RE: Frustrations with Dative Mail App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Christopher,

I mostly agree although I think if Outlook fixed the text review issue for 
Voiceover users it might be my mail app of choice as I think it's more 
feature-rich than the native mail app. But that's just my opinion, the native 
mail app definitely has been working great for me most of the time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Frustrations with Dative Mail App

I've always thought the native mail app on the iPhone was outstanding. 
I'm surprised how powerful and intuitive it is. I've looked for a better mail 
app on both IOS and Android, and I've yet to find one.

I've always assumed the multiple threads with the same subject line had to do 
with the mailing list software or how people were replying to list messages. I 
didn't figure it was an issue with the native mail client.

I've never had trouble getting back to the in box after visiting another 
folder. I just keep double tapping the back button (which has different labels, 
such as the name of the folder you're in or mail boxes) until I get back to my 
list of mail boxes and then I can double tap the in box.

On 12/01/16 20:09, Melissa Tucker wrote:
> the native mail app has never been great.  Since I've been using an ios 
> device there has always been some type of problex.  don't have answers but I 
> don't think the mail app will totally be reght.
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
> The native mail app on my iPhone 6 is driving me nuts; in fact, IOS 9.2 on my 
> iPhone 6 just seems to get flakier and squirrelier as time goes by, with 
> general instability and/or focus loss issues et cetera, but I digress. Here's 
> what's going on with Mail.
> 1.  The logg-standing focus issue when exiting from mail threads is still 
> around, which annoys me no end.
> 2.  I continually see multiple mail threads with the same subject lines 
> instead of one consolidated mail thread containing the same subject line. 
> Does that make any sense?
> 3.  If I move from my inbox to another folder, say, a folder containing saved 
> messages, then attempt to return to my inbox, the inbox is gone. Gone! I 
> can't get it back until I kill the mail app in the app switcher and restart 
> Mail.  What the heck's going on here?  Btw, a colleague of mine at work is 
> experiencing the same issue.  I thought that maybe VoiceOver just isn't 
> letting me see the inbox, so I turned VO off and back on again. No dice.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tom
>

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Apple Watch won't speak

[alex stone]

My watch stopped talking, so I did all the troubleshooting steps I could think 
of. Nothing worked so I decided to unpaid it. It seemed to unpaid, but now 
won't pair. My sighted wife tells me that it only shows the time but won't do 
anything else. Any help please



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Re: Cloud storage with two phones

[Candy Lowe]

Go to settings.  Then go to messages.  Then go to send and receive.  There you 
will see all of the telephone numbers and e-mail addresses that you are 
receiving text messages from.  Unselect the telephone that belongs to your 
niece. This should solve the problem.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing it's Settings -> Messages -> Text Message Forwarding.
> 
>> On 12/01/16 18:05, Brian Albriton wrote:
>> There is a setting in messaging I turned on that stopped the imessages
>> going to my wife from coming to me. We do have same apple ID. For the
>> life of me however, I'm not finding or remembering what the setting
>> was. In any case, once turned on it made our lives easier.
>>> On 1/11/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> That is why using the same Apple Id for iMessage and Facetime is definitely
>>> not a good idea. You should sign out of iMessage and Facetime on the phone
>>> you lent to your niece or ask her to do so and then she can sign in with her
>>> own Apple Id.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not sure, by the way, if family sharing means you are sharing iCloud
>>> storage, I am pretty sure iCloud storage is tied to your Apple Id so the
>>> only way to share said storage would be if the same Apple Id was used to
>>> sign into iCloud, but then again I think there are probably all sorts of
>>> drawbacks with this and given how inexpensive it is to buy a bit of extra
>>> storage from Apple it’s probably better to do that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Bill Gallik
>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Cloud storage with two phones
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carl,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can indeed share an iCloud account.  Simply set up family sharing and
>>> have her iPhone access your iCloud account via the e-mail address you are
>>> using and the password.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I personally have a quite different problem in that I loaned an iPhone 5 to
>>> my niece and she and I are now receiving each others’ iMessages.  I find the
>>> problem is I can’t tell if a message is intended for my reading or not so I
>>> open messages between my niece and her friends that I have no business
>>> opening!
>>> 
>>> * * * * * * * * *
>>> Bill Gallik
>>> wfgal...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Karl Smith >>  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My wife and I each have 6S phones with 128 GB storage. I have an iCloud
>>> account with 200 GB of storage. At this point there is still 187 GB storage
>>> left. My wife’s phone shows only 5GB storage available and she keeps getting
>>> nasty messages about not enough storage to back up a bunch of videos taken
>>> the other day. Can’t we share the iCloud account I have or do I need to buy
>>> another one for her? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Karl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> __
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>>> 
>>> Fax: 866-824-7885
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>>> 
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>>> 
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How to sync apps from the latest ITunes to my IPhone 6

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

I can't seem to either remember or figure out how to sync my apps that had
saved and or backed up from the latest version of ITunes to my IPhone 6 as
can see the apps on the screen within ITunes; but, can't seem to get them to
sync or download and install them to my phone.

So any help and or assistance will greatly be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

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Can no longer like or dislike videos with official YouTube app

[Lynn Schneider]

I am wondering if anyone else is having trouble liking and disliking videos 
with the latest official YouTube app. Actually, I am having trouble with this 
both on the iPhone app as well as the AppleTV. I did leave feedback on the app 
in the Feedback section, but have had no response yet and the latest update did 
not fix the problem with the iPhone app. I'm hoping someone can give me a 
workaround, as I really do like giving recognition where it is do. Thanks in 
advance for any assistance you can provide.

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RE: Scotia bank in Canada

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mike,

I sent a message to my contact this morning and below is the reply I received 
this afternoon:

Hello Sieghard,

Happy New Year to you as well. Thank you for the reminder message and apologies 
for the delay getting back to you.

I spoke with the ScotiaOnline Mobile team and they plan to fix the issue in the 
next release. The next release is scheduled for March 2016. 
In the interim, if you have access to a desktop computer with a screenreader, 
you should be able to view your transactions via our ScotiaOnline web 
application. 
I will definitely share the fact that other customers who use VoiceOver on the 
iPhone are also impacted.

Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention and helping us to improve 
accessibility for our customers with disabilities. 
If you have any other feedback please feel free to reach out. Our accessibility 
feedback email is accessibil...@scotiabank.com .

Best regards,
Monica

Monica Ackermann, P.Eng. MA | Senior Manager
 
Scotiabank | Enabling Solutions and Support Management 
T.  416.933.1404  M: 416.500.1605 
monica.ackerm...@scotiabank.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Cormier
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada

Actually I just activated the touch ID login about a month ago and yes it is 
really really nice It makes it so easy to login Once they fix the little issues 
in the app It will be back to normal and the really good App to use Sent from 
my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes, let them know since the more people who do so the better the chances it 
> will get fixed. Scotia Bank has an official accessibility statement so I'm 
> sure it will get done hopefully sooner rather than later.
> 
> I really liked it when Scotia Bank introduced Touch Id support. Since it's my 
> main bank I use a rather long and complicated password so being able to sign 
> in super fast with Touch Id definitely makes me want to use the app more 
> although if I am at home or in my office I still do all transactions like 
> bill payments, transfers, paying my taxes for the store etc. via the website 
> because I like to print the confirmation pages to my PDF printer and save 
> them and that is still easier and more efficient on the PC. But if I have to 
> do something while I'm away it's certainly possible and accessible.
> 
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Cormier
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada
> 
> Hi Sieghard
> 
> That is exactly the same problem I am having, I will be sure to call Scotia 
> Bank and advise them of this.
> Like you said the app is very accessible, and only this bug makes it 
> very frustrating
> 
> Thanks for this information and if you find out anything that they 
> will fix it let us know thank you very much
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 2:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mike and Victor,
>> 
>> I am also a Scotia Bank customer and I have quite a few different accounts 
>> with them both for my business and my personal account, mortgage, tax free 
>> savings account, a personal line of credit and iTrade investment account.
>> 
>> I also can read my balances just fine, where the second last update messed 
>> things up is in that if I double tap on an account I can no longer get the 
>> information as to what the transactions are. Voiceover reads the date and 
>> the amount of the deposit or withdrawel, but where it used to read what type 
>> of transaction it was it now no longer gives me that information.
>> 
>> I contacted their support a few months ago because I wanted them to fix the 
>> few unlabeled buttons in the app and I received a very courteous and 
>> personalized reply from a lady who told me that she would be working with me 
>> to pass on my feedback to their developers and accessibility people. When 
>> this last thing happened I contacted her again (the was on December 9) and 
>> as you can see from the reply I received, I was supposed to be contacted 
>> again, but I have not yet heard anything and will email her again after I 
>> finish this message. Monica's email is at the bottom of the message and I 
>> will mention in my message that I have shared it with a few other users of 
>> the app and that she may hear from them. Maybe if a few more people send in 
>> their feedback they'll fix this sooner. The app is wonderfully accessible 
>> with the exception of a few unlabeled buttons and now the fact that it 
>> doesn't read me the transaction descriptions, but I'm sure they'll fix this 
>> sooner or later. Here now the 

Re: Frustrations with Dative Mail App

[Christopher Chaltain]

I've always thought the native mail app on the iPhone was outstanding. 
I'm surprised how powerful and intuitive it is. I've looked for a better 
mail app on both IOS and Android, and I've yet to find one.


I've always assumed the multiple threads with the same subject line had 
to do with the mailing list software or how people were replying to list 
messages. I didn't figure it was an issue with the native mail client.


I've never had trouble getting back to the in box after visiting another 
folder. I just keep double tapping the back button (which has different 
labels, such as the name of the folder you're in or mail boxes) until I 
get back to my list of mail boxes and then I can double tap the in box.


On 12/01/16 20:09, Melissa Tucker wrote:

the native mail app has never been great.  Since I've been using an ios device 
there has always been some type of problex.  don't have answers but I don't 
think the mail app will totally be reght.


On Jan 12, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:



Hi folks,
The native mail app on my iPhone 6 is driving me nuts; in fact, IOS 9.2 on my 
iPhone 6 just seems to get flakier and squirrelier as time goes by, with 
general instability and/or focus loss issues et cetera, but I digress. Here's 
what's going on with Mail.
1.  The logg-standing focus issue when exiting from mail threads is still 
around, which annoys me no end.
2.  I continually see multiple mail threads with the same subject lines instead 
of one consolidated mail thread containing the same subject line. Does that 
make any sense?
3.  If I move from my inbox to another folder, say, a folder containing saved 
messages, then attempt to return to my inbox, the inbox is gone. Gone! I can't 
get it back until I kill the mail app in the app switcher and restart Mail.  
What the heck's going on here?  Btw, a colleague of mine at work is 
experiencing the same issue.  I thought that maybe VoiceOver just isn't letting 
me see the inbox, so I turned VO off and back on again. No dice.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Tom



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RE: Frustrations with Dative Mail App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Apart from the more or less brief locking up after replying to a message in a 
thread I have none of these issues with the native mail app. I don't necessary 
know what to recommend apart from doing a full restore and to set up as a new 
phone, but on my 5S which I am currently using again 9.2 is stabil and 
responsive and when I had my 6S it was stabil and fast. My wife is experiencing 
a bit of a battery issue for the last while, but that didn't start with iOS 9.2 
and I assume it's because of some app she downloaded.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:56 PM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: Frustrations with Dative Mail App



Hi folks,
The native mail app on my iPhone 6 is driving me nuts; in fact, IOS 9.2 on my 
iPhone 6 just seems to get flakier and squirrelier as time goes by, with 
general instability and/or focus loss issues et cetera, but I digress. Here's 
what's going on with Mail.  
1.  The logg-standing focus issue when exiting from mail threads is still 
around, which annoys me no end.
2.  I continually see multiple mail threads with the same subject lines instead 
of one consolidated mail thread containing the same subject line. Does that 
make any sense?
3.  If I move from my inbox to another folder, say, a folder containing saved 
messages, then attempt to return to my inbox, the inbox is gone. Gone! I can't 
get it back until I kill the mail app in the app switcher and restart Mail.  
What the heck's going on here?  Btw, a colleague of mine at work is 
experiencing the same issue.  I thought that maybe VoiceOver just isn't letting 
me see the inbox, so I turned VO off and back on again. No dice.  

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

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Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Deb Lewis]

We just bought the smart Instant Pot and I have a few observations.
I have never used a pressure cooker. The recipes in the app are too
fancy and time consuming for the ost part. But they do give you an
idea of how long it takes to cook things which is helpful.
There are settings for lots of foods, but that's a little confusing
too. Poultry, for example, could be a few chicken brasts, a whole
chicken, a stuffed fowl of some kind etc. Cooking requirements are all
really different for those so I'm not sure why they have these vague
settings.
But everything we've made has been taty and it's a very accessible
product. Just a little confusing for the uninitiated because I think
the presets are a little meaningless unless I'm missing something.


On 1/4/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Penny,
> I have kind of gotten away from so many grains, so I probably won't be doing
> the steel cut oats so I won't be able to give you a first-hand report. There
> is an extremely active Facebook group of instant pot users, some of whom
> have self identified as blind folks. If you are on Facebook, as I know you
> are, and you join that group, I bet you could put in a post about steel cut
> oats and see what comes back.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Mary. My daughter and son-in-law cook perfect steel-cut oats
>> in their Japanese rice cooker. So, I bought a rice cooker several
>> years ago -- but a different kind, since I couldn't access the touch
>> cooking controls on their cooker with a dynamic display. Their rice
>> cooker has "fuzzy logic." Mine does not., and my oatmeal does not turn
>> out creamy and delicious like theirs!
>>
>> So, I am curious as to how well the steel cut oats might turn out in
>> the InstantPot.
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>> Penny
>>
>>> On 1/4/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Hi Penny, there is a multi grain setting. And there are recipes for oats.
>>> I
>>> haven't looked to see what setting they use. There's also a rice setting.
>>> So
>>> the short answer is, I am sure it is possible to cook porridge, but you
>>> do
>>> have to be careful about foaming.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Penny Reeder 
 wrote:

 Hi Mary, Is there a porridge setting, do you know?
 Thanks.
 Penny

> On 1/4/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> The rice program is the only one which according to the manual, does
> not
> allow for any adjustment. You just put your rice and your liquid in,
> hit
> the
> button and go away. And then of course you come back and don't let it
> sit
> on
> warm too long.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Rick Alfaro 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mary, thanks for the followup. I know that on the standard model,
>> once
>> you
>> choose a preset like rice, you have several seconds to make any
>> adjustments before it will start on its own. By adjustments, I mean
>> plus
>> or minus the default time for the preset. Hopefully, the app will do
>> the
>> same, giving you time to make any changes. For the most part, since
>> I've
>> been pressure cookingfor some time now, I usually use the manual
>> setting
>> and don't use the presets all that much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 10:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone
>> app
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>> I thought I would get back to you on the instant pot smart. The panel
>> is
>> like yours. And the app seems very nice indeed. The recipes in it are
>> very
>> few, although you can download scripts or write your own. There is
>> documentation for how to do that in a PDF file which I have not
>> looked
>> at
>> yet. Peering is a snap. The dashboard, where you control the cooker,
>> is
>> totally accessible. The only thing I don't know, and that is because
>> I
>> simply haven't done it yet, is whether you can manipulate the plus
>> and
>> minus and adjust buttons using the app. And if you can, can you tell
>> what
>> the settings are when you're done. I suspect it will work, since the
>> other
>> settings work. You can see the temperature in the device, what is the
>> pressure, how much time is left. And of course you can activate the
>> preprograms things like rice etc. What gives me hope is that when you
>> hit
>> a button, such as rice, it doesn't 

Re: no voice over on watch

[Rhonda Hornbacher]

Thanks John. Actually the watch was turned off. Smile. No wonder I had no Voice 
Over. Smile.

All is working again. Thanks for your assistance.

Have a super day,
Rhonda
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 6:55 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   Can you activate the iPhone Watch app. If so, double-check to see VoiceOver 
> is turned on with the watch. You might have the setup screen on the watch 
> itself again.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Rhonda Hornbacher  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have been trying to update my Apple Watch this afternoon. I finally have 
>> the software update but now I do not have voice over. I do not even know if 
>> the Watch is on.
>> 
>> I have triple clicked the digital crown and no voice over.
>> 
>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Frustrated,
>> Rhonda
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Re: AIPoly VS CamFind

[Richard Turner]

Would you share the email address you have for the AIPoly team?
Also, the problem with submitting reviews is an Apple issue, which I have 
reported a couple times to the accessibility team at Apple. I'd suggest 
everyone else having issues submitting reviews do the same. 
accessibil...@apple.com


Richard


> On Jan 12, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Keith B.  wrote:
> 
> I have just a couple of thoughts about Aipoly. I really believe they are on 
> to something, so I will continue to try to work with them. Most of us can't 
> remember how terrible OCR was in its beginning days - how even with the best 
> of programs we were lucky to get 85% recognition. And look where OCR for the 
> blind is now because we saw the potential, worked with manufacturers, and 
> refused to give up a dream. That is my personal thinking about Aipoly.
> 
> Now for my frustration. I tried to submit a review on my iPhone 6. I could 
> rate the program and title the review, but when I got to the writing section 
> of the review, it completely kicked me out. I tried this on multiple 
> occasions. I emailed the Aipoly Team but have yet to hear back, and this was 
> the first day it came out.
> 
> If Aipoly truly wants to develop the potential of this app, there has to be 
> an acceptable way for us to give feedback. I don't do reviews in iTunes 
> generally, and, when I tried, I got nowhere. So, if anyone from Aipoly is 
> monitoring this list, some of us believe in you, but you have to find a 
> convenient way for us to communicate with you. We really are the key to your 
> success.
> 
>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 4:33:55 AM UTC-6, sandy wrote:
>> Richard, 
>> No I haven't discovered how to give feedback other than with the "pen" or 
>> was it pencil? I shall try playing with that feature. 
>> Good luck, Sandy 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> > On 11 Jan 2016, at 16:17, Richard Turner  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Did you find a way to submit feedback? 
>> > I didn't. 
>> > Of course, I did not spend a lot of time trying. 
>> > Thanks, 
>> > Richard 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 1:55 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> >>  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> hi Richard, 
>> >> After my less than stellar experience with a aiPoly vision, together with 
>> >> my usual success with CamFind, I got my partner to try out a aiPoly for 
>> >> me, lest it was user error on my part, and we discovered that, for him, 
>> >> while it works, it is incredibly inaccurate. however, I will not delete 
>> >> it because I am sure that real-time video object identification is the 
>> >> way to go. I think, with time, this will improve and our findings and 
>> >> addings to the library is one way for it to do so. for me, the time lag 
>> >> is crucial! probably, we should all submit our experiences and findings 
>> >> with the app in the hopes that they will improve it. 
>> >> 
>> >> thoughts, Sandy 
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone 
>> >> 
>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 00:18, Richard Turner  wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I compared AIPoly with Camfind, both with color and objects. 
>> >>> Here are my results for color. 
>> >>> Navy blue sweat pants: AIPoly had various shades of gray, CamFind said 
>> >>> black (which is much closer.) 
>> >>> Oak end table: aIPoly said various shades of gray, CamFind said brown. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Medium blue recliner: AIPoly said gray, Camfind said blue. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> My wife, who is sighted, said the bright light with AIPoly made 
>> >>> everything look gray. It is too bad they don't give you the option to 
>> >>> not use the flash. 
>> >>> With objects, CamFind even identified the oak end table as a wood table 
>> >>> from just a small corner, while AIPoly said it wasn't sure. 
>> >>> Camfind also identified the sweat pants and recliner correctly. 
>> >>> I have now deleted AIPoly. 
>> >>> Richard 
>> >>> 
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Apple TV 4 remote

[Tom Rash]

Is anyone having this problem?  When I turn my TV off with the Apple TV
remote, a lot of times after a minute or so, the TV will come back on by
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RE: apple id mix up please help?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Hey Sieghard, yes I was, it looks like it worked, at least on the phone, we'll 
see what happends on the weekend when I try connecting his phone to the laptop 
and iTunes, keep you posted, and thanks again so much for all your help.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January-11-16 8:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple id mix up please help?

Hi Zoe,

Were you not able to sign out from the app store on his phone and then sign in 
again by following the steps I outlined?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple id mix up please help?

How do I do that?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: January-10-16 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple id mix up please help?

Hello,
Delete his  phone off your ID?

- Original Message -
From: Zoe Fiogkos  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 7:41 pm
Subject: apple id mix up please help?

>
>
> Hi guys
> I have an iPhone 6 plus. I use to use  windows laptop to update and back up 
> my iPhone.
> Now I use my mac to do all the stuff I need to do with my iPhone, but the 
> problem is that my husband got a free iPhone 6 and before I set it up for him 
> I backed up his old iPhone on the windows laptop without signing out of my 
> apple id and now everytime he tries to download something from his app store 
> it makes him use my apple id even though I've now logged out of my apple id 
> on the laptop and his iphone.
> an apple id and
> any ideas how I can solve this.  On the laptop I've signed in with his 
> apple id but still having the same problems. Help please regards Zoe
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Re: AIPoly VS CamFind

[Keith B.]

I have just a couple of thoughts about Aipoly. I really believe they are on 
to something, so I will continue to try to work with them. Most of us can't 
remember how terrible OCR was in its beginning days - how even with the 
best of programs we were lucky to get 85% recognition. And look where OCR 
for the blind is now because we saw the potential, worked with 
manufacturers, and refused to give up a dream. That is my personal thinking 
about Aipoly.

Now for my frustration. I tried to submit a review on my iPhone 6. I could 
rate the program and title the review, but when I got to the writing 
section of the review, it completely kicked me out. I tried this on 
multiple occasions. I emailed the Aipoly Team but have yet to hear back, 
and this was the first day it came out.

If Aipoly truly wants to develop the potential of this app, there has to be 
an acceptable way for us to give feedback. I don't do reviews in iTunes 
generally, and, when I tried, I got nowhere. So, if anyone from Aipoly is 
monitoring this list, some of us believe in you, but you have to find a 
convenient way for us to communicate with you. We really are the key to 
your success.

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 4:33:55 AM UTC-6, sandy wrote:
>
> Richard, 
> No I haven't discovered how to give feedback other than with the "pen" or 
> was it pencil? I shall try playing with that feature. 
> Good luck, Sandy 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On 11 Jan 2016, at 16:17, Richard Turner  > wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > Did you find a way to submit feedback? 
> > I didn't. 
> > Of course, I did not spend a lot of time trying. 
> > Thanks, 
> > Richard 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 1:55 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <
> vip...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> hi Richard, 
> >> After my less than stellar experience with a aiPoly vision, together 
> with my usual success with CamFind, I got my partner to try out a aiPoly 
> for me, lest it was user error on my part, and we discovered that, for him, 
> while it works, it is incredibly inaccurate. however, I will not delete it 
> because I am sure that real-time video object identification is the way to 
> go. I think, with time, this will improve and our findings and addings to 
> the library is one way for it to do so. for me, the time lag is crucial! 
> probably, we should all submit our experiences and findings with the app in 
> the hopes that they will improve it. 
> >> 
> >> thoughts, Sandy 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone 
> >> 
> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 00:18, Richard Turner  > wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I compared AIPoly with Camfind, both with color and objects. 
> >>> Here are my results for color. 
> >>> Navy blue sweat pants: AIPoly had various shades of gray, CamFind said 
> black (which is much closer.) 
> >>> Oak end table: aIPoly said various shades of gray, CamFind said brown. 
> >>> 
> >>> Medium blue recliner: AIPoly said gray, Camfind said blue. 
> >>> 
> >>> My wife, who is sighted, said the bright light with AIPoly made 
> everything look gray. It is too bad they don't give you the option to not 
> use the flash. 
> >>> With objects, CamFind even identified the oak end table as a wood 
> table from just a small corner, while AIPoly said it wasn't sure. 
> >>> Camfind also identified the sweat pants and recliner correctly. 
> >>> I have now deleted AIPoly. 
> >>> Richard 
> >>> 
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Re: Apple TV 4 remote

[Les Kriegler]

How do you turn off the TV with the Apple TV remote.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Scotia bank in Canada

[Mike Cormier]

Hi Sieghard

That is exactly the same problem I am having, I will be sure to call Scotia 
Bank and advise them of this.
Like you said the app is very accessible, and only this bug makes it very 
frustrating

Thanks for this information and if you find out anything that they will fix it 
let us know thank you very much



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 2:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike and Victor,
> 
> I am also a Scotia Bank customer and I have quite a few different accounts 
> with them both for my business and my personal account, mortgage, tax free 
> savings account, a personal line of credit and iTrade investment account.
> 
> I also can read my balances just fine, where the second last update messed 
> things up is in that if I double tap on an account I can no longer get the 
> information as to what the transactions are. Voiceover reads the date and the 
> amount of the deposit or withdrawel, but where it used to read what type of 
> transaction it was it now no longer gives me that information.
> 
> I contacted their support a few months ago because I wanted them to fix the 
> few unlabeled buttons in the app and I received a very courteous and 
> personalized reply from a lady who told me that she would be working with me 
> to pass on my feedback to their developers and accessibility people. When 
> this last thing happened I contacted her again (the was on December 9) and as 
> you can see from the reply I received, I was supposed to be contacted again, 
> but I have not yet heard anything and will email her again after I finish 
> this message. Monica's email is at the bottom of the message and I will 
> mention in my message that I have shared it with a few other users of the app 
> and that she may hear from them. Maybe if a few more people send in their 
> feedback they'll fix this sooner. The app is wonderfully accessible with the 
> exception of a few unlabeled buttons and now the fact that it doesn't read me 
> the transaction descriptions, but I'm sure they'll fix this sooner or later. 
> Here now the reply I received a month ago:
> 
> Hello Mr. Weitzel,
> 
> Thank you for reaching out and telling me about the new issues that you 
> encountered on the latest releases of the Scotia Online mobile application. I 
> have forwarded your comments to the mobile application team and will get back 
> to you as soon as I hear from them. I will definitely reinforce the urgency 
> of the problem and find out when it can be fixed. 
> 
> The issues that you raised in August are currently in the queue for 
> remediation but I do not have a sense yet of when they are scheduled to be 
> fixed. 
> 
> Myself or someone from the online banking team will get in touch with you 
> again before the end of the week.
> 
> I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused you and we commit to 
> working with you to improve your banking experience. 
> 
> Yours,
> Monica
> 
> Monica Ackermann, P.Eng. MA
> Senior Manager
>  
> Scotiabank
> Enabling Solutions and Support Management 
> T. 416.933.1404
> M: 416.500.1605
> Email: monica.ackerm...@scotiabank.com
> 
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada
> 
> Are you running the latest build of the app, because I use it all the time, 
> and there's no such problem like this on my end.
> 
> I'm using it on an iPhone 4S, and an iPhone 6S.
> 
> 
> Victor Gouveia
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Cormier
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Scotia bank in Canada
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Are any of you in Canada, using the Scotia Bank app, on the iPhone, having 
> issues reading your account balances For about a month now, I cannot tell 
> which amount belongs to what product as I read down my bank statement, It 
> only reads the amount at the end of the line Please advise me if anybody has 
> the same issue thank you very much Mike
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RE: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks, Ed.
 It's the Activity app for me that's a bit fidgety when I try to get the steps 
count and distance for the day. I like the access to this info on my watch, but 
know I can get it on my phone if I need to. I'm holding off on Pedometer plus 
plus for now, but may look at it in the near future.

Best, Keith

-Original Message-
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Ed Worrell
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

Hey Keith,

What issues are you having? Is it with Pedometer PlusPlus, or with the two 
finger drag up on the first screen of the activity app on the Apple Watch? 

If it is on the watch it is a little finicky for me as well. It seems to have 
some trouble loading the steps, or even VoiceOver may skip over the step count 
all together, an not really sure which. That is why I use the Pedometer 
PlusPlus app as I can have the step count on the watch face. 

I hope that this helps,

Ed
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Thanks very much for this. It works. It's a bit finicky for me, but that 
> could very well be me.
> 
> Best, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I believe on the first screen of the activity app on the watch, you have to 
> do a two finger drag up to get the step count to display. I just use the app 
> Pedometer plus plus, and use the watch complication to see my step count. The 
> only issue with the complication is that it only refreshes every 15 minutes 
> or so. This is a stipulation to save on battery put there from Apple though. 
> The app is free and fully accessible.
> 
> i hope that this helps,
> 
> Ed
>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks very much. I didn't even know I had an Activity app on my 
>> phone.but I found it as you described. For convenience, I would still 
>> like the step count on my watch, but knowing it's on the phone, I'll be able 
>> to get it when I want it. Thanks again, Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 7:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
>> 
>> 
>> Like you, I do not see the step information in the activity app on my watch, 
>> but it is in the Activity app on your phone.  In the Activity app on your 
>> phone, just touch at the bottom of the screen where the two tabs are.  Then 
>> swipe left, and it is the first information you will come to.  So actually, 
>> it is the last thing on that page of the activity app.
>> 
>> Remember, you can also get daily step information in the Health app on your 
>> phone.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Before Watch OS2, iwas able to get a daily step count within the Activity 
>>> app. Since, I can't seem to get it. I can only get Moving, Exercising, and 
>>> Standing. I do get weekly step counts in the weekly summary.
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to get a daily step count report in the Activity app, and 
>>> how?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini

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There is no "edit" action in the rotor.
> On 12 Jan 2016, at 12:19, curmudgeon580  wrote:
> 
> hello
> just a thought
> try moving  the rotor to edit
> then try deleting the app
> good luck
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mary Otten
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Yes, I did empty the app switcher and reboot the device. And it did not help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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>> I know you already got rid of them, but did you by any chance empty the app 
>> switcher and reboot the device to see if that would have helped?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; 
>> mac4thebl...@freelists.org; MacVisionaries 'Adrian Leong' via 
>> 
>> Subject: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini
>> 
>> I recall seeing on one of these lists a thread regarding the inability to 
>> delete apps from phone which also has the 3D Touch. However, I don't have 
>> that problem with my iPhone. I have been able to delete apps.
>> However, this morning I went to delete some apps from my iPad mini, which is 
>> running the latest iOS. I double tap and hold, get the tone, and get the 
>> announcement that application X is editing. At this point, I expect to be 
>> able to double tap on the app and then flick to a delete and confirm. 
>> However, nothing happens I double tap, and things stay as they are, no 
>> change. Nothing. What am I doing wrong. I checked the rotor to see if 
>> somehow I had missed the introduction of an action item. Nothing there. I 
>> need to get some stuff off of my mini, and can't do it. Help!
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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How to play the word game3000+

[Anne Günther]

Hi
I guess I'm overlooking something obvious, but as far as I understand 
it, there's a word, and I have to choose wich meaning is the right one 
from different choices. But when I'm at the end of the screen and try to 
go back, I get always a new word, and a negative point for an unsolved 
word.

What am I doing wrong?
best wishes, Guenni

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Apple TV for question

[Wendy Alling]

Hi, can someone tell me how to change the time zone on the new Apple TV

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Re: Apple TV for question

[MamaPeach]

Go to settings
Then to general.
Flic down until you hear VoiceOver say Date And Time, mine says set 
automatically.
If you do not want it to set automatically, click to turn this off, and then 
flick down to where it says Time Zone and click there. It opens up a 
keyboard, so I am guessing you type in your location. Just putting in a zip 
code does not work, I tried that. I put in my city too, and still couldn't 
get it to work, so I set mine back to set automatically. Not sure how to use 
this.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:24 PM
To: iPhone list
Subject: Apple TV for question

Hi, can someone tell me how to change the time zone on the new Apple TV

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Re: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini

[Donna]

I know that you were able to get rid of the apps. Check Restrictions to comfirm 
that the ability to delete apps is turned on. Settings, General, Restrictions, 
will take you to where you need to be to check the setting. 

DonnaNo, trying to delete individual apps that are not in my trash folder. I 
got rid of them via iCloud.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> By any chance, trying to delete the whole folder?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from an iPad
>> 
>>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 6:43 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, I am not trying to delete the apps that come on the iPad by default. I 
>>> know that those cannot be deleted, and I have stuck all the ones I don't 
>>> need into a trash folder, which resides on the last page on my iPad.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
 
 Just out of curiosity, are you trying to delete apps that cannot be 
 deleted from the iPad mini such a Stocks videos and other Apple apps?
 Jenn
 
 Jennie Facer
 
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
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> delete apps from phone which also has the 3D Touch. However, I don't have 
> that problem with my iPhone. I have been able to delete apps.
> However, this morning I went to delete some apps from my iPad mini, which 
> is running the latest iOS. I double tap and hold, get the tone, and get 
> the announcement that application X is editing. At this point, I expect 
> to be able to double tap on the app and then flick to a delete and 
> confirm. However, nothing happens I double tap, and things stay as they 
> are, no change. Nothing. What am I doing wrong. I checked the rotor to 
> see if somehow I had missed the introduction of an action item. Nothing 
> there. I need to get some stuff off of my mini, and can't do it. Help!
> Mary
> 
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Re: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini

[curmudgeon580]

hello
just a thought
try moving  the rotor to edit
then try deleting the app
good luck

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini

Yes, I did empty the app switcher and reboot the device. And it did not 
help.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I know you already got rid of them, but did you by any chance empty the 
app switcher and reboot the device to see if that would have helped?


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Of Mary Otten

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mac4thebl...@freelists.org; MacVisionaries 'Adrian Leong' via 


Subject: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini

I recall seeing on one of these lists a thread regarding the inability to 
delete apps from phone which also has the 3D Touch. However, I don't have 
that problem with my iPhone. I have been able to delete apps.
However, this morning I went to delete some apps from my iPad mini, which 
is running the latest iOS. I double tap and hold, get the tone, and get 
the announcement that application X is editing. At this point, I expect to 
be able to double tap on the app and then flick to a delete and confirm. 
However, nothing happens I double tap, and things stay as they are, no 
change. Nothing. What am I doing wrong. I checked the rotor to see if 
somehow I had missed the introduction of an action item. Nothing there. I 
need to get some stuff off of my mini, and can't do it. Help!

Mary


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Re: Kindle App

[Kimberly]

I've never done more than use it for reading, but it works very well for that. 
I don't know about highlighting etc., but if what you want is a nice accessible 
reading experience then you can't beat it.


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Re: AIPoly VS CamFind

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Richard,
No I haven't discovered how to give feedback other than with the "pen" or was 
it pencil? I shall try playing with that feature.
Good luck, Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 16:17, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you find a way to submit feedback?
> I didn't.
> Of course, I did not spend a lot of time trying.
> Thanks,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 1:55 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> hi Richard,
>> After my less than stellar experience with a aiPoly vision, together with my 
>> usual success with CamFind, I got my partner to try out a aiPoly for me, 
>> lest it was user error on my part, and we discovered that, for him, while it 
>> works, it is incredibly inaccurate. however, I will not delete it because I 
>> am sure that real-time video object identification is the way to go. I 
>> think, with time, this will improve and our findings and addings to the 
>> library is one way for it to do so. for me, the time lag is crucial! 
>> probably, we should all submit our experiences and findings with the app in 
>> the hopes that they will improve it.
>> 
>> thoughts, Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 00:18, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I compared AIPoly with Camfind, both with color and objects. 
>>> Here are my results for color.
>>> Navy blue sweat pants: AIPoly had various shades of gray, CamFind said 
>>> black (which is much closer.)
>>> Oak end table: aIPoly said various shades of gray, CamFind said brown.
>>> 
>>> Medium blue recliner: AIPoly said gray, Camfind said blue.
>>> 
>>> My wife, who is sighted, said the bright light with AIPoly made everything 
>>> look gray. It is too bad they don't give you the option to not use the 
>>> flash.
>>> With objects, CamFind even identified the oak end table as a wood table 
>>> from just a small corner, while AIPoly said it wasn't sure.
>>> Camfind also identified the sweat pants and recliner correctly.
>>> I have now deleted AIPoly.
>>> Richard
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RE: Apple TV 4 remote

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Probably something we should report to Apple Accessibility. I very much like 
the fact that I can just pick up my one little remote, push a button to wake up 
the Apple TV and my TV also turns itself on.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

This was happening to me too until I made one adjustment. I went into settings, 
then to remote and devices and flicked down to Home Theater Control and set 
that to off. Now my TV does not come on randomly.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:08 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Apple TV 4 remote

 

I usually don’t turn off my Apple TV or, I guess, it would be more accurate to 
say that I don’t manually put it in sleep mode. Usually I just turn off our 
Sony TV. A few days ago I did this and an hour later or so when I was already 
in bed and my wife was sleeping I suddenly heard the Apple TV come to life in 
the living room and start speaking rather loudly. Our bedroom door was open and 
it’s not that far away, fortunately my wife is usually a deep sleeper. Anyhow, 
I went to the TV and used Light Detector to check and sure enough, the TV was 
on because if the Apple TV wakes up the TV turns itself on. This is usually a 
nice feature, but certainly not something one would want to happen randomly. 
Anyhow, I turned the TV off and I know it was off because I did it on the 
on/off button on top of the TV itself and Light Detector indicated there was no 
more light coming from the screen. I went back to bed and then maybe around 4 
am Voiceover started blaring again and it started reading the title and 
description of the moview we watched that night. I ran over there to shut it up 
and of course my TV was back on. I have a Sonos Playbar connected to the 
optical audio out of the TV so unless the TV comes on it doesn’t work. I turned 
it off again, but now I also turn off Voiceover when we are done using it, my 
wife doesn’t need it anyways and this way at least it is not going to wake us 
up in themiddle of the night. Hopefully this will get fixed, but of course if 
you have automatic updates turned on then maybe this would cause the Apple TV 
to wake up and hence the main TV wakes up.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Fom: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

Hold down your Home button on the Apple TV for two to three seconds. VoiceOver 
will say Sleep Now. Then simply click on the Sleep button and the Apple TV will 
go to sleep until you activate it by pressing any button.

 

From: Les Kriegler   

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:09 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

How do you turn off the TV with the Apple TV remote.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 12, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Tom Rash  > wrote:

Is anyone having this problem?  When I turn my TV off with the Apple TV remote, 
a lot of times after a minute or so, the TV will come back on by itself.  


 

 

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RE: Scotia bank in Canada

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mike,

Yes, let them know since the more people who do so the better the chances it 
will get fixed. Scotia Bank has an official accessibility statement so I'm sure 
it will get done hopefully sooner rather than later.

I really liked it when Scotia Bank introduced Touch Id support. Since it's my 
main bank I use a rather long and complicated password so being able to sign in 
super fast with Touch Id definitely makes me want to use the app more although 
if I am at home or in my office I still do all transactions like bill payments, 
transfers, paying my taxes for the store etc. via the website because I like to 
print the confirmation pages to my PDF printer and save them and that is still 
easier and more efficient on the PC. But if I have to do something while I'm 
away it's certainly possible and accessible.


Take care,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Cormier
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada

Hi Sieghard

That is exactly the same problem I am having, I will be sure to call Scotia 
Bank and advise them of this.
Like you said the app is very accessible, and only this bug makes it very 
frustrating

Thanks for this information and if you find out anything that they will fix it 
let us know thank you very much



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 2:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike and Victor,
> 
> I am also a Scotia Bank customer and I have quite a few different accounts 
> with them both for my business and my personal account, mortgage, tax free 
> savings account, a personal line of credit and iTrade investment account.
> 
> I also can read my balances just fine, where the second last update messed 
> things up is in that if I double tap on an account I can no longer get the 
> information as to what the transactions are. Voiceover reads the date and the 
> amount of the deposit or withdrawel, but where it used to read what type of 
> transaction it was it now no longer gives me that information.
> 
> I contacted their support a few months ago because I wanted them to fix the 
> few unlabeled buttons in the app and I received a very courteous and 
> personalized reply from a lady who told me that she would be working with me 
> to pass on my feedback to their developers and accessibility people. When 
> this last thing happened I contacted her again (the was on December 9) and as 
> you can see from the reply I received, I was supposed to be contacted again, 
> but I have not yet heard anything and will email her again after I finish 
> this message. Monica's email is at the bottom of the message and I will 
> mention in my message that I have shared it with a few other users of the app 
> and that she may hear from them. Maybe if a few more people send in their 
> feedback they'll fix this sooner. The app is wonderfully accessible with the 
> exception of a few unlabeled buttons and now the fact that it doesn't read me 
> the transaction descriptions, but I'm sure they'll fix this sooner or later. 
> Here now the reply I received a month ago:
> 
> Hello Mr. Weitzel,
> 
> Thank you for reaching out and telling me about the new issues that you 
> encountered on the latest releases of the Scotia Online mobile application. I 
> have forwarded your comments to the mobile application team and will get back 
> to you as soon as I hear from them. I will definitely reinforce the urgency 
> of the problem and find out when it can be fixed. 
> 
> The issues that you raised in August are currently in the queue for 
> remediation but I do not have a sense yet of when they are scheduled to be 
> fixed. 
> 
> Myself or someone from the online banking team will get in touch with you 
> again before the end of the week.
> 
> I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused you and we commit to 
> working with you to improve your banking experience. 
> 
> Yours,
> Monica
> 
> Monica Ackermann, P.Eng. MA
> Senior Manager
> 
> Scotiabank
> Enabling Solutions and Support Management T. 416.933.1404
> M: 416.500.1605
> Email: monica.ackerm...@scotiabank.com
> 
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada
> 
> Are you running the latest build of the app, because I use it all the time, 
> and there's no such problem like this on my end.
> 
> I'm using it on an iPhone 4S, and an iPhone 6S.
> 
> 
> Victor Gouveia
> Vice-President
> Training Coordinator
> VIP Tech
> Tel: 1-888-640-6661
> Fax: 1-888-640-6669
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Cormier
> Sent: 

Re: Apple TV 4 remote

[MamaPeach]

Yes, occasionally this does happen to me too.

From: Tom Rash 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Apple TV 4 remote

Is anyone having this problem?  When I turn my TV off with the Apple TV remote, 
a lot of times after a minute or so, the TV will come back on by itself.  
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RE: Apple TV 4 remote

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I have the same issue!

 

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RE: AIPoly VS CamFind

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

 

I just Googled “Aipoly Vision” and found their website at www.aipoly.com 
 . Interestingly enough there seems to be no “Contact 
Us”, a link to submit a feedback/support form or an email for support. However, 
when I clicked on the “Press” link, I found an email address for press and 
interview inquiries. It is t...@aipoly.com  . Maybe 
supp...@aipoly.com   would work, but I agree that 
while it’s nice to see that they are trying to get main stream media coverage, 
they should be working closely with the people which the app is intended for. I 
guess let’s see if Aipoly is still around in a year or two and how many updates 
and improvements it has received.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AIPoly VS CamFind

 

Would you share the email address you have for the AIPoly team?

Also, the problem with submitting reviews is an Apple issue, which I have 
reported a couple times to the accessibility team at Apple. I'd suggest 
everyone else having issues submitting reviews do the same. 
accessibil...@apple.com  

 

 

Richard

 


On Jan 12, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Keith B.  > wrote:

I have just a couple of thoughts about Aipoly. I really believe they are on to 
something, so I will continue to try to work with them. Most of us can't 
remember how terrible OCR was in its beginning days - how even with the best of 
programs we were lucky to get 85% recognition. And look where OCR for the blind 
is now because we saw the potential, worked with manufacturers, and refused to 
give up a dream. That is my personal thinking about Aipoly.

Now for my frustration. I tried to submit a review on my iPhone 6. I could rate 
the program and title the review, but when I got to the writing section of the 
review, it completely kicked me out. I tried this on multiple occasions. I 
emailed the Aipoly Team but have yet to hear back, and this was the first day 
it came out.

If Aipoly truly wants to develop the potential of this app, there has to be an 
acceptable way for us to give feedback. I don't do reviews in iTunes generally, 
and, when I tried, I got nowhere. So, if anyone from Aipoly is monitoring this 
list, some of us believe in you, but you have to find a convenient way for us 
to communicate with you. We really are the key to your success.

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 4:33:55 AM UTC-6, sandy wrote:

Richard, 
No I haven't discovered how to give feedback other than with the "pen" or was 
it pencil? I shall try playing with that feature. 
Good luck, Sandy 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 16:17, Richard Turner   > wrote: 
> 
> 
> Did you find a way to submit feedback? 
> I didn't. 
> Of course, I did not spend a lot of time trying. 
> Thanks, 
> Richard 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 1:55 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> hi Richard, 
>> After my less than stellar experience with a aiPoly vision, together with my 
>> usual success with CamFind, I got my partner to try out a aiPoly for me, 
>> lest it was user error on my part, and we discovered that, for him, while it 
>> works, it is incredibly inaccurate. however, I will not delete it because I 
>> am sure that real-time video object identification is the way to go. I 
>> think, with time, this will improve and our findings and addings to the 
>> library is one way for it to do so. for me, the time lag is crucial! 
>> probably, we should all submit our experiences and findings with the app in 
>> the hopes that they will improve it. 
>> 
>> thoughts, Sandy 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 00:18, Richard Turner >>  > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> I compared AIPoly with Camfind, both with color and objects. 
>>> Here are my results for color. 
>>> Navy blue sweat pants: AIPoly had various shades of gray, CamFind said 
>>> black (which is much closer.) 
>>> Oak end table: aIPoly said various shades of gray, CamFind said brown. 
>>> 
>>> Medium blue recliner: AIPoly said gray, Camfind said blue. 
>>> 
>>> My wife, who is sighted, said the bright light with AIPoly made everything 
>>> look gray. It is too bad they don't give you the option to not use the 
>>> flash. 
>>> With objects, CamFind even identified the oak end table as a wood table 
>>> from just a small corner, while AIPoly said it wasn't sure. 
>>> Camfind also identified the sweat pants and recliner correctly. 
>>> I have now deleted AIPoly. 
>>> Richard 
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Re: Apple TV 4 remote

[MamaPeach]

Hold down your Home button on the Apple TV for two to three seconds. VoiceOver 
will say Sleep Now. Then simply click on the Sleep button and the Apple TV will 
go to sleep until you activate it by pressing any button.

From: Les Kriegler 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

How do you turn off the TV with the Apple TV remote.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

[Nancy Badger]

Hi everyone,
I may have figured out something about the activity app complication and the 
issue of finding out how many steps you have walked. When you tap on the 
complication, it does not bring up the entire app. Once you have the activity 
summary open as your complication, you have to double tap on it in order to 
open the entire activity app. Once you have the activity app opened, you can 
swipe up with two fingers to see a page that lets you know how many calories 
you have burned, how many steps you have walked, and your distance. Try it out 
and see if I am correct. I am learning this as well so I could very easily be 
wrong.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hey Keith,
> 
> What issues are you having? Is it with Pedometer PlusPlus, or with the two 
> finger drag up on the first screen of the activity app on the Apple Watch? 
> 
> If it is on the watch it is a little finicky for me as well. It seems to have 
> some trouble loading the steps, or even VoiceOver may skip over the step 
> count all together, an not really sure which. That is why I use the Pedometer 
> PlusPlus app as I can have the step count on the watch face. 
> 
> I hope that this helps,
> 
> Ed
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> Thanks very much for this. It works. It's a bit finicky for me, but that 
>> could very well be me.
>> 
>> Best, Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I believe on the first screen of the activity app on the watch, you have to 
>> do a two finger drag up to get the step count to display. I just use the app 
>> Pedometer plus plus, and use the watch complication to see my step count. 
>> The only issue with the complication is that it only refreshes every 15 
>> minutes or so. This is a stipulation to save on battery put there from Apple 
>> though. The app is free and fully accessible.
>> 
>> i hope that this helps,
>> 
>> Ed
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much. I didn't even know I had an Activity app on my 
>>> phone.but I found it as you described. For convenience, I would still 
>>> like the step count on my watch, but knowing it's on the phone, I'll be 
>>> able to get it when I want it. Thanks again, Keith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Chris Chaffin
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 7:29 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like you, I do not see the step information in the activity app on my 
>>> watch, but it is in the Activity app on your phone.  In the Activity app on 
>>> your phone, just touch at the bottom of the screen where the two tabs are.  
>>> Then swipe left, and it is the first information you will come to.  So 
>>> actually, it is the last thing on that page of the activity app.
>>> 
>>> Remember, you can also get daily step information in the Health app on your 
>>> phone.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Before Watch OS2, iwas able to get a daily step count within the Activity 
 app. Since, I can't seem to get it. I can only get Moving, Exercising, and 
 Standing. I do get weekly step counts in the weekly summary.
 
 Is it possible to get a daily step count report in the Activity app, and 
 how?
 
 Thanks in advance, Keith
 
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What's Going On With Cortana?

[BBS]

Hi guys. I've been recently having weird issues with Cortana as of late. It 
started on Saturday. When I try to start a general conversation with her, like 
for example when I say hi to her, all she does is bring up a web search. This 
was before I found out the same day that there was an update for her. So I did 
the update which says it has enhanced voice capabilities and when I tried her 
again, same thing as before. Anyone else having this issue? How do you activate 
these enhanced voice capabilities if that's my problem?

Shawn
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Re: Scotia bank in Canada

[Mike Cormier]

Actually I just activated the touch ID login about a month ago and yes it is 
really really nice
It makes it so easy to login
Once they fix the little issues in the app It will be back to normal and the 
really good App to use
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes, let them know since the more people who do so the better the chances it 
> will get fixed. Scotia Bank has an official accessibility statement so I'm 
> sure it will get done hopefully sooner rather than later.
> 
> I really liked it when Scotia Bank introduced Touch Id support. Since it's my 
> main bank I use a rather long and complicated password so being able to sign 
> in super fast with Touch Id definitely makes me want to use the app more 
> although if I am at home or in my office I still do all transactions like 
> bill payments, transfers, paying my taxes for the store etc. via the website 
> because I like to print the confirmation pages to my PDF printer and save 
> them and that is still easier and more efficient on the PC. But if I have to 
> do something while I'm away it's certainly possible and accessible.
> 
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Cormier
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada
> 
> Hi Sieghard
> 
> That is exactly the same problem I am having, I will be sure to call Scotia 
> Bank and advise them of this.
> Like you said the app is very accessible, and only this bug makes it very 
> frustrating
> 
> Thanks for this information and if you find out anything that they will fix 
> it let us know thank you very much
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 2:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mike and Victor,
>> 
>> I am also a Scotia Bank customer and I have quite a few different accounts 
>> with them both for my business and my personal account, mortgage, tax free 
>> savings account, a personal line of credit and iTrade investment account.
>> 
>> I also can read my balances just fine, where the second last update messed 
>> things up is in that if I double tap on an account I can no longer get the 
>> information as to what the transactions are. Voiceover reads the date and 
>> the amount of the deposit or withdrawel, but where it used to read what type 
>> of transaction it was it now no longer gives me that information.
>> 
>> I contacted their support a few months ago because I wanted them to fix the 
>> few unlabeled buttons in the app and I received a very courteous and 
>> personalized reply from a lady who told me that she would be working with me 
>> to pass on my feedback to their developers and accessibility people. When 
>> this last thing happened I contacted her again (the was on December 9) and 
>> as you can see from the reply I received, I was supposed to be contacted 
>> again, but I have not yet heard anything and will email her again after I 
>> finish this message. Monica's email is at the bottom of the message and I 
>> will mention in my message that I have shared it with a few other users of 
>> the app and that she may hear from them. Maybe if a few more people send in 
>> their feedback they'll fix this sooner. The app is wonderfully accessible 
>> with the exception of a few unlabeled buttons and now the fact that it 
>> doesn't read me the transaction descriptions, but I'm sure they'll fix this 
>> sooner or later. Here now the reply I received a month ago:
>> 
>> Hello Mr. Weitzel,
>> 
>> Thank you for reaching out and telling me about the new issues that you 
>> encountered on the latest releases of the Scotia Online mobile application. 
>> I have forwarded your comments to the mobile application team and will get 
>> back to you as soon as I hear from them. I will definitely reinforce the 
>> urgency of the problem and find out when it can be fixed. 
>> 
>> The issues that you raised in August are currently in the queue for 
>> remediation but I do not have a sense yet of when they are scheduled to be 
>> fixed. 
>> 
>> Myself or someone from the online banking team will get in touch with you 
>> again before the end of the week.
>> 
>> I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused you and we commit to 
>> working with you to improve your banking experience. 
>> 
>> Yours,
>> Monica
>> 
>> Monica Ackermann, P.Eng. MA
>> Senior Manager
>> 
>> Scotiabank
>> Enabling Solutions and Support Management T. 416.933.1404
>> M: 416.500.1605
>> Email: monica.ackerm...@scotiabank.com
>> 
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Scotia bank in Canada
>> 
>> Are you 

Frustrations with Dative Mail App

[Tom Lange]

Hi folks,
The native mail app on my iPhone 6 is driving me nuts; in fact, IOS 9.2 on my 
iPhone 6 just seems to get flakier and squirrelier as time goes by, with 
general instability and/or focus loss issues et cetera, but I digress. Here's 
what's going on with Mail.  
1.  The logg-standing focus issue when exiting from mail threads is still 
around, which annoys me no end.
2.  I continually see multiple mail threads with the same subject lines instead 
of one consolidated mail thread containing the same subject line. Does that 
make any sense?
3.  If I move from my inbox to another folder, say, a folder containing saved 
messages, then attempt to return to my inbox, the inbox is gone. Gone! I can't 
get it back until I kill the mail app in the app switcher and restart Mail.  
What the heck's going on here?  Btw, a colleague of mine at work is 
experiencing the same issue.  I thought that maybe VoiceOver just isn't letting 
me see the inbox, so I turned VO off and back on again. No dice.  

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

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[janet wright]

does any one know how to get rid of the adds in trivia crack kingdoms?
*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
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Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Nancey,

That is pretty much it. It seems to me that there is a lot of extra tapping to 
see the info. I wish that Apple would add a complication for there activity 
apps step counter, or allow you to change what tracking info you would like on 
the complication.

JMO

Ed
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I may have figured out something about the activity app complication and the 
> issue of finding out how many steps you have walked. When you tap on the 
> complication, it does not bring up the entire app. Once you have the activity 
> summary open as your complication, you have to double tap on it in order to 
> open the entire activity app. Once you have the activity app opened, you can 
> swipe up with two fingers to see a page that lets you know how many calories 
> you have burned, how many steps you have walked, and your distance. Try it 
> out and see if I am correct. I am learning this as well so I could very 
> easily be wrong.
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Keith,
>> 
>> What issues are you having? Is it with Pedometer PlusPlus, or with the two 
>> finger drag up on the first screen of the activity app on the Apple Watch? 
>> 
>> If it is on the watch it is a little finicky for me as well. It seems to 
>> have some trouble loading the steps, or even VoiceOver may skip over the 
>> step count all together, an not really sure which. That is why I use the 
>> Pedometer PlusPlus app as I can have the step count on the watch face. 
>> 
>> I hope that this helps,
>> 
>> Ed
>>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much for this. It works. It's a bit finicky for me, but that 
>>> could very well be me.
>>> 
>>> Best, Keith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Ed Worrell
>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
>>> 
>>> Hey Guys,
>>> 
>>> I believe on the first screen of the activity app on the watch, you have to 
>>> do a two finger drag up to get the step count to display. I just use the 
>>> app Pedometer plus plus, and use the watch complication to see my step 
>>> count. The only issue with the complication is that it only refreshes every 
>>> 15 minutes or so. This is a stipulation to save on battery put there from 
>>> Apple though. The app is free and fully accessible.
>>> 
>>> i hope that this helps,
>>> 
>>> Ed
 On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
  wrote:
 
 Thanks very much. I didn't even know I had an Activity app on my 
 phone.but I found it as you described. For convenience, I would still 
 like the step count on my watch, but knowing it's on the phone, I'll be 
 able to get it when I want it. Thanks again, Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chris Chaffin
 Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 7:29 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
 
 
 Like you, I do not see the step information in the activity app on my 
 watch, but it is in the Activity app on your phone.  In the Activity app 
 on your phone, just touch at the bottom of the screen where the two tabs 
 are.  Then swipe left, and it is the first information you will come to.  
 So actually, it is the last thing on that page of the activity app.
 
 Remember, you can also get daily step information in the Health app on 
 your phone.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Chris
 
 
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Before Watch OS2, iwas able to get a daily step count within the Activity 
> app. Since, I can't seem to get it. I can only get Moving, Exercising, 
> and Standing. I do get weekly step counts in the weekly summary.
> 
> Is it possible to get a daily step count report in the Activity app, and 
> how?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Keith
> 
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Re: Cloud storage with two phones

[Brian Albriton]

There is a setting in messaging I turned on that stopped the imessages
going to my wife from coming to me. We do have same apple ID. For the
life of me however, I'm not finding or remembering what the setting
was. In any case, once turned on it made our lives easier.
On 1/11/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That is why using the same Apple Id for iMessage and Facetime is definitely
> not a good idea. You should sign out of iMessage and Facetime on the phone
> you lent to your niece or ask her to do so and then she can sign in with her
> own Apple Id.
>
>
>
> I am not sure, by the way, if family sharing means you are sharing iCloud
> storage, I am pretty sure iCloud storage is tied to your Apple Id so the
> only way to share said storage would be if the same Apple Id was used to
> sign into iCloud, but then again I think there are probably all sorts of
> drawbacks with this and given how inexpensive it is to buy a bit of extra
> storage from Apple it’s probably better to do that.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Gallik
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cloud storage with two phones
>
>
>
> Carl,
>
>
>
> You can indeed share an iCloud account.  Simply set up family sharing and
> have her iPhone access your iCloud account via the e-mail address you are
> using and the password.
>
>
>
> I personally have a quite different problem in that I loaned an iPhone 5 to
> my niece and she and I are now receiving each others’ iMessages.  I find the
> problem is I can’t tell if a message is intended for my reading or not so I
> open messages between my niece and her friends that I have no business
> opening!
>
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
> wfgal...@icloud.com 
>
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Karl Smith   > wrote:
>
>
>
> My wife and I each have 6S phones with 128 GB storage. I have an iCloud
> account with 200 GB of storage. At this point there is still 187 GB storage
> left. My wife’s phone shows only 5GB storage available and she keeps getting
> nasty messages about not enough storage to back up a bunch of videos taken
> the other day. Can’t we share the iCloud account I have or do I need to buy
> another one for her? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Karl
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Anyone tried updated version of grub hub?

[gs]

This is a result of the combining of Seamless and Grub Hub. Quite frustrating, 
isn't it? The seamless app has been this way for a long time. At one point it 
became completely unworkable with VO and stayed that way for quite a while. At 
least it is now usable. I would encourage everyone to communicate the issues. 
Heading navigation was also not workable with Grub Hub for a while but 
eventually began working again. Not sure if this was VO or Grub Hub.

On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

I was rather dismayed on first seeing it. Finally got to where I could bring up 
the restaurants in my home location, but didn't click for me exactly how I did 
it. Just looks more confusing to me somehow then old version. Would appreciate 
if anyone has any pointers.

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Re: Cloud storage with two phones

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm guessing it's Settings -> Messages -> Text Message Forwarding.

On 12/01/16 18:05, Brian Albriton wrote:

There is a setting in messaging I turned on that stopped the imessages
going to my wife from coming to me. We do have same apple ID. For the
life of me however, I'm not finding or remembering what the setting
was. In any case, once turned on it made our lives easier.
On 1/11/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

That is why using the same Apple Id for iMessage and Facetime is definitely
not a good idea. You should sign out of iMessage and Facetime on the phone
you lent to your niece or ask her to do so and then she can sign in with her
own Apple Id.



I am not sure, by the way, if family sharing means you are sharing iCloud
storage, I am pretty sure iCloud storage is tied to your Apple Id so the
only way to share said storage would be if the same Apple Id was used to
sign into iCloud, but then again I think there are probably all sorts of
drawbacks with this and given how inexpensive it is to buy a bit of extra
storage from Apple it’s probably better to do that.





Regards,

sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cloud storage with two phones



Carl,



You can indeed share an iCloud account.  Simply set up family sharing and
have her iPhone access your iCloud account via the e-mail address you are
using and the password.



I personally have a quite different problem in that I loaned an iPhone 5 to
my niece and she and I are now receiving each others’ iMessages.  I find the
problem is I can’t tell if a message is intended for my reading or not so I
open messages between my niece and her friends that I have no business
opening!

* * * * * * * * *
Bill Gallik
wfgal...@icloud.com 



On Jan 11, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Karl Smith  > wrote:



My wife and I each have 6S phones with 128 GB storage. I have an iCloud
account with 200 GB of storage. At this point there is still 187 GB storage
left. My wife’s phone shows only 5GB storage available and she keeps getting
nasty messages about not enough storage to back up a bunch of videos taken
the other day. Can’t we share the iCloud account I have or do I need to buy
another one for her? Thanks.



Karl





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Re: Frustrations with Dative Mail App

[Melissa Tucker]

the native mail app has never been great.  Since I've been using an ios device 
there has always been some type of problex.  don't have answers but I don't 
think the mail app will totally be reght.


On Jan 12, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:



Hi folks,
The native mail app on my iPhone 6 is driving me nuts; in fact, IOS 9.2 on my 
iPhone 6 just seems to get flakier and squirrelier as time goes by, with 
general instability and/or focus loss issues et cetera, but I digress. Here's 
what's going on with Mail.  
1.  The logg-standing focus issue when exiting from mail threads is still 
around, which annoys me no end.
2.  I continually see multiple mail threads with the same subject lines instead 
of one consolidated mail thread containing the same subject line. Does that 
make any sense?
3.  If I move from my inbox to another folder, say, a folder containing saved 
messages, then attempt to return to my inbox, the inbox is gone. Gone! I can't 
get it back until I kill the mail app in the app switcher and restart Mail.  
What the heck's going on here?  Btw, a colleague of mine at work is 
experiencing the same issue.  I thought that maybe VoiceOver just isn't letting 
me see the inbox, so I turned VO off and back on again. No dice.  

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

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Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Keith,

What issues are you having? Is it with Pedometer PlusPlus, or with the two 
finger drag up on the first screen of the activity app on the Apple Watch? 

If it is on the watch it is a little finicky for me as well. It seems to have 
some trouble loading the steps, or even VoiceOver may skip over the step count 
all together, an not really sure which. That is why I use the Pedometer 
PlusPlus app as I can have the step count on the watch face. 

I hope that this helps,

Ed
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Thanks very much for this. It works. It's a bit finicky for me, but that 
> could very well be me.
> 
> Best, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I believe on the first screen of the activity app on the watch, you have to 
> do a two finger drag up to get the step count to display. I just use the app 
> Pedometer plus plus, and use the watch complication to see my step count. The 
> only issue with the complication is that it only refreshes every 15 minutes 
> or so. This is a stipulation to save on battery put there from Apple though. 
> The app is free and fully accessible.
> 
> i hope that this helps,
> 
> Ed
>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks very much. I didn't even know I had an Activity app on my 
>> phone.but I found it as you described. For convenience, I would still 
>> like the step count on my watch, but knowing it's on the phone, I'll be able 
>> to get it when I want it. Thanks again, Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 7:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
>> 
>> 
>> Like you, I do not see the step information in the activity app on my watch, 
>> but it is in the Activity app on your phone.  In the Activity app on your 
>> phone, just touch at the bottom of the screen where the two tabs are.  Then 
>> swipe left, and it is the first information you will come to.  So actually, 
>> it is the last thing on that page of the activity app.
>> 
>> Remember, you can also get daily step information in the Health app on your 
>> phone.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Before Watch OS2, iwas able to get a daily step count within the Activity 
>>> app. Since, I can't seem to get it. I can only get Moving, Exercising, and 
>>> Standing. I do get weekly step counts in the weekly summary.
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to get a daily step count report in the Activity app, and 
>>> how?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: Apple TV 4 remote

[MamaPeach]

This was happening to me too until I made one adjustment. I went into settings, 
then to remote and devices and flicked down to Home Theater Control and set 
that to off. Now my TV does not come on randomly.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple TV 4 remote

I usually don’t turn off my Apple TV or, I guess, it would be more accurate to 
say that I don’t manually put it in sleep mode. Usually I just turn off our 
Sony TV. A few days ago I did this and an hour later or so when I was already 
in bed and my wife was sleeping I suddenly heard the Apple TV come to life in 
the living room and start speaking rather loudly. Our bedroom door was open and 
it’s not that far away, fortunately my wife is usually a deep sleeper. Anyhow, 
I went to the TV and used Light Detector to check and sure enough, the TV was 
on because if the Apple TV wakes up the TV turns itself on. This is usually a 
nice feature, but certainly not something one would want to happen randomly. 
Anyhow, I turned the TV off and I know it was off because I did it on the 
on/off button on top of the TV itself and Light Detector indicated there was no 
more light coming from the screen. I went back to bed and then maybe around 4 
am Voiceover started blaring again and it started reading the title and 
description of the moview we watched that night. I ran over there to shut it up 
and of course my TV was back on. I have a Sonos Playbar connected to the 
optical audio out of the TV so unless the TV comes on it doesn’t work. I turned 
it off again, but now I also turn off Voiceover when we are done using it, my 
wife doesn’t need it anyways and this way at least it is not going to wake us 
up in themiddle of the night. Hopefully this will get fixed, but of course if 
you have automatic updates turned on then maybe this would cause the Apple TV 
to wake up and hence the main TV wakes up.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Fom: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

Hold down your Home button on the Apple TV for two to three seconds. VoiceOver 
will say Sleep Now. Then simply click on the Sleep button and the Apple TV will 
go to sleep until you activate it by pressing any button.

 

From: Les Kriegler 

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:09 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

How do you turn off the TV with the Apple TV remote.

Sent from my iPhone


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  Is anyone having this problem?  When I turn my TV off with the Apple TV 
remote, a lot of times after a minute or so, the TV will come back on by 
itself.  


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RE: Apple TV 4 remote

[Tom Rash]

 wonder if it's related to the use of Voice over.  My son has an Apple TV 4
as well and doesn't have this problem.

  _  

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RE: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi Ed,

Thanks very much for this. It works. It's a bit finicky for me, but that could 
very well be me.

Best, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count

Hey Guys,

I believe on the first screen of the activity app on the watch, you have to do 
a two finger drag up to get the step count to display. I just use the app 
Pedometer plus plus, and use the watch complication to see my step count. The 
only issue with the complication is that it only refreshes every 15 minutes or 
so. This is a stipulation to save on battery put there from Apple though. The 
app is free and fully accessible.

i hope that this helps,

Ed
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks very much. I didn't even know I had an Activity app on my 
> phone.but I found it as you described. For convenience, I would still 
> like the step count on my watch, but knowing it's on the phone, I'll be able 
> to get it when I want it. Thanks again, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 7:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Applewatch Activity app - how to get daily step count
> 
> 
> Like you, I do not see the step information in the activity app on my watch, 
> but it is in the Activity app on your phone.  In the Activity app on your 
> phone, just touch at the bottom of the screen where the two tabs are.  Then 
> swipe left, and it is the first information you will come to.  So actually, 
> it is the last thing on that page of the activity app.
> 
> Remember, you can also get daily step information in the Health app on your 
> phone.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Before Watch OS2, iwas able to get a daily step count within the Activity 
>> app. Since, I can't seem to get it. I can only get Moving, Exercising, and 
>> Standing. I do get weekly step counts in the weekly summary.
>> 
>> Is it possible to get a daily step count report in the Activity app, and how?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, Keith
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RE: Apple TV 4 remote

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I usually don’t turn off my Apple TV or, I guess, it would be more accurate to 
say that I don’t manually put it in sleep mode. Usually I just turn off our 
Sony TV. A few days ago I did this and an hour later or so when I was already 
in bed and my wife was sleeping I suddenly heard the Apple TV come to life in 
the living room and start speaking rather loudly. Our bedroom door was open and 
it’s not that far away, fortunately my wife is usually a deep sleeper. Anyhow, 
I went to the TV and used Light Detector to check and sure enough, the TV was 
on because if the Apple TV wakes up the TV turns itself on. This is usually a 
nice feature, but certainly not something one would want to happen randomly. 
Anyhow, I turned the TV off and I know it was off because I did it on the 
on/off button on top of the TV itself and Light Detector indicated there was no 
more light coming from the screen. I went back to bed and then maybe around 4 
am Voiceover started blaring again and it started reading the title and 
description of the moview we watched that night. I ran over there to shut it up 
and of course my TV was back on. I have a Sonos Playbar connected to the 
optical audio out of the TV so unless the TV comes on it doesn’t work. I turned 
it off again, but now I also turn off Voiceover when we are done using it, my 
wife doesn’t need it anyways and this way at least it is not going to wake us 
up in themiddle of the night. Hopefully this will get fixed, but of course if 
you have automatic updates turned on then maybe this would cause the Apple TV 
to wake up and hence the main TV wakes up.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Fom: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

Hold down your Home button on the Apple TV for two to three seconds. VoiceOver 
will say Sleep Now. Then simply click on the Sleep button and the Apple TV will 
go to sleep until you activate it by pressing any button.

 

From: Les Kriegler   

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:09 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 remote

 

How do you turn off the TV with the Apple TV remote.

Sent from my iPhone


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Is anyone having this problem?  When I turn my TV off with the Apple TV remote, 
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Re: my new iPhone 6s pplus and not recieving any of my notifyations

[Rajmund]

 Hello,
TRIED opening the apps, to allow them to send you notifications on the new 
phone?

- Original Message -
From: Casey  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 5:11 am
Subject: my new iPhone 6s pplus and not recieving any of my notifyations

>
>
> Hi okay I have my new iPhone 6S plus.
> Now it was restored from my most recent i Cloud backup.
> Now I have all of my notification set up for my radio and TV stations 
> apps just like there were on my older phone.
> Now just for the heck of it I got my old phone out and connected it to 
> wi-fy and I got notifyactions just like I used to when I was using that 
> phone.
> but now I ma not getting of my radio and TV apps notifying me on my 
> current phone.
> Why is this and how do I correct this?
> Everything seems to be working fine on my phone.
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Re: AIPoly VS CamFind

[Keith Bundy]

Hi, Richard. The address Sieghard gave is the one I have - t...@aipoly.com.
I have yet to receive a response.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

> Would you share the email address you have for the AIPoly team?
> Also, the problem with submitting reviews is an Apple issue, which I have
> reported a couple times to the accessibility team at Apple. I'd suggest
> everyone else having issues submitting reviews do the same.
> accessibil...@apple.com
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Keith B.  wrote:
>
> I have just a couple of thoughts about Aipoly. I really believe they are
> on to something, so I will continue to try to work with them. Most of us
> can't remember how terrible OCR was in its beginning days - how even with
> the best of programs we were lucky to get 85% recognition. And look where
> OCR for the blind is now because we saw the potential, worked with
> manufacturers, and refused to give up a dream. That is my personal thinking
> about Aipoly.
>
> Now for my frustration. I tried to submit a review on my iPhone 6. I could
> rate the program and title the review, but when I got to the writing
> section of the review, it completely kicked me out. I tried this on
> multiple occasions. I emailed the Aipoly Team but have yet to hear back,
> and this was the first day it came out.
>
> If Aipoly truly wants to develop the potential of this app, there has to
> be an acceptable way for us to give feedback. I don't do reviews in iTunes
> generally, and, when I tried, I got nowhere. So, if anyone from Aipoly is
> monitoring this list, some of us believe in you, but you have to find a
> convenient way for us to communicate with you. We really are the key to
> your success.
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 4:33:55 AM UTC-6, sandy wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>> No I haven't discovered how to give feedback other than with the "pen" or
>> was it pencil? I shall try playing with that feature.
>> Good luck, Sandy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 11 Jan 2016, at 16:17, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Did you find a way to submit feedback?
>> > I didn't.
>> > Of course, I did not spend a lot of time trying.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 1:55 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <
>> vip...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hi Richard,
>> >> After my less than stellar experience with a aiPoly vision, together
>> with my usual success with CamFind, I got my partner to try out a aiPoly
>> for me, lest it was user error on my part, and we discovered that, for him,
>> while it works, it is incredibly inaccurate. however, I will not delete it
>> because I am sure that real-time video object identification is the way to
>> go. I think, with time, this will improve and our findings and addings to
>> the library is one way for it to do so. for me, the time lag is crucial!
>> probably, we should all submit our experiences and findings with the app in
>> the hopes that they will improve it.
>> >>
>> >> thoughts, Sandy
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 00:18, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I compared AIPoly with Camfind, both with color and objects.
>> >>> Here are my results for color.
>> >>> Navy blue sweat pants: AIPoly had various shades of gray, CamFind
>> said black (which is much closer.)
>> >>> Oak end table: aIPoly said various shades of gray, CamFind said
>> brown.
>> >>>
>> >>> Medium blue recliner: AIPoly said gray, Camfind said blue.
>> >>>
>> >>> My wife, who is sighted, said the bright light with AIPoly made
>> everything look gray. It is too bad they don't give you the option to not
>> use the flash.
>> >>> With objects, CamFind even identified the oak end table as a wood
>> table from just a small corner, while AIPoly said it wasn't sure.
>> >>> Camfind also identified the sweat pants and recliner correctly.
>> >>> I have now deleted AIPoly.
>> >>> Richard
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