Hello Sieghard, I, too, have had iPhones since June 2009 and this is the first one to crash on me. It isn’t as though I don’t use it for much either. I do a lot of reading on my iPhone, as well as using OCR, GPS, barcode recognition, Talking Goggles, Light Detector, news apps, and so on. I shut down my iPhone every night, too. Restoring to factory settings isn’t too bad for me as I back up my iPhone to my Mac, so no apps to download.
Cheers, Anne > On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:26, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Lucky for you, you must be the one in a million. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of Andy Baracco > Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 7:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update > > I have owned an iPhone since the 3GS in 2009, and have never had a crash. > Can’t say the same for computers. LOL! > Andy > > From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update > There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary > because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about > and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so > even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see > it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period > of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few > degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the > phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had > iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed > it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store > ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested > that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this > helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been > rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the > problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple > Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that > this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. > Since this was a warranty replacement and not an accidental damage > replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course the time it took to > get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time when I set up as a > new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I had brought my > laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the “setup table” > helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my laptop with > the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them than to > redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently possible > with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the apps I > wanted and then got the sync going. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of Anne Robertson > Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update > > Hello Chip, > > I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the > crash log to Apple. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net > <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote: > > Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1 > > Chip > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of Chip Orange > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update > > There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to > see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed? > > Chip > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of Anne Robertson > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update > > I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to > download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings. > The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it > interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet > connexion couldn’t be the issue. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com > <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type > of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about > if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the > battery life difference. > > Regards, > Feliciano > For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v > <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v> > Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> > > On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com > <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hello Feliciano, > > I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com > <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having. > > Regards, > Feliciano > For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v > <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v> > Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> > > On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com > <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hello fellow listers, > > After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden > excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone. > I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps > in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible. > With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 > and 5% per hour. > I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. 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