Re: Audible and safari
I used audible with Safari and was able to use it very well. I had to play around with it a while to know exactly what to do get my books, but I was able to do it without an problems. Cathy Pilot Dog, Tiny: -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
FB Page for Assistive Technology for the Blind
Hi Everyone, Just wanted to share my new page on FB that will share up to date info for all assistive technology for the blind including Apple products. I would love your support and contributions. :) https://www.facebook.com/assistivetechnologyfortheblind Thanks, Serina -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Audible and safari
Hi, It won’t really even come up on my computer. I have never had a problem navigating it when it did though. I’m sure I’ll figure out the problem eventually. I only brought it up here because ordering on the iPhone is so easy and just requires fewer steps, thus faster. Thanks, Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible and safari I use Audible on safari a great deal and find it no problem to use. I think from what you describe doing it on the iPhone maybe eliminates the shopping cart and that might be easier for some people. I also haven't had trouble getting the website to load recently and I am wondering what might be causing this for you. I do have safari tell me something like 90 percent loaded sometimes but usually it does go ahead and load. But as I haven't yet bought from Audible using my iPhone or iPad, the fact that it is very accessible is good information to have. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 2, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Lois, I am curious as to what problems you experienced with the audible site on the computer. Are you using a Mac or PC? Which screenreader? I am a PC user with Jaws 15 and find audible.com easy to navigate especially with some of the quick nav keys like x for checkbox (when I purchase something and want to make sure if I am using a credit or direct payment), also b for buttons is useful in many cases and I even quite often use the virtual find feature if I am looking for a particular link where I know the name such as “add to cart” or something like that. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible and safari Hi all, For the past few days, I have had a hard time getting Audible.com on my computer, so I tried it on my iPhone 5. It is much, much easier to make purchases on the phone than it is on the computer. I was pleasantly surprised and just wanted to share. When you tap on the book you want after doing a search, there is a purchase with 1 credit button, then a confirm button, and that’s it. I love it. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running
Re: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina
Hi, Interesting, that was the advise i got from the list to use a big ipad in landscape mode and that's where the swiping became a serious problem. Because the screen was so big i managed to go off course when i swiped and thus the gestures i tried to make were interpreted wrongly by the IPad. /Krister 3 aug 2014 kl. 02:43 skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca: Krister, The main difference is that as far as I know an iPad Mini in portrait mode does not display things in a left and right screen area/container. For instance, normally on an ipad the Settings app (just using that as an example) shows the main categories on the left side and if, for example, you double tap on General, you then see all of what is under General on the right side. If you put an ipad Mini in portrait mode it will display/look like on an iphone which means if you double tap General the main Settings categories disappear and will be replaced with what is under General. As to what is better would depend on each user and on how you get used to it and in the end you have to make that choice. I think I would probably use an iPad Mini more in portrait mode like my iPhone whereas I prefer to use a full-size iPad in landscape mode. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 7:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina Hi, Well, the subject sorta says it all, when navigating around, what mode do people prefer? Are there any advantages/disadvantages with one over the other? /Krister -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Important help with mail!
Sieghard is probably right, but last I knew, Road Runner was still using POP3. It might be the case that you checked your email from another system, downloaded the messages to that system and then had them deleted from the server. If so, you can check your other systems to see if they still have your older mail. If that's not it, you can see if the messages are still there by checking the web interface for Road Runner's mail. On 07/31/2014 08:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Chris, Your emails are probably not gone. Go to Settings, Mail, Contacts, Calendars, double tap on your Roadrunner account and check the Mail Days to Sync setting. I assume it might be set to only show messages from a particular time, you can set this to Unlimited to get around this. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 8:48 AM To: VIPhone List Subject: Important help with mail! I have 2 e-mail accounts on my iphone. My GMail account, and my Road Runner account through Time Warner. When I looked at my Road Runner account today, I noticed that I had several messages that were no longer there. Basically any message that I was keeping that was older then Tuesday, was gone!! Is there any reason this might have happened? I do have my mail backed up to icloud, is there anyway to see if those messages are backed up to icloud? I know the answer is probably no, but is there any thing I can do to possibly get those messages back? I also checked my GMail account, and no messages are missing from that account. My Road Runner account is a pop account because time warner does not offer an imap account. I guess any message I want to keep, I better remove it from the inbox, and even put the info in a text message when possible. Any help or guidance would be appreciated!! Chris Chaffin Sent from my iPhone -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that. These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye. Here's how it should work. Choose the add to cart button on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before. Activate the button labelled Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free and secure. You're then taken to Pay Pal's site. Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal account his is irrelevant. Then you'll find a button labelled pay with a credit or debit card, or bill me later. Activate that button. You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully accessible and has no captcha. If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone having issues. Hope that's of some help. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: There is one place in trying to fill this out, says security then asks for code. I have no idea what I am supposed to put, and since I don't it keeps returning me to the top of the form. My internet was down all day and now it seems I can't sign up for PayPal without another security question. Bank this afternoon had me going crazy trying to answer these things but at least someone else was doing the mousing. From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Important help with mail!
Sieghard, I am only having one problem. When I go to Settings, Mail contacts Calendars, then to my road runner account, I do not have a setting for mail days to sync. I do not know if it might be because it is a pop3 account or not, but it is not there. Here is what I do have: Account, On, toggle setting POP Account Information, heading Name, my name e-mail, e-mail address Description, description of account Incoming mail server, heading Host Name, name of incoming server User name, account user name password, password on account Out going mail server, heading SMTP, Out going mail server Advanced button Delete Account Button Now if I go into Advanced settings, I have: Move discarded messages to: selected, Deleted mailbox Deleted Messages, heading Remove: selected, after one day Incoming settings, heading Use SSL, Off Authentication, password Delete from server, When removed from Inbox Port, port number S/Mime, Off And that is it. I am not sure why I do not have that setting, but as you can see, it is not there. Any further help or ideas would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Chris Chaffin Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Sieghard is probably right, but last I knew, Road Runner was still using POP3. It might be the case that you checked your email from another system, downloaded the messages to that system and then had them deleted from the server. If so, you can check your other systems to see if they still have your older mail. If that's not it, you can see if the messages are still there by checking the web interface for Road Runner's mail. On 07/31/2014 08:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Chris, Your emails are probably not gone. Go to Settings, Mail, Contacts, Calendars, double tap on your Roadrunner account and check the Mail Days to Sync setting. I assume it might be set to only show messages from a particular time, you can set this to Unlimited to get around this. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 8:48 AM To: VIPhone List Subject: Important help with mail! I have 2 e-mail accounts on my iphone. My GMail account, and my Road Runner account through Time Warner. When I looked at my Road Runner account today, I noticed that I had several messages that were no longer there. Basically any message that I was keeping that was older then Tuesday, was gone!! Is there any reason this might have happened? I do have my mail backed up to icloud, is there anyway to see if those messages are backed up to icloud? I know the answer is probably no, but is there any thing I can do to possibly get those messages back? I also checked my GMail account, and no messages are missing from that account. My Road Runner account is a pop account because time warner does not offer an imap account. I guess any message I want to keep, I better remove it from the inbox, and even put the info in a text message when possible. Any help or guidance would be appreciated!! Chris Chaffin Sent from my iPhone -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Well, may try in a few days but for now not happy about nothing on that sight working. I know that unless I can get the iPhone app to work better, I won't be applying for an account, I have been using the PC, maybe my mistake but it has a real keyboard so faster for me. It falls into line with the past couple of months, nothing is easy, nothing quite works the way I expected. It is one reason I am not willing to put Firefox on this computer, my cousin put Chrome on, and when he told me I told him not to open it or I'd have problems later. He was in a huff about it. I use IE at work, have used it since it came with Windows whatever version and I pretty much know how it works. I use Jaws always as up to date as it can be, have since I bought it in 1998, it isn't like I don't know how to use it and on that guest page, I read from top to bottom with virtual and Jaws cursors and found no reason why the info I entered should not have been accepted. After the past week if I were into it I'd say it is a conspiracy to keep me from spending one dime even though I have more than that in my accounts. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy and Wilda Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I also just tried and I had the same problem. I wrote them and they said they were not having problems with the Guest PayPal. I will try again tomorrow. I had a similar problem with the IOS7 but got it to work. Kathy and Seeing Eye dog Wilda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: There is one place in trying to fill this out, says security then asks for code. I have no idea what I am supposed to put, and since I don't it keeps returning me to the top of the form. My internet was down all day and now it seems I can't sign up for PayPal
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I did, filled in all fields, checked it multiple times, pressed continue and it went right back to the same page, all fields filled in. I have many things to be doing, I can't spend hours trying something that never works for me. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi rose. Thought I'd weigh in here. I ordered the book on Jonathan's site with no problem at all. You don't have to fool with pay pal at all even though it looks like you do. After you enter on guest, just choose the option for credit card and enter your card info just like you would for any order on the web and it should go just fine. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: There is one place in trying to fill this out, says security then asks for code. I have no idea what I am supposed to put, and since I don't it keeps returning me to the top of the form. My internet was down all day and now it seems I can't sign up for PayPal without another security question. Bank this afternoon had me going crazy trying to answer these things but at least someone else was doing the mousing. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Olver Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:09 AM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Go to http://www.paypal.com/ http://www.paypal.com - Original Message - From: mailto:roseco...@q.com Rose Combs To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:44 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye How do you find PayPal's site, I tried
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I don’t have an account, since it has a CAPTCHA, I probably don’t want an account, I do my best to avoid most sites that have one without an alternative way to translate the image, If I can’t I used to have help now I don’t. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Feliciano G Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I purchased the book with no problems when J Mosen posted this. Payed with my paypal account using the safari browser on the iphone. Regards, Feliciano Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote: Hi rose. Thought I’d weigh in here. I ordered the book on Jonathan’s site with no problem at all. You don’t have to fool with pay pal at all even though it looks like you do. After you enter on “guest”, just choose the option for credit card and enter your card info just like you would for any order on the web and it should go just fine. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won’t be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can’t solve, no audible line. They don’t want my business then. At this time I don’t have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don’t particularly trust right now I won’t be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn’t like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: There is one place in trying to fill this out, says security then asks for code. I have no idea what I am supposed to put, and since I don’t it keeps returning me to the top of the form. My internet was down all day and now it seems I can’t sign up for PayPal without another security question. Bank this afternoon had me going crazy trying to answer these things but at least someone else was doing the mousing. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Olver Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:09 AM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the
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The one thing that I would point out is that when I tried twice to order the book, both times the quantity of books to be ordered was pre set at 5 so be careful to re set the quantity of books to be ordered to 1(or whatever quantity is desired). The option to pay with a credit card is located right after the option to use pay pal. Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I don’t have an account, since it has a CAPTCHA, I probably don’t want an account, I do my best to avoid most sites that have one without an alternative way to translate the image, If I can’t I used to have help now I don’t. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Feliciano G Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I purchased the book with no problems when J Mosen posted this. Payed with my paypal account using the safari browser on the iphone. Regards, Feliciano Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote: Hi rose. Thought I’d weigh in here. I ordered the book on Jonathan’s site with no problem at all. You don’t have to fool with pay pal at all even though it looks like you do. After you enter on “guest”, just choose the option for credit card and enter your card info just like you would for any order on the web and it should go just fine. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won’t be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can’t solve, no audible line. They don’t want my business then. At this time I don’t have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don’t particularly trust right now I won’t be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn’t like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: There is one place in trying to fill this out, says security then asks for code. I have no idea what I am supposed to put, and since I don’t it keeps returning me to the top of the form. My internet was down all day and now it seems I can’t sign up for PayPal without another security
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They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can't spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can't read it to be able to use an alternative that isn't difficult to use. I don't care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can't see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn't this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don't get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google's audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can't understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don't personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a family member. I had someone else to help last year, albeit from a hospital bed. Same on PayPal something isn't right there and no clues, except last night it told me it did not like my city, well I have lived here for 39 years, it isn't going anywhere. Sorry, frustrated because something that should easy and inexpensive to get isn't working for me. Enough said, for now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi everyone, first, thanks to Raul for letting me post this here. Last year, I wrote a book called iOS 7 Without the Eye. The response was just incredible and many thousands of people bought it. I got great feedback, and people have been asking me if I will write one for iOS 8. I'm pleased to say that I've done that, and pre-orders are now available for iOS 8 Without the Eye. It will be released on the day Apple releases iOS 8, but you can secure your copy today so you can be sure you'll get it on release day. Much more detail about what's in the book, and that all important add to cart button, can be found here. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ Thanks to those of you who have been so supportive of my work. I'm so pleased many of you find it helpful and your business means a lot. All the best. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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I was using the PC rather than the iPhone for this process, always my choice if a lot of typing is needed, I have a Bluetooth keyboard, but still I really would prefer using the regular keyboard when possible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye has anyone tried the Rumola CAPTCHA solution service? It is supposed to be able to work on iPhone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a family member. I had someone else to help last year, albeit from a hospital bed. Same on PayPal something isn't right there and no clues, except last night it told me it did not like my city, well I have lived here for 39 years, it isn't going anywhere. Sorry, frustrated because something that should easy and inexpensive to get isn't working for me. Enough said, for now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi everyone, first, thanks to Raul for letting me post this here. Last year, I wrote a book called iOS 7 Without the Eye. The response was just incredible and many thousands of people bought it. I got great feedback, and people have been asking me if I will write one for iOS 8. I'm pleased to say that I've done that, and pre-orders are now available for iOS 8 Without the Eye. It will be released on the day Apple releases iOS 8, but you can secure your copy today so you can be sure you'll get it on release day. Much more detail about what's in the book, and that all important add to cart button, can be found here. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-ios-8-without-the-eye/ Thanks to those of you who have been so supportive of my work. I'm so pleased many of you find it helpful and your business means a lot. All the best. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Rose, Many sites, including Google, have an alternative way which is to have a text sent to your phone with the code. I have used this method several times for different things. That option is usually listed below the visual and audio codes. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. From: Rose Combs Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can’t get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a family member. I had someone else to help last year, albeit from a hospital bed. Same on PayPal something isn’t right there and no clues, except last night it told me it did not like my city, well I have lived here for 39 years, it isn’t going anywhere. Sorry, frustrated because something that should easy and inexpensive to get isn’t working for me. Enough said, for now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi everyone, first, thanks to Raul for letting me post this here. Last year, I wrote a book called iOS 7 Without the Eye. The response was just incredible and many thousands of people bought it. I got great feedback, and people have been asking me if I will write one for iOS 8. I'm pleased to say that I've done
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
To respond to Rose's comment about partially sighted people, I am someone who is losing my vision and I can tell you that it is no pleasure to navigate these sites with the vision I have left. Most people that I know who are partially sighted try to use whatever vision they have and it really is not that much help to magnify the print, even many times. My complaint is that most sites are not organized well so that it can be difficult to find the information you need to make the purchase and when you call customer service, often I end up in tears. So basically, as someone who is partially sighted, I have the options to get sighted help which is something I try not to do, give up on the purchase or spend a lot of time navigating the site yourself or on the phone with customer service. That is why I gave up my audible subscription and now only get books from bard or book share which I have found are sites that I can navigate without assistance. My suggestion to Mr. Mosen would be to put the information and a link to pre order his book at the very beginning of his site so that Partially sighted people don't need to navigate to the consulting store tab to order the book. Making things as easily findable as possible for the partially sighted community would be a help, especially for those of us who did not grow up with assistive technology and have to learn it as adults. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can’t get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a
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I did all you suggested more than once. It just did not work but in a few days when I have time I will try once again. I never truly intended to get an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my immediate future. I will try the guest option one more time but not today. Off to work. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that. These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye. Here's how it should work. Choose the add to cart button on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before. Activate the button labelled Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free and secure. You're then taken to Pay Pal's site. Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal account his is irrelevant. Then you'll find a button labelled pay with a credit or debit card, or bill me later. Activate that button. You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully accessible and has no captcha. If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone having issues. Hope that's of some help. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: mailto:roseco...@q.com Rose Combs To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to
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I had it out with paypal the other day because suddenly they wouldn't let me log in. They said it was because of my email address. I said I was not about to change it so they better give me another reason. It is a gmail address and some sites seem to have an issue with them. So I changed the way I wrote my password, not the pass word but how I wrote it; and they seemed to be satisfied. But that is just ridiculous. And yes, captchas are just a bear and they don't give you the option like gmail does, to have the code texted to you. So I understand the frustrations. Patti -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Yes, and when it gets to my phone it reads out a huge number that I have no way of figuring out in time to reenter it. Just had this problem with the bank a couple of weeks ago, some 10-digit code that read millions, thousands etc. and by the time I set for Characters and managed to get back to the spot where those numbers were the code expired and I had to start all over again. My phone then reset itself from characters to headings for some reason and after about 9 tries I finally got the number entered in the computer so I could access the account from it again, new computer for me. It should have taken a couple of minutes and it took me 45 minutes to get this done. I was once very good with the phone, now, it seems to take my mind forever to figure out what I need to do when, stress I hope. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 5:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Rose, Many sites, including Google, have an alternative way which is to have a text sent to your phone with the code. I have used this method several times for different things. That option is usually listed below the visual and audio codes. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can’t get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I have no vision at all, but I appreciate your comments. My late husband was partially sighted and always read the site even when I put a copy of Jaws on his computer, he used it to read long articles, but never to surf the web or purchase anything. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 5:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye To respond to Rose's comment about partially sighted people, I am someone who is losing my vision and I can tell you that it is no pleasure to navigate these sites with the vision I have left. Most people that I know who are partially sighted try to use whatever vision they have and it really is not that much help to magnify the print, even many times. My complaint is that most sites are not organized well so that it can be difficult to find the information you need to make the purchase and when you call customer service, often I end up in tears. So basically, as someone who is partially sighted, I have the options to get sighted help which is something I try not to do, give up on the purchase or spend a lot of time navigating the site yourself or on the phone with customer service. That is why I gave up my audible subscription and now only get books from bard or book share which I have found are sites that I can navigate without assistance. My suggestion to Mr. Mosen would be to put the information and a link to pre order his book at the very beginning of his site so that Partially sighted people don't need to navigate to the consulting store tab to order the book. Making things as easily findable as possible for the partially sighted community would be a help, especially for those of us who did not grow up with assistive technology and have to learn it as adults. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
So, hear's an idea, Rose. Since you are having so much difficulty getting this done, why not ask if someone could order it for you and have it sent to you and you send them the money? Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I did all you suggested more than once. It just did not work but in a few days when I have time I will try once again. I never truly intended to get an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my immediate future. I will try the guest option one more time but not today. Off to work. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that. These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye. Here's how it should work. Choose the add to cart button on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before. Activate the button labelled Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free and secure. You're then taken to Pay Pal's site. Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal account his is irrelevant. Then you'll find a button labelled pay with a credit or debit card, or bill me later. Activate that button. You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully accessible and has no captcha. If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone having issues. Hope that's of some help. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
also if this could include a phone numberr Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye To respond to Rose's comment about partially sighted people, I am someone who is losing my vision and I can tell you that it is no pleasure to navigate these sites with the vision I have left. Most people that I know who are partially sighted try to use whatever vision they have and it really is not that much help to magnify the print, even many times. My complaint is that most sites are not organized well so that it can be difficult to find the information you need to make the purchase and when you call customer service, often I end up in tears. So basically, as someone who is partially sighted, I have the options to get sighted help which is something I try not to do, give up on the purchase or spend a lot of time navigating the site yourself or on the phone with customer service. That is why I gave up my audible subscription and now only get books from bard or book share which I have found are sites that I can navigate without assistance. My suggestion to Mr. Mosen would be to put the information and a link to pre order his book at the very beginning of his site so that Partially sighted people don't need to navigate to the consulting store tab to order the book. Making things as easily findable as possible for the partially sighted community would be a help, especially for those of us who did not grow up with assistive technology and have to learn it as adults. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can’t get in as
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
As for WebVisum the CAPTCHA-solving plugin that work with firefox, they can't get it working with internet Explorer because they don't have access to the Microsoft coding for IE and it would be too expensive for them to get it. that was the story there, and i think it still is. SomeCAPTCHA's are harder to resolve, because they are dynamic (i.e. changing within a short time), than others are. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can't spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can't read it to be able to use an alternative that isn't difficult to use. I don't care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can't see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn't this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don't get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google's audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can't understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don't personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a family member. I had someone else to help last year, albeit from a hospital bed. Same on PayPal something isn't right there and no clues, except last night it told me it did not like my city, well I have lived here for 39 years, it isn't going anywhere. Sorry, frustrated because something that should easy and inexpensive to get isn't working for me. Enough said, for now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi everyone, first, thanks to Raul for letting me post this here. Last year, I wrote a book called iOS 7 Without the Eye. The response was just incredible and many thousands of people bought it. I got
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
The phone number is in New Zealand, although, knowing Jonathon he probably has a Skype number he could use. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Betty Emmons To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye also if this could include a phone numberr Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye To respond to Rose's comment about partially sighted people, I am someone who is losing my vision and I can tell you that it is no pleasure to navigate these sites with the vision I have left. Most people that I know who are partially sighted try to use whatever vision they have and it really is not that much help to magnify the print, even many times. My complaint is that most sites are not organized well so that it can be difficult to find the information you need to make the purchase and when you call customer service, often I end up in tears. So basically, as someone who is partially sighted, I have the options to get sighted help which is something I try not to do, give up on the purchase or spend a lot of time navigating the site yourself or on the phone with customer service. That is why I gave up my audible subscription and now only get books from bard or book share which I have found are sites that I can navigate without assistance. My suggestion to Mr. Mosen would be to put the information and a link to pre order his book at the very beginning of his site so that Partially sighted people don't need to navigate to the consulting store tab to order the book. Making things as easily findable as possible for the partially sighted community would be a help, especially for those of us who did not grow up with assistive technology and have to learn it as adults. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a
Re: Zagg Folio for iPad Mini
Hello Crystal. I think that it is the same keyboard that I have. On the right side toward the front there are two switches. The slide switch is the power on/off. In front of it is a button you push in. Hold it for about two seconds and you should be in pairing mode. Be sure to power on the keyboard first. Be sure to turn on quick nav with the lift and right arrow keys. To activate a button press the up and down arrow keys together. One disadvantage is that there is no auction key so I use the regular jesters to start and stop voiceOver reading. Left and uparrow together move you back through the router functions, up and right arrow move you forward through the router functions. Press the up or down arrow to move by the chosen router setting. The FN key is on the far left. Using it in combination with the arrow keys does the page up page down home and end. on the top row going from left to right are: Apple Homekey, lock and unlock key, Siri, and ten function keys. The second row is the number keys and the 1 is a skinny key. The letter q is a little larger. Haven't figured out the caps lock key I thought that you hold down the fn key and tab but that doesn't seem to work.. If there is a way to have a VO key I haven't found it so it would be wonderful if someone else knows how to do this. Hope this helps. Barry Abbott On Aug 1, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Crystal French rainc...@clearwire.net wrote: Hi, I decided to purchase a keyboard case for my iPad Mini. I was able to scan the instructionss for the keyboard. Nice surprise - someone was able to write a decent set of instructions. The instructions gives details on dedicated keys, but not the entire layout of the keyboard. If anyone is using this keyboard and has the layout, or can point me to where I might find it, I would appreciate it. There is a PAIR button, but not sure where it is located. Thanks for any help. Crystal -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina
I believe the best way to find out which is best for your needs would be to go down to the store and ask them to show you the various iPads. The person assisting you may or may not know about voice over in which case you can explain that all that it requires is to hold down the home key and wait for the tone and say, turn voice over on. You do the same thing to say turn voice over off. The sails person should be happy to comply with your request. See for yourself the difference between portrait and landscape modes. Of course in this way, the user, that's you can see how much more can be shown on the various screens. Personally, I like the iPad Air. It's big enough screen should be easier to view for some high partials and for the totally blind fewer errors are made as the screen offers larger icons so that even fumbled finger guys like myself can manage things much better even in a moving vehicle. HTH Regards, Alan Birthdays are good for you; the more you have, the longer you live. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: RE: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina Krister, The main difference is that as far as I know an iPad Mini in portrait mode does not display things in a left and right screen area/container. For instance, normally on an ipad the Settings app (just using that as an example) shows the main categories on the left side and if, for example, you double tap on General, you then see all of what is under General on the right side. If you put an ipad Mini in portrait mode it will display/look like on an iphone which means if you double tap General the main Settings categories disappear and will be replaced with what is under General. As to what is better would depend on each user and on how you get used to it and in the end you have to make that choice. I think I would probably use an iPad Mini more in portrait mode like my iPhone whereas I prefer to use a full-size iPad in landscape mode. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 7:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina Hi, Well, the subject sorta says it all, when navigating around, what mode do people prefer? Are there any advantages/disadvantages with one over the other? /Krister -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
Re: New Assistive Technoogy Group on Facebook
SPAM! Regards, Alan Birthdays are good for you; the more you have, the longer you live. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Serina To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 8:35 PM Subject: New Assistive Technoogy Group on Facebook Hi Everyone, I am starting a new AT group on FB. I will post new info about ios and voice over as well as info on AT in general. Please feel to join and contribute: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1454025274869583/# Thanks, Serina -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Audible and safari
Hi Sieghard, I am also a PC user with JAWS 15, and am having problems getting the link to listen to a sample of the book to work. When I press enter on the link, it does not appear to do anything. Just curious if this works for you? Thanks, Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 8:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Audible and safari Hi Lois, I am curious as to what problems you experienced with the audible site on the computer. Are you using a Mac or PC? Which screenreader? I am a PC user with Jaws 15 and find audible.com easy to navigate especially with some of the quick nav keys like x for checkbox (when I purchase something and want to make sure if I am using a credit or direct payment), also b for buttons is useful in many cases and I even quite often use the virtual find feature if I am looking for a particular link where I know the name such as add to cart or something like that. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible and safari Hi all, For the past few days, I have had a hard time getting Audible.com on my computer, so I tried it on my iPhone 5. It is much, much easier to make purchases on the phone than it is on the computer. I was pleasantly surprised and just wanted to share. When you tap on the book you want after doing a search, there is a purchase with 1 credit button, then a confirm button, and that's it. I love it. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.commailto:lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
what my problem is that I have recently gone through a bank buyout. the bank has issued 4 different bank cards three of them have been defective. this means I was issued four different card numbers. because I went to pay pal and have changed my number each time the bank told us to we people other than myself have been blocked out. I do not consider this my fault, but the fault of the card maker.really I would like to know wheree I could send a money order in the amount of currentcy that would be needed for 1 copy of the book. or if their was an a store in America which would sale the book. Betty emmons - Original Message - From: Fred Olver To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye The phone number is in New Zealand, although, knowing Jonathon he probably has a Skype number he could use. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Betty Emmons To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye also if this could include a phone numberr Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye To respond to Rose's comment about partially sighted people, I am someone who is losing my vision and I can tell you that it is no pleasure to navigate these sites with the vision I have left. Most people that I know who are partially sighted try to use whatever vision they have and it really is not that much help to magnify the print, even many times. My complaint is that most sites are not organized well so that it can be difficult to find the information you need to make the purchase and when you call customer service, often I end up in tears. So basically, as someone who is partially sighted, I have the options to get sighted help which is something I try not to do, give up on the purchase or spend a lot of time navigating the site yourself or on the phone with customer service. That is why I gave up my audible subscription and now only get books from bard or book share which I have found are sites that I can navigate without assistance. My suggestion to Mr. Mosen would be to put the information and a link to pre order his book at the very beginning of his site so that Partially sighted people don't need to navigate to the consulting store tab to order the book. Making things as easily findable as possible for the partially sighted community would be a help, especially for those of us who did not grow up with assistive technology and have to learn it as adults. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can’t spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can’t read it to be able to use an alternative that isn’t difficult to use. I don’t care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can’t see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn’t this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don’t get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google’s audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can’t understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don’t personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should
Overdrive app
Hi Group, Does anyone here use the Overdrive app and is it accessible with VO? Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pre-Season Football Games
If you have a subscription with the Sports packages, then yes. They are internet channels, you can navigate to the NFL play-by-play area by heading. What the XM app does not play, apparently per NCAA rules, is some of the broadcasts of college football games are not re-broadcast through the internet, even if you have the sports package. Steve Lansing, Pure Michigan - Original Message - From: Steve Sweeney n4o...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:46 PM Subject: RE: Pre-Season Football Games Hi, Does the iphone app for xm play the games? Thx -Steve -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-Season Football Games Yes, like Richard said, there is the app put out by the NFL called NFL Mobile, but it does require a subscription to listen to the games. Now I will also mention that I received an e-mail from Verizon, stating that anyone who was a verizon customer could listen to games for no cost. I believe the reason for this is because they are a big sponser of the NFL. I also believe it was the same way last year. I can not say for the current version, but the app was pretty accessible last year. I mean the app was not totally accessible, but you could manage to listen to games without a problem. This might not happen to everyone, but I had problems with losing the audio connection when listening to games with the NFL app last year. This got frustrating, and is one reason I decided to sign up with SXM radio. For those thinking that it could have been my WIFI connection, well, I have never lost my connection when listening to a game with SXM. Like I said, hopefully they have fixed this problem in the app for this season. Hope all of this helps, Chris Chaffin Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote: I think, at least this is my thinking, is there an NFL equivalent to the MLB At Bat app? Holland's Boy, Bill - Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Unfortunately I tried two valid charge cards using Credit but it would not accept either card. I then realized my husband has a pay pal account and I used that. I did write J. Mosen to let him know the problems. Kathy and Seeing Eye dog Wilda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye The one thing that I would point out is that when I tried twice to order the book, both times the quantity of books to be ordered was pre set at 5 so be careful to re set the quantity of books to be ordered to 1(or whatever quantity is desired). The option to pay with a credit card is located right after the option to use pay pal. Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I don’t have an account, since it has a CAPTCHA, I probably don’t want an account, I do my best to avoid most sites that have one without an alternative way to translate the image, If I can’t I used to have help now I don’t. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Feliciano G Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I purchased the book with no problems when J Mosen posted this. Payed with my paypal account using the safari browser on the iphone. Regards, Feliciano Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote: Hi rose. Thought I’d weigh in here. I ordered the book on Jonathan’s site with no problem at all. You don’t have to fool with pay pal at all even though it looks like you do. After you enter on “guest”, just choose the option for credit card and enter your card info just like you would for any order on the web and it should go just fine. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won’t be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can’t solve, no audible line. They don’t want my business then. At this time I don’t have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don’t particularly trust right now I won’t be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn’t like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Is this when you are putting in your payment information? If so, the security code is the one for your debit or credit card. If it is asking for a code, I think it probably isn't another security question. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they
Re: Overdrive app
Hello, I have been using the OverDrive library book app for over two years. It's doable, but it's kind of frustrating at first you get the hang of it. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote: Hi Group, Does anyone here use the Overdrive app and is it accessible with VO? Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Overdrive app
Hello Ed, I use the Over Drive app to access my local public library's content from time-to-time. Is it accessible? I would say yes with several caveats. It is definitely not one of my favorite apps. Since it is free, at least it was when I downloaded it last year, I suggest that you install it and take it for a test spin. Accessibility comfort levels will definitely vary. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Overdrive app Hi Group, Does anyone here use the Overdrive app and is it accessible with VO? Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
PayPal Mobile Site Now Worse Than Ever With the Change Payment Option
Hi, all, Ok, I've tried the little trick of going to the home screen and going back into Safari when it crashes while choosing the change to radio button. My sighted husband says it crashes on my iPod when he tries it with VO off. Anyone else have this problem? I've rebooted the iPod and taken Safari out of the app switcher. I'm definitely suspecting there's something wrong with the site. Thanks, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Overdrive app
I definitely now choose Kindble format for my local library books instead of Overdrive. The Kindle app is much more accessible than the Overdrive app. Of course, this assumes that the same book is available in Kindle format. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:27 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Ed, I use the Over Drive app to access my local public library's content from time-to-time. Is it accessible? I would say yes with several caveats. It is definitely not one of my favorite apps. Since it is free, at least it was when I downloaded it last year, I suggest that you install it and take it for a test spin. Accessibility comfort levels will definitely vary. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Overdrive app Hi Group, Does anyone here use the Overdrive app and is it accessible with VO? Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: New Assistive Technoogy Group on Facebook
Hi serina Thanks for sharing the link to your technology group on Facebook. You may want to do a search on facebook for other blind groups, join and spread the word about your facebook group. Donna On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Serina serina0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am starting a new AT group on FB. I will post new info about ios and voice over as well as info on AT in general. Please feel to join and contribute: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1454025274869583/# Thanks, Serina -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Problem connecting devices to my Mac Mini
I have never connected this particular iPhone or iPod to this Mac. When I try it says the devices are locked with a pass code and I must enter the pass code on the device. The problem? They are not locked with a pass code. Any idea what I can do with this situation? Kristeen -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Well Then Microsoft should make something similar that accomplishes the same thing in my humble opinion. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye As for WebVisum the CAPTCHA-solving plugin that work with firefox, they can't get it working with internet Explorer because they don't have access to the Microsoft coding for IE and it would be too expensive for them to get it. that was the story there, and i think it still is. SomeCAPTCHA's are harder to resolve, because they are dynamic (i.e. changing within a short time), than others are. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can't spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can't read it to be able to use an alternative that isn't difficult to use. I don't care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can't see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn't this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don't get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google's audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can't understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don't personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a family member. I had someone else to help last year, albeit from a hospital bed. Same on PayPal something isn't right there and no clues, except last night it told me it did not like my city, well I have lived here for 39 years, it isn't going anywhere. Sorry, frustrated because something that should easy and inexpensive to get isn't working for me. Enough said, for now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the
Re: Important help with mail!
What kind of account are you trying to setup? Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Aug 3, 2014, at 5:00 AM, Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com wrote: Sieghard, I am only having one problem. When I go to Settings, Mail contacts Calendars, then to my road runner account, I do not have a setting for mail days to sync. I do not know if it might be because it is a pop3 account or not, but it is not there. Here is what I do have: Account, On, toggle setting POP Account Information, heading Name, my name e-mail, e-mail address Description, description of account Incoming mail server, heading Host Name, name of incoming server User name, account user name password, password on account Out going mail server, heading SMTP, Out going mail server Advanced button Delete Account Button Now if I go into Advanced settings, I have: Move discarded messages to: selected, Deleted mailbox Deleted Messages, heading Remove: selected, after one day Incoming settings, heading Use SSL, Off Authentication, password Delete from server, When removed from Inbox Port, port number S/Mime, Off And that is it. I am not sure why I do not have that setting, but as you can see, it is not there. Any further help or ideas would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Chris Chaffin Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Sieghard is probably right, but last I knew, Road Runner was still using POP3. It might be the case that you checked your email from another system, downloaded the messages to that system and then had them deleted from the server. If so, you can check your other systems to see if they still have your older mail. If that's not it, you can see if the messages are still there by checking the web interface for Road Runner's mail. On 07/31/2014 08:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Chris, Your emails are probably not gone. Go to Settings, Mail, Contacts, Calendars, double tap on your Roadrunner account and check the Mail Days to Sync setting. I assume it might be set to only show messages from a particular time, you can set this to Unlimited to get around this. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 8:48 AM To: VIPhone List Subject: Important help with mail! I have 2 e-mail accounts on my iphone. My GMail account, and my Road Runner account through Time Warner. When I looked at my Road Runner account today, I noticed that I had several messages that were no longer there. Basically any message that I was keeping that was older then Tuesday, was gone!! Is there any reason this might have happened? I do have my mail backed up to icloud, is there anyway to see if those messages are backed up to icloud? I know the answer is probably no, but is there any thing I can do to possibly get those messages back? I also checked my GMail account, and no messages are missing from that account. My Road Runner account is a pop account because time warner does not offer an imap account. I guess any message I want to keep, I better remove it from the inbox, and even put the info in a text message when possible. Any help or guidance would be appreciated!! Chris Chaffin Sent from my iPhone -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a check. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Olver Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye So, hear's an idea, Rose. Since you are having so much difficulty getting this done, why not ask if someone could order it for you and have it sent to you and you send them the money? Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I did all you suggested more than once. It just did not work but in a few days when I have time I will try once again. I never truly intended to get an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my immediate future. I will try the guest option one more time but not today. Off to work. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that. These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye. Here's how it should work. Choose the add to cart button on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before. Activate the button labelled Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free and secure. You're then taken to Pay Pal's site. Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal account his is irrelevant. Then you'll find a button labelled pay with a credit or debit card, or bill me later. Activate that button. You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully accessible and has no captcha. If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone having issues. Hope that's of some help. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio CAPTCHA; or use WebVisum with Firefox, to resolve it. So, CAPTCHA solutions for iPhone? I was already signed up when I got a smartphone. - Original Message - From: mailto:roseco...@q.com Rose Combs To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye No, this is trying to sign up, have not been asked credit card info yet. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Audible and safari
Actually, I just saw there's also an express-pay when you use it on the computer too though I usually just use the cart and look at the you might also like stuff too. That gets me in a lot of trouble - grin! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 3, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Lois Butterfield lbutterfield...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It won't really even come up on my computer. I have never had a problem navigating it when it did though. I'm sure I'll figure out the problem eventually. I only brought it up here because ordering on the iPhone is so easy and just requires fewer steps, thus faster. Thanks, Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible and safari I use Audible on safari a great deal and find it no problem to use. I think from what you describe doing it on the iPhone maybe eliminates the shopping cart and that might be easier for some people. I also haven't had trouble getting the website to load recently and I am wondering what might be causing this for you. I do have safari tell me something like 90 percent loaded sometimes but usually it does go ahead and load. But as I haven't yet bought from Audible using my iPhone or iPad, the fact that it is very accessible is good information to have. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Aug 2, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Lois, I am curious as to what problems you experienced with the audible site on the computer. Are you using a Mac or PC? Which screenreader? I am a PC user with Jaws 15 and find audible.com easy to navigate especially with some of the quick nav keys like x for checkbox (when I purchase something and want to make sure if I am using a credit or direct payment), also b for buttons is useful in many cases and I even quite often use the virtual find feature if I am looking for a particular link where I know the name such as add to cart or something like that. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible and safari Hi all, For the past few days, I have had a hard time getting Audible.com on my computer, so I tried it on my iPhone 5. It is much, much easier to make purchases on the phone than it is on the computer. I was pleasantly surprised and just wanted to share. When you tap on the book you want after doing a search, there is a purchase with 1 credit button, then a confirm button, and that's it. I love it. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
Re: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina
Hi, Nope, that is not true, the left and right display for container is also display on the portrait mode as well. As far as what is the different, well, that is really come to personal preference as well as how you want to display the information. Take mail for example, same container with the idea of left and right screen. With portrait mode, you might able to display say, 10 emails on a page, but you might only able to display one or two lines for each message. But, with lanscape mode, you might only able to display 4 to 5 message on a page, but you get say, one or two full sentence instead of one or two line. if that make sense. Also, of course, if you have a bt keyboard, or a keyboard case, having it on lanscape mode will make more sense as it will be how you will have your keyboard set up. For me personally, i got mine lock on portrait mode for 80% of the time, and unlock it if i'm watching videos or viewing photos etc. Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 3 Aug 2014, at 10:13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Krister, The main difference is that as far as I know an iPad Mini in portrait mode does not display things in a left and right screen area/container. For instance, normally on an ipad the Settings app (just using that as an example) shows the main categories on the left side and if, for example, you double tap on General, you then see all of what is under General on the right side. If you put an ipad Mini in portrait mode it will display/look like on an iphone which means if you double tap General the main Settings categories disappear and will be replaced with what is under General. As to what is better would depend on each user and on how you get used to it and in the end you have to make that choice. I think I would probably use an iPad Mini more in portrait mode like my iPhone whereas I prefer to use a full-size iPad in landscape mode. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 7:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Advantages/disadvantages with portrait and landscape on the IPad Mini Retina Hi, Well, the subject sorta says it all, when navigating around, what mode do people prefer? Are there any advantages/disadvantages with one over the other? /Krister -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
iTunes Radio troubles
Forgive me if this has been asked before, but I've got the latest iPhone and the latest software update and i'm having difficulty in adding a station initunes radio. I can see the audio preview button but I can't see any sort of an add button. Also, I just discovered this afternoon that i cannot delete a station I've created where I used to be able to, even after I wasn't able to add stations. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
NFL
i just bought All Football Radio by JJACR Apps. It is on sale for $0.99. I went through all the Buffalo Bills stations and none of them worked, but the first one for the New York Giants works. The more amazing thing is that the play by play is within about one secnd or less of the TV broadcast, so my wife can watch the game and I can listen and not be hearing different plays than what she sees. It is completely accessible with VoiceOver. Richard Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes Radio troubles
Once you have found a station and double tapped on it and maybe had to double tap again to get it playing, then there will be an add to favorites button in the upper right and an exit the now playing screen button in the upper left. To 'delete a station, double tap on the my profile tap along the bottom of the screen, then there is an edit button in the upper right corner that you double tap on and then you will have the option to delete or move the stations in your favorites. HTH, Richard Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but I've got the latest iPhone and the latest software update and i'm having difficulty in adding a station initunes radio. I can see the audio preview button but I can't see any sort of an add button. Also, I just discovered this afternoon that i cannot delete a station I've created where I used to be able to, even after I wasn't able to add stations. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
A postel order then, which you can get from your Post office? (I don't know how that operates in the USA, but sending money through mail 'cheque or postal order' are the usually guaranteed methods. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:14 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I don't want to send money through the mail, and do not want to write a check. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Olver Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 6:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye So, hear's an idea, Rose. Since you are having so much difficulty getting this done, why not ask if someone could order it for you and have it sent to you and you send them the money? Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:55 AM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I did all you suggested more than once. It just did not work but in a few days when I have time I will try once again. I never truly intended to get an account and now that I know it has a CAPTCHA it is definitely not in my immediate future. I will try the guest option one more time but not today. Off to work. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi Rose, very sorry to hear you're having problems setting up a Pay Pal account. The good news though is that it's not necessary to have a Pay Pal account to buy through Pay Pal. There is an option to enter your credit card number, and a good number of people are purchasing that way. With this method there is no captcha to complete or anything like that. These steps should work on most sites that accept Pay Pal but I'll try and offer a step-by-step for purchasing iOS 8 Without the Eye. Here's how it should work. Choose the add to cart button on the Mosen Consulting site. You'll then be taken to a page verifying your purchase. Be sure to verify the quantity is correct, particularly if you've tried unsuccessfully to purchase before. Activate the button labelled Make Payments with Pay Pal, it's fast, free and secure. You're then taken to Pay Pal's site. Navigate past the log-in form for Pay Pal, since you don't have a Pay Pal account his is irrelevant. Then you'll find a button labelled pay with a credit or debit card, or bill me later. Activate that button. You're then taken to a standard credit/debit card form which is fully accessible and has no captcha. If you have trouble, and and you'd like me to help, please feel free to use the contact form on the website, and we can organise a time for me to call you and take your credit card number. Obviously that applies to anyone having issues. Hope that's of some help. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/08/2014, at 8:17 am, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I guess unless I can get the guest form to work I won't be able to get the book then. PayPal should be ashamed for putting up a CAPTCHA we can't solve, no audible line. They don't want my business then. At this time I don't have time to install another browser, figure out how to use it etc. I am up to my ears in work and other issues like finances to waste time on a company that does not respect users enough of offer alternatives. Too bad too because I read the book last year in one evening I had no problems adjusting to IOS 7. I know some will say it take only a minute, but if I mess up my computer with software I don't particularly trust right now I won't be a happy camper since I need my computer right now. I wish Mr. Mosen would offer an alternative, it isn't like buying the book will break the bank for me, far from it, not rich but certainly not penniless either. Have worked 38 years in one job will start year 39 on Tuesday. I will try the guest form one more time, if not, I will do as I did for 5, and 6, figure it out on my own or wait until a missing manual or even an Apple book full of pictures is available, not so helpful but I have done it before. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 4:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye That is a CAPTCHA! Now, on the PC, you can decide instead to use an audio
Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
Sorry, but since Microsoft is often a target, in such case I wouldn't 'bank' on it not being broken or hacked into by spammers. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 11:53 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Well Then Microsoft should make something similar that accomplishes the same thing in my humble opinion. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye As for WebVisum the CAPTCHA-solving plugin that work with firefox, they can't get it working with internet Explorer because they don't have access to the Microsoft coding for IE and it would be too expensive for them to get it. that was the story there, and i think it still is. SomeCAPTCHA's are harder to resolve, because they are dynamic (i.e. changing within a short time), than others are. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye They need to make security accessible with alternatives that work for everyone, not just those with eyes to see it with. I thought I had an account, but it does not work and I suppose maybe I could use the one my husband had, might work if only I knew the password for it but someone night get suspicious since he is no longer on my bank account. Kind of difficult for him to use his account since he passed in May. Good thing I guess since he can't spend on more junk. I will always maintain that if a CAPTCHA is of necessity then there needs to be a solid reasonable way for someone who can't read it to be able to use an alternative that isn't difficult to use. I don't care what browser is used, it should have an alternative. There are lots of elderly persons out there on the internet that can't see enough to read those things, what do they do whether they use magnification software, screen readers or large monitors. Isn't this what accessibility is all about, access for everyone? Don't get me started, I have one very difficult time getting Google's audible to work, it was so fuzzy it took weeks before I finally got a code I could type in fast enough not to generate another one and it was more dumb luck than skill that finally got me in. My late husband had trouble reading it also and give up on it long before I did. They left me no way to communicate the difficulty. Great search engine, no customer support that I know of, no way to let them know one can't understand the audible they provide. I mostly use it for this account and my searches, have no real interest in trying other features that may make me encounter that process again. I should not have to have a specific browser, one I don't personally trust all that much, and a specific plug-in, a plug-in, yes but it should work with any browser. I should not have to figure out how to get the image to some site that no longer works, and if websites wish to keep doing this they should be paying for solutions, not me. It is my right to have access,. OK, I am off the soapbox for now. It is a hot button for me, has from its conception and implementation. I understand security but it needs to work for every person not just those who can see the graphic and manage to get it in fast enough for it to be accepted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye If and when you do get the payPal issue sorted out, be assured that it'll be worth it. they and we need security, so some sort of verification code is necessary to authenticate the user. For one-off payments, sometimes a credit card is a preferred option. I think I remember coming across that option when I got iOS7 Without the eyes. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye I am giving up, can't get in as a guest it keeps running in circles when all fields are full with correct info and when I tried to sign up ran into an ugly Captcha, I am so very disappointed but I cannot spend days trying to get this to work. Load of other things to do related to family issues, or more relevant to the lack of a family member. I had someone else to help last year, albeit from a hospital bed. Same on PayPal
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire computer with you when you need it. On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
Hi Alex Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I just want to make sure that I fully understand. The Mac Mini is just the part that contains the hard drive, aka a computer? And a monitor, keyboard, mouse and other devices have to be purchased seperately to use with the Mac Mini? Donna I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
Yes, The Mini has the hard drive, memory, CPU, etc. All the rest are perifferals. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Alex Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I just want to make sure that I fully understand. The Mac Mini is just the part that contains the hard drive, aka a computer? And a monitor, keyboard, mouse and other devices have to be purchased seperately to use with the Mac Mini? Donna I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The
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Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
Exactly. You need the keyboard, monitor, speakers (unless you really want to use the built-in one), mouse or trackpad, microphone, webcam, and anything else. Here's the link to a guide I wrote for AppleVis, describing all the different Mac models: http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, The Mini has the hard drive, memory, CPU, etc. All the rest are perifferals. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Alex Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I just want to make sure that I fully understand. The Mac Mini is just the part that contains the hard drive, aka a computer? And a monitor, keyboard, mouse and other devices have to be purchased seperately to use with the Mac Mini? Donna I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options,
Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation
Hello Everyone, Does anyone know of a tiny Bluetooth keyboard that looks similar to the old Quirty keyboards found on the original Smart phones and are what are now called feature phones? I just measured the Quirty keyboards on both my Samsung Blackjack 2 and my beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows Mobile 6.x, and they are approximately 2 inches across (horizontal axis) and 1 inch high (vertical axis). I just want a device that will fit comfortably in my shirt breast pocket with tiny keys similar to what I have described above. Any and all suggestions and/or links greatly appreciated. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation
Hi Mark, I have the RII keyboard that is 3 by 5 inches, not as small as you described but still pretty little and will fit nicely in a pocket. The AT guys sell it hth, Teresa On 8/3/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Does anyone know of a tiny Bluetooth keyboard that looks similar to the old Quirty keyboards found on the original Smart phones and are what are now called feature phones? I just measured the Quirty keyboards on both my Samsung Blackjack 2 and my beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows Mobile 6.x, and they are approximately 2 inches across (horizontal axis) and 1 inch high (vertical axis). I just want a device that will fit comfortably in my shirt breast pocket with tiny keys similar to what I have described above. Any and all suggestions and/or links greatly appreciated. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- It is action, not mere intention, that leaves our mark on the day. Decision without discipline is choice without commitment - it is wishful thinking. by Brendon Burchard, author of The Charge. Live your life by design and not by chance Challenge is a dragon with a gift in its mouth. Tame the dragon and the gift is yours. Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺ Teresa -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad. Although any macmini bought after 2012 and beyond, you don't have to connect a monitor. Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV? New user and want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you Subscribe here apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org All are welcome! On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire computer with you when you need it. On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, and I believe the mouse from your old PC. Andy From: Kliphton Senior Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad. Although any macmini bought after 2012 and beyond, you don’t have to connect a monitor. Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV? New user and want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you Subscribe here apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org All are welcome! On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire computer with you when you need it. On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit
Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
How expensive the peripherals are is entirely up to you, though. My monitor is just an old one we had sitting around, and I've seen monitors well below $100 if you have to buy one new. A keyboard is as low as $12 from Wal-Mart or similar locations, and you don't need a trackpad at all. They're nice, and run about $60 if you want one. The official Apple wireless keyboard is also $60, so you could spend $800 total on the low-end Mini (assuming an eighty-dollar monitor and no speakers), but you could also get away with $650, conceivably. All that said, I would still prefer the Macbook over the Mini, though that depends on your use case I suppose. On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:02 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, and I believe the mouse from your old PC. Andy From: Kliphton Senior Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad. Although any macmini bought after 2012 and beyond, you don't have to connect a monitor. Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV? New user and want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you Subscribe here apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org All are welcome! On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire computer with you when you need it. On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
RE: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini
Not unless it is connected by HDMI, and the idea is to leave all PC junk behind. I personally like using BT head phones, but that’s just me. Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV? New user and want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you Subscribe here apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org mailto:apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org All are welcome! From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini But if you already have a PC, you can use the keyboard, speakers, monitor, and I believe the mouse from your old PC. Andy From: Kliphton Senior mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Kristeen - A question about the Mac Mini They are the least expensive option, that is until you have to buy a monitor, keyboard, and if you prefer track pad. Although any macmini bought after 2012 and beyond, you don’t have to connect a monitor. Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV? New user and want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you Subscribe here apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org mailto:apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org All are welcome! On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: One thing I forgot to say is that the Mini is the least expensive Mac you can find, at least new. Minis start at $600, whereas the cheapest Macbook starts at $900, and iMacs are $1099, I think. That said, if it's your primary computer, I can't recommend a Macbook highly enough. They are so small and light that they're easy to take anywhere, and nothing beats having your entire computer with you when you need it. On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com mailto:khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Alex said everything I would have said. The USB drives do work well with the mini, if one needs such. I've used one a time or two. I rarely have a need for a drive anymore, however. Kristeen On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not Christine, but I have a Mini. 1. Yes, all Macs have VoiceOer built in, so long as they have OS 10.4 or later. In other words, any Mac you buy nowadays, and back to 2005 I believe, will have it. 2. No, not anymore. They used to have disk drives, but have not for a few years now, just like the Macbook and iMac lines. Disk drives are going away, and I find that I only rarely miss having one, not even often enough to make me pick up a USB disk drive. 3. No, the Mini is a small computer tower. It has no screen, keyboard, or mouse, though it does have a small internal speaker. It is meant to be connected to all necessary peripherals. If you're after an all-in-one solution, a Macbook might be better for you. The iMac is also an option; it has the tower and screen in one unit (though it is not a touch screen). No Mac currently offers a touch screen, only iOS devices do that. For the blind especially, though, a trackpad is just as good, since it lets you feel around the screen and perform familiar VO gestures to navigate and perform other actions. On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Kristeen I'm thinking about buying a Mac Mini. I have a couple of questions for you. I have always been a Windows user, so pardon my ignorance. 1. Does the Mac Mini have voiceover? 2. Does it have a CD drive? 3. Is the Mac Mini a touch screen? Thanks for answering my questions. Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following
RE: NFL Mobile
That is only for Verizon customers right? Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV? New user and want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you Subscribe here apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org mailto:apple4beginners-requ...@freelists.org All are welcome! From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: NFL Mobile Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information this year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to purchase and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be hiding somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeking Tiny Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendation
I agree that this is your best bet. Laying on top of my iPhone 5, it is the same with and comes up to the bottom of the earpiece, so is just short of length by 3/4 inch? It has all keys, is a little strange in some of the punctuation, but easily adoptable. But it does have all function keys useful on an eye device. It also has markings you would expect on F and G keys. The keypresses feel solid and battery life is excellent. e On Aug 3, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Teresa Christian synergydra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, I have the RII keyboard that is 3 by 5 inches, not as small as you described but still pretty little and will fit nicely in a pocket. The AT guys sell it hth, Teresa On 8/3/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Does anyone know of a tiny Bluetooth keyboard that looks similar to the old Quirty keyboards found on the original Smart phones and are what are now called feature phones? I just measured the Quirty keyboards on both my Samsung Blackjack 2 and my beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows Mobile 6.x, and they are approximately 2 inches across (horizontal axis) and 1 inch high (vertical axis). I just want a device that will fit comfortably in my shirt breast pocket with tiny keys similar to what I have described above. Any and all suggestions and/or links greatly appreciated. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- It is action, not mere intention, that leaves our mark on the day. Decision without discipline is choice without commitment - it is wishful thinking. by Brendon Burchard, author of The Charge. Live your life by design and not by chance Challenge is a dragon with a gift in its mouth. Tame the dragon and the gift is yours. Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺ Teresa -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
