Re: accessible sudoku

[RobH.]

I have one to play online, which isn't the same as what you ask for, but it 
works.

http://hoh.me.uk/games
- Original Message - 
From: "Holly Anderson" 
To: "viphone list list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 3:08 AM
Subject: accessible sudoku


Hi all.  I’m looking for an accessible sudoku game for the iphone.  I 
already know about sudoku for all, but I’m looking for something that does 
automatic pencil marks.  Does anyone know of such a game?

Thanks.
Holly

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Re: IOS 8.1 user guide on Iphone 5

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Go to Safari and it's in your bookmarks.

On 06/11/2014 06:30, brian albriton wrote:

I didn't know there was a user guide is this built into the phone?




On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Grant Hardy  wrote:

Hello Dan,

In addition to the iBook Store, the following is the link to the accessible 
version of the user guide: http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/en.lproj/index.html

Best,

Grant

Sent from mobile

On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:

Hi,

Has anyone else noticed that the user guide is almost totally useless?

If not I sure wonder what is wrong with mine.

When I say useless I mean that I can't click on any entries in the table of 
contents and once in the main menu kind of thing and after clicking on English 
VO speaks absolutely nothing.

I have already reported this to Apple Accessibility.

thanks.

Dan Beaver
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RE: wi-fi cutting out on 6+

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gary and Mary Anne,

I understand your frustration, but while a few people seem to have WiFi issues, 
it does not to be anywhere near a large percentage. I have a 5S and WiFi works 
as good as it always has. I have been using iO?S 8 throughout the entire beta 
cycle since Beta 1 in June and while I agree that there are problems and also 
feel that Apple should have had some of these fixed by the time iOS 8 was 
released, I had no WiFi issues throughout the beta cycle. I really wonder what 
the variables are which cause these issues. You also mentioned a friend who is 
only using text messages. What issues does he have with regular phone calls? 
Once again, I am not aware of major bugs here except that for some people call 
display announcements don't seem to work or not work consistently, but that 
doesn't affect the actual phone call.
As for Mary Anne, I have not seen any messages with information as to what you 
have tried to fix this. Have you done a reset all network settings and, if all 
else fails, a reinstall of iOS 8.1 including setting up as a new device?


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+

Make sure you call the Apple Accessibility line and/or write the Accessibility 
people and tell them what you've just said and how you feel. 
I am in the same boat, though with different problems.  It's gotten to the 
point where I don't even carry the phone around with me anymore.  I have a 
friend who has decided to go voiceless in terms of phone contact and deals 
solely in text messages and getting out only one of four has become more of a 
waste of time than I can justify.  For what it's worth, I called my carrier and 
asked whether I should consider upgrading to the 6 or 6 plus. 
The salesman said I'd be having similar problems to what I have now.  Yeah, I 
can listen to football games on the weekends and I have a clock app which I 
enjoy hearing, but those are decidely secondary aspects of why I wanted this 
phone.
Good Luck.

- Original Message -
From: "Mary Anne Lynskey" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+


I have I5 iPhone % and have been losing wireless since upgrade to IoS 8.
It is terrible. I must keep my cellular turned off or it will use my
data. Have to go to settings and turn wifi off and on again. Sometimes
that won't even work. I have to restart the phone before it works. I
have noticed lots of buffering too. There are androids in the house
without this problem. There are numerous problems with Ios *8.1 and I am
frankly becoming fed up with the whole thing. I can't move apps around
consistently, if at all. They are scattered everywhere and I can't put
them into folders for any organization. I get very few call
announcements. Many apps that used to work just fine are now broken.
When is Apple going to get their act together and fix these problems?
Are they dumping their commitment to accessibility with the new regime
or what? Too busy working on stupid gadgets like that idiotic watch
instead of fixing all the broken parts in Ios8. I for one will start
learning to use my brother's android if this keeps up. I really like
what Apple used to be but am becoming very disillusioned since they are
taking so long to respond to these issues. Iphone cost a serious amount
of money to have become so dysfunctional. And I know many of my sighted
friends and coworkers who do not like this new iOs 8, so there are many
more issues than an accessibility going on here. Let's hope they do
something about this very soon.

In summary, those of you who are having wifi issues are not imagining
it. It's for real! It's not your router or your iPhone, or your carrier,
it's the half-fast operating system.

Mary Anne


On 11/4/2014 3:56 PM, Isaac Hebert wrote:
> I could be wrong but I would think that this would be you're wifi network 
> that is the problem here not the bible app but I could be wrong.
>

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Re: IOS 8.1 user guide on Iphone 5

[brian albriton]

I didn't know there was a user guide is this built into the phone?



> On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dan,
> 
> In addition to the iBook Store, the following is the link to the accessible 
> version of the user guide: http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/en.lproj/index.html
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
> 
> Sent from mobile
> 
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Has anyone else noticed that the user guide is almost totally useless?
>  
> If not I sure wonder what is wrong with mine.
>  
> When I say useless I mean that I can't click on any entries in the table of 
> contents and once in the main menu kind of thing and after clicking on 
> English VO speaks absolutely nothing.
>  
> I have already reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>  
> thanks.
>  
> Dan Beaver 
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Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+

[Michael Amaro]

so I am not the only one having wifi issues?  I have the 5s just upgrated 
last month


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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:32 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+

Make sure you call the Apple Accessibility line and/or write the 
Accessibility people and tell them what you've just said and how you feel. 
I am in the same boat, though with different problems.  It's gotten to the 
point where I don't even carry the phone around with me anymore.  I have a 
friend who has decided to go voiceless in terms of phone contact and deals 
solely in text messages and getting out only one of four has become more 
of a waste of time than I can justify.  For what it's worth, I called my 
carrier and asked whether I should consider upgrading to the 6 or 6 plus. 
The salesman said I'd be having similar problems to what I have now. 
Yeah, I can listen to football games on the weekends and I have a clock 
app which I enjoy hearing, but those are decidely secondary aspects of why 
I wanted this phone.

Good Luck.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Anne Lynskey" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+


I have I5 iPhone % and have been losing wireless since upgrade to IoS 8.
It is terrible. I must keep my cellular turned off or it will use my
data. Have to go to settings and turn wifi off and on again. Sometimes
that won't even work. I have to restart the phone before it works. I
have noticed lots of buffering too. There are androids in the house
without this problem. There are numerous problems with Ios *8.1 and I am
frankly becoming fed up with the whole thing. I can't move apps around
consistently, if at all. They are scattered everywhere and I can't put
them into folders for any organization. I get very few call
announcements. Many apps that used to work just fine are now broken.
When is Apple going to get their act together and fix these problems?
Are they dumping their commitment to accessibility with the new regime
or what? Too busy working on stupid gadgets like that idiotic watch
instead of fixing all the broken parts in Ios8. I for one will start
learning to use my brother's android if this keeps up. I really like
what Apple used to be but am becoming very disillusioned since they are
taking so long to respond to these issues. Iphone cost a serious amount
of money to have become so dysfunctional. And I know many of my sighted
friends and coworkers who do not like this new iOs 8, so there are many
more issues than an accessibility going on here. Let's hope they do
something about this very soon.

In summary, those of you who are having wifi issues are not imagining
it. It's for real! It's not your router or your iPhone, or your carrier,
it's the half-fast operating system.

Mary Anne


On 11/4/2014 3:56 PM, Isaac Hebert wrote:
I could be wrong but I would think that this would be you're wifi network 
that is the problem here not the bible app but I could be wrong.




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Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+

[Gary Petraccaro]

Make sure you call the Apple Accessibility line and/or write the 
Accessibility people and tell them what you've just said and how you feel. 
I am in the same boat, though with different problems.  It's gotten to the 
point where I don't even carry the phone around with me anymore.  I have a 
friend who has decided to go voiceless in terms of phone contact and deals 
solely in text messages and getting out only one of four has become more of 
a waste of time than I can justify.  For what it's worth, I called my 
carrier and asked whether I should consider upgrading to the 6 or 6 plus. 
The salesman said I'd be having similar problems to what I have now.  Yeah, 
I can listen to football games on the weekends and I have a clock app which 
I enjoy hearing, but those are decidely secondary aspects of why I wanted 
this phone.

Good Luck.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Anne Lynskey" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+


I have I5 iPhone % and have been losing wireless since upgrade to IoS 8.
It is terrible. I must keep my cellular turned off or it will use my
data. Have to go to settings and turn wifi off and on again. Sometimes
that won't even work. I have to restart the phone before it works. I
have noticed lots of buffering too. There are androids in the house
without this problem. There are numerous problems with Ios *8.1 and I am
frankly becoming fed up with the whole thing. I can't move apps around
consistently, if at all. They are scattered everywhere and I can't put
them into folders for any organization. I get very few call
announcements. Many apps that used to work just fine are now broken.
When is Apple going to get their act together and fix these problems?
Are they dumping their commitment to accessibility with the new regime
or what? Too busy working on stupid gadgets like that idiotic watch
instead of fixing all the broken parts in Ios8. I for one will start
learning to use my brother's android if this keeps up. I really like
what Apple used to be but am becoming very disillusioned since they are
taking so long to respond to these issues. Iphone cost a serious amount
of money to have become so dysfunctional. And I know many of my sighted
friends and coworkers who do not like this new iOs 8, so there are many
more issues than an accessibility going on here. Let's hope they do
something about this very soon.

In summary, those of you who are having wifi issues are not imagining
it. It's for real! It's not your router or your iPhone, or your carrier,
it's the half-fast operating system.

Mary Anne


On 11/4/2014 3:56 PM, Isaac Hebert wrote:
I could be wrong but I would think that this would be you're wifi network 
that is the problem here not the bible app but I could be wrong.




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Re: iPhone 5c you running iOS 8.1 please help

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, yes that's exactly what we're saying.
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
> 
> So my son has a Samsung now so what you're saying is that we cannot do audio 
> text messaging
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> It actually will not send automatically, after you record and let go of the 
>> button you have to find the Send button and tap it.
>> As Joseph pointed out, you can only send audio messages as iMessages to 
>> other iOS users and 2-way audio message conversations are only possible if 
>> both iOS devices are running iOS 8. You can, however, send an audio message 
>> to somebody using iOS 7, they just can't reply with an audio message.
>> I also find that the quality of the audio is fairly poor when compared to 
>> Whats App; it sounds like you are listening to something recorded over a 
>> phone line and I am actually a bit surprised that Apple isn't allowing for 
>> higher quality audio
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> .
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5c you running iOS 8.1 please help
>> 
>> go to your messages app and the record audio button is within the area where 
>> you’d normally write your text message.  Double tap and hold on the record 
>> button and say what you want to say while still holding the button.  when 
>> you are done recording, let go of the button and it’ll send automactially.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhonehello someone on this list just sent me an email 
>>> regarding audio text messages and I accidentally deleted it and I cannot 
>>> find it now my question is how do I record an audio message now in iOS 8.1 
>>> to send an audio message as a text message
>>> 
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RE: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Crystal,

 

You might have to make it an early Christmas present. Anyhow, I would go to 
www.netatmo.com   and subscribe to their newsletter 
because I think both last year and the year before they offered a 15% Black 
Friday discount. I don’t know of course if they will do something like this 
again, but it’s worth looking for it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Crystal French
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Very cool, Sieghard.

I think I see a Christmas gift in my future.  

 

Thanks,

Crystal 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 2:11 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Hi Crystal,

 

Yes, I do have the rain gauge and it works perfectly. It’s all made from 
moulded plastic and roughly I would say the size is like a large container of 
yogurt (the ones that are 750 ml, not sure what that is in imperial 
measurement). The comparision is not quite right because the bottom part is not 
quite as much in diameter, then it narrows down and the top is basically a 
large funnel about 5 inches across.

 

If you tap the “Rain” button in the app you get 3 values:

 

Rain last hour: this is given in millimeters per hour or, I guess if you have 
it set to imperial measurements in inches per hour

Rain accumula.,: this stands for rain accumulation and is your total amount of 
rainfall since Midnight as it measure midnight to midnight just as minimum and 
maximum temperature

Rain forecast: this gives you an estimate as to how much rain is expected which 
I guess is information pulled from official weather forecast services.

 

What currently is not possible is to see a history, e.g. if it’s been raining a 
lot in the afternoon and evening and you really wanted to know how much rain 
fell that day you would have to check just before midnight.

 

I am planning to talk to them about hopefully making at least the value for the 
previous day available to Voiceover users, but apart from that it works great 
and seems to be very accurate. The rain gauge uses what is called the “tipping 
bucket” design. Inside under the funnel are 2 small holding containers/buckets 
mounted on an arm balanced in the middle. They are so carefully balanced that 
as one fills to the predetermined amount, I think it is 1 ml or maybe even 
less, the weight tips it down and it empties. Then the other bucket which is up 
fills and the process repeats. This is a common design for self-emptying 
electronic rain gauges and you just have to make sure  you place the rain gauge 
on a level surface. It has a standard quarter inch tripod mount on the bottom 
so it would be best to mount it or ask somebody to mount it for you and during 
that process a level needs to be used to make sure it is perfectly level and 
not tilted sideways as that would result in inaccurate readings.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Crystal French
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Sieghard,

I have been wondering for a long time about a talking rain gauge.

 

Do you also use this unit, and is it also accessible?

 

I’ve been using an indoor/outdoor talking thermometer, but the outdoor monitor 
keeps going out, but this weather station sounds exactly what I would like.

 

Thanks,

Crystal 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:56 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Hello Don and others,

As Andy and Christopher pointed out, in order to tell temperature you first 
need a sensor which measures the temperature and then conveys this information 
to an app on your phone. Otherwise it would be like looking for an app which 
gives you your blood pressure without the actual blood pressure device.

Anyhow, there is good news and bad news. There is a fantastic thermometer 
available, but it measures a lot more than temperature and it does so not only 
for inside but also for outside. OK, so I guess the fact that it does more than 
what you want isn't necessarily a bad thing. The bad thing in this case is the 
fact that because of its capabilities this device might be a lot more expensive 
then what you are looking for. So what is it I am talking about?

The company is called Netatmo and they are from France. They have released a 
product specifically for iOS devices called the "Netatmo Weather Station". The 
price is $179.00 and you can buy it directly for

accessible sudoku

[Holly Anderson]

Hi all.  I’m looking for an accessible sudoku game for the iphone.  I already 
know about sudoku for all, but I’m looking for something that does automatic 
pencil marks.  Does anyone know of such a game?

Thanks.
Holly

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All Football ap

[denise colley]

My husband is using an iphone 5s with IOS 8.1.  He has the All Football ap
and  we have a question.  It used to be that when he went into college teams
and then selected the week he wanted he could arrow up and down to get the
week he wanted and then hit the done button.  Now when he tries to select
the week he gets put into a menu that gives him speech rate options instead
of his week selections.

 

Is anyone else using this ap and having this issue?  Suggestions?

 

 

denise

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Re: wi-fi cutting out on 6+

[Mary Anne Lynskey]

I have I5 iPhone % and have been losing wireless since upgrade to IoS 8. 
It is terrible. I must keep my cellular turned off or it will use my 
data. Have to go to settings and turn wifi off and on again. Sometimes 
that won't even work. I have to restart the phone before it works. I 
have noticed lots of buffering too. There are androids in the house 
without this problem. There are numerous problems with Ios *8.1 and I am 
frankly becoming fed up with the whole thing. I can't move apps around 
consistently, if at all. They are scattered everywhere and I can't put 
them into folders for any organization. I get very few call 
announcements. Many apps that used to work just fine are now broken. 
When is Apple going to get their act together and fix these problems? 
Are they dumping their commitment to accessibility with the new regime 
or what? Too busy working on stupid gadgets like that idiotic watch 
instead of fixing all the broken parts in Ios8. I for one will start 
learning to use my brother's android if this keeps up. I really like 
what Apple used to be but am becoming very disillusioned since they are 
taking so long to respond to these issues. Iphone cost a serious amount 
of money to have become so dysfunctional. And I know many of my sighted 
friends and coworkers who do not like this new iOs 8, so there are many 
more issues than an accessibility going on here. Let's hope they do 
something about this very soon.


In summary, those of you who are having wifi issues are not imagining 
it. It's for real! It's not your router or your iPhone, or your carrier, 
it's the half-fast operating system.


Mary Anne


On 11/4/2014 3:56 PM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

I could be wrong but I would think that this would be you're wifi network that 
is the problem here not the bible app but I could be wrong.



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Re: iPhone 5S vs. iphone 6

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I have the iPhone 6 128GB model. I don't experience random crashes. 

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

> On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> It's onyly the 128 gb models that have this issue.  I certainly hope they fix 
> it though, preferaly by next year.
> - Original Message -
> From: John Diakogeorgiou  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 21:28:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S vs.  iphone 6
> 
> That's news to me.  My IPhone 6 has never crashed.
> 
> On 10/27/14, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> I recommend not getting a six or 6+.  I have heard it crashes randomly.  I
> don't think anyone would want that.  Maybe in a year they will have this
> fixed.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Sieghard, Kelly, Shawn and others,
> 
> Thank you for your comments.  I live in the UK so I don't think that Apple
> Pay will be here any time soon.  What you have so far said is very
> balanced, and I'm reading all your comments with great attention.
> 
> Andrew
> On 27 Oct 2014, at 01:59, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew and Shawn,
> 
> Shawn, you made a good point which I forgot.  The support for Apple Pay
> would be a very compelling reason for me to get a 6 if I was living in
> the States.  But as you mentioned, Canada won't see Apple Pay for a while
> although it would be my guess that Apple Pay will be in Canada before too
> long as our financial and credit card systems are similar.  I fully expect
> that I will upgrade again next year, but with Apple Pay taken out of the
> equasion there really isn't enough reason to upgrade from a 5S to a 6.
> As far as how much of a compelling reason Apple Pay is for you, Andrew,
> that is entirely up to you.  I am very intriqued by it and feel it is very
> well thought out and implemented based on what I heard about it.  It
> appears to be an Apple product in the old way when Apple would not
> release half-baked stuff as they sometimes have done in the last couple
> of years.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S vs.  iphone 6
> 
> Hi Andrew.  I agree with Sieghard about getting a 5S.  I know with myself
> when I got my 5S, I was only getting $60 for my 4S.  I wanted a 32 GB 5S
> but I settled for 16 because it was only $100 so I only had to pay about
> $40 for it plus $15 for the sim card from Telus.
> 
> As for processors, I'm not a power user as well.  I don't use Safari
> because I have a Mac to surf the internet with.  So the A7 chip is good
> enough for me.  As long as I can use Alex on my phone, that's good enough
> for me.  Yeah sure, the A8 chip on the 6 and 6 Plus sounds good, but like
> Sieghard said, I don't think there would be any improvements to speed.
> Also, we in Canada can't use Apple Pay, which is one of the biggest
> features of the 6 so there's really no point.  I'll worry about upgrading
> when iOS can no longer be upgraded on my 5S.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
> On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Based on one's financial situation, what is your opinion about getting
> an iPhone 5S as opposed to iphone 6?  Please give me your honest
> opinion.  Yes, I'm looking at the matter from the point of view of
> someone who will have to take a small loan to get a new iPhone.  So I'd
> like to know whether I would notice a significant difference in
> performance between iPhone 5S and iPhone 6?  Many of you on the list
> have been using iPhone for a variety of tasks in difficult situations.
> Please let me have your experiences.  I read that iPhone 5S has a A7
> chip which would make it possible for me to use Alex.  I guess it has
> more other opportunities, advantages, I mean.  On the other hand, iPhone
> 6 offers the A8 chip and maybe just maybe a different future
> possibility?  Please let me hear your voices experiences.  I'm not a
> particularly powerful iPhone user as yet.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Re: iPhone 5S vs. iphone 6

[Alan J Paganelli]

Wow and here's me thinking do I really need 7 pages worth of apps on my 5s? 
I can't even picture 70 pages worth of apps.  Maybe they don't know to 
delete apps? 





Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. 
Get

a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request. Thanks for listening!
-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S vs. iphone 6

Hi Jessica,

As Cheryl pointed out, this random crashing issue seems to be happening 
primarily if not only on the 6 Plus 128 Gb and then it appears to be only 
happening for people who have huge numbers of apps installed. Everything I 
heard and read points towards this happening if people have 700 or more apps 
installed on the phone. Obviously some people do have that many although I 
can't imagine why you would this many apps or for that matter need this 
many. Maybe they are mostly games and in that case of course those people 
really need to get a life *smile*. Anyhow, if I were in the market for a 128 
Gb iPhone 6 Plus I definitely wouldn't worry about getting one based on how 
few people are affected by that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jessica Dail

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S vs. iphone 6

It's onyly the 128 gb models that have this issue.  I certainly
hope they fix it though, preferaly by next year.
- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
I recommend not getting a six or 6+.  I have heard it crashes
randomly.  I
don't think anyone would want that.  Maybe in a year they will
have this
fixed.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Andrew Lamanche 
wrote:

Sieghard, Kelly, Shawn and others,

Thank you for your comments.  I live in the UK so I don't think
that Apple
Pay will be here any time soon.  What you have so far said is
very
balanced, and I'm reading all your comments with great
attention.

Andrew
On 27 Oct 2014, at 01:59, Sieghard Weitzel 
wrote:

Hello Andrew and Shawn,

Shawn, you made a good point which I forgot.  The support for
Apple Pay
would be a very compelling reason for me to get a 6 if I was
living in
the States.  But as you mentioned, Canada won't see Apple Pay
for a while
although it would be my guess that Apple Pay will be in Canada
before too
long as our financial and credit card systems are similar.  I
fully expect
that I will upgrade again next year, but with Apple Pay taken
out of the
equasion there really isn't enough reason to upgrade from a 5S
to a 6.
As far as how much of a compelling reason Apple Pay is for you,
Andrew,
that is entirely up to you.  I am very intriqued by it and feel
it is very
well thought out and implemented based on what I heard about it.
It
appears to be an Apple product in the old way when Apple would
not
release half-baked stuff as they sometimes have done in the last
couple
of years.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On
Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S vs.  iphone 6

Hi Andrew.  I agree with Sieghard about getting a 5S.  I know
with myself
when I got my 5S, I was only getting $60 for my 4S.  I wanted a
32 GB 5S
but I settled for 16 because it was only $100 so I only had to
pay about
$40 for it plus $15 for the sim card from Telus.

As for processors, I'm not a power user as well.  I don't use
Safari
because I have a Mac to surf the internet with.  So the A7 chip
is good
enough for me.  As long as I can use Alex on my phone, that's
good enough
for me.  Yeah sure, the A8 chip on the 6 and 6 Plus sounds good,
but like
Sieghard said, I don't think there would be any improvements to
speed.
Also, we in Canada can't use Apple Pay, which is one of the
biggest
features of the 6 so there's really no point.  I'll worry about
upgrading
when iOS can no longer be upgraded on my 5S.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Lamanche 
wrote:

Hi,

Based on one's financial situation, what is your opinion about
getting
an iPhone 5S as opposed to iphone 6?  Please give me your honest
opinion.  Yes, I'm looking at the matter from the point of view
of
someone who will have to take a small loan to get a new iPhone.
So I'd
like to know whether I would notice a significant difference in
performance between iPhone 5S and iPhone 6?  Many of you on the
list
have been using iPhone for a variety of tasks in difficult
situations.
Pl

Quick Review of the JAM Rewind Bluetooth Speaker

[SSEric]

This is a little unit that is shaped like a cassette tape (some of you may
have to Google what those were). It is actually larger than a cassette and
is closer to the size of the tapes used in some camcorders (Google those,
too). (Not sure if this is a review or opportunity to date myself.) It comes
in a plastic case like the cassette cases. The price on line was $79; in
stores was $99. It comes in several colors.

Where you would have the spools on the front are speakers. The unit is about
5 inches side to side, so they are pretty close together. In those spots on
the back are vibrating speakers that I guess are supposed to provide the
base response. (I apologize for not knowing actual terminology for these
things.)

The speaker sits on the front edge, where the tape would be exposed. Side to
side it measures about 5 inches, up and down 2-1/2 inches and about 1n inch
thick (approximations). 

There is audio feedback for things like pairing on/off, etc., but not
battery level, so far as I can tell. Buttons are volume up and down, skip
back and forth and play/pause/phone and power. They are tactile. There are
lights for Bluetooth connectivity and battery level. On the bottom is an
imbedded button, like you usually see for resetting devices. You use a
provided pin to change feedback languages, and sounds is an option, too. I
think the languages are English, French, Spanish, Portuguese.

The sound from this little thing is impressive, for what it is. As
mentioned, the speakers are quite close together, so there isn't much stereo
separation. There is a good deal of base response; certainly more than you
would expect. Volume is probably as good as you could expect for what it is,
but is less than I want for large rooms or outdoors. My point of reference
is to the Jawbone Jambox, which outperforms this in all respects.

The real downsides in my opinion are that it sits on an edge, so when you
reach to change tracks or volume it is easy to knock over. Because of the
vibrating speakers on the back you cannot lay it flat to project sound
outward. A kickstand to put it at an angle would really have been nice, as
that does improve volume. Battery level is not shown on the iPhone. Battery
life is supposed to be 8 hours, but you have no way of knowing where you
stand. It connects to only one device at a time. I have not tried it as a
speaker phone, but it has not worked for Seri. You do not get the tones to
start speaking and I've not gotten Seri to respond to anything I've said. I
have to say this is not a problem for me, as I have never used these
features on other Bluetooth devices, except the Seri nonresponse is a bother
at times. However, I mostly use this with my Touch, which is my media
device, so I don't have much need for Seri or phone.

I should have mentioned that, in addition to the plastic cassette case, you
are given a cloth drawstring bag. It comes with a short micro USB cord, but
no charger. You can connect using a 3.5 cord, but one of those was not
included.

This is a cute idea and could be a great option of those only wanting mono
sound, such as listening to books or radio. It certainly is compact and
portable and would be protected in the plastic case. $79 is more than it is
worth, in my opinion, and I would bet closer to the holidays it will be
heavily discounted.

Just my thoughts off the top of my head. If I forgot anything or anyone has
questions, feel free to be in touch.

Eric
sseri...@gmail.com



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Amazon App -- Can't Place Order, etc.

[SSEric]

Perhaps I saw this mentioned earlier, but I did not see any resolution.

Since the update, using an iPhone 5, latest IOS and Amazon updates I can no
longer one-click order, add to cart or add to wish list. I was actually able
to add something to my wish list the other day, but I don't know what I did
to get that to work. Otherwise, I have tried multiple taps, tap and hold,
going to the bottom of the screen and back up to the button I want and
probably a few other maneuvers.

Is there a fix for this?

All thanks in advance!

Eric


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Re: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

[Crystal French]

Very cool, Sieghard.
I think I see a Christmas gift in my future.  

Thanks,
Crystal 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

Hi Crystal,

 

Yes, I do have the rain gauge and it works perfectly. It’s all made from 
moulded plastic and roughly I would say the size is like a large container of 
yogurt (the ones that are 750 ml, not sure what that is in imperial 
measurement). The comparision is not quite right because the bottom part is not 
quite as much in diameter, then it narrows down and the top is basically a 
large funnel about 5 inches across.

 

If you tap the “Rain” button in the app you get 3 values:

 

Rain last hour: this is given in millimeters per hour or, I guess if you have 
it set to imperial measurements in inches per hour

Rain accumula.,: this stands for rain accumulation and is your total amount of 
rainfall since Midnight as it measure midnight to midnight just as minimum and 
maximum temperature

Rain forecast: this gives you an estimate as to how much rain is expected which 
I guess is information pulled from official weather forecast services.

 

What currently is not possible is to see a history, e.g. if it’s been raining a 
lot in the afternoon and evening and you really wanted to know how much rain 
fell that day you would have to check just before midnight.

 

I am planning to talk to them about hopefully making at least the value for the 
previous day available to Voiceover users, but apart from that it works great 
and seems to be very accurate. The rain gauge uses what is called the “tipping 
bucket” design. Inside under the funnel are 2 small holding containers/buckets 
mounted on an arm balanced in the middle. They are so carefully balanced that 
as one fills to the predetermined amount, I think it is 1 ml or maybe even 
less, the weight tips it down and it empties. Then the other bucket which is up 
fills and the process repeats. This is a common design for self-emptying 
electronic rain gauges and you just have to make sure  you place the rain gauge 
on a level surface. It has a standard quarter inch tripod mount on the bottom 
so it would be best to mount it or ask somebody to mount it for you and during 
that process a level needs to be used to make sure it is perfectly level and 
not tilted sideways as that would result in inaccurate readings.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Crystal French
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Sieghard,

I have been wondering for a long time about a talking rain gauge.

 

Do you also use this unit, and is it also accessible?

 

I’ve been using an indoor/outdoor talking thermometer, but the outdoor monitor 
keeps going out, but this weather station sounds exactly what I would like.

 

Thanks,

Crystal 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:56 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Hello Don and others,

As Andy and Christopher pointed out, in order to tell temperature you first 
need a sensor which measures the temperature and then conveys this information 
to an app on your phone. Otherwise it would be like looking for an app which 
gives you your blood pressure without the actual blood pressure device.

Anyhow, there is good news and bad news. There is a fantastic thermometer 
available, but it measures a lot more than temperature and it does so not only 
for inside but also for outside. OK, so I guess the fact that it does more than 
what you want isn't necessarily a bad thing. The bad thing in this case is the 
fact that because of its capabilities this device might be a lot more expensive 
then what you are looking for. So what is it I am talking about?

The company is called Netatmo and they are from France. They have released a 
product specifically for iOS devices called the "Netatmo Weather Station". The 
price is $179.00 and you can buy it directly for them or from Amazon. For this 
you get the main indoor module which needs to be plugged into to power via a 
Micro USB cable and it comes with an adapter for your wall outlet where the USB 
cable plugs in. It also comes with 4 AA batteries which maintain the unit in 
case of a power outage. You also get the outdoor module which take 4 AAA 
batteries (included).
Both units are a perfect cylinder 2 Inches in diameter and are made of 
aluminium. The indoor module if I remember correctly is about 6 inches long and 
the outdoor module about 4 inches.
You can also get additional indoor modules if you want to monitor temperature 
and so on in other rooms. Those are $79/each, you can add up to 3 of those and 
they are identical in look to the outdoor 

Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Alex Hall]

Just touch the screen, and don't lift your finger. You'll hear two tones, then 
VoiceOver will tell you you are in Explore Mode. As to the phone moving, if you 
have it right between the two modes, as in around a 45-degree angle, then even 
a small movement will cause it to switch. If you have it more definitely one 
way or the other, it should be fine. Remember that this is relative to the 
ground, so if you have it flat on your leg, but your leg is already at an angle 
to the floor, then the phone will see that as being at the same angle.
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> How do I get into explore mode? Is there a way to lock the keys? Even if I 
> don't move my phone at all, it will switch modes on me.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit 
>> fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an 
>> App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me.
>> 
>> Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time 
>> in Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just 
>> as easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille 
>> input natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never 
>> use it now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more 
>> efficient.
>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the 
>>> dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the 
>>> phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
  
 Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility 
 settings.  I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now.
  
 Dan Beaver
 
 From: Jessica Dail 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
 
 My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this 
 feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the 
 buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it 
 another try.
 If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would 
 greatly appreciate it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver >>> > wrote:
 
> Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However, when trying to enter a password 
> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other 
> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the 
> braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error 
> from the service I am using.
>  
> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it 
> before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.
>  
> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have 
> to say about it.
>  
> thanks.
>  
> Dan Beaver
> 
> From: Alex Hall 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protectedfields?
> 
> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my 
> passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as 
> Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe 
> right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when 
> entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger 
> swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done.
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau > > wrote:
>> 
>> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The 
>> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l 
>> characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some 
>> degree.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>>  
>> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay

Re: Voicedream doesn't like some files

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Anne,

Update to iOS 8.1 if you haven't already. This problem occurred in iOS 8, but 
it was solved in 8.1. Also, be sure you're running the latest version of 
Dropbox. RTF compatibility was improved in Dropbox recently as well.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Anne Günther  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I wanted to put some files into voicedream. After I got them from dropbox I 
> was told they can't be read. They're normal rtf files. They can be opened on 
> the pc and in Pronto! (which is the german cousin of braille sense)just fine. 
> What could be the problem?
> Guenni
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RE: iPhone 4s screen unresponsive ?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marissa,

If your issue is because of a known bug in the software then reinstalling iOS 
probably won't fix this. But just as with a PC over time problems can come up 
which may affect the performance of the device and a fresh install of the 
operating system may help.
I don't think the size of your device should make that much difference and yes, 
Apple does fix problems and new releases of iOS do result in better 
performance. A good example was the release of iOS 7.1 which ran much faster 
and better on older devices like the iPhone 4. A lot of people, especially 
Voiceover users, also reported that iOS 8.1 already works much better on 
devices like the 4S or the iPod Touch which prior to 8.1 experienced a lot of 
Voiceover restarts.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marissa Solaun
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 4s screen unresponsive ?

Will do but here are 3 questions:

1. If it's q software issue and I restore using iTunes wont I just be 
re-installing the software and the same issue will arise ?

2. Do these issues ever actually get fixed or is this apple's scheme of having 
customers buy a new phone? Wouldn't these same "software issues" be present on 
newer iPhones but just take some time before they show up?

3 does this issue have anything to with that my phone has 16GB and my 4 had 32?

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Re: Ibooks and Focus 40

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Try touching the screen in the middle while the book is open. This should bring 
focus to the text. You will then be able to read it with your braille display.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 5, 2014, at 1:58 PM, denise avant  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I have a PDF adobe text file I imported into Ibooks. I paired the
> focus 40 with my Ipad. While the various buttons show up in Braille,
> none of the text shows up though voiceover reads it just fine. Is
> there any setting I need to adjust.
> By the way, I tried reading the exact same file on a Windows computer
> with Jaws under adobe, and the text shows up on the focus 40 just
> fine. Actually, the file is reading better under windows.
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Re: Sound Quality IPad Mini

[Alan J Paganelli]

When I got my iPad Air in January of this year, I was surprised at how well 
NLS Talking books sounded on the air.  I just wish Apple had made stereo 
speakers on either side of the screen.





Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. 
Get

a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request. Thanks for listening!
-Original Message- 
From: Lynda Ingraham

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sound Quality IPad Mini

Hi,

I have the Ipad mini with retina display. I am hearing impaired. I find the
sound quality to be superior to the earlier generations of the full-size
Ipads. NLS books and music sound phenomenal on the mini.

HTH

Lynda

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RE: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Crystal,

 

Yes, I do have the rain gauge and it works perfectly. It’s all made from 
moulded plastic and roughly I would say the size is like a large container of 
yogurt (the ones that are 750 ml, not sure what that is in imperial 
measurement). The comparision is not quite right because the bottom part is not 
quite as much in diameter, then it narrows down and the top is basically a 
large funnel about 5 inches across.

 

If you tap the “Rain” button in the app you get 3 values:

 

Rain last hour: this is given in millimeters per hour or, I guess if you have 
it set to imperial measurements in inches per hour

Rain accumula.,: this stands for rain accumulation and is your total amount of 
rainfall since Midnight as it measure midnight to midnight just as minimum and 
maximum temperature

Rain forecast: this gives you an estimate as to how much rain is expected which 
I guess is information pulled from official weather forecast services.

 

What currently is not possible is to see a history, e.g. if it’s been raining a 
lot in the afternoon and evening and you really wanted to know how much rain 
fell that day you would have to check just before midnight.

 

I am planning to talk to them about hopefully making at least the value for the 
previous day available to Voiceover users, but apart from that it works great 
and seems to be very accurate. The rain gauge uses what is called the “tipping 
bucket” design. Inside under the funnel are 2 small holding containers/buckets 
mounted on an arm balanced in the middle. They are so carefully balanced that 
as one fills to the predetermined amount, I think it is 1 ml or maybe even 
less, the weight tips it down and it empties. Then the other bucket which is up 
fills and the process repeats. This is a common design for self-emptying 
electronic rain gauges and you just have to make sure  you place the rain gauge 
on a level surface. It has a standard quarter inch tripod mount on the bottom 
so it would be best to mount it or ask somebody to mount it for you and during 
that process a level needs to be used to make sure it is perfectly level and 
not tilted sideways as that would result in inaccurate readings.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Crystal French
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Sieghard,

I have been wondering for a long time about a talking rain gauge.

 

Do you also use this unit, and is it also accessible?

 

I’ve been using an indoor/outdoor talking thermometer, but the outdoor monitor 
keeps going out, but this weather station sounds exactly what I would like.

 

Thanks,

Crystal 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:56 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

 

Hello Don and others,

As Andy and Christopher pointed out, in order to tell temperature you first 
need a sensor which measures the temperature and then conveys this information 
to an app on your phone. Otherwise it would be like looking for an app which 
gives you your blood pressure without the actual blood pressure device.

Anyhow, there is good news and bad news. There is a fantastic thermometer 
available, but it measures a lot more than temperature and it does so not only 
for inside but also for outside. OK, so I guess the fact that it does more than 
what you want isn't necessarily a bad thing. The bad thing in this case is the 
fact that because of its capabilities this device might be a lot more expensive 
then what you are looking for. So what is it I am talking about?

The company is called Netatmo and they are from France. They have released a 
product specifically for iOS devices called the "Netatmo Weather Station". The 
price is $179.00 and you can buy it directly for them or from Amazon. For this 
you get the main indoor module which needs to be plugged into to power via a 
Micro USB cable and it comes with an adapter for your wall outlet where the USB 
cable plugs in. It also comes with 4 AA batteries which maintain the unit in 
case of a power outage. You also get the outdoor module which take 4 AAA 
batteries (included).
Both units are a perfect cylinder 2 Inches in diameter and are made of 
aluminium. The indoor module if I remember correctly is about 6 inches long and 
the outdoor module about 4 inches.
You can also get additional indoor modules if you want to monitor temperature 
and so on in other rooms. Those are $79/each, you can add up to 3 of those and 
they are identical in look to the outdoor module.
The indoor module needs to be connected to your home WiFi and you can then 
download the free Netatmo app which was pretty much completely inaccessible 
when this product was released 2 years ag

Voicedream doesn't like some files

[Anne Günther]

Hi
I wanted to put some files into voicedream. After I got them from 
dropbox I was told they can't be read. They're normal rtf files. They 
can be opened on the pc and in Pronto! (which is the german cousin of 
braille sense)just fine. What could be the problem?

Guenni

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Re: Voice Dream looking for beta testers for a new app

[Scott Berry]

It’s probably supposed to be

wins...@voicedream.com 


> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:24 AM, RobH.  wrote:
> 
> The address we are to follow is all screwed up and can't be done.  Would you 
> check and send that bit again please?
> 
> Ta, R.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Luís Melo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 3:43 PM
> Subject: Voice Dream looking for beta testers for a new app
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi,
> I would like to share the following tweet:
> *Voice Dream* ‏@*VoiceDreamApp*
> Looking for beta testers for a new app: a text editor with voice feedback.
> English only for now. Email me at winston@voicedream.
> 
> Melo,
> @voiceoveruser
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Re: deletin pictures from my phone

[carol.pearso...@googlemail.com]

Ah.  Shame!  Thought though that this would be the case!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Cole 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: deletin pictures from my phone


  No,
  You can only copy or delete.


  Thanks,
  Rob
  Sent from my MacBook


  On Nov 4, 2014, at 4:11 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:


Are you allowed to rename the pictures?

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: deletin pictures from my phone


I'm using iPhone 5S with IOS 7.12.
I was also able to do it with iPhone 4S IOS 6.x
I have never gotten a error such as yours.
do you get that error with other files, or just that certain one?
is the photo you are having trouble deleting open on the iPhone, or in
use by another app?
are you the admin of the PC?

On 11/4/2014 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

  Rob,

  Are you saying you can delete the pictures on the phone from the 
computer? If so I'd really like to know how. I seem to remember that this used 
to be possible, but at least I am not able to do so any more. Maybe it's some 
setting, but I actually think Apple is not allowing this. Here is the message I 
get when I try to delete a picture from my iPhone using Windows 7:

  Error Deleting File
  IMG_0107 could not be deleted.
  You do not have permission to delete this item.
  Skip Skip All Cancel

  Regards,
  Sieghard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Rob
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: deletin pictures from my phone

  Hi,
  Here is how I do it on Windows 7.
  Connect iPhone to PC.
  A message pops up asking what to do with Rob's iPhone.
  If you dont get this message, dont worry.
  go to my computer and choose Walter's iPhone\internal storage\DCIM\ you 
can select all, then  copy the pictures and videos to your PC, and then delete 
them from the phone.
  thats it.
  good luck.

  Thanks,
  Rob


  On 11/4/2014 8:22 AM, Walter Harper wrote:

Hello all,
How do I delete pictures from my Iphone?  Is there a way I can connect 
it to a PC by the USB cable?
Walter


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Ibooks and Focus 40

[denise avant]

Hello everyone,

I have a PDF adobe text file I imported into Ibooks. I paired the
focus 40 with my Ipad. While the various buttons show up in Braille,
none of the text shows up though voiceover reads it just fine. Is
there any setting I need to adjust.
By the way, I tried reading the exact same file on a Windows computer
with Jaws under adobe, and the text shows up on the focus 40 just
fine. Actually, the file is reading better under windows.

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Re: Sound Getting Stuck In The Earpiece After Removing Headset

[Alan J Paganelli]

I have the Plantronics Voyager Legend ear peace.  I notice that when in 
certain apps that when I remove the ear peace from my ear that the audio is 
paused and when I put the ear peace back in my ear that the audio resumes. 
It's very handy when listening to an NLS Talking Book.  I do love this ear 
peace though and would buy another one.





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-Original Message- 
From: Eileen Misrahi

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound Getting Stuck In The Earpiece After Removing Headset

Hello,

Okay. It seems like there are more than myself that is having this problem. 
At this point, I'm wondering if this is a software problem or a hardware 
issue. My iphone6 is less than 2 weeks old. I have talked with others that 
also agree that they have this issue with different various apps such as 
after using Zello. I think I will put this on my list to contact 
accessibility at Apple and see if I get a constructive response or the 
general reply.


Thanks for verifying.

Eileen
On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:54 AM, "Joe"  wrote:

This is also happening to me with my Plantronics Edge connected to an 
iphone 6 running the latest ios.  If I leave the edge turned on and take 
it off my ear it is supposed to cause the phone speaker to become active. 
I thought the fault was in the headset, maybe it's the phone.


Joe


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Victor Hugo Gallegos

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound Getting Stuck In The Earpiece After Removing Headset

This happens to me as well, I am using an iPhone 5S, iOS 8.1, it only 
happens to me when the phone screen is locked, once I unlock the phone, I 
can go between the earpiece, and speaker, after I pulled out the 
headphones.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
wrote:


Hello List,

I thought I would inquire if anyone has had this happened to them using 
an iPhone6 running iOS 8.1. I was using my wired headsets on my iPhone 
and decided to remove them.  Sound remain in the earpiece. This use to 
happen  with my old iPhone4, which I just returned. I am an old ham in 
getting the sound back through the speakers, but I wasn't expecjing this 
since the phone is less whan 2 weeks old. I hope I didn't get a lemon. On 
my old phone, this didn't begin until I had the phone for a couple of 
years. I just need to know if others have seen this also before making my 
first trip to the Apple store. I know that lint can make this occur, but 
so soon?


Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen


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Re: contracts organizer

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. Look at Simpler Pro, which costs a few dollars but sounds like it
would do what you are after.

Wayne

On 11/1/14, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone know of any accessible contact organizer apps that will help to
> organize contacts, and delete all double/triple up contacts?
>
> Thanks
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Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Jessica Dail]

How do I get into explore mode? Is there a way to lock the keys? Even if I 
don't move my phone at all, it will switch modes on me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit 
> fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an 
> App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me.
> 
> Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in 
> Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as 
> easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input 
> natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it 
> now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more 
> efficient.
>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
>> 
>> The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the 
>> dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the 
>> phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. 
>>>  I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now.
>>>  
>>> Dan Beaver
>>> 
>>> From: Jessica Dail
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>>> 
>>> My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this 
>>> feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the 
>>> buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it 
>>> another try.
>>> If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would 
>>> greatly appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
 
 Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However, when trying to enter a password 
 for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other 
 protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the 
 braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error 
 from the service I am using.
  
 I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before 
 clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.
  
 I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have 
 to say about it.
  
 thanks.
  
 Dan Beaver
 
 From: Alex Hall
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
 
 I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, 
 and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). 
 You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least 
 I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your 
 password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the 
 enter gesture) to submit and you're done.
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
> 
> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The 
> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l 
> characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some 
> degree.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jessica Dail
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>  
> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for 
> me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device 
> will not let you lock  the position of the buttons.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
>> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for 
>> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the 
>> fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to 
>> unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app.
>>  
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan, I have had the same experience.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
 
>>>

Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Alex Hall]

Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit 
fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an App 
Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me.

Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in 
Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as 
easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input 
natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it 
now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more efficient.
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the 
> dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone 
> in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings.  
>> I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now.
>>  
>> Dan Beaver
>> 
>> From: Jessica Dail 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>> 
>> My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this 
>> feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the 
>> buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it 
>> another try.
>> If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly 
>> appreciate it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However, when trying to enter a password 
>>> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other 
>>> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the 
>>> braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error 
>>> from the service I am using.
>>>  
>>> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before 
>>> clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.
>>>  
>>> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have 
>>> to say about it.
>>>  
>>> thanks.
>>>  
>>> Dan Beaver
>>> 
>>> From: Alex Hall 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>>> 
>>> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, 
>>> and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You 
>>> need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've 
>>> found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password 
>>> for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter 
>>> gesture) to submit and you're done.
 On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau >>> > wrote:
 
 I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The 
 ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters 
 allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.
  
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
  
 I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for 
 me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will 
 not let you lock  the position of the buttons.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran >>> > wrote:
 
> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for 
> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the 
> fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, 
> but this text is not part of a web page or app.
>  
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Dan, I have had the same experience.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2014, a

Re: two ios 8.1 bugs?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I just use the phone app to dial numbers.
On Nov 5, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Dan Beaver  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> do you see this no matter what method you use to make a call  or is it only 
> when you tell Siri to dial a number.  I see this everytime I tell Siri to 
> dial a person or number.  However, if I open the phone app and double tap a 
> contact or recent call the keyboard is always there.
> 
> If using the Siri method I too hear no tones and VO speaks nothing to do 
> with the screen at that point.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dan Beaver
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:29 PM
> To: 
> Subject: two ios 8.1 bugs?
> 
> Hi guys:
> When I make a phone call on my 5S, and have to press a number to access a 
> menu, none of the numbers on the keyboard will speak with VO.
> Second issue is the iTunes password keyboard letters will not speak when I 
> try and make a purchase from the phone. Can you duplicate these issues? They 
> worked fine in v 7.02.
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recording with the uverse easy remote

[Patti Johnson]

I have just learned how to do this and it is so neat.  But I have a 
couple questions.  Am I correct in that you cannot set your dvr up to 
record a future show? I know a sighted person can do it with the regular 
remote, but you can't with the easy remote, is that right?
Also, once you pick a show to record, and it's recording, can you watch 
something else while that show is recording?  I am thinking you can but 
just want to be sure I am right. Can you record more than one show at a 
time with this app?   At any rate it's so neat to be able to do this 
totally on my own now.

Thanks,
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Re: Voice Dream looking for beta testers for a new app

[RobH.]

The address we are to follow is all screwed up and can't be done.  Would you 
check and send that bit again please?

Ta, R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Luís Melo" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 3:43 PM
Subject: Voice Dream looking for beta testers for a new app



  Hi,
I would like to share the following tweet:
 *Voice Dream* ‏@*VoiceDreamApp*
 Looking for beta testers for a new app: a text editor with voice feedback.
English only for now. Email me at winston@voicedream.

Melo,
@voiceoveruser

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RE: iPhone 4s screen unresponsive ?

[Marissa Solaun]

Will do but here are 3 questions:

1. If it's q software issue and I restore using iTunes wont I just be 
re-installing the software and the same issue will arise ?

2. Do these issues ever actually get fixed or is this apple's scheme of having 
customers buy a new phone? Wouldn't these same "software issues" be present on 
newer iPhones but just take some time before they show up?

3 does this issue have anything to with that my phone has 16GB and my 4 had 32?

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Re: IOS 8.1 user guide on Iphone 5

[Grant Hardy]

Hello Dan,

In addition to the iBook Store, the following is the link to the accessible 
version of the user guide: http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/en.lproj/index.html

Best,

Grant

Sent from mobile

On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:

Hi,
 
Has anyone else noticed that the user guide is almost totally useless?
 
If not I sure wonder what is wrong with mine.
 
When I say useless I mean that I can't click on any entries in the table of 
contents and once in the main menu kind of thing and after clicking on English 
VO speaks absolutely nothing.
 
I have already reported this to Apple Accessibility.
 
thanks.
 
Dan Beaver 
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Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Jessica Dail]

The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the dots 
going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone in my 
lap, to make it flat, it switches modes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings.  
> I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now.
>  
> Dan Beaver
> 
> From: Jessica Dail
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
> 
> My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this 
> feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the 
> buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it 
> another try.
> If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly 
> appreciate it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However,when trying to enter a password 
>> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other 
>> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille 
>> keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the 
>> service I am using.
>>  
>> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before 
>> clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.
>>  
>> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to 
>> say about it.
>>  
>> thanks.
>>  
>> Dan Beaver
>> 
>> From: Alex Hall
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>> 
>> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, 
>> and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You 
>> need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've 
>> found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for 
>> the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) 
>> to submit and you're done.
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The 
>>> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters 
>>> allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jessica Dail
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>>>  
>>> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me 
>>> to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not 
>>> let  you lock  the position of the buttons.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 
 I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
 enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for 
 error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the 
 fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, 
 but this text is not part of a web page or app.
  
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
 with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
 
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan, I have had the same experience.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I have been using the braille keyboard.  Now I am finding that it 
>> doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields.
>>  
>> It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at 
>>all.
>>  
>> Is there a way to make it work?
>>  
>> thanks.
>>  
>> Dan Beaver
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Re: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

[Crystal French]

Sieghard,
I have been wondering for a long time about a talking rain gauge.

Do you also use this unit, and is it also accessible?

I’ve been using an indoor/outdoor talking thermometer, but the outdoor monitor 
keeps going out, but this weather station sounds exactly what I would like.

Thanks,
Crystal 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

Hello Don and others,

As Andy and Christopher pointed out, in order to tell temperature you first 
need a sensor which measures the temperature and then conveys this information 
to an app on your phone. Otherwise it would be like looking for an app which 
gives you your blood pressure without the actual blood pressure device.

Anyhow, there is good news and bad news. There is a fantastic thermometer 
available, but it measures a lot more than temperature and it does so not only 
for inside but also for outside. OK, so I guess the fact that it does more than 
what you want isn't necessarily a bad thing. The bad thing in this case is the 
fact that because of its capabilities this device might be a lot more expensive 
then what you are looking for. So what is it I am talking about?

The company is called Netatmo and they are from France. They have released a 
product specifically for iOS devices called the "Netatmo Weather Station". The 
price is $179.00 and you can buy it directly for them or from Amazon. For this 
you get the main indoor module which needs to be plugged into to power via a 
Micro USB cable and it comes with an adapter for your wall outlet where the USB 
cable plugs in. It also comes with 4 AA batteries which maintain the unit in 
case of a power outage. You also get the outdoor module which take 4 AAA 
batteries (included).
Both units are a perfect cylinder 2 Inches in diameter and are made of 
aluminium. The indoor module if I remember correctly is about 6 inches long and 
the outdoor module about 4 inches.
You can also get additional indoor modules if you want to monitor temperature 
and so on in other rooms. Those are $79/each, you can add up to 3 of those and 
they are identical in look to the outdoor module.
The indoor module needs to be connected to your home WiFi and you can then 
download the free Netatmo app which was pretty much completely inaccessible 
when this product was released 2 years ago. I had bought it at the time and 
then contacted the company which was very receptive to making it accessible. I 
was put in touch with their head of the development team in Paris and we had 
several Skype conversations. He then made several beta versions after informing 
himself of what he needed to do in order to make this mostly accessible. I 
tested these and provided feedback and the result is now a very accessible app 
which gives you access to all the main readings. I say "mostly accessible" 
because the app displays various graphs of weather data when you turn the phone 
in landscape mode and these are not accessible due to their graphical nature.
The wizard to set up the station also used to be not accessible, but you can 
now set up a station completely by yourself using the app.

The indoor module measures the following:
Current temperature
Minimum and maximum temperature for the day (midnight to midnight)
CO2 level in "PPM" (parts per million) including letting you know when it's low 
or high in which case you should ventilated your room
Humidity
Noise level in decibels

The outdoor module measures the following:
Current temperature
Minimum and maximum temperature for the day (midnight to midnight)
Outdoor "Feels Like" temperature
Humidity
Air quality if available in your area since this information is taken from the 
internet and official government weather stations

You also get air pressure (barometric pressure) which I am putting separately 
as air pressure is not indoor or outdoor specific, it's the same whether you 
are inside or outside.

The additional indoor modules measure the same as the main indoor module with 
the exception of noise level. The developer told me that since additional 
indoor modules run on battery power, measuring noise level would result in an 
unacceptable amount of battery life because the module would have to be 
constantly listening which apparently uses up a lot of power.

If you search the archive for "Netatmo" you will find several threads from the 
past 2 years. There are quite a few people who have bought the Netatmo Weather 
Station and I think most are quite satisfied. I think it's awesome and it works 
great. Netatmo is also working on releasing additional sensors. Earlier this 
year a rain gauge was released which also costs $79. It will measure rainfall 
amount and there is a "Rain" button which you tap on to check those readings. I 
guess they decided to put them on an extra screen so that the main screen 
doesn't become too cluttered.
I believe Netatmo is wo

Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Dan Beaver]

Hi,

Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings.  I 
did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now.

Dan Beaver


From: Jessica Dail 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?


My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this 
feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the 
buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another 
try.
If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly 
appreciate it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver  wrote:


  Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However, when trying to enter a password for 
my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected 
field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and 
press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using.

  I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before 
clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.

  I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to 
say about it.

  thanks.

  Dan Beaver


  From: Alex Hall 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?


  I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, 
and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You 
need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've 
found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for 
the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to 
submit and you're done.

On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:


I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The 
ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters 
allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jessica Dail
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
 
I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me 
to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let 
you lock  the position of the buttons.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

  I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error 
with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when 
typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is 
not part of a web page or app.
   
  HtH,
  Teresa

  "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

  On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Dan, I have had the same experience.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:

  Hi,
   
  I have been using the braille keyboard.  Now I am finding that it 
doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields.
   
  It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field 
at all.
   
  Is there a way to make it work?
   
  thanks.
   
  Dan Beaver
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Update In Using My Apex WithThe iPhone 6

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello Apex Users, 

Okay!!! I took the plunge and called Humanware a few minutes ago. The 
persistent me wasn't going to give us.  This is what is working for me as I 
compose the email: 

1. Dot 1 will move back one element or object and dot 4 will move forward one 
element or object. 
2. When you want to move to the next edit field (lets say) in an email, you 
need to add an extra space before using the dot chords mentioned above. 
3. When in the message body edit field, I move the cursor to the end with the 
dot 3-6 chord and then rout the cursor  bam  to the capital sigd' before the 
word "sent." Then I an ready to braille my messages or the text body of the 
email. 
4. To send the message or email, I use the command dots 1-2-3 to go to the top 
of the page. I then use the command dot with space to move to the send button. 

I hope  my description above will assist others in using their Apex with their 
new iPhone devices. 
This entire email has been composed using my Apex with my iPhone 6. 

Best,   
Eileen  Sent from my iPhone 

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RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

[Neal Ewers]

All of this reminds me of the early days of computers before Windows when each 
software developer had their own interface for their applications. You really 
had to get your head around how the developer had designed the application 
before it became second nature to you. With Windows And Mac Os development, all 
of a sudden, all things mostly looked the same, or at least they had the same 
flavor such that you didn't have to have a different mind set for each 
application. In this way, iTunes is different. Yes, some of the basic Windows 
and Mac navigation is there, but there is a lot of stuff on top of this that 
one has to either fight or figure out what the programmer must have been 
thinking when iTunes was developed.

I don't use iTunes a lot, so I didn't really get a good feel for it up to this 
point. I don't use it any more now, but, somehow, version 12 seems easier for 
me to get my head around. Of course, this may be where my head is to start 
with. This is to say that not everyone may feel this way, but this has caused 
me to go back and appreciate where those of us who have been around for a long 
time have come from with regard to software.

Neal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

I don't care a lot for the new iTunes, but I can use it for my limited needs.  
Takes longer but what else is new.  At least I can tell where I am and move on. 
 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

Well, you're certainly right, in my opinion, about Windows Media Player. I 
don't even use it. I have updated to iTunes 12 and I actually like it better 
than previous versions. It is a different interface, and I suspect there are 
some accessibility issues, at least I have heard of some, but I think what 
trips up a number of people is that it is not the way they expect it to be from 
using previous versions. The shortcut keys can get you around rather easily and 
the help file contains a very extensive list of additional shortcut keys.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

I'm not a big iTunes fan, but other than maybe FooBar, every media library 
application I've used as been a pretty unique experience. Winamp may have a lot 
of hot keys, but they aren't standard and try working with remote content 
through Winamp.  Windows Media Playre also has a pretty unique interface that 
takes some getting used to. If you have to jump through hoops to learn a media 
player anyway, it might as well be iTunes if you're going to use it with your 
Apple devices. I'm not trying to talk anyone into using iTunes, and I don't 
really care what multimedia player people use, but if you want an application 
to manage your media library, and you own an Apple device, you might as well 
give iTunes a try and see how it stacks up against Winamp, WMP or whatever 
accessible multimedia player you can find.

On 11/04/2014 01:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Neal,
>
> And you have to also take into consideration that iTunes somehow still 
> has a reputation for being clunky, slow and well, inaccessible and 
> very hard to use. I see so many messages on here where people say 
> things  I avoid iTunes if I can  or  I hate iTunes  or and so on. I 
> used to use Winamp and Windows Media player a bit and I am not saying 
> Winamp doesn t have good hot key navigation and so on, but iTunes has 
> been my choice for a long time of course largely due to the fact that 
> I started using iOS devices 5 years ago and I decided that to get the 
> most of my iOS device I better learn how I can get the most out of iTunes.
>
> Could iTunes be better? Of course it could and I hope in time it will 
> improve, but it is very accessible and once  you understand the basic 
> principles about syncing, the different libraries and areas such as 
> your libraries, your devices and the iTunes store it really is quite nice.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Neal Ewers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
>
> This does raise an interesting point. Sometimes we think things are 
> not accessible because they really aren t, or at least parts of them 
> are not. But sometimes, if there is a totally different interface as 
> there is in iTunes 12 and things do not look like we are used to 
> seeing, we ma

The answer is "Netatmo", was: App for telling inside temperatures

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Don and others,

As Andy and Christopher pointed out, in order to tell temperature you first 
need a sensor which measures the temperature and then conveys this information 
to an app on your phone. Otherwise it would be like looking for an app which 
gives you your blood pressure without the actual blood pressure device.

Anyhow, there is good news and bad news. There is a fantastic thermometer 
available, but it measures a lot more than temperature and it does so not only 
for inside but also for outside. OK, so I guess the fact that it does more than 
what you want isn't necessarily a bad thing. The bad thing in this case is the 
fact that because of its capabilities this device might be a lot more expensive 
then what you are looking for. So what is it I am talking about?

The company is called Netatmo and they are from France. They have released a 
product specifically for iOS devices called the "Netatmo Weather Station". The 
price is $179.00 and you can buy it directly for them or from Amazon. For this 
you get the main indoor module which needs to be plugged into to power via a 
Micro USB cable and it comes with an adapter for your wall outlet where the USB 
cable plugs in. It also comes with 4 AA batteries which maintain the unit in 
case of a power outage. You also get the outdoor module which take 4 AAA 
batteries (included).
Both units are a perfect cylinder 2 Inches in diameter and are made of 
aluminium. The indoor module if I remember correctly is about 6 inches long and 
the outdoor module about 4 inches.
You can also get additional indoor modules if you want to monitor temperature 
and so on in other rooms. Those are $79/each, you can add up to 3 of those and 
they are identical in look to the outdoor module.
The indoor module needs to be connected to your home WiFi and you can then 
download the free Netatmo app which was pretty much completely inaccessible 
when this product was released 2 years ago. I had bought it at the time and 
then contacted the company which was very receptive to making it accessible. I 
was put in touch with their head of the development team in Paris and we had 
several Skype conversations. He then made several beta versions after informing 
himself of what he needed to do in order to make this mostly accessible. I 
tested these and provided feedback and the result is now a very accessible app 
which gives you access to all the main readings. I say "mostly accessible" 
because the app displays various graphs of weather data when you turn the phone 
in landscape mode and these are not accessible due to their graphical nature.
The wizard to set up the station also used to be not accessible, but you can 
now set up a station completely by yourself using the app.

The indoor module measures the following:
Current temperature
Minimum and maximum temperature for the day (midnight to midnight)
CO2 level in "PPM" (parts per million) including letting you know when it's low 
or high in which case you should ventilated your room
Humidity
Noise level in decibels

The outdoor module measures the following:
Current temperature
Minimum and maximum temperature for the day (midnight to midnight)
Outdoor "Feels Like" temperature
Humidity
Air quality if available in your area since this information is taken from the 
internet and official government weather stations

You also get air pressure (barometric pressure) which I am putting separately 
as air pressure is not indoor or outdoor specific, it's the same whether you 
are inside or outside.

The additional indoor modules measure the same as the main indoor module with 
the exception of noise level. The developer told me that since additional 
indoor modules run on battery power, measuring noise level would result in an 
unacceptable amount of battery life because the module would have to be 
constantly listening which apparently uses up a lot of power.

If you search the archive for "Netatmo" you will find several threads from the 
past 2 years. There are quite a few people who have bought the Netatmo Weather 
Station and I think most are quite satisfied. I think it's awesome and it works 
great. Netatmo is also working on releasing additional sensors. Earlier this 
year a rain gauge was released which also costs $79. It will measure rainfall 
amount and there is a "Rain" button which you tap on to check those readings. I 
guess they decided to put them on an extra screen so that the main screen 
doesn't become too cluttered.
I believe Netatmo is working on an anemometer (wind sensor) which will most 
likely be the next sensor to be released.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH.
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App for telling inside temperatures

The alternative is if a BT thermometer device exists with an app for the iOs 
or other system.
Sort of gismo to come out of H

Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Jessica Dail]

My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this 
feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the 
buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another 
try.
If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly 
appreciate it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
> 
> Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However, when trying to enter a password for 
> my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected 
> field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard 
> and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am 
> using.
>  
> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before 
> clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.
>  
> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to 
> say about it.
>  
> thanks.
>  
> Dan Beaver
> 
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
> 
> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, 
> and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You 
> need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've 
> found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for 
> the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) 
> to submit and you're done.
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
>> 
>> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The 
>> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters 
>> allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Jessica Dail
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>>  
>> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me 
>> to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not 
>> let you lock  the position of the buttons.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
>>> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for 
>>> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the 
>>> fingers when  typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to 
>>> unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app.
>>>  
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>> 
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 Dan, I have had the same experience.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have been using the braille keyboard.  Now I am finding that it doesn't 
> seem to work in password or protected fields.
>  
> It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at 
> all.
>  
> Is there a way to make it work?
>  
> thanks.
>  
> Dan Beaver
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Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard

[Teresa Cochran]

Mine is too old for that feature, as well.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Nov 5, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> Oh, that's the 'wonderful' Power 123 switch and lock. Unfortunately my 
> 'classic' Focus40 Blue is too old for that, but it feels so groovy reading on 
> it at times. However, I have a Focus14 (which I use with iPhone) to which I 
> was able to apply the Power 123 firmware update. I got the 14 before the 
> update became available, but it was still within the range for the update.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Arianna Sepulveda" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard
> 
> 
> The following comes from the Focus 40 Blue User Guide:
> Locking the Perkins-style Keyboard
> When using your Focus Blue in front of your computer’s QWERTY
> keyboard, you can lock the Perkins-style keys on the top of the
> display to prevent accidentally pressing them and entering unwanted
> text or commands.
> To lock the Focus Blue keyboard, press the Power button to display the
> status information and then simultaneously press a Cursor Router and
> the left Mode button. To indicate that the keyboard is locked, DOTS
> 2-3-4-6-7-8 and DOTS 1-3-5-6-7-8 will be displayed in two cells toward
> the right end of the display, just before the connection status. Press
> any other control to return to normal operation. Once locked, pressing
> DOTS 1 through 8 or the SPACEBAR will no longer send keystrokes
> through to the computer.
> To unlock the keyboard so you can once again enter text or perform
> commands from the Focus Blue, press the Power button to display the
> status information and then simultaneously press a Cursor Router and
> the right Mode button. Press any other control to return to normal
> operation and you can once again enter text using the Focus Blue
> keyboard.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On 11/5/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> How דdo you access that?
>> 
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 07:38, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> I know that there's a keyboard lock mode on the Focus Braille displays.
>> Maybe you accidentally locked your keyboard.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What were you doing (or trying to do) when the keyboard stopped working?
>>> have you been able to try out any other BT keyboard with your iPhone? Try
>>> out the focus Blue with any other device? there will also be a Diagnostics
>>> Mode, which your Users' Guide you would've got with the Focus will tell
>>> you about (in one of the appendices, I think), that'll tell you how to
>>> test the keys and buttons on the display with the displayed disconnected.
>>> .
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>>> 
>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 21:01, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is the display working otherwise?
>>> 
 On 11/4/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 A couple of days ago the keyboard on my Focus 40 Blue Braille display
 stopped working with my iPhone (and my Mac). I really need it for
 university
 to take notes. I've only had it for about a week and a half. My dealer
 hasn't gotten back to me about this yet. First of all, how do I get the
 display writing again? Second of all, how might I have gotten into this
 mess? Third of all, how do I prevent it from happening again?
 
 I really need your advice about this. I'd be very appreciative of any
 help I
 could get. Thanks,,
 
 
 
 Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Dan Beaver]

Well, I am using 6 dot braille.  However, when trying to enter a password for 
my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected 
field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and 
press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using.

I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before 
clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.

I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to 
say about it.

thanks.

Dan Beaver


From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?


I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and 
passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to 
switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that 
works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app 
Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit 
and you're done.

  On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:


  I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The ability 
to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you 
to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jessica Dail
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
   
  I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me 
to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let 
you lock  the position of the buttons.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error 
with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when 
typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is 
not part of a web page or app.
 
HtH,
Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  Dan, I have had the same experience.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:

Hi,
 
I have been using the braille keyboard.  Now I am finding that it 
doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields.
 
It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field 
at all.
 
Is there a way to make it work?
 
thanks.
 
Dan Beaver
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Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard

[Flor Lynch]

Oh, that's the 'wonderful' Power 123 switch and lock. Unfortunately my 
'classic' Focus40 Blue is too old for that, but it feels so groovy 
reading on it at times. However, I have a Focus14 (which I use with 
iPhone) to which I was able to apply the Power 123 firmware update. I 
got the 14 before the update became available, but it was still within 
the range for the update.


- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Sepulveda" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard


The following comes from the Focus 40 Blue User Guide:
Locking the Perkins-style Keyboard
When using your Focus Blue in front of your computer’s QWERTY
keyboard, you can lock the Perkins-style keys on the top of the
display to prevent accidentally pressing them and entering unwanted
text or commands.
To lock the Focus Blue keyboard, press the Power button to display the
status information and then simultaneously press a Cursor Router and
the left Mode button. To indicate that the keyboard is locked, DOTS
2-3-4-6-7-8 and DOTS 1-3-5-6-7-8 will be displayed in two cells toward
the right end of the display, just before the connection status. Press
any other control to return to normal operation. Once locked, pressing
DOTS 1 through 8 or the SPACEBAR will no longer send keystrokes
through to the computer.
To unlock the keyboard so you can once again enter text or perform
commands from the Focus Blue, press the Power button to display the
status information and then simultaneously press a Cursor Router and
the right Mode button. Press any other control to return to normal
operation and you can once again enter text using the Focus Blue
keyboard.


Thanks,
Ari

On 11/5/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:

How דdo you access that?

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2014, at 07:38, Gmail  wrote:

I know that there's a keyboard lock mode on the Focus Braille 
displays.

Maybe you accidentally locked your keyboard.


Thanks,
Ari



On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

What were you doing (or trying to do) when the keyboard stopped 
working?
have you been able to try out any other BT keyboard with your iPhone? 
Try
out the focus Blue with any other device? there will also be a 
Diagnostics
Mode, which your Users' Guide you would've got with the Focus will 
tell
you about (in one of the appendices, I think), that'll tell you how 
to
test the keys and buttons on the display with the displayed 
disconnected.

.

- Original Message - From: "Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard


Yes.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2014, at 21:01, Kimber Gardner 
wrote:

Is the display working otherwise?

On 11/4/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  
wrote:

Hi everyone,
A couple of days ago the keyboard on my Focus 40 Blue Braille 
display

stopped working with my iPhone (and my Mac). I really need it for
university
to take notes. I've only had it for about a week and a half. My 
dealer
hasn't gotten back to me about this yet. First of all, how do I get 
the
display writing again? Second of all, how might I have gotten into 
this

mess? Third of all, how do I prevent it from happening again?

I really need your advice about this. I'd be very appreciative of 
any

help I
could get. Thanks,,



Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: two ios 8.1 bugs?

[Dan Beaver]

Hi,

do you see this no matter what method you use to make a call  or is it only 
when you tell Siri to dial a number.  I see this everytime I tell Siri to 
dial a person or number.  However, if I open the phone app and double tap a 
contact or recent call the keyboard is always there.

If using the Siri method I too hear no tones and VO speaks nothing to do 
with the screen at that point.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

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Hi guys:
When I make a phone call on my 5S, and have to press a number to access a 
menu, none of the numbers on the keyboard will speak with VO.
Second issue is the iTunes password keyboard letters will not speak when I 
try and make a purchase from the phone. Can you duplicate these issues? They 
worked fine in v 7.02.

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Re: iPhone 6 and Wi-Fi Issues

[John Diakogeorgiou]

The problem I reported seems to have been caused by a faulty router.
It was replaced yesterday and my problem seems to have gone away.

On 11/2/14, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
> Mine is doing the same on a 4S.  It's a bit annoying because you don't
> always notice straight away, then you want to ensure it goes in, and I'd
> love it to stay put.
>
> Again, I am unsure of the cause.
>
> Carol P
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 6 and Wi-Fi Issues
>
>
> I've noticed a few times that the wifi goes disconnects for a few
> minutes then reconnects. I am not sure though if this is caused by the
> router or the phone.
>
> On 11/2/14, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My girlfriend and I upgraded our 5S's to iPhone 6's today.  All was well
>> for
>> a while, then we both ran into wi-fi connection issues.  I tweaked some
>> router settings and it seemed to solve the problem for a short while and
>> then the problems came back. Needless to say, neither one of us are happy
>> campers, and I've gathered from reading articles in various blogs and an
>> Apple Communities forum that others are having issues with wi-fi as well.
>> Have any of you with iPhone 6's run into trouble with wi-fi, and if so,
>> how
>> did you solve it? As I've said, I set the router's channel setting from
>> auto
>> to channel 1, then back again, reset network settings, rebooted my phone
>> and
>> then went into settings>privacy>location services>system services and
>> turned
>> off wi-fi networking.  No joy. I'm tempted to raise hell with both Apple
>> and
>> AT&T, but before I do, I wanted to see what you guys have run across.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom
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Voice Dream looking for beta testers for a new app

[Luís Melo]

   
  Hi,
I would like to share the following tweet:
 *Voice Dream* ‏@*VoiceDreamApp* 
 Looking for beta testers for a new app: a text editor with voice feedback. 
English only for now. Email me at winston@voicedream.

Melo,
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Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?

[Alex Hall]

I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and 
passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to 
switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that 
works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app 
Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit 
and you're done.
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
> 
> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank.  The ability 
> to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you 
> to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
>  
> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me 
> to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not 
> let you lock  the position of the buttons.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran  > wrote:
> 
>> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not 
>> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for 
>> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the 
>> fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, 
>> but this text is not part of a web page or app.
>>  
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan, I have had the same experience.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
  
 I have been using the braille keyboard.  Now I am finding that it doesn't 
 seem to work in password or protected fields.
  
 It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at 
 all.
  
 Is there a way to make it work?
  
 thanks.
  
 Dan Beaver
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Re: App for telling inside temperatures

[RobH.]

The alternative is if a BT thermometer device exists with an app for the iOs 
or other system.
Sort of gismo to come out of HongKong or Singapore.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: App for telling inside temperatures


Does the iPhone have an internal thermometer? That’s the only way that 
something like this would work.

Andy

From: Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 4:28 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: App for telling inside temperatures
Does anyone know of any apps for the IPhone and IOS8.1 that would tell you 
the inside or indoor temperature?

Didn’t know if anyone had made one or not as have searched the apps store 
and hadn’t found anything.

So figured would check.

Thanks.







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Re: Aftershokz Bluez 2 suddenly stopped working

[Alex Hall]

I find that turning the headset off, charging it overnight, then turning it 
back on usually fixes this.
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Moquet Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I have the same problem, I tried to reset but it still don't work. :(
> 
> Le mardi 15 juillet 2014 05:02:47 UTC+2, Kawal Gucukoglu a écrit :
> If you have the manual it may tell you how to reset.
> 
> The manual seems difficult to locate.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 15 Jul 2014, at 03:13 am, Alex Hall > 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I've used my Bluez 2 for months with no problems. Tonight, the headset 
>> suddenly got really broken up, as though I were moving out of range, though 
>> my phone was in my pocket as usual. I turned the Bluez off and back on, and 
>> it wouldn't pair with my phone. I tried pairing it from Settings, but it 
>> immediately said it couldn't. I told it to forget the Bluez and then tried 
>> pairing again, but that failed too. It is as though my Bluez suddenly 
>> stopped being recognized. I'd rather not do a network settings reset, so is 
>> there any kind of reset I can perform on the Bluez itself? If not, would a 
>> network settings reset actually do any good, or is the headset broken in 
>> some way? Any help would be great; I don't find the Bluez overly 
>> comfortable, but I still use it most every day and would be quite annoyed if 
>> it turns out to be a hardware problem. Thanks.
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>> Alex Hall
>> meh...@icloud.com 
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Re: 5, 5C, or 5S, and which Carrier?

[Feliciano G]

Go with the latest model you can afford. In this case the 5S will be more 
future proof compared to the 5 and 5C. I have the 5 my self and can tell a 
difference on performance compared to the 5S. 

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> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:05 AM, RobH.  wrote:
> 
> 5S is bound to be recommended fcor the faster processor at least, a key 
> thing for KNFB reader to be efficient.  Don't know about camera, though 
> suspect 5S would be higher, and thus, better, too.
> 
> I've just got one this week and still moving into it.
> 
> For an aside, I bought the Otterbox Defender case ahead  of getting the 5S 
> and took against it for some reason right away.  Found and just paid for the 
> Griffin Survivor for it,  which I like a great deal better.  Chunky and 
> lumpy,  but heck,  it works well anyway. I just love the way they did a 
> scoop out around the Home button so you can do the thumb print thing despite 
> button being recessed.  JMO,  RobH.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Misty Dawn Bradley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:30 AM
> Subject: 5, 5C, or 5S, and which Carrier?
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I previously had the iPhone 4S, but I don't have it any longer. I am in the 
> market for a new iPhone and carrier. I am looking at either the 5, 5C, or 
> 5S. I would consider the 6, but it is too pricy for me at this point. The 
> main thing I would like to know is if the KNFB reader app will work with the 
> Iphone 5 or 5c? Would it be better for me to get the 5S for this purpose, or 
> would a 5 or 5c work well for it? I was thinking that the 5 or 5c would be 
> cheaper, but I want to make sure that the KNFB reader would still work well 
> with those iPhone models. I heard that it is better to have a 5S or 6 and 
> that it only works well for these models, but I am not sure if this is true.
> Thank you,
> Misty
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Overcast Synking between IOS and the web player

[Daniel McGee]

Hello all, I was just wondering for those who are using Overcast as your 
podcast app of choice, if you use or have tried going between the web player 
and your IOS device are any of you finding that your podcast subscriptions 
don't synk correctly between IOS and the web player? In my case, It seems to 
sink alright when starting a podcast from the beginning with the web player and 
then picks up from where you left off on the iphone. However, after this, if 
you carry on listening from the phone and then go back to the web player, the 
web player will start the podcast from the beginning again and after that, the 
sinking between IOS and web doesn't work. By the way, I do have an Overcast 
account.

Any ideas on why this may be happening?

Thanks all

Daniel

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Re: Audible and deleting books

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi Shirley,

When you have the focus on the title of the book, do a three finger flick left. 
Voiceover will say page 2. Do a one finger flick left to the delete button and 
do a one finger double-tap. You will then get the regular deletion screen.

Robert Carter


> On Nov 5, 2014, at 1:32 AM, Shirley  wrote:
> 
> I want to delete some books from audible and delete them off the phone. I've 
> updated to the latest version of audible. There is a delete button next to 
> each book, but when I tap it the book just starts to play. Does anyone have 
> the solution to deleting books from the phone?
> thanks
> Shirley
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Re: two ios 8.1 bugs?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Both, VO doesn't say what number I'm on, and I hear no tones.
On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> So is it you don't hear the tone the number makes or does Voiceover not even 
> say what number you are on when you touch the keypad? Have you completely 
> restarted your phone?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: two ios 8.1 bugs?
> 
> No,
> When I press a number to enter it in, VO won't speak it so I don't know what 
> number I'm pressing!
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah,
>> 
>> The NumPad numbers not making a tone happens on my 5S as well and I believe 
>> it is a universal issue at least with Voiceover. However, just because you 
>> don't hear the tone doesn't mean you can't input numbers, whatever system on 
>> the other side recognizes your number presses just fine so it's not a big 
>> deal. For me the problem usually goes away if I quit all aps and reboot the 
>> phone, then after a while some numbers will stop making the tone again and 
>> then quite often none of them do or maybe just one or 2 will and the rest 
>> won't. Anyhow, like I said, it's a minor annoyance and it's a lot better 
>> than what we had to deal with before iOS 8.1 where you would touch a number 
>> and the tone would get stuck and not stop until you pressed the same number 
>> again. Then it would mostly stop, but sometimes not even then and even if it 
>> did stop that second press of the number would be recorded by the remote 
>> system and it would really mess things up when you tried to enter an account 
>> or credit card number.
>> 
>> I have not had any problems entering my Apple Id and I would suggest you 
>> empty the app switcher, shut down your phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it 
>> back on to see if that helps.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: two ios 8.1 bugs?
>> 
>> Hi guys:
>> When I make a phone call on my 5S, and have to press a number to access a 
>> menu, none of the numbers on the keyboard will speak with VO.
>> Second issue is the iTunes password keyboard letters will not speak when I 
>> try and make a purchase from the phone. Can you duplicate these issues? They 
>> worked fine in v 7.02.
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Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard

[Arianna Sepulveda]

The following comes from the Focus 40 Blue User Guide:
Locking the Perkins-style Keyboard
When using your Focus Blue in front of your computer’s QWERTY
keyboard, you can lock the Perkins-style keys on the top of the
display to prevent accidentally pressing them and entering unwanted
text or commands.
To lock the Focus Blue keyboard, press the Power button to display the
status information and then simultaneously press a Cursor Router and
the left Mode button. To indicate that the keyboard is locked, DOTS
2-3-4-6-7-8 and DOTS 1-3-5-6-7-8 will be displayed in two cells toward
the right end of the display, just before the connection status. Press
any other control to return to normal operation. Once locked, pressing
DOTS 1 through 8 or the SPACEBAR will no longer send keystrokes
through to the computer.
To unlock the keyboard so you can once again enter text or perform
commands from the Focus Blue, press the Power button to display the
status information and then simultaneously press a Cursor Router and
the right Mode button. Press any other control to return to normal
operation and you can once again enter text using the Focus Blue
keyboard.


Thanks,
Ari

On 11/5/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
> How דdo you access that?
>
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 07:38, Gmail  wrote:
>
> I know that there's a keyboard lock mode on the Focus Braille displays.
> Maybe you accidentally locked your keyboard.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
>>
>> What were you doing (or trying to do) when the keyboard stopped working?
>> have you been able to try out any other BT keyboard with your iPhone? Try
>> out the focus Blue with any other device? there will also be a Diagnostics
>> Mode, which your Users' Guide you would've got with the Focus will tell
>> you about (in one of the appendices, I think), that'll tell you how to
>> test the keys and buttons on the display with the displayed disconnected.
>> .
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 21:01, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is the display working otherwise?
>>
>>> On 11/4/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> A couple of days ago the keyboard on my Focus 40 Blue Braille display
>>> stopped working with my iPhone (and my Mac). I really need it for
>>> university
>>> to take notes. I've only had it for about a week and a half. My dealer
>>> hasn't gotten back to me about this yet. First of all, how do I get the
>>> display writing again? Second of all, how might I have gotten into this
>>> mess? Third of all, how do I prevent it from happening again?
>>>
>>> I really need your advice about this. I'd be very appreciative of any
>>> help I
>>> could get. Thanks,,
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

The only issue with the AD function that I have found is that the AD works fine 
when you select the newest available episode to watch from the Audio Described 
category, however, if you select any of the older episodes which are available, 
still from the AD category, these are not Audio Described…

Someone has dropped a clanger there.



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On 5 Nov 2014, at 12:19, Christopher Hallsworth  wrote:

> Oh of course, as it would only be in the UK App Store. So unless you can 
> create a UK based Apple ID you can't get the app period.
> 
> On 05/11/2014 09:04, David wrote:
>> but you still won't be able to get the app.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update
>> 
>> 
>> You could providing you use a VPN connection so it looks as if you're
>> connected from the U.K. when really you're not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 22:19, Mich Verrier  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi i would like to know if people out side of the uk like people who
>>> live in canada can use this player? since i would be interested in the
>>> audio description. from Mich.
>>> - Original Message - From: "carol.pearso...@googlemail.com"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We don't ususually bother with IPlayer because, until now, this has
>>> not been
>>> the case.
>>> 
>>> If anyone finds the audio described items and takes a look as to who does
>>> the description and how good it is, we'd all like to know, I'm sure!
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "David" 
>>> To: "VIPhone Post" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:37 PM
>>> Subject: new in latest BBC iPlayer update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Todays update, has at last included an Audio described category.
>>> 
>>> Dave
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Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

How דdo you access that?

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2014, at 07:38, Gmail  wrote:

I know that there's a keyboard lock mode on the Focus Braille displays. Maybe 
you accidentally locked your keyboard.


Thanks,
Ari


> On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> What were you doing (or trying to do) when the keyboard stopped working? have 
> you been able to try out any other BT keyboard with your iPhone? Try out the 
> focus Blue with any other device? there will also be a Diagnostics Mode, 
> which your Users' Guide you would've got with the Focus will tell you about 
> (in one of the appendices, I think), that'll tell you how to test the keys 
> and buttons on the display with the displayed disconnected. .
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Urgent help with Focus 40 Blue keyboard
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 21:01, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> Is the display working otherwise?
> 
>> On 11/4/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> A couple of days ago the keyboard on my Focus 40 Blue Braille display
>> stopped working with my iPhone (and my Mac). I really need it for university
>> to take notes. I've only had it for about a week and a half. My dealer
>> hasn't gotten back to me about this yet. First of all, how do I get the
>> display writing again? Second of all, how might I have gotten into this
>> mess? Third of all, how do I prevent it from happening again?
>> 
>> I really need your advice about this. I'd be very appreciative of any help I
>> could get. Thanks,,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: App for telling inside temperatures

[Christopher Chaltain]

The iPhone doesn't have a thermometer built into it. You may be able to 
achieve something similar by using a thermometer that broadcasts the 
temperature over the network or bluetooth. I think there are such 
cooking thermometers, so maybe there's also something for room 
temperatures. Another option is using a thermostat tied into your home's 
wireless network and an accessible iPhone app. I know there are several 
options here.


On 11/05/2014 07:05 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Does the iPhone have an internal thermometer? That’s the only way that
something like this would work.
Andy
*From:* Don Risavy, Jr. 
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 4:28 AM
*To:* VIPhone 
*Subject:* App for telling inside temperatures

Does anyone know of any apps for the IPhone and IOS8.1 that would tell
you the inside or indoor temperature?

Didn’t know if anyone had made one or not as have searched the apps
store and hadn’t found anything.

So figured would check.

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Re: App for telling inside temperatures

[Andy Baracco]

Does the iPhone have an internal thermometer? That’s the only way that 
something like this would work.

Andy

From: Don Risavy, Jr. 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 4:28 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: App for telling inside temperatures
Does anyone know of any apps for the IPhone and IOS8.1 that would tell you the 
inside or indoor temperature?

Didn’t know if anyone had made one or not as have searched the apps store and 
hadn’t found anything.

So figured would check.

Thanks.

 

 

 

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Re: Scanner Apps

[Andy Baracco]

Scanner 911 and 5-0 Radio.

Andy


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanner Apps

Hi All,

I am looking for an app that will allow me to listen to local city police, 
fire department sheriff's office, ETC in Richland County, SC.  Does anyone 
know of an app that works with VO for this?


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Re: Scanner Apps

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi, I use 50-0 radio pr0 it works well with the iphone.  Andy and 
Shubert


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanner Apps

Hi All,

I am looking for an app that will allow me to listen to local city police, 
fire department sheriff's office, ETC in Richland County, SC.  Does anyone 
know of an app that works with VO for this?


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App for telling inside temperatures

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Does anyone know of any apps for the IPhone and IOS8.1 that would tell you
the inside or indoor temperature?

Didn't know if anyone had made one or not as have searched the apps store
and hadn't found anything.

So figured would check.

Thanks.

 

 

 

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RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

[Rose Combs]

I don't care a lot for the new iTunes, but I can use it for my limited needs.  
Takes longer but what else is new.  At least I can tell where I am and move on. 
 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

Well, you're certainly right, in my opinion, about Windows Media Player. I 
don't even use it. I have updated to iTunes 12 and I actually like it better 
than previous versions. It is a different interface, and I suspect there are 
some accessibility issues, at least I have heard of some, but I think what 
trips up a number of people is that it is not the way they expect it to be from 
using previous versions. The shortcut keys can get you around rather easily and 
the help file contains a very extensive list of additional shortcut keys.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: restoring iPhone to the same IOs

I'm not a big iTunes fan, but other than maybe FooBar, every media library 
application I've used as been a pretty unique experience. Winamp may have a lot 
of hot keys, but they aren't standard and try working with remote content 
through Winamp.  Windows Media Playre also has a pretty unique interface that 
takes some getting used to. If you have to jump through hoops to learn a media 
player anyway, it might as well be iTunes if you're going to use it with your 
Apple devices. I'm not trying to talk anyone into using iTunes, and I don't 
really care what multimedia player people use, but if you want an application 
to manage your media library, and you own an Apple device, you might as well 
give iTunes a try and see how it stacks up against Winamp, WMP or whatever 
accessible multimedia player you can find.

On 11/04/2014 01:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Neal,
>
> And you have to also take into consideration that iTunes somehow still 
> has a reputation for being clunky, slow and well, inaccessible and 
> very hard to use. I see so many messages on here where people say 
> things  I avoid iTunes if I can  or  I hate iTunes  or and so on. I 
> used to use Winamp and Windows Media player a bit and I am not saying 
> Winamp doesn t have good hot key navigation and so on, but iTunes has 
> been my choice for a long time of course largely due to the fact that 
> I started using iOS devices 5 years ago and I decided that to get the 
> most of my iOS device I better learn how I can get the most out of iTunes.
>
> Could iTunes be better? Of course it could and I hope in time it will 
> improve, but it is very accessible and once  you understand the basic 
> principles about syncing, the different libraries and areas such as 
> your libraries, your devices and the iTunes store it really is quite nice.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Neal Ewers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
>
> This does raise an interesting point. Sometimes we think things are 
> not accessible because they really aren t, or at least parts of them 
> are not. But sometimes, if there is a totally different interface as 
> there is in iTunes 12 and things do not look like we are used to 
> seeing, we may think they just don t work. Sometimes, parts of them 
> really don t work. The only way to know this is to actually update 
> yourself and check it out. This is what I am about to do.
>
> Thanks all for your feedback.
>
> Neal
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Matthews
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:14 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
>
> Hahahahaha you got me there!
>
> Yes not getting that apps what s new  info is on the Mac version!
>
> I posted to the list to confirm that to you! *smile* to let you know 
> that it was not a jaws problem!
>
> Ok iTunes12 is almost totally accessible!
>
> Colin
>
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 08:46, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
>
> I guess  fully accessible  can be subjective. I heard that on the Mac 
> version of iTunes it is also not possible to read the What s New 
> section of apps. Maybe I was misinformed, but while the Windows 
> version also is very accessible and in some ways I think is nicer than 
> before, it does have a few oddities or things where it is more 
> involved to do something and not being able to see what is new when 
> there is an app update is something one can work around, but it s unfortunate.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> *From:*vi

Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Oh of course, as it would only be in the UK App Store. So unless you can 
create a UK based Apple ID you can't get the app period.


On 05/11/2014 09:04, David wrote:

but you still won't be able to get the app.

Dave.
- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update


You could providing you use a VPN connection so it looks as if you're
connected from the U.K. when really you're not.




On 4 Nov 2014, at 22:19, Mich Verrier  wrote:

hi i would like to know if people out side of the uk like people who
live in canada can use this player? since i would be interested in the
audio description. from Mich.
- Original Message - From: "carol.pearso...@googlemail.com"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update


We don't ususually bother with IPlayer because, until now, this has
not been
the case.

If anyone finds the audio described items and takes a look as to who does
the description and how good it is, we'd all like to know, I'm sure!

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "David" 
To: "VIPhone Post" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:37 PM
Subject: new in latest BBC iPlayer update




Todays update, has at last included an Audio described category.

Dave

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Re: Scanner Apps

[janet wright]

did you try scanner plus?



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
-Original Message- 
From: Steve & Shannon Cook

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanner Apps

Hi All,

I am looking for an app that will allow me to listen to local city police, 
fire department sheriff's office, ETC in Richland County, SC.  Does anyone 
know of an app that works with VO for this?


Steve and Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend.
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
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Scanner Apps

[Steve & Shannon Cook]

Hi All,

I am looking for an app that will allow me to listen to local city police, fire 
department sheriff's office, ETC in Richland County, SC.  Does anyone know of 
an app that works with VO for this?

Steve and Shannon Cook
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The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
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Re: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller I.C.

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

For anyone who's wondering, the potential problems with the 6+ are in
no way what so ever related to the problems with the Samsung drives
that the author noted in the article. The Samsung drives suffered from
a firmware (E.G. purely software) issue where the firmware failed to
take into account different voltage requirements for old data, which
resulted in slow read speeds. If (and it's a very big if for me) by
mear coincidence the 6+ has the same *software* problem, Apple would
be able to fix it remotely in the form of an iOS update in the same
way that baseband firmware is sometimes updated without recalling
products.

I also doubt any industry *experts* are questioning the reliability of
TLC NAND as a whole. The technology has been around for a long time
now & its limitations have always been known by people who really
understand it. In simple terms you aren't able to write as much data
to TLC NAND as you are SLC & MLC. Additionally, performance of TLC on
its own will be lower than that of SLC (the fastest) and MLC (a middle
ground), but companies employ many different techniques to counteract
this limitation. For example, the Samsung EVO drives have a certain
amount of SLC cache which is used to hold data when the drive is being
written to for a sustained amount of time. When things carm down or
when the cache is filled, data is transparently moved from the SLC to
the TLC.

A bit of a rant I know, but as someone who sells hard drives I felt
that I had to.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/5/14, RobH.  wrote:
> My guess is that you are much lighter users of the devices, than those
> bringing out the problem.
> We can all live with potential weaknesses, while we don't over-stress them.
>
> Rh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Erichsen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise
> Questions about Controller I.C.
>
>
> My 128gb iPhone6 works fine here as well.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rose Combs
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 10:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise
> Questions about Controller I.C.
>
> My iPhone 6 128 is working well, no turning on and off problems, no
> crashes.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise
> Questions about Controller I.C.
>
> Hi again,
>
> Maybe Tim Cook's announcement that he is gay means Apple is entering a new
> era of honesty and admitting mistakes and they'll be transparent regarding
> the iPhone 6 Plus 128 Gb crashing issue *smile*.
> Below is a link to an article about a monument for Steve Jobbs in St.
> Petersburg, Russia, which after Tim Cook's announcement was taken down:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/11/03/russian-monument-to-steve-jobs-taken-down-after-apple-ceo-cook-says-he-is-gay/
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions
> about Controller I.C.
>
> See link to article at end of text.
>
> Mark
>
> Huge Potential Recall
> Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller IC
>
> November 2014
> Functional defects in some of Apple's latest smartphones have been
> observed.
>
> According to overseas IT news sites on Nov. 2, problems have been reported
> related to data storage in the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+.
>
> Business Insider reported on Oct. 24 that a number of 128GB iPhone 6+ users
> have reported functional defects via Twitter. When owners switch between
> apps or check notifications, the phone is said to inexplicably crash or
> enter a reboot loop.
>
> Apple Insider also reported on Oct. 23 that some owners have replaced their
> iPhone 6+ four times. It was also pointed out that Apple's recent iOS 8.1
> update did not fix these defects.
>
> Some in the industry point out that considering that technical defects
> mainly occur in the 128GB version of the iPhone 6 Plus, there might be a
> problem in the controller IC of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND flash.
>
> TLC flash is a type of solid-state NAND flash memory that stores three bits
> of data per flash media cell. It can store two to three times as much data
> as a single-level cell (SLC) that stores one bit of data and a multi-level
> cell (MLC) solid-state flash memory that stores two bits of data. Moreover,
> TLC flash is more affordable. However, TLC is slower than SLC or MLC in
> reading and writing data.
>
> To reduce cost, Apple reporte

Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update

[David]

but you still won't be able to get the app.

Dave.
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To: 
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Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update


You could providing you use a VPN connection so it looks as if you're 
connected from the U.K. when really you're not.





On 4 Nov 2014, at 22:19, Mich Verrier  wrote:

hi i would like to know if people out side of the uk like people who live 
in canada can use this player? since i would be interested in the audio 
description. from Mich.
- Original Message - From: "carol.pearso...@googlemail.com" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update


We don't ususually bother with IPlayer because, until now, this has not 
been

the case.

If anyone finds the audio described items and takes a look as to who does
the description and how good it is, we'd all like to know, I'm sure!

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "David" 
To: "VIPhone Post" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:37 PM
Subject: new in latest BBC iPlayer update




Todays update, has at last included an Audio described category.

Dave

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Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update

[christopher hallsworth]

You could providing you use a VPN connection so it looks as if you're connected 
from the U.K. when really you're not.



> On 4 Nov 2014, at 22:19, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> hi i would like to know if people out side of the uk like people who live in 
> canada can use this player? since i would be interested in the audio 
> description. from Mich.
> - Original Message - From: "carol.pearso...@googlemail.com" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: new in latest BBC iPlayer update
> 
> 
> We don't ususually bother with IPlayer because, until now, this has not been
> the case.
> 
> If anyone finds the audio described items and takes a look as to who does
> the description and how good it is, we'd all like to know, I'm sure!
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message - From: "David" 
> To: "VIPhone Post" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:37 PM
> Subject: new in latest BBC iPlayer update
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Todays update, has at last included an Audio described category.
> 
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Re: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller I.C.

[RobH.]

If that is the issue, then at least it's sussed.  I was fascinated more by 
the techy discussion of memory types, not heard arguments like that since 
Uni.  And I still remember De Morgan's theorum.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:29 PM
Subject: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions 
about Controller I.C.


See link to article at end of text.

Mark

Huge Potential Recall
Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller IC

November 2014
Functional defects in some of Apple's latest smartphones have been observed.

According to overseas IT news sites on Nov. 2, problems have been reported
related to data storage in the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+.

Business Insider reported on Oct. 24 that a number of 128GB iPhone 6+ users
have reported functional defects via Twitter. When owners switch between
apps or check notifications, the phone is said to inexplicably crash or
enter a reboot loop.

Apple Insider also reported on Oct. 23 that some owners have replaced their
iPhone 6+ four times. It was also pointed out that Apple's recent iOS 8.1
update did not fix these defects.

Some in the industry point out that considering that technical defects
mainly occur in the 128GB version of the iPhone 6 Plus, there might be a
problem in the controller IC of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND flash.

TLC flash is a type of solid-state NAND flash memory that stores three bits
of data per flash media cell. It can store two to three times as much data
as a single-level cell (SLC) that stores one bit of data and a multi-level
cell (MLC) solid-state flash memory that stores two bits of data. Moreover,
TLC flash is more affordable. However, TLC is slower than SLC or MLC in
reading and writing data.

To reduce cost, Apple reportedly used TLC NAND flash in the 128GB version of
the iPhone 6+ and some other models. Previously, TLC NAND was used in some
iPads, whereas more expensive but more stable MLC NAND was used in most of
the iPhone series.

As numerous reports of low read performance of the Samsung SSD 840 and 840
EVO using TLC NAND flash have surfaced on the Internet, a problem in the
controller IC is considered to be the more likely cause of the defects. As
the controversy over the SSD 840 and 840 EVO grew, Samsung embarked on
firmware upgrades. Some in the industry think that if TLC flash is indeed
the cause of the defects, Apple might recall all of the products that have
been sold so far.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/7084/huge-potential-recall-technical-
defects-iphone-6-raise-questions-about-controller-ic



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Re: 5, 5C, or 5S, and which Carrier?

[RobH.]

5S is bound to be recommended fcor the faster processor at least, a key 
thing for KNFB reader to be efficient.  Don't know about camera, though 
suspect 5S would be higher, and thus, better, too.

I've just got one this week and still moving into it.

For an aside, I bought the Otterbox Defender case ahead  of getting the 5S 
and took against it for some reason right away.  Found and just paid for the 
Griffin Survivor for it,  which I like a great deal better.  Chunky and 
lumpy,  but heck,  it works well anyway. I just love the way they did a 
scoop out around the Home button so you can do the thumb print thing despite 
button being recessed.  JMO,  RobH.

- Original Message - 
From: "Misty Dawn Bradley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:30 AM
Subject: 5, 5C, or 5S, and which Carrier?


Hi all,
I previously had the iPhone 4S, but I don't have it any longer. I am in the 
market for a new iPhone and carrier. I am looking at either the 5, 5C, or 
5S. I would consider the 6, but it is too pricy for me at this point. The 
main thing I would like to know is if the KNFB reader app will work with the 
Iphone 5 or 5c? Would it be better for me to get the 5S for this purpose, or 
would a 5 or 5c work well for it? I was thinking that the 5 or 5c would be 
cheaper, but I want to make sure that the KNFB reader would still work well 
with those iPhone models. I heard that it is better to have a 5S or 6 and 
that it only works well for these models, but I am not sure if this is true.
Thank you,
Misty

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Re: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller I.C.

[RobH.]

My guess is that you are much lighter users of the devices, than those 
bringing out the problem.
We can all live with potential weaknesses, while we don't over-stress them.

Rh.
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From: "Scott Erichsen" 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise 
Questions about Controller I.C.


My 128gb iPhone6 works fine here as well.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise 
Questions about Controller I.C.

My iPhone 6 128 is working well, no turning on and off problems, no crashes.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise 
Questions about Controller I.C.

Hi again,

Maybe Tim Cook's announcement that he is gay means Apple is entering a new 
era of honesty and admitting mistakes and they'll be transparent regarding 
the iPhone 6 Plus 128 Gb crashing issue *smile*.
Below is a link to an article about a monument for Steve Jobbs in St. 
Petersburg, Russia, which after Tim Cook's announcement was taken down:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/11/03/russian-monument-to-steve-jobs-taken-down-after-apple-ceo-cook-says-he-is-gay/

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions 
about Controller I.C.

See link to article at end of text.

Mark

Huge Potential Recall
Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller IC

November 2014
Functional defects in some of Apple's latest smartphones have been observed.

According to overseas IT news sites on Nov. 2, problems have been reported
related to data storage in the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+.

Business Insider reported on Oct. 24 that a number of 128GB iPhone 6+ users
have reported functional defects via Twitter. When owners switch between
apps or check notifications, the phone is said to inexplicably crash or
enter a reboot loop.

Apple Insider also reported on Oct. 23 that some owners have replaced their
iPhone 6+ four times. It was also pointed out that Apple's recent iOS 8.1
update did not fix these defects.

Some in the industry point out that considering that technical defects
mainly occur in the 128GB version of the iPhone 6 Plus, there might be a
problem in the controller IC of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND flash.

TLC flash is a type of solid-state NAND flash memory that stores three bits
of data per flash media cell. It can store two to three times as much data
as a single-level cell (SLC) that stores one bit of data and a multi-level
cell (MLC) solid-state flash memory that stores two bits of data. Moreover,
TLC flash is more affordable. However, TLC is slower than SLC or MLC in
reading and writing data.

To reduce cost, Apple reportedly used TLC NAND flash in the 128GB version of
the iPhone 6+ and some other models. Previously, TLC NAND was used in some
iPads, whereas more expensive but more stable MLC NAND was used in most of
the iPhone series.

As numerous reports of low read performance of the Samsung SSD 840 and 840
EVO using TLC NAND flash have surfaced on the Internet, a problem in the
controller IC is considered to be the more likely cause of the defects. As
the controversy over the SSD 840 and 840 EVO grew, Samsung embarked on
firmware upgrades. Some in the industry think that if TLC flash is indeed
the cause of the defects, Apple might recall all of the products that have
been sold so far.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/7084/huge-potential-recall-technical-
defects-iphone-6-raise-questions-about-controller-ic



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