Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Devin Prater]

I'll just be glad to be able to use Alex. Are there any other new voices 
available?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it ends in html because is is a page with the link to the mp3 file, but 
> here is a direct link to the file:
> www.turner42.com/VDR4March12.mp3
> 
> If you are using Windows, you probably have to choose whether to open or save 
> the file.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I'm very keen to hear your podcast but the URL written is strange and ends 
> with HTML. Could you kindly send it again as I don't now have your original 
> message on this subject?
> 
> THANKS and I look forward so much to hearing it!
> 
> I dabble a bit with the Reader and know it has a lot going for it but haven't 
> found it to be my favourite or the one I use a lot, so I'd like to get to 
> grips with it some more and, hopefully, use more of its features competently.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
> CC: 
> Date: Sunday, 13 March 2016 12.06 am
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I didn't test and he didn't mention any yet.
>> 
>> I left my display at work, but I'll try to test this week.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4.01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
>> 
>> Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
>> Aleeha 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6.07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
>> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
>> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I 
>> upgraded my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that 
>> to happen again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as 
>> replacing my iPad mini someday.
>> Mary
>> PS great music.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 0" On Mar 12, 2016, at 1.48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> 0" Greetings,
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> 0" I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
> 0" Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
> 0" 
> 0" If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
> 0" 
> 0" 
> 0" 
> 0" www.turner42.com/,vdr4.;html  
> 0" 
> 0" 
> 0" 
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> 0" 
> 0" Richard
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RE: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am not sure I understand the problem probably mostly because as far as I am 
concerned there is no problem. As others have also confirmed this it is my 
guess that it is a user issue rather than a Whats App issue.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eva Abbas
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

 

Hello Sieghard,

 

Thank you for your response.  My friends installed the new update of 
whatsapp on their iPhones.  They are complaining of having difficulty finding 
messages.  Messages are slipping too fast or getting stuck.  What do you think 
they should do to make the problem known to APPLE.  I am sure they at APPLE 
have programmers who take care of the voiceover and its issues.

 

God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:02 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Whatsapp and voiceover

 

No, Doug Lee is a scrit writer who writes scripts for Jaws, there is no 
provision for scripts in Voiceover.

What exactly is the problem with Whats App, I recently used it and it seems to 
work just fine and I didn’t encounter any accessibility issues.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eva Abbas
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Whatsapp and voiceover

 

Hello listers,

 

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?

Thanks for any answer

 

God bless
Eva
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RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Richard Turner]

Yes, it ends in html because is is a page with the link to the mp3 file, but 
here is a direct link to the file:
www.turner42.com/VDR4March12.mp3

If you are using Windows, you probably have to choose whether to open or save 
the file.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

Hi Richard,

I'm very keen to hear your podcast but the URL written is strange and ends with 
HTML. Could you kindly send it again as I don't now have your original message 
on this subject?

THANKS and I look forward so much to hearing it!

I dabble a bit with the Reader and know it has a lot going for it but haven't 
found it to be my favourite or the one I use a lot, so I'd like to get to grips 
with it some more and, hopefully, use more of its features competently.






Carol P 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, 13 March 2016 12.06 am
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

>
>
> I didn't test and he didn't mention any yet.
> 
> I left my display at work, but I'll try to test this week.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4.01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
> 
> Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
> Aleeha 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6.07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded 
> my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen 
> again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad 
> mini someday.
> Mary
> PS great music.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
0" On Mar 12, 2016, at 1.48 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
0" 
0" Greetings,
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
0" Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
0" 
0" If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" www.turner42.com/,vdr4.;html  
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" I hope it is useful.
0" 
0" Richard
0" 
0" 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Regina Alvarado]

very nicely done. I am very glad that we now can I cloud sync. Thank you so 
much for doing this

reggie & Lex

On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Greetings,



I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.

If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.



www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  



I hope it is useful.

Richard



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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Woody Anna Dresner]

hi,

i've been using it with a braille display, and it's about the same as before. I 
don't think Winston has changed braille.

Best,
Anna
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I didn't test and he didn't mention any yet.
> 
> I left my display at work, but I'll try to test this week.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
> 
> Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
> Aleeha 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
>> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
>> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I 
>> upgraded my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that 
>> to happen again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as 
>> replacing my iPad mini someday.
>> Mary
>> PS great music.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
>>> Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
>>> 
>>> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope it is useful.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi Richard,

I'm very keen to hear your podcast but the URL written is strange and ends with 
HTML. Could you kindly send it again as I don't now have your original message 
on this subject?

THANKS and I look forward so much to hearing it!

I dabble a bit with the Reader and know it has a lot going for it but haven't 
found it to be my favourite or the one I use a lot, so I'd like to get to grips 
with it some more and, hopefully, use more of its features competently.






Carol P 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, 13 March 2016 12.06 am
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

>
>
> I didn't test and he didn't mention any yet.
> 
> I left my display at work, but I'll try to test this week.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4.01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
> 
> Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
> Aleeha 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6.07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded 
> my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen 
> again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad 
> mini someday.
> Mary
> PS great music.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
0" On Mar 12, 2016, at 1.48 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
0" 
0" Greetings,
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
0" Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
0" 
0" If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" www.turner42.com/,vdr4.;html  
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" I hope it is useful.
0" 
0" Richard
0" 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Richard Turner]

I didn't test and he didn't mention any yet.

I left my display at work, but I'll try to test this week.

Richard


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Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
Aleeha 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded 
> my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen 
> again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad 
> mini someday.
> Mary
> PS great music.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
>> Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
>> 
>> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I hope it is useful.
>> 
>> Richard
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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Aleeha Dudley]

Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
Aleeha 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded 
> my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen 
> again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad 
> mini someday.
> Mary
> PS great music.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
>> Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
>> 
>> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I hope it is useful.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Richard Turner]

I'm not really sure if it does back up the voices.
When the app is released, I'll install it on my Touch and make sure everything 
is there and it has synced with iCloud.
Then, I'll download it fresh from the App store on my iPhone and turn on the 
sync and see what happens.
My guess is like yours, it probably won't back up the voices, but I'll know if 
I have to install the voices again.

I'm glad folks are finding my overview helpful.
Richard


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Mary Otten
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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview


 Hi Richard,
Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud sink. 
Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't mention 
it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded my iPhone 
and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen again the 
next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad mini someday.
Mary
PS great music.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
> Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
> 
> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
> 
> 
> 
> www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  
> 
> 
> 
> I hope it is useful.
> 
> Richard
> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Thanks for this preview.

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Date: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:48 pm
Subject: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

>
>
> Greetings,
> 
>  
> 
> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
> Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
> 
> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
> 
>  
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Re: Sonos

[Marie]

You could be right but they will still sound good with the Sonos either way.
Marie


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Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

Aren't the movies from Blind Mice ripped into an MP3 format? Will you
get surround sound from these files? I wouldn't think so, but I don't
know, so I'm curious.

On 12/03/16 12:53, Marie wrote:

I long ago ripped all my CDs and have purchased a lot of digital music
from Rhapsody and later from Apple. I seldom watch TV because I was sick
of their commercials and paying too much for too little. I listen to
many audios tracks of descriptive movies from the Blind Mice site and
they should give me some of the surround sound experience with the
Sonos. I also have an Apple TV and use Netflix. But I will primarily
listen to music on the system. I believe I will get plenty of 
entertainment.

Marie
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:27 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Sonos

Also, if you have a lot of CD’s I would suggest you rip them in a
lossless format such as Apple Lossless or FLAC so you can access all
your music with Sonos. Ideally I think any Sonos owner should use a
network attached hard drive which is always available to play music, if
you have it on your computer it has to be on for Sonos to access it.

If you don’t have many CD’s you definitely would want to subscribe to a
music service like Apple Music, Deezer or Spotify. I like Deezer in that
Sonos users can get the Deezer Elite service with access to music in
lossless format (Tidal also offers this), but on the other hand I would
venture that it takes a really discerning ear to notice the difference
especially if all you have are Play 1, 3 and 5 players. Even with the
new Play 5 which is supposed to sound very good you probably have a hard
time hearing the difference. Where it may make sense is if you use a
Sonos Connect with an existing high-end system and by high-end I mean
something where you spent $10,000 and above for your amplifier and
speakers/Sub.

As most of us here are fairly heavily invested in Apple products, Apple
Music really does make the most sense, they have a ton of music and on
iOS devices and the new Apple TV being able to use SIRI to request
certain music to play is simply a nice experience. The Apple Music
experience on Sonos is also very good.

Best regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Marie
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:10 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Sonos

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway,
kitchen and a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and
very open. So I will eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area
which should give me wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom
and office so I will live in a sound theater!LOL

Marie

*From:*Robin Frost 

*Sent:*Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*Re: Sonos

Hi,

Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd
generation.  As I said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have
patch cord and your wish is their command. You merely select line in
source in the app and you can start it playing. All you need to do is
plug it into one speaker and away you go. If it’s part of a stereo pair
grouping the audio will then come out of both speakers seamlessly.

I hope that helps.

Robin

*From:*Marie 

*Sent:*Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*Re: Sonos

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad!
I want to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is
not totally essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play
bar be a better beginning?Marie

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

*Sent:*Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: Sonos

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option
to optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay”
but if you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not
accessible if Voiceover is running.

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is
supposed to sound much better than the older ones.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Robin Frost
*Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Sonos

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems f

RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Gary Bowers]

Richard,

Excellent podcast! You obviously know the VDR and you've done a great job
explaining its features. 

I think I'll like the update. I do have one minor quibble: the timer is not
as easy to access.

But again, I think Winston is doing a great service for us all.

Thanks for the podcast.

Gary

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:49 PM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

Greetings,

 

I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.

If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.

 

www.turner42.com/VDR4.html

 

I hope it is useful.

Richard

 


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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Mary Otten]

 Hi Richard,
Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud sink. 
Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't mention 
it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded my iPhone 
and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen again the 
next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad mini someday.
Mary
PS great music.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
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> 
> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
> 
> 
> 
> www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  
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> 
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Rajmund]

hello,
on this list, both replies do the same. For example, I chose a reply-all, and 
this is going to everyone.




Sent from an iPad Air

> On 12 Mar 2016, at 10:24 pm, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Well now I'm confused. I chose replies supposed to reply all, so I'm 
> wondering why that is the case?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> Just as an FYI, but these messages are not private. They are coming through 
>> to the viphone list.
>> 
>>> On 12/03/16 15:18, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>> Eva, this message, as well as the last one were private ones. However, I
>>> appreciate your comments. I would hope that others would also do this.
>>> This is happened periodically, see you not the first one to do it. But I
>>> figured that's what happened, no problem though and I appreciate your
>>> willingness to adapt messages. There's a lot of messages on this list
>>> and a lot of them are threaded, and this can become a problem. Thanks
>>> again for your willingness to work on this.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Eva Abbas >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Alright Les,
   Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what
 happened.  Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied
 to a message (maybe it was sono subject) and I changed the subject
 line and deleted the original text of it.  I did not know at all that
 it affected some people and that some people have their messages
 threaded.  I will never do this again.  When I want to introduce a new
 topic to the list, I’ll start a message anew.
 Best regards
 God bless
 Eva
 ga...@rogers.com 
 Your life is God's gift to you
 The way you live it is your gift to God
 *From:* Les Kriegler 
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
 Hi Eva,
 
 Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about
 Sonos. Your messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread.
 I know this is sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand
 this myself. Basically, I have my messages threaded. What happens is
 that all the messages come up with one subject hopefully. If I don't
 wish to read it, I delete it. When you out your message and it became
 part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I wasn't interested
 in reading about this application. I have a sense that you don't read
 your messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the
 subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you
 didn't do this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp
 messages are part of this thread, so I will just delete them and keep
 the Sonos messages. Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi Les,
>   Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s
> fitting with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about
> another topic, I’ll certainly change the subject line.
> God bless
> Eva
> ga...@rogers.com 
> Your life is God's gift to you
> The way you live it is your gift to God
> *From:* Les Kriegler 
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
> Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to
> say because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message
> is regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the
> subject line if you want to discuss something else.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello listers,
>>   I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you
>> please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the
>> applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time
>> we install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with
>> voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and
>> JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
>> Thanks for any answer
>> God bless
>> Eva
>> ga...@rogers.com 
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Christopher Chaltain]

It also depends on how the list is set up. I'm just in the habit of 
checking the "to" field before hitting the send button.


On 12/03/16 16:24, Les Kriegler wrote:

Well now I'm confused. I chose replies supposed to reply all, so I'm wondering 
why that is the case?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Just as an FYI, but these messages are not private. They are coming through to 
the viphone list.


On 12/03/16 15:18, Les Kriegler wrote:
Eva, this message, as well as the last one were private ones. However, I
appreciate your comments. I would hope that others would also do this.
This is happened periodically, see you not the first one to do it. But I
figured that's what happened, no problem though and I appreciate your
willingness to adapt messages. There's a lot of messages on this list
and a lot of them are threaded, and this can become a problem. Thanks
again for your willingness to work on this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Alright Les,
Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what
happened.  Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied
to a message (maybe it was sono subject) and I changed the subject
line and deleted the original text of it.  I did not know at all that
it affected some people and that some people have their messages
threaded.  I will never do this again.  When I want to introduce a new
topic to the list, I’ll start a message anew.
Best regards
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
*From:* Les Kriegler 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
Hi Eva,

Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about
Sonos. Your messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread.
I know this is sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand
this myself. Basically, I have my messages threaded. What happens is
that all the messages come up with one subject hopefully. If I don't
wish to read it, I delete it. When you out your message and it became
part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I wasn't interested
in reading about this application. I have a sense that you don't read
your messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the
subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you
didn't do this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp
messages are part of this thread, so I will just delete them and keep
the Sonos messages. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Hi Les,
Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s
fitting with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about
another topic, I’ll certainly change the subject line.
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
*From:* Les Kriegler 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to
say because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message
is regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the
subject line if you want to discuss something else.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Hello listers,
I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you
please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the
applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time
we install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with
voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and
JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
Thanks for any answer
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Les Kriegler]

Well now I'm confused. I chose replies supposed to reply all, so I'm wondering 
why that is the case?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Just as an FYI, but these messages are not private. They are coming through 
> to the viphone list.
> 
>> On 12/03/16 15:18, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> Eva, this message, as well as the last one were private ones. However, I
>> appreciate your comments. I would hope that others would also do this.
>> This is happened periodically, see you not the first one to do it. But I
>> figured that's what happened, no problem though and I appreciate your
>> willingness to adapt messages. There's a lot of messages on this list
>> and a lot of them are threaded, and this can become a problem. Thanks
>> again for your willingness to work on this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Eva Abbas > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Alright Les,
>>>Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what
>>> happened.  Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied
>>> to a message (maybe it was sono subject) and I changed the subject
>>> line and deleted the original text of it.  I did not know at all that
>>> it affected some people and that some people have their messages
>>> threaded.  I will never do this again.  When I want to introduce a new
>>> topic to the list, I’ll start a message anew.
>>> Best regards
>>> God bless
>>> Eva
>>> ga...@rogers.com 
>>> Your life is God's gift to you
>>> The way you live it is your gift to God
>>> *From:* Les Kriegler 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
>>> Hi Eva,
>>> 
>>> Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about
>>> Sonos. Your messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread.
>>> I know this is sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand
>>> this myself. Basically, I have my messages threaded. What happens is
>>> that all the messages come up with one subject hopefully. If I don't
>>> wish to read it, I delete it. When you out your message and it became
>>> part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I wasn't interested
>>> in reading about this application. I have a sense that you don't read
>>> your messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the
>>> subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you
>>> didn't do this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp
>>> messages are part of this thread, so I will just delete them and keep
>>> the Sonos messages. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Les,
Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s
 fitting with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about
 another topic, I’ll certainly change the subject line.
 God bless
 Eva
 ga...@rogers.com 
 Your life is God's gift to you
 The way you live it is your gift to God
 *From:* Les Kriegler 
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
 Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to
 say because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message
 is regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the
 subject line if you want to discuss something else.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas >>> > wrote:
 
> Hello listers,
>I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you
> please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the
> applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time
> we install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with
> voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and
> JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
> Thanks for any answer
> God bless
> Eva
> ga...@rogers.com 
> Your life is God's gift to you
> The way you live it is your gift to God
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Re: Sonos

[Christopher Chaltain]

Aren't the movies from Blind Mice ripped into an MP3 format? Will you 
get surround sound from these files? I wouldn't think so, but I don't 
know, so I'm curious.


On 12/03/16 12:53, Marie wrote:

I long ago ripped all my CDs and have purchased a lot of digital music
from Rhapsody and later from Apple. I seldom watch TV because I was sick
of their commercials and paying too much for too little. I listen to
many audios tracks of descriptive movies from the Blind Mice site and
they should give me some of the surround sound experience with the
Sonos. I also have an Apple TV and use Netflix. But I will primarily
listen to music on the system. I believe I will get plenty of entertainment.
Marie
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:27 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Sonos

Also, if you have a lot of CD’s I would suggest you rip them in a
lossless format such as Apple Lossless or FLAC so you can access all
your music with Sonos. Ideally I think any Sonos owner should use a
network attached hard drive which is always available to play music, if
you have it on your computer it has to be on for Sonos to access it.

If you don’t have many CD’s you definitely would want to subscribe to a
music service like Apple Music, Deezer or Spotify. I like Deezer in that
Sonos users can get the Deezer Elite service with access to music in
lossless format (Tidal also offers this), but on the other hand I would
venture that it takes a really discerning ear to notice the difference
especially if all you have are Play 1, 3 and 5 players. Even with the
new Play 5 which is supposed to sound very good you probably have a hard
time hearing the difference. Where it may make sense is if you use a
Sonos Connect with an existing high-end system and by high-end I mean
something where you spent $10,000 and above for your amplifier and
speakers/Sub.

As most of us here are fairly heavily invested in Apple products, Apple
Music really does make the most sense, they have a ton of music and on
iOS devices and the new Apple TV being able to use SIRI to request
certain music to play is simply a nice experience. The Apple Music
experience on Sonos is also very good.

Best regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Marie
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:10 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Sonos

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway,
kitchen and a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and
very open. So I will eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area
which should give me wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom
and office so I will live in a sound theater!LOL

Marie

*From:*Robin Frost 

*Sent:*Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*Re: Sonos

Hi,

Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd
generation.  As I said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have
patch cord and your wish is their command. You merely select line in
source in the app and you can start it playing. All you need to do is
plug it into one speaker and away you go. If it’s part of a stereo pair
grouping the audio will then come out of both speakers seamlessly.

I hope that helps.

Robin

*From:*Marie 

*Sent:*Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*Re: Sonos

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad!
I want to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is
not totally essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play
bar be a better beginning?Marie

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

*Sent:*Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: Sonos

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option
to optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay”
but if you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not
accessible if Voiceover is running.

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is
supposed to sound much better than the older ones.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Robin Frost
*Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Sonos

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or
visually impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience.
Once your library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play
anything you might have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the onl

Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Wow thanks for sharing! How exciting!

El 12/03/2016 03:48 p.m., Richard Turner escribió:

Greetings,



I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.

If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.



www.turner42.com/VDR4.html



I hope it is useful.

Richard





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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

[Terrie Terlau]

Hello Richard,
Thank you for your wonderful overview of the new voice dream. I have a good 
picture of it and I am looking forward to its release. Voice stream is one of 
my very favorite apps I also learned some things it can do from your overview 
that I did not know about. I am looking very forward to the iCloud sink as well.
Thank you again for taking the time to put this review together. It was very 
helpful. Also, I loved the music that you used. If it is not appropriate on the 
list and if you want to, please let me know privately what it was.
Best wishes,
Terrie Terlau

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
> Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
> 
> If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
> 
> 
> 
> www.turner42.com/VDR4.html  
> 
> 
> 
> I hope it is useful.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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Hijacking threads [was "Re: Whatsapp and voiceover"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, this is called hijacking a thread. Threaded mail clients, such as 
the stock email client on the iPhone, will keep messsages in the same 
thread even if you change the subject line. It is a good practice to 
start a new topic with a new message rather than replying to another 
message and changing the subject line.


On 12/03/16 15:12, Eva Abbas wrote:

Alright Les,
 Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what
happened.  Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied to
a message (maybe it was sono subject) and I changed the subject line and
deleted the original text of it.  I did not know at all that it affected
some people and that some people have their messages threaded.  I will
never do this again.  When I want to introduce a new topic to the list,
I’ll start a message anew.
Best regards
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
*From:* Les Kriegler 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
Hi Eva,

Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about
Sonos. Your messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread. I
know this is sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand
this myself. Basically, I have my messages threaded. What happens is
that all the messages come up with one subject hopefully. If I don't
wish to read it, I delete it. When you out your message and it became
part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I wasn't interested in
reading about this application. I have a sense that you don't read your
messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the subject
line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you didn't do this
intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp messages are part of
this thread, so I will just delete them and keep the Sonos messages. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Hi Les,
Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s
fitting with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about
another topic, I’ll certainly change the subject line.
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
*From:* Les Kriegler 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to
say because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message
is regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the
subject line if you want to discuss something else.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Hello listers,
I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you
please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the
applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we
install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.
For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there
someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
Thanks for any answer
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just as an FYI, but these messages are not private. They are coming 
through to the viphone list.


On 12/03/16 15:18, Les Kriegler wrote:

Eva, this message, as well as the last one were private ones. However, I
appreciate your comments. I would hope that others would also do this.
This is happened periodically, see you not the first one to do it. But I
figured that's what happened, no problem though and I appreciate your
willingness to adapt messages. There's a lot of messages on this list
and a lot of them are threaded, and this can become a problem. Thanks
again for your willingness to work on this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Alright Les,
Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what
happened.  Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied
to a message (maybe it was sono subject) and I changed the subject
line and deleted the original text of it.  I did not know at all that
it affected some people and that some people have their messages
threaded.  I will never do this again.  When I want to introduce a new
topic to the list, I’ll start a message anew.
Best regards
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
*From:* Les Kriegler 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
Hi Eva,

Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about
Sonos. Your messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread.
I know this is sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand
this myself. Basically, I have my messages threaded. What happens is
that all the messages come up with one subject hopefully. If I don't
wish to read it, I delete it. When you out your message and it became
part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I wasn't interested
in reading about this application. I have a sense that you don't read
your messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the
subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you
didn't do this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp
messages are part of this thread, so I will just delete them and keep
the Sonos messages. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Hi Les,
Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s
fitting with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about
another topic, I’ll certainly change the subject line.
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
*From:* Les Kriegler 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to
say because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message
is regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the
subject line if you want to discuss something else.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas mailto:ga...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Hello listers,
I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you
please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the
applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time
we install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with
voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and
JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
Thanks for any answer
God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com 
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God
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Re: apple tv 4 and mlb

[Les Kriegler]

Well, I was away I haven't used my four generation since I came back the other 
night. So I have a feeling I'm not going to be happy with when I see either. 
Thanks for alerting me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> He's talking about the latest update to the MLB app that was released for the 
> 4th generation Apple TV on March 9th.
> He's correct, though, the newest version is a complete redesigned app, which 
> has a somewhat inaccessible schedule screen. Hopefully they'll fix it in an 
> update before the regular season starts in April.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Larry, when I access the AppleTV MLB package, I see today's games and choose 
>> that. And then see the schedule. If I choose game day audio, I also see 
>> today's games. Is that what you're looking for are you are you looking for 
>> individual team schedules?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Larry McCreary  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> With the newest update to the mlb app on apple tv the schedule is not 
>>> accessible.  Instead of team names there are team logos.  I am using the 
>>> apple 4th generation.  If someone can help with this problem I would 
>>> appreciate it much.  The app before the update had the team names.
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Re: apple tv 4 and mlb

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Hi,

He's talking about the latest update to the MLB app that was released for the 
4th generation Apple TV on March 9th.
He's correct, though, the newest version is a complete redesigned app, which 
has a somewhat inaccessible schedule screen. Hopefully they'll fix it in an 
update before the regular season starts in April.

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Larry, when I access the AppleTV MLB package, I see today's games and choose 
> that. And then see the schedule. If I choose game day audio, I also see 
> today's games. Is that what you're looking for are you are you looking for 
> individual team schedules?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Larry McCreary  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> With the newest update to the mlb app on apple tv the schedule is not 
>> accessible.  Instead of team names there are team logos.  I am using the 
>> apple 4th generation.  If someone can help with this problem I would 
>> appreciate it much.  The app before the update had the team names.
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Les Kriegler]

Eva, this message, as well as the last one were private ones. However, I 
appreciate your comments. I would hope that others would also do this. This is 
happened periodically, see you not the first one to do it. But I figured that's 
what happened, no problem though and I appreciate your willingness to adapt 
messages. There's a lot of messages on this list and a lot of them are 
threaded, and this can become a problem. Thanks again for your willingness to 
work on this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:
> 
> Alright Les,
>  
> Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what happened.  
> Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied to a message (maybe 
> it was sono subject) and I changed the subject line and deleted the original 
> text of it.  I did not know at all that it affected some people and that some 
> people have their messages threaded.  I will never do this again.  When I 
> want to introduce a new topic to the list, I’ll start a message anew.
> Best regards
>  
> God bless
> Eva
> ga...@rogers.com
> Your life is God's gift to you
> The way you live it is your gift to God
>  
> From: Les Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
>  
> Hi Eva,
> 
> Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about Sonos. 
> Your messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread. I know this is 
> sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand this myself. 
> Basically, I have my messages threaded. What happens is that all the messages 
> come up with one subject hopefully. If I don't wish to read it, I delete it. 
> When you out your message and it became part of this thread, I deleted the 
> thread because I wasn't interested in reading about this application. I have 
> a sense that you don't read your messages. Therefore, you may not know that 
> this is part of the subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I 
> know you didn't do this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp 
> messages are part of this thread, so I will just delete them and keep the 
> Sonos messages. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Les,
>>  
>> Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s fitting 
>> with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about another topic, 
>> I’ll certainly change the subject line.
>>  
>> God bless
>> Eva
>> ga...@rogers.com
>> Your life is God's gift to you
>> The way you live it is your gift to God
>>  
>> From: Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
>>  
>> Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say 
>> because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is 
>> regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line 
>> if you want to discuss something else.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello listers,
>>>  
>>> I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
>>> there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that 
>>> are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in 
>>> whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there 
>>> is Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and 
>>> voiceover?
>>> Thanks for any answer
>>>  
>>> God bless
>>> Eva
>>> ga...@rogers.com
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Eva Abbas]

Alright Les,

Sorry about inconveniencing you.  Well, I think I know what happened.  
Instead of starting a new message from scratch, I replied to a message (maybe 
it was sono subject) and I changed the subject line and deleted the original 
text of it.  I did not know at all that it affected some people and that some 
people have their messages threaded.  I will never do this again.  When I want 
to introduce a new topic to the list, I’ll start a message anew.
Best regards

God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com
Your life is God's gift to you
The way you live it is your gift to God

From: Les Kriegler 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

Hi Eva,

Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about Sonos. Your 
messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread. I know this is 
sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand this myself. Basically, 
I have my messages threaded. What happens is that all the messages come up with 
one subject hopefully. If I don't wish to read it, I delete it. When you out 
your message and it became part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I 
wasn't interested in reading about this application. I have a sense that you 
don't read your messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the 
subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you didn't do 
this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp messages are part of this 
thread, so I will just delete them and keep the Sonos messages. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:


  Hi Les,

  Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s fitting 
with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about another topic, I’ll 
certainly change the subject line.

  God bless
  Eva
  ga...@rogers.com
  Your life is God's gift to you
  The way you live it is your gift to God

  From: Les Kriegler 
  Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

  Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say 
because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is regarding 
Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line if you want to 
discuss something else.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:


Hello listers,

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
Thanks for any answer

God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com
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Re: apple tv 4 and mlb

[Les Kriegler]

Larry, when I access the AppleTV MLB package, I see today's games and choose 
that. And then see the schedule. If I choose game day audio, I also see today's 
games. Is that what you're looking for are you are you looking for individual 
team schedules?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Larry McCreary  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> With the newest update to the mlb app on apple tv the schedule is not 
> accessible.  Instead of team names there are team logos.  I am using the 
> apple 4th generation.  If someone can help with this problem I would 
> appreciate it much.  The app before the update had the team names.
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Eva,

Well what's happening here is that the thread originally was about Sonos. Your 
messages, even the ones now are appearing in that thread. I know this is 
sometimes tricky and it's took me a while to understand this myself. Basically, 
I have my messages threaded. What happens is that all the messages come up with 
one subject hopefully. If I don't wish to read it, I delete it. When you out 
your message and it became part of this thread, I deleted the thread because I 
wasn't interested in reading about this application. I have a sense that you 
don't read your messages. Therefore, you may not know that this is part of the 
subject line. Not sure exactly how that works. Anyway, I know you didn't do 
this intentionally. And I know now that the WhatsApp messages are part of this 
thread, so I will just delete them and keep the Sonos messages. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:
> 
> Hi Les,
>  
> Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s fitting 
> with the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about another topic, I’ll 
> certainly change the subject line.
>  
> God bless
> Eva
> ga...@rogers.com
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>  
> From: Les Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover
>  
> Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say 
> because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is regarding 
> Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line if you want 
> to discuss something else.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello listers,
>>  
>> I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
>> there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
>> used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in 
>> whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is 
>> Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and 
>> voiceover?
>> Thanks for any answer
>>  
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Eva Abbas]

Hello Gerardo,

This is exactly what my friends said they experienced.

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From: Gerardo Corripio 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

While playing an audio message, VO loses focus, having to double-tap to stop 
the message from playing before being able to flick around on the screen to go 
to the other messsages.

El 11/03/2016 11:02 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: 
  No, Doug Lee is a scrit writer who writes scripts for Jaws, there is no 
provision for scripts in Voiceover. 

  What exactly is the problem with Whats App, I recently used it and it seems 
to work just fine and I didn’t encounter any accessibility issues. 



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eva Abbas
  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:55 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Whatsapp and voiceover 

  Hello listers, 



  I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover? 

  Thanks for any answer 



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Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Jenifer Barr]

No, I paid $25.  I contributed to the kickstarter and already had a stand.
Jen

On 3/12/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Right, but if you didn't specifically ask for the Book Rading Aid without
> the Stand, the another stand is attached to the Book Reading Aid.
> Did you pay $35 plus shipping for the Aid?  If so, you probably have a
> second stand.
> The book Reading aid has a longer base than the Stand with the two foam pads
> connected to it.
> So, the Aid has its own base that serves as the platform for the book and is
> what keeps the foam pads connected with the rods that go through the base so
> you can adjust the width of the space between the pads.
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?
>
> Actually, I think I figured it out!  I purchased the bookreading aide
> after I got the stand, so I hadn't put the stand together with the
> aide and that was what was confusing me.
>
> Thanks for the instructions and suggestions Richard.
> I appreciate it.
> Jen
>
> On 3/12/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> It sounds like you need sighted help.  Maybe someone who could watch the
>> video?
>>
>>
>>
>> A rectangle, by definition, has two short sides and two long sides.
>>
>> If you got the Book Reading Aid, the Stand came with it most likely and
>> it
>> is stuck to the stand with the microsuction tape but if you pull up on it
>> it
>> will separate but it takes a bit of force.  Of course, you want to make
>> sure
>> you are pulling on the right item, hence, maybe needing someone sighted
>> to
>> assist.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or, do you use Be My Eyes or one of those that can get sighted help via
>> the
>> iPhone?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or, have a sighted friend who has an iPhone or Skype that you can connect
>> to?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m totally blind, so I can’t be of much more help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Richard. Thanks for the instructions.
>>
>> They're not making sense. My foam pads only rotate one way... Away from
>> the
>> base... The base meaning the book reading aid... Right? Lift the stand
>> off
>> the base? I can't. Longer side facing me? It's like a rectangle. Sorry...
>> Just confused. Lol.
>>
>> Help?
>>
>> Jenifer Barr
>>
>> Jenifer571 on dice world
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner >  > wrote:
>>
>> I’ll put the link and then copy the text below each item.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fopydo Stand instructions and video can be found at:
>>
>> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
>>
>>
>>
>> As you remove a folded stand from the zip-lock bag hold it in your hands
>> by
>> shorter edges. The side with wires should be in your left hand and the
>> wires
>> should be facing down. Reach with your right hand thumb towards the top
>> center of the stand and press the tab in the center to unlock. Please
>> note
>> that when you fold the stand for storage or transport you can push the
>> tab
>> back to lock it in a folded form.
>>
>> Now open the top part of the stand - it unfolds into one layer of
>> corrugated
>> plastic. Hold the short edge with wires in your left hand and the short
>> edge
>> with a tab in the center in your right hand. With your right hand bend
>> the
>> right part of the stand at the crease placed around six inches from the
>> right short edge.
>>
>> Now hold the folded crease in your right hand. In other words you should
>> hold a crease with two layers of corrugated plastic in your right hand
>> and
>> the short edge with wires in a single layer of corrugated plastic in your
>> left hand. Start pushing the crease forward with your right hand forming
>> a
>> triangular shelf till the tab reaches the cut-out for locking the shelf.
>> The
>> center tab snaps into the cut-out and forms the shelf for your mobile
>> device.
>>
>> Now turn the stand so that the shelf is at the top and the wires are at
>> the
>> bottom. Turn the wires by 90 degrees in the same direction as the top
>> shelf
>> - the wires form the base of the stand. Press the wires all the way into
>> the
>> flutes of corrugated plastic. Place the stand on a flat surface.
>>
>> 
>>
>> The top shelf of the assembled stand is 10.5 inches from the surface.
>> This
>> is a proper distance to scan a letter or A4 size document using an iPhone
>> 6
>> or an iPhone 5 - so if this is your goal you do not need to extend
>> L-shaped
>> wires. If you are using an iPhone 4s, or if you want to scan larger
>> documents you need to extend the wires from the vertical back side of the
>> stand. The vertical back side of th

Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Eva Abbas]

Hello Oriol,

   Thank you very much for the good news.



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-Original Message- 
From: Oriol Gómez

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

Hi, whatsApp has no difficulties with voiceover whatsoever.
I have the latest version and latest iOS. Please go update.

On 3/12/16, Les Kriegler  wrote:

Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say
because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is
regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line
if you want to discuss something else.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:

Hello listers,

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please. 
Is

there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that
are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in
whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there
is Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp 
and

voiceover?
Thanks for any answer

God bless
Eva
ga...@rogers.com
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Eva Abbas]

Hi Les,

Sorry, I did not get your point.  I put a subject line that’s fitting with 
the subject of the message.  If I want to talk about another topic, I’ll 
certainly change the subject line.

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From: Les Kriegler 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say because 
of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is regarding Sonus 
that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line if you want to 
discuss something else.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:


  Hello listers,

  I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
  Thanks for any answer

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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Eva Abbas]

Hello Sieghard,

Thank you for your response.  My friends installed the new update of 
whatsapp on their iPhones.  They are complaining of having difficulty finding 
messages.  Messages are slipping too fast or getting stuck.  What do you think 
they should do to make the problem known to APPLE.  I am sure they at APPLE 
have programmers who take care of the voiceover and its issues.

God bless
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From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Whatsapp and voiceover

No, Doug Lee is a scrit writer who writes scripts for Jaws, there is no 
provision for scripts in Voiceover.

What exactly is the problem with Whats App, I recently used it and it seems to 
work just fine and I didn’t encounter any accessibility issues.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eva Abbas
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Whatsapp and voiceover

 

Hello listers,

 

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?

Thanks for any answer

 

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apple tv 4 and mlb

[Larry McCreary]

Hello,
With the newest update to the mlb app on apple tv the schedule is not 
accessible.  Instead of team names there are team logos.  I am using the apple 
4th generation.  If someone can help with this problem I would appreciate it 
much.  The app before the update had the team names.

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RE: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Richard Turner]

Right, but if you didn't specifically ask for the Book Rading Aid without the 
Stand, the another stand is attached to the Book Reading Aid.
Did you pay $35 plus shipping for the Aid?  If so, you probably have a second 
stand.
The book Reading aid has a longer base than the Stand with the two foam pads 
connected to it.
So, the Aid has its own base that serves as the platform for the book and is 
what keeps the foam pads connected with the rods that go through the base so 
you can adjust the width of the space between the pads.

HTH,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

Actually, I think I figured it out!  I purchased the bookreading aide
after I got the stand, so I hadn't put the stand together with the
aide and that was what was confusing me.

Thanks for the instructions and suggestions Richard.
I appreciate it.
Jen

On 3/12/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It sounds like you need sighted help.  Maybe someone who could watch the
> video?
>
>
>
> A rectangle, by definition, has two short sides and two long sides.
>
> If you got the Book Reading Aid, the Stand came with it most likely and it
> is stuck to the stand with the microsuction tape but if you pull up on it it
> will separate but it takes a bit of force.  Of course, you want to make sure
> you are pulling on the right item, hence, maybe needing someone sighted to
> assist.
>
>
>
> Or, do you use Be My Eyes or one of those that can get sighted help via the
> iPhone?
>
>
>
> Or, have a sighted friend who has an iPhone or Skype that you can connect
> to?
>
>
>
> I’m totally blind, so I can’t be of much more help.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?
>
>
>
> Hi Richard. Thanks for the instructions.
>
> They're not making sense. My foam pads only rotate one way... Away from the
> base... The base meaning the book reading aid... Right? Lift the stand off
> the base? I can't. Longer side facing me? It's like a rectangle. Sorry...
> Just confused. Lol.
>
> Help?
>
> Jenifer Barr
>
> Jenifer571 on dice world
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner   > wrote:
>
> I’ll put the link and then copy the text below each item.
>
>
>
> Fopydo Stand instructions and video can be found at:
>
> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
>
>
>
> As you remove a folded stand from the zip-lock bag hold it in your hands by
> shorter edges. The side with wires should be in your left hand and the wires
> should be facing down. Reach with your right hand thumb towards the top
> center of the stand and press the tab in the center to unlock. Please note
> that when you fold the stand for storage or transport you can push the tab
> back to lock it in a folded form.
>
> Now open the top part of the stand - it unfolds into one layer of corrugated
> plastic. Hold the short edge with wires in your left hand and the short edge
> with a tab in the center in your right hand. With your right hand bend the
> right part of the stand at the crease placed around six inches from the
> right short edge.
>
> Now hold the folded crease in your right hand. In other words you should
> hold a crease with two layers of corrugated plastic in your right hand and
> the short edge with wires in a single layer of corrugated plastic in your
> left hand. Start pushing the crease forward with your right hand forming a
> triangular shelf till the tab reaches the cut-out for locking the shelf. The
> center tab snaps into the cut-out and forms the shelf for your mobile
> device.
>
> Now turn the stand so that the shelf is at the top and the wires are at the
> bottom. Turn the wires by 90 degrees in the same direction as the top shelf
> - the wires form the base of the stand. Press the wires all the way into the
> flutes of corrugated plastic. Place the stand on a flat surface.
>
> 
>
> The top shelf of the assembled stand is 10.5 inches from the surface. This
> is a proper distance to scan a letter or A4 size document using an iPhone 6
> or an iPhone 5 - so if this is your goal you do not need to extend L-shaped
> wires. If you are using an iPhone 4s, or if you want to scan larger
> documents you need to extend the wires from the vertical back side of the
> stand. The vertical back side of the stand contains three round cut-outs
> half inch in diameter near the top shelf along right and left edges. These
> cut-outs are 1 inch apart and wires run near the middle of the cut-outs. In
> order to read a letter size document with an iPhone 4s extend the wires by 1
> inch on both sides - till you feel the wire tips in the middle of t

Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Jenifer Barr]

Actually, I think I figured it out!  I purchased the bookreading aide
after I got the stand, so I hadn't put the stand together with the
aide and that was what was confusing me.

Thanks for the instructions and suggestions Richard.
I appreciate it.
Jen

On 3/12/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It sounds like you need sighted help.  Maybe someone who could watch the
> video?
>
>
>
> A rectangle, by definition, has two short sides and two long sides.
>
> If you got the Book Reading Aid, the Stand came with it most likely and it
> is stuck to the stand with the microsuction tape but if you pull up on it it
> will separate but it takes a bit of force.  Of course, you want to make sure
> you are pulling on the right item, hence, maybe needing someone sighted to
> assist.
>
>
>
> Or, do you use Be My Eyes or one of those that can get sighted help via the
> iPhone?
>
>
>
> Or, have a sighted friend who has an iPhone or Skype that you can connect
> to?
>
>
>
> I’m totally blind, so I can’t be of much more help.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?
>
>
>
> Hi Richard. Thanks for the instructions.
>
> They're not making sense. My foam pads only rotate one way... Away from the
> base... The base meaning the book reading aid... Right? Lift the stand off
> the base? I can't. Longer side facing me? It's like a rectangle. Sorry...
> Just confused. Lol.
>
> Help?
>
> Jenifer Barr
>
> Jenifer571 on dice world
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner   > wrote:
>
> I’ll put the link and then copy the text below each item.
>
>
>
> Fopydo Stand instructions and video can be found at:
>
> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
>
>
>
> As you remove a folded stand from the zip-lock bag hold it in your hands by
> shorter edges. The side with wires should be in your left hand and the wires
> should be facing down. Reach with your right hand thumb towards the top
> center of the stand and press the tab in the center to unlock. Please note
> that when you fold the stand for storage or transport you can push the tab
> back to lock it in a folded form.
>
> Now open the top part of the stand - it unfolds into one layer of corrugated
> plastic. Hold the short edge with wires in your left hand and the short edge
> with a tab in the center in your right hand. With your right hand bend the
> right part of the stand at the crease placed around six inches from the
> right short edge.
>
> Now hold the folded crease in your right hand. In other words you should
> hold a crease with two layers of corrugated plastic in your right hand and
> the short edge with wires in a single layer of corrugated plastic in your
> left hand. Start pushing the crease forward with your right hand forming a
> triangular shelf till the tab reaches the cut-out for locking the shelf. The
> center tab snaps into the cut-out and forms the shelf for your mobile
> device.
>
> Now turn the stand so that the shelf is at the top and the wires are at the
> bottom. Turn the wires by 90 degrees in the same direction as the top shelf
> - the wires form the base of the stand. Press the wires all the way into the
> flutes of corrugated plastic. Place the stand on a flat surface.
>
> 
>
> The top shelf of the assembled stand is 10.5 inches from the surface. This
> is a proper distance to scan a letter or A4 size document using an iPhone 6
> or an iPhone 5 - so if this is your goal you do not need to extend L-shaped
> wires. If you are using an iPhone 4s, or if you want to scan larger
> documents you need to extend the wires from the vertical back side of the
> stand. The vertical back side of the stand contains three round cut-outs
> half inch in diameter near the top shelf along right and left edges. These
> cut-outs are 1 inch apart and wires run near the middle of the cut-outs. In
> order to read a letter size document with an iPhone 4s extend the wires by 1
> inch on both sides - till you feel the wire tips in the middle of the first
> pair of cut-outs (right and left) placed one inch below the top shelf. You
> may extend the wires further the second or the third cut-out in order to
> read larger size documents.
>
> Now place your stand on a stable flat surface. Place your mobile device on
> the top shelf of the stand. The long edge of the mobile device should be
> placed along the flutes of corrugated plastic and the camera should be about
> half inch in front of the half circle guide on the edge of the top shelf.
> There are several rectangular cut-outs along the edges of the top shelf
> intended to help in placing your mobile device straight. In addition, there
> is a section of non-slip micro suction tape on the top shelf to secure your
> mobile device in place.
>
> Place your document between the

Re: Sonos

[Marie]

I long ago ripped all my CDs and have purchased a lot of digital music from 
Rhapsody and later from Apple. I seldom watch TV because I was sick of their 
commercials and paying too much for too little. I listen to many audios tracks 
of descriptive movies from the Blind Mice site and they should give me some of 
the surround sound experience with the Sonos. I also have an Apple TV and use 
Netflix. But I will primarily listen to music on the system. I believe I will 
get plenty of entertainment.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Also, if you have a lot of CD’s I would suggest you rip them in a lossless 
format such as Apple Lossless or FLAC so you can access all your music with 
Sonos. Ideally I think any Sonos owner should use a network attached hard drive 
which is always available to play music, if you have it on your computer it has 
to be on for Sonos to access it.

If you don’t have many CD’s you definitely would want to subscribe to a music 
service like Apple Music, Deezer or Spotify. I like Deezer in that Sonos users 
can get the Deezer Elite service with access to music in lossless format (Tidal 
also offers this), but on the other hand I would venture that it takes a really 
discerning ear to notice the difference especially if all you have are Play 1, 
3 and 5 players. Even with the new Play 5 which is supposed to sound very good 
you probably have a hard time hearing the difference. Where it may make sense 
is if you use a Sonos Connect with an existing high-end system and by high-end 
I mean something where you spent $10,000 and above for your amplifier and 
speakers/Sub.

As most of us here are fairly heavily invested in Apple products, Apple Music 
really does make the most sense, they have a ton of music and on iOS devices 
and the new Apple TV being able to use SIRI to request certain music to play is 
simply a nice experience. The Apple Music experience on Sonos is also very good.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting 
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway, kitchen and 
a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and very open. So I will 
eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area which should give me 
wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom and office so I will live 
in a sound theater!LOL

Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think 

Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Richard.
Thanks for the suggesttions. I'll ask my friend to help me tomorrow. 
UnfortunatelyI have noone that has one of ^ed that I could look at. If I could 
see one essembled I could figure it out.
Thanks though for the tips. One more question... Is the stand the whole flat 
side of the aide? 
 

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you need sighted help.  Maybe someone who could watch the 
> video?
>  
> A rectangle, by definition, has two short sides and two long sides.
> If you got the Book Reading Aid, the Stand came with it most likely and it is 
> stuck to the stand with the microsuction tape but if you pull up on it it 
> will separate but it takes a bit of force.  Of course, you want to make sure 
> you are pulling on the right item, hence, maybe needing someone sighted to 
> assist.
>  
> Or, do you use Be My Eyes or one of those that can get sighted help via the 
> iPhone?
>  
> Or, have a sighted friend who has an iPhone or Skype that you can connect to?
>  
> I’m totally blind, so I can’t be of much more help.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?
>  
> Hi Richard. Thanks for the instructions.
> They're not making sense. My foam pads only rotate one way... Away from the 
> base... The base meaning the book reading aid... Right? Lift the stand off 
> the base? I can't. Longer side facing me? It's like a rectangle. Sorry... 
> Just confused. Lol.
> Help? 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll put the link and then copy the text below each item.
>  
> Fopydo Stand instructions and video can be found at:
> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
>  
> As you remove a folded stand from the zip-lock bag hold it in your hands by 
> shorter edges. The side with wires should be in your left hand and the wires 
> should be facing down. Reach with your right hand thumb towards the top 
> center of the stand and press the tab in the center to unlock. Please note 
> that when you fold the stand for storage or transport you can push the tab 
> back to lock it in a folded form.
> 
> Now open the top part of the stand - it unfolds into one layer of corrugated 
> plastic. Hold the short edge with wires in your left hand and the short edge 
> with a tab in the center in your right hand. With your right hand bend the 
> right part of the stand at the crease placed around six inches from the right 
> short edge.
> 
> Now hold the folded crease in your right hand. In other words you should hold 
> a crease with two layers of corrugated plastic in your right hand and the 
> short edge with wires in a single layer of corrugated plastic in your left 
> hand. Start pushing the crease forward with your right hand forming a 
> triangular shelf till the tab reaches the cut-out for locking the shelf. The 
> center tab snaps into the cut-out and forms the shelf for your mobile device.
> 
> Now turn the stand so that the shelf is at the top and the wires are at the 
> bottom. Turn the wires by 90 degrees in the same direction as the top shelf - 
> the wires form the base of the stand. Press the wires all the way into the 
> flutes of corrugated plastic. Place the stand on a flat surface.
> 
> 
> 
> The top shelf of the assembled stand is 10.5 inches from the surface. This is 
> a proper distance to scan a letter or A4 size document using an iPhone 6 or 
> an iPhone 5 - so if this is your goal you do not need to extend L-shaped 
> wires. If you are using an iPhone 4s, or if you want to scan larger documents 
> you need to extend the wires from the vertical back side of the stand. The 
> vertical back side of the stand contains three round cut-outs half inch in 
> diameter near the top shelf along right and left edges. These cut-outs are 1 
> inch apart and wires run near the middle of the cut-outs. In order to read a 
> letter size document with an iPhone 4s extend the wires by 1 inch on both 
> sides - till you feel the wire tips in the middle of the first pair of 
> cut-outs (right and left) placed one inch below the top shelf. You may extend 
> the wires further the second or the third cut-out in order to read larger 
> size documents.
> 
> Now place your stand on a stable flat surface. Place your mobile device on 
> the top shelf of the stand. The long edge of the mobile device should be 
> placed along the flutes of corrugated plastic and the camera should be about 
> half inch in front of the half circle guide on the edge of the top shelf. 
> There are several rectangular cut-outs along the edges of the top shelf 
> intended to help in placing your mobile device straight. In addition, there 
> is a section of non-s

Re: Sonos

[Marie]

Thanks, great ideas.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Hi Marie,

 

My advice would be to put 2 Play 1 speakers into the kitchen area and to mount 
them so they are best placed for when you are sitting at the kitchen table or 
working in the kitchen.

For the great room I would eventually use a set of Play 5 with a Sonos Sub and 
then again in the bedroom, depending on its size, either a set of Play 1 or 
Play 3 and of course you will probably want to put a Play 1 into the bathroom 
if possible.

The only modification I would consider would be if you do regularly watch TV 
and want a surround setup. Assuming the TV is in the great room, I would put a 
Playbar with Sub there and given the size of the room, use two Play 3 players 
wall-mounted behind and to the side of the couch as rear surrounds.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting 
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway, kitchen and 
a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and very open. So I will 
eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area which should give me 
wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom and office so I will live 
in a sound theater!LOL

Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer mo

RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, if you have a lot of CD’s I would suggest you rip them in a lossless 
format such as Apple Lossless or FLAC so you can access all your music with 
Sonos. Ideally I think any Sonos owner should use a network attached hard drive 
which is always available to play music, if you have it on your computer it has 
to be on for Sonos to access it.

If you don’t have many CD’s you definitely would want to subscribe to a music 
service like Apple Music, Deezer or Spotify. I like Deezer in that Sonos users 
can get the Deezer Elite service with access to music in lossless format (Tidal 
also offers this), but on the other hand I would venture that it takes a really 
discerning ear to notice the difference especially if all you have are Play 1, 
3 and 5 players. Even with the new Play 5 which is supposed to sound very good 
you probably have a hard time hearing the difference. Where it may make sense 
is if you use a Sonos Connect with an existing high-end system and by high-end 
I mean something where you spent $10,000 and above for your amplifier and 
speakers/Sub.

As most of us here are fairly heavily invested in Apple products, Apple Music 
really does make the most sense, they have a ton of music and on iOS devices 
and the new Apple TV being able to use SIRI to request certain music to play is 
simply a nice experience. The Apple Music experience on Sonos is also very good.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting 
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway, kitchen and 
a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and very open. So I will 
eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area which should give me 
wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom and office so I will live 
in a sound theater!LOL

Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost   

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the prev

Is Anyone Using the Home Food Storage App?

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I was using the VIA app and was looking for an app for kitchen
organization. The Home Food Storage app was listed, and the most
recent update to that app os something like October or November 2015.
I've just begun to play with the app, and it looks really promising.
Is anyone on list using this? I'd love some clues about how to start
using it for organization, especially when it comes to being able to
scan for bar codes and incorporate the info in to the profile--for
lack of a better word--the app builds for the user as s/he inputs the
necessary data re storage goals and where things actually are stored.

Thanks,
Dani

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RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marie,

 

My advice would be to put 2 Play 1 speakers into the kitchen area and to mount 
them so they are best placed for when you are sitting at the kitchen table or 
working in the kitchen.

For the great room I would eventually use a set of Play 5 with a Sonos Sub and 
then again in the bedroom, depending on its size, either a set of Play 1 or 
Play 3 and of course you will probably want to put a Play 1 into the bathroom 
if possible.

The only modification I would consider would be if you do regularly watch TV 
and want a surround setup. Assuming the TV is in the great room, I would put a 
Playbar with Sub there and given the size of the room, use two Play 3 players 
wall-mounted behind and to the side of the couch as rear surrounds.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting 
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway, kitchen and 
a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and very open. So I will 
eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area which should give me 
wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom and office so I will live 
in a sound theater!LOL

Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost   

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 

Re: Sonos

[Marie]

Okay guys, I ordered a Play 5 last night so will be anxiously awaiting 
delivery. The main part of my house is taken up with the entryway, kitchen and 
a great room which are around 800 to 900 square feet and very open. So I will 
eventually add 4 to 6 Play 1 speakers to the area which should give me 
wonderful sound. Then I can begin adding my bedroom and office so I will live 
in a sound theater!LOL
Marie


From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Hi,
Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.
do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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RE: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like you need sighted help.  Maybe someone who could watch the video?

 

A rectangle, by definition, has two short sides and two long sides.

If you got the Book Reading Aid, the Stand came with it most likely and it is 
stuck to the stand with the microsuction tape but if you pull up on it it will 
separate but it takes a bit of force.  Of course, you want to make sure you are 
pulling on the right item, hence, maybe needing someone sighted to assist.

 

Or, do you use Be My Eyes or one of those that can get sighted help via the 
iPhone?

 

Or, have a sighted friend who has an iPhone or Skype that you can connect to?

 

I’m totally blind, so I can’t be of much more help.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

 

Hi Richard. Thanks for the instructions.

They're not making sense. My foam pads only rotate one way... Away from the 
base... The base meaning the book reading aid... Right? Lift the stand off the 
base? I can't. Longer side facing me? It's like a rectangle. Sorry... Just 
confused. Lol.

Help? 

Jenifer Barr

Jenifer571 on dice world

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I’ll put the link and then copy the text below each item.

 

Fopydo Stand instructions and video can be found at:

http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind

 

As you remove a folded stand from the zip-lock bag hold it in your hands by 
shorter edges. The side with wires should be in your left hand and the wires 
should be facing down. Reach with your right hand thumb towards the top center 
of the stand and press the tab in the center to unlock. Please note that when 
you fold the stand for storage or transport you can push the tab back to lock 
it in a folded form.

Now open the top part of the stand - it unfolds into one layer of corrugated 
plastic. Hold the short edge with wires in your left hand and the short edge 
with a tab in the center in your right hand. With your right hand bend the 
right part of the stand at the crease placed around six inches from the right 
short edge.

Now hold the folded crease in your right hand. In other words you should hold a 
crease with two layers of corrugated plastic in your right hand and the short 
edge with wires in a single layer of corrugated plastic in your left hand. 
Start pushing the crease forward with your right hand forming a triangular 
shelf till the tab reaches the cut-out for locking the shelf. The center tab 
snaps into the cut-out and forms the shelf for your mobile device.

Now turn the stand so that the shelf is at the top and the wires are at the 
bottom. Turn the wires by 90 degrees in the same direction as the top shelf - 
the wires form the base of the stand. Press the wires all the way into the 
flutes of corrugated plastic. Place the stand on a flat surface.



The top shelf of the assembled stand is 10.5 inches from the surface. This is a 
proper distance to scan a letter or A4 size document using an iPhone 6 or an 
iPhone 5 - so if this is your goal you do not need to extend L-shaped wires. If 
you are using an iPhone 4s, or if you want to scan larger documents you need to 
extend the wires from the vertical back side of the stand. The vertical back 
side of the stand contains three round cut-outs half inch in diameter near the 
top shelf along right and left edges. These cut-outs are 1 inch apart and wires 
run near the middle of the cut-outs. In order to read a letter size document 
with an iPhone 4s extend the wires by 1 inch on both sides - till you feel the 
wire tips in the middle of the first pair of cut-outs (right and left) placed 
one inch below the top shelf. You may extend the wires further the second or 
the third cut-out in order to read larger size documents.

Now place your stand on a stable flat surface. Place your mobile device on the 
top shelf of the stand. The long edge of the mobile device should be placed 
along the flutes of corrugated plastic and the camera should be about half inch 
in front of the half circle guide on the edge of the top shelf. There are 
several rectangular cut-outs along the edges of the top shelf intended to help 
in placing your mobile device straight. In addition, there is a section of 
non-slip micro suction tape on the top shelf to secure your mobile device in 
place.

Place your document between the wires, a shorter edge of the document should be 
next to the vertical back side of the stand. Now the camera that is placed half 
an inch in front of the half circle guide points to the middle of the letter or 
A4 size document.



We hope that the stand will serve you well that it will make it easy for you to 
read documents.

 

 

Book Reading Aid video and instructions can be found here:

http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid

 

Ass

Re: Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Richard. Thanks for the instructions.
They're not making sense. My foam pads only rotate one way... Away from the 
base... The base meaning the book reading aid... Right? Lift the stand off the 
base? I can't. Longer side facing me? It's like a rectangle. Sorry... Just 
confused. Lol.
Help? 

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll put the link and then copy the text below each item.
>  
> Fopydo Stand instructions and video can be found at:
> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
>  
> As you remove a folded stand from the zip-lock bag hold it in your hands by 
> shorter edges. The side with wires should be in your left hand and the wires 
> should be facing down. Reach with your right hand thumb towards the top 
> center of the stand and press the tab in the center to unlock. Please note 
> that when you fold the stand for storage or transport you can push the tab 
> back to lock it in a folded form.
> 
> Now open the top part of the stand - it unfolds into one layer of corrugated 
> plastic. Hold the short edge with wires in your left hand and the short edge 
> with a tab in the center in your right hand. With your right hand bend the 
> right part of the stand at the crease placed around six inches from the right 
> short edge.
> 
> Now hold the folded crease in your right hand. In other words you should hold 
> a crease with two layers of corrugated plastic in your right hand and the 
> short edge with wires in a single layer of corrugated plastic in your left 
> hand. Start pushing the crease forward with your right hand forming a 
> triangular shelf till the tab reaches the cut-out for locking the shelf. The 
> center tab snaps into the cut-out and forms the shelf for your mobile device.
> 
> Now turn the stand so that the shelf is at the top and the wires are at the 
> bottom. Turn the wires by 90 degrees in the same direction as the top shelf - 
> the wires form the base of the stand. Press the wires all the way into the 
> flutes of corrugated plastic. Place the stand on a flat surface.
> 
> 
> 
> The top shelf of the assembled stand is 10.5 inches from the surface. This is 
> a proper distance to scan a letter or A4 size document using an iPhone 6 or 
> an iPhone 5 - so if this is your goal you do not need to extend L-shaped 
> wires. If you are using an iPhone 4s, or if you want to scan larger documents 
> you need to extend the wires from the vertical back side of the stand. The 
> vertical back side of the stand contains three round cut-outs half inch in 
> diameter near the top shelf along right and left edges. These cut-outs are 1 
> inch apart and wires run near the middle of the cut-outs. In order to read a 
> letter size document with an iPhone 4s extend the wires by 1 inch on both 
> sides - till you feel the wire tips in the middle of the first pair of 
> cut-outs (right and left) placed one inch below the top shelf. You may extend 
> the wires further the second or the third cut-out in order to read larger 
> size documents.
> 
> Now place your stand on a stable flat surface. Place your mobile device on 
> the top shelf of the stand. The long edge of the mobile device should be 
> placed along the flutes of corrugated plastic and the camera should be about 
> half inch in front of the half circle guide on the edge of the top shelf. 
> There are several rectangular cut-outs along the edges of the top shelf 
> intended to help in placing your mobile device straight. In addition, there 
> is a section of non-slip micro suction tape on the top shelf to secure your 
> mobile device in place.
> 
> Place your document between the wires, a shorter edge of the document should 
> be next to the vertical back side of the stand. Now the camera that is placed 
> half an inch in front of the half circle guide points to the middle of the 
> letter or A4 size document.
> 
> 
> 
> We hope that the stand will serve you well that it will make it easy for you 
> to read documents.
> 
>  
>  
> Book Reading Aid video and instructions can be found here:
> http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid
>  
> Assembly Instructions:
> 
> If you plan to use the stand without the base, the stand can be erected after 
> removal from the base. In this case, instructions for rotating the foam pads 
> can be ignored. If you are using the stand only, any instructions for the 
> base can also be ignored. Place a folded book reading aid on the table with 
> the flat side down. Rotate it so that the longer edge is facing you. Slide 
> out the foam pad on the side that is further from you till it is clear off 
> the base. The foam pad is connected to the base using wires that slide out. 
> You can push the pad out using your thumbs and use your fingers to hold the 
> edge of the base. Do not remove the wires from the base, just slide the wires 
> out till the foam pad is entirely clear off the base. Rotate the foam pad 
> till the side with

Setting up fopydo and bookreading aid?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all. 
I've lost the inructions for setting up the fopydo stand with the bookreading 
aid. Would anyone be able to help me? 
Thanks: 

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world  

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Re: Trekker Breeze units

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

Actually I think it’s a job for an individual programmer to do.  I’ll begin the 
process of putting this together.  I’ll create the program myself.  
I can then submit that to Humanware for a review and maybe they will put it on 
their cd for Maps.


> On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott.  I have a Trekker Breeze and the first gen Victor Reader Stream. 
>  Yes, I agree!  It is now time for HumanWare to make these units compatible 
> with Apple computers.  Maybe we can start a petition?? 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gadget Girl
> Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello there everyone,
>> 
>> I am curious how many people have a Trekker Breeze GPS?  The reason I am 
>> asking is I think it’s about time for us to have a Mac application which can 
>> copy maps, copy route data, update the device if there is new updates.  I 
>> happen to have one.  I am also looking at doing the same thing for the 
>> Victor Stream reader.
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Re: Trekker Breeze units

[Gadget Girl]

Hello Scott.  I have a Trekker Breeze and the first gen Victor Reader Stream.  
Yes, I agree!  It is now time for HumanWare to make these units compatible with 
Apple computers.  Maybe we can start a petition?? 

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Airplaying music from my PC to my Apple TV 4

[Tom Rash]

Since I got my Apple TV 4, and am streaming my music from my PC via wireless
transmission, I'm getting pauses in my music.  It sounds like it could be
buggering.  I get a 1 to 3 second pause about every 3 songs or so.  Is there
a way to test if it's my hard drive, my wireless transmission from my PC, or
if it is in fact the Apple TV 4?  I never had this problem when using the
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Trekker Breeze units

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Hello there everyone,

I am curious how many people have a Trekker Breeze GPS?  The reason I am asking 
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Oriol Gómez]

I thought that was sort of intentional? I mean, we don't want
voiceover speaking while a message is playing do we?

On 3/12/16, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>   While playing an audio message, VO loses focus, having to double-tap
> to stop the message from playing before being able to flick around on
> the screen to go to the other messsages.
>
> El 11/03/2016 11:02 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>>
>> No, Doug Lee is a scrit writer who writes scripts for Jaws, there is
>> no provision for scripts in Voiceover.
>>
>> What exactly is the problem with Whats App, I recently used it and it
>> seems to work just fine and I didn’t encounter any accessibility issues.
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Eva Abbas
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 11, 2016 7:55 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Whatsapp and voiceover
>>
>> Hello listers,
>>
>> I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you
>> please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the
>> applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we
>> install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.
>> For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there
>> someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
>>
>> Thanks for any answer
>>
>> God bless
>> Eva
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Gerardo Corripio]

 While playing an audio message, VO loses focus, having to double-tap 
to stop the message from playing before being able to flick around on 
the screen to go to the other messsages.


El 11/03/2016 11:02 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:


No, Doug Lee is a scrit writer who writes scripts for Jaws, there is 
no provision for scripts in Voiceover.


What exactly is the problem with Whats App, I recently used it and it 
seems to work just fine and I didn’t encounter any accessibility issues.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Eva Abbas

*Sent:* Friday, March 11, 2016 7:55 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Whatsapp and voiceover

Hello listers,

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you 
please.  Is there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the 
applications that are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we 
install an update in whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.  
For example, I know there is Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there 
someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?


Thanks for any answer

God bless
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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi, whatsApp has no difficulties with voiceover whatsoever.
I have the latest version and latest iOS. Please go update.

On 3/12/16, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say
> because of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is
> regarding Sonus that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line
> if you want to discuss something else.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>> Hello listers,
>>
>> I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is
>> there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that
>> are used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in
>> whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there
>> is Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and
>> voiceover?
>> Thanks for any answer
>>
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Re: sound hound vs shazam?

[Arnold Schmidt]

Yes, it can identify a song under those circumstances.  But start listening 
to something over the small speaker in your phone, and ask Siri to identify 
it.  Siri uses the speaker in the phone as a microphone to listen to 
whatever is playing.  When you ask Siri to identify something, Siri is in 
control of what is happening on the phone at the moment, and Siri won't let 
the phone go back to the playing song so that Siri can hear it.  However, 
either Sound Hound or Shazam can identify it while it is playing over that 
speaker, I do not know how, but it can.  No, I do not do a lot of serious 
music listening over that speaker, but if I am listening over my headphones 
and want to know what something is, I need to play it over that speaker so 
Sound Hound or Shazam can hear it.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:56 PM
Subject: RE: sound hound vs shazam?


Hi Arnold,

What exactly do you mean by "it is unable to do it if I am listening via my 
phone's speaker"?
I just played Maggie May by Rod Stewart on my Sonos system in the bedroom. I 
asked SIRI "What song is this", SIRI said "OK, let me listen" and it made 
the beeps again when it's listening and after about 3 or 4 seconds it said 
"I'm pretty sure this is Maggie May by Rod Stewart, but please don't ask me 
to sing it".


Now, there is some inconsistency here because a while back I asked SIRI what 
song was playing and it would persistently tell me the song that was queued 
up to play on my iPhone instead of going into listening mode so it could 
listen to music externally.
Today when I just did this I started playing Hotel California on my iPhone 
and then I asked SIRI again and each time no matter how I asked SIRI would 
start listening wanting to tell me what song it heard instead of telling me 
what was currently playing on my phone. I even asked "What song is currently 
playing on my iPhone" and all to no avail.
I find SIRI does really well identifying songs that are playing externally, 
but I should still be able to ask SIRI what is playing on my phone, too. 
This is just one more example showing on the one hand how smart SIRI can be 
but also how dum and limited it ccan be.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound hound vs shazam?

And, I have observed it work the other way, too.  Unfortunately though, 
there have been more times when neither of them knew what the song was.
When this happened, the skeptic in me wondered if they both used the same 
database? I hope not.]  And if that be true, I am sure neither would admit 
it.


One more reason to have at least one of these apps on your phone:  When I 
ask Siri to identify a song, it is unable to do it if I am listening via my 
phone's speaker.  Both the apps can identify a song when it is playing 
through the phone's speaker.


Arnold Schmidt
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From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: sound hound vs shazam?



Hi,

There have been times when Shazam didn't identify something and Sound
Hound did, so I would recommend having Sound Hound as a backup.

Best,
Anna




On Mar 10, 2016, at 11:45 PM, trahern culver 
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thanks man :)

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