Re: IOS10+ headphone jack refresher

[Devin Prater]

Check in the settings > general > accessibility > voiceover > audio
settings. Select both channels.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Robert Doc Wright <
yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I vaguely remember a thread concerning someone getting audio in only one
> channel of their headphones. Since IOS10.1.1 I get voiceover in the right
> channel and all other audio in both channels.
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IOS10+ headphone jack refresher

[Robert Doc Wright]

I vaguely remember a thread concerning someone getting audio in only one 
channel of their headphones. Since IOS10.1.1 I get voiceover in the right 
channel and all other audio in both channels. 
***
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RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Todd Patkus]

Cristóbal,

 

That is me, Todd, who said it to Sieghard.  smile



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

I mean Seriously…? Who  is this guy?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Sieghard,

 

Good boy for kicking an email to Accessibility.  Smile

 

Be patient.  You should get a response from them soon.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Yes, just sent another message to accessibil...@apple.com 
  about that again today, it’s been mentioned 
on the list before and I can only hope that everybody takes the minute or two 
it takes to shoot off a message to Apple about it since that one definitely 
seems to be a freely available bug on all devices.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it quick 
enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out going call.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Hi List,

 

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.

In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.

I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Cristóbal]

I mean Seriously…? Who  is this guy?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Sieghard,

 

Good boy for kicking an email to Accessibility.  Smile

 

Be patient.  You should get a response from them soon.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Yes, just sent another message to accessibil...@apple.com about that again 
today, it’s been mentioned on the list before and I can only hope that 
everybody takes the minute or two it takes to shoot off a message to Apple 
about it since that one definitely seems to be a freely available bug on all 
devices.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Ruby
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it quick 
enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out going call.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Hi List,

 

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.

In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.

I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Todd Patkus]

Sieghard,

 

Good boy for kicking an email to Accessibility.  Smile

 

Be patient.  You should get a response from them soon.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Yes, just sent another message to accessibil...@apple.com 
  about that again today, it’s been mentioned 
on the list before and I can only hope that everybody takes the minute or two 
it takes to shoot off a message to Apple about it since that one definitely 
seems to be a freely available bug on all devices.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it quick 
enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out going call.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Hi List,

 

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.

In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.

I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Shaf Patel]

they'll only take a few months to fix the bug.

On 11/10/2016 3:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Yes, just sent another message to accessibil...@apple.com
>  about that again today, it’s been
> mentioned on the list before and I can only hope that everybody takes
> the minute or two it takes to shoot off a message to Apple about it
> since that one definitely seems to be a freely available bug on all devices.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Ruby
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:25 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone
> 
>  
> 
> I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it
> quick enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out
> going call.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone
> 
>  
> 
> Hi List,
> 
>  
> 
> I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you
> dial a call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your
> phone against your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call
> decides to switch to speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from
> the ear, wait a second or two and then put it back up to your face
> before it usually switches back to the earpiece. Of course if you are in
> a public place this can be annoying since usually the other party can't
> hear you right away and keeps asking what's going on.
> 
> In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S
> Plus which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the
> exact same issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone
> and was not restored from a backup.
> 
> I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios
> 10 and so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time
> to time I make a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I
> start a call and then put the phone to my face and take it away or put
> my hand over the top of the phone and then take it away to trigger the
> audio to go to speakerphone, the call usually reverts to the earpiece
> when somebody answers so the issues seems to go both ways.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
> 
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RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, just sent another message to 
accessibil...@apple.com about that again today, 
it’s been mentioned on the list before and I can only hope that everybody takes 
the minute or two it takes to shoot off a message to Apple about it since that 
one definitely seems to be a freely available bug on all devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Ruby
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it quick 
enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out going call.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

Hi List,

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.
In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.
I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Jim Ruby]

I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it quick 
enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out going call.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Hi List,

 

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.

In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.

I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Jim Ruby]

Yes, all the time using iphone 5s ios 10.1.1 with alix voice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

 

Hi List,

 

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.

In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.

I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi List,

I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you dial a 
call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your phone against 
your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call decides to switch to 
speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from the ear, wait a second or 
two and then put it back up to your face before it usually switches back to the 
earpiece. Of course if you are in a public place this can be annoying since 
usually the other party can't hear you right away and keeps asking what's going 
on.
In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S Plus 
which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the exact same 
issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone and was not 
restored from a backup.
I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios 10 and 
so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time to time I make 
a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I start a call and then put 
the phone to my face and take it away or put my hand over the top of the phone 
and then take it away to trigger the audio to go to speakerphone, the call 
usually reverts to the earpiece when somebody answers so the issues seems to go 
both ways.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Apple Released a New iOS 10.1.1 Version Today

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks, Sieghard. That article you included from MacRumors happens to be the 
exact one I included with my original post. 

I've updated my iPhone 7 to this latest version but have noticed no differences 
thus far. 

Alan 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
>  
> At first I was going to reply and ask if you are really sure whether the iOS 
> 10.1.1 update actually installed when you did it the first time or whether 
> maybe this is "iOS 10.1.1 Trump Edition".
> I had never heard Apple released an update with the same version number. 
> Also, when I did a Check for Updates on my iPhone it said it was up-to-date. 
> Then I googled this and bingo, MacRumours solved the puzzle, here is what 
> they had to say:
>  
> Apple Releases Updated Version of iOS 10.1.1
> 
> Wednesday November 9, 2016 10:29 am PST by Juli Clover
> Apple today seeded a minor version change to iOS 10.1.1, the current version 
> of the iOS 10 operating system. The update is minor enough that it did not 
> warrant a full 10.x.x number change, but it does include an updated build 
> number.
> 
> iOS 10.1.1 being released today has a build number of 14B150, while the 
> initial iOS 10.1.1 release, which came on October 31, had a build number of 
> 14B100.
> 
> The new build of iOS 10.1.1 is only available as a download from Apple's 
> servers and cannot be obtained over-the-air at this time for those who have 
> already installed the first version of iOS 10.1.1. The new version of iOS 
> 10.1.1 will likely be provided to those who have yet to install iOS 10.1.1, 
> as it otherwise requires an iTunes connection to obtain.
> 
> There is no new information in the changelog for the updated build, so it is 
> unclear what minor bug fixes or changes it brings.
> 
> The first version of iOS 10.1.1 fixed a bug that caused Health data to be 
> unavailable for some users. A minor update, iOS 10.1.1 was released shortly 
> after iOS 10.1, a more significant update that brought a new "Portrait" mode 
> and dozens of bug fixes and feature improvements.
> 
>  
> Here is the link for the article:
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/09/apple-releases-new-version-of-ios-10-1-1/
>  
> I don't think I'll bother to connect to iTunes to download this since nobody 
> even seems to know what they fixed. I just assume that if it were important 
> enough for Apple to want people who are already on 10.1.1 to have this 
> updated built then they would have pushed it out as version 10.1.2 and made 
> it available also for over-the-air upgrades.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Apple Released a New iOS 10.1.1 Version Today

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

At first I was going to reply and ask if you are really sure whether the iOS 
10.1.1 update actually installed when you did it the first time or whether 
maybe this is "iOS 10.1.1 Trump Edition".
I had never heard Apple released an update with the same version number. Also, 
when I did a Check for Updates on my iPhone it said it was up-to-date. Then I 
googled this and bingo, MacRumours solved the puzzle, here is what they had to 
say:

Apple Releases Updated Version of iOS 10.1.1
Wednesday November 9, 2016 10:29 am PST by Juli 
Clover
Apple today seeded a minor version change to iOS 
10.1.1, the current version of the 
iOS 10 operating system. The update is minor enough that it did not warrant a 
full 10.x.x number change, but it does include an updated build number.
iOS 10.1.1 being released today has a build number of 14B150, while the initial 
iOS 10.1.1 
release, which 
came on October 31, had a build number of 14B100.
The new build of iOS 10.1.1 is only available as a download from Apple's 
servers and cannot be obtained over-the-air at this time for those who have 
already installed the first version of iOS 10.1.1. The new version of iOS 
10.1.1 will likely be provided to those who have yet to install iOS 10.1.1, as 
it otherwise requires an iTunes connection to obtain.
There is no new information in the changelog for the updated build, so it is 
unclear what minor bug fixes or changes it brings.
The first version of iOS 10.1.1 fixed a bug that caused Health data to be 
unavailable for some users. A minor update, iOS 10.1.1 was released shortly 
after iOS 
10.1,
 a more significant update that brought a new "Portrait" mode and dozens of bug 
fixes and feature improvements.

Here is the link for the article:
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/09/apple-releases-new-version-of-ios-10-1-1/

I don't think I'll bother to connect to iTunes to download this since nobody 
even seems to know what they fixed. I just assume that if it were important 
enough for Apple to want people who are already on 10.1.1 to have this updated 
built then they would have pushed it out as version 10.1.2 and made it 
available also for over-the-air upgrades.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: App Support?

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. I got the same alert not long ago about ooTunes. Though it has not
been updated in several years, I've heard from other people on this
list that the developer is responsive about adding stations and fixing
issues with current stations accessed through the app. I am usually
not one to hang onto an app that hasn't been updated in awhile, but
there are many stations that I listen to with ooTunes, like Clear
Channel or others, that I can get with that one app. Verses having to
download several different apps to do the job of one.

Wayne

On 11/6/16, Donald Moore  wrote:
> I'm wondering if Fball and Ootunes are still being supported?
>
> I haven't seen any updates in a while and I've gotten alerts telling me
> that
> both apps need to be updated or they could slow down my phone.
>
> Thanks in advance
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RE: no home button?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Another great way to tell if the phone is off would be to flick the mute 
switch, if it is off nothing happens, if it is on there should be a brief 
vibration when you flick it towards the back to the mute position.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no home button?

One difference between the actual Home button on older iPhones and the Home 
button on the new iPhone 7: if you turn the iPhone 7/Plus off, nothing will 
happen to the Home button when you push it in. This is different from older 
phones where even when the phone is off, the button could be pressed. Of 
course, nothing would happen to the phone in that case, but still it is a way 
to see if your iPhone 7 is off.

I am teaching a student with neuropathy who has an iPhone 5S. He self-reports 
that he can feel the home button on my iPhone 7 better than he can on his 5S.

Wayne

On 11/7/16, Debby  wrote:
> Yes it does feel like a button, but mechanically it doesn't do 
> anything. You can't really move it. When you press your finger to it 
> you get the haptic thing--the phone kind of shutters.
>
> Debby
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We 
> looking at the same phone?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: November-07-16 7:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your 
> fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to 
> me than the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a 
> newby has one. (can you say tough learning curve!) She is in another 
> state, so I can't take another look at it right now.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Debby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jed Barton
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: no home button?
>
> well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button.
> Yes you can feel it on the screen
>
> On 11/6/2016 7:08 PM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn't have a home button how are 
>> functions which would normally require this button performed?
>> Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: app to vibrate the time when muted?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Dan,

I don't think this exists although it would be a great addition to iOS. The 
Apple Watch can give you the time silently via vibrations, you simply double 
tap the screen and it will give you hours and minutes or, if you know the hour 
you can triple tap the screen and it will only vibrate the minutes.
There are 3 styles of vibrations you can choose from, one gives you the time in 
morse code if you happen to know morse code, the other two are just two 
different patterns which are pretty easy to learn.
I really don't see why this feature couldn't be added to the iPhone, just 
double tap the screen when the phone is locked and it would vibrate the time in 
the same way the watch does. This would be a useful feature for anybody who 
wants a silent way to tell the time and also benefit the DeafBlind community.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: app to vibrate the time when muted?

Hi,


Does anyone know of an app that will vibrate the time when the phone is muted?  
I need to check the time but also to have my phone muted so it doesn't disturb 
meetings and other situations.


What I am looking for is an app that if I press the lock button and the phone 
is muted it will simply vibrate the current time.  I realize that I would have 
to learn how to interpret the vibrations to know what time it is.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

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Re: no home button?

[Wayne Merritt]

One difference between the actual Home button on older iPhones and the
Home button on the new iPhone 7: if you turn the iPhone 7/Plus off,
nothing will happen to the Home button when you push it in. This is
different from older phones where even when the phone is off, the
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in that case, but still it is a way to see if your iPhone 7 is off.

I am teaching a student with neuropathy who has an iPhone 5S. He
self-reports that he can feel the home button on my iPhone 7 better
than he can on his 5S.

Wayne

On 11/7/16, Debby  wrote:
> Yes it does feel like a button, but mechanically it doesn't do anything. You
> can't really move it. When you press your finger to it you get the haptic
> thing--the phone kind of shutters.
>
> Debby
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> Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We
> looking at the same phone?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Debby
> Sent: November-07-16 7:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your
> fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me
> than the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has
> one. (can you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't
> take another look at it right now.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Debby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jed Barton
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: no home button?
>
> well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button.
> Yes you can feel it on the screen
>
> On 11/6/2016 7:08 PM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn't have a home button how are
>> functions which would normally require this button performed?
>> Ray T. Mahorney
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Apple Released a New iOS 10.1.1 Version Today

[Alan Lemly]

I got an iTunes message telling me there was a new iOS version to download
when I executed check for update. I was confused when the new version had
the exact same iOS version number as the one currently running on my iPhone
7. Apparently, Apple did release a new build of iOS 10.1.1 today and didn't
change the version number which seems a bit confusing to me.

 

Here's a link to an article which discusses the update and I'll paste the
text of it after my signature:

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/09/apple-releases-new-version-of-ios-10-1-1
/

 

I have not yet downloaded the update.

 

Alan Lemly

 


Apple Releases Updated Version of iOS 10.1.1


Wednesday November 9, 2016 10:29 am PST by Juli Clover
 

Apple today seeded a minor version change to iOS 10
 .1.1, the current version of the
iOS 10 operating system. The update is minor enough that it did not warrant
a full 10.x.x number change, but it does include an updated build number. 

iOS 10.1.1 being released today has a build number of 14B150, while the
initial iOS 10.1.1 release
 , which
came on October 31, had a build number of 14B100. 

The new build of iOS 10.1.1 is only available as a download from Apple's
servers and cannot be obtained over-the-air at this time for those who have
already installed the first version of iOS 10.1.1. The new version of iOS
10.1.1 will likely be provided to those who have yet to install iOS 10.1.1,
as it otherwise requires an iTunes connection to obtain. 

There is no new information in the changelog for the updated build, so it is
unclear what minor bug fixes or changes it brings. 

The first version of iOS 10.1.1 fixed a bug that caused Health data to be
unavailable for some users. A minor update, iOS 10.1.1 was released shortly
after iOS 10.1
 , a more significant update that brought a new "Portrait" mode and
dozens of bug fixes and feature improvements.

 

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Belkin Lightening Audio + Charge Rockstar Adapter

[Alan Lemly]

Hello List,

 

I purchased one of these $39.95 adapters directly from the Apple Store so I
could both listen to and charge my iPhone 7 using my wired earpods. The
adapter works well for the most part but I'm having an occasional issue with
it. I leave it attached to my lightning USB cable which is plugged into my
computer and at least twice, iTunes hasn't recognized my attached iPhone 7
when connected to the Belkin adapter. I've had to remove the adapter and
attach my USB lightning cable directly to the iPhone.

 

Other than that, the adapter has worked well with my iPhone and all the
earpod buttons work well with the adapter.

 

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app to vibrate the time when muted?

[Dan]

Hi,


Does anyone know of an app that will vibrate the time when the phone is 
muted?  I need to check the time but also to have my phone muted so it 
doesn't disturb meetings and other situations.



What I am looking for is an app that if I press the lock button and the 
phone is muted it will simply vibrate the current time.  I realize that 
I would have to learn how to interpret the vibrations to know what time 
it is.



Thanks.


Dan Beaver

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Re: Notes and voiceover

[becky knaub]

I have tried it both ways. I find it it is more likely to work going line by 
line in edit mode. Unfortunately my client wants to go line by line in notes 
when he is not editing but rather when he is reading. Do you notice with his 
iPad that sometimes even doing the line by line navigation in editing mode 
still doesn't work. Mine does that once in a while. But that is why I decided 
not to use Notes and use other apps such as word and notebooks. Thanks for the 
help. I appreciate it.


Becky and Hazel

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. When I swipe down by line in a note I am able to move by
> line. When trying to do this, are you in the editing text mode where
> you can write, edit and navigate text?
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/7/16, becky knaub  wrote:
>> Yes. Unfortunately that isn't working nor is hitting the VO keys and using
>> the down arrow key. Also I have tried doing these things with quick nav on
>> and off.
>> 
>> Becky and Hazel
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Once you have the roter set for lines, are you swiping down to read each
>>> line?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of becky knaub
>>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:26 AM
>>> To: ViPhone 
>>> Subject: Notes and voiceover
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am working with the clients iPad and I found a problem. There is
>>> difficulty with going line by line in a document in notes when the
>>> document is written in paragraph format. I have tried using the keyboard
>>> and using my finger on the touchscreen to go line by line. Even when I
>>> make sure the rotor is set to go by line it is not working. Any
>>> suggestions would be welcome.
>>> 
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RE: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

[Larry Lumpkin]

I do have the latest update.


-Original Message-
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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 1:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

Hi,

Are you running the latest iOS update? I had this problem more when I first got 
my phone than I did after I updated it.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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> Mine refused to work until I unplugged either the buds or adaptor and plugged 
> the charger in and then unplugged the charger and re-plugged the buds.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets
> 
> Larry,
> I have experienced this randomly when connecting my lightning earbuds or my 
> older headphone jack earbuds which were connected to the new lightning dongle 
> to my phone. The few times it has happened, I unplugged the earbuds and then 
> plugged them back into the phone and they worked just fine. It has not 
> happened a lot or often enough to be a pattern.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/7/16, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> I have found that my new Iphone 7 often ignores a headset connected 
>> to it whether it be the lightning  buds that shipped with it or the 
>> aftershokz bone-conduction set connected via the adaptor.  It usually 
>> comes back just by itself or by re-connecting it.  Last time however, 
>> it did not and I had to connect the charger to the phone and then 
>> re-connect the headset or buds.
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>> 
>> 
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Re: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Are you running the latest iOS update? I had this problem more when I first got 
my phone than I did after I updated it.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> Mine refused to work until I unplugged either the buds or adaptor and plugged 
> the charger in and then unplugged the charger and re-plugged the buds.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets
> 
> Larry,
> I have experienced this randomly when connecting my lightning earbuds or my 
> older headphone jack earbuds which were connected to the new lightning dongle 
> to my phone. The few times it has happened, I unplugged the earbuds and then 
> plugged them back into the phone and they worked just fine. It has not 
> happened a lot or often enough to be a pattern.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/7/16, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> I have found that my new Iphone 7 often ignores a headset connected to 
>> it whether it be the lightning  buds that shipped with it or the 
>> aftershokz bone-conduction set connected via the adaptor.  It usually 
>> comes back just by itself or by re-connecting it.  Last time however, 
>> it did not and I had to connect the charger to the phone and then 
>> re-connect the headset or buds.
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>> 
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Re: Notes and voiceover

[Wayne Merritt]

Interesting. When I swipe down by line in a note I am able to move by
line. When trying to do this, are you in the editing text mode where
you can write, edit and navigate text?

Wayne

On 11/7/16, becky knaub  wrote:
> Yes. Unfortunately that isn't working nor is hitting the VO keys and using
> the down arrow key. Also I have tried doing these things with quick nav on
> and off.
>
> Becky and Hazel
>
>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>>
>> Once you have the roter set for lines, are you swiping down to read each
>> line?
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of becky knaub
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:26 AM
>> To: ViPhone 
>> Subject: Notes and voiceover
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I am working with the clients iPad and I found a problem. There is
>> difficulty with going line by line in a document in notes when the
>> document is written in paragraph format. I have tried using the keyboard
>> and using my finger on the touchscreen to go line by line. Even when I
>> make sure the rotor is set to go by line it is not working. Any
>> suggestions would be welcome.
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Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?

[Connie Mohney]

Thank you Richard I appreciate the link.
Connie

Sent from my iPod

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> Likewise, I also convert my Kindle books to epub to read them with voice 
> dream reader. 
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?
>  
>  
> Hi Garry and All,
> When Kindle changed their app so the status bar no longer shows while you are 
> in the app, Speak Screen went away.
> It only works in apps where the status bar shows.
> Perhaps eMailing the developer would be a good idea.
> Personally, I now convert Kindle books to ePub and read them in Voice Dream 
> Reader.
> Codex is a nice free piece of software for doing this.
> I have a link to it on my web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> Hth,
> Richard
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Here is the link to Kindle in the app store. It works on all iPhones.
>> Kindle – Read eBooks, Magazines & Textbooks by AMZN Mobile LLC
>> https://appsto.re/us/Lmrcs.i
>>  
>>  
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Connie Mohney  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> If you don't mind my asking, does  kindle only come with 7 plus phones?  
>>> I'm asking because I just went into the  app store and hit searchtyped in 
>>> kindle and   it didn't bring up Kindle.  Thank you for answering my 
>>> question.
>>> Connie
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Shaf Patel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 2:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?
>>> 
>>> no.
>>> 
 On 11/8/2016 7:04 PM, Harry Bell wrote:
 I'm trying to use Speak Screen on my iPhone 7 Plus with latest iOS. If I 
 open a Kindle book and then swipe down with two fingers or tell Siri to 
 speak screen, all goes well until I turn off the screen with a tap on the 
 power button: after this the iPhone carries on reading only until the end 
 of the current page and then stops dead. Have I misunderstood something? 
 Harry
 
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Calling via Skype is no longer presented as an option when I open a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi List,

I just noticed this and I'm not sure if it's a 10.1.1 bug, but when 10.1 came 
out and Skype and Whats App both had released updates to support SIRI 
integration, I also had the options to call via Skype or Whats App when I 
opened a contact, did a one-finger swipe up or down on the "Call" button to 
bring up the "Show Options" selection and then double tapped. This would then 
list all the phone numbers for the contact along with options to call said 
numbers directly via Skype or Whats App. If I double tapped let's say on 
somebody's home number via the Skype option Skype would open and the call would 
be placed. Last night I wanted to do this and I no longer have calling via 
Skype as an option. Whats App is still there and I checked all my settings and 
can't see where I am missing something. In the Skype app under the My Info tab 
and Settings the option for "Integrated Calling" is on, if I go to Settings > 
SIRI and check at the bottom under the "App Support" button both Skype and 
Whats App are listed and turned on. In Settings > Privacy > Contacts Skype is 
allowed access to my contacts and I tried in all three places to turn the 
feature off and back on, but still I don't get calling via Skype as an option.
There was also a Skype update this morning, but it seems to make no difference.
I am wondering if others still have calling via Skype showing up when you are 
in a contact? Once again, to check open a contact, on the "Call" button 
(sometimes Voiceover seems to say "Call Call" swipe down with one finger and 
double tap when Voiceover says "Show Options". Now check that pop-up list/menu 
to see what choices you have. Of course it goes without saying that you do have 
to have Skype installed.
I just tested making a Skype call with SIRI where I said "Call so and so via 
Skype" where so and so was a name I do have as a Skype contact and it went 
through, just seems that the option to call via Skype in contacts has 
disappeared.


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Re: The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver

[Craig Werner]

Hello, Sieghard.

I quite forgot when I posted my reply to Carol that the user can
delete the entire contents of the trash mailbox with one press of a
button in the native Mail app.  I still think there is a place for the
Gmail app for those who prefer a streamlined, single-minded gateway to
Gmail.  I am a fan of apps that do not present over-complicated
scenarios.  Having said that, I also use the native aMail app and
think that overall, it does a good job in uniting a number of
functions.

Craig

On 11/8/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Craig,
>
> You can empty the trash/deleted items folder in the iOS mail app all at
> once, too. I also never understood why somebody would want to delete all
> items in the inbox. OK, I guess if maybe you have a specific address for a
> mailing list and you just don't have time to read the messages this wold be
> a legit reason, but I can't ever see myself wanting to delete all emails in
> my main personal email account or my business account, there will always be
> emails in there I keep for some reason or the other or emails I still need
> to deal with.
> Lastly, the native mail app now pretty much offers the same data sharing
> capability. You can use the "Attach File" option which is part of the edit
> menu in the rotor and this will let you enable iCloud Drive, Dropbox and
> OneDrive so you can very easily and quickly start composing an email and
> attach one or multiple files to it.
> With the exception of that issue where Voiceover may stop for a moment or
> longer in some cases when replying to a large thread the native mail app
> really is very well done, efficient and nice to work with.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Craig Werner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 1:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver
>
> Hello, Carol.
>
> The Gmail app works specifically with Google accounts, and I can't see a way
> to force it out of its comfort zone.  As to why someone would want to use
> it, one might not need the power and data sharing capabilities of Outlook.
> One might want to keep Gmail activity very separate from the activity on
> there accounts.  If for some reason a user had to delete the Apple iOS mail
> account and had to start over, and if one of the accounts under the app was
> a POP3, all messages might be lost, including those on the Gmail account.
> Perhaps the interface is just pleasant to some.  There are some handy
> elements, such as the "Empty Trash" button.  The text explaining the new
> features of V. 5.0.13 claims that with one swipe, the entire Inbox of a
> Gmail account can be cleaned out.  I haven't tested this feature with
> VoiceOver.
>
> Craig
>
> On 11/8/16, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Is it specifically only to work with Gmail, please?
>>
>> Carol P - UK
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/11/2016 09:17, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> Awesome, I'll have to try it out.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2016 11:44 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
 New iOS Gmail accessibility is absolutely amazing!

 On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:55 AM Craig Werner >>> > wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 It might be of interest to a number of you that the latest
 release of
 the Gmail app for iOS devices operates somewhat differently with
 VoiceOver than did previous versions, and based on the testing I
 have
 done, the app has improved for VoiceOver users.  In earlier
 versions,
 if one wanted to delete a message from the message index, one would
 have to check a checkbox next to its header information and then
 press
 a "Delete" button.  Now, double-tap and holding the button
 corresponding to the unwanted message places the app in a "Select"
 mode.  The user can then move down the list of messages and simply
 double-tap the unwanted ones; the "hold" gesture needs to be
 used only
 on the first undesired  message.  Then, once the "delete" list has
 been compiled, the "Delete" button can be activated.  There are
 other
 ways to get rid of messages, but I don't want to make this message
 overly long.  There is also an "Undo" button which evidently allows
 the user to take back a number of actions.  I have not tested this
 function yet.  Most gratifying is the possibility that the bug
 which
 prevented text editing of the body of a message may have been
 squashed, at least if the user is typing on the on-screen
 keyboard.  I
 haven't tested it with a Bluetooth keyboard yet.

 Craig

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RE: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

[Larry Lumpkin]

Mine refused to work until I unplugged either the buds or adaptor and plugged 
the charger in and then unplugged the charger and re-plugged the buds.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

Larry,
I have experienced this randomly when connecting my lightning earbuds or my 
older headphone jack earbuds which were connected to the new lightning dongle 
to my phone. The few times it has happened, I unplugged the earbuds and then 
plugged them back into the phone and they worked just fine. It has not happened 
a lot or often enough to be a pattern.

Wayne

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> I have found that my new Iphone 7 often ignores a headset connected to 
> it whether it be the lightning  buds that shipped with it or the 
> aftershokz bone-conduction set connected via the adaptor.  It usually 
> comes back just by itself or by re-connecting it.  Last time however, 
> it did not and I had to connect the charger to the phone and then 
> re-connect the headset or buds.
> Has anyone else experienced this?
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Re: Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

[Wayne Merritt]

Larry,
I have experienced this randomly when connecting my lightning earbuds
or my older headphone jack earbuds which were connected to the new
lightning dongle to my phone. The few times it has happened, I
unplugged the earbuds and then plugged them back into the phone and
they worked just fine. It has not happened a lot or often enough to be
a pattern.

Wayne

On 11/7/16, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> I have found that my new Iphone 7 often ignores a headset connected to it
> whether it be the lightning  buds that shipped with it or the aftershokz
> bone-conduction set connected via the adaptor.  It usually comes back just
> by itself or by re-connecting it.  Last time however, it did not and I had
> to connect the charger to the phone and then re-connect the headset or
> buds.
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
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RE: which phones have offline dictation

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It simply means that dictation works when the phone has no internet connection 
or is in Airplane mode. In this case the voice recognition is done on the phone 
instead of by Apple servers in the cloud. It seems to work just the same as 
when you are online.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which phones have offline dictation

how would offline dictation work and would it be fairly accurate?

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From: Robin
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 18:10
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which phones have offline dictation

TheSE Does
that is the iPhoneSE
At 02:06 PM 11/8/2016, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm working on the next edition of getting started with the iPhone, and 
>I could use a bit of help. I believe I'm right that the 6s, 6s Plus, 
>SE, and the 7 phones all have the following features that other phones 
>don't: Raise to Wake, Hey Siri works when the phone is on battery, and 
>offline dictation. Is that right?
>
>Thanks a lot,
>Anna
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Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?

[Russ Kiehne]

Likewise, I also convert my Kindle books to epub to read them with voice dream 
reader.  

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?


Hi Garry and All,
When Kindle changed their app so the status bar no longer shows while you are 
in the app, Speak Screen went away.
It only works in apps where the status bar shows.
Perhaps eMailing the developer would be a good idea.
Personally, I now convert Kindle books to ePub and read them in Voice Dream 
Reader.
Codex is a nice free piece of software for doing this.
I have a link to it on my web site: www.turner42.com

Hth,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:



  Here is the link to Kindle in the app store. It works on all iPhones.
  Kindle – Read eBooks, Magazines & Textbooks by AMZN Mobile LLC
  https://appsto.re/us/Lmrcs.i


  (Sent from my iPhone 5S)

  On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Connie Mohney  wrote:


Harry,
If you don't mind my asking, does  kindle only come with 7 plus phones?  
I'm asking because I just went into the  app store and hit searchtyped in 
kindle and   it didn't bring up Kindle.  Thank you for answering my question.
Connie

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no.

On 11/8/2016 7:04 PM, Harry Bell wrote:

  I'm trying to use Speak Screen on my iPhone 7 Plus with latest iOS. If I 
open a Kindle book and then swipe down with two fingers or tell Siri to speak 
screen, all goes well until I turn off the screen with a tap on the power 
button: after this the iPhone carries on reading only until the end of the 
current page and then stops dead. Have I misunderstood something? Harry




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RE: Phone app on Apple Watch

[Daniel L. Gervais]

I believe he is referring to not having a dial pad on the Apple Watch,
not the iPhone.


From:   "Todd Patkus" 
To: 
Date:   2016/11/08 6:26 PM
Subject:RE: Phone app on Apple Watch

Sieghard,

 

Have your sighted friend see what is on your screen.  I see a dial pad
on mine.  Does not make sense when one says no dial pad!

 

Todd

 

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Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Phone app on Apple Watch

 

Hi Anna,

 

That's amazing, I really don't undersand why there isn't a DialPad,
definitely something I will have to submit as feedback/a feature
request. 

I did check under Settings > Phone and for "Calls on other devices" it
says "When Nearby". If I double tap on that it says that it is turned on
and that is the only setting I see.

Unfortunately Telus, one of the 3 big carriers in Canada, for some
reason does not yet offer Wi-Fi calling, hopefully this will change
soon.

 

I wonder why my Watch didn't ring then yesterday since my phone was
connected to my store's WiFi network and according to what you said this
means my watch should also be connected.

 

Another oddity I noticed is that when I open the Messages app I saw all
my messages, but a few of the iMessage threads I had deleted on my
phone, but they still showed up on the watch. Shouldn't they go away on
the watch if they are deleted on the phone.

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 8:31 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Phone app on Apple Watch

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

No, there's no dial pad for the phone on the watch. There aren't Wi-Fi
settings either, but your watch does have Wi-Fi capability, and it will
join any network that your phone has joined. As a result, you can get
iMessages and notifications even if your phone is off. I believe that if
your phone and watch are connected to the same Wi-Fi network, you can
get calls on your watch if you have Wi-Fi Calling turned on. Note that
not all cell networks allow Wi-Fi calling. Check in Phone Settings on
your phone. Wi-Fi Calling and Calls on Other Devices should both be
turned on.

 

I hope that's of some help.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Nov 8, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Watchers (is that a good name to call us Apple Watch users?),

 

I am fairly new to the Apple Watch. Am I missing something or is there
no DialPad in the phone app on the Apple Watch? If so I really hope
Apple will fix this because this means you can’t use it at all to make
phone calls to anywhere you may have to enter an extension or press a
number to reach a certain department etc. Nowadays this means most phone
calls to larger and medium sized companies are not possible with the
Apple Watch since so many businesses nowadays have auto-answer systems
where you do have to press some numbers. It’s not as if it couldn’t
be done, after all there is a keypad for entering your passcode which is
basically the same as the Dialpad of the phone app without the Asterisk
and Number keys.

 

Also, I thought the Apple Watch used WiFi, but I don’t see a WiFi
setting anywhere, just bluetooth. Yesterday I had left my phone in the
office at my retail store and was up front with a customer, maybe 50 or
60 feet away from the office. I heard my phone ring in the office, but
my Apple Watch didn’t ring, it then started ringing as I walked a bit
closer, but by then it was too late to pick up the call before it went
to voice mail.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: which phones have offline dictation

['ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone]

how would offline dictation work and would it be fairly accurate?

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Subject: Re: which phones have offline dictation

TheSE Does
that is the iPhoneSE
At 02:06 PM 11/8/2016, you wrote:

Hello,

I'm working on the next edition of getting started with the iPhone, and I 
could use a bit of help. I believe I'm right that the 6s, 6s Plus, SE, and 
the 7 phones all have the following features that other phones don't: Raise 
to Wake, Hey Siri works when the phone is on battery, and offline 
dictation. Is that right?


Thanks a lot,
Anna

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Re: The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Thanks, Craig. One day I mayh give it a shot but prefer all mail in one 
place. 



Carol P

On 08/11/2016 21:05, Craig Werner wrote:

Hello, Carol.

The Gmail app works specifically with Google accounts, and I can't see
a way to force it out of its comfort zone.  As to why someone would
want to use it, one might not need the power and data sharing
capabilities of Outlook.  One might want to keep Gmail activity very
separate from the activity on there accounts.  If for some reason a
user had to delete the Apple iOS mail account and had to start over,
and if one of the accounts under the app was a POP3, all messages
might be lost, including those on the Gmail account.  Perhaps the
interface is just pleasant to some.  There are some handy elements,
such as the "Empty Trash" button.  The text explaining the new
features of V. 5.0.13 claims that with one swipe, the entire Inbox of
a Gmail account can be cleaned out.  I haven't tested this feature
with VoiceOver.

Craig

On 11/8/16, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:

Is it specifically only to work with Gmail, please?

Carol P - UK



On 08/11/2016 09:17, Devin Prater wrote:

Awesome, I'll have to try it out.


On 11/7/2016 11:44 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

New iOS Gmail accessibility is absolutely amazing!

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 Hello, everyone.

 It might be of interest to a number of you that the latest
release of
 the Gmail app for iOS devices operates somewhat differently with
 VoiceOver than did previous versions, and based on the testing I
have
 done, the app has improved for VoiceOver users.  In earlier
versions,
 if one wanted to delete a message from the message index, one would
 have to check a checkbox next to its header information and then
press
 a "Delete" button.  Now, double-tap and holding the button
 corresponding to the unwanted message places the app in a "Select"
 mode.  The user can then move down the list of messages and simply
 double-tap the unwanted ones; the "hold" gesture needs to be used
only
 on the first undesired  message.  Then, once the "delete" list has
 been compiled, the "Delete" button can be activated.  There are
other
 ways to get rid of messages, but I don't want to make this message
 overly long.  There is also an "Undo" button which evidently allows
 the user to take back a number of actions.  I have not tested this
 function yet.  Most gratifying is the possibility that the bug which
 prevented text editing of the body of a message may have been
 squashed, at least if the user is typing on the on-screen
keyboard.  I
 haven't tested it with a Bluetooth keyboard yet.

 Craig

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