Re: Siri

[Tristan]

Hi Hope,
If you're running iOS 7, go to Siri settings, General > Siri. Plug in
your device, either to the wall or your computer. Then, go down to the
voice selection field -- I forget the exact name. change the gender
from male to female, or veisa versa if you have the female voice
selected.
Once this is done, the setting change will trigger your device to
download the necessary files for the high quality voice.

On 7/12/14, BBS  wrote:
> Hi Sieghard. Actually the Siri voice doesn't have anything to do with
> Voiceover so your below steps won't work. Hope, have you tried plugging in
> your device? I found that after plugging it in and waiting a while, the
> more
> expressive voices downloaded. Give it a shot. I hope that helped.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri
>
> Hi Hope,
>
> Go to Voiceover settings and Language and download the high quality voice.
> If you can't find it write to me either on or off list and I provide
> detailed instructions as to how to do this, but right now I have to get to
> work and don't have time to do this. It is fairly straight forward so
> you'll
> probably figure it out.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Hope Paulos
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri
>
> Hello all. Ever since I got my new phone and updated to the latest version
> of iOS, Siri sounds different. It is not the emotional expressive voice,
> but
> the older one. Is this true for everyone else? If not, what is the best way
> to fix this?
> Thanks!
>
>
> Hope Paulos
>
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Re: Very Weird Problem with iPhone 5C and Anchor Wireless Keyboard

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, David,

I don't think the Anker keyboards support all the VO functions. I have one as 
well. The command-VO-arrow keys don't seem to work for me, either. I think 
there's a disclaimer in the VO-specific list of keyboard commands that 
indicates they are for the Apple wireless keyboard.

HtH
Teresa

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> On Jul 11, 2014, at 11:32 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am experiencing a very, very odd and bizarre problem with a recently 
> purchased anchor Apple-compatible keyboard.  After successfully pairing the 
> keyboard with my iPhone, everything works well except for the following issue.
> This keyboard has a layout identical to the typical wireless keyboards you 
> see for Apple devices.  However, when I press control-option-left command 
> with up arrow, the parameter, such as sounds, volume, etc. does not change.  
> When I went into keyboard help with Vo-K, this key combo is silent, as though 
> it's not registering at all.  Here's the odd thing: if I press 
> ctrl-option-right hand command with up arrow, the key combo works but 
> ctrl-option-right command down arrow does not work.  Has anyone encountered 
> this and is there a fix?
> 
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RE: Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Right you are, I guess I should have paid more attention when I read Hope's
message. Even though she said "SIRI shounds different" I just jumped to the
conclusion that she needed to download the high quality Voiceover voices.

Tristan's method should do the trick, if it doesn't then changing the SIRI
language from, for example American English to British English and changing
it back will work as well.


Regards,
Sieghardtotally chanI read about 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri

Hi Sieghard. Actually the Siri voice doesn't have anything to do with
Voiceover so your below steps won't work. Hope, have you tried plugging in
your device? I found that after plugging it in and waiting a while, the more
expressive voices downloaded. Give it a shot. I hope that helped.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri

Hi Hope,

Go to Voiceover settings and Language and download the high quality voice.
If you can't find it write to me either on or off list and I provide
detailed instructions as to how to do this, but right now I have to get to
work and don't have time to do this. It is fairly straight forward so you'll
probably figure it out.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri

Hello all. Ever since I got my new phone and updated to the latest version
of iOS, Siri sounds different. It is not the emotional expressive voice, but
the older one. Is this true for everyone else? If not, what is the best way
to fix this?
Thanks!


Hope Paulos

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Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard

[Joseph FreeTech]

Great detective work! I definitely applaud your diligence!

Joseph the free tech guy!

- Original Message - 
From: "Teresa Cochran" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard


Hi, Joseph,

Just going backto an earlier thread to let you know that I found the escape 
key equivalent for the Anker ultraslim keyboard I have. It's fn+home key. 
Now I can move apps outside folders with my keyboard. Yay. :)

Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

> On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Joseph FreeTech  
> wrote:
>
> On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command
> which simulates the Escape key?
>
> If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm
> considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics 
> is
> actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find
> something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice
> turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm
> placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Teresa Cochran" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth 
> Keyboard
>
>
> Hi, Joseph,
>
> I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a 
> true
> escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process 
> you
> outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in
> the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other
> keyboards, however.
>
> Thanks,
> Teresa
>
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>
>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Teresa and others,
>>
>> I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving
>> apps
>> out of folders, so try this...
>> 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick 
>> an
>> app.
>> (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen
>> then press up and down arrow to open the folder.)
>> 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get
>> audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app.
>> 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that
>> you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which
>> contains the original folder you opened.
>> 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the
>> Home
>> button: VO+Letter H.
>> 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps.
>>
>> Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something
>> else.
>>
>> Note:
>> I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that
>> using
>> this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At
>> times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and 
>> easily,
>> and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do
>> using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a
>> Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or 
>> she
>> is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy
>> and
>> frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this
>> frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I
>> really
>> don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, 
>> but
>> if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason.
>> Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going 
>> to
>> get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you.
>>
>> Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update.
>>
>> Joseph the free tech guy!
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Teresa Cochran" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth
>> Keyboard
>>
>>
>> Hi, Mary and Johnna,
>>
>> The VO keys are control and option pressed together.
>>
>> There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display.
>>
>> As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a
>> folder
>> with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit 
>> mode.
>> Your mileage may vary.
>>
>> Teresa
>>
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Teresa,
>>>
>>> I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I
>>> think you are a braille user, yes?
>>> I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps
>>> not
>>> too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take
>>> advantage of this method there.
>>>
>>> Mary
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>

Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard

[Teresa Cochran]

In this case it was stumbling rather than diligence. I suddenly had a flash of 
an idea, and said to myself: "I wonder what would happen if I press ... these 
keys". I tried it first in keyboard help mode and couldn't believe my ears.

Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Joseph FreeTech  
> wrote:
> 
> Great detective work! I definitely applaud your diligence!
> 
> Joseph the free tech guy!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Teresa Cochran" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi, Joseph,
> 
> Just going backto an earlier thread to let you know that I found the escape 
> key equivalent for the Anker ultraslim keyboard I have. It's fn+home key. 
> Now I can move apps outside folders with my keyboard. Yay. :)
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Joseph FreeTech  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command
>> which simulates the Escape key?
>> 
>> If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm
>> considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics 
>> is
>> actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find
>> something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice
>> turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm
>> placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen.
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Teresa Cochran" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth 
>> Keyboard
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Joseph,
>> 
>> I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a 
>> true
>> escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process 
>> you
>> outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in
>> the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other
>> keyboards, however.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Teresa and others,
>>> 
>>> I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving
>>> apps
>>> out of folders, so try this...
>>> 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick 
>>> an
>>> app.
>>> (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen
>>> then press up and down arrow to open the folder.)
>>> 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get
>>> audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app.
>>> 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that
>>> you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which
>>> contains the original folder you opened.
>>> 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the
>>> Home
>>> button: VO+Letter H.
>>> 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps.
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something
>>> else.
>>> 
>>> Note:
>>> I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that
>>> using
>>> this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At
>>> times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and 
>>> easily,
>>> and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do
>>> using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a
>>> Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or 
>>> she
>>> is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy
>>> and
>>> frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this
>>> frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I
>>> really
>>> don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, 
>>> but
>>> if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason.
>>> Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going 
>>> to
>>> get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you.
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update.
>>> 
>>> Joseph the free tech guy!
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Teresa Cochran" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth
>>> Keyboard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, Mary and Johnna,
>>> 
>>> The VO keys are control and option pressed together.
>>> 
>>> There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display.
>>> 
>>> As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a
>>> folder
>>> with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit 
>>> mode.
>>> Your mileage may

Re: Fingerprint.

[John Panarese]

I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my prints 
and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.  When I set up 
the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several angles during the 
creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your finger on the home 
button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not damp or too cold either. 
 These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for example, if you have just 
washed and dried your hands and your finger might still be cold.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
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On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Kawal,
> 
> When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
> fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
> When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
> successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
> available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
> and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
> improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
> decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
> set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
> recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
> think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
> processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
> than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
> use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
> way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
> it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
> Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
> fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
> woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
> like that, but that's to be expected.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fingerprint.
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
> 
> I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
> later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
> my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
> can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
> Fingerprint will work better.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
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Keyboard Repeats in Spotlight Search

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, which acts like a bug to me. 
When using my Braille display or even occasionally my bluetooth keyboard, if I 
go to the "search iPod" field and type something, I get endless repetitions of 
a random key, and I have to reload Voiceover. This doesn't happen with the 
onscreen keyboard. Does anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard Repeats in Spotlight Search

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

Yes. This happened to me today while typing a text message with my Braille 
display. I posted about this a week or two ago and someone said it had 
something to do with battery life, but both my phone and my Pronto notetaker 
were fully charged at the time. The first time this occurred was before the 
last update.

HTH,
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Jul 2014, at 17:59, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

Hi, all,

I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, which acts like a bug to me. 
When using my Braille display or even occasionally my bluetooth keyboard, if I 
go to the "search iPod" field and type something, I get endless repetitions of 
a random key, and I have to reload Voiceover. This doesn't happen with the 
onscreen keyboard. Does anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
Teresa

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RE: Square card reader

[Karl Smith]

Hello Fellow square users or attempted users.

 

At the NFB convention I spoke with someone who is using Square with a splitter. 
It appears that what you need is a 4 pin splitter which in effect separates’ 
the microphone and headphone circuits in the iPhone headphone jack such that 
you can use a headphone and a separate microphone rather than one with the 
single jack. Well, I got one of these from Radio Shack for about $5.00 and it 
appears to get me a bit further down the road to working. I get audio through 
the headset jack and plug my card reader into the other jack. The software gets 
to the enter credit card number or swipe screen but no matter what I do the 
card won’t register when I swipe it. I do occasionally get a card not charged 
message and if I unplug the reader the message reader disconnected comes up 
indicating that it knew the reader was there. Can anyone tell me what the 
secret is to swiping a card? Is there something I’m not getting? I should also 
say that I tried swiping the card with just the reader plugged directly into 
the iPhone and then removing it to get audio back to see if maybe the reader 
really isn’t connected correctly through the splitter but it still doesn’t 
work. I should also say that I know this reader can work as the guy that cuts 
my lawn has borrowed it on occasion to use on his own iPhone. Any suggestions?

 

Karl

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Square card reader

 

Yes, and it would not work at all once the reader is plugged in.  I found that 
the easiest way to handle it was to plug it in to swipe, then unplug it to get 
speech back.

 

I’d love to know if anyone has been successful with a splitter or with 
Bluetooth.  I found that they did not work for me.

 

Lois

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sumana Silverheels
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Square card reader

 

Lois,

Did you experiment with a splitter to find out if you could use a headset with 
the square reader and have speech output through it? 

 


On Friday, April 18, 2014 6:31:48 AM UTC-4, Lois B wrote:

I did some expensive experimenting yesterday to see how the square reader 
worked with blue tooth, etc.  Bluetooth headphones do not work with the card 
reader plugged in, even if you turn it off and back on after plugging in the 
reader.  The splitter also did not work with regular headphones even though 
the splitter would work if only the reader was plugged in.  Maybe, it is 
some sort of security feature that is built in.  The only way to use the 
reader is to plug it in to swipe the card, then take it out again to sign 
and finish the transaction.  The Bluetooth comes back when you take the 
reader out, likewise the wired headphones. 

If you have silence when you unplug the reader, you will know that the swipe 
was successful and you are at the signature screen.  After signing, you wait 
until you hear it was successful.  Before that, there is no speech.  I will 
get used to it eventually. 

So, it does work, just has a few quirks. 

Good luck, 
Lois 



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Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard battery 
is dying?

Thanks,
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Re: Fingerprint.

[Alan Paganelli]

When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my finger. 
 When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a slightly 
different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my finger.  
Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a keyboard.  Each 
time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no problems at all getting 
the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my thumb and index finger of both 
hands as these would be the fingers I would most often use.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my prints 
> and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.  When I set 
> up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several angles during 
> the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your finger on the 
> home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not damp or too cold 
> either.  These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for example, if you 
> have just washed and dried your hands and your finger might still be cold.
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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> Lion
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
>> fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
>> When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
>> successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
>> available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit

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Re: Fingerprint.

[Joseph]

Hello,
How many fingerprints can be input into the phone?

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Alan Paganelli  
wrote:

> When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my 
> finger.  When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a 
> slightly different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my 
> finger.  Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a 
> keyboard.  Each time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no problems 
> at all getting the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my thumb and 
> index finger of both hands as these would be the fingers I would most often 
> use.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my prints 
>> and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.  When I set 
>> up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several angles during 
>> the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your finger on the 
>> home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not damp or too cold 
>> either.  These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for example, if you 
>> have just washed and dried your hands and your finger might still be cold.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
>> Lion
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
>>> fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
>>> When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
>>> successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
>>> available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
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Making phone calls on an iPod

[Donald L. Roberts]

I would like to know if there are options other than Skype for making 
outgoing phone calls from a fifth generation iPod.


I downloaded the Vonage IOS app thinking that it might be an option, but 
it won't work on an iPod as it requires a mobile phone number to be 
inserted during the setup process.


Please let me know of other viable options.  Thanks.

Don Roberts

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What's with the Siri behavior when on LTE?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Siri works well for me when on WiFi. When on LTE it cuts out very early, to the 
point it's not useful. Any ideas or help?

For example, I ask Siri to Find tom's Music Store. Siri says, I found one 
close" And then it's done. On WiFi, it tells me full details and asks me if 
that's the right one.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Alan Paganelli]

Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when the 
keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible keyboard 
I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back up.  It only 
takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not like it's the end 
of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try to recharge it once a 
week.

HTH



Alan

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard battery 
> is dying?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
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Re: Making phone calls on an iPod

[Alex Hall]

If the person you are calling uses an iPhone or has set up their Mac, you can 
FaceTime or FaceTime Audio call them. This requires only their Apple ID email 
address, or the phone number of their iPhone. You can also receive calls the 
same way, just like you do iMessages. For non-Apple people, you might have a 
harder time of it, though Skype is really a nice option.
On Jul 12, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Donald L. Roberts  
wrote:

> I would like to know if there are options other than Skype for making 
> outgoing phone calls from a fifth generation iPod.
> 
> I downloaded the Vonage IOS app thinking that it might be an option, but it 
> won't work on an iPod as it requires a mobile phone number to be inserted 
> during the setup process.
> 
> Please let me know of other viable options.  Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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Re: Square card reader

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

did you try turning up the volume?  I read some where that that does 
something to the card reader .and helps it take cards.

Hank

On 7/12/2014 9:29 AM, Karl Smith wrote:


Hello Fellow square users or attempted users.

At the NFB convention I spoke with someone who is using Square with a 
splitter. It appears that what you need is a 4 pin splitter which in 
effect separates’ the microphone and headphone circuits in the iPhone 
headphone jack such that you can use a headphone and a separate 
microphone rather than one with the single jack. Well, I got one of 
these from Radio Shack for about $5.00 and it appears to get me a bit 
further down the road to working. I get audio through the headset jack 
and plug my card reader into the other jack. The software gets to the 
enter credit card number or swipe screen but no matter what I do the 
card won’t register when I swipe it. I do occasionally get a card not 
charged message and if I unplug the reader the message reader 
disconnected comes up indicating that it knew the reader was there. 
Can anyone tell me what the secret is to swiping a card? Is there 
something I’m not getting? I should also say that I tried swiping the 
card with just the reader plugged directly into the iPhone and then 
removing it to get audio back to see if maybe the reader really isn’t 
connected correctly through the splitter but it still doesn’t work. I 
should also say that I know this reader can work as the guy that cuts 
my lawn has borrowed it on occasion to use on his own iPhone. Any 
suggestions?


Karl

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*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Lois Butterfield

*Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 12:45 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Square card reader

Yes, and it would not work at all once the reader is plugged in.  I 
found that the easiest way to handle it was to plug it in to swipe, 
then unplug it to get speech back.


I’d love to know if anyone has been successful with a splitter or with 
Bluetooth.  I found that they did not work for me.


Lois

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sumana Silverheels

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Square card reader

Lois,

Did you experiment with a splitter to find out if you could use a 
headset with the square reader and have speech output through it?



On Friday, April 18, 2014 6:31:48 AM UTC-4, Lois B wrote:

I did some expensive experimenting yesterday to see how the square
reader
worked with blue tooth, etc.  Bluetooth headphones do not work
with the card
reader plugged in, even if you turn it off and back on after
plugging in the
reader.  The splitter also did not work with regular headphones
even though
the splitter would work if only the reader was plugged in.  Maybe,
it is
some sort of security feature that is built in.  The only way to
use the
reader is to plug it in to swipe the card, then take it out again
to sign
and finish the transaction.  The Bluetooth comes back when you
take the
reader out, likewise the wired headphones.

If you have silence when you unplug the reader, you will know that
the swipe
was successful and you are at the signature screen.  After
signing, you wait
until you hear it was successful.  Before that, there is no
speech.  I will
get used to it eventually.

So, it does work, just has a few quirks.

Good luck,
Lois

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RE: Making phone calls on an iPod

[DJ]

Try freedom pop.  They give you 200 free minutes every month and it seems to
be reliable.

DJ 

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Subject: Making phone calls on an iPod

I would like to know if there are options other than Skype for making
outgoing phone calls from a fifth generation iPod.

I downloaded the Vonage IOS app thinking that it might be an option, but it
won't work on an iPod as it requires a mobile phone number to be inserted
during the setup process.

Please let me know of other viable options.  Thanks.

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Re: Very Weird Problem with iPhone 5C and Anchor Wireless Keyboard

['David Goldfield' via VIPhone]

Teresa,
thank you for your response.  The name of the keyboard, which I should 
have specified in my initial message, is the Anker T300. Every other key 
combo works well.  As a matter of principle, I'd likely return it but 
the original packaging isn't in the most usable state.  The VO-command 
combo with arrow keys work; the keyboard just seems picky about whether 
the left command or right command key is used.  Other than this one 
quirk, I haven't noticed other combinations which don't work.  I can 
live with it but I find it annoying and I've never encountered such a 
thing on non-Microsoft keyboards for Windows computers.  Again, thanks 
for at least confirming that this isn't just me.


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On 7/12/2014 4:05 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, David,

I don't think the Anker keyboards support all the VO functions. I have one as 
well. The command-VO-arrow keys don't seem to work for me, either. I think 
there's a disclaimer in the VO-specific list of keyboard commands that 
indicates they are for the Apple wireless keyboard.

HtH
Teresa

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I am experiencing a very, very odd and bizarre problem with a recently 
purchased anchor Apple-compatible keyboard.  After successfully pairing the 
keyboard with my iPhone, everything works well except for the following issue.
This keyboard has a layout identical to the typical wireless keyboards you see 
for Apple devices.  However, when I press control-option-left command with up 
arrow, the parameter, such as sounds, volume, etc. does not change.  When I 
went into keyboard help with Vo-K, this key combo is silent, as though it's not 
registering at all.  Here's the odd thing: if I press ctrl-option-right hand 
command with up arrow, the key combo works but ctrl-option-right command down 
arrow does not work.  Has anyone encountered this and is there a fix?


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Re: Fingerprint.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

If those of you who use to use an optican, that is how I placed my thumb and 
index finger alternatively to get the finger print to recognise. I will try it 
again though and see what happens.

Thank you.

Kawal.

> On 12 Jul 2014, at 07:33 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
> fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
> When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
> successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
> available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
> and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
> improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
> decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
> set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
> recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
> think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
> processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
> than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
> use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
> way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
> it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
> Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
> fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
> woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
> like that, but that's to be expected.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> 
> Hello.
> 
> Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
> 
> I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
> later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
> my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
> can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
> Fingerprint will work better.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Teresa Cochran]

LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for telltale 
warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and hopefully not 
having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a charge.

Thanks,
Teresa 

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli  
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> 
> Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when the 
> keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
> keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
> up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
> like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try to 
> recharge it once a week.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
>> battery is dying?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
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RE: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status bar, 
before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend headset 
battery indicator is listed there.

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Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for telltale 
warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and hopefully not 
having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a charge.

Thanks,
Teresa 

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when the 
> keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
> keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
> up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
> like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try to 
> recharge it once a week.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
>> battery is dying?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
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RE: Sharing Files on OneDrive

[Joe]

Fantastic. Thank you! I'd been contemplating just switching over to Dropbox
to hold My Documents, but your explanation of OneDrive makes that app more
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Subject: Sharing Files on OneDrive

Hi all,

Just thought I would add that the procedure I outlined below is just like
sending a file through Dropbox. The major difference is that you will be
using Microsoft's OneDrive, but this also means you will have some 5gb or
7gb of space for free. Here is more info:

OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive) By Microsoft Corporation Free
Compatibility: Requires iOS 7.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and
iPod touch. This app is optimized for iPhone 5.

Description

OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive) is the one place for everything in your life. 
Easily store and share photos, videos, documents, and more. When you upload
photos or videos from your iPhone or iPad to OneDrive, you can get to them
when you're on your PC, Mac, tablet, or phone. With OneDrive for iOS, you
can easily get to, manage, and share files on the go:

. Automatically upload photos and videos to OneDrive using Camera Backup.
. Browse all your OneDrive files and files shared with you.
. Share files by sending a link in email or getting a link to copy and
paste.
. Move, delete, and rename files, and create new folders.
. Open your OneDrive files in other apps, including Office Mobile for
iPhone.
. Quickly get to documents you've recently opened.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onedrive-formerly-skydrive/id477537958?mt=8

HTH

Joseph the free tech guy!

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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Sharing Files on OneDrive


Hi Joe,

To share/send a file via OneDrive on iOS:
1. Make sure you are on the "Files" tab (double-tap bottom left-hand corner
of screen).

2. From top of the screen swipe to the right and pick from various
categories such as Documents, Entertainment, Music, etc. Double-tap on one
of these items as it is actually a folder.

3. Swipe to and double-tap on the following item: Toolbar overflow.
Double-tap on "Select items."

4. On this new screen you will be shown a list of your files. Double-tap on
a file to select it. Keep in mind that when you double-tap on the name of
the file, it will be selected, but VoiceOver will not convey this to you. If
you go to the very top line of the screen you will be notified of the number
of files selected.
Note: to deselect a file, simply swipe to it and double-tap again.

5. After files have been selected, swipe to the "Share button" and
double-tap. You will be presented with options such as "Send link in email,"
or "Copy link to clipboard.

6. Which ever you choose, you will be presented with a prompt asking you to
specify if the person can simply view the file or edit too. Make a choice
and double-tap on it.

7. You will now go through the normal email procedure.

Hope that helps, and please let me know if you have any further questions.

Joseph the free tech guy!

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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: Sharing Files on OneDrive


Hi, has anyone had success navigating Microsoft's OneDrive app? I can get
into and out of folders just fine. I can read the files okay, but I don't
see how to share files via e-mail and such. Thank you in advance for any
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Teresa Cochran]

No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard or for 
the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info areas, either.

Teresa

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>  wrote:
> 
> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status bar, 
> before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend headset 
> battery indicator is listed there.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
> 
> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for 
> telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and 
> hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a 
> charge.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa 
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when 
>> the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
>> keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
>> up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
>> like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try to 
>> recharge it once a week.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
>>> battery is dying?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Cheryl Homiak]

My braille display gives me its own warning and I do sometimes get warnings 
about my Logitech keyboard also. Some keyboards do show the battery level in 
the bluetooth menu in extras if you hold the option key down when accessing the 
menu but some don't.


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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard or for 
> the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info areas, either.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status bar, 
>> before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend headset 
>> battery indicator is listed there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
>> 
>> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for 
>> telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and 
>> hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a 
>> charge.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa 
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when 
>>> the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
>>> keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
>>> up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
>>> like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try 
>>> to recharge it once a week.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
 battery is dying?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

How comes you don't use an Apple Bluetooth keyboard? 

> On 12 Jul 2014, at 08:29 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard or for 
> the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info areas, either.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status bar, 
>> before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend headset 
>> battery indicator is listed there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
>> 
>> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for 
>> telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and 
>> hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a 
>> charge.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa 
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when 
>>> the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
>>> keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
>>> up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
>>> like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try 
>>> to recharge it once a week.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
 battery is dying?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Gmail]

If you want your brightness to stay at zero, you'll have to make sure to turn 
off the auto brightness setting in settings/brightness and wallpaper. Then you 
can turn your brightness down to zero and it will stay there. I do things this 
way because I rarely give my phone to sighted people. If I do need to show 
someone something, I just turn up the brightness using the control center, then 
turn off VoiceOver. When they give the phone back to me, I just turn VO back 
on, turn down the brightness, and continue with what I was doing earlier.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jose,
> 
> As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
> blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
> phone from a few feet away.
> 
> The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
> artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
> screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
> Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
> curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
> using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
> you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
> 0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
> it is much more difficult especially in bright light.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jose Lomeli
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Jose Lomeli
> Subject: Screen curtain!
> 
> Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
> it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
> battery? Please let me know!
> 
> Jose Lomeli
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Re: KNFB Reader App

[Devin Prater]

Yes, it reminds meow the bookshare read2go app. $20, and it's barely updated, 
and hasn't even taken advantage of the iOS7 voice api openings and all that, 
and we still have to switch sections to get to more content than a section or 
chapter rather than it automatically scrolling. $20 for a dead app, and $99 for 
the same mortality of apps, for the blind. Voice-dream, however, services all, 
and is updated a lot.
Devin Prater
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On Jul 10, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:

> Thanks, andy.
> 
> Well, that gives me pause about this app.
> 
> I don't think there's one app I rely upon for regular use that hasn't 
> undergone regular upgrades, as newer devices are introduced and newer 
> versions of iOS are released. I'm hesitant to consider investing $99 in what 
> might be a "one and done" app whose developer isn't inclined towards 
> maintaining cutting edge functionality with the latest hardware and/or 
> software developments.
> 
> Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
> 
> It hasn't been updated in a few years, and the phones it runs on haven't 
> been manufactured in years.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:12 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
> 
> I'm curious if users of the established KNFB app with the Nokia can comment 
> on whether and how often the app was upgraded? Was it "one and done" or did 
> it undergo continuing development?
> 
> Thanks. Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Karl Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
> 
> I don't know about the apps such as Prizmo but when I used the KNFB app on 
> my old Nokia phone I did on occasion get information off my laptop screen 
> when the computer would suddenly not come up with speech and find out if I 
> needed to hit enter or escape or whatever. I also read my XM radio screen at 
> times. Sometimes you get a lot of junk with the scan but usually I could get 
> enough information to tell me what I needed to do.
> 
> Karl
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
> 
> so I should be able to read my computer screen and other screens that have 
> minues with this app?
> 
> On 7/9/2014 2:21 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
>> Yes, all of the mentioned apps do real-time OCR directly on the iPhone.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:59, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona"
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> will it do real time ocr?
>>> 
 On 7/7/2014 4:48 PM, Fred Olver wrote:
 It will be available in late August.
 
 Fred Olver
 - Original Message - From: "Becky" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
 
 
 Hi all
 When will you be able to purchase this app?
 Vecky Sabo
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 7, 2014, at 12:18 PM, AppleGourmet  wrote:
 
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB
 Reader
> with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
> purchase and thought it was great value. He has been using it for the past 
> five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to 
> be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for 
> $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with 
> other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.
 
 
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Flor Lynch]

On the Freedom Scientific braille displays - such as the focus Blue - if
you turn off voiceover (or the computer) and navigate on the display,
you get its battery percentage remaining. Also the leftmost cursor 
routing button blinks when it gets to below 10% (I think).


- Original Message - 
From: "Teresa Cochran" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?


No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard
or for the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info
areas, either.

Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan


On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
 wrote:

Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status
bar, before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager
Legend headset battery indicator is listed there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for
telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and
hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs
a charge.

Thanks,
Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan


On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli
 wrote:

Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent,
when the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth
rechargible keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs
to be charged back up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to
fully charged so it's not like it's the end of the world.  If I
remember and I usually don't, I try to recharge it once a week.

HTH



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran 
wrote:

Hi, all,

Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth
keyboard battery is dying?

Thanks,
Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

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Re: Fingerprint.

[Alan Paganelli]

I haven't experienced anything like what you described on my iPhone 5s.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
Subject: Fingerprint.


Hello.

Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?

I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week 
later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought 
my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I 
can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the 
Fingerprint will work better.


Thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: KNFB Reader App

[Alex Hall]

That seems an unfair assumption to make, given that we have no information. 
MBraille is a blind-specific app, but it gets regular updates, the developer 
runs a discussion list for his product, and he is responsive to user feedback. 
I'm just saying we can't know the future of any app if said app hasn't even 
been released yet. Plus, to my knowledge, this will be this company's first ap, 
so we have no reputation to use as a guide.
On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Yes, it reminds meow the bookshare read2go app. $20, and it's barely updated, 
> and hasn't even taken advantage of the iOS7 voice api openings and all that, 
> and we still have to switch sections to get to more content than a section or 
> chapter rather than it automatically scrolling. $20 for a dead app, and $99 
> for the same mortality of apps, for the blind. Voice-dream, however, services 
> all, and is updated a lot.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, andy.
>> 
>> Well, that gives me pause about this app.
>> 
>> I don't think there's one app I rely upon for regular use that hasn't 
>> undergone regular upgrades, as newer devices are introduced and newer 
>> versions of iOS are released. I'm hesitant to consider investing $99 in what 
>> might be a "one and done" app whose developer isn't inclined towards 
>> maintaining cutting edge functionality with the latest hardware and/or 
>> software developments.
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
>> 
>> It hasn't been updated in a few years, and the phones it runs on haven't 
>> been manufactured in years.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:12 PM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
>> 
>> I'm curious if users of the established KNFB app with the Nokia can comment 
>> on whether and how often the app was upgraded? Was it "one and done" or did 
>> it undergo continuing development?
>> 
>> Thanks. Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Karl Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
>> 
>> I don't know about the apps such as Prizmo but when I used the KNFB app on 
>> my old Nokia phone I did on occasion get information off my laptop screen 
>> when the computer would suddenly not come up with speech and find out if I 
>> needed to hit enter or escape or whatever. I also read my XM radio screen at 
>> times. Sometimes you get a lot of junk with the scan but usually I could get 
>> enough information to tell me what I needed to do.
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> 
>> __
>> 
>> Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant Axis
>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
>> 
>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>> Fax: 866-824-7885
>> E-mail: k...@axistech.net
>> Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech
>> 
>> My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
>> 
>> so I should be able to read my computer screen and other screens that have 
>> minues with this app?
>> 
>> On 7/9/2014 2:21 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>> Yes, all of the mentioned apps do real-time OCR directly on the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:59, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona"
>>  wrote:
 
 will it do real time ocr?
 
> On 7/7/2014 4:48 PM, Fred Olver wrote:
> It will be available in late August.
> 
> Fred Olver
> - Original Message - From: "Becky" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
> 
> 
> Hi all
> When will you be able to purchase this app?
> Vecky Sabo
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 7, 2014, at 12:18 PM, AppleGourmet  wrote:
> 
> About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB
> Reader
>> with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
>> purchase and thought it was great value. He has been using it for the past 
>> five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to 
>> be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for 
>> $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding applicatio

Re: Fingerprint.

[Alan Paganelli]

I believe up to 5.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Fingerprint.


Hello,
How many fingerprints can be input into the phone?

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Alan Paganelli  
wrote:


When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my 
finger.  When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a 
slightly different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my 
finger.  Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a 
keyboard.  Each time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no 
problems at all getting the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my 
thumb and index finger of both hands as these would be the fingers I would 
most often use.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese  wrote:

  I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my 
prints and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use. 
When I set up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several 
angles during the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place 
your finger on the home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure 
it's not damp or too cold either.  These factors seem to effect 
recognition, so, for example, if you have just washed and dried your 
hands and your finger might still be cold.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
Mountain Lion


AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT





On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Kawal,

When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
different
fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 
spots?

When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a 
bit


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RE: Fingerprint.

[Ron Pelletier]

Sieghard,

The cuts and residue on fingers is the reason why I scanned 3 fingers in one
hand and the thumb and index in my left hand. That way, no matter what,
there is always a finger that works.  I mostly use my right index or right
thumb but, if needed, I have 3 other fingers.
I never lend my phone to anyone so I didn't need any spare print
possibilities. If a telephone is shared, well, you can't use them all
yourself

Ron & Danvers  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint.

Hi Kawal,

When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
like that, but that's to be expected.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint.

Hello.

Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?

I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
Fingerprint will work better.

Thanks.

Kawal.

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RE: Fingerprint.

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

You can input 5 prints

Ron & Danvers


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Of Joseph
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fingerprint.

Hello,
How many fingerprints can be input into the phone?

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Alan Paganelli 
wrote:

> When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my
finger.  When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a
slightly different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my
finger.  Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a
keyboard.  Each time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no
problems at all getting the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my
thumb and index finger of both hands as these would be the fingers I would
most often use.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my
prints and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.
When I set up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several
angles during the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your
finger on the home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not
damp or too cold either.  These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for
example, if you have just washed and dried your hands and your finger might
still be cold.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>> Mountain Lion
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
>>> different fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the
available 5 spots?
>>> When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more 
>>> successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of 
>>> the available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked 
>>> well for a bit
> 
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RE: Fingerprint.

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

If you are a Braille reader, use the same part of your finger you would use
to use Braille. Not the tip.

Ron & Danvers


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fingerprint.

If those of you who use to use an optican, that is how I placed my thumb and
index finger alternatively to get the finger print to recognise. I will try
it again though and see what happens.

Thank you.

Kawal.

> On 12 Jul 2014, at 07:33 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
> different fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the
available 5 spots?
> When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more 
> successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the 
> available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for 
> a bit and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed 
> to bring improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at 
> one point I decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. 
> I did this and set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint 
> spot. Ever since this my recognition rate is I would say very close to 
> 100% and also much faster. I think having scanned my thumb 3 times on 
> different spots just caused the processor to do unnecessary 
> calculations and it apparently did more harm than good. I also found 
> that the success rate is much better if you don't use the very tip of 
> your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half way between 
> the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when it asks
you to scan the edges of your finger.
> Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely 
> fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch 
> of woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue 
> or stuff like that, but that's to be expected.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fingerprint.
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
> 
> I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week 
> later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I 
> bought my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone 
> now so that I can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's 
> out hope that the Fingerprint will work better.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Teresa Cochran]

To be honest, the keyboard I got was less expensive, but I will probabl get an 
Apple one when I get an iPad. I couldn't pass up the good reviews and $30 US 
discount on this one from Amazon. :) I also wanted to experiment to see if a 
bluetooth keyboard was a good option for me. It apparently is.

Teresa

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> How comes you don't use an Apple Bluetooth keyboard? 
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2014, at 08:29 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard or 
>> for the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info areas, 
>> either.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status bar, 
>>> before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend headset 
>>> battery indicator is listed there.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Teresa Cochran
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
>>> 
>>> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for 
>>> telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and 
>>> hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a 
>>> charge.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa 
>>> 
>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>> 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli 
  wrote:
 
 Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when 
 the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
 keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
 up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
 like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try 
 to recharge it once a week.
 
 HTH
 
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
> battery is dying?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, my Braille display does this. My keyboard, according to the forum posts 
I've seen, doesn't even have a visuual meter. So I'll just expect it to start 
behaving erratically when the battery starts going.

Teresa

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> On the Freedom Scientific braille displays - such as the focus Blue - if
> you turn off voiceover (or the computer) and navigate on the display,
> you get its battery percentage remaining. Also the leftmost cursor routing 
> button blinks when it gets to below 10% (I think).
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
> 
> 
> No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard
> or for the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info
> areas, either.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status
>> bar, before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager
>> Legend headset battery indicator is listed there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
>> 
>> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for
>> telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and
>> hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs
>> a charge.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent,
>>> when the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth
>>> rechargible keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs
>>> to be charged back up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to
>>> fully charged so it's not like it's the end of the world.  If I
>>> remember and I usually don't, I try to recharge it once a week.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth
 keyboard battery is dying?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Cheryl,

I'm assuming you're referring to the menu extras on the Mac? I no longer have a 
computer, and I checked the status bar on my iPod, even using 
option-right-arrow, but no dice. Hey, it doesn't hurt to try, right? :)

Teresa

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> My braille display gives me its own warning and I do sometimes get warnings 
> about my Logitech keyboard also. Some keyboards do show the battery level in 
> the bluetooth menu in extras if you hold the option key down when accessing 
> the menu but some don't.
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard or 
>> for the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info areas, 
>> either.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status bar, 
>>> before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend headset 
>>> battery indicator is listed there.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Teresa Cochran
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
>>> 
>>> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for 
>>> telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and 
>>> hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a 
>>> charge.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa 
>>> 
>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>> 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli 
  wrote:
 
 Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent, when 
 the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth rechargible 
 keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be charged back 
 up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged so it's not 
 like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually don't, I try 
 to recharge it once a week.
 
 HTH
 
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard 
> battery is dying?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

[David Chittenden]

This is an incorrect statement. KNFB Reading Technologies developed and sold 
the KNFB Reader for Nokia Phones running on the Symbian platform. As I recall, 
they came out with one or two updates per year, so that is what I will 
initially expect from them with their second app.

Also, KNFB Reader for Nokia did not invent anything. The OCR software they used 
for the Symbian platform came from a company in England. The page edge 
detection for Symbian platform came from a company in Europe. This was easy to 
figure out by going through the list of copyrights and trademarks which was 
included with the KNFB Reader.

I have already tracked down probable OCR technology and page detection 
technology apps for iPhone that I suspect KNFB Reader is utilising for their 
$99 app.

I was a little surprised to read that NFB sponsored $11.5 million for the 
iPhone app. For the Nokia app, KNFB Reader utilised over a million dollars of 
federal research grant moneys.

Yes, these are some of the reasons why I am very cynical of the extremely high 
pricing of the app. I have no doubt it will work as advertised.

One final comment: taking a picture of a PowerPoint presentation from 22 feet 
away and having KNFB Reader recognise it was purely a publicity stunt. I can do 
the same with any other OCR app and it will work just as well, so long as the 
image of the print is in focus.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Jul 2014, at 9:48, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> That seems an unfair assumption to make, given that we have no information. 
> MBraille is a blind-specific app, but it gets regular updates, the developer 
> runs a discussion list for his product, and he is responsive to user 
> feedback. I'm just saying we can't know the future of any app if said app 
> hasn't even been released yet. Plus, to my knowledge, this will be this 
> company's first ap, so we have no reputation to use as a guide.
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it reminds meow the bookshare read2go app. $20, and it's barely 
>> updated, and hasn't even taken advantage of the iOS7 voice api openings and 
>> all that, and we still have to switch sections to get to more content than a 
>> section or chapter rather than it automatically scrolling. $20 for a dead 
>> app, and $99 for the same mortality of apps, for the blind. Voice-dream, 
>> however, services all, and is updated a lot.
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, andy.
>>> 
>>> Well, that gives me pause about this app.
>>> 
>>> I don't think there's one app I rely upon for regular use that hasn't 
>>> undergone regular upgrades, as newer devices are introduced and newer 
>>> versions of iOS are released. I'm hesitant to consider investing $99 in 
>>> what might be a "one and done" app whose developer isn't inclined towards 
>>> maintaining cutting edge functionality with the latest hardware and/or 
>>> software developments.
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
>>> 
>>> It hasn't been updated in a few years, and the phones it runs on haven't 
>>> been manufactured in years.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:12 PM
>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
>>> 
>>> I'm curious if users of the established KNFB app with the Nokia can comment 
>>> on whether and how often the app was upgraded? Was it "one and done" or did 
>>> it undergo continuing development?
>>> 
>>> Thanks. Keith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Karl Smith
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
>>> 
>>> I don't know about the apps such as Prizmo but when I used the KNFB app on 
>>> my old Nokia phone I did on occasion get information off my laptop screen 
>>> when the computer would suddenly not come up with speech and find out if I 
>>> needed to hit enter or escape or whatever. I also read my XM radio screen 
>>> at 
>>> times. Sometimes you get a lot of junk with the scan but usually I could 
>>> get 
>>> enough information to tell me what I needed to do.
>>> 
>>> Karl
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

[Alex Hall]

Good point. I was thinking of iOS apps specifically, but in retrospect, of 
course this company made the original KNFB application and hardware solution. 
Thanks for pointing that out.
On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:24 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> This is an incorrect statement. KNFB Reading Technologies developed and sold 
> the KNFB Reader for Nokia Phones running on the Symbian platform. As I 
> recall, they came out with one or two updates per year, so that is what I 
> will initially expect from them with their second app.
> 
> Also, KNFB Reader for Nokia did not invent anything. The OCR software they 
> used for the Symbian platform came from a company in England. The page edge 
> detection for Symbian platform came from a company in Europe. This was easy 
> to figure out by going through the list of copyrights and trademarks which 
> was included with the KNFB Reader.
> 
> I have already tracked down probable OCR technology and page detection 
> technology apps for iPhone that I suspect KNFB Reader is utilising for their 
> $99 app.
> 
> I was a little surprised to read that NFB sponsored $11.5 million for the 
> iPhone app. For the Nokia app, KNFB Reader utilised over a million dollars of 
> federal research grant moneys.
> 
> Yes, these are some of the reasons why I am very cynical of the extremely 
> high pricing of the app. I have no doubt it will work as advertised.
> 
> One final comment: taking a picture of a PowerPoint presentation from 22 feet 
> away and having KNFB Reader recognise it was purely a publicity stunt. I can 
> do the same with any other OCR app and it will work just as well, so long as 
> the image of the print is in focus.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13 Jul 2014, at 9:48, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> That seems an unfair assumption to make, given that we have no information. 
>> MBraille is a blind-specific app, but it gets regular updates, the developer 
>> runs a discussion list for his product, and he is responsive to user 
>> feedback. I'm just saying we can't know the future of any app if said app 
>> hasn't even been released yet. Plus, to my knowledge, this will be this 
>> company's first ap, so we have no reputation to use as a guide.
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it reminds meow the bookshare read2go app. $20, and it's barely 
>>> updated, and hasn't even taken advantage of the iOS7 voice api openings and 
>>> all that, and we still have to switch sections to get to more content than 
>>> a section or chapter rather than it automatically scrolling. $20 for a dead 
>>> app, and $99 for the same mortality of apps, for the blind. Voice-dream, 
>>> however, services all, and is updated a lot.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks, andy.
 
 Well, that gives me pause about this app.
 
 I don't think there's one app I rely upon for regular use that hasn't 
 undergone regular upgrades, as newer devices are introduced and newer 
 versions of iOS are released. I'm hesitant to consider investing $99 in 
 what might be a "one and done" app whose developer isn't inclined towards 
 maintaining cutting edge functionality with the latest hardware and/or 
 software developments.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Andy Baracco
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
 
 It hasn't been updated in a few years, and the phones it runs on haven't 
 been manufactured in years.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:12 PM
 To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
 Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
 
 I'm curious if users of the established KNFB app with the Nokia can 
 comment 
 on whether and how often the app was upgraded? Was it "one and done" or 
 did 
 it undergo continuing development?
 
 Thanks. Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Karl Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:38 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
 
 I don't know about the apps such as Prizmo but when I used the KNFB app on 
 my old Nokia phone I did on occasion get information off my laptop screen 
 when the computer would suddenly not come up with speech and find out if I 
 needed to hit enter or escape or whatever. I also read my XM radio screen 
 at 
 times. Sometimes you get a lot of junk with the scan but usually I could 
 get 
 enough information to tell me what I needed 

Re: What's with the Siri behavior when on LTE?

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Keith, I find if I have more than three bars wall on LTE, Siri does not work 
as well. If at all, and sometimes too I think it may depend on the carrier 
however, I have not experienced the issue that you're having. The course 
however, I have experienced something similar to it as I explained above.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:38 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Siri works well for me when on WiFi. When on LTE it cuts out very early, to 
> the point it’s not useful. Any ideas or help?
>  
> For example, I ask Siri to Find tom’s Music Store. Siri says, I found one 
> close….” And then it’s done. On WiFi, it tells me full details and asks me if 
> that’s the right one.
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
>  
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Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All,

I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the phone 
case and received the same problem of the famous error message of make sure ... 
I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was wondering if others 
were having the same issue. I know there is text on the item I am attempting to 
scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has some other tips for me to try, 
send them my way. In the mean time, I'll keep playing around in positioning the 
camera in the aperture on top to see where the sweet spot is.
Thanks for your help in advance.

Best,
Eileen


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Help, I think I broke my copy of Prizmo.

[Julia]

Hi list.
Today I was experimenting with scanning free hand with Prizmo. My 
first attempt wasn't very successful, so I changed some settings in the 
hopes of better results. I have no idea what I did, but now the app 
won't work properly when I use quick capture to try to take a picture of 
the text. When I double tap the button, it now says take picture 
heading, and sits there for a minute or two, even when I hit cancel, the 
app still vibrates like it is detecting a page. It does eventually 
sometimes take a picture, but not the speedy way it did before. The 
settings I changed are, detect text orientation from off to on,camera 
flash from auto to on, I set the recognition language to English, and I 
changed the paper size to U.S. Letter. I have tried deleting the app and 
downloading it again, but it looks like it remembered my previous 
settings. Is there perhaps a way to set it back to default? I didn't see 
any option like that.

Any suggestions about how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Julia

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Re: Making phone calls on an iPod

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Don Roberts, magicJack, or Talkatone which used to work with Google voice 
will do this for you. All you have to do is register.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:35 PM, "Donald L. Roberts" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would like to know if there are options other than Skype for making 
> outgoing phone calls from a fifth generation iPod.
> 
> I downloaded the Vonage IOS app thinking that it might be an option, but it 
> won't work on an iPod as it requires a mobile phone number to be inserted 
> during the setup process.
> 
> Please let me know of other viable options.  Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[David Chittenden]

Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not have 
the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make certain the 
flash is in the hole as well.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
> StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
> contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
> phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of make 
> sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was wondering 
> if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the item I am 
> attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has some other tips 
> for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll keep playing around 
> in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see where the sweet spot 
> is.
> Thanks for your help in advance.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> 
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Re: Text Grabber Not Capturing The OCR With The StandScan Pro

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello David,

Of course, the lights are on in the StandScan Pro and the camera is (what I 
think) is properly positioned in the aperture whole on the top of the StandScan 
Pro. For one who has gotten almost a perfect scan on the first attempt of each 
scan, this is a new behavior for me. That's why I posted. In the past, the only 
time I received the error was if the page was blank or if there was some funny 
font the app didn't like. There must be something different about the current 
version. Maybe Sandy will pipe in. I nicked named her "the queen of OCH'" 

Thanks for your post.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:05 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Make certain the camera lens is over  the hole in the top. If you do not have 
> the lights in the stand ScanPro turned on, you also need to make certain the 
> flash is in the hole as well.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Jul 2014, at 16:00, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I finally sat down to organize my paperwork using Text Grabber and the 
>> StandScan Pro. I did swap out my case on the phone to see if this was 
>> contributing to the lack of capturing the text in OCR. I changed out the 
>> phone case and received the same problem of the famous error message of make 
>> sure ... I am running the current version of Text Glabber and I was 
>> wondering if others were having the same issue. I know there is text on the 
>> item I am attempting to scan, so that's not the problem. If any one has some 
>> other tips for me to try, send them my way. In the mean time, I'll keep 
>> playing around in positioning the camera in the aperture on top to see where 
>> the sweet spot is.
>> Thanks for your help in advance.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Teresa,

The Apple Wireless keyboard is quite nice, but I think the Logitech K811 is
nicer. It's just as small, feels just as well-made but it has 2 big
advantages: 

1. It has a physical on/off slider on the right side instead of that silly
button on the Apple Wireless keyboard which inevitably gets pushed if you
have the keyboard in a bag or backpack.
2. It is capable of being paired with up to 3 devices so if you have, for
example, an iPhone, an iPad and an Apple TV you can pair all 3 devices with
the keyboard and simply pressing F1, F2 and F3 will allow you to select
which device you want to control. Whichever device you pair first will be
F1, the second device you pair can be selected with F2 and F3 obviously then
is for the last device you pair.

Another nice feature is that it's rechargeable via a standard USB Micro
cable so no batteries to replace.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?

To be honest, the keyboard I got was less expensive, but I will probabl get
an Apple one when I get an iPad. I couldn't pass up the good reviews and $30
US discount on this one from Amazon. :) I also wanted to experiment to see
if a bluetooth keyboard was a good option for me. It apparently is.

Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> How comes you don't use an Apple Bluetooth keyboard? 
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2014, at 08:29 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> No, unfortunately, there is no status indicator either for my keyboard or
for the Braille display. I don't find anything in the settings info areas,
either.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:02 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the Bluetooth keyboard  battery charge be indicated in the status
bar, before the device battery indication? My Plantronics Voyager Legend
headset battery indicator is listed there.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:34 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Determining When A Third-party Keyboard Battery is Low?
>>> 
>>> LOL, I know it seemed like an obvious question, but I was looking for
telltale warning signs, like maybe some keys not registering, etc. and
hopefully not having the keyboard simply stop working before it needs a
charge.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa 
>>> 
>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>> 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Alan Paganelli
 wrote:
 
 Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy and it is not my intent,
when the keyboard no longer lets you type anything.  The bluetooth
rechargible keyboard I use can go for about 2 weeks before it needs to be
charged back up.  It only takes 3 hours from totally dead to fully charged
so it's not like it's the end of the world.  If I remember and I usually
don't, I try to recharge it once a week.
 
 HTH
 
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
> On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Teresa Cochran 
wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how does anyone know when a bluetooth keyboard
battery is dying?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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Re: Bluetooth speakers

[Gmail]

You could also try a pair of logitech UE Booms. If you get two of them, you can 
use an app produced by the company to pair both of them and have stereo output. 
I haven't done this yet, although I have one speaker. I plan to buy another 
when money affords. They're normally $200, but you can find them on eBay for a 
bit cheaper. The seller I bought mine from, who is based in Canada, is called 
something like North Electronics. The speaker arrived on time and undamaged, so 
I would do business with the seller again. I'll post the sellers name once I 
find it.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:46 PM, "Alan Paganelli"  
> wrote:
> 
> Your preaching to the quire here! LOL!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous 
> - everyone
> hasn't met me yet.
> 
> Please click on:
> 
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth speakers
> 
> 
> I have the mini jambox and it is okay. But I love, love, love my Bose
> earphones. Bose makes the best stuff imo.
> 
>> On 7/11/14, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
>> I like Bose products and have had no problems.  I have a Bose Sound Dock 10
>> 
>> which is made for mp3 playback as well as Bose head phones that I dearly
>> love.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
>> ridiculous - everyone
>> hasn't met me yet.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> 
>> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>> 
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jennie Facer" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:50 AM
>> Subject: Bluetooth speakers
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am in the market for a bluetooth speaker this morning. Should I get a mini
>> 
>> JamBox or a Bose Mini? Thoughts?
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New braille display by BAUM - VarioUltra is Tactile Nirvana!

[Gmail]

I can't wait for this to come out so that I can see how it stacks up against 
the Braille Edge 40. It's nice that it comes in two sizes, too. This is a 
display worth keeping an eye on.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I am cross posting to both lists as people always ask about various Braille 
> Displays etc.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: "van Weele, Niels" 
>> Date: 11 July 2014 11:40:02 am BST
>> To: "van Weele, Niels" 
>> Subject: New braille display by BAUM - VarioUltra is Tactile Nirvana!
> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Dear Reader,
>> 
>> At BAUM we are preparing step-by-step the introduction of VarioUltra 20 and 
>> VarioUltra 
>> 40, BAUM’s new ultra-cool braille display with note taking functionality for 
>> blind and 
>> visually impaired persons.
>> 
>> VarioUltra is a brand new refreshable braille solution from BAUM and a 
>> VarioUltra 20 
>> will be shown at the upcoming SightVillage Birmingham show 15 and 16 July.
>> First deliveries will start in September / October 2014.
>> 
>> If you are intending to come and visit SightVillage exhibition in 
>> Birmingham, we like 
>> to invite you to visit the booth of our Distributor Pamtrad Customs Ltd., 
>> where we will 
>> have the VarioUltra 20 in our booth.
>> We will also show some existing models of BAUM braille displays and a 
>> Pronto! 18 
>> notetaker.
>> 
>> Here’s why VarioUltra matters:
>> 
>> · VarioUltra is the world’s first and only braille device that 
>> supports connectivity 
>> with up to 5 devices, simultaneously. So unlike other solutions that require 
>>  
>> you to constantly connect and disconnect, VarioUltra lets you stay connected 
>>  
>> all the time. Switching between your devices is achieved quickly via a 
>> keyboard command. 
>> 
>> · VarioUltra is offered with a choice of 20 or 40 braille cells; 
>> both models come 
>> with integrated cursor routing, and a comfortable 8-key braille keyboard.
>> 
>> · VarioUltra is not just the world’s most connectable braille 
>> display; it is also a 
>> powerful note taker, with a suite of productivity apps that includes, among 
>> other things:
>> Editor/word processor for working with DOC and DOCX files
>> Spreadsheet viewer for working with XLS and XLSX files 
>> PDF viewer 
>> Scientific calculator 
>> File manager 
>> BRF reader 
>> 
>> · VarioUltra is very light. Thanks in part to its brushed, annodized 
>> aluminium 
>> construction, VarioUltra 40 weighs 530 g and the 20-cell model weighs 
>> only 320 g. 
>> 
>> · VarioUltra is designed like no other. Whether it’s the crisp 
>> braille cells that 
>> users report as feeling almost "paper-like", or the amazing keyboard that is 
>> whisper quiet and feels great as you type, VarioUltra is Tactile Nirvana! 
>> It’s that good.
>>  
>> · VarioUltra: this is what a braille display is meant to be. 
>> 
>> A list with Frequently Asked Questions already has been prepared, which you 
>> can 
>> read and download from the link we present you here below.
>> For more information and FAQs follow this link
>> or otherwise please give Pamtrad a ring on 0115 9816636
>> 
>> With kind regards,
>> 
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