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Re: Radium

2016-11-04 Thread Flor Lynch

I had no issues with Radium when I tried it for the first time in a long 
time on Wednesday after reading the first messages in this thread.


Doesn't the VRStream use ooTunes for its database?

-Original Message- 
From: gs

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Radium

OOTunes has not been updated for years.

On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Shai  wrote:

Hello Mary,
Thank you for your update on that front. Yes, it is indeed too bad. I
am wondering if the OoTunes app is having the same issue? A couple of
days ago I went to try to use this app and I received a message that
this app needs to be updated and by not updating the app and using it
that my iPhone will slow down. I have auto updates turned on for apps
and I did not see any update to it in the store.


On 11/3/16, Mary Otten  wrote:

I got a response to my email to the folks at radium regarding the recent
message that the app needs to be updated for iOS 10, and it is not good
news. Radium, they informed me, is no longer being developed. They did say
they are maintaining their database. They did not specify that it was only
the iPhone app that was not being developed. My question was about that 
app,

but they said nothing at all about the Mac app, no distinction was drawn
between the iPhone app being developed or not and the Mac app being
developed or not. Therefore, I think it means radium development is not
happening on any front. Too bad, as it was a great app but will 
undoubtedly

come up not working at all sooner or later.
Mary


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Re: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store experience

2016-11-04 Thread Richard Turner

No, the one in the Speak To Me catalog does not work with the iPhone. It is a 
stand alone thermometer.
Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 4, 2016, at 3:54 PM, gs 
> wrote:

I just bought the scale and it seems to work well. However, I would caution 
that the app is not as accessible as some might like. True, the measurements 
can be shared with Apple Health and the app can be used with some labeling and 
experimentation. It's not a deal breaker for me since I can access the 
information I need. I am probably going to buy the thermometer as well now that 
I've had success with the scale.

The only thing that concerns me about the thermometer is how it works with 
multiple users. The scale does a good job of associating measurements with the 
proper user since my weight differs significantly from the other member of my 
household. How does the thermometer handle this? I can probably get that 
information from the site but it's really my only concern at this point.

On Nov 3, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I just wanted to briefly post about a new gadget I purchased from the Apple 
Store while I was here in Calgary. The item is the Withings Thermo Smart 
Thermometer meant to measure body temperature. It is rather on the expensive 
side at $109 Canadian (it is $99 US on the Withings website and from what I saw 
it’s the same on Amazon). Of course this actually means we are getting a good 
deal here in Canada since $99 US at the current exchange rate is about $135 
Canadian.
Anyhow, it does seem to be a very nice device, the app is mostly accessible 
although a few times during the setup I had to find a “Next” button by touch 
since I couldn’t swipe to it and it can be integrated with the Health app so 
that your body temperature measurements appear there. I was hoping I could also 
take a look at another thermometer from “Kinsa”, it is an in-ear thermometer 
which is only $69 Canadian, but they didn’t have it in stock and I like the 
fact that with the Withings you just swipe it across your forehead and you can 
be about half an inch away from the skin not even touching and it still works.
The girl who helped me at first showed me the box, I asked if there were any 
way for me to actually feel it and she had no problem opening the box. I then 
mentioned that given the relatively high price there was still the risk that 
the app may not be accessible and she promptly said why don’t we pair it with 
your phone and try it out. You can pair this via Bluetooth or WiFi and since I 
didn’t want to try to do this over the open Apple wireless network at the store 
we did bluetooth. At first we had a heck of a time to get it to work. She then 
went in the back and said she wanted to talk to one fo their guys who might 
know a lot more about it. They came back 5 minutes later and he told me he 
owned the product himself and then showed me how to use it successfully. The 
thermometer does have a display and you can assign measurements to different 
family members, but you can also do this in the app and it all is quite 
accessible. We wre also able to enable this in the Health app, but in order to 
do so we had to use the search feature in the Health app and search for “body 
temperature” and add this to the favourites screen so it’s there and easy to 
find.
The results definitely seem to be accurate and you can of course set the Thermo 
to display in Celsius or Fahrenheit and it’s pretty cool how fast it does this. 
You basically start about in the middle of your forehead and swipe either to 
the left or right to about your tempel, do it nice and slow and by the time you 
get there the Thermo vibrates which means the measurement was taken.
All in all the experience at the Apple Store was fantastic, the service 
outstanding and I ended up buying two of them since the manager of my retail 
store and his girl-friend just had a baby and I thought this would make a good 
present. They received tons of clothing from friends and babies do after all 
get sick and it’s a good thing to have a good thermometer to check their 
temperature. Of course if any of you guys are out on a date you can always 
bring it and swipe it across your dates forehead to see how “hot” she is *bad 
joke*.
Finally, below is a link for the product on the Withings website:
http://www.withings.com/us/en/products/thermo
If anybody owns one of the Kinsa in-ear thermometers maybe they can post their 
experience and feedback since it is a less expensive option.

I think the next health and fitness item on our list is the Withings smart 
scale, it seems to be one of the better ones out there compared to the other 
major brands such as Fitbit, Qardio and so on.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Yes it is.

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> On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> The 10.2 update doesn’t show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy > > wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
 On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy > wrote:
  
 I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
 having.
 
 Regards, 
 Feliciano
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 On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson > wrote:
 
> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
> between 4 and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
> was no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Radium

2016-11-04 Thread gs

OOTunes has not been updated for years.

On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Shai  wrote:

Hello Mary,
Thank you for your update on that front. Yes, it is indeed too bad. I
am wondering if the OoTunes app is having the same issue? A couple of
days ago I went to try to use this app and I received a message that
this app needs to be updated and by not updating the app and using it
that my iPhone will slow down. I have auto updates turned on for apps
and I did not see any update to it in the store.


On 11/3/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I got a response to my email to the folks at radium regarding the recent
> message that the app needs to be updated for iOS 10, and it is not good
> news. Radium, they informed me, is no longer being developed. They did say
> they are maintaining their database. They did not specify that it was only
> the iPhone app that was not being developed. My question was about that app,
> but they said nothing at all about the Mac app, no distinction was drawn
> between the iPhone app being developed or not and the Mac app being
> developed or not. Therefore, I think it means radium development is not
> happening on any front. Too bad, as it was a great app but will undoubtedly
> come up not working at all sooner or later.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

2016-11-04 Thread gs

Sieghard -
I am going to look into this because I do have a third generation that's going 
to go to waste if I upgrade. I have experimented with Cody under Windows but 
the speech was clunky and did not work for everything at the time. I do not 
know if there have been improvements since then. There was no way to use it 
under OS X with Voiceover at the time I was looking at it. Having it on an 
Apple TV would be great!

On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

There is no official Kodi app you can simply download, if there were of course 
there would be no reason why companies would sell an Apple TV with Kodi 
installed for an upcharge. It would appear that you can sideload Kodi using 
Xcode, of course this is probably something a lot of people can't do because I 
believe you definitely need a Mac for this so if you are a PC user as far as I 
know this is not possible.
Apparently all of us with an old Apple TV 2 could jailbreak it and install Kodi 
on it and hence have an accessible box with Kodi. Something I may look into.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

HI Chris, I have found a company here in the UK, where the new apple 4 tv can 
be purchased with Kodi already installed, or Kodi can be installed for you on 
an existent apple tv. The apple tv with Kodi is costed at £185 and for an 
existent apple tv £25 for Kodi to be installed, Billy



 On 02/11/2016 20:44, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> I got mine from Apple directly but am sure that's not the only place you can 
> get it from. There is one certain exception and that is Amazon who claims it 
> is for competitive reasons they are not allowing the sale of Apple TV.
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2016, at 14:10, Billy Inglis  wrote:
>> 
>> hi guys, Just wondering, if Apple is the only place I can purchase an 
>> Apple tv here in the UK?, bBilly
>> 
>> On 31/10/2016 19:54, Terri Stimmel wrote:
>>> Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the 
>>> subject. I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you 
>>> had to say. It really made me think, and it's making this process just a 
>>> bit more easier for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing 
>>> for me, because I don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I 
>>> am starting to like more updates, as that usually makes things better. Even 
>>> if you have to wait for another update, to get some bugs fixed sometimes.
>>> 
>>> But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer 
>>> Apple TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream 
>>> from your TV, set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes sense. 
>>> But I don't, as I have said before. So I guess this must put me in the 
>>> minority.
>>> 
>>> If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how 
>>> to make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, 
>>> but that is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to change 
>>> about one's self.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank you 
>>> so very much for the advice.
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach" 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is what I would go with since you don't want music, games, or books, 
>>> the 32 gig would be the way to go for $149.
>>> 
>>> From: Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?
>>> 
>>> Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And 
>>> if money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and 
>>> probably cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 
>>> GB model. Just don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps 
>>> are not large. We have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out 
>>> of space. Just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody,
>>> 
>>> I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this 
>>> was really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not 
>>> bother me.
>>> 
>>> They are asking $470.
>>> 
>>> What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking 
>>> for $170.
>>> What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
>>> I unfortunately got installed the

Re: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store experience

2016-11-04 Thread gs

I just bought the scale and it seems to work well. However, I would caution 
that the app is not as accessible as some might like. True, the measurements 
can be shared with Apple Health and the app can be used with some labeling and 
experimentation. It's not a deal breaker for me since I can access the 
information I need. I am probably going to buy the thermometer as well now that 
I've had success with the scale.

The only thing that concerns me about the thermometer is how it works with 
multiple users. The scale does a good job of associating measurements with the 
proper user since my weight differs significantly from the other member of my 
household. How does the thermometer handle this? I can probably get that 
information from the site but it's really my only concern at this point.



On Nov 3, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Listers,
 
I just wanted to briefly post about a new gadget I purchased from the Apple 
Store while I was here in Calgary. The item is the Withings Thermo Smart 
Thermometer meant to measure body temperature. It is rather on the expensive 
side at $109 Canadian (it is $99 US on the Withings website and from what I saw 
it’s the same on Amazon). Of course this actually means we are getting a good 
deal here in Canada since $99 US at the current exchange rate is about $135 
Canadian.
Anyhow, it does seem to be a very nice device, the app is mostly accessible 
although a few times during the setup I had to find a “Next” button by touch 
since I couldn’t swipe to it and it can be integrated with the Health app so 
that your body temperature measurements appear there. I was hoping I could also 
take a look at another thermometer from “Kinsa”, it is an in-ear thermometer 
which is only $69 Canadian, but they didn’t have it in stock and I like the 
fact that with the Withings you just swipe it across your forehead and you can 
be about half an inch away from the skin not even touching and it still works.
The girl who helped me at first showed me the box, I asked if there were any 
way for me to actually feel it and she had no problem opening the box. I then 
mentioned that given the relatively high price there was still the risk that 
the app may not be accessible and she promptly said why don’t we pair it with 
your phone and try it out. You can pair this via Bluetooth or WiFi and since I 
didn’t want to try to do this over the open Apple wireless network at the store 
we did bluetooth. At first we had a heck of a time to get it to work. She then 
went in the back and said she wanted to talk to one fo their guys who might 
know a lot more about it. They came back 5 minutes later and he told me he 
owned the product himself and then showed me how to use it successfully. The 
thermometer does have a display and you can assign measurements to different 
family members, but you can also do this in the app and it all is quite 
accessible. We wre also able to enable this in the Health app, but in order to 
do so we had to use the search feature in the Health app and search for “body 
temperature” and add this to the favourites screen so it’s there and easy to 
find.
The results definitely seem to be accurate and you can of course set the Thermo 
to display in Celsius or Fahrenheit and it’s pretty cool how fast it does this. 
You basically start about in the middle of your forehead and swipe either to 
the left or right to about your tempel, do it nice and slow and by the time you 
get there the Thermo vibrates which means the measurement was taken.
All in all the experience at the Apple Store was fantastic, the service 
outstanding and I ended up buying two of them since the manager of my retail 
store and his girl-friend just had a baby and I thought this would make a good 
present. They received tons of clothing from friends and babies do after all 
get sick and it’s a good thing to have a good thermometer to check their 
temperature. Of course if any of you guys are out on a date you can always 
bring it and swipe it across your dates forehead to see how “hot” she is *bad 
joke*.
Finally, below is a link for the product on the Withings website:
http://www.withings.com/us/en/products/thermo 

If anybody owns one of the Kinsa in-ear thermometers maybe they can post their 
experience and feedback since it is a less expensive option.
 
I think the next health and fitness item on our list is the Withings smart 
scale, it seems to be one of the better ones out there compared to the other 
major brands such as Fitbit, Qardio and so on.
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

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Re: Bluetooth ear buds without noise cancellation [was "Re: Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening"]

2016-11-04 Thread SSEric

I just got the Bose sound sport Bluetooth earbuds last week. Their design has 
only slight passive sound isolation. They use a flange on the bud that expands 
to close off the ear canal. They do not go into the ear canal, though. I have 
wondered if one cut that flange away, circumcise it, as it were, if it would 
remove that bit of isolation. Haven't tried it yet.



Eric
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On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Just curious, but I have a few around the head bluetooth headphones without any 
noise cancellation, Are there any ear bud type bluetooth headphones that have 
no passive noise cancellation? I'd love an ear bud like form factor and yet 
still be able to hear those around me. I know I can just use one of the two ear 
buds, but ideally, I'd like to keep my stereoness and still listen to what's 
going on around me.

> On 29/10/16 13:34, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Hey, I heard the delay is due to the Ear Pods blowing up. Kidding of
> course. Just a little warning for all of you who are planning on getting
> these and are like me. I use bluetooth ear buds now a lot of the time
> with one ear bud in so I can hear what is going around me with the other
> ear. I read a tear down about the Ear Pods and they have an Auto Pause
> feature which automatically kicks in when you take one ear pod out. I
> would want to make sure you can override or turn that auto pause feature
> off if you cannot listen to anything with one ear bud out. I do not want
> to panic anyone about this just thinking you may want to check these out
> in stores until we learn if you can use these with only one ear pod in.
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:43 PM, SSEric > > wrote:
>> 
>> This week I received a pair of Bose SoundSport earbuds. They are much
>> like most earbuds, except they have the Bose StayHere tips that really
>> keep the buds in place. They do sound pretty good. The base is good,
>> although the middle and highs could be a little flat. I am no
>> audiophile, though. They have one button on one bud for power. On the
>> connecting cable, there is the Apple style controls. They come with
>> the regular size tips in place. Changing to the small size really made
>> a difference in sound and comfort. They are $150. I bought them with
>> the idea I could try them until the Apple EarPods were released and
>> then decide which I would prefer. I guess that is out. These are
>> probably keepers, though I would really have to like the Apple buds to
>> be comfortable with them being separate. It seems like an invitation
>> to lose one. I have heard them described as much like the current
>> EarPods. Those I do not like, particularly for their material. They
>> never feel as though they will stay in my ear.
>> 
>> Eric
>> sseri...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Jenifer Barr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary. Dang, I was really looking forward to these! Lol and I
>> don't even have a 7! Oh well... I'll wait.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the article, Mary, I just Googled this a few days ago and
>>> there was nothing at the time. I for one really look forward to these
>>> and I’m a bit disappointed because I was hoping they would hit the
>>> shelves in the next few days while I am still in Calgary and near an
>>> Apple Store. Of course I for once applaud Apple on deciding to delay
>>> the launch if there are still issues to be resolved, better this way
>>> than to release the product half baked so to speak. Probably even
>>> more disappointing for people who bought the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus and
>>> who are really looking forward t6o an excellent bluetooth
>>> earpiece/headset.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:03 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>>> ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
>>> 
>>> *Subject:* Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening
>>> 
>>> *Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening*
>>> MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
>>> 
>>> When Apple debuted its AirPods in September, the company said the
>>> wireless earbuds would launch in late October. Now that it's late
>>> October, people have been wondering if a release is imminent, but as
>>> it turns out, the AirPods are delayed.
>>> 
>>> Apple today told /TechCrunch/ that it needs "a little more time"
>>> before the AirPods are ready for a public release, without specifying
>>> the reason behind the

Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread ‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎

Hi inorder to rich to the setup screen you can use the  3fingers swipe left and 
the setup screen wil be show. you don't have to use the hello screen. it does 
makes it more complex.

if you need mre help i can help to you in skype call or WhatsApp call to help 
you with this.Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-4 בנוב׳ 2016, בשעה 22:19, ‏‏evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone 
‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Would you please explain what should I do?
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
> Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
> -Original Message- From: Afik Sofir
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 4:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> You have to complite the process.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> How can I return to normal to be able to use the phone?
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
> Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
> -Original Message- From: Afik Sofir
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> Hi,
> 
> No, I don’t think so.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> Is there any way to return to the hello? Now I find choose wifi network,
> something about location, and the edit field to type password.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
> Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays
> the Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has
> nothing to do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the
> messagee when it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least
> go to a screen where you can select your country and language.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Afik Sofir
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You have to double tap on hello in english.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in
> different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to
> agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
> Any help, please? Thank you,
> Rena
> 
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Re: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store experience

2016-11-04 Thread Andy Baracco

I have the one from Speak2me but i question its accuracy.

Andy

From: Robert Doc Wright 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 4:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store 
experience
Speak 2 me has one for under $50.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:25 PM
  Subject: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store 
experience

  Hi Listers,

  I just wanted to briefly post about a new gadget I purchased from the Apple 
Store while I was here in Calgary. The item is the Withings Thermo Smart 
Thermometer meant to measure body temperature. It is rather on the expensive 
side at $109 Canadian (it is $99 US on the Withings website and from what I saw 
it’s the same on Amazon). Of course this actually means we are getting a good 
deal here in Canada since $99 US at the current exchange rate is about $135 
Canadian.

  Anyhow, it does seem to be a very nice device, the app is mostly accessible 
although a few times during the setup I had to find a “Next” button by touch 
since I couldn’t swipe to it and it can be integrated with the Health app so 
that your body temperature measurements appear there. I was hoping I could also 
take a look at another thermometer from “Kinsa”, it is an in-ear thermometer 
which is only $69 Canadian, but they didn’t have it in stock and I like the 
fact that with the Withings you just swipe it across your forehead and you can 
be about half an inch away from the skin not even touching and it still works.

  The girl who helped me at first showed me the box, I asked if there were any 
way for me to actually feel it and she had no problem opening the box. I then 
mentioned that given the relatively high price there was still the risk that 
the app may not be accessible and she promptly said why don’t we pair it with 
your phone and try it out. You can pair this via Bluetooth or WiFi and since I 
didn’t want to try to do this over the open Apple wireless network at the store 
we did bluetooth. At first we had a heck of a time to get it to work. She then 
went in the back and said she wanted to talk to one fo their guys who might 
know a lot more about it. They came back 5 minutes later and he told me he 
owned the product himself and then showed me how to use it successfully. The 
thermometer does have a display and you can assign measurements to different 
family members, but you can also do this in the app and it all is quite 
accessible. We wre also able to enable this in the Health app, but in order to 
do so we had to use the search feature in the Health app and search for “body 
temperature” and add this to the favourites screen so it’s there and easy to 
find.

  The results definitely seem to be accurate and you can of course set the 
Thermo to display in Celsius or Fahrenheit and it’s pretty cool how fast it 
does this. You basically start about in the middle of your forehead and swipe 
either to the left or right to about your tempel, do it nice and slow and by 
the time you get there the Thermo vibrates which means the measurement was 
taken.

  All in all the experience at the Apple Store was fantastic, the service 
outstanding and I ended up buying two of them since the manager of my retail 
store and his girl-friend just had a baby and I thought this would make a good 
present. They received tons of clothing from friends and babies do after all 
get sick and it’s a good thing to have a good thermometer to check their 
temperature. Of course if any of you guys are out on a date you can always 
bring it and swipe it across your dates forehead to see how “hot” she is *bad 
joke*.

  Finally, below is a link for the product on the Withings website:

  http://www.withings.com/us/en/products/thermo

  If anybody owns one of the Kinsa in-ear thermometers maybe they can post 
their experience and feedback since it is a less expensive option.

  I think the next health and fitness item on our list is the Withings smart 
scale, it seems to be one of the better ones out there compared to the other 
major brands such as Fitbit, Qardio and so on.

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

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Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone


Would you please explain what should I do?



http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Afik Sofir

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

You have to complite the process.


-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

How can I return to normal to be able to use the phone?



http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Afik Sofir

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

No, I don’t think so.



-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

Is there any way to return to the hello? Now I find choose wifi network,
something about location, and the edit field to type password.




http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays
the Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has
nothing to do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the
messagee when it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least
go to a screen where you can select your country and language.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.


-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
Any help, please? Thank you,
Rena


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RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread Afik Sofir

You have to complite the process.

-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

How can I return to normal to be able to use the phone?

http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Afik Sofir
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

No, I don’t think so.

-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

Is there any way to return to the hello? Now I find choose wifi network,
something about location, and the edit field to type password.

http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays
the Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has
nothing to do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the
messagee when it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least
go to a screen where you can select your country and language.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.

-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
Any help, please? Thank you,
Rena

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Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone


How can I return to normal to be able to use the phone?



http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Afik Sofir

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

No, I don’t think so.



-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

Is there any way to return to the hello? Now I find choose wifi network,
something about location, and the edit field to type password.




http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays
the Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has
nothing to do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the
messagee when it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least
go to a screen where you can select your country and language.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.


-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
Any help, please? Thank you,
Rena


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RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread Afik Sofir

Hi,

No, I don’t think so.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

Is there any way to return to the hello? Now I find choose wifi network, 
something about location, and the edit field to type password.




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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays 
the Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has 
nothing to do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the 
messagee when it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least 
go to a screen where you can select your country and language.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
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Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.


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Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in 
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to 
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
Any help, please? Thank you,
Rena


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Re: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone

Is there any way to return to the hello? Now I find choose wifi network, 
something about location, and the edit field to type password.





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-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays 
the Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has 
nothing to do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the 
messagee when it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least 
go to a screen where you can select your country and language.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.


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From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in 
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to 
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.

Any help, please? Thank you,
Rena


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Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread christopher hallsworth

Can't be. I've not seen anything to support Apple working on a new Apple TV. I 
do use blogs like IDB, but totally rely on Apple's words in order to believe 
it. Until then, I believe it when i see it.
> On 4 Nov 2016, at 09:43, billy inglis  wrote:
> 
> hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the market 
> next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy
> 
> On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:
>> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
>> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
>> investigate what is available in South Africa.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kliphton Miller
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
>> 
>> Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
>> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or 
>> direct.  Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to 
>> share there info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on 
>> it.  My favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie 
>> collection to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on 
>> for Plex or some other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t 
>> have to convert my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse 
>> will stream them.  The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need 
>> sited help to control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen 
>> so we can control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, 
>> including the network TV apps at that have on demand content.
>> 
>>  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hello Sieghard and list
>>  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
>> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music 
>> and movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. 
>> can one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
>>  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
>> wants to access the tv.
>>  Regards
>>  Fanus
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>  Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>> 
>>  Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
>> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for 
>> easier typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV 
>> completely with a bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if 
>> there is a way to invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.
>> 
>> 
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>> 
>>  Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I 
>> really appreciate it.
>> 
>> 
>>  I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
>>  But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!
>> 
>> 
>>  My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
>>  telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
>>  it over.
>> 
>>  I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
>>  difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
>>  clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!
>> 
>>  The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
>>  set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.
>> 
>> 
>>  Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and
>>  connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near
>>  the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was
>>  flawless.
>> 
>> 
>>  I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure
>>  what to do.
>> 
>> 
>>  How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?
>> 
>>  Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to
>>  download them on to the Apple TV?
>> 
>>  I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't
>>  know where to look.
>> 
>> 
>>  Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv
>>  shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?
>> 
>>  Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to
>>  search for such things.
>> 
>>  I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps
>>  just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.
>> 
>> 
>>  Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and
>>  not just articles?
>> 
>>  I know NPR has a news app.
>> 
>> 
>>

Re: Internet browser on Apple TV

2016-11-04 Thread christopher hallsworth

It's an integrated development environment for the mac, kind of like Visual 
Studio.net is on Windows. 
> On 4 Nov 2016, at 15:13, Gianni  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have experiences with this? What is Xcode?
> 
> 
> Gianni
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Op 4-nov.-2016 om 13:29 heeft Ben Mustill-Rose  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are actually browsers available for it but you have to install
>> them yourself via Xcode. I haven't tried any of them.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>> On 11/4/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> This is one of the things I am surprised about. I would have thought Apple
>>> by now would have released a Safari app for the Apple TV. I can only assume
>>> they are also not allowing companies like Firefox or Atomic to make web
>>> browsers for the Apple TV for some reason.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Ben Mustill-Rose
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:51 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Internet browser on Apple TV
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It's possible in a round about way but it doesn't support flash.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ben.
>>> 
>>> On 11/3/16, MamaPeach  wrote:
 There is no internet browser.
 
 From: Gianni
 Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Internet browser on Apple TV
 
 Hello everyone,
 I have a question about the apple tv. Is it already possible to install
 an
 internet browser on the latest Apple tv? If yes, can you play websites
 with
 flash on it?
 
 
 
 Gianni
 
 
 Skype: giannijuve
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Rajmund

Hi,
Yes, it is.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 4, 2016 6:38 pm
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

>
>
> The 10.2 update doesn't show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you'd like to try this to 
> see if it's a bug they've already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I'm currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I'll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn't be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
>  
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano 
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> Hello Feliciano,
>  
> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
>  
> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano 
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
> and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
> no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I've reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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RE: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Larry,

Kodi is the software that is on all these Android TV boxes you can buy for $80 
to $150 and which let you watch a bunch of TV programs for free.

Here is a bit from their website and the link:
Kodi® (formerly known as XBMC™) is an award-winning free and open source (GPL) 
software media center for playing videos, music, pictures, games, and more.
Kodi runs on Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, and Android, featuring a 10-foot user 
interface for use with televisions and remote controls.
It allows users to play and view most videos, music, podcasts, and other 
digital media files from local and network storage media and the internet.
https://kodi.tv/about/

Regards,
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RE: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

2016-11-04 Thread Alan Lemly

Hi Mary,

 

I'm awfully sorry you've had all the problems with Voice Dream Reader. Your 
experience has cautioned me against turning on iCloud sync in Voice Dream and I 
just want to thank you for that. I've not had any problems with the app but I 
only use it on one device so iCloud sync is not something I need.

 

I really hope you get it sorted and working to your satisfaction.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

 

Hi Ari, 

No, I haven't tried turning off iCloud sink yet. I almost did it last night, 
then got cold feet and figured I would wait to hear from Winston. I have also 
had that problem that you talked about where the speech goes away and text 
continues to scroll. Mostly, it's on my iPad. In fact, I can't remember a 
single instance since I got my 7+ of having it happen there. I thought it might 
have to do with a slower iPad plus less memory and the iPad. But of course I 
don't know. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 4, 2016, at 8:23 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, Mary,

 

 

You've probably tried all this before, but I thought I might put it out there 
anyhow. Have you tried turning off iCloud sync off for both devices, then 
enabling it on your iPhone, for a day or two while keeping it off on your iPad 
for that time, then turning it back on after those two days? Just a thought. It 
might just joggle things in to place. I'm so sorry you've been having so many 
issues with VDR. I have some issues with it stopping reading, but the text 
continuing to scroll, and then the voice starting up again seconds later. I 
wrote Winston about this, and he recommended deleting and reinstalling the 
library. I haven't done this so far, because I have a big library, like you. I 
hardly ever delete anything, and I have most things in folders. I'm kind of 
nervous to find out what will happen to my library after deleting it and 
bringing it back with iCloud sync.

 

Anyhow, I really hope you get things sorted.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Good idea. Since we got the new text selection and copy features back in iOS 9, 
I have really not thought about that clipboard copy feature. I never really 
used it much anyway. But this would be a good time for it. If Winston doesn't 
understand what I'm talking about with my approximation, I will definitely send 
him the exact message. It's easy to duplicate, since I have a lot of books and 
they are all displaying this problem. I can not understand why bunches of books 
that all look just fine all have the same problem. I can't believe I have that 
bad of a connection over that much time.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Mary,

 

If you can reproduce the error message try letting Voiceover read the entire 
thing and then use a 3-finger quadruple tap to copy the last spoken message to 
your clipboard. You could, of course, use one of your iDevices to record the 
message as Voiceover reads it on the other one.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

 

Hi Richard,
I wasn't able to send the exact error message to Winston, because they select 
text feature didn't work there, much to my great sorrow. So all I could do was 
send him an approximation. I guess I just don't have a voice dream reader luck. 
This app has been so much trouble ever since the big update. I just kind of 
wish I'd never gone there.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Mary,

I just opened 5 books from bookshare that I had downloaded a month or more ago, 
but had not started reading. I updated Voice Dream when the update came out.

I have had no issues like yours at all. They all read just fine.

I know you will probably already have done this, but for sure send the error 
message to Winston and see if he has any idea what would cause that.

It sounds like an incomplete download or a internet connection issue.

But, that is speculating far out of my league.

Richard

 

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

(Sent from my iPod 6)


On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have to say, I am really disgusted with this app, which used to be so 
reliable, before the update, and now before this most recent update. I wonder 
if anyone has run across the following problem. If you are a book share user, 
and you have downloaded books before the most recent update, and you have 
iCloud sink in abled, what happens if you try to

voice over crashing

2016-11-04 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan

Hi all.  It seems that I loose voice over at least once a day.  There
doesn't seem to be a pattern.  It just disappears.  I can have Siri turn
voice over off and back on again and that solves the problem at least
temporarily.  Since I was having huge battery drain issues, I wiped the
phone and set it back up as a new phone.  The problem still exists.  Any
thoughts would be helpful.  It's workable, but really annoying.   Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan

The 10.2 update doesn’t show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

 

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards, 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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RE: Searching for movies

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Are you talking about iTunes on a PC or Mac or on the iPhone?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Searching for movies

How do you search  for a movie on itunes?  I selected the movie  tab. Then I 
selected the search tab and typed in my   ''  search. I kept getting music 
matches.  Talk about being confounded by the simple.   

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RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Just ddouble tap anywhere, the language doesn't matter, it simply displays the 
Hello message in a number of languages which cycle around, this has nothing to 
do with the language your iPhone uses. If you doble tap on the messagee when 
it's in German it will still come  up in English or at least go to a screen 
where you can select your country and language. 

Regards,
Sieghard

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Afik Sofir
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in 
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to agree 
or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
Any help, please? Thank you,
Rena 


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RE: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store experience

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

But is that a thermometer which connects to iOS devices where readings can be 
saved/recorded in the Health app or is it simply a talking body thermometer?

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experience

Speak 2 me has one for under $50.
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Subject: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store experience

Hi Listers,

I just wanted to briefly post about a new gadget I purchased from the Apple 
Store while I was here in Calgary. The item is the Withings Thermo Smart 
Thermometer meant to measure body temperature. It is rather on the expensive 
side at $109 Canadian (it is $99 US on the Withings website and from what I saw 
it’s the same on Amazon). Of course this actually means we are getting a good 
deal here in Canada since $99 US at the current exchange rate is about $135 
Canadian.
Anyhow, it does seem to be a very nice device, the app is mostly accessible 
although a few times during the setup I had to find a “Next” button by touch 
since I couldn’t swipe to it and it can be integrated with the Health app so 
that your body temperature measurements appear there. I was hoping I could also 
take a look at another thermometer from “Kinsa”, it is an in-ear thermometer 
which is only $69 Canadian, but they didn’t have it in stock and I like the 
fact that with the Withings you just swipe it across your forehead and you can 
be about half an inch away from the skin not even touching and it still works.
The girl who helped me at first showed me the box, I asked if there were any 
way for me to actually feel it and she had no problem opening the box. I then 
mentioned that given the relatively high price there was still the risk that 
the app may not be accessible and she promptly said why don’t we pair it with 
your phone and try it out. You can pair this via Bluetooth or WiFi and since I 
didn’t want to try to do this over the open Apple wireless network at the store 
we did bluetooth. At first we had a heck of a time to get it to work. She then 
went in the back and said she wanted to talk to one fo their guys who might 
know a lot more about it. They came back 5 minutes later and he told me he 
owned the product himself and then showed me how to use it successfully. The 
thermometer does have a display and you can assign measurements to different 
family members, but you can also do this in the app and it all is quite 
accessible. We wre also able to enable this in the Health app, but in order to 
do so we had to use the search feature in the Health app and search for “body 
temperature” and add this to the favourites screen so it’s there and easy to 
find.
The results definitely seem to be accurate and you can of course set the Thermo 
to display in Celsius or Fahrenheit and it’s pretty cool how fast it does this. 
You basically start about in the middle of your forehead and swipe either to 
the left or right to about your tempel, do it nice and slow and by the time you 
get there the Thermo vibrates which means the measurement was taken.
All in all the experience at the Apple Store was fantastic, the service 
outstanding and I ended up buying two of them since the manager of my retail 
store and his girl-friend just had a baby and I thought this would make a good 
present. They received tons of clothing from friends and babies do after all 
get sick and it’s a good thing to have a good thermometer to check their 
temperature. Of course if any of you guys are out on a date you can always 
bring it and swipe it across your dates forehead to see how “hot” she is *bad 
joke*.
Finally, below is a link for the product on the Withings website:
http://www.withings.com/us/en/products/thermo
If anybody owns one of the Kinsa in-ear thermometers maybe they can post their 
experience and feedback since it is a less expensive option.

I think the next health and fitness item on our list is the Withings smart 
scale, it seems to be one of the better ones out there compared to the other 
major brands such as Fitbit, Qardio and so on.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Tim Cook and a few others at Apple could answer that question, but they of 
course won't and everything else is complete speculation and guessing. I assume 
it is possible that they may release an update since I believe the current 
model does not support 4K and it would make sense with that technology becoming 
more purvasive that Apple would release an Apple TV that supports it. 

Regards,
Sieghard

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billy inglis
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the market next 
year sometime. Is this right?, Billy

On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:
> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
> investigate what is available in South Africa.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> From: Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
>
> Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct. 
>  Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share 
> there info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
> favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection 
> to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or 
> some other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert 
> my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them. 
>  The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to 
> control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can 
> control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the 
> network TV apps at that have on demand content.
>
>   On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus  wrote:
>
>   Hello Sieghard and list
>   Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
> movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can 
> one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
>   I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
> wants to access the tv.
>   Regards
>   Fanus
>
>
>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>   Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>
>   Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
> typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
> bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
> invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.
>
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Terri Stimmel
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>
>   Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I 
> really appreciate it.
>
>
>   I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
>   But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!
>
>
>   My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
>   telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
>   it over.
>
>   I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
>   difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
>   clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!
>
>   The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
>   set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.
>
>
>   Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and
>   connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near
>   the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was
>   flawless.
>
>
>   I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure
>   what to do.
>
>
>   How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?
>
>   Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to
>   download them on to the Apple TV?
>
>   I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't
>   know where to look.
>
>
>   Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv
>   shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?
>
>   Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to
>   search for such things.
>
>   I'd like to find apps that are pretty

RE: iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread Afik Sofir

Hi,

You have to double tap on hello in english.


-Original Message-
From: evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S update problem question

Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in 
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to 
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.
Any help, please? Thank you,
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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

This would mean just to do a power cycle, turn off the phone completely, wait 
about 30 seconds and then turn it on again.
I rarely find a reason to use the power button + home key combination to to a 
hard reboot.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hi Sieghard,

just to clarify, when you say reboot, do you mean, turning your handset off and 
back on again, or a hard reboot, with the power and home key?

Dave.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne

On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange 
> wrote:

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

Chip

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

Chip

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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iPhone 6S update problem question

2016-11-04 Thread evergreenwoods66 via VIPhone


Hello,

I just installed the latest update in my iPhone 6s, and now it says hello in 
different languages. I don't use any password. I don't find any button to 
agree or accept the update, or return the phone to normal.

Any help, please? Thank you,
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Re: Radium

2016-11-04 Thread Shai

Hello Mary,
Thank you for your update on that front. Yes, it is indeed too bad. I
am wondering if the OoTunes app is having the same issue? A couple of
days ago I went to try to use this app and I received a message that
this app needs to be updated and by not updating the app and using it
that my iPhone will slow down. I have auto updates turned on for apps
and I did not see any update to it in the store.


On 11/3/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I got a response to my email to the folks at radium regarding the recent
> message that the app needs to be updated for iOS 10, and it is not good
> news. Radium, they informed me, is no longer being developed. They did say
> they are maintaining their database. They did not specify that it was only
> the iPhone app that was not being developed. My question was about that app,
> but they said nothing at all about the Mac app, no distinction was drawn
> between the iPhone app being developed or not and the Mac app being
> developed or not. Therefore, I think it means radium development is not
> happening on any front. Too bad, as it was a great app but will undoubtedly
> come up not working at all sooner or later.
> Mary
>
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Typing on a Braille Display

2016-11-04 Thread kelby carlson

When I enter an edit field to type something using my braille display,
how do I escape the current context of typing once I've inputted what
I need to?

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Searching for movies

2016-11-04 Thread brian albriton

How do you search  for a movie on itunes?  I selected the movie  tab. Then I 
selected the search tab and typed in my   ''  search. I kept getting music 
matches.  Talk about being confounded by the simple.   

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Re: Radium

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Chaffin

Hello, I will also continue to use Radium as long as it works!  I have not had 
any problems so far, but it is sad to know that it is no longer being updated.
Since I primarily use it to listen to my Sirius XM stations, I went searching 
the app store to see if there were any other apps out there that will do the 
same thing.  And to my dismay, I could not find any third party apps out there 
that streams subscription internet radio stations like Sirius XM.
To bad an app something like Tune In would not add a feature like that to 
listen to subscription based internet radio stations.  That way everything 
would be included in one app.

Chris


> On Nov 4, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> As long as it works, I will keep using it. I don't know about ootunes, as I 
> haven't used it in years. Wasn't there a thing where Apple was going to start 
> taking lots of apps out of the store that had been updated in a certain 
> amount of time? That might will apply to ootunes. So you might want to keep a 
> back up of that around if you're still using it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:21 PM, BBS  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh well. I'll still use the app even if it's not being developed anymore. 
>> It's still far more accessible than the native Sirius XM app. And besides, 
>> look at Ootunes. It hasn't been updated in god knows how long and I'm 
>> betting that it still works with iOS 10.
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
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>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 6:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org; 
>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Radium
>> 
>> I got a response to my email to the folks at radium regarding the recent 
>> message that the app needs to be updated for iOS 10, and it is not good 
>> news. Radium, they informed me, is no longer being developed. They did say 
>> they are maintaining their database. They did not specify that it was only 
>> the iPhone app that was not being developed. My question was about that app, 
>> but they said nothing at all about the Mac app, no distinction was drawn 
>> between the iPhone app being developed or not and the Mac app being 
>> developed or not. Therefore, I think it means radium development is not 
>> happening on any front. Too bad, as it was a great app but will undoubtedly 
>> come up not working at all sooner or later.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

2016-11-04 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Ari, 
No, I haven't tried turning off iCloud sink yet. I almost did it last night, 
then got cold feet and figured I would wait to hear from Winston. I have also 
had that problem that you talked about where the speech goes away and text 
continues to scroll. Mostly, it's on my iPad. In fact, I can't remember a 
single instance since I got my 7+ of having it happen there. I thought it might 
have to do with a slower iPad plus less memory and the iPad. But of course I 
don't know. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2016, at 8:23 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mary,
> 
> 
> You've probably tried all this before, but I thought I might put it out there 
> anyhow. Have you tried turning off iCloud sync off for both devices, then 
> enabling it on your iPhone, for a day or two while keeping it off on your 
> iPad for that time, then turning it back on after those two days? Just a 
> thought. It might just joggle things in to place. I'm so sorry you've been 
> having so many issues with VDR. I have some issues with it stopping reading, 
> but the text continuing to scroll, and then the voice starting up again 
> seconds later. I wrote Winston about this, and he recommended deleting and 
> reinstalling the library. I haven't done this so far, because I have a big 
> library, like you. I hardly ever delete anything, and I have most things in 
> folders. I'm kind of nervous to find out what will happen to my library after 
> deleting it and bringing it back with iCloud sync.
> 
> Anyhow, I really hope you get things sorted.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Good idea. Since we got the new text selection and copy features back in iOS 
>> 9, I have really not thought about that clipboard copy feature. I never 
>> really used it much anyway. But this would be a good time for it. If Winston 
>> doesn't understand what I'm talking about with my approximation, I will 
>> definitely send him the exact message. It's easy to duplicate, since I have 
>> a lot of books and they are all displaying this problem. I can not 
>> understand why bunches of books that all look just fine all have the same 
>> problem. I can't believe I have that bad of a connection over that much time.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>>  
>>> If you can reproduce the error message try letting Voiceover read the 
>>> entire thing and then use a 3-finger quadruple tap to copy the last spoken 
>>> message to your clipboard. You could, of course, use one of your iDevices 
>>> to record the message as Voiceover reads it on the other one.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense
>>>  
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> I wasn't able to send the exact error message to Winston, because they 
>>> select text feature didn't work there, much to my great sorrow. So all I 
>>> could do was send him an approximation. I guess I just don't have a voice 
>>> dream reader luck. This app has been so much trouble ever since the big 
>>> update. I just kind of wish I'd never gone there.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> I just opened 5 books from bookshare that I had downloaded a month or more 
>>> ago, but had not started reading. I updated Voice Dream when the update 
>>> came out.
>>> I have had no issues like yours at all. They all read just fine.
>>> I know you will probably already have done this, but for sure send the 
>>> error message to Winston and see if he has any idea what would cause that.
>>> It sounds like an incomplete download or a internet connection issue.
>>> But, that is speculating far out of my league.
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
>>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>>>  
>>>  
>>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have to say, I am really disgusted with this app, which used to be so 
>>> reliable, before the update, and now before this most recent update. I 
>>> wonder if anyone has run across the following problem. If you are a book 
>>> share user, and you have downloaded books before the most recent update, 
>>> and you have iCloud sink in abled, what happens if you try to open a book 
>>> share book which looks like it should be OK according to the listing in 
>>> voice dream reader. That is, your book says the title and the author and 
>>> the fact that it is a daisy book and 0% read, assuming you haven't read any 
>>> of it. Double tap on this, and you get an error message saying that the

Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

2016-11-04 Thread englishrider91

Hi, Mary,


You've probably tried all this before, but I thought I might put it out there 
anyhow. Have you tried turning off iCloud sync off for both devices, then 
enabling it on your iPhone, for a day or two while keeping it off on your iPad 
for that time, then turning it back on after those two days? Just a thought. It 
might just joggle things in to place. I'm so sorry you've been having so many 
issues with VDR. I have some issues with it stopping reading, but the text 
continuing to scroll, and then the voice starting up again seconds later. I 
wrote Winston about this, and he recommended deleting and reinstalling the 
library. I haven't done this so far, because I have a big library, like you. I 
hardly ever delete anything, and I have most things in folders. I'm kind of 
nervous to find out what will happen to my library after deleting it and 
bringing it back with iCloud sync.

Anyhow, I really hope you get things sorted.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Good idea. Since we got the new text selection and copy features back in iOS 
> 9, I have really not thought about that clipboard copy feature. I never 
> really used it much anyway. But this would be a good time for it. If Winston 
> doesn't understand what I'm talking about with my approximation, I will 
> definitely send him the exact message. It's easy to duplicate, since I have a 
> lot of books and they are all displaying this problem. I can not understand 
> why bunches of books that all look just fine all have the same problem. I 
> can't believe I have that bad of a connection over that much time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>>  
>> If you can reproduce the error message try letting Voiceover read the entire 
>> thing and then use a 3-finger quadruple tap to copy the last spoken message 
>> to your clipboard. You could, of course, use one of your iDevices to record 
>> the message as Voiceover reads it on the other one.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense
>>  
>> Hi Richard,
>> I wasn't able to send the exact error message to Winston, because they 
>> select text feature didn't work there, much to my great sorrow. So all I 
>> could do was send him an approximation. I guess I just don't have a voice 
>> dream reader luck. This app has been so much trouble ever since the big 
>> update. I just kind of wish I'd never gone there.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> I just opened 5 books from bookshare that I had downloaded a month or more 
>> ago, but had not started reading. I updated Voice Dream when the update came 
>> out.
>> I have had no issues like yours at all. They all read just fine.
>> I know you will probably already have done this, but for sure send the error 
>> message to Winston and see if he has any idea what would cause that.
>> It sounds like an incomplete download or a internet connection issue.
>> But, that is speculating far out of my league.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>>  
>>  
>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have to say, I am really disgusted with this app, which used to be so 
>> reliable, before the update, and now before this most recent update. I 
>> wonder if anyone has run across the following problem. If you are a book 
>> share user, and you have downloaded books before the most recent update, and 
>> you have iCloud sink in abled, what happens if you try to open a book share 
>> book which looks like it should be OK according to the listing in voice 
>> dream reader. That is, your book says the title and the author and the fact 
>> that it is a daisy book and 0% read, assuming you haven't read any of it. 
>> Double tap on this, and you get an error message saying that the file 
>> something about metadata is not available and therefore cannot be saved. 
>> Well I'm not trying to save anything, I just want to read the book. If you 
>> hit OK on that error message, you still can't read the book. I'm sorry but 
>> this is ridiculous. This app used to be very very reliable. Then we got 
>> iCloud sink, which for some of us was a disaster. So then I redid my entire 
>> library, and now it appears that most everything in there is going to be 
>> unusable because of some stupid error message. This is just not OK.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Radium

2016-11-04 Thread Mary Otten

As long as it works, I will keep using it. I don't know about ootunes, as I 
haven't used it in years. Wasn't there a thing where Apple was going to start 
taking lots of apps out of the store that had been updated in a certain amount 
of time? That might will apply to ootunes. So you might want to keep a back up 
of that around if you're still using it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:21 PM, BBS  wrote:
> 
> Oh well. I'll still use the app even if it's not being developed anymore. 
> It's still far more accessible than the native Sirius XM app. And besides, 
> look at Ootunes. It hasn't been updated in god knows how long and I'm betting 
> that it still works with iOS 10.
> 
> 
> Shawn
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> Mary Otten
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org; 
> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Radium
> 
> I got a response to my email to the folks at radium regarding the recent 
> message that the app needs to be updated for iOS 10, and it is not good news. 
> Radium, they informed me, is no longer being developed. They did say they are 
> maintaining their database. They did not specify that it was only the iPhone 
> app that was not being developed. My question was about that app, but they 
> said nothing at all about the Mac app, no distinction was drawn between the 
> iPhone app being developed or not and the Mac app being developed or not. 
> Therefore, I think it means radium development is not happening on any front. 
> Too bad, as it was a great app but will undoubtedly come up not working at 
> all sooner or later.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Internet browser on Apple TV

2016-11-04 Thread Gianni

Does anyone have experiences with this? What is Xcode?


Gianni

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> Op 4-nov.-2016 om 13:29 heeft Ben Mustill-Rose  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are actually browsers available for it but you have to install
> them yourself via Xcode. I haven't tried any of them.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/4/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> This is one of the things I am surprised about. I would have thought Apple
>> by now would have released a Safari app for the Apple TV. I can only assume
>> they are also not allowing companies like Firefox or Atomic to make web
>> browsers for the Apple TV for some reason.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ben Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Internet browser on Apple TV
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It's possible in a round about way but it doesn't support flash.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>>> On 11/3/16, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>> There is no internet browser.
>>> 
>>> From: Gianni
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:38 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Internet browser on Apple TV
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I have a question about the apple tv. Is it already possible to install
>>> an
>>> internet browser on the latest Apple tv? If yes, can you play websites
>>> with
>>> flash on it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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voicedream reader and problems with reading books in braille

2016-11-04 Thread Anouk Radix

Hello,
I have done some more testing with my brailliant and have noticed that 
bluetooth braille works mostly fine in general ios and ibook sfor example but 
it does not work well at all within voicedream reader. I am not sure how that 
was before but I am talking about the current version. Braille is very sluggish 
and unresponsive and the display also loses its bluetooth connection on 
occasion. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing problems with 
voicedream in combination with a braille display?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Voice dream reader question

2016-11-04 Thread Russ Kiehne

Interesting I get the same thing with downcast.

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice dream reader question

I have voice dream reader on my iPhone 7 Plus and my iPad mini two. I have 
been noticing, since the upgrade to iOS 10, that on the iPad, in the app 
switcher, I get something that says voice dream reader according to your 
current location, or something very close to that. And it cannot be 
dismissed from the app switcher. This only seems to happen on the iPad. 
Yesterday, four instance, I had voice dream reader on my iPad open. I got 
finished with it, and dismissed the app from my app switcher. Having done 
that, remaining in the app switcher what is this thing that says voice dream 
reader according to your current location. If I double tap on it, it is 
identified as a button, the app opens. This is frustrating, since you're not 
supposed to have two voice dream readers open at once. Has anyone seen this? 
Has anyone noticed a pattern? I can certainly write to Winston and will do 
so. But I thought I would ask first to see what others had been 
experiencing.

Mary

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RE: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

2016-11-04 Thread Larry Lumpkin

What is codi

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
billy inglis
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

hi Sieghard, I agree with all you said.
I'm looking into purchasing the apple tv with kodi.

  On 03/11/2016 15:49, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> There is no official Kodi app you can simply download, if there were of 
> course there would be no reason why companies would sell an Apple TV with 
> Kodi installed for an upcharge. It would appear that you can sideload Kodi 
> using Xcode, of course this is probably something a lot of people can't do 
> because I believe you definitely need a Mac for this so if you are a PC user 
> as far as I know this is not possible.
> Apparently all of us with an old Apple TV 2 could jailbreak it and install 
> Kodi on it and hence have an accessible box with Kodi. Something I may look 
> into.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of billy inglis
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?
>
> HI Chris, I have found a company here in the UK, where the new apple 4 
> tv can be purchased with Kodi already installed, or Kodi can be 
> installed for you on an existent apple tv. The apple tv with Kodi is 
> costed at £185 and for an existent apple tv £25 for Kodi to be 
> installed, Billy
>
>
>
>   On 02/11/2016 20:44, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> I got mine from Apple directly but am sure that's not the only place you can 
>> get it from. There is one certain exception and that is Amazon who claims it 
>> is for competitive reasons they are not allowing the sale of Apple TV.
>>
>>
>>> On 1 Nov 2016, at 14:10, Billy Inglis  wrote:
>>>
>>> hi guys, Just wondering, if Apple is the only place I can purchase 
>>> an Apple tv here in the UK?, bBilly
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2016 19:54, Terri Stimmel wrote:
 Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the 
 subject. I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you 
 had to say. It really made me think, and it's making this process just a 
 bit more easier for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing 
 for me, because I don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I 
 am starting to like more updates, as that usually makes things better. 
 Even if you have to wait for another update, to get some bugs fixed 
 sometimes.

 But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer 
 Apple TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream 
 from your TV, set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes 
 sense. But I don't, as I have said before. So I guess this must put me in 
 the minority.

 If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how 
 to make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, 
 but that is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to 
 change about one's self.

 Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank 
 you so very much for the advice.

 Terri

 Get Outlook for iOS

 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach" 
 > wrote:

 That is what I would go with since you don't want music, games, or books, 
 the 32 gig would be the way to go for $149.

 From: Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

 Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And 
 if money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and 
 probably cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 
 GB model. Just don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps 
 are not large. We have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running 
 out of space. Just my opinion.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 > wrote:

 Hello everybody,

 I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this 
 was really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not 
 bother me.

 They are asking $470.

 What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking 
 for $170.
 What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
 I unfortunately got

Re: Internet browser on Apple TV

2016-11-04 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose

Hi,

There are actually browsers available for it but you have to install
them yourself via Xcode. I haven't tried any of them.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/4/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> This is one of the things I am surprised about. I would have thought Apple
> by now would have released a Safari app for the Apple TV. I can only assume
> they are also not allowing companies like Firefox or Atomic to make web
> browsers for the Apple TV for some reason.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Internet browser on Apple TV
>
> Hi,
>
> It's possible in a round about way but it doesn't support flash.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
> On 11/3/16, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> There is no internet browser.
>>
>> From: Gianni
>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Internet browser on Apple TV
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a question about the apple tv. Is it already possible to install
>> an
>> internet browser on the latest Apple tv? If yes, can you play websites
>> with
>> flash on it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gianni
>>
>>
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Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

2016-11-04 Thread Richard Turner

I think you have been amazingly patient with all the headaches you've had with 
Voice Dream Reader. I wonder if you have demonstrated its limits since you have 
the largest library I've ever heard of, at least for digital books.
It could be that the way VDR is compressing things for storage cannot handle 
that many books without causing corruption. I have no idea.
I hope something better comes along for you.
Richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya

(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

Are used to think it was a fabulous app, Richard. But now unless this can be 
fixed, I'm just about done with it. I can't tell you how much time I spent 
redoing my library. Now if all of the stuff I redid Plus all new downloads 
since then and prior to the update, with the interesting exception of PDFs that 
came from the net, is going to be dead, and thus far I have literally tried a 
dozen books, all of them screwed up, I just don't know. It's not worth it.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Mary,
You could also try a screen shot and send him the photo.
It is such a fabulous app, I'm sorry it has been going south for you.
Richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya

(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi Mary,

If you can reproduce the error message try letting Voiceover read the entire 
thing and then use a 3-finger quadruple tap to copy the last spoken message to 
your clipboard. You could, of course, use one of your iDevices to record the 
message as Voiceover reads it on the other one.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moore voice dream reader nonsense

Hi Richard,
I wasn't able to send the exact error message to Winston, because they select 
text feature didn't work there, much to my great sorrow. So all I could do was 
send him an approximation. I guess I just don't have a voice dream reader luck. 
This app has been so much trouble ever since the big update. I just kind of 
wish I'd never gone there.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
Mary,
I just opened 5 books from bookshare that I had downloaded a month or more ago, 
but had not started reading. I updated Voice Dream when the update came out.
I have had no issues like yours at all. They all read just fine.
I know you will probably already have done this, but for sure send the error 
message to Winston and see if he has any idea what would cause that.
It sounds like an incomplete download or a internet connection issue.
But, that is speculating far out of my league.
Richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya

(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:
I have to say, I am really disgusted with this app, which used to be so 
reliable, before the update, and now before this most recent update. I wonder 
if anyone has run across the following problem. If you are a book share user, 
and you have downloaded books before the most recent update, and you have 
iCloud sink in abled, what happens if you try to open a book share book which 
looks like it should be OK according to the listing in voice dream reader. That 
is, your book says the title and the author and the fact that it is a daisy 
book and 0% read, assuming you haven't read any of it. Double tap on this, and 
you get an error message saying that the file something about metadata is not 
available and therefore cannot be saved. Well I'm not trying to save anything, 
I just want to read the book. If you hit OK on that error message, you still 
can't read the book. I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. This app used to be very 
very reliable. Then we got iCloud sink, which for some of us was a disaster. So 
then I redid my entire library, and now it appears that most everything in 
there is going to be unusable because of some stupid error message. This is 
just not OK.
Mary

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Re: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store experience

2016-11-04 Thread Robert Doc Wright

Speak 2 me has one for under $50.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:25 PM
  Subject: Withings Thermo body thermometer - another great Apple Store 
experience

  Hi Listers,

  I just wanted to briefly post about a new gadget I purchased from the Apple 
Store while I was here in Calgary. The item is the Withings Thermo Smart 
Thermometer meant to measure body temperature. It is rather on the expensive 
side at $109 Canadian (it is $99 US on the Withings website and from what I saw 
it’s the same on Amazon). Of course this actually means we are getting a good 
deal here in Canada since $99 US at the current exchange rate is about $135 
Canadian.

  Anyhow, it does seem to be a very nice device, the app is mostly accessible 
although a few times during the setup I had to find a “Next” button by touch 
since I couldn’t swipe to it and it can be integrated with the Health app so 
that your body temperature measurements appear there. I was hoping I could also 
take a look at another thermometer from “Kinsa”, it is an in-ear thermometer 
which is only $69 Canadian, but they didn’t have it in stock and I like the 
fact that with the Withings you just swipe it across your forehead and you can 
be about half an inch away from the skin not even touching and it still works.

  The girl who helped me at first showed me the box, I asked if there were any 
way for me to actually feel it and she had no problem opening the box. I then 
mentioned that given the relatively high price there was still the risk that 
the app may not be accessible and she promptly said why don’t we pair it with 
your phone and try it out. You can pair this via Bluetooth or WiFi and since I 
didn’t want to try to do this over the open Apple wireless network at the store 
we did bluetooth. At first we had a heck of a time to get it to work. She then 
went in the back and said she wanted to talk to one fo their guys who might 
know a lot more about it. They came back 5 minutes later and he told me he 
owned the product himself and then showed me how to use it successfully. The 
thermometer does have a display and you can assign measurements to different 
family members, but you can also do this in the app and it all is quite 
accessible. We wre also able to enable this in the Health app, but in order to 
do so we had to use the search feature in the Health app and search for “body 
temperature” and add this to the favourites screen so it’s there and easy to 
find.

  The results definitely seem to be accurate and you can of course set the 
Thermo to display in Celsius or Fahrenheit and it’s pretty cool how fast it 
does this. You basically start about in the middle of your forehead and swipe 
either to the left or right to about your tempel, do it nice and slow and by 
the time you get there the Thermo vibrates which means the measurement was 
taken.

  All in all the experience at the Apple Store was fantastic, the service 
outstanding and I ended up buying two of them since the manager of my retail 
store and his girl-friend just had a baby and I thought this would make a good 
present. They received tons of clothing from friends and babies do after all 
get sick and it’s a good thing to have a good thermometer to check their 
temperature. Of course if any of you guys are out on a date you can always 
bring it and swipe it across your dates forehead to see how “hot” she is *bad 
joke*.

  Finally, below is a link for the product on the Withings website:

  http://www.withings.com/us/en/products/thermo

  If anybody owns one of the Kinsa in-ear thermometers maybe they can post 
their experience and feedback since it is a less expensive option.

  I think the next health and fitness item on our list is the Withings smart 
scale, it seems to be one of the better ones out there compared to the other 
major brands such as Fitbit, Qardio and so on.

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

2016-11-04 Thread billy inglis

hi again Sieghard, please contact me off list. I would like to discuss 
this matter further.

Contact me via email: william.ingli...@gmail.com
twitter: ingy49
The whole Kodi thing is very interesting indeed, Billy

On 03/11/2016 15:49, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There is no official Kodi app you can simply download, if there were of course 
there would be no reason why companies would sell an Apple TV with Kodi 
installed for an upcharge. It would appear that you can sideload Kodi using 
Xcode, of course this is probably something a lot of people can't do because I 
believe you definitely need a Mac for this so if you are a PC user as far as I 
know this is not possible.
Apparently all of us with an old Apple TV 2 could jailbreak it and install Kodi 
on it and hence have an accessible box with Kodi. Something I may look into.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
billy inglis
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

HI Chris, I have found a company here in the UK, where the new apple 4 tv can 
be purchased with Kodi already installed, or Kodi can be installed for you on 
an existent apple tv. The apple tv with Kodi is costed at £185 and for an 
existent apple tv £25 for Kodi to be installed, Billy

  On 02/11/2016 20:44, christopher hallsworth wrote:

I got mine from Apple directly but am sure that's not the only place you can 
get it from. There is one certain exception and that is Amazon who claims it is 
for competitive reasons they are not allowing the sale of Apple TV.

On 1 Nov 2016, at 14:10, Billy Inglis  wrote:

hi guys, Just wondering, if Apple is the only place I can purchase an
Apple tv here in the UK?, bBilly

On 31/10/2016 19:54, Terri Stimmel wrote:

Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the subject. 
I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you had to say. 
It really made me think, and it's making this process just a bit more easier 
for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing for me, because I 
don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I am starting to like 
more updates, as that usually makes things better. Even if you have to wait for 
another update, to get some bugs fixed sometimes.

But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer Apple 
TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream from your TV, 
set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes sense. But I don't, as I 
have said before. So I guess this must put me in the minority.

If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how to 
make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, but that 
is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to change about one's 
self.

Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank you so 
very much for the advice.

Terri

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On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach" 
> wrote:

That is what I would go with since you don't want music, games, or books, the 
32 gig would be the way to go for $149.

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. Just 
don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. We 
have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just my 
opinion.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:

Hello everybody,

I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

They are asking $470.

What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking for 
$170.
What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. I 
would use to wait. I think that would be better.

Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread billy inglis

hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the 
market next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy

On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:

Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
investigate what is available in South Africa.
Regards
Fanus

From: Kliphton Miller
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct.  
Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share there 
info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection to 
my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or some 
other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert my 
movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them.  The 
most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to control the 
appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can control HBO, 
netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the network TV apps 
at that have on demand content.

  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus  wrote:

  Hello Sieghard and list
  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can one 
hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
wants to access the tv.
  Regards
  Fanus

  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
appreciate it.

  I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
  But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!

  My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
  telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
  it over.

  I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
  difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
  clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!

  The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
  set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.

  Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and
  connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near
  the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was
  flawless.

  I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure
  what to do.

  How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?

  Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to
  download them on to the Apple TV?

  I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't
  know where to look.

  Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv
  shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?

  Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to
  search for such things.

  I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps
  just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.

  Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and
  not just articles?

  I know NPR has a news app.

  Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to mess
  around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy I bought
  it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it.

  Thank you,

  Terri

  On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:
  > Hi Terri,
  >
  > I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same 
one and I love it.
  >
  > As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, 
you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going down, 
you have the Home

Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

2016-11-04 Thread billy inglis

hi Sieghard, I agree with all you said.
I'm looking into purchasing the apple tv with kodi.

 On 03/11/2016 15:49, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There is no official Kodi app you can simply download, if there were of course 
there would be no reason why companies would sell an Apple TV with Kodi 
installed for an upcharge. It would appear that you can sideload Kodi using 
Xcode, of course this is probably something a lot of people can't do because I 
believe you definitely need a Mac for this so if you are a PC user as far as I 
know this is not possible.
Apparently all of us with an old Apple TV 2 could jailbreak it and install Kodi 
on it and hence have an accessible box with Kodi. Something I may look into.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
billy inglis
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

HI Chris, I have found a company here in the UK, where the new apple 4 tv can 
be purchased with Kodi already installed, or Kodi can be installed for you on 
an existent apple tv. The apple tv with Kodi is costed at £185 and for an 
existent apple tv £25 for Kodi to be installed, Billy

  On 02/11/2016 20:44, christopher hallsworth wrote:

I got mine from Apple directly but am sure that's not the only place you can 
get it from. There is one certain exception and that is Amazon who claims it is 
for competitive reasons they are not allowing the sale of Apple TV.

On 1 Nov 2016, at 14:10, Billy Inglis  wrote:

hi guys, Just wondering, if Apple is the only place I can purchase an
Apple tv here in the UK?, bBilly

On 31/10/2016 19:54, Terri Stimmel wrote:

Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the subject. 
I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you had to say. 
It really made me think, and it's making this process just a bit more easier 
for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing for me, because I 
don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I am starting to like 
more updates, as that usually makes things better. Even if you have to wait for 
another update, to get some bugs fixed sometimes.

But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer Apple 
TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream from your TV, 
set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes sense. But I don't, as I 
have said before. So I guess this must put me in the minority.

If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how to 
make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, but that 
is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to change about one's 
self.

Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank you so 
very much for the advice.

Terri

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On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach" 
> wrote:

That is what I would go with since you don't want music, games, or books, the 
32 gig would be the way to go for $149.

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. Just 
don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. We 
have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just my 
opinion.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:

Hello everybody,

I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

They are asking $470.

What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking for 
$170.
What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. I 
would use to wait. I think that would be better.

Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Voice dream reader question

2016-11-04 Thread rajmund

Hello,
Settings, Privacy, and look around, if the app uses your location. If it does, 
turn it off. If no change, switch it off in spot light search, under settings 
general.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 4 Nov 2016, at 12:19 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> OK. I don't have dice world, so I can't compare that. I wonder what is 
> causing this. I would very much like it to go away. Not that that matters a 
> lot.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>> 
>> For me, it happens on the i phone too it will say dice world according to 
>> your current location. 
>> 
>> 
>> Rebecca and Zeb
>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have voice dream reader on my iPhone 7 Plus and my iPad mini two. I have 
>> been noticing, since the upgrade to iOS 10, that on the iPad, in the app 
>> switcher, I get something that says voice dream reader according to your 
>> current location, or something very close to that. And it cannot be 
>> dismissed from the app switcher. This only seems to happen on the iPad. 
>> Yesterday, four instance, I had voice dream reader on my iPad open. I got 
>> finished with it, and dismissed the app from my app switcher. Having done 
>> that, remaining in the app switcher what is this thing that says voice dream 
>> reader according to your current location. If I double tap on it, it is 
>> identified as a button, the app opens. This is frustrating, since you're not 
>> supposed to have two voice dream readers open at once. Has anyone seen this? 
>> Has anyone noticed a pattern? I can certainly write to Winston and will do 
>> so. But I thought I would ask first to see what others had been experiencing.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Dave

Hi Sieghard,

just to clarify, when you say reboot, do you mean, turning your handset off and 
back on again, or a hard reboot, with the power and home key?

Dave.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

Regards,

Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne

  On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange  wrote:

  Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

  Chip

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

  There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

  Chip

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

  I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

  The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

  Cheers,

  Anne

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see 
the battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

  Hello Feliciano,

  I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

  Cheers,

  Anne

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
having.

Regards, 

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On Oct 30, 2016,

Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread Fanus

Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
investigate what is available in South Africa.
Regards
Fanus

From: Kliphton Miller 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct.  
Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share there 
info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection to 
my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or some 
other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert my 
movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them.  The 
most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to control the 
appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can control HBO, 
netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the network TV apps 
at that have on demand content.

  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus  wrote:

  Hello Sieghard and list
  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can one 
hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
wants to access the tv.
  Regards
  Fanus

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
appreciate it.

  I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it. 
  But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!

  My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time, 
  telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took 
  it over.

  I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very 
  difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little 
  clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!

  The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new 
  set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.

  Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and 
  connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near 
  the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was 
  flawless.

  I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure 
  what to do.

  How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?

  Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to 
  download them on to the Apple TV?

  I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't 
  know where to look.

  Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv 
  shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?

  Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to 
  search for such things.

  I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps 
  just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.

  Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and 
  not just articles?

  I know NPR has a news app.

  Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to mess 
  around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy I bought 
  it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it.

  Thank you,

  Terri

  On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:
  > Hi Terri,
  >
  > I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same 
one and I love it.
  >
  > As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, 
you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going down, 
you have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down rocker.
  >
  > To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times

Re: Apps Updating Even When Background Refresh Is Off

2016-11-04 Thread Arnold Schmidt

As I have said, the aformentioned settings in background app refresh and in 
iTunes and App store, were, are, and always have been turned off. I don't know 
why  it was that, sometimes, when I would check the updates tab in app store, I 
would discover that,  occasionally, an app would have updated without my having 
authorized it to do so. It was not every app, and there seemed to be no rhyme 
or reason which ones did and which ones didn't. It has not happened in the last 
couple days, maybe it has stopped, I hope so. I probably will never know why it 
happened. Whatever. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Nov 3, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Arnold,

This is not correct, Background App Refresh has absolutely nothing to do with 
apps updating automatically, it simply determines whether apps for which 
background app refresh is on do exactly that "refresh when they are in the 
background" and this refers to content only, not to actual apps updating to a 
newer version. Here is what Apple has to say about Background App Refresh:

Use Background App Refresh

After you switch to a different app, some apps run for a short period of time 
before they're set to a suspended state. Apps that are in a suspended state 
aren’t actively in use, open, or taking up system resources.
With Background App Refresh, suspended apps can check for updates and new 
content. 
If you want suspended apps to check for new content, go to Settings > General > 
Background App Refresh and turn on Background App Refresh.
If you quit an app from the app switcher, it might not be able to run or check 
for new content before you open it again.

Whether apps update automatically or wait for you to initiate the update 
manually is entirely determined in Settings > iTunes and App Store.
Note that there is a difference between turning on or off "Apps" and "Updates".
The heading says "Automatic Downloads" and the explanation says "Automatically 
download new purchases, including free, made on other devices".
The items you can turn on or off are this:
Music
Apps
Books and Audio Books
Updates
Maybe this is a bit misleading although it's clear to me. The first 3 refer to 
automatic downloads for purchases made on other devices. For example, if you 
turn on all 3, Music, Apps as well as Books and Audio Books, then if you 
purchase any of these let's say on an ipad or in iTunes on your computer the 
items will automatically download to your iPhone.
The last item, Updates, has nothing to do with purchases made on other devices 
since updates aren't purchases. You can trust me that if you make sure this is 
turned off then none of your apps will update automatically since "Automatic 
downloads for updates" is off. What I am not sure about is whether if you have 
Apps turned on and an app is updated on another device whether that will then 
also happen on your iPhone. I actually doubt it, but I'm not sure. This of 
course only applies anyways if you have Automatic Downloads for apps purchased 
on other devices turned on, if you want to be sure just turn off both Apps and 
Updates.
As for Background App Refresh, you can also turn most of them off, it will save 
you some battery especially if you keep apps open in the app switcher. If you 
are like me and remove everything from the app switcher that you don't use all 
the time several times a day then it doesn't matter anyways, you can have 
Background App Refresh turned on for every single app and as long as said app 
is not actually running in the app switcher (suspended or not) nothing happens.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apps Updating Even When Background Refresh Is Off

That was already off. As I read it, that setting has to do with automaticly  
updating apps that were downloaded or updated on another device on more Apple 
ID. Background App Refresh allows apps already on my device to update in the 
background without my telling them to update. Either way, both settings ′were, 
and are, off, yet, for example, Voice Dream Reader updated yesterday  
automatically. I hope I can get this stopped, before something updates to an 
unaccessible version without my permission. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Rajmund  wrote:

Hello, settings, iTunes and app store. Here, turn off automatic updates.

Sent from an iPad Air

> On 2 Nov 2016, at 10:19 pm, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know how to stop this? Background App Refresh definitely is off, 
> but some apps still update automatically. It started  after updating to  IOS 
> 10. 
> 
> Thanks for any information. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Sieghard,

I, too, have had iPhones since June 2009 and this is the first one to crash on 
me. It isn’t as though I don’t use it for much either. I do a lot of reading on 
my iPhone, as well as using OCR, GPS, barcode recognition, Talking Goggles, 
Light Detector, news apps, and so on.
I shut down my iPhone every night, too.
Restoring to factory settings isn’t too bad for me as I back up my iPhone to my 
Mac, so no apps to download.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:26, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Lucky for you, you must be the one in a million.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I have owned an iPhone since the 3GS in 2009, and have never had a crash. 
> Can’t say the same for computers. LOL!
> Andy
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
> There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
> because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about 
> and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so 
> even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see 
> it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period 
> of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
> degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
> phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
> iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
> it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store 
> ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested 
> that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this 
> helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been 
> rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the 
> problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple 
> Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that 
> this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. 
> Since this was a warranty replacement and not an accidental damage 
> replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course the time it took to 
> get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time when I set up as a 
> new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I had brought my 
> laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the “setup table” 
> helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my laptop with 
> the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them than to 
> redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently possible 
> with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the apps I 
> wanted and then got the sync going.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Chip,
>  
> I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the 
> crash log to Apple.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange  > wrote:
>  
> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

2016-11-04 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Feliciano,

After a restore to factory settings, my phone is behaving perfectly again. So, 
for the time being, I’ll leave it up to Apple to try to figure out what’s going 
on.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:08, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> 
> At this point, you can delete all the third-party applications and see if the 
> problem still persists. It would be a big sacrifice, but if you want to 
> continue troubleshooting...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> 
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> 
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
> 
>> There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
>> because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about 
>> and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so 
>> even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could 
>> see it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer 
>> period of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was 
>> a few degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I 
>> restarted the phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. 
>> Anyhow, I had iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done 
>> this so I assumed it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at 
>> the Apple Store ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple 
>> crashes and suggested that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general 
>> maybe once a week as this helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when 
>> a phone has not been rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded 
>> to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went 
>> back to the Apple Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious 
>> and he agreed that this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he 
>> replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty replacement and not an 
>> accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course 
>> the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time 
>> when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I 
>> had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the 
>> “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my 
>> laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them 
>> than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently 
>> possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the 
>> apps I wanted and then got the sync going.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> Hello Chip,
>>  
>> I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the 
>> crash log to Apple.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange > > wrote:
>>  
>> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 
>> 10.1.1
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
>> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have 
>> to download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
>> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
>> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
>> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy > > wrote:
>>

RE: Radium

2016-11-04 Thread BBS

Oh well. I'll still use the app even if it's not being developed anymore. It's 
still far more accessible than the native Sirius XM app. And besides, look at 
Ootunes. It hasn't been updated in god knows how long and I'm betting that it 
still works with iOS 10.


Shawn
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Radium

I got a response to my email to the folks at radium regarding the recent 
message that the app needs to be updated for iOS 10, and it is not good news. 
Radium, they informed me, is no longer being developed. They did say they are 
maintaining their database. They did not specify that it was only the iPhone 
app that was not being developed. My question was about that app, but they said 
nothing at all about the Mac app, no distinction was drawn between the iPhone 
app being developed or not and the Mac app being developed or not. Therefore, I 
think it means radium development is not happening on any front. Too bad, as it 
was a great app but will undoubtedly come up not working at all sooner or later.
Mary


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