. I think it would be nice to be able to go back and refresh my memory 
on the apps that got updated and even review the what's changed information for 
those apps.

Even if this doesn't seem like much of a value add, the extra information 
doesn't phase me at all. I just review the list until I get to the apps that 
have already been updated and I know I'm at the end of the list of the apps I'm 
interested in. Maybe it's just the way I use the App Store, but this is no 
different to me than just getting to the tabs at the end of the page.

On 09/27/2013 05:11 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
> What's the value in it, for those of us who manually update apps? I 
> can understand a value if one has Automatic Updates enabled. I'm sure 
> I'll eventually get used to it,
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating 
> "Open" for days after updating
>
> No, as far as I know, there's no way to delete this information. Since 
> the apps are listed in reverse chronological order, I don't find this 
> to be clutter at all.
>
> On 09/27/2013 04:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If 
>> so, I apologize.
>>
>> I'm used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps, 
>> once updated, disappear from the Update list.
>>
>> In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days 
>> after updating and indicate "open", confirming they have been updated.
>>
>> Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so 
>> when I go it to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones 
>> that are available for updating?
>>
>> I couldn't find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.
>>
>> Thanks, Keith
>>
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rotor word I cannot understand

[Regina Alvarado]

Can someone please tell me what this is in my rotor and what it does. It sounds 
to me like ert navigation. Thanks to anyone who can hear it better than I can 
and can clear up my mystery! :) 



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Re: iOS 7, thoughts?

[Regina Alvarado]

As far as the texts and emails and the native keyboard, I have found the same 
shifting around. I have found that using mBraille and Fleksy and either 
directly sending from mBraille or going to reply and pasting from either app 
works beautifully. I can fix my work in the apps and not even bother with the 
edit field. So, until I accustom myself to the new edit fields, this is the 
easiest way for me. Maybe this would help someone else.

I also notice that the jumpiness of the VO is much worse on iPad. Not sure why, 
but it may be because I am still learning the screen on iPad. I just don't 
know. Is this jumpiness the same on 5s? Just curious.


reggie and Allegra

On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Scott Duck"  wrote:

Hi,
I do like the new app switcher and the fact that Voice Over sounds can be
turned on and off independently of the mute switch.  Most of the other new
features aren't a big deal to me.  The new Voice Over bugs are getting a bit
annoying and I find it to be pretty sluggish on my 4s.  If I had it to do
over again, I think that I would have stayed with IOS6.
Thanks,
Scott Duck


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Subject: iOS 7, thoughts?

So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your
thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such
as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is
sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going
to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s.
All comments welcome.

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Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure I have a specific value for it other than just documenting 
when an app was updated. This has come in handy on my PC when a problem 
creeps in, and I want to know what might have changed around the same 
time I started noticing the problem. I know I don't always get it right 
when someone is helping me debug an issue and they ask me what I did or 
what changed around the same time I started noticing the problem. 
Although I'm usually pretty good about checking what apps are being 
updated, sometimes I'm in a hurry, and I might click on that update all 
button pretty quickly. I think it would be nice to be able to go back 
and refresh my memory on the apps that got updated and even review the 
what's changed information for those apps.


Even if this doesn't seem like much of a value add, the extra 
information doesn't phase me at all. I just review the list until I get 
to the apps that have already been updated and I know I'm at the end of 
the list of the apps I'm interested in. Maybe it's just the way I use 
the App Store, but this is no different to me than just getting to the 
tabs at the end of the page.


On 09/27/2013 05:11 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

What's the value in it, for those of us who manually update apps? I can 
understand a value if one has Automatic Updates enabled. I'm sure I'll 
eventually get used to it,



-Original Message-
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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" 
for days after updating

No, as far as I know, there's no way to delete this information. Since
the apps are listed in reverse chronological order, I don't find this to
be clutter at all.

On 09/27/2013 04:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Hi,

I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If so,
I apologize.

I'm used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps, once
updated, disappear from the Update list.

In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days
after updating and indicate "open", confirming they have been updated.

Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so when
I go it to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones that are
available for updating?

I couldn't find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.

Thanks, Keith

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RE: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

What's the value in it, for those of us who manually update apps? I can 
understand a value if one has Automatic Updates enabled. I'm sure I'll 
eventually get used to it, 



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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" 
for days after updating

No, as far as I know, there's no way to delete this information. Since 
the apps are listed in reverse chronological order, I don't find this to 
be clutter at all.

On 09/27/2013 04:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If so,
> I apologize.
>
> I'm used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps, once
> updated, disappear from the Update list.
>
> In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days
> after updating and indicate "open", confirming they have been updated.
>
> Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so when
> I go it to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones that are
> available for updating?
>
> I couldn't find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.
>
> Thanks, Keith
>
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RE: Favorites in Contacts - Very Annoying

[Rose Combs]

Yes, I have noticed this also, I have one contact for my husband but I have
two places for numbers, one is his mobile phone, the other is labeled
hospital, since he is thee so often, when he goes in I edit that one to
reflect the number I will need to reach him for the period of time he is
there.  I know the order they are in on my phone but it is a bit unnerving
that I don't her mobile or hospital any longer.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Favorites in Contacts - Very Annoying

 

Hi folks,

Since upgrading to IOS 7, I've noticed some strange behavior in Contacts
that's really annoying.  In the Favorites list I have my girlfriend and some
other friends and family members, and there are entries for their mobile
phones as well as their land lines.  VoiceOver no longer identifies whether
an entry is for a mobile phone or a land line; all it says is "call".
That's not exactly helpful. So I have two questions:

1.  Is there some sort of visual indicator that tells you whether the
favorite is a mobile phone or a land line, and is VoiceOver unable to
identify it properly?

2.  Is there a setting that I can change to restore the original behavior?

 

 

 

   Thanks in advance.

 

Tom

 

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The new App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, there's two things I find so great about the App Switcher. The 
first is that I can get to all of my apps without having to switch 
pages. I really like not having to do a three finger swipe to get to 
anything but the last four apps in my App Switcher.


The other thing I like is that I don't have to do a double tap and hold 
to be able to start deleting apps. I can just do a three finger swipe up 
or a flick up and then a double tap to remove an app from the App Switcher.


A third thing I like is that I hear the status as to whether an app is 
running or not.


On 09/27/2013 04:58 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot
better.  Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the
screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where
to go and that was certainly true in the older version.

My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an
excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to
understand are more difficult now.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts?

Hello,

I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control
center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather
cluttered with these three buttons "today", "all" and "missed". Would be
nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is
that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the
notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me.

The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good,
whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some
errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say
"VoiceOver" or "app store" properly. This is ridiculous.

In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices.

They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed.
Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse
but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still
sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to

a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile.

The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri
almost
talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional
information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good
user
experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when
VoiceOver and
Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't
think
I'll use Siri that often.

Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several
apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a
tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the "read all"
gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver
starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position
and perform the "read all" gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor
reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7.

Alexandra

- Original Message -
From: "Chris H" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: iOS 7, thoughts?


So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your
thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features,
such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4,
it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know
it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s.
All comments welcome.



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Re: About the dictionary in iOS 7

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

Does anyone happens to know how to get using dictionarry to work with braille.

Thank you an advance.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 27, 2013 kl. 11:55 PM skrev Richard Turner :

> The dictionary is built-in, it is not an app.
> To look up a word, double-tap and hold on the word until you hear the tones, 
> then lift your finger and wait a moment, and you should hear "define, menu 
> item" then do a single finger double-tap.
> The first time, you will have to select your default dictionary.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:50 AM, "Mohammed Rashid" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you get to the dictionary itself.
>> 
>> Kind regards 
>> Mohammed Rashid
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Peggy Fleischer
>> Sent: 26 September 2013 14:53
>> To: Theiphone
>> Subject: Re: About the dictionary in iOS 7
>> 
>> To use the dictionary,  Type a word you want to define in an edit field in a
>> note or text message or select a word from same.
>> then, turn your rotor to edit and flick down with one finger till  you here
>> "define and double tap.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> How do I use the dictionary feature?
>>> 
 On 9/25/13, Peninnah Fleischer  wrote:
 When you go to use the dictionary for the first time in iOS 7 to  define
>> a
 word you will find that voiceover will say no definition found. When you
>> get
 that message, flick to the right and you will find a button that says
 manage. Double tap on that and you'll be presented with a list of
 dictionaries from which you can choose. Choose a dictionary and from then
>> on
 that will be the default dictionary that your iPhone uses. The
>> definitions
 will come up properly then.
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
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RE: iOS 7, thoughts?

[Rose Combs]

What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot
better.  Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the
screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where
to go and that was certainly true in the older version.  

My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an
excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to
understand are more difficult now.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts?

Hello,

I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control 
center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather 
cluttered with these three buttons "today", "all" and "missed". Would be 
nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is 
that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the 
notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me.

The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, 
whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some 
errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say 
"VoiceOver" or "app store" properly. This is ridiculous.

In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices.

They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. 
Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse 
but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still 
sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to

a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile.

The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri
almost
talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional
information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good
user
experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when
VoiceOver and
Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't
think
I'll use Siri that often.

Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several 
apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a 
tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the "read all" 
gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver 
starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position 
and perform the "read all" gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor 
reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7.

Alexandra

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: iOS 7, thoughts?


So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your
thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features,
such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4,
it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know
it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s.
All comments welcome.

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Re: AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Christopher Chaltain]

No, as far as I know, there's no way to delete this information. Since 
the apps are listed in reverse chronological order, I don't find this to 
be clutter at all.


On 09/27/2013 04:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Hi,

I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If so,
I apologize.

I’m used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps, once
updated, disappear from the Update list.

In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days
after updating and indicate “open”, confirming they have been updated.

Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so when
I go it to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones that are
available for updating?

I couldn’t find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.

Thanks, Keith

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RE: Which Mini KeePass?

[Alan Lemly]

The Mini KeePass I use on my iPhone 5 is free and is listed as MiniKeePass -
Secure when I search on just KeePass from within the iTunes Store Apps. Here
is the website of the program:

 

http://keepass.info/index.html

 

I believe the developer's name is Dominik Reichl.

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of DJ
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Which Mini KeePass?

 

Hello,

 

I went to the app store to find the password app but I found that there is a
MiniKeePass and a Mini KeePass.  The two apps seem to have it's own
developer.  Which of these specifically are you all using, the paid app or
the free one?  Please help me understand the reall difference between the
two.

 

Thanks,

 

DJ

 

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Re: About the dictionary in iOS 7

[Richard Turner]

The dictionary is built-in, it is not an app.
To look up a word, double-tap and hold on the word until you hear the tones, 
then lift your finger and wait a moment, and you should hear "define, menu 
item" then do a single finger double-tap.
The first time, you will have to select your default dictionary.
HTH,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:50 AM, "Mohammed Rashid" 
>  wrote:
> 
> How do you get to the dictionary itself.
> 
> Kind regards 
> Mohammed Rashid
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Peggy Fleischer
> Sent: 26 September 2013 14:53
> To: Theiphone
> Subject: Re: About the dictionary in iOS 7
> 
> To use the dictionary,  Type a word you want to define in an edit field in a
> note or text message or select a word from same.
> then, turn your rotor to edit and flick down with one finger till  you here
> "define and double tap.
> 
> hth
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, John Diakogeorgiou 
> wrote:
> 
>> How do I use the dictionary feature?
>> 
>>> On 9/25/13, Peninnah Fleischer  wrote:
>>> When you go to use the dictionary for the first time in iOS 7 to  define
> a
>>> word you will find that voiceover will say no definition found. When you
> get
>>> that message, flick to the right and you will find a button that says
>>> manage. Double tap on that and you'll be presented with a list of
>>> dictionaries from which you can choose. Choose a dictionary and from then
> on
>>> that will be the default dictionary that your iPhone uses. The
> definitions
>>> will come up properly then.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
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Re: Where is the dictionary?

[Richard Turner]

The dictionary is built-in, it is not an app.
To look up a word, double-tap and hold on the word until you hear the tones, 
then lift your finger and wait a moment, and you should hear "define, menu 
item" then do a single finger double-tap.
The first time, you will have to select your default dictionary.
HTH,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone;
> 
> I am unable to find the dictionary?
> Where is it?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
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how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc

[Tony]

I have a number BARD books on my PC and get magazines and other books on the
cartridges.  

 

I have WIFI and USB connections between the iPhone and the PC.

 

How do I transfer books?

 

Tony

 

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AppStore Updates - apps stay in Update screen indicating "Open" for days after updating

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I may have missed comments on this given the recent list traffic. If so, I 
apologize.

I'm used to updating apps from the Update tab, and then the apps, once updated, 
disappear from the Update list.

In iOS7 thus far, it appears the app stay on the update tab for days after 
updating and indicate "open", confirming they have been updated.

Is there any way to remove this clutter from the Update screen, so when I go it 
to the Update screen, the only items there are the ones that are available for 
updating?

I couldn't find any info under iTunes and AppStore in Settings about this.
Thanks, Keith

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Re: App switcher in IOS 6

[MamaPeach]

Double tap the home button. Then Double tap and hold on an app you want to 
close until you hear VoiceOver say  editing items. Then double tap the item you 
want to close.

From: Cliff Self 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 5:45 PM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: App switcher in IOS 6

What gestures do I use to access and control the app switcher in IOS 6?  I have 
a nagging suspicion I've been leaving apps open when I go from one to another.  
What I normally do is double tap the back button until it disappears, then 
press the home button to take me back to the home screen.  How do I actually 
close programs?

This is impoartant because I've read on this list that one should empty the app 
switcher before taking the leap into IOS 7, a leap which I plan to put off as 
long as I can.  

Grin,

Cliff

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Re: Which Mini KeePass?

[Joseph FreeTech]

On my iPod Touch 5th gen I'm running the following free app:

MiniKeePass - Secure Password Manager
By Flush Software, LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/minikeepass-secure-password/id451661808?mt=8

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "DJ" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:19 PM
Subject: Which Mini KeePass?


Hello,



I went to the app store to find the password app but I found that there is a
MiniKeePass and a Mini KeePass.  The two apps seem to have it's own
developer.  Which of these specifically are you all using, the paid app or
the free one?  Please help me understand the reall difference between the
two.



Thanks,



DJ



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App switcher in IOS 6

[Cliff Self]

What gestures do I use to access and control the app switcher in IOS 6?  I have 
a nagging suspicion I've been leaving apps open when I go from one to another.  
What I normally do is double tap the back button until it disappears, then 
press the home button to take me back to the home screen.  How do I actually 
close programs?

This is impoartant because I've read on this list that one should empty the app 
switcher before taking the leap into IOS 7, a leap which I plan to put off as 
long as I can.  

Grin,

Cliff

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RE: Weather doesn't show up in notification center

[Rose Combs]

Sorry, I did not see the message, there have been over 600 messages on this
list since Tuesday and I tried doing some of the mail on the phone probably
deleted it in a thread but, then life got in my way and now I am back to the
familiar computer and Outlook.  
Thing is, I will never catch up as it sees every list is hopping lately.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weather doesn't show up in notification center

Rose,

Wishing doesn't always make it so and I can almost guaranty that the old
notification center will not be back. However, I did reply to your last
message and told you how to get rid of Weather in Notification Center and
that all you have to do is double tap on the "All" button at the top to get
into the old familiar view of the iOS 6 Notification Center. It is going to
be as close as you get.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weather doesn't show up in notification center

I wish it did not show up there, I want the old notification center back.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Weather doesn't show up in notification center

Since the update (iOS 7), the weather widget doesn't show up anymore in the
notification center. I read that one had to activate stocks in settings /
notifications / stocks and turn it off again. What this has to do with
weather is Apple's secret, I suppose. Unfortunately, the stocks option isn't
there. I already opened the weather app, and my current place is selected. 
So how can I find check the weather quickly again? 

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Chris H]

The iPhone 4 is slow indeed but not so slow that it's unusable. Am 
looking forward to my upgrade as I know that will run tons better under 
iOS 7.



christopher...@gmail.com

On 27/09/2013 21:54, Pablo Morales wrote:

Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a old
iPhone of 16Gb, a little bit slow. Also, some times I try to open apps,
and they just doesn't open, and I guess is it because the Ios 7 is too
heavy for the processor of my old iPhone 4.
But in my iPhone 5, it works much better, and the slow thing  that I
feel in my iPhone 4, is imperceptible. Also, the last update, fixed the
issue that I had with the time, or it is that I am feeling so far. Also
I have to  say that Ios 7 brought  many new things, things that will be
so helpful for us using voice over, and every body who uses Ios 7.


- Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Hi Mary and others,

I didn't even know about the claim you can't edit first and last name.
So, I
just tried it and yes, it appears that once I double tap on First or Last
Name, I can't flick up and down with rotor set to characters and
review the
name. However, I just tried the Delete key and I could delete the name
without any difficulties and type it in again.
I would also classify this as extremely low on the list of important bugs
because once you have a contact added, how often do you have to
actually go
in and edit the first and last name. I am not saying it shouldn't be
fixed,
but it's certainly not a dealbreaker.

As far as all of the other issues, well, I don't want to sound smug or
condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid
August and
first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were
when iOS
5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people
report I
for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a
work-around.
Lastly, if as Raul also pointed out, people on here read the messages and
followed the advice many of us are giving, list traffic would I think
be at
least 30% or more lower. I don't know how often I have seen messages
about
where the Delete button on the Phone keypad has gone or how can I get
rid of
the extra characters popping up on the keyboard if I hold my finger on a
letter too long. I could come up with numerous other examples and if
somebody took the time to condense these thousands of messages since
the iOS
7 update into a list of actual bugs along with any potential
work-arounds I
still hold that iOS 7 is probably the update with the least problems
and the
best new feature set.
Another huge chunk of messages deals with complaints about how the old
notification center was better than the new, how people don't like or do
like the new app switcher and stuff like that.
Maybe you wonder what that has to do with the fact that many on the list
feel iOS 7 is a complete let down by Apple and a huge step backward in
accessibility. What I think it has to do with that is perception.
People are
overwhelmed with hundreds of messages each day, many are complaints
about 2
or 3 things or repeats about a few bugs. One person posted that he better
wait with the upgrade because such a huge jump in list traffic can
only mean
there are lots of problems. If you go back, however, and look at list
traffic right after the iOS 4, 5 and 6 update there was just such a
spike.
For iOS 4 and 5 it may have seemed less because there were way less
people
on the list at that point.

In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who
has an
iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade. Yes, I know people say iOS 7 is
sluggish on the iPhone 4 and even the 4S, a few even say this about
the 5. I
do have a 4S right now and I don't see it, maybe when you open an app for
the first time it takes a second or 2 longer, but when I navigate my
phone,
type or activate buttons and items like an alert in the Notification
Center
my 4S does things just as snappily as before. I also heard from enough
people who have the iPhone 4 that iOS 7 performs very well, so I conclude
that if somebody has issues it's maybe because they upgraded without
bothering to empty the app switcher and do a restart and things are just
bogged down. It should be fairly common sense that one should not perform
any major updates without doing a backup first and then making sure to
close
out open apps. If I install the monthly Windows updates I don't do so
while
I have 6 programs open. My advice is that if your device is sluggish,
do a
restore and redo the upgrade but this time close your apps and reset the
phone first before you hook it up to iTunes and do that. Then after the
upgrade, power the phone off again, wait 30 seconds and restart it. My
guess
is that you will find a vastly improved experience waiting.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: SiriusXM App & iOS

[Tim Emmons]

Thanks for all that, I'm running into one curious problem though. How does one 
download a show for later viewing, to show up in the downloads section. Just 
curious. Thanks. 
On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Steve wrote:

> Yes, it is.  Much easier than using the SiriusXm app on the computer.
> 
>>> Here goes what you need to do with the iPhone.  First, the method, then a
>>> couple caveats.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Open Sirius Xm Radio.
>>> 
>>> 2.  There are six buttons on the dock area of the app, although only five
>>> are visible.  They are: Categories, channels, favorites, on-demand, and
>>> downloads.  If you swipe with three fingers like you were going to a new
>>> page, settings will be exposed.
> 
> 3.  If you hit categories, the different categories will show up.  You can
> flick up or down withy your rotor set to headings.  Now, you can navigate
> the different channel categories by heading.  There will be pop, rock,
> Hiphop/R&B, Dance/Electronic, Country, Christian,
>>> Jazz/Blues/Standards, Classical, Family/Health, Sports, Sports
>>> play-by-play, MLB Play-by-Play, Comedy, Howard Stern, Entertainment,
>>> News/Public Radio, Politics, Religion, More,
>>> Latin, Latin Sports play-by-play.
> 
> 4.  In each heading, you can flick right to
>>> find the channels in that category.
> 
> 5.  If you choose channels, all the channels will be displayed.  I think
> there you can flick categories by heading.  Unfortunately, the channel
> numbers or titles don't show, but you can kind of tell where you are by the
> song that is playing.  The rock category begins with the Elvis chanel.  It
> goes through all the on-air offerings, then there are on-line only channels
> like Dylan Theme-Time Radio, Rock Hall of Fame, some others that I can't
> remember, and Tom Petty Radio.  Similarly, if you look at the country
> heading, below the Bluegrass Junction channel is the Folk Village and Red
> White and Booze.
> 
> 6.  I wrote a message last week about MySxm.  It is kind of accessible.
> When you are playing a channel that is customizable, there is a MySxm button
> right below the song title that is playing.  I think it will only say My
> graphic on the iPhone.  If you double-tap that, there are three sliders that
> you can adjust.  The labels usually are to the right of the slider that you
> can flick up or down.  Example: 60's channel.  First slider is
> depth/popularity; flicking up from the 50% setting will customize it to play
> more popular songs; flicking down will give you more depth or variety.  The
> next slider is Rock/MoTown.  Flicking up for more rock songs; flick down for
> more Motown soul.  Third slider is Tempo, flick up for more faster songs.
> On the 50's channel, the middle slider chooses more rock, or if you flick
> down, more DooWop.  The second slider on the 70's channel is either more
> rock or more disco if you flick down; and the third slider chooses early
> 70's if you flick up or more later 70's if you move the percentage below
> 50%.\
> 
>>> NOTES and CAVEATS:
>>> 
>>> 1.  The channel numbers are not listed.  You will see the song/artist
>>> currently playing by each channel.  Normally, the on-air channels are
>>> listed first, with the internet-only ones at the end.  Example: in the
>>> pop
>>> category, there is channel 2, channel 3, the decades channels, then there
>>> is The Love channel just before you get to the Neil Diamond internet-only
>>> channel, followed by the limited engagement channels.  In the rock
>>> heading, they start with Elvis's channel 19 and proceed numerically up
>>> except that the New Pink Floyd channel (43) appears after the Bob Dylan
>>> Theme-time Radio internet-only channel.
>>> 
>>> Note 2:  I haven't been able to figure out, but I think the home
>>> broadcast
>>> appears first for the different MLB games.
>>> 
>>> Caveat 1:  A couple times, when I wasn't playing an Xm show live, I
>>> couldn't get the stupid thing to activate the channel categories.  After
>>> I
>>> clicked the
>>> Live button, it worked.  But, that could be purely circumstantial.
>>> 
>>> Caveat 2:  It is hard to locate the exact spot to double-tap with
>>> Voiceover off.  If for that reason alone, the SpeedDots screen protector
>>> is well worth
>>> the $7 bucks.  I can activate the category view using the methodology
>>> above usually on the first try now.
>>> 
>>> Caveat 3:  Double-tapping the song artist/title in any of the categories
>>> when you have the channel category view switches to that station.  The
>>> display continues to show all the other channels, so it is a nice way to
>>> be able to scan for songs or just to keep up with the artist/title info
>>> on
>>> your favorite channel.
> 
> I posted this on the sirius xm accessibility list.  Not sure how many here 
> besides Rich and myself use the Sirius XM app on the iPhone, but if you do,
> I
> just wanted to report that it is pretty accessible.
> 
> Near the top of the screen is a graphic that says My.  Double-tapping that 
> brings up

Re: Tap Tap See photos

[TapTapSee]

Hello Tom,

TapTapSee doesn't save any of the photographs in your device, unless you 
save the last identified photograph by clicking the "Share" button and 
selecting the "Save to Camera Roll" option. TapTapSee does not have a 
running history of identified photographs within the app.

Best Wishes,
Dmitriy

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:05:52 PM UTC-7, Tom wrote:
>
>  Does Tap tap see keep your photos that are taken with that app, or just 
> the last one for review?
>

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Which Mini KeePass?

[DJ]

Hello,

 

I went to the app store to find the password app but I found that there is a
MiniKeePass and a Mini KeePass.  The two apps seem to have it's own
developer.  Which of these specifically are you all using, the paid app or
the free one?  Please help me understand the reall difference between the
two.

 

Thanks,

 

DJ

 

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Re: SiriusXM App & iOS

[Steve]

Yes, it is.  Much easier than using the SiriusXm app on the computer.


Here goes what you need to do with the iPhone.  First, the method, then a
couple caveats.

1.  Open Sirius Xm Radio.

2.  There are six buttons on the dock area of the app, although only five
are visible.  They are: Categories, channels, favorites, on-demand, and
downloads.  If you swipe with three fingers like you were going to a new
page, settings will be exposed.


3.  If you hit categories, the different categories will show up.  You can
flick up or down withy your rotor set to headings.  Now, you can navigate
the different channel categories by heading.  There will be pop, rock,
Hiphop/R&B, Dance/Electronic, Country, Christian,

Jazz/Blues/Standards, Classical, Family/Health, Sports, Sports
play-by-play, MLB Play-by-Play, Comedy, Howard Stern, Entertainment,
News/Public Radio, Politics, Religion, More,
Latin, Latin Sports play-by-play.


4.  In each heading, you can flick right to

find the channels in that category.


5.  If you choose channels, all the channels will be displayed.  I think
there you can flick categories by heading.  Unfortunately, the channel
numbers or titles don't show, but you can kind of tell where you are by the
song that is playing.  The rock category begins with the Elvis chanel.  It
goes through all the on-air offerings, then there are on-line only channels
like Dylan Theme-Time Radio, Rock Hall of Fame, some others that I can't
remember, and Tom Petty Radio.  Similarly, if you look at the country
heading, below the Bluegrass Junction channel is the Folk Village and Red
White and Booze.

6.  I wrote a message last week about MySxm.  It is kind of accessible.
When you are playing a channel that is customizable, there is a MySxm button
right below the song title that is playing.  I think it will only say My
graphic on the iPhone.  If you double-tap that, there are three sliders that
you can adjust.  The labels usually are to the right of the slider that you
can flick up or down.  Example: 60's channel.  First slider is
depth/popularity; flicking up from the 50% setting will customize it to play
more popular songs; flicking down will give you more depth or variety.  The
next slider is Rock/MoTown.  Flicking up for more rock songs; flick down for
more Motown soul.  Third slider is Tempo, flick up for more faster songs.
On the 50's channel, the middle slider chooses more rock, or if you flick
down, more DooWop.  The second slider on the 70's channel is either more
rock or more disco if you flick down; and the third slider chooses early
70's if you flick up or more later 70's if you move the percentage below
50%.\


NOTES and CAVEATS:

1.  The channel numbers are not listed.  You will see the song/artist
currently playing by each channel.  Normally, the on-air channels are
listed first, with the internet-only ones at the end.  Example: in the
pop
category, there is channel 2, channel 3, the decades channels, then there
is The Love channel just before you get to the Neil Diamond internet-only
channel, followed by the limited engagement channels.  In the rock
heading, they start with Elvis's channel 19 and proceed numerically up
except that the New Pink Floyd channel (43) appears after the Bob Dylan
Theme-time Radio internet-only channel.

Note 2:  I haven't been able to figure out, but I think the home
broadcast
appears first for the different MLB games.

Caveat 1:  A couple times, when I wasn't playing an Xm show live, I
couldn't get the stupid thing to activate the channel categories.  After
I
clicked the
Live button, it worked.  But, that could be purely circumstantial.

Caveat 2:  It is hard to locate the exact spot to double-tap with
Voiceover off.  If for that reason alone, the SpeedDots screen protector
is well worth
the $7 bucks.  I can activate the category view using the methodology
above usually on the first try now.

Caveat 3:  Double-tapping the song artist/title in any of the categories
when you have the channel category view switches to that station.  The
display continues to show all the other channels, so it is a nice way to
be able to scan for songs or just to keep up with the artist/title info
on
your favorite channel.


I posted this on the sirius xm accessibility list.  Not sure how many here 
besides Rich and myself use the Sirius XM app on the iPhone, but if you do,

I
just wanted to report that it is pretty accessible.

Near the top of the screen is a graphic that says My.  Double-tapping that 
brings up a list of preferences for the channel you're currently listening 
to.

Not all channels have preferences, though.



On the 60's channel, and the other four channels I checked, though, you have 
choices:




On all of the channels that have mysxm capability, the first box you get to 
is Depth / Popularity.  This is a box you flick up or down to adjust. 
Higher

values give more popular songs, lower values give more depth i.e. variety.



On the 60's channel, the next box is Rock / Soul: 

Re: some questions with the bard app

[Steve]

Hit enter on the book title.  Then, there'll be a link to add it to the wish 
list.


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: some questions with the bard app


I thought I saw away when you're in the recent books and you want a book on 
your wish list, but you could turn that download link into a wish list link. 
But I can't find it now in the help documentation. Does anybody know if it 
is possible when you're in the recent books section to add something to your 
wish list?

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:46 PM, alia robinson  wrote:

this isn't true, at least in the recent books/magazines list. If you tap 
on a magazine in this you go directly to download. If you search you have 
to add them to the wish list.  I wonder why you can simply download when 
in recently added, and not in any other part of the site.


Alia
On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:



Hi,
You have to add books to your wish list before you can download them.


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Re: Bard Mobile is out

[Steve]

You need to go to the Bard website to do that.

- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Dent" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Bard Mobile is out



Hi all,

I have Bar Mobile installed on my I phone 5. I have beentrying to find 
create an account on my app. Where is create an account at? Thanks Lori 
and the Gipper



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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Pablo Morales]

Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a old iPhone 
of 16Gb, a little bit slow. Also, some times I try to open apps, and they 
just doesn't open, and I guess is it because the Ios 7 is too heavy for the 
processor of my old iPhone 4.
But in my iPhone 5, it works much better, and the slow thing  that I feel in 
my iPhone 4, is imperceptible. Also, the last update, fixed the issue that I 
had with the time, or it is that I am feeling so far. Also I have to  say 
that Ios 7 brought  many new things, things that will be so helpful for us 
using voice over, and every body who uses Ios 7.



- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.




Hi Mary and others,

I didn't even know about the claim you can't edit first and last name. So, 
I

just tried it and yes, it appears that once I double tap on First or Last
Name, I can't flick up and down with rotor set to characters and review 
the

name. However, I just tried the Delete key and I could delete the name
without any difficulties and type it in again.
I would also classify this as extremely low on the list of important bugs
because once you have a contact added, how often do you have to actually 
go
in and edit the first and last name. I am not saying it shouldn't be 
fixed,

but it's certainly not a dealbreaker.

As far as all of the other issues, well, I don't want to sound smug or
condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid August 
and
first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were when 
iOS
5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people report 
I
for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a 
work-around.

Lastly, if as Raul also pointed out, people on here read the messages and
followed the advice many of us are giving, list traffic would I think be 
at

least 30% or more lower. I don't know how often I have seen messages about
where the Delete button on the Phone keypad has gone or how can I get rid 
of

the extra characters popping up on the keyboard if I hold my finger on a
letter too long. I could come up with numerous other examples and if
somebody took the time to condense these thousands of messages since the 
iOS
7 update into a list of actual bugs along with any potential work-arounds 
I
still hold that iOS 7 is probably the update with the least problems and 
the

best new feature set.
Another huge chunk of messages deals with complaints about how the old
notification center was better than the new, how people don't like or do
like the new app switcher and stuff like that.
Maybe you wonder what that has to do with the fact that many on the list
feel iOS 7 is a complete let down by Apple and a huge step backward in
accessibility. What I think it has to do with that is perception. People 
are
overwhelmed with hundreds of messages each day, many are complaints about 
2

or 3 things or repeats about a few bugs. One person posted that he better
wait with the upgrade because such a huge jump in list traffic can only 
mean

there are lots of problems. If you go back, however, and look at list
traffic right after the iOS 4, 5 and 6 update there was just such a spike.
For iOS 4 and 5 it may have seemed less because there were way less people
on the list at that point.

In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an
iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade. Yes, I know people say iOS 7 is
sluggish on the iPhone 4 and even the 4S, a few even say this about the 5. 
I

do have a 4S right now and I don't see it, maybe when you open an app for
the first time it takes a second or 2 longer, but when I navigate my 
phone,
type or activate buttons and items like an alert in the Notification 
Center

my 4S does things just as snappily as before. I also heard from enough
people who have the iPhone 4 that iOS 7 performs very well, so I conclude
that if somebody has issues it's maybe because they upgraded without
bothering to empty the app switcher and do a restart and things are just
bogged down. It should be fairly common sense that one should not perform
any major updates without doing a backup first and then making sure to 
close
out open apps. If I install the monthly Windows updates I don't do so 
while

I have 6 programs open. My advice is that if your device is sluggish, do a
restore and redo the upgrade but this time close your apps and reset the
phone first before you hook it up to iTunes and do that. Then after the
upgrade, power the phone off again, wait 30 seconds and restart it. My 
guess

is that you will find a vastly improved experience waiting.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: calendar and appointment list

[Brett C.]

After you bring up the list, touch the middle of the screen, rather than 
flicking from the top. Most times, this brings focus to the current week for me.
I miss tapping on a day in month view, and finding the appointments for that 
day in the section in the lower right corner. :(

Brett C.


On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
wrote:

> Hey, all. When I hit the search button it takes me to sometime in 2012.  Is
> there a way to ask for a specific month or date?  I haven't found one, but I
> tend to miss these little things.  I've tried typing in the name of the
> month in the search field, but that didn't seem to help.  Any thoughts?
> God bless!
> Paula and Babe
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Duck
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: calendar and appointment list
> 
> Regina,
> Hit the search button.  That will give you a list of scheduled events,
> basically like it was before IOS7.
> HTH,
> Scott Duck
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: calendar and appointment list
> 
> OK, I must be having a senior moment! LOL! I know I was told to tap
> apppointments when in the native calendar to get a list, but I see no
> appointment button. Can someone point me to where it is on the screen,
> please. Is there a podcast yet on using this calendar? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
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Re: Fw: IPad Ace

[Chris H]

Same here wondering if they're confused with the similarly sounding 
Samsung Galaxy Ace.



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On 27/09/2013 21:20, DJ Reese wrote:

I never even heard of this device a friend is asking about.  Has anyone else
heard of this?  Thanks!

DJ Reese

- Original Message - What do you know about it.
Linda just inform me that it supposed to be  better than Jaws and OpenBook.
Says no computer is  needed.
She heard about it   from the guy who got Jaws for me through Medicaid.



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Fw: IPad Ace

[DJ Reese]

I never even heard of this device a friend is asking about.  Has anyone else 
heard of this?  Thanks!

DJ Reese

- Original Message - What do you know about it.
Linda just inform me that it supposed to be  better than Jaws and OpenBook.
Says no computer is  needed.
She heard about it   from the guy who got Jaws for me through Medicaid.

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Re: important info for everyone regarding gmail

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello Victor, no people don't have to pay for and ActiveSync account if they 
don't want to you only have to do that is if like if you're using Yahoo they 
make you pay to use it as a ActiveSync I believe.

Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:19 PM, "Victor Gouveia"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Aren't people suppose to choose POP or IMAP?
> 
> At least, I was under the impression you had to pay for active sync accounts.
> 
> 
> Victor Gouveia
> Vice-President
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> Phone: 1 (888) 737-1115
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

just to add, check out this article about unlocked Verizon iPhones.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57518379-37/verizon-iphone-5-comes-unlocked-usable-on-at-t/

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Steve  wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> That is not what the representative at MyApple told me when I checked last 
> week.  It is confusing though as they list the same model number but have a 
> separate listing for the Gsm model versus the CDMA model, even though you can 
> roam internationally with the CDMA model.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the one 
> released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you own 
> your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible for 
> you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
>> Donald,
>> 
>> Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T network.  
>> The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big four carriers 
>> Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service while AT&T and 
>> T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the phones between the 
>> two CDMA carriers.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering switching 
>> to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to do that. 
>> But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work if he 
>> merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to Verizon 
>> in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested in an 
>> international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T. Incidentally, 
>> since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he is still under 
>> contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.
>> 
>> Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

A Verizon iPhone 5 or later will definitely work on a GSM network like AT&T.  
The only set back is they use different LTE bands so, you won’t be able to use 
4G.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Steve  wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> That is not what the representative at MyApple told me when I checked last 
> week.  It is confusing though as they list the same model number but have a 
> separate listing for the Gsm model versus the CDMA model, even though you can 
> roam internationally with the CDMA model.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the one 
> released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you own 
> your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible for 
> you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
>> Donald,
>> 
>> Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T network.  
>> The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big four carriers 
>> Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service while AT&T and 
>> T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the phones between the 
>> two CDMA carriers.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering switching 
>> to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to do that. 
>> But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work if he 
>> merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to Verizon 
>> in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested in an 
>> international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T. Incidentally, 
>> since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he is still under 
>> contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.
>> 
>> Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
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RE: east way to put music on to the phone

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

This is great, Sieghard. Thanks.

The only other thing I'd like you to comment upon is how to ensure that one CD 
will be kept as one CD in iTunes. I've had several CD's that were ripped into 
iTunes as multiple albums with various assorted tracks distributed among the 
various "mini-albums".

What should one check for before beginning the import, and how does one find 
compilation checkbox in the step-by-step guide you outlined below?

Thanks. Keith 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: east way to put music on to the phone

Hi Paula,

Open iTunes, go into Edit, Preferences and on the General tab which has focus 
when you get into Preferences tab down to the combo box which says "When you 
insert a CD:". Here you have 5 choices:
Show CD
Play CD
Ask to Import CD
Import CD
Import CD and Eject

I suggest if you want to do a collection to select the "Import CD and Eject"
option. This will if I remember correctly require no interaction on your side 
other than putting the CD into your drive, wait until it pops out and put in 
the next.

Also, once you made your selection, tab one more time to "Import Settings".
This is a button, activate it with space or enter and specify your import 
preferences, e.g. format, quality etc.
If you are firmly in the Apple camp, I recommend the AAC Encoder option, if you 
want to be more universal, MP3 is good, both will work well with Apple.
As for quality, I prefer the iTunes Plus format which is the second in the list 
after High Quality. I?Tunes Plus rips at 256 Kbps. I find he files are still 
reasonable in size but it is good quality and it is also what you get when you 
download songs from iTunes.
Lastly, once you set your Import Settings and pressed OK, tab one more time and 
make sure the "Automatically Retrieve CD Track Names from the Internet"
checkbox is checked. This will ensure that for almost all CD's out there the 
correct song titles, album name and so on are downloaded. If you have any CD's 
of very small local groups they might not be available from the online 
databases, but it's rather rare. Normally this is checked by default.
Now just tab to OK and activate it, then put in a CD and try it.
By default your ripped files will be stored in the Music folder under iTunes, 
iTunes Media and Music. Here it should be by artist name and album name.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade!

[DJ]

Hi Sieghard,

If someone offered me $50.00 to downgrade to IOS6 I would do it and take it.
Then I would upgrade right back to IOS7!  Lol!  I couldn't resist that one!

DJ


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade!

Hi Christopher,

Exactly, this was exactly the same for iOS 5 and iOS 6. It just so happened
somebody brought this to everybody's attention and it was put in a negative
light and now a few people are having a hissy fit about it. I totally agree
that there are a few bugs in iOS 7 just as there were some in iOS 6 and iOS
5 and iOS 4 and so on. As I pointed out in my other message, traffic on this
list has been so overwhelming with so much repetition and so much chewing
the same few problems over and over that some people are left with the
perception that iOS 7 is this horrible upgrade which takes accessibility
back 5 steps and which makes older devices grind to a halt.
In reality iOS 7 is an awesome update, looking back it will most likely be
viewed as very well done and all in all sighted and blind people alike will
like it a lot.
Some people seem to think that half their apps won't run on it because there
hasn't been a specific update that says "iOS 7 fixes" but of course the fact
is that among my 60 or 70 apps all but 3 or 4 worked even with the Beta
version. Of the few which didn't work (Groundwire SIP client and Talking
Goggles specifically) updates which fixed the problems were out even before
the public release. Tap Tap See which is an important app for many worked
but had some issues with the Flash and the Repeat button not working and
it's been fixed by now, bearly a week later.
Mary is worried about the Seeing Eye app, but I have not seen a single
message that it was not working in iOS 7.

Anyhow, I don't want to repeat myself, but I just can't stress enough that
iOS 7 is a good update which is working well at this point and I wouldn't go
back to iOS 6 even if I could and somebody offered me $50 to do so.

I think the reason why Apple is pushing the update to download and then
notify people is because there are a lot of people who can't care less about
following the latest news about iOS and that way Apple makes sure they do
realize there is an update and when people see that an update is available
and there is just a button that says "Install" they will do it.

I wonder how Mary and others who are so angry at Apple right now would feel
if they bought the latest and greatest Galaxy S4 now and a year from now
some absolutely awesome Android update came out which would improve
accessibility by miles and they couldn't upgrade because their 1 year old
device is not compatible. I read that I think it is 0.5% of Android devices
out there are running the latest version of Android. Most devices that are a
year or 2 old never have a hope to get an update. On the other hand well
over 50% of all allegeable iOS devices which can run iOS 7 already have
upgraded. Sure, iPhone 3GS and iPad 1 users as well as pre Fifth Gen iPod
Touch users can't upgrade, but I think by now this is a fairly small number
and it will be smaller still in 6 months as many who have a 3GS will upgrade
to at least a 4S or 5C and then use iOS 7. I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+
will be running iOS 7 in 6 months.

I also hope that the wining about not being able to downgrade or about the
injustice of having this upgrade downloaded to one's device stops because it
really is not very constructive and it's not like it will change anything. I
wonder how many people are still running iOS 5, I bet it's very few and we
all know that we can count on Apple to fix some bugs in 6 or so weeks and it
would be much more helpful if people would send good feedback to Apple
Accessibility rather than vent their anger which in many cases is based on
some perceived problem they heard about but haven't even experienced.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Resolved - Two finger double tap now not controlling media playback since iOS7.02

[Robin Christopherson]

Thanks to all who told me to reboot. It’s now sorted Just confirming for anyone 
else who experiences this.

Thanks, Robin.

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Joseph FreeTech]

Hi all,

I too am using an iPod Touch 5th gen, and I don't feel any of the temporary 
bugs in the IOS7 are impacting my use of my device.

For those having difficulties with the alternative characters feature that 
pops up when one holds on a letter too long when using the keyboard, try 
this...

1. While typing in an edit field, if you hold on a letter too long, once the 
alternative characters prompt appears, it is likely that when you lift your 
finger the character with focus will be entered. Simply slide your finger 
outside of the keyboard area then slide over to "delete" near the bottom 
right hand corner of the screen and lift your finger. The previously entered 
character will be erased. This also gives you a bit of time to rest your 
finger as it will not be on the screen anymore. Once you have completely 
thought about what it is you would like to enter in the edit field, you can 
continue.

2. Have the word(s) you would like to enter already in mind, so when you go 
to type, you will do so without pauses which minimizes the entry of these 
alternative characters. For those who have been using the touch typing 
method of text entry for some time now, this really should not be a problem 
at all.

3. If you would like not having to worry about the alternative characters at 
all, simply switch the rotor to Typing mode then select Standard typing. 
This of course means you will have to double-tap each letter to enter it in 
the edit field. You can also use the split typing method of data entry. If 
you choose to use the split typing method, I suggest you use your middle 
finger to scan the keyboard for your letter of interest then use your index 
finger or your ring finger to execute the split-tap. Using your middle 
finger gives you lots of speed and ease for those situations where you have 
to type a letter P and you don't have any fingers to split-tap with since 
your ring finger won't fit on the right edge of the screen.

Again, for me, employing just a little bit of thought and creativity has 
lessened some of the stress of change.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Davert" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


HI all.
I'm not upgrading my phone to iOS 7 because, as primarily a braille
user, I find the bugs I have been working with on my iPod 5 things
that I do not wish to deal with on the device I use all the time.
Certainly, things like iTunes radio are fantastic, but things like the
onscreen keyboard getting in my way, a bunch of editing commands being
broken, etc, are all reasons I'm staing away from iOS 7. I hope Apple
will fix this stuff, but I know that as a braille user, my worth in
terms of priority on the bug fixing chain is very close to the bottom.

Scott

On 9/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Mary and others,
>
> I didn't even know about the claim you can't edit first and last name. So,
> I
> just tried it and yes, it appears that once I double tap on First or Last
> Name, I can't flick up and down with rotor set to characters and review 
> the
> name. However, I just tried the Delete key and I could delete the name
> without any difficulties and type it in again.
> I would also classify this as extremely low on the list of important bugs
> because once you have a contact added, how often do you have to actually 
> go
> in and edit the first and last name. I am not saying it shouldn't be 
> fixed,
> but it's certainly not a dealbreaker.
>
> As far as all of the other issues, well, I don't want to sound smug or
> condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid August 
> and
> first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were when 
> iOS
> 5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people report
> I
> for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a 
> work-around.
> Lastly, if as Raul also pointed out, people on here read the messages and
> followed the advice many of us are giving, list traffic would I think be 
> at
> least 30% or more lower. I don't know how often I have seen messages about
> where the Delete button on the Phone keypad has gone or how can I get rid
> of
> the extra characters popping up on the keyboard if I hold my finger on a
> letter too long. I could come up with numerous other examples and if
> somebody took the time to condense these thousands of messages since the
> iOS
> 7 update into a list of actual bugs along with any potential work-arounds 
> I
> still hold that iOS 7 is probably the update with the least problems and
> the
> best new feature set.
> Another huge chunk of messages deals with complaints about how the old
> notification center was better than the new, how people don't like or do
> like the new app switcher and stuff like that.
> Maybe you wonder what that has to do with the fact that many on the list
> feel iOS 7 is a complete let down 

Re: iPhone 4s and face detection

[Negoslav Sabev]

I noticed that if my phone is locked to the portret mode, the face detection 
works only when picture is taken as a portret. It doesn't work if I take 
pictures in landscape.


Negoslav
- Original Message - 
From: "Troy Sullivan" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: iPhone 4s and face detection



I have a 4s, rarely I got it to work even when I had ios6.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: iPhone 4s and face detection



Good evening all.
With the improved camera in the iPhone 4s, is face detection working for 
you? I personally never got it to work on my iPhone 4 despite trying 
several times all to no avail, both with and without lighting etc.

Just curious.
Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Steve]

Ricardo,

That is not what the representative at MyApple told me when I checked last 
week.  It is confusing though as they list the same model number but have a 
separate listing for the Gsm model versus the CDMA model, even though you 
can roam internationally with the CDMA model.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question


Hi,

This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the 
one released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you 
own your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible 
for you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:


Donald,

Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T 
network.  The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big 
four carriers Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service 
while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the 
phones between the two CDMA carriers.


Todd



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 wrote:
An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering 
switching to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want 
to do that. But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will 
work if he merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it 
locked to Verizon in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not 
interested in an international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T 
and T. Incidentally, since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect 
that he is still under contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.


Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.

Don Roberts

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RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Michael Malver]

I don't disable my updates, but never have I had windows 8 automatically
download on my windows 7 system.  Windows 7 wasn't downloaded onto my vista
system either.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Aman Singer
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi, Raul.
You ask
Folks folks, do you all who are upset about the iOS 7 being downloaded
> also disable your Mac or Windows updates so they are not downloaded 
> without your permission?

I certainly do, I use Windows and Microsoft is well-known for beta testing
their updates on the unfortunate users who have automatic updates enabled. I
do updates manually only, and usually some time after they're released.
This, of course, is more necessary with a mobile device with their
comparitively smaller storage. As for making the update easier, Apple's
strategy here actually doesn't, it just makes it takes less time at the
point of use. Technical and non-technical users benefit from that equally, I
believe, and the benefit to some users is bought at the cost of difficulties
for others. These difficulties won't, as I said to david, bounce on to
Apple, but that doesn't mean they're not there.
Aman
On 9/26/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> Folks folks, do you all who are upset about the iOS 7 being downloaded 
> also disable your Mac or Windows updates so they are not downloaded 
> without your permission? What about those who are more technically 
> challenged and would welcome this because it makes the process easier?
>
> --
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> Just witnessed an ant crawl under one of my keys. Don't worry, It's 
> under CTRL. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
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RE: east way to put music on to the phone

[Ray T. Mahorney]

I think I am losing the plot here I am trying to get content from the computer 
to the phone.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 15:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: east way to put music on to the phone

did you open iTunes?  Go to where you have the music you want on your iDevice.  
Copy, now go back to
itunes. now paste.
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job
is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: "Ray T. Mahorney" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 3:48 AM
Subject: RE: east way to put music on to the phone


I am scratching my head here I don't see such a window but then I probably 
don't know what I am
supposed to be looking for


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 09:44
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: east way to put music on to the phone

You can copy your music to the "automatically add to iTunes"  while ITunes 
is off.  Then when you
open ITunes it will place the files in the necessary buffer. Or you can copy 
and paste right into
the iTunes window.  When you speak of reorganizing  your music are you 
speaking within iTunes or on
your iDevice ?
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job
is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: "Jed Barton" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: east way to put music on to the phone


Hi there, so how do I get the music on to the phone?
What's the best way to do it

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: east way to put music on to the phone

Use VLC for iPhone.  If you do it this way, VLC will keep your music the way
you already have it.  If you use iTunes, it's probably not going to stay the
same.

Kliphton Senior
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Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: east way to put music on to the phone

Hey guys,

OK, I have itunes installed on the pc.  I have my music already organized.
I am not looking to have itunes re-organize it.  What would be the best way
to bring some folders on to the iphone.

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Re: calendar and appointment list

[Kimber Gardner]

You can do a three finger flick up to move back in time or flick down
to move forward in time. When you're finished tap the done button in
the upper right corner of the screen.

Kimber

On 9/27/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> Hey, all. When I hit the search button it takes me to sometime in 2012.  Is
> there a way to ask for a specific month or date?  I haven't found one, but
> I
> tend to miss these little things.  I've tried typing in the name of the
> month in the search field, but that didn't seem to help.  Any thoughts?
> God bless!
> Paula and Babe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Duck
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: calendar and appointment list
>
> Regina,
> Hit the search button.  That will give you a list of scheduled events,
> basically like it was before IOS7.
> HTH,
> Scott Duck
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: calendar and appointment list
>
> OK, I must be having a senior moment! LOL! I know I was told to tap
> apppointments when in the native calendar to get a list, but I see no
> appointment button. Can someone point me to where it is on the screen,
> please. Is there a podcast yet on using this calendar? Thanks.
>
>
>
> reggie and Allegra
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RE: east way to put music on to the phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Paula,

Open iTunes, go into Edit, Preferences and on the General tab which has
focus when you get into Preferences tab down to the combo box which says
"When you insert a CD:". Here you have 5 choices:
Show CD
Play CD
Ask to Import CD
Import CD
Import CD and Eject

I suggest if you want to do a collection to select the "Import CD and Eject"
option. This will if I remember correctly require no interaction on your
side other than putting the CD into your drive, wait until it pops out and
put in the next.

Also, once you made your selection, tab one more time to "Import Settings".
This is a button, activate it with space or enter and specify your import
preferences, e.g. format, quality etc.
If you are firmly in the Apple camp, I recommend the AAC Encoder option, if
you want to be more universal, MP3 is good, both will work well with Apple.
As for quality, I prefer the iTunes Plus format which is the second in the
list after High Quality. I?Tunes Plus rips at 256 Kbps. I find he files are
still reasonable in size but it is good quality and it is also what you get
when you download songs from iTunes.
Lastly, once you set your Import Settings and pressed OK, tab one more time
and make sure the "Automatically Retrieve CD Track Names from the Internet"
checkbox is checked. This will ensure that for almost all CD's out there the
correct song titles, album name and so on are downloaded. If you have any
CD's of very small local groups they might not be available from the online
databases, but it's rather rare. Normally this is checked by default.
Now just tab to OK and activate it, then put in a CD and try it.
By default your ripped files will be stored in the Music folder under
iTunes, iTunes Media and Music. Here it should be by artist name and album
name.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Indaisy problem in iOs 7 and question about best bookshare reader

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Read2Go works fine with iOS 7 in my experience. If you want to read braille or 
play DAISY audio, Read2Go is your app; if you want to listen to books read 
aloud with synthetic speech, Voice Dream is great.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> For book share, voice dream reader seems to be the best way to go. There is 
> also read to go, but it is more expensive and is not updated very frequently. 
> I'm not sure if it works on iOS 7. Voice dream does work on iOS 7, and it 
> reads other things besides bookshare books.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> I just became member of bookshare. 
>> Now I am looking for the best options to read books on the iPhone. 
>> Has anyone tried more of them? 
>> On a different note but yet related I am having trouble with indaisy since 
>> iOS 7. I cannot get out of a book to the book shelf. Anyone has any ideas? 
>> 
>> Thanks for your suggestions. 
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
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RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Christopher,

Exactly, this was exactly the same for iOS 5 and iOS 6. It just so happened
somebody brought this to everybody's attention and it was put in a negative
light and now a few people are having a hissy fit about it. I totally agree
that there are a few bugs in iOS 7 just as there were some in iOS 6 and iOS
5 and iOS 4 and so on. As I pointed out in my other message, traffic on this
list has been so overwhelming with so much repetition and so much chewing
the same few problems over and over that some people are left with the
perception that iOS 7 is this horrible upgrade which takes accessibility
back 5 steps and which makes older devices grind to a halt.
In reality iOS 7 is an awesome update, looking back it will most likely be
viewed as very well done and all in all sighted and blind people alike will
like it a lot.
Some people seem to think that half their apps won't run on it because there
hasn't been a specific update that says "iOS 7 fixes" but of course the fact
is that among my 60 or 70 apps all but 3 or 4 worked even with the Beta
version. Of the few which didn't work (Groundwire SIP client and Talking
Goggles specifically) updates which fixed the problems were out even before
the public release. Tap Tap See which is an important app for many worked
but had some issues with the Flash and the Repeat button not working and
it's been fixed by now, bearly a week later.
Mary is worried about the Seeing Eye app, but I have not seen a single
message that it was not working in iOS 7.

Anyhow, I don't want to repeat myself, but I just can't stress enough that
iOS 7 is a good update which is working well at this point and I wouldn't go
back to iOS 6 even if I could and somebody offered me $50 to do so.

I think the reason why Apple is pushing the update to download and then
notify people is because there are a lot of people who can't care less about
following the latest news about iOS and that way Apple makes sure they do
realize there is an update and when people see that an update is available
and there is just a button that says "Install" they will do it.

I wonder how Mary and others who are so angry at Apple right now would feel
if they bought the latest and greatest Galaxy S4 now and a year from now
some absolutely awesome Android update came out which would improve
accessibility by miles and they couldn't upgrade because their 1 year old
device is not compatible. I read that I think it is 0.5% of Android devices
out there are running the latest version of Android. Most devices that are a
year or 2 old never have a hope to get an update. On the other hand well
over 50% of all allegeable iOS devices which can run iOS 7 already have
upgraded. Sure, iPhone 3GS and iPad 1 users as well as pre Fifth Gen iPod
Touch users can't upgrade, but I think by now this is a fairly small number
and it will be smaller still in 6 months as many who have a 3GS will upgrade
to at least a 4S or 5C and then use iOS 7. I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+
will be running iOS 7 in 6 months.

I also hope that the wining about not being able to downgrade or about the
injustice of having this upgrade downloaded to one's device stops because it
really is not very constructive and it's not like it will change anything. I
wonder how many people are still running iOS 5, I bet it's very few and we
all know that we can count on Apple to fix some bugs in 6 or so weeks and it
would be much more helpful if people would send good feedback to Apple
Accessibility rather than vent their anger which in many cases is based on
some perceived problem they heard about but haven't even experienced.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Mary,

I will be the first to say their are bugs.  But I honestly don’t think there is 
anymore or any less bugs than what is usually found in the first release of any 
major IOS update.  95% of the time, at least for me, IOS 7 does indeed just 
work.  I admit, I’m not a Braille user, so I can’t comment on any of those 
bugs.  But the speech related stuff, I really haven’t found anything earth 
shattering or, something I don’t believe will be fixed in the near future.

I think sometimes not trying something and just going on the reviews of others 
might understate or overstate problems.  Its like a person telling you how good 
or bad a movie is, in my opinion.  The things they do or don’t like in the 
movie are indeed there but, those same things you might find to be a minor 
inconvenience or trivial.  

JMO.  

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Raul,
> There is a huge difference when you're looking at a 32 or 16 GB I device 
> versus a Windows or a Mac PC with many many megabytes gigabytes or even maybe 
> terabytes of space. This is just wrong. I have 4 GB left on my iPhone. And 
> when this unwanted download comes on, it's going to leave me with something 
> around 1 1/2 left. That is a problem.   
> One of the things that Apple used to pride itself on his "it just works." 
> Given what I've heard about iOS 7 and voiceover, I don't think they're living 
> up to their reputation. We pay a lot more for this hardware and put up with 
> the "walled garden" because it is supposed to offer a superior experience. 
> This is not an example of a superior experience. Quite honestly, this is more 
> like what I would expect from the wild West in Google land, where it's 
> incredibly fragmented, and excess ability is catch as catch can, and it's a 
> mess. I don't pay big bucks to expect this kind of treatment from the company.
> Mary experience. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:14 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"  wrote:
> 
>> Folks folks, do you all who are upset about the iOS 7 being downloaded also 
>> disable your Mac or Windows updates so they are not downloaded without your 
>> permission? What about those who are more technically challenged and would 
>> welcome this because it makes the process easier?
>> 
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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Ricardo.
I am sorry to contradict but, respectfully, your examples aren’t
analogous at all. What Apple is doing here is changing the
functionality of already released products by reducing the space
available on already released devices and, incidentally, consuming
user bandwidth without user permission. Your examples all concern the
addition of new functionality or changes to servers owned by companies
providing that functionality. That is, if I want whatever new feature,
or if I want to use a server owned by a company, it is more than
reasonable to demand that I use products x y and z. It’s not only
reasonable but may well be necessary, the results of trying to read
fingerprints without a fingerprint sensor are probably not going to be
very good, and the results of trying to use an LTE network without an
LTE radio are probably going to be just as bad. What people want here
is simply to continue using what they are using now without any
interference. That, in my view, is more than reasonable, and it is the
first time I’ve seen this sort of attempt to impair present
functionality by a company. Keep in mind that people are using Word
Perfect 5.1 and DOS 6.22 to this day. Of course they have no support,
and of course they can’t use functionality on other machines which
requires newer software, but what they’ve always used works as it
always has.
Aman



On 9/26/13, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not trying to be confrontational but, people force you to do stuff like this
> all the time.  For example, if you want IOS 7 but have an iPhone 3GS?  You
> have to at least get your hands on an iPhone 4.  You might love your phone
> but, you want that new update so you get a new phone.
>
> Or how about internet explorer 10.  You want to have access to certain web
> sites, your still using Windows XP?  You either update tow windows 7 or 8,
> or try to use another web browser.
>
> This is really nothing new.  The more people that are running the same OS
> or, using the same hardware, makes it easier for developers to push out
> updates and new content.
>
> Sure, in some cases its a straight money grab.  Other times, companies force
> the issue because they don’t want to support old hardware/software anymore.
> Or, they’re trying to create a more unified experience among their users.
>
> JMO.
>
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>
>> I agree, this is absolutely not right. Nobody makes me do anything I dont'
>> want to do, especially something like this.
>> If this kind of dictitorial behavior keeps up I'm going to get rid of my
>> phone.
>> Patti
>> On 9/26/2013 11:45 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>>> If this is true, there are going to be some court challenges I bet. This
>>> is not right in my opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>> reggie and Allegra
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For those of you who want/need to stay on iOS 6 for whatever reason, I
>>> come with some bad news.
>>> According to an article I’ll link to below, Apple is pushing the OTA
>>> update to 7 automatically to devices that don’t have 7 installed yet,
>>> with no user consent, and no way to reclaim the lost storage space the
>>> update uses when downloaded.
>>> http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices
>>>
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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Raul.
You ask
Folks folks, do you all who are upset about the iOS 7 being downloaded
> also disable your Mac or Windows updates so they are not downloaded
> without your permission?

I certainly do, I use Windows and Microsoft is well-known for beta
testing their updates on the unfortunate users who have automatic
updates enabled. I do updates manually only, and usually some time
after they're released. This, of course, is more necessary with a
mobile device with their comparitively smaller storage. As for making
the update easier, Apple's strategy here actually doesn't, it just
makes it takes less time at the point of use. Technical and
non-technical users benefit from that equally, I believe, and the
benefit to some users is bought at the cost of difficulties for
others. These difficulties won't, as I said to david, bounce on to
Apple, but that doesn't mean they're not there.
Aman
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> Folks folks, do you all who are upset about the iOS 7 being downloaded
> also disable your Mac or Windows updates so they are not downloaded
> without your permission? What about those who are more technically
> challenged and would welcome this because it makes the process easier?
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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Aman Singer]

Hi, David.
You write
> When the device is downloading the update in the background, it does not
> necessarily download in one massive spirt. Instead, it breaks up the
> download in to small bits and can take up to days to complete the download.
> As I understand, the upgrade download also only occurs when the iDevice is
> plugged in, locked, and on a wifi network.

That doesn't, with respect, change anything about what I said in the
message below yours, unless I'm missing something. All the reasons I
give for this being an unfortunate move for the user are still present
with staggered downloading, downloading only over wireless, etc, and
downloading when the device is plugged in and locked. These
precautions are enough to avoid legal action, I think, if people got a
$10-20 cellular phone bill, or if their battery was suddenly very low,
the problems might bring enough attention to cause either public
relations or legal trouble, but the precautions are not enough to
prevent this being an imposition on the user. Obviously, if there was
a way to turn this off, there would be no problem.
Aman


On 9/26/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
> When the device is downloading the update in the background, it does not
> necessarily download in one massive spirt. Instead, it breaks up the
> download in to small bits and can take up to days to complete the download.
> As I understand, the upgrade download also only occurs when the iDevice is
> plugged in, locked, and on a wifi network.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 27 Sep 2013, at 5:12, Aman Singer  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Chris and all.
>> I would, Chris, respectfully disagree with what you say below. I
>> neither like nor dislike change, but like change for the better and
>> dislike change for the worse. I have upgraded to iOS 7 because it has
>> one absolutely earthshaking feature which makes my use allot easier
>> than it was. If that feature weren't there, I would not have updated.
>> I have heard of very few things more foolish than Apple's downloading
>> the update to the devices. People could want to avoid the program
>> because of the bugs. They could be in a place with a satellite or
>> other expensive connection and not want to download such a large file.
>> This would be particularly nasty if the connection charged by the
>> megabyte. They could have their disk nearly full and need to keep
>> space open. They could have an older device which they don't want to
>> upgrade though Apple says it can be upgraded. They could have an
>> unstable network which may not like having large files downloaded over
>> it. They could have a network which is constantly in use and is,
>> therefore, very slow for downloads of large files. They could be
>> avoiding the update because they like jailbroken devices. They may
>> have applications which don't work, or don't work properly, on iOS 7.
>> I could go on. There are tons of reasons not to upgrade, many of which
>> are excellent.
>> Aman

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Mary.
I use a bluetooth streamer to hearing aids as well as a braille
display. The fact that my hearing fluctuates often makes it easier to
use braille and leave my ears open for environmental sounds. In iOS 6,
the voiceover sounds would come through the streamer, activating it
and switching me on to the Bluetooth program when I didn't want to be.
in iOS 7, the voiceover sounds can easily be disabled, and it all
works well. I hate some parts of the new update, the UK voice sounds
like it has just come out of a very nasty meeting with its boss and
you can't seem to see the lock screen notifications with a bluetooth
keyboard, but the loss of the VO sounds makes up for it. Needless to
say, this is entirely specific to me. Other people will have other
views and ought to be able to download and update if and when they
feel like it.
Aman

On 9/26/13, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I'm on,
> I couldn't agree with you more. I am curious what the big feature in iOS 7
> is that convinced you to upgrade.
> I myself have not upgraded I don't want to upgrade right now. I have a less
> buggy iOS 6 that works for me. And I am so angry at Apple that if I didn't
> dislike android so much, this stupid move on their part would be enough to
> make me switch over to the other platform. The Sendero upgrade for the GPS
> that works on iOS 7 is not yet out. I am pretty sure there are some other
> apps that also have yet to be upgraded. It is arrogant and controlling
> beyond belief that Apple should force a download onto anybody. What in gods
> name are they thinking? I know this sounds strong, and I suppose it is. But
> really Apple you are going to far this time.
>  Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Aman Singer  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Chris and all.
>> I would, Chris, respectfully disagree with what you say below. I
>> neither like nor dislike change, but like change for the better and
>> dislike change for the worse. I have upgraded to iOS 7 because it has
>> one absolutely earthshaking feature which makes my use allot easier
>> than it was. If that feature weren't there, I would not have updated.
>> I have heard of very few things more foolish than Apple's downloading
>> the update to the devices. People could want to avoid the program
>> because of the bugs. They could be in a place with a satellite or
>> other expensive connection and not want to download such a large file.
>> This would be particularly nasty if the connection charged by the
>> megabyte. They could have their disk nearly full and need to keep
>> space open. They could have an older device which they don't want to
>> upgrade though Apple says it can be upgraded. They could have an
>> unstable network which may not like having large files downloaded over
>> it. They could have a network which is constantly in use and is,
>> therefore, very slow for downloads of large files. They could be
>> avoiding the update because they like jailbroken devices. They may
>> have applications which don't work, or don't work properly, on iOS 7.
>> I could go on. There are tons of reasons not to upgrade, many of which
>> are excellent.
>> Aman

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Scott Davert]

HI all.
I'm not upgrading my phone to iOS 7 because, as primarily a braille
user, I find the bugs I have been working with on my iPod 5 things
that I do not wish to deal with on the device I use all the time.
Certainly, things like iTunes radio are fantastic, but things like the
onscreen keyboard getting in my way, a bunch of editing commands being
broken, etc, are all reasons I'm staing away from iOS 7. I hope Apple
will fix this stuff, but I know that as a braille user, my worth in
terms of priority on the bug fixing chain is very close to the bottom.

Scott

On 9/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Mary and others,
>
> I didn't even know about the claim you can't edit first and last name. So,
> I
> just tried it and yes, it appears that once I double tap on First or Last
> Name, I can't flick up and down with rotor set to characters and review the
> name. However, I just tried the Delete key and I could delete the name
> without any difficulties and type it in again.
> I would also classify this as extremely low on the list of important bugs
> because once you have a contact added, how often do you have to actually go
> in and edit the first and last name. I am not saying it shouldn't be fixed,
> but it's certainly not a dealbreaker.
>
> As far as all of the other issues, well, I don't want to sound smug or
> condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid August and
> first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were when iOS
> 5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people report
> I
> for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a work-around.
> Lastly, if as Raul also pointed out, people on here read the messages and
> followed the advice many of us are giving, list traffic would I think be at
> least 30% or more lower. I don't know how often I have seen messages about
> where the Delete button on the Phone keypad has gone or how can I get rid
> of
> the extra characters popping up on the keyboard if I hold my finger on a
> letter too long. I could come up with numerous other examples and if
> somebody took the time to condense these thousands of messages since the
> iOS
> 7 update into a list of actual bugs along with any potential work-arounds I
> still hold that iOS 7 is probably the update with the least problems and
> the
> best new feature set.
> Another huge chunk of messages deals with complaints about how the old
> notification center was better than the new, how people don't like or do
> like the new app switcher and stuff like that.
> Maybe you wonder what that has to do with the fact that many on the list
> feel iOS 7 is a complete let down by Apple and a huge step backward in
> accessibility. What I think it has to do with that is perception. People
> are
> overwhelmed with hundreds of messages each day, many are complaints about 2
> or 3 things or repeats about a few bugs. One person posted that he better
> wait with the upgrade because such a huge jump in list traffic can only
> mean
> there are lots of problems. If you go back, however, and look at list
> traffic right after the iOS 4, 5 and 6 update there was just such a spike.
> For iOS 4 and 5 it may have seemed less because there were way less people
> on the list at that point.
>
> In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an
> iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade. Yes, I know people say iOS 7 is
> sluggish on the iPhone 4 and even the 4S, a few even say this about the 5.
> I
> do have a 4S right now and I don't see it, maybe when you open an app for
> the first time it takes a second or 2 longer, but when I navigate my phone,
> type or activate buttons and items like an alert in the Notification Center
> my 4S does things just as snappily as before. I also heard from enough
> people who have the iPhone 4 that iOS 7 performs very well, so I conclude
> that if somebody has issues it's maybe because they upgraded without
> bothering to empty the app switcher and do a restart and things are just
> bogged down. It should be fairly common sense that one should not perform
> any major updates without doing a backup first and then making sure to
> close
> out open apps. If I install the monthly Windows updates I don't do so while
> I have 6 programs open. My advice is that if your device is sluggish, do a
> restore and redo the upgrade but this time close your apps and reset the
> phone first before you hook it up to iTunes and do that. Then after the
> upgrade, power the phone off again, wait 30 seconds and restart it. My
> guess
> is that you will find a vastly improved experience waiting.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: SiriusXM App & iOS

[Chris Judd]

The app is very accessible to people who are totally blind.
You might have to label some buttons, but once you do it is easy to use.
There is a podcast on Apple vase, that will teach you how to label the buttons, 
and how to use the app.
Hope this is helpful.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Robin  wrote:
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> Is it possible for totally blind users of the iPhone to navigate the iOS app 
> using VoiceOver? If so, how?
> 
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About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary and others,

I didn't even know about the claim you can't edit first and last name. So, I
just tried it and yes, it appears that once I double tap on First or Last
Name, I can't flick up and down with rotor set to characters and review the
name. However, I just tried the Delete key and I could delete the name
without any difficulties and type it in again.
I would also classify this as extremely low on the list of important bugs
because once you have a contact added, how often do you have to actually go
in and edit the first and last name. I am not saying it shouldn't be fixed,
but it's certainly not a dealbreaker.

As far as all of the other issues, well, I don't want to sound smug or
condescending, but I have been running iOS 7 since Beta 5 in mid August and
first of all I don't think there are any more bugs than there were when iOS
5 or iOS 6 was released. Second, a fair number of the things people report I
for one either can't reproduce or if I can I can easily find a work-around.
Lastly, if as Raul also pointed out, people on here read the messages and
followed the advice many of us are giving, list traffic would I think be at
least 30% or more lower. I don't know how often I have seen messages about
where the Delete button on the Phone keypad has gone or how can I get rid of
the extra characters popping up on the keyboard if I hold my finger on a
letter too long. I could come up with numerous other examples and if
somebody took the time to condense these thousands of messages since the iOS
7 update into a list of actual bugs along with any potential work-arounds I
still hold that iOS 7 is probably the update with the least problems and the
best new feature set.
Another huge chunk of messages deals with complaints about how the old
notification center was better than the new, how people don't like or do
like the new app switcher and stuff like that.
Maybe you wonder what that has to do with the fact that many on the list
feel iOS 7 is a complete let down by Apple and a huge step backward in
accessibility. What I think it has to do with that is perception. People are
overwhelmed with hundreds of messages each day, many are complaints about 2
or 3 things or repeats about a few bugs. One person posted that he better
wait with the upgrade because such a huge jump in list traffic can only mean
there are lots of problems. If you go back, however, and look at list
traffic right after the iOS 4, 5 and 6 update there was just such a spike.
For iOS 4 and 5 it may have seemed less because there were way less people
on the list at that point.

In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an
iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade. Yes, I know people say iOS 7 is
sluggish on the iPhone 4 and even the 4S, a few even say this about the 5. I
do have a 4S right now and I don't see it, maybe when you open an app for
the first time it takes a second or 2 longer, but when I navigate my phone,
type or activate buttons and items like an alert in the Notification Center
my 4S does things just as snappily as before. I also heard from enough
people who have the iPhone 4 that iOS 7 performs very well, so I conclude
that if somebody has issues it's maybe because they upgraded without
bothering to empty the app switcher and do a restart and things are just
bogged down. It should be fairly common sense that one should not perform
any major updates without doing a backup first and then making sure to close
out open apps. If I install the monthly Windows updates I don't do so while
I have 6 programs open. My advice is that if your device is sluggish, do a
restore and redo the upgrade but this time close your apps and reset the
phone first before you hook it up to iTunes and do that. Then after the
upgrade, power the phone off again, wait 30 seconds and restart it. My guess
is that you will find a vastly improved experience waiting.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: calendar and appointment list

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hey, all. When I hit the search button it takes me to sometime in 2012.  Is
there a way to ask for a specific month or date?  I haven't found one, but I
tend to miss these little things.  I've tried typing in the name of the
month in the search field, but that didn't seem to help.  Any thoughts?
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: calendar and appointment list

Regina,
Hit the search button.  That will give you a list of scheduled events,
basically like it was before IOS7.
HTH,
Scott Duck


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: calendar and appointment list

OK, I must be having a senior moment! LOL! I know I was told to tap
apppointments when in the native calendar to get a list, but I see no
appointment button. Can someone point me to where it is on the screen,
please. Is there a podcast yet on using this calendar? Thanks.



reggie and Allegra

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Re: installing IOS 7

[Carol Pearson]

The point is that we normally think of a reboot as taking about one or two 
minutes. I think most people won't know what it is actually doing is something 
different!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 27 Sep 2013, at 05:49 pm, Chris H  wrote:

Carol just to say the iDevice goes into some pre-os environment similar to 
Windows Pe or whatever it is on the mac so the iDevice is really rebooting but 
not into the full os.


christopher...@gmail.com

> On 27/09/2013 17:25, Carol Pearson wrote:
> I was just a bit worried when my phone took about 10 minutes to boot, after 
> it had said phone booting! Wouldn't it b much better to have had that 
> announcement just before it really was rebooting!
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 27 Sep 2013, at 12:28 am Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Nothing to do really.  It might take about 10 minutes for your phone to start 
> back up.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Ray T. Mahorney  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What should I expect to see during the install process?  When the install 
>> started the phone shut
>> down.  What's next and how long do I have to wait until I can go near it 
>> again?
>> 
>> 
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
>> 
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Re: installing IOS 7

[Chris H]

Carol just to say the iDevice goes into some pre-os environment similar 
to Windows Pe or whatever it is on the mac so the iDevice is really 
rebooting but not into the full os.



christopher...@gmail.com

On 27/09/2013 17:25, Carol Pearson wrote:

I was just a bit worried when my phone took about 10 minutes to boot, after it 
had said phone booting! Wouldn't it b much better to have had that announcement 
just before it really was rebooting!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 27 Sep 2013, at 12:28 am Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Hi,

Nothing to do really.  It might take about 10 minutes for your phone to start 
back up.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Ray T. Mahorney  
wrote:

What should I expect to see during the install process?  When the install 
started the phone shut
down.  What's next and how long do I have to wait until I can go near it again?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA



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Re: some questions with the bard app

[Christopher Chaltain]

This setting is off by default. Once you turn it on, it'll stay on, but 
cellular data will only be used when you're not connected to a wifi 
network. You are right. You need to be careful with this setting since 
BARD books tend to be over 100M.


On 09/27/2013 11:20 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I believe that button is turned off when your connected to a WI-FI
connection such as in a home network.  When you start downloading books
that can run a hundred megs or more you need to exercise caution if you
only have a 2 hundred meg data plan.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain"

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: some questions with the bard app



Note that you can add books to your wish list when viewing the recent
books list from a browser. You just need to click on the books name
and then the add to wish list button.

Also, you don't need a wifi connection to download books. You can do
it over a cellular connection if you want. Just turn the mobile option
to on in the settings tab.

On 09/27/2013 07:57 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

You can add your books to the wish list let's say from using your
computer. They will stay in the wish list folder until your ready to
download then to the bard app.  This helps save disk space on your
iPhone.  If you've got a 64 GB hard drive it probably isn't much of a
concern.  However, if you've only got an 8 gig phone, it may be a very
useful feature.  Note: the bard app will not do simultaneous downloads.
The app will cue your downloads and then download them one at a time.
All that having been said, it's my favorite app on my iPhone.  On trips
I can leave my Victor reader Stream at home.  It's the Stream 1.  My
bard app lets me look for books and download them regardless of where I
am.  I thought when bard went online that it was like having the keys to
the library because I could find something to read any time day or
night.  Now with the bard app for iPhone, I can look for a book any time
of day or night and anywhere I can get a connection to the internet.  It
doesn't get any easier then that.
---

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Alan

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my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: "alia robinson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: some questions with the bard app


this isn't true, at least in the recent books/magazines list. If you tap
on a magazine in this you go directly to download. If you search you
have to add them to the wish list.  I wonder why you can simply download
when in recently added, and not in any other part of the site.

Alia
On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Richard Turner 
wrote:


Hi,
You have to add books to your wish list before you can download them.




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Re: installing IOS 7

[Carol Pearson]

I was just a bit worried when my phone took about 10 minutes to boot, after it 
had said phone booting! Wouldn't it b much better to have had that announcement 
just before it really was rebooting!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 27 Sep 2013, at 12:28 am Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Hi,

Nothing to do really.  It might take about 10 minutes for your phone to start 
back up.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Ray T. Mahorney  
> wrote:
> 
> What should I expect to see during the install process?  When the install 
> started the phone shut
> down.  What's next and how long do I have to wait until I can go near it 
> again?
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
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Re: some questions with the bard app

[Alan Paganelli]

I believe that button is turned off when your connected to a WI-FI 
connection such as in a home network.  When you start downloading books that 
can run a hundred megs or more you need to exercise caution if you only have 
a 2 hundred meg data plan.

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Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: some questions with the bard app


Note that you can add books to your wish list when viewing the recent 
books list from a browser. You just need to click on the books name and 
then the add to wish list button.


Also, you don't need a wifi connection to download books. You can do it 
over a cellular connection if you want. Just turn the mobile option to on 
in the settings tab.


On 09/27/2013 07:57 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

You can add your books to the wish list let's say from using your
computer. They will stay in the wish list folder until your ready to
download then to the bard app.  This helps save disk space on your
iPhone.  If you've got a 64 GB hard drive it probably isn't much of a
concern.  However, if you've only got an 8 gig phone, it may be a very
useful feature.  Note: the bard app will not do simultaneous downloads.
The app will cue your downloads and then download them one at a time.
All that having been said, it's my favorite app on my iPhone.  On trips
I can leave my Victor reader Stream at home.  It's the Stream 1.  My
bard app lets me look for books and download them regardless of where I
am.  I thought when bard went online that it was like having the keys to
the library because I could find something to read any time day or
night.  Now with the bard app for iPhone, I can look for a book any time
of day or night and anywhere I can get a connection to the internet.  It
doesn't get any easier then that.
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the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: "alia robinson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: some questions with the bard app


this isn't true, at least in the recent books/magazines list. If you tap
on a magazine in this you go directly to download. If you search you
have to add them to the wish list.  I wonder why you can simply download
when in recently added, and not in any other part of the site.

Alia
On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Richard Turner 
wrote:


Hi,
You have to add books to your wish list before you can download them.




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RE: calendar and appointment list

[Scott Duck]

Regina,
Hit the search button.  That will give you a list of scheduled events,
basically like it was before IOS7.
HTH,
Scott Duck


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Subject: calendar and appointment list

OK, I must be having a senior moment! LOL! I know I was told to tap
apppointments when in the native calendar to get a list, but I see no
appointment button. Can someone point me to where it is on the screen,
please. Is there a podcast yet on using this calendar? Thanks.



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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Wil James]

 It's not 3 gigs.  It's actually 1.2 gigs.

I can see why folks wit 16 GB phones would bee upset with the exxtra space 
being ttaken up by the upgrade file.  Fortunately, I made sure to secure a 
device with more storage.


Sent from my iPad Mini

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, it seems to me that the bugs in contacts where you can't edit the first 
> or last name of a contact are in and of themselves serious enough to warrant 
> not upgrading. And as somebody with a 32 GB model who doesn't have all that 
> much space left, I really don't want this  3 GB worth of download on my 
> iPhone until I'm ready to upgrade. Chris I don't understand why you don't get 
> this. But to each his own.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't understand the hold out either and actually think this is a good 
>> move on Apple's part. I know iOS 7 contain bugs, but all initial releases of 
>> software, regardless of platform, will have bugs. They will only improve not 
>> worsen over time. I have a few bugs myself in iOS 7 but I cope with them and 
>> they are not deal breakers for me. I guess some of us on here, as well as 
>> some of the general public, do not like change. Well it's what it is so deal 
>> with it. And that's not me being harsh; that's me being realistic.
>> 
>>> On 26/09/2013 16:15, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> For those of you who want/need to stay on iOS 6 for whatever reason, I come 
>>> with some bad news.
>>> According to an article I’ll link to below, Apple is pushing the OTA update 
>>> to 7 automatically to devices that don’t have 7 installed yet, with no user 
>>> consent, and no way to reclaim the lost storage space the update uses when 
>>> downloaded.
>>> http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices
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Re: i message questons

[Teresa Cochran]

IMessage is a special case, hannah. Depending on what contact info a person 
wants to use, you can use an email address. For example, I have an iPod Touch. 
I don't have a mobile number, so I use an email address.

HtH,
Teresa
On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:51 PM, hannah day  wrote:

> Hello all
> 
> Can i ask on another list people are giving out there e-mail address's so 
> people can use them to send i message i don't understand how i can send a i 
> message to a e-mail address as surely it goes off the mobile number
> 
> 
> Sorry if this seems off toppic but just thought i would try chat soon hanah  
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> Skype: hannah.day
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Re: Constantly Asking For Apple Password

[Teresa Cochran]

Find My IPhone has a new feature in ioS7 that requires the Apple ID password to 
be entered before using the phone the first time. i don't think that condition 
applies here. You might try going into your settings, mail, contacts, etc. to 
make sure you have the correct password stored for use with ICloud services.

Hth,
Teresa
On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:21 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:

> It is NOT the passcode, I DO NOT have a passcode on my device. This screen 
> gives my Apple ID and then asks for my Apple password, not passcode.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Constantly Asking For Apple Password
> 
> You're talking about the pass code, but the subject line and original
> message says Apple password, which is something different. I'm just
> pointing this out in case the originator was looking for something else.
> Maybe they could clarify.
> 
> On 09/26/2013 09:12 PM, Tom Frank wrote:
>> Go into Settings, then General,  and down to Password Lock. You can
>> change the setting from Immediately to One minute, five minutes, etc. I
>> changed mine to one hour.
>> 
>> I agree that the password immediately setting is very annoying.
>> 
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "MamaPeach" > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Since updating to IOS 7 on my Ipod Touch 5th Gen, I am constantly
>>> being asked to type in my Apple password. How do I stop this from
>>> happening? I have looked around and can’t find where to stop this. I
>>> thought it might be in iTunes and App Store, but I don’t see it in there.
>>> 
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calendar and appointment list

[Regina Alvarado]

OK, I must be having a senior moment! LOL! I know I was told to tap 
apppointments when in the native calendar to get a list, but I see no 
appointment button. Can someone point me to where it is on the screen, please. 
Is there a podcast yet on using this calendar? Thanks.



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RE: Two finger double tap now not controlling media playback since iOS7.02

[Cristóbal]

I too had this behaviar. Turning the phone off and back on fixed it for me.
What I did notice is that it only happened after I would place the phone in
a speaker dock. I have no idea if that was the cause per say, but just
thought I'd mention in case others are using docks and experiencing the same
issue after using them. In my case, I'm using a 4S.

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Of paras shah
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two finger double tap now not controlling media playback since
iOS7.02

This was an issue for me.
Try to restart the phone.
It will work


On 9/27/13, Robin Christopherson  wrote:
> Guys
>
> I’ve been expecting to see someone flag this since 7.02 came out but 
> maybe it’s just me. Since updating to 7.02 my two finger double tap to 
> start/stop playback from the home screen and in every app has gone. I 
> can do it from the remote and also using the controls on-screen in the 
> relevant app but no two finger double tap (sob). Anyone else experiencing
this?
>
> Thanks, Robin.
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RE: Two finger double tap now not controlling media playback since iOS7.02

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,

 

Have you restarted your phone since the upgrade? The 2-finger double tap
works for me and I suspect that it will for you after you shut down your
phone, wait 30 seconds and start it back up. Oh, and I recommend you throw
all apps out of the app switcher before you reboot.

 

Remember that after you do a restart you first have to start playing music
in the Music app or play audio in another app like Audible or Downcast
before the 2-finger double tap will work. But do that after you restart your
phone, then exit the app to the home screen and try it. I actually lost the
2-finger double tap functionality once or twice even before the 7.02 update
and even on my Bluetooth keyboard F8 wouldn't work, each time everything was
back to normal once I restarted the phone.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Christopherson
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two finger double tap now not controlling media playback since
iOS7.02

 

Guys

 

I've been expecting to see someone flag this since 7.02 came out but maybe
it's just me. Since updating to 7.02 my two finger double tap to start/stop
playback from the home screen and in every app has gone. I can do it from
the remote and also using the controls on-screen in the relevant app but no
two finger double tap (sob). Anyone else experiencing this?

 

Thanks, Robin.

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