Spotify and the Ipad

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, could someone please give me some advice, or suggestions on 
how to use Spotify with my Ipad?

I love my Ipad, even though I find it rather confusing at times. And I have 
realized that for some reason, certain Apps don't work as well, or at all, with 
the Ipad. Which I find confusing.

Anyway, I really want to use Spotify on my Ipad, and not my phone. I am trying 
to keep such Apps on my Ipad, for reading books, reading, or listening to news, 
playing music, and such things as this. I am not 1 who likes to drain the 
battery of my phone, by doing these things. But also, I don't like to put my 
phone on disturb. I figure I can set it on vibrate, if I don't want to receive 
calls, and such.

Ok, got off-topic there. Sorry about that.

I want to use Spotify on my Ipad.
However, I find it rather confusing! It's driving me crazy!
Sometimes, I want to see all the artists I have in my collection. Or I want to 
remove an artist, if at all possible. But when trying to review the screen, I 
keep running in to albums, or artists that have been recently played. I will 
even see certain tracks of albums, and how I can play them again.
Is there a way to not see all this? If so, what do I need to do?
Also, how do I go about removing an artist, or an album, or song that I know 
longer want in my list? Is this possible?

I am sure I have more questions. But this is what I can think of, at the moment.
Any thoughts, advice, or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Tiles and tile app? Not!

[Grant]

Hello Sieghard and all,

To directly contradict one of your points about Tile, the company will indeed 
send you prepaid shipping envelopes along with new Tiles, for around 50% of the 
retail price for the product, when the battery begins experiencing issues or 
around the one year mark after purchasing Tile. This is to compensate for the 
battery not being user-replaceable. I too wish that I could replace all the 
batteries in my devices, but the trend seems to be for batteries to be sealed 
in in favour of more compact devices and better battery life. The reality is 
that you have a tiny Bluetooth tracker, on at all times, guaranteed to last for 
at least a year, which doesn’t seem so bad. I’d certainly love for the 
technology to be improved so the battery could last far more than a year.

Whether or not Tile is valuable to you depends on your needs. As someone who 
constantly leaves my keys, wallet, bags, etc. lying around I have absolutely 
loved my Tiles as they have basically taken the stress out of locating my stuff 
when I’m in a hurry. The Tile is loud enough that I can usually hear it 
throughout my house, so if I’ve lost my keys or other possessions it saves me 
the trouble of touching and exploring every surface until I locate them. I 
agree with you about the privacy concerns (not to mention the impact on battery 
life) with having location tracking on all the time, but you can turn that off 
if desired and still use all the other features of Tile. You can also ping your 
phone by double-pressing any Tile, which I also used to use a fair amount 
before getting an Apple Watch.

As others have mentioned the accessibility of the Tile iOS app has 
deteriorated, and I’m really disappointed to hear that you can’t create an 
account independently. I recently reset my iPhone, and I was able to log into 
my existing account without sighted help. The iPhone app has a number of 
unlabeled elements which can be worked with if needed, but the Apple Watch app 
is perfectly accessible. I’d certainly encourage others to lobby the Tile folks 
to work on improving the accessibility of their iOS app.

All this to say quite frankly I’ve really enjoyed my Tiles and have found 
they’ve improved my workflow. Still, there’s improvement needed, especially 
with the iOS app.


> On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:53:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pablo,
>  
> Everybody decides what to spend money on and how connected one wants to be. I 
> didn't say the Tile is a bad thing, I just made a point about how some 
> technology is created to make you continuously spend money, how many 
> companies try to collect as much information about your habits and likes as 
> possible and how many products are also designed not to last too long and to 
> be replaced rather than repaired which of course adds to one of the biggest 
> but least discussed issues of modern life - garbage.
> If you like the Tile anbd find it useful that's great, I was just saying that 
> my personal choice is that I would not buy a product like the Tile which I 
> know I have to replace in a year or a bit more than a year. I dislike the 
> idea that the company says they can do what they want with the information 
> they collect and I wonder what happens to the Tile when the battery is done, 
> do you send it back to the company when they send the replacement or do you 
> throw it in the trash or recycling bin? Given the cost and how much shipping 
> costs I somehow don't think they'll send you a prepaid return label so you 
> can mail it in to them where they replace the battery and use it again.
> Another great example of waste is with most printers today. You can buy one 
> for $50 to $100, when the ink runs out it's often cheaper to throw it away 
> and buy a new one because often new cartridges cost as much as the printer. 
> If something happens there is no way it can or will be repaired because again 
> it would cost more to do that than to buy a new printer. Then there is all 
> the packaging, many small things come in big blister packs and all of it goes 
> in the garbage which is why there is a pile of junk floating in the pacific 
> that is twice the size of Texas and that's just the north pacific patch (one 
> out of 5 garbage patches in our various oceans).
> All that plastic is broken down by sunlight, the salt water and waves and now 
> is starting to show up in the fish we buy at the super market. I think that 
> problem is just beginning and they now found traces of micro plastic not just 
> in the fish stomachs but actually inside the flesh and nobody even knows yet 
> what consequences this will have on our health in the long run. Most people 
> as well as many companies make a big point about "being green", they drive 
> electric cars and design office buildings that are energy efficient while 
> along they way they continue to produce garbage in record levels. Most of us 
> don't plan ahead so we bring reuseable bags to the supermarket to pu

Re: Bible apps

[Wayne Scott]

Another good Bible app is Through the Word.  I use it in 
conjuction with the Bible app oYouVersion.


- Original Message -
From: "pdllogan77 - GMail" On Feb 7, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Michael Feir  
wrote:



 You get the app for free but need to buy the audio version of 
the bible if you want that.  You can buy just the old or new 
testament if that is all you want.  The text version of the New 
King James bible is free.  You can also get what they call a 
study bible which you can purchase.  It has notes and things.  
There are also bible plans and other free resources available in 
the app.  It all works fine with Voiceover.


 On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:54 PM James Gibson 
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On Feb 7, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Jennie Facer 
 wrote:


I like the app that is just cvalled Bible from Life church.

Jenn

Sent from Jennie Facer's iPad Pro!

On Feb 7, 2017, at 1:49 PM, James Gibson 
 wrote:


Is there any good Bible apps out there that are good for the 
iPhone SE?


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Re: tunein radio opinion

[Wayne Merritt]

I think it depends on what you are interested in. If you are a sports
nut, love audio books, commercial free music and podcasts, then it's
great. I miss some of the times that I listened to Sirius Satellite
Radio, for the channels and some of the personalities. However, there
were also a number of times when my signal would go out and there
would be dead air. That hasn't happened a lot yet on TuneIn. Also,
TuneIn seems to be cheaper monthly than Sirius was. Perhaps the
commercial free music channels alone would be cheap on Sirius, but
throw in all of the other channels, and the total cost is much more
than TuneIn. Another thing to watch with TuneIn is that it is not
using your location to get radio station location. That will also drop
your battery fast. I turned that off some time ago. It isn't a big
deal though since I can access areas by location through the Browse
tab. I like TuneIn Premium for the NFL games each fall. I am starting
to listen to some audio books there too, but that is not as good as
with a service like Audible. However, unlike with Audible, I don't
have to pay per book on TuneIn, which is nice.

Jmt,
Wayne

On 2/8/17, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> I love it because I can listen to the sports programs. You have to be
> careful though, because unlike serious you will find yourself using cellular
> data if you're not on Wi-Fi.
>
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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>> We didn't find tunein premium worth the $10 a month.
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>> after 11 years of sirius I changed to tune in.
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Re: tunein radio opinion

[Nancy Badger]

I love it because I can listen to the sports programs. You have to be careful 
though, because unlike serious you will find yourself using cellular data if 
you're not on Wi-Fi.

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> We didn't find tunein premium worth the $10 a month.
> 
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> after 11 years of sirius I changed to tune in.
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RE: can't activate password text field

[Karl Smith]

I didn't try this but I will the next time I try this. Thanks.

Karl


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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 5:20 PM
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Subject: RE: can't activate password text field

Did you swipe up with 3 fingers to make sure the page that the password field 
actually had focus? Sometimes you may have 3 or 4 pages and while Voiceover 
will tell you there is a password field, if you are still on page 1 and it is 
on page 4 it may not gain focus when you double tap on it.

Regards,
Sieghardyou 

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Subject: can't activate password text field

I have an iPhone 6S with IOS 10.2.1 and noticed a problem today. While trying 
to log onto a wireless network in our hotel I was unable to activate the text 
field where the password should be entered. I finally had to turn off VO and 
have my sighted daughter enter it. This worked perfectly. Any ideas?

Karl


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Re: holiday list

[Paul Richard McGann]

thank you, and I do follow easter, but other years, they are in different 
not same. wink!



-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: holiday list

Paul,

I can tell you that Easter Sunday 2017 is on April 16. (I'd google what date
in a year it is on, if otherwise I didn't know.)

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Richard McGann

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: holiday list

to all,

I was at apple store as I showed the salesperson about app called
hoidayl;ist. I did download holidaylst four years ago as my friend
expalined. when I use the app, it heped me knowing the dates when next
holidays would be like new year's day, mlk day, ground hog day, valentine
day, presidents day, etc. it did upgrade every year since 2012 and last year
it was made for 2016 as I checked for day light time and day standard and
day saving, etc as I can see good time and arrnaged for what to do. it would
help me knowing before I make plans to go out on vacation or some special
events and others. very hepful.

but now holidaylist has not devleoped and has not upgraded. it would not do
automatically for later in future. I know easter time always change a lot
every year and it would be easier fo rme to check the year and go through
which dates easter could be onand I would prepare. but now I am uck.

today I intalled usa holidays app, and I am not hapy as I have to add
everything for this. for easter, how I know which month and which date, and
also day standard and day saving change ovember and march but which days???
I wish it would come automatically.

I know about calendar app, but not helpful.

any suggestion! thank you1

respectfully,
rich

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Re: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

[Grant]

Just to chime in, the Messenger app is broken for me as well. I am using an 
iPhone 6S Plus running iOS 10.2.1 along with the latest version of the Facebook 
Messenger app as of this afternoon. I can read message threads, but can no 
longer send messages because I just see several unlabelled buttons, none of 
which appear to send the message. I wonder whether this has to do with changes 
that are being gradually rolled out on Facebook's end. In any case, it's quite 
challenging because the mobile Facebook site does not allow you to send 
messages on an iOS device, instead prompting me to use the Messenger app. I've 
had to force the desktop site to load in Safari, which is working for the 
moment.

Thanks,

Grant

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Davy,
>  
> You should qualify your messages with a statement that this seems to be a 
> problem for some users only. If somebody who has never read your messages or 
> any of the threads would read it they might think this is a universal issue 
> and it is not. The last time you reported this I checked Messenger on my 6S 
> Plus and had no issues whatsoever and others reported the same. I just 
> checked again and for me Messenger remains fully accessible with all buttons 
> properly labeled except for that "Tab 3 of 5" on the main Messenger screen.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs
>  
> Hi
>  
> The situation with the latest update of messenger v104.0 brings no solutions 
> with unlabeled buttons in the message windows.
> Regards
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Re: holiday list

[Flor Lynch]

Paul,

I can tell you that Easter Sunday 2017 is on April 16. (I'd google what date 
in a year it is on, if otherwise I didn't know.)


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Richard McGann

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: holiday list

to all,

I was at apple store as I showed the salesperson about app called
hoidayl;ist. I did download holidaylst four years ago as my friend
expalined. when I use the app, it heped me knowing the dates when next
holidays would be like new year's day, mlk day, ground hog day, valentine
day, presidents day, etc. it did upgrade every year since 2012 and last year
it was made for 2016 as I checked for day light time and day standard and
day saving, etc as I can see good time and arrnaged for what to do. it would
help me knowing before I make plans to go out on vacation or some special
events and others. very hepful.

but now holidaylist has not devleoped and has not upgraded. it would not do
automatically for later in future. I know easter time always change a lot
every year and it would be easier fo rme to check the year and go through
which dates easter could be onand I would prepare. but now I am uck.

today I intalled usa holidays app, and I am not hapy as I have to add
everything for this. for easter, how I know which month and which date, and
also day standard and day saving change ovember and march but which days???
I wish it would come automatically.

I know about calendar app, but not helpful.

any suggestion! thank you1

respectfully,
rich

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RE: tunein radio opinion

[Larry Lumpkin]

We didn't find tunein premium worth the $10 a month.


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Subject: tunein radio opinion


after 11 years of sirius I changed to tune in.

i admit it is not quite as good, especially for music, but worth $10.75.

would like to hear from others on this.

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tunein radio opinion

[david gross]

after 11 years of sirius I changed to tune in.

i admit it is not quite as good, especially for music, but worth $10.75.

would like to hear from others on this.

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RE: can't activate password text field

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you swipe up with 3 fingers to make sure the page that the password field 
actually had focus? Sometimes you may have 3 or 4 pages and while Voiceover 
will tell you there is a password field, if you are still on page 1 and it is 
on page 4 it may not gain focus when you double tap on it.

Regards,
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Subject: can't activate password text field

I have an iPhone 6S with IOS 10.2.1 and noticed a problem today. While trying 
to log onto a wireless network in our hotel I was unable to activate the text 
field where the password should be entered. I finally had to turn off VO and 
have my sighted daughter enter it. This worked perfectly. Any ideas?

Karl


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can't activate password text field

[Karl Smith]

I have an iPhone 6S with IOS 10.2.1 and noticed a problem today. While trying 
to log onto a wireless network in our hotel I was unable to activate the text 
field where the password should be entered. I finally had to turn off VO and 
have my sighted daughter enter it. This worked perfectly. Any ideas?

Karl


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Re: holiday list

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,

I was at apple store as I showed the salesperson about app called 
hoidayl;ist. I did download holidaylst four years ago as my friend 
expalined. when I use the app, it heped me knowing the dates when next 
holidays would be like new year's day, mlk day, ground hog day, valentine 
day, presidents day, etc. it did upgrade every year since 2012 and last year 
it was made for 2016 as I checked for day light time and day standard and 
day saving, etc as I can see good time and arrnaged for what to do. it would 
help me knowing before I make plans to go out on vacation or some special 
events and others. very hepful.


but now holidaylist has not devleoped and has not upgraded. it would not do 
automatically for later in future. I know easter time always change a lot 
every year and it would be easier fo rme to check the year and go through 
which dates easter could be onand I would prepare. but now I am uck.


today I intalled usa holidays app, and I am not hapy as I have to add 
everything for this. for easter, how I know which month and which date, and 
also day standard and day saving change ovember and march but which days??? 
I wish it would come automatically.


I know about calendar app, but not helpful.

any suggestion! thank you1

respectfully,
rich

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RE: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume you have tried to reboot your phone? I also would turn the phone off, 
remove the SIM card and reinsert it, then turn the phone back on and try it.
If all of this doesn't work you probably should contact your carrier.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

Hi,
have checked this and all is correct. I forgot to mention before I have tried 
calling the number from another phone and am told the number is not available. 
I can make calls from the phone. 
Max.
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 8:30 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you checked the volume of your ringer, maybe it's turned all the way 
> down. Go to Settings > Sound and then make sure it's up all the way and that 
> change with buttons is off.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Agent086b
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 12:53 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked
> 
> Thanks, my phone won’t ring either.
> Max.
>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 7:49 am, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I've had a similar issue where I receive calls but my phone doesn't vibrate. 
>> iOS 10.3 was supposed to fix this but hasn't.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Agent086b  
>> To: "iPhone List,"  
>> Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:32 pm
>> Subject: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
>>> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked 
>>> both on the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb 
>>> is off. please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
>>> Thanks for any pointers.
>>> Max.
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RE: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

[Cristóbal]

I too haven’t had any problems with unlabeled buttons  in  themes sanger app. 

One accessibility issue I’d been meaning to write about is with links not being 
announced by VoiceOver in messenger. 

Is there perhaps something I’m missing or has it  always been  that VO only 
says seen for a message in a thread. I have never been able to figure out how 
to access links or get VO to say what they are when someone  sends me 
something. Be it a YouTube video or some other link. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 12:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

 

Hi Davy,

 

You should qualify your messages with a statement that this seems to be a 
problem for some users only. If somebody who has never read your messages or 
any of the threads would read it they might think this is a universal issue and 
it is not. The last time you reported this I checked Messenger on my 6S Plus 
and had no issues whatsoever and others reported the same. I just checked again 
and for me Messenger remains fully accessible with all buttons properly labeled 
except for that "Tab 3 of 5" on the main Messenger screen.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

 

Hi 

 

The situation with the latest update of messenger v104.0 brings no solutions 
with unlabeled buttons in the message windows.

Regards

Davy 

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Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Agent086b]

Hi,
have checked this and all is correct. I forgot to mention before I have tried 
calling the number from another phone and am told the number is not available. 
I can make calls from the phone. 
Max.
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 8:30 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you checked the volume of your ringer, maybe it's turned all the way 
> down. Go to Settings > Sound and then make sure it's up all the way and that 
> change with buttons is off.
> 
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> Subject: Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked
> 
> Thanks, my phone won’t ring either.
> Max.
>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 7:49 am, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I've had a similar issue where I receive calls but my phone doesn't vibrate. 
>> iOS 10.3 was supposed to fix this but hasn't.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Agent086b  
>> To: "iPhone List,"  
>> Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:32 pm
>> Subject: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
>>> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked 
>>> both on the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb 
>>> is off. please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
>>> Thanks for any pointers.
>>> Max.
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Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Agent086b]

hi, no do not disturb does not show being on.
Max.
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 8:30 am, Christina  wrote:
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> Is there any chance that you have do not disturb turned on? On my phone, if I 
> touch the status bar, if I flick just to the right of the time… It will say 
> do not disturb if it is indeed enabled.  I hope you get this resolved very 
> soon. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
>> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both 
>> on the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb is 
>> off. please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
>> Thanks for any pointers.
>> Max.
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RE: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you checked the volume of your ringer, maybe it's turned all the way down. 
Go to Settings > Sound and then make sure it's up all the way and that change 
with buttons is off.

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Agent086b
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 12:53 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

Thanks, my phone won’t ring either.
Max.
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 7:49 am, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> I've had a similar issue where I receive calls but my phone doesn't vibrate. 
> iOS 10.3 was supposed to fix this but hasn't.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: "iPhone List,"  
> Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:32 pm
> Subject: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
>> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both 
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>> off. please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
>> Thanks for any pointers.
>> Max.
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Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Christina]

Is there any chance that you have do not disturb turned on? On my phone, if I 
touch the status bar, if I flick just to the right of the time… It will say do 
not disturb if it is indeed enabled.  I hope you get this resolved very soon. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
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> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both 
> on the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb is off. 
> please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
> Thanks for any pointers.
> Max.
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Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Agent086b]

Thanks, my phone won’t ring either.
Max.
> On 9 Feb 2017, at 7:49 am, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
> I've had a similar issue where I receive calls but my phone doesn't vibrate. 
> iOS 10.3 was supposed to fix this but hasn't.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: "iPhone List,"  
> Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:32 pm
> Subject: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
>> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both 
>> on the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb is 
>> off. please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
>> Thanks for any pointers.
>> Max.
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Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Kelby Carlson]

I've had a similar issue where I receive calls but my phone doesn't vibrate. 
iOS 10.3 was supposed to fix this but hasn't.

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To: "iPhone List,"  
Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:32 pm
Subject: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

>
>
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> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both 
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> please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
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Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Agent086b]

Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both on 
the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb is off. 
please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
Thanks for any pointers.
Max.

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RE: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Davy,

You should qualify your messages with a statement that this seems to be a 
problem for some users only. If somebody who has never read your messages or 
any of the threads would read it they might think this is a universal issue and 
it is not. The last time you reported this I checked Messenger on my 6S Plus 
and had no issues whatsoever and others reported the same. I just checked again 
and for me Messenger remains fully accessible with all buttons properly labeled 
except for that "Tab 3 of 5" on the main Messenger screen.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

Hi

The situation with the latest update of messenger v104.0 brings no solutions 
with unlabeled buttons in the message windows.
Regards
Davy
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RE: Digiteyes purchased

[Fazil]

Even for the free apps, when I am in the security dialog box where you enter 
your password to confirm the download, the dialog has two buttons, cancel 
button and buy-button instead of ok-button. Is this a recent change?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Digiteyes purchased

 

This has happened to me although not with DigitEyes; just go ahead and click 
the “Price Tag” button, if it then changes to “Buy” you’ll need to contact 
Apple to get the issue straightened out. What will probably happen (at least 
hopefully) is that the label will change to “Purchased” whereupon simply 
clicking the button again will initiate a new install with no charges incurred.



- Bill

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rest to God!”

- Julie ???

 

On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:

 

I purchased Digiteyes a few years ago.  For quite some time I haven’t had it on 
my iPhone.  I went to get it today and it says $9.99.  I didn’t click on it 
because it looked like it was going to charge me again.  Should I call them or 
is there another way to verify my purchase of it?

 

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latest messenger update still contains accessibility bugs

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi 

The situation with the latest update of messenger v104.0 brings no solutions 
with unlabeled buttons in the message windows.
Regards
Davy 

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Re: Digiteyes purchased

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This has happened to me although not with DigitEyes; just go ahead and click 
the “Price Tag” button, if it then changes to “Buy” you’ll need to contact 
Apple to get the issue straightened out. What will probably happen (at least 
hopefully) is that the label will change to “Purchased” whereupon simply 
clicking the button again will initiate a new install with no charges incurred.
> 
> - Bill
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> the rest to God!”
> - Julie ???

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> I purchased Digiteyes a few years ago.  For quite some time I haven’t had it 
> on my iPhone.  I went to get it today and it says $9.99.  I didn’t click on 
> it because it looked like it was going to charge me again.  Should I call 
> them or is there another way to verify my purchase of it?
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Re: Mute Switch on iPhone SE, IOS 9

[Scott Berry]

Hi Richard,

That’s correct.  I have found this also.  I have a bunch of news apps on my 
iPad and unfortunately when I turn this or Do Not Disturb off I can’t get the 
speech to knock off it’s speaking so not sure what the deal is with what is 
going on.


> On Feb 8, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> Recently I discovered something interesting about the mute switch on the 
> side of my wife's phone.
> She has several apps on her phone that stream live feeds,
> however, the QVC app is the only one silenced by moving the mute switch to 
> the mute position.
> Does anyone have any ideas why this would work this way?
> Thanks,
> Rick Justice 
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Mute Switch on iPhone SE, IOS 9

[Richard]

Hi list,
Recently I discovered something interesting about the mute switch on the 
side of my wife's phone.
She has several apps on her phone that stream live feeds,
however, the QVC app is the only one silenced by moving the mute switch to 
the mute position.
Does anyone have any ideas why this would work this way?
Thanks,
Rick Justice 

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Re: Tunein radio

['Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone]

Daniel, 
Thanks to you and Arnold for your help. I am unsubscribed. Thanks again. 


Bud Kennedy 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Daniel L. Gervais 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You just have to follow the same steps and when you reach the subscriptions 
> and select TuneIn, near the bottom, there will be options for a monthly or 
> yearly subscription.  I am guessing that you just have to select the one you 
> want and confirm or buy.
> 
> Although if you wish to re-subscribe once your free trial is over, I believe 
> that TuneIn will disappear from your account's subscription list.  But if you 
> find premium content and try to stream it, I assume that the same message 
> prompting you to subscribe, similar to when you first initiated your free 
> trial, will appear and you can complete the subscription that way too.
> 
> 
> From:Wayne Merritt 
> To:
> Date:2017/02/08 9:28 AM
> Subject:Re: Tunein radio
> 
> One thing to note with TuneIn Premium is that it includes the ability
> to listen to audio books. Though one cannot change the speed of the
> book, you can listen to the bestsellers and books in other categories.
> I was planning on canceling my TuneIN Premium subscription after the
> Super Bowl, but yesterday I found several current titles which I want
> to read. There doesn't appear to be a way to search for books, or a
> huge selection of books. But they do seem to have a variety. Finally,
> if I stop my TuneIn Premium subscription, is it easy to start it up
> again? Would I go to the same place in my account Settings?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 2/8/17, Daniel L. Gervais  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In order to unsubscribe, you need to go into your device's settings, under
>> iTunes and App Store and log into your account.  Near the top, your u'll
>> find your username, double tap on it and select view account, I think that
>> is what it says.  Once logged in, you can view different parts of your
>> account and make changes.  Swipe until you hear subscriptions and tap on
>> this.  Then a few seconds later, you will find a list of all services your
>> subscribed to.  Select Tune In and once the new page loads, near the bottom
>> you'll find the option to unsubscribe .  Select this option and then select
>> confirm when asked and that is it.
>> 
>> I subscribed for the free 30 day trial for premium so I could stream the
>> Superbowl and don't plan on continuing once the trial is over.
>> 
>> Hope that helps!
>> 
>> 
>> From:Judy Holloway 
>> To:
>> Date:2017/02/07 5:12 PM
>> Subject:Re: Tunein radio
>> 
>> I think you might be able to unsubscribe in the settings menu, but I'm not
>> sure. There's a link in the email you got when you subscribed to premium.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:04 AM, 'Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> How do you unsubscribe from Tunein Radio? Any help will be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Bud Kennedy
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Digiteyes purchased

[Tom Rash]

I purchased Digiteyes a few years ago.  For quite some time I haven't had it
on my iPhone.  I went to get it today and it says $9.99.  I didn't click on
it because it looked like it was going to charge me again.  Should I call
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Re: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an iPad Mini to a Windows PC"]

[Chris Chaffin]

If just using the on screen keyboard, then I would agree that email might be 
managed and done more efficiently using a computer, but either using a BT 
keyboard, or by using the On screen braille keyboard or an app like MBraille, 
email can be managed just as quickly and efficiently by using an i device.
I myself have managed all of my email, including work email, just by using my 
iPhone for the last 2 or 3 years, and I have actually found that I manage my 
email better since I can read and send messages no matter where I am.  I do not 
have to wait until I am sitting in front of a computer to do it.
By the use of the On screen keyboard and the MBraille app, this allows me to 
type just as quickly as on a computer keyboard. 

In the end, this is really a personal preference and everyone should manage 
their email in the way that best fits their needs.
If someone wants to use Outlook on their computer to manage and do their email, 
there's nothing wrong with that.  But for me, I know what works for myself, and 
helps me be as efficient in my busy life.

Chris


> On Feb 8, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A physical keyboard is generally faster than the onscreen keyboard, but these 
> days, I almost always use MBraiile on my iPhone and iPod Touch 6 when 
> replying and even writing up notes. It is almost as fast as an external 
> keyboard, and I don't have to carry anything extra.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:02 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Argument aside, I find I can navigate and type on a desktop keyboard much 
>> quicker and efficiently than on any kind of handheld 
>> without physical keys. It's just what we got used to.
>> I finally bought a full-size bluetooth to try on an iPad Mini, still trying, 
>> iOs navigation just isn't as simple as using the arrow 
>> keys like it used to be.
>> So I can never understand the developer claims it is all in the interest of 
>> efficiency. Sure, you can do more when not at a desk; 
>> that, I admit,  is progress.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 12:31 AM
>> Subject: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an 
>> iPad Mini to a Windows PC"]
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, no where did I say that you said we can't handle emails on
>> our smart phones. You don't want to be taken out of context, so please
>> extend that courtesy to others on the list as well.
>> 
>> In fact, what you did say, and I quote, is "... with a computer you will
>> be doing the same thing in seconds, instead hours." All I said in my
>> email, which you can read below, is that this is an exaggeration and is
>> only your experience and your opinion.
>> 
>> If you can read, reply to, file and delete a hundred message on your PC
>> in a few seconds then that's great, and you are infinitely more
>> proficient with email on your PC than I am. On the other hand if it
>> takes you hours to read, reply to, move and delete a hundred emails on
>> your smart phone then you're either doing some complicated email
>> formatting like Seeghard describes, or I'm a lot more proficient when it
>> comes to handling email on a smart phone then you are.
>> 
>> In fact, there are some tasks I prefer to do on my iPhone. For example,
>> if I'm going to read, delete and move a bunch of emails at work, I'll do
>> that on my iPhone before I'll do that in Outlook on my PC. I just find
>> that Outlook with JAWS or NVDA just doesn't handle threading as eel as
>> the Mail app does on the iPhone. If I were also talking about replying
>> to and writing emails then yes, I'm going to go to my PC first. Also, if
>> I were comparing the Mail app on my iPhone to Thunderbird with Orca on
>> Linux, then I'd take that combination on my PC over the iPhone, but
>> that's not an option for me at the job.
>> 
>> I agree that doing some things, such as content generation, is generally
>> more efficient on a PC than on a smart phone, but a lot of things
>> related to content consumption is just as easy if not easier on a tablet
>> or smart phone. My problem with your statement is that you're making
>> wild exaggerations, you're stating your opinion as fact and you're not
>> providing any use cases or details about what you're doing that's so
>> much more efficient on your PC.
>> 
>> I also don't agree that your smart phone or tablet is a supplementary
>> device. It may be in your case, and that's fine. I know plenty of people
>> though who use a tablet now as their primary device, and yes that is in
>> an office setting. I'm not there yet, but it isn't because mobile
>> devices don't have the necessary computing power. It has to do more with
>> the state of the apps, their accessibility, and keyboard support.
>> Convertible devices are also blurring the distinction between mobile
>> devices and laptops, and there's no reason to think this trend won't
>> continue. Look at the specs of you

Re: Tunein radio

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi,

You just have to follow the same steps and when you reach the subscriptions and 
select TuneIn, near the bottom, there will be options for a monthly or yearly 
subscription.  I am guessing that you just have to select the one you want and 
confirm or buy.

Although if you wish to re-subscribe once your free trial is over, I believe 
that TuneIn will disappear from your account's subscription list.  But if you 
find premium content and try to stream it, I assume that the same message 
prompting you to subscribe, similar to when you first initiated your free 
trial, will appear and you can complete the subscription that way too.


From:   Wayne Merritt 
To: 
Date:   2017/02/08 9:28 AM
Subject:Re: Tunein radio

One thing to note with TuneIn Premium is that it includes the ability
to listen to audio books. Though one cannot change the speed of the
book, you can listen to the bestsellers and books in other categories.
I was planning on canceling my TuneIN Premium subscription after the
Super Bowl, but yesterday I found several current titles which I want
to read. There doesn't appear to be a way to search for books, or a
huge selection of books. But they do seem to have a variety. Finally,
if I stop my TuneIn Premium subscription, is it easy to start it up
again? Would I go to the same place in my account Settings?

Thanks,
Wayne

On 2/8/17, Daniel L. Gervais  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In order to unsubscribe, you need to go into your device's settings, under
> iTunes and App Store and log into your account.  Near the top, your u'll
> find your username, double tap on it and select view account, I think that
> is what it says.  Once logged in, you can view different parts of your
> account and make changes.  Swipe until you hear subscriptions and tap on
> this.  Then a few seconds later, you will find a list of all services your
> subscribed to.  Select Tune In and once the new page loads, near the bottom
> you'll find the option to unsubscribe .  Select this option and then select
> confirm when asked and that is it.
>
> I subscribed for the free 30 day trial for premium so I could stream the
> Superbowl and don't plan on continuing once the trial is over.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
> From: Judy Holloway 
> To:   
> Date: 2017/02/07 5:12 PM
> Subject:  Re: Tunein radio
>
> I think you might be able to unsubscribe in the settings menu, but I'm not
> sure. There's a link in the email you got when you subscribed to premium.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:04 AM, 'Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
>
>
> How do you unsubscribe from Tunein Radio? Any help will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Bud Kennedy
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Tunein radio

[Wayne Merritt]

One thing to note with TuneIn Premium is that it includes the ability
to listen to audio books. Though one cannot change the speed of the
book, you can listen to the bestsellers and books in other categories.
I was planning on canceling my TuneIN Premium subscription after the
Super Bowl, but yesterday I found several current titles which I want
to read. There doesn't appear to be a way to search for books, or a
huge selection of books. But they do seem to have a variety. Finally,
if I stop my TuneIn Premium subscription, is it easy to start it up
again? Would I go to the same place in my account Settings?

Thanks,
Wayne

On 2/8/17, Daniel L. Gervais  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In order to unsubscribe, you need to go into your device's settings, under
> iTunes and App Store and log into your account.  Near the top, your u'll
> find your username, double tap on it and select view account, I think that
> is what it says.  Once logged in, you can view different parts of your
> account and make changes.  Swipe until you hear subscriptions and tap on
> this.  Then a few seconds later, you will find a list of all services your
> subscribed to.  Select Tune In and once the new page loads, near the bottom
> you'll find the option to unsubscribe .  Select this option and then select
> confirm when asked and that is it.
>
> I subscribed for the free 30 day trial for premium so I could stream the
> Superbowl and don't plan on continuing once the trial is over.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
> From: Judy Holloway 
> To:   
> Date: 2017/02/07 5:12 PM
> Subject:  Re: Tunein radio
>
> I think you might be able to unsubscribe in the settings menu, but I'm not
> sure. There's a link in the email you got when you subscribed to premium.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>
> How do you unsubscribe from Tunein Radio? Any help will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Bud Kennedy
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audio Labels

[Harry Bell]

Thank you! I'll give it a try! Harry

> On 8 Feb 2017, at 12:08, Richard  wrote:
> 
> The best app I've seen is Digit Eyes, which costs about $10 US, but well 
> worth it!
> 
> http://www.digit-eyes.com/
> 
> It is a bar code scanner that works very well, and has the ability to create
> audio labels, text labels as well as laundry labels.
> There is the option of printing your own labels at home, or purchasing them 
> from the website.
> 
> HTH,
> Rick Justice 
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Re: direct tv now, voiceover now speaks the channels!

[Kliphton Miller]

If you use the guide feature on the phone, it will speak the channel before 
announcing the show.
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> The app is still pretty hit and miss on the iPhone. It looks like the only 
> way to hear the channels is to use explore by touch rather than by flicking 
> on the screen. If you use flicking to move around the screen it is pretty 
> confusing to use the app. If you are comfortable using explore by touch it is 
> not to bad. You seem to get a lot more information if you do use explore by 
> touch on the iPhone app.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, those who had a big gripe about the channels not being spoken, you 
>>> will now be happy to know that when scrolling down the list of channels, it 
>>> now says the name of the channel, not just button.  The app is also a 
>>> little faster.  So I guess all the requests must have been heard.  Didn’t 
>>> bother me, but it does help.
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Re: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an iPad Mini to a Windows PC"]

[Richard Turner]

A physical keyboard is generally faster than the onscreen keyboard, but these 
days, I almost always use MBraiile on my iPhone and iPod Touch 6 when replying 
and even writing up notes. It is almost as fast as an external keyboard, and I 
don't have to carry anything extra.
Richard


> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:02 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Argument aside, I find I can navigate and type on a desktop keyboard much 
> quicker and efficiently than on any kind of handheld 
> without physical keys. It's just what we got used to.
> I finally bought a full-size bluetooth to try on an iPad Mini, still trying, 
> iOs navigation just isn't as simple as using the arrow 
> keys like it used to be.
> So I can never understand the developer claims it is all in the interest of 
> efficiency. Sure, you can do more when not at a desk; 
> that, I admit,  is progress.
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 12:31 AM
> Subject: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an 
> iPad Mini to a Windows PC"]
> 
> 
> First of all, no where did I say that you said we can't handle emails on
> our smart phones. You don't want to be taken out of context, so please
> extend that courtesy to others on the list as well.
> 
> In fact, what you did say, and I quote, is "... with a computer you will
> be doing the same thing in seconds, instead hours." All I said in my
> email, which you can read below, is that this is an exaggeration and is
> only your experience and your opinion.
> 
> If you can read, reply to, file and delete a hundred message on your PC
> in a few seconds then that's great, and you are infinitely more
> proficient with email on your PC than I am. On the other hand if it
> takes you hours to read, reply to, move and delete a hundred emails on
> your smart phone then you're either doing some complicated email
> formatting like Seeghard describes, or I'm a lot more proficient when it
> comes to handling email on a smart phone then you are.
> 
> In fact, there are some tasks I prefer to do on my iPhone. For example,
> if I'm going to read, delete and move a bunch of emails at work, I'll do
> that on my iPhone before I'll do that in Outlook on my PC. I just find
> that Outlook with JAWS or NVDA just doesn't handle threading as eel as
> the Mail app does on the iPhone. If I were also talking about replying
> to and writing emails then yes, I'm going to go to my PC first. Also, if
> I were comparing the Mail app on my iPhone to Thunderbird with Orca on
> Linux, then I'd take that combination on my PC over the iPhone, but
> that's not an option for me at the job.
> 
> I agree that doing some things, such as content generation, is generally
> more efficient on a PC than on a smart phone, but a lot of things
> related to content consumption is just as easy if not easier on a tablet
> or smart phone. My problem with your statement is that you're making
> wild exaggerations, you're stating your opinion as fact and you're not
> providing any use cases or details about what you're doing that's so
> much more efficient on your PC.
> 
> I also don't agree that your smart phone or tablet is a supplementary
> device. It may be in your case, and that's fine. I know plenty of people
> though who use a tablet now as their primary device, and yes that is in
> an office setting. I'm not there yet, but it isn't because mobile
> devices don't have the necessary computing power. It has to do more with
> the state of the apps, their accessibility, and keyboard support.
> Convertible devices are also blurring the distinction between mobile
> devices and laptops, and there's no reason to think this trend won't
> continue. Look at the specs of your high end smart phones and the specs
> you need on your PC to accomplish the same tasks. The deltas have shrunk
> incredibly over the last few years, if they even exist at all any more.
> 
> You can relegate your smart phone and tablet to a supplementary device
> if you want, but I'm glad their are innovators at Canonical, Microsoft
> and elsewhere that realize there's no reason why one device can't bridge
> the gap between the mobile and desktop spaces.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 07/02/17 10:21, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
>> Just research, just ask on blogs, just see it by yourself. Christopher, I 
>> understand that what I am saying is a little bit painful 
>> for smart phone users, but we need to be realistic. Smart phones are 
>> supplementary tools, they are not work tools with enough 
>> power to replace a computer. No, no yet.
>> Of course that when you are traveling you use your phone, supplementary 
>> tool. I am not saying that you cannot use your phone to 
>> read or reply an email, did I say so?
>> No right?
>> Ok, don't take my emails out of the point. I am saying that people using 
>> smart phones are not that efficient managing emails as 
>> they are using a computer. Just take that statement, not 

Re: direct tv now, voiceover now speaks the channels!

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
The app is still pretty hit and miss on the iPhone. It looks like the only way 
to hear the channels is to use explore by touch rather than by flicking on the 
screen. If you use flicking to move around the screen it is pretty confusing to 
use the app. If you are comfortable using explore by touch it is not to bad. 
You seem to get a lot more information if you do use explore by touch on the 
iPhone app.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Well, those who had a big gripe about the channels not being spoken, you 
>> will now be happy to know that when scrolling down the list of channels, it 
>> now says the name of the channel, not just button.  The app is also a little 
>> faster.  So I guess all the requests must have been heard.  Didn’t bother 
>> me, but it does help.
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Audio Labels

[Richard]

The best app I've seen is Digit Eyes, which costs about $10 US, but well 
worth it!

http://www.digit-eyes.com/

It is a bar code scanner that works very well, and has the ability to create
audio labels, text labels as well as laundry labels.
There is the option of printing your own labels at home, or purchasing them 
from the website.

HTH,
Rick Justice 

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Re: color identifier app

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Lois,
Which one do you have? The rainbow or the other one?
Thanks so much, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 8 Feb 2017, at 10:01, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Yes, it will.  I use it on my washer dial to tell me which light is lit.  I 
> just wish it came to more of a point.  The end of it is about an inch and a 
> half by a half inch, and the lens is in the middle, indented.
> 
> I absolutely love it for identifying colors and have had it for years.
> 
> Take care,
> Lois
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 4:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: color identifier app
> 
> Richard,
> Will the colourino or the rainbow tell you the colour and/or the flashing 
> status of LEDs?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2017, at 14:07, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> In the world of standalone color identifiers, yes the Colorino is very good. 
>>  Also the Rainbow 2 by Emerson Electronics is also very good for basic 
>> colors and costs about $50 less than the Colorino.
>> 
>> However, if you want to know if your shirt has a pattern, you will need 
>> either sighted assistance or use an app like iDentifi or TapTapSee.
>> 
>> They will usually also tell you that it is blue, white, red, green flowers 
>> or whatever.
>> Granted, the color accuracy with the iPhone camera is not as good as the 
>> stand alone devices, but it can get you roughly in the ball park.
>> 
>> If you truly want accurate color identification you will have to have a 
>> sighted person assist you in labelling the clothes in some form.
>> Digit-Eyes makes great labels that can be sown into a garment and you can 
>> record as detailed a description as you like, but that is fairly time 
>> intensive.
>> 
>> This is all up to each person's level of detail they wish to know.
>> 
>> I have to admit, while I test all these things for clients, I cheat and just 
>> have my sighted wife tell me what something is and whether they go together. 
>>  What can I say, I'm lazy, grin.
>> 
>> If I was on my own again, I would go the Digit-Eyes label route or cut my 
>> wardrobe back to what it was in my single days where everything matched so 
>> it didn't matter.  I figure since my wife wanted me to dress in more colors, 
>> it is her job to keep things straight, ha, ha.
>> 
>> Later,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: color identifier app
>> 
>> The best option is still a good old stand-alone colour identifier like the 
>> Colorino, it does I think 150 colours, but it speaks them as understandable 
>> colours and not like whatever weird names they come up with like the one you 
>> mentioned. The Colorino will say maybe "Intensive Red" or something like 
>> that, but pretty clear what it means and much more reliable than anything 
>> you can get for the iPhone. They do also seem to last since I had mine for 
>> probably 15 years and all I ever do is to replace the batteries maybe once a 
>> year.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Ulrich
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: color identifier app
>> 
>> Which color identifying app will announce basic primary colors?
>> I've tried apps that announce colors like: Royal Canadian Mist".
>> So what color is that?
>> See what I'm saying?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: color identifier app
>> 
>> 
>> also iDentifi does a good job. but you need to know that none of them are 
>> going to be anywhere near what a sighted person sees, especially with 
>> patterns or different shades.
>> But either app, TapTapSee or iDentifi will be close, depending on lighting 
>> of course.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
>> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:13 PM, "dollar...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is Tap Tap See.  It is free with unlimited for now.  Hope this help 
>>> you.  Scott Dollar
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:04 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
 
 Is there a free and very accessible color identifier app out there?
 
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Re: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an iPad Mini to a Windows PC"]

[rajmund]

they use windows, and with windows, they buy office, which includes 
outlook. there are so many better clients out there, than outlook. I'd 
go off topic, if I started saying how NVDA reads all headers before 
getting to the message list, but, anyway.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 08/02/17 2:16 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:

Sure Chris, Probably it is why companies and people use outlook instead and 
iPhone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an iPad 
Mini to a Windows PC"]


I can download email significantly faster on my iPhone or iPod Touch 6 than I 
can on my Windows 10 64 bit laptop running Outlook 2016.
Plus, the threading on the Apple devices is so far superior than with Outlook, 
I can manage hundreds of emails far easier on the Apple devices.
The use of threading is also why I ask people to start a new thread when they 
want to change topics in a thread. Like the thread that started out about 
getting pictures off an iPad mini, than soon became a thread about handling 
emails on computers VS iPhones.
Once I decide I'm done with a thread, I stop opening the individual messages 
and just delete the thread.
Or, when it is clear that a thread has been taken off topic, I just delete the 
thread.
Saves tons of time.
And, while offices are not going to stop using computers, I use my iPhone a ton 
when I'm out of the office to update my calendar, write up reports, etc. Then 
when I get back to the office, I can get my work done very quickly.
I could go on and on, but won't.
For some, the iPhone iPod, iPad are a secondary device, but for me it is equal 
if not a little ahead of the computer.
I will always turn to the computer for audio editing, but almost everything 
else, I can do as effectively on my Apple devices.
Richard



"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's 
evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett


On Feb 7, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

First of all, no where did I say that you said we can't handle emails on our 
smart phones. You don't want to be taken out of context, so please extend that 
courtesy to others on the list as well.

In fact, what you did say, and I quote, is "... with a computer you will be doing 
the same thing in seconds, instead hours." All I said in my email, which you can 
read below, is that this is an exaggeration and is only your experience and your opinion.

If you can read, reply to, file and delete a hundred message on your PC in a 
few seconds then that's great, and you are infinitely more proficient with 
email on your PC than I am. On the other hand if it takes you hours to read, 
reply to, move and delete a hundred emails on your smart phone then you're 
either doing some complicated email formatting like Seeghard describes, or I'm 
a lot more proficient when it comes to handling email on a smart phone then you 
are.

In fact, there are some tasks I prefer to do on my iPhone. For example, if I'm 
going to read, delete and move a bunch of emails at work, I'll do that on my 
iPhone before I'll do that in Outlook on my PC. I just find that Outlook with 
JAWS or NVDA just doesn't handle threading as eel as the Mail app does on the 
iPhone. If I were also talking about replying to and writing emails then yes, 
I'm going to go to my PC first. Also, if I were comparing the Mail app on my 
iPhone to Thunderbird with Orca on Linux, then I'd take that combination on my 
PC over the iPhone, but that's not an option for me at the job.

I agree that doing some things, such as content generation, is generally more 
efficient on a PC than on a smart phone, but a lot of things related to content 
consumption is just as easy if not easier on a tablet or smart phone. My 
problem with your statement is that you're making wild exaggerations, you're 
stating your opinion as fact and you're not providing any use cases or details 
about what you're doing that's so much more efficient on your PC.

I also don't agree that your smart phone or tablet is a supplementary device. 
It may be in your case, and that's fine. I know plenty of people though who use 
a tablet now as their primary device, and yes that is in an office setting. I'm 
not there yet, but it isn't because mobile devices don't have the necessary 
computing power. It has to do more with the state of the apps, their 
accessibility, and keyboard support. Convertible devices are also blurring the 
distinction between mobile devices and laptops, and there's no reason to think 
this trend won't continue. Look at the specs of your high end smart phones and 
the specs you need on your PC to accomplish the same tasks. The deltas have 
shrunk incredibly over the last few years, if they even exist at all any more.

You can re

Re: Tunein radio

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi,

In order to unsubscribe, you need to go into your device's settings, under 
iTunes and App Store and log into your account.  Near the top, your u'll find 
your username, double tap on it and select view account, I think that is what 
it says.  Once logged in, you can view different parts of your account and make 
changes.  Swipe until you hear subscriptions and tap on this.  Then a few 
seconds later, you will find a list of all services your subscribed to.  Select 
Tune In and once the new page loads, near the bottom you'll find the option to 
unsubscribe .  Select this option and then select confirm when asked and that 
is it.

I subscribed for the free 30 day trial for premium so I could stream the 
Superbowl and don't plan on continuing once the trial is over.

Hope that helps!


From:   Judy Holloway 
To: 
Date:   2017/02/07 5:12 PM
Subject:Re: Tunein radio

I think you might be able to unsubscribe in the settings menu, but I'm not 
sure. There's a link in the email you got when you subscribed to premium. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:04 AM, 'Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone 
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How do you unsubscribe from Tunein Radio? Any help will be greatly appreciated. 

Bud Kennedy 
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Re: direct tv now, voiceover now speaks the channels!

[Kliphton Miller]

I haven’t even checked the IOS app, but it does work on the appleTV4 for sure.  
Come to the weekly apple discussion today, and I will help you with the guide, 
if the time doesn’t work out, email me off list, and we can set something up.  
I will check IOS app too.  The info for the conference is below.
Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held every 
Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph Miller.  In 
this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New devices, features, 
accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this meeting in a app called 
“Zoom.  Download it here
https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i 

At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 participants, so 
it is first come first serve.  All questions and comments are heard just keep 
it civil.
to join this conference, click the following link

https://zoom.us/j/652703259 

As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If you have 
any issues you can email me at: kastle...@icloud.com 

Come and enjoy!


> On Feb 7, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cliff! Thanks so much for this. Is this for both tvOS and iOS? Also, I 
> have a new AppleTV… And I have no idea how to work the guide. Can you provide 
> me with more info on how to do it? Maybe it's just my ineptness. When I refer 
> to the guide, I mean in DirecTV now. Thank you so much! Have a great day.
> 
> Hope Paulos
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, those who had a big gripe about the channels not being spoken, you 
>> will now be happy to know that when scrolling down the list of channels, it 
>> now says the name of the channel, not just button.  The app is also a little 
>> faster.  So I guess all the requests must have been heard.  Didn’t bother 
>> me, but it does help.
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Re: color identifier app

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Sandy,

Sorry, I need to clarify.  I am talking about the colorino.  I don't know 
about the rainbow.


Thanks,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: color identifier app

Richard,
Will the colourino or the rainbow tell you the colour and/or the flashing 
status of LEDs?

Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 7 Feb 2017, at 14:07, Richard Turner  
wrote:


In the world of standalone color identifiers, yes the Colorino is very 
good.  Also the Rainbow 2 by Emerson Electronics is also very good for 
basic colors and costs about $50 less than the Colorino.


However, if you want to know if your shirt has a pattern, you will need 
either sighted assistance or use an app like iDentifi or TapTapSee.


They will usually also tell you that it is blue, white, red, green flowers 
or whatever.
Granted, the color accuracy with the iPhone camera is not as good as the 
stand alone devices, but it can get you roughly in the ball park.


If you truly want accurate color identification you will have to have a 
sighted person assist you in labelling the clothes in some form.
Digit-Eyes makes great labels that can be sown into a garment and you can 
record as detailed a description as you like, but that is fairly time 
intensive.


This is all up to each person's level of detail they wish to know.

I have to admit, while I test all these things for clients, I cheat and 
just have my sighted wife tell me what something is and whether they go 
together.  What can I say, I'm lazy, grin.


If I was on my own again, I would go the Digit-Eyes label route or cut my 
wardrobe back to what it was in my single days where everything matched so 
it didn't matter.  I figure since my wife wanted me to dress in more 
colors, it is her job to keep things straight, ha, ha.


Later,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: color identifier app

The best option is still a good old stand-alone colour identifier like the 
Colorino, it does I think 150 colours, but it speaks them as 
understandable colours and not like whatever weird names they come up with 
like the one you mentioned. The Colorino will say maybe "Intensive Red" or 
something like that, but pretty clear what it means and much more reliable 
than anything you can get for the iPhone. They do also seem to last since 
I had mine for probably 15 years and all I ever do is to replace the 
batteries maybe once a year.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Ulrich

Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: color identifier app

Which color identifying app will announce basic primary colors?
I've tried apps that announce colors like: Royal Canadian Mist".
So what color is that?
See what I'm saying?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: color identifier app


also iDentifi does a good job. but you need to know that none of them are 
going to be anywhere near what a sighted person sees, especially with 
patterns or different shades.
But either app, TapTapSee or iDentifi will be close, depending on lighting 
of course.

Richard



"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett


On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:13 PM, "dollar...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


Yes, it is Tap Tap See.  It is free with unlimited for now.  Hope this 
help you.  Scott Dollar


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:04 PM, Wayne Scott  
wrote:


Is there a free and very accessible color identifier app out there?

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Re: color identifier app

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Sandy,

Yes, it will.  I use it on my washer dial to tell me which light is lit.  I 
just wish it came to more of a point.  The end of it is about an inch and a 
half by a half inch, and the lens is in the middle, indented.


I absolutely love it for identifying colors and have had it for years.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: color identifier app

Richard,
Will the colourino or the rainbow tell you the colour and/or the flashing 
status of LEDs?

Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 7 Feb 2017, at 14:07, Richard Turner  
wrote:


In the world of standalone color identifiers, yes the Colorino is very 
good.  Also the Rainbow 2 by Emerson Electronics is also very good for 
basic colors and costs about $50 less than the Colorino.


However, if you want to know if your shirt has a pattern, you will need 
either sighted assistance or use an app like iDentifi or TapTapSee.


They will usually also tell you that it is blue, white, red, green flowers 
or whatever.
Granted, the color accuracy with the iPhone camera is not as good as the 
stand alone devices, but it can get you roughly in the ball park.


If you truly want accurate color identification you will have to have a 
sighted person assist you in labelling the clothes in some form.
Digit-Eyes makes great labels that can be sown into a garment and you can 
record as detailed a description as you like, but that is fairly time 
intensive.


This is all up to each person's level of detail they wish to know.

I have to admit, while I test all these things for clients, I cheat and 
just have my sighted wife tell me what something is and whether they go 
together.  What can I say, I'm lazy, grin.


If I was on my own again, I would go the Digit-Eyes label route or cut my 
wardrobe back to what it was in my single days where everything matched so 
it didn't matter.  I figure since my wife wanted me to dress in more 
colors, it is her job to keep things straight, ha, ha.


Later,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: color identifier app

The best option is still a good old stand-alone colour identifier like the 
Colorino, it does I think 150 colours, but it speaks them as 
understandable colours and not like whatever weird names they come up with 
like the one you mentioned. The Colorino will say maybe "Intensive Red" or 
something like that, but pretty clear what it means and much more reliable 
than anything you can get for the iPhone. They do also seem to last since 
I had mine for probably 15 years and all I ever do is to replace the 
batteries maybe once a year.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Ulrich

Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: color identifier app

Which color identifying app will announce basic primary colors?
I've tried apps that announce colors like: Royal Canadian Mist".
So what color is that?
See what I'm saying?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: color identifier app


also iDentifi does a good job. but you need to know that none of them are 
going to be anywhere near what a sighted person sees, especially with 
patterns or different shades.
But either app, TapTapSee or iDentifi will be close, depending on lighting 
of course.

Richard



"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett


On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:13 PM, "dollar...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


Yes, it is Tap Tap See.  It is free with unlimited for now.  Hope this 
help you.  Scott Dollar


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:04 PM, Wayne Scott  
wrote:


Is there a free and very accessible color identifier app out there?

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Re: color identifier app

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Richard,
Will the colourino or the rainbow tell you the colour and/or the flashing 
status of LEDs?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 7 Feb 2017, at 14:07, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> In the world of standalone color identifiers, yes the Colorino is very good.  
> Also the Rainbow 2 by Emerson Electronics is also very good for basic colors 
> and costs about $50 less than the Colorino.
> 
> However, if you want to know if your shirt has a pattern, you will need 
> either sighted assistance or use an app like iDentifi or TapTapSee.
> 
> They will usually also tell you that it is blue, white, red, green flowers or 
> whatever.
> Granted, the color accuracy with the iPhone camera is not as good as the 
> stand alone devices, but it can get you roughly in the ball park.
> 
> If you truly want accurate color identification you will have to have a 
> sighted person assist you in labelling the clothes in some form.
> Digit-Eyes makes great labels that can be sown into a garment and you can 
> record as detailed a description as you like, but that is fairly time 
> intensive.
> 
> This is all up to each person's level of detail they wish to know.
> 
> I have to admit, while I test all these things for clients, I cheat and just 
> have my sighted wife tell me what something is and whether they go together.  
> What can I say, I'm lazy, grin.
> 
> If I was on my own again, I would go the Digit-Eyes label route or cut my 
> wardrobe back to what it was in my single days where everything matched so it 
> didn't matter.  I figure since my wife wanted me to dress in more colors, it 
> is her job to keep things straight, ha, ha.
> 
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: color identifier app
> 
> The best option is still a good old stand-alone colour identifier like the 
> Colorino, it does I think 150 colours, but it speaks them as understandable 
> colours and not like whatever weird names they come up with like the one you 
> mentioned. The Colorino will say maybe "Intensive Red" or something like 
> that, but pretty clear what it means and much more reliable than anything you 
> can get for the iPhone. They do also seem to last since I had mine for 
> probably 15 years and all I ever do is to replace the batteries maybe once a 
> year.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Ulrich
> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: color identifier app
> 
> Which color identifying app will announce basic primary colors?
> I've tried apps that announce colors like: Royal Canadian Mist".
> So what color is that?
> See what I'm saying?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: color identifier app
> 
> 
> also iDentifi does a good job. but you need to know that none of them are 
> going to be anywhere near what a sighted person sees, especially with 
> patterns or different shades.
> But either app, TapTapSee or iDentifi will be close, depending on lighting of 
> course.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:13 PM, "dollar...@gmail.com"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it is Tap Tap See.  It is free with unlimited for now.  Hope this help 
>> you.  Scott Dollar 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:04 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a free and very accessible color identifier app out there?
>>> 
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Re: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an iPad Mini to a Windows PC"]

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Argument aside, I find I can navigate and type on a desktop keyboard much 
quicker and efficiently than on any kind of handheld 
without physical keys. It's just what we got used to.
I finally bought a full-size bluetooth to try on an iPad Mini, still trying, 
iOs navigation just isn't as simple as using the arrow 
keys like it used to be.
So I can never understand the developer claims it is all in the interest of 
efficiency. Sure, you can do more when not at a desk; 
that, I admit,  is progress.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 12:31 AM
Subject: PC's versus smart phones [WAS was Re: Getting Pictures Off of an iPad 
Mini to a Windows PC"]


First of all, no where did I say that you said we can't handle emails on
our smart phones. You don't want to be taken out of context, so please
extend that courtesy to others on the list as well.

In fact, what you did say, and I quote, is "... with a computer you will
be doing the same thing in seconds, instead hours." All I said in my
email, which you can read below, is that this is an exaggeration and is
only your experience and your opinion.

If you can read, reply to, file and delete a hundred message on your PC
in a few seconds then that's great, and you are infinitely more
proficient with email on your PC than I am. On the other hand if it
takes you hours to read, reply to, move and delete a hundred emails on
your smart phone then you're either doing some complicated email
formatting like Seeghard describes, or I'm a lot more proficient when it
comes to handling email on a smart phone then you are.

In fact, there are some tasks I prefer to do on my iPhone. For example,
if I'm going to read, delete and move a bunch of emails at work, I'll do
that on my iPhone before I'll do that in Outlook on my PC. I just find
that Outlook with JAWS or NVDA just doesn't handle threading as eel as
the Mail app does on the iPhone. If I were also talking about replying
to and writing emails then yes, I'm going to go to my PC first. Also, if
I were comparing the Mail app on my iPhone to Thunderbird with Orca on
Linux, then I'd take that combination on my PC over the iPhone, but
that's not an option for me at the job.

I agree that doing some things, such as content generation, is generally
more efficient on a PC than on a smart phone, but a lot of things
related to content consumption is just as easy if not easier on a tablet
or smart phone. My problem with your statement is that you're making
wild exaggerations, you're stating your opinion as fact and you're not
providing any use cases or details about what you're doing that's so
much more efficient on your PC.

I also don't agree that your smart phone or tablet is a supplementary
device. It may be in your case, and that's fine. I know plenty of people
though who use a tablet now as their primary device, and yes that is in
an office setting. I'm not there yet, but it isn't because mobile
devices don't have the necessary computing power. It has to do more with
the state of the apps, their accessibility, and keyboard support.
Convertible devices are also blurring the distinction between mobile
devices and laptops, and there's no reason to think this trend won't
continue. Look at the specs of your high end smart phones and the specs
you need on your PC to accomplish the same tasks. The deltas have shrunk
incredibly over the last few years, if they even exist at all any more.

You can relegate your smart phone and tablet to a supplementary device
if you want, but I'm glad their are innovators at Canonical, Microsoft
and elsewhere that realize there's no reason why one device can't bridge
the gap between the mobile and desktop spaces.



On 07/02/17 10:21, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
> Just research, just ask on blogs, just see it by yourself. Christopher, I 
> understand that what I am saying is a little bit painful 
> for smart phone users, but we need to be realistic. Smart phones are 
> supplementary tools, they are not work tools with enough 
> power to replace a computer. No, no yet.
> Of course that when you are traveling you use your phone, supplementary tool. 
> I am not saying that you cannot use your phone to 
> read or reply an email, did I say so?
> No right?
> Ok, don't take my emails out of the point. I am saying that people using 
> smart phones are not that efficient managing emails as 
> they are using a computer. Just take that statement, not add or remove 
> anything from there.
> The fact that you take 15 more minutes using your phone to handle emails is 
> proving what I am saying.
> If you believe that you working as a professional in your office will not 
> need a computer because you have an iPhone, you are 
> wrong, and you will not get any job thinking like that. It is already proved, 
> we are not efficient working on smart phones as we 
> are on a computer.
> People works a lot faster using a computer than using their smart phones. It