Re: Copy and paste from an e-mail?

[kg7fa2]

Hi Richard.  I enabled text selection in the roter, and it is indeed
their, but I must not be selecting text correctly, because even if I
choose select all, when I go back to edit, there is still no options, as
in copy and paste!  HELP!

Thanks in advance:
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Re: Copy and paste from an e-mail?

[kg7fa2]

Thanks Richard, I don't recall seeing that option, so I will check the
roter settings and try to add it!

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Re: Copy and paste from an e-mail?

[Richard Turner]

You should have an option called text selection on the rotor. If you do not, 
then go into the rotor settings and select it so it shows up.
Then, you can more easily select text, then you will find the copy option under 
edit.
HTH,
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> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:35 PM, "kg7...@juno.com"  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, could someone refresh my memory on how to copy text from an
> e-mail message, and paste it somewhare else?  I was in the message I
> wanted to copy, but I can't remember how to select the portion of the
> text I want, so when I went to edit with the roter, there were no options
> such as copy and paste when I swipe down with one finger.  I'm sure I'm
> missing something simple, but I haven't done this much on the I-phone, so
> it slipped out of my aging brain!  GRIN!
> 
> Thanks in advance:
> John
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RE: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I purchased FileBrowser and when I open it it does see my Windows 10 laptop and 
my external Dlink network attached drive. It says touch to connect and when I 
tap on either one it asks me for a user name and password. I tried putting in 
my Windows Id which I use to login to my Windows 10 laptop, I have it set to 
use a PIN rather than the password, but this does not work. As for my network 
attached drive I don't even know what the user name and password would be, it 
does not ask for one if I access it via Windows Explorer, it just shows up as a 
drive and opens up as any other local hard drive.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

Hi all, I would like to thank the person who put up the heads up about File 
Browser, it works fantastically.  I can not only access my dropbox files and 
open them in other apps, but I can see all of the external hard drives on my 
network, and play those files as well.  I suspect I could even import them in 
to other apps, though I haven't tried that yet!  This is going to be extremely 
useful for me as I have a group on whatsapp, called Beatle Talk.  Many of the 
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like this app.  I am able to upload
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If anyone is interested in joining my Beatle Talk group, let me know and I will 
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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
requirements. 

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
> any other OCR solution on Windows!
> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have 
> an extremely long way to go.
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
> and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
> 
> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
> files, the older MS-Word format.
> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
> being able to make the document editable.
> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
> Now, for my pet Peeve.
> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
> page has just over half a page of text. 
> 
> 
> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
> 
> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
> seems to be much improved.
> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
> Richard
> 
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Re: In Safari, what's the difference between Add to Favorites and Add Bookmark?

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

I think simply favorets are bookmarks that show up on your blank sefary address 
bar.. bookmarks can be in your bookmarks folderstructure.  favorets is in there 
too so you could add bookmark and put it in favorets but, I guess it's a quick 
add to your favorets screen.  

I hope this helpes,
Billy Maynard
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 7:15 PM
  Subject: In Safari, what's the difference between Add to Favorites and Add 
Bookmark?


  Hi,

   

  I’m curious about what the difference is within Safari when given the choice 
under the Share tab of either Add to Favorites or Add Bookmark?

   

  Is there a reason to choose one over the other?

   

  Thanks in advance, Keith.

   

   


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Re: Trouble in forwarding messages in whatsapp groups

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

There is no definite other way of doing this, and this problem comes from 
prior versions of the app.  Some messages will copy easier than others, 
especially within a chat.  I sometimes have to doubletap and hold for a few 
seconds, holding your finger on the screen longer, then also wait a few 
seconds before actually trying to find the menu that is suppose to pop up. 
Another thing I also do is to doubletap and hold, and then tap once or twice 
with another finger on the screen, which sometimes also brings up the menu. 
This is indeed an inconsistent problem with whatsapp and I have reported 
this many a time.  Good luck.


Jan Kleinhans

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To: "viphone" 
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:30 PM
Subject: Trouble in forwarding messages in whatsapp groups



Hi all
Hope this mail finds you well.
I struggle to forward messages from whatsapp groups. I use the double
tap and hold gesture but many a  times the box  containing Forward,
Reply etc. options does not appear and voice over keeps reading the
message repeatedly. Am aware of triple tap gesture but have been
unable to successfully perform it.
Looking forward for suggestions in this end.
Best
Turab

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Copy and paste from an e-mail?

[kg7fa2]

Hi all, could someone refresh my memory on how to copy text from an
e-mail message, and paste it somewhare else?  I was in the message I
wanted to copy, but I can't remember how to select the portion of the
text I want, so when I went to edit with the roter, there were no options
such as copy and paste when I swipe down with one finger.  I'm sure I'm
missing something simple, but I haven't done this much on the I-phone, so
it slipped out of my aging brain!  GRIN!

Thanks in advance:
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Re: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[kg7fa2]

You don't need anything for your PC, just the app on the i-phone.

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Re: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Casey]

Hi how do you get this for windows seven and what do you all need to get 
it installed and up and running smoothly?





On 3/4/2017 7:56 PM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:

Hi all, I would like to thank the person who put up the heads up about
File Browser, it works fantastically.  I can not only access my dropbox
files and open them in other apps, but I can see all of the external hard
drives on my network, and play those files as well.  I suspect I could
even import them in to other apps, though I haven't tried that yet!  This
is going to be extremely useful for me as I have a group on whatsapp,
called Beatle Talk.  Many of the groups that were on Roger are moving to
whatsapp, and I am really starting to like this app.  I am able to upload
MP3 files to my group, and the members can hear good high quality sound.
If anyone is interested in joining my Beatle Talk group, let me know and
I will add you.

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Re: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[kg7fa2]

Hi all, I would like to thank the person who put up the heads up about
File Browser, it works fantastically.  I can not only access my dropbox
files and open them in other apps, but I can see all of the external hard
drives on my network, and play those files as well.  I suspect I could
even import them in to other apps, though I haven't tried that yet!  This
is going to be extremely useful for me as I have a group on whatsapp,
called Beatle Talk.  Many of the groups that were on Roger are moving to
whatsapp, and I am really starting to like this app.  I am able to upload
MP3 files to my group, and the members can hear good high quality sound. 
If anyone is interested in joining my Beatle Talk group, let me know and
I will add you.

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In Safari, what's the difference between Add to Favorites and Add Bookmark?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I'm curious about what the difference is within Safari when given the choice 
under the Share tab of either Add to Favorites or Add Bookmark?

Is there a reason to choose one over the other?

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Another Dropbox Problem

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I think we've covered the problem with Dropbox version 36.2 and its
Voiceover bug but I wanted to update you on what I'm now experiencing. I
deleted Dropbox 36.2 and reinstalled version 34.2 after the bug. Version
34.2 had been working fine for me but now when I place focus on the Dropbox
app icon, I get a "Waiting" response from Voiceover and double tapping the
app does nothing. I guess the problem that others have reported about being
unable to open the app have now reached me.

 

I'm curious whether others are getting this waiting response and just what
others are experiencing with the app. I can't even get Dropbox to uninstall
because when I go through the steps to uninstall it, the app is still there
after I confirm deletion.

 

I hope the fix comes out soon as reported because they've made a pig's
breakfast of this last upgrade.

 

Alan

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RE: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Alan Lemly]

Anouk,

Thanks for the reminder tip about the FileBrowser app. I second Anouk's 
recommendation. Not only will FileBrowser let you link to your Dropbox account 
and have access to those files but it also lets you access the files on your 
local computer. With its built-in media player, you can access all the music 
stored in your iTunes library on your computer and not have to worry about 
filling up your device with that music. If you decide to use FileBrowser to 
attach your local computer file system, I'd caution you to put a password on 
the app in order to protect your data from obtrusive access. As Anouk stated, 
FileBrowser is exceedingly accessible with Voiceover.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

Hi everyone, A friend tipped me about the app filebrowser (not free but easy to 
use and fully vo compatible). IU use that now to get access to my dropbox files 
and for me it fixes the problem and is a nice alternative so i though I would 
share it because it might help some other people out as well.
Have a nice weekend,
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 4 Mar 2017, at 16:05, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Carla. I appreciate this update. 
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Carla Savage  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I have been in regular contact with Dropbox support throughout this week. 
>> They thought they had fixed it but after further testing, I informed them 
>> that the so called fix hadn't worked. The support guy emailed me yesterday 
>> to say that there is a fix on the way early next week.
>> So, watch this space!
>> Take care,
>> Carla.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 4 Mar 2017, at 2:43 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1my bad. Sorry. I thought Anna had said she tried it and it worked. Sorry 
>>> Anna. I didn't mean to imply anything was your fault. (smile) 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
 
 They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, 
 dropbox has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed
 
 Hi Anna.
 Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really 
 sux! lol.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out 
> a fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can 
> access the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files 
> and folders or opening a file. Hooray!
> 
> Anna
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KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

[Richard Turner]

KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to any 
other OCR solution on Windows!
Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but if 
KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have an 
extremely long way to go.
I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.

I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
before the scanner is ready for the next page.
KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
files, the older MS-Word format.
When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
being able to make the document editable.
With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
Now, for my pet Peeve.
The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
page has just over half a page of text. 


OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.

For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber and 
Prizmo on the iPhone.
"" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
seems to be much improved.
I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., but 
I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
Richard


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Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Dave Mitchel]

got it...thanks 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

All you have to do is Google KNFB Reader and the website is search result 1. 
Sorry I can’t send the link, but I have to leave for work now and it’s super 
easy to find, actually, I think it’s just www.knfbreader.com, if I remember 
correctly

.

 

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Dave Mitchel 
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

you got a link for the knfb website? 

thanks in advance 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:08 PM

To: m...@jfw.groups.io 

Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.

The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.

I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.

I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: m...@jfw.groups.io [mailto:m...@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

And does it work with the Pearl camera?

Matthew

 


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia  wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia

 

 

On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

  Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.

  Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last 
month. 

  Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000? 

  Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands? 

  If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard 
commands, I may still be interested. 

  It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular 
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

   

 

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RE: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

All you have to do is Google KNFB Reader and the website is search result 1. 
Sorry I can’t send the link, but I have to leave for work now and it’s super 
easy to find, actually, I think it’s just 
www.knfbreader.com, if I remember correctly
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

you got a link for the knfb website?
thanks in advance

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:08 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

Hi,

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.
The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.
I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.
I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

And does it work with the Pearl camera?
Matthew


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia 
mailto:claudiadr2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia



On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.
Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last month.
Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000?
Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands?
If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard commands, 
I may still be interested.
It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular price 
seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app


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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Ed Worrell]

That may be. You can change the source of the POI’s in the Seeing Eye GPS 
application. You don’t have to use the 4 square POIs as your source… If you use 
Google your POI’s are limited to what Google has in the data base.
HTH,


Ed
> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:16 AM, michaelmasl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017 at 20:53, mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you think junk poi's are meaningless, take a visit to big city
>> 
>> Chicago and get ready to be overwhelmed.  people geo tag regular
>> 
>> stopping locations for their favorite food trucks, their friend's
>> 
>> bachelor pad, bike share stations, bus stops that have been since
>> 
>> relocated, and restaurants that no longer exist.  As urban life
>> 
>> churns, the geo tags live on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/3/17, michaelmasl...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > While in a car, I turn that information off because it is too much spam.
>> 
>> > Walking I agree it will help a lot
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> On Mar 3, 2017 at 16:03,  mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com)>
>> 
>> >> wrote:
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>   POI’s aren’t a bad thing… It will allow you to learn the environment and
>> 
>> >> your surroundings and help you become more confident in your surroundings.
>> 
>> >> I find POI’s to be very helpful in travel. I always remember though that
>> 
>> >> POI’s can change, and aren’t always correct. POI’s to me are a very
>> 
>> >> helpful feature.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> IMO
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> 
>> >> > mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu)>  wrote:
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > Isn’t POI’s being more spam a bad thing? Curious. Thanks, Keith
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > From:   viphone@googlegroups.com (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)
>> 
>> >> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]   On Behalf Of
>> 
>> >> > michaelmasl...@gmail.com (mailto:michaelmasl...@gmail.com)
>> 
>> >> >   Sent:   Friday, March 03, 2017 2:10 PM
>> 
>> >> >   To:   Viphone
>> 
>> >> >   Subject:   Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > Hi, for me personally, nearby explorer works much better than seeing
>> 
>> >> > eye. More accurate better instructions and points of interest are more
>> 
>> >> > spam. Again that's only my opinion
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >  On Mar 3, 2017 at 11:01,  mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com)>
>> 
>> >> > wrote:
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >  Hello all,
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > I find that the Seeing Eye GPS works much better than the NearBy
>> 
>> >> > Explorer app. I also find that the interface is much cleaner on the
>> 
>> >> > Seeing Eye GPS application. The way that you have to add/search for
>> 
>> >> > addresses in the NearBy app is not that intuitive. I also find that the
>> 
>> >> > NearBy Explorer app doesn’t work well whilst in a car. The Seeing Eye
>> 
>> >> > GPS app blows it out of the water with it’s accuracy all around. I also
>> 
>> >> > have used both apps at the same time and The Seeing Eyes POI’s are far
>> 
>> >> > better than NearBy Explorer. Much more accurate. and I understand that
>> 
>> >> > everyone has a difference of what they like for interfaces, and what
>> 
>> >> > they see as being more accurate. This is just what I have experienced
>> 
>> >> > with the two apps.
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > I hop this helps, and remember it’s just what I prefer.
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > Ed
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >  On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Harry Bell  > 
>> >> > > (mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com)>  wrote:
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >  In my limited experience as a beta tester of Nesrby Explorer in the
>> 
>> >> > > U.K., I find that the app never tells me whether the Favourite I am
>> 
>> >> > > watching is on right or left
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>  On 1 Mar 2017, at 21:08, Mike Arrigo  > 
>> >> > >> (mailto:n0...@charter.net)>  wrote:
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>  It usually does unless the destination is right on a corner, in that
>> 
>> >> > >> case, it may not announce it since it may not be able to determine
>> 
>> >> > >> the correct side.
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>  Original message:
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>>  Mike… Does nearby explorer announce what side the street the
>> 
>> >> > >>> destination is on? I know there were some issues with this in the
>> 
>> >> > >>> past, have updates improve things?
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>>  Thanks!
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >> > >>
>> 
>> >> >
>> 
>> >>

Re: thermos stat

[Les Kriegler]

That is one that does work. I believe there are others. I think I've heard 
discussion of thermostats from radio thermostat.com.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to bring this up again.  Is it the Nest thermostat that works with WIFI 
> and iPhone?  Thanks.
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Re: filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for sharing this Karla.
I've been in correspondence with them as well, but never got that explanation. 
I've heard from at least three different people at DropBox; it is too bad they 
do not talk to each other, or read the prior posts before responding.
But, if they finally have a fix for real, I'll be the first to thank them, 
while still holding them accountable for the major screw up. 
Not unlike the accountants at the Oscars, grin.
Richard



"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, A friend tipped me about the app filebrowser (not free but easy 
> to use and fully vo compatible). IU use that now to get access to my dropbox 
> files and for me it fixes the problem and is a nice alternative so i though I 
> would share it because it might help some other people out as well.
> Have a nice weekend,
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 4 Mar 2017, at 16:05, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Carla. I appreciate this update. 
>> Jen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Carla Savage  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have been in regular contact with Dropbox support throughout this week. 
>>> They thought they had fixed it but after further testing, I informed them 
>>> that the so called fix hadn't worked. The support guy emailed me yesterday 
>>> to say that there is a fix on the way early next week.
>>> So, watch this space!
>>> Take care,
>>> Carla.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 4 Mar 2017, at 2:43 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 
 1my bad. Sorry. I thought Anna had said she tried it and it worked. Sorry 
 Anna. I didn't mean to imply anything was your fault. (smile) 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 4, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, 
> dropbox has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed
> 
> Hi Anna.
> Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really 
> sux! lol.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed 
>> out a fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and 
>> can access the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of 
>> files and folders or opening a file. Hooray!
>> 
>> Anna
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[Tom Rash]

Sorry to bring this up again.  Is it the Nest thermostat that works with
WIFI and iPhone?  Thanks.

 

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filebrowser was: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone, A friend tipped me about the app filebrowser (not free but easy to 
use and fully vo compatible). IU use that now to get access to my dropbox files 
and for me it fixes the problem and is a nice alternative so i though I would 
share it because it might help some other people out as well.
Have a nice weekend,
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 4 Mar 2017, at 16:05, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Carla. I appreciate this update. 
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Carla Savage  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I have been in regular contact with Dropbox support throughout this week. 
>> They thought they had fixed it but after further testing, I informed them 
>> that the so called fix hadn't worked. The support guy emailed me yesterday 
>> to say that there is a fix on the way early next week.
>> So, watch this space!
>> Take care,
>> Carla.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 4 Mar 2017, at 2:43 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1my bad. Sorry. I thought Anna had said she tried it and it worked. Sorry 
>>> Anna. I didn't mean to imply anything was your fault. (smile) 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
 
 They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, 
 dropbox has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed
 
 Hi Anna.
 Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really 
 sux! lol.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out 
> a fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can 
> access the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files 
> and folders or opening a file. Hooray!
> 
> Anna
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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[michaelmaslo04]

  
  


  
  
  
  
  

  
  
>   
> On Mar 3, 2017 at 20:53,  mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  If you think junk poi's are meaningless, take a visit to big city  
> Chicago and get ready to be overwhelmed. people geo tag regular  
> stopping locations for their favorite food trucks, their friend's  
> bachelor pad, bike share stations, bus stops that have been since  
> relocated, and restaurants that no longer exist. As urban life  
> churns, the geo tags live on.  
>
> Kelly  
>
> On 3/3/17, michaelmasl...@gmail.comwrote:  
> >   
> >  While in a car, I turn that information off because it is too much spam.  
> >  Walking I agree it will help a lot  
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >>   
> >>  On Mar 3, 2017 at 16:03,  mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com)>   
> >>  wrote:  
> >>   
> >>   
> >>  POI’s aren’t a bad thing… It will allow you to learn the environment and  
> >>  your surroundings and help you become more confident in your 
> >> surroundings.  
> >>  I find POI’s to be very helpful in travel. I always remember though that  
> >>  POI’s can change, and aren’t always correct. POI’s to me are a very  
> >>  helpful feature.  
> >>   
> >>   
> >>  IMO  
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  On Mar 3, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  
> >>   >   mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu)>  
> >> wrote:  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  Isn’t POI’s being more spam a bad thing? Curious. Thanks, Keith  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  From: viphone@googlegroups.com (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)  
> >>   >  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of  
> >>   >  michaelmasl...@gmail.com (mailto:michaelmasl...@gmail.com)  
> >>   >  Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 2:10 PM  
> >>   >  To: Viphone  
> >>   >  Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  Hi, for me personally, nearby explorer works much better than seeing  
> >>   >  eye. More accurate better instructions and points of interest are 
> >> more  
> >>   >  spam. Again that's only my opinion  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  On Mar 3, 2017 at 11:01,   >> (mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com)>   
> >>   >  wrote:  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  Hello all,  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  I find that the Seeing Eye GPS works much better than the NearBy  
> >>   >  Explorer app. I also find that the interface is much cleaner on the  
> >>   >  Seeing Eye GPS application. The way that you have to add/search for  
> >>   >  addresses in the NearBy app is not that intuitive. I also find that 
> >> the  
> >>   >  NearBy Explorer app doesn’t work well whilst in a car. The Seeing Eye 
> >>  
> >>   >  GPS app blows it out of the water with it’s accuracy all around. I 
> >> also  
> >>   >  have used both apps at the same time and The Seeing Eyes POI’s are 
> >> far  
> >>   >  better than NearBy Explorer. Much more accurate. and I understand 
> >> that  
> >>   >  everyone has a difference of what they like for interfaces, and what  
> >>   >  they see as being more accurate. This is just what I have experienced 
> >>  
> >>   >  with the two apps.  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  I hop this helps, and remember it’s just what I prefer.  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >  Ed  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >  On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Harry Bell   >>   >   >  (mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com)>  wrote:  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >  In my limited experience as a beta tester of Nesrby Explorer in 
> >> the  
> >>   >   >  U.K., I find that the app never tells me whether the Favourite I 
> >> am  
> >>   >   >  watching is on right or left  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>  On 1 Mar 2017, at 21:08, Mike Arrigo   >>   >   >>  (mailto:n0...@charter.net)>  wrote:  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>  It usually does unless the destination is right on a corner, in 
> >> that  
> >>   >   >>  case, it may not announce it since it may not be able to 
> >> determine  
> >>   >   >>  the correct side.  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>  Original message:  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>>  Mike… Does nearby explorer announce what side the street the  
> >>   >   >>>  destination is on? I know there were some issues with this in 
> >> the  
> >>   >   >>>  past, have updates improve things?  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>>  Thanks!  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>   
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>>  Hope Paulos  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>   
> >>   >   
> >>   >     On Mar 1, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Mike Arrigo   >>   >     (mailto:n0...@charter.net)>  wrote:  
> >>   >   
> >>   >   >>   
> >>   >   
> >>   >     It may

Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Carla. I appreciate this update. 
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Carla Savage  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I have been in regular contact with Dropbox support throughout this week. 
> They thought they had fixed it but after further testing, I informed them 
> that the so called fix hadn't worked. The support guy emailed me yesterday to 
> say that there is a fix on the way early next week.
> So, watch this space!
> Take care,
> Carla.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Mar 2017, at 2:43 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> 1my bad. Sorry. I thought Anna had said she tried it and it worked. Sorry 
>> Anna. I didn't mean to imply anything was your fault. (smile) 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, dropbox 
>>> has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.
>>> 
>>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed
>>> 
>>> Hi Anna.
>>> Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
>>> lol.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out 
 a fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can 
 access the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and 
 folders or opening a file. Hooray!
 
 Anna
 
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Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Carla Savage]

Hi All,
I have been in regular contact with Dropbox support throughout this week. They 
thought they had fixed it but after further testing, I informed them that the 
so called fix hadn't worked. The support guy emailed me yesterday to say that 
there is a fix on the way early next week.
So, watch this space!
Take care,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Mar 2017, at 2:43 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> 1my bad. Sorry. I thought Anna had said she tried it and it worked. Sorry 
> Anna. I didn't mean to imply anything was your fault. (smile) 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, dropbox 
>> has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed
>> 
>> Hi Anna.
>> Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
>> lol.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out a 
>>> fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can access 
>>> the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and folders 
>>> or opening a file. Hooray!
>>> 
>>> Anna
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Re: Keyboard feedback volume

[Harry Bell]

I have just discovered that the volume of the feedback on keyboard characters  
is actually controlled by settings--sounds--Ringer and Alerts volume level 
slider! Harry

> On 3 Mar 2017, at 17:38, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Harry,
> 
> Try adjusting the volume while the keyboard feedback is being spoken. That 
> should take care of it.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
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>> I have my phone set to give keyboard feedback (characters and words) as I 
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>> notice that the volume of the voice giving keyboard feedback is painfully 
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Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Jenifer Barr]

1my bad. Sorry. I thought Anna had said she tried it and it worked. Sorry Anna. 
I didn't mean to imply anything was your fault. (smile) 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, dropbox 
> has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jenifer Barr
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> 
> Hi Anna.
> Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
> lol.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out a 
>> fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can access 
>> the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and folders 
>> or opening a file. Hooray!
>> 
>> Anna
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Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Dave Mitchel]

you got a link for the knfb website? 
thanks in advance 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

Hi,

 

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.

The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.

I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.

I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
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And does it work with the Pearl camera?

Matthew

 


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia  wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia

 

 

On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

  Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.

  Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last 
month. 

  Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000? 

  Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands? 

  If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard 
commands, I may still be interested. 

  It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular 
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

   

 

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RE: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Mike Ulrich]

It is indeed the updated version of the app. It ain't your IPhone.

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Anouk Radix
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:56 AM
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Hi, I just caught the tail of this thread and I am having the seem problem. I 
reinstalled it use the newest version of ios on my iphone 6 but it keeps 
crashing when i select the files tab. I cant select it without vo turned on so 
not sure if the problem is vospecefic.
Greetings,Anouk,
> On 4 Mar 2017, at 14:46, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi Anna. 
> Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
> lol. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
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>> 
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>> Anna
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Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Davy Cuppens]

Please do not be grumpy here, grump on dropbox, throw bombs and bombs and 
mail bombs, dozens a day!!!


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

What happened to Drop Box's tech guys? I'd of thought that developing 
updates while making sure they're is accessible would have been a piece of 
cake for them?
Maybe they've got new people in there that have no clue on accessibility? Or 
they're just so concerned on how the app looks?


I too, use Drop Box a lot and am completely frustrated big time!
It's a race between the blinks and the sightlings; as to the advances in 
technology and keeping up with compatibility. The developers make updates 
for better visuals, and the blind are left far behind. We catch up, only to 
have the carrot move further ahead.


This is only the opinion of an ordinary average blind guy, but do you all 
see what I'm saying?


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Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

Hi Anna.
Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
lol.


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out 
a fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can 
access the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and 
folders or opening a file. Hooray!


Anna

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Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Davy Cuppens]

They gave bad information to Anna, she cannot do anything about it, dropbox 
has never made meantime updates, they are lieing.


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Hi Anna.
Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
lol.


Sent from my iPhone


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Hi,

I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out 
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RE: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Mike Ulrich]

What happened to Drop Box's tech guys? I'd of thought that developing updates 
while making sure they're is accessible would have been a piece of cake for 
them?
Maybe they've got new people in there that have no clue on accessibility? Or 
they're just so concerned on how the app looks?

I too, use Drop Box a lot and am completely frustrated big time!
It's a race between the blinks and the sightlings; as to the advances in 
technology and keeping up with compatibility. The developers make updates for 
better visuals, and the blind are left far behind. We catch up, only to have 
the carrot move further ahead.

This is only the opinion of an ordinary average blind guy, but do you all see 
what I'm saying?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

Hi Anna. 
Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
lol. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> 
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> fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can access 
> the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and folders 
> or opening a file. Hooray!
> 
> Anna
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Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, I just caught the tail of this thread and I am having the seem problem. I 
reinstalled it use the newest version of ios on my iphone 6 but it keeps 
crashing when i select the files tab. I cant select it without vo turned on so 
not sure if the problem is vospecefic.
Greetings,Anouk,
> On 4 Mar 2017, at 14:46, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna. 
> Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
> lol. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just got a message from Dropbox tech support saying they had pushed out a 
>> fix, and to uninstall Dropbox and redownload it. I did this and can access 
>> the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and folders 
>> or opening a file. Hooray!
>> 
>> Anna
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Re: Dropbox issue seems to be fixed

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Anna. 
Still crashes here. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. This really sux! 
lol. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> 
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> the Files tab again. I had no trouble reading the list of files and folders 
> or opening a file. Hooray!
> 
> Anna
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Trouble in forwarding messages in whatsapp groups

[turab chimthanawala]

Hi all
Hope this mail finds you well.
I struggle to forward messages from whatsapp groups. I use the double
tap and hold gesture but many a  times the box  containing Forward,
Reply etc. options does not appear and voice over keeps reading the
message repeatedly. Am aware of triple tap gesture but have been
unable to successfully perform it.
Looking forward for suggestions in this end.
Best
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is any one else having trouble uploading larger recordings from ultimate VR?

[goshawk on horseback]

hello all, 
is anyone else having trouble uploading larger recordings from ultimate voice 
recorder? 
what ever I try, dropbox, google drive, or one drive, larger recording files 
just will not upload to them for some strange reason. this is extremely 
annoying, as this was one of the main features that made this recording app so 
appealing to me, the fact that it had another way to get the recordings it made 
from the iphone to a platform that I could use to get them on to my PC, for 
editing, and/or passing on, which I can never figure out how to do with poxy 
iTunes. 
all of the accounts have more than enough space for the files, so it definitely 
seems to be an issue with the actual app, which I could really do with getting 
fixed if possible. 

Simon 

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Re: don't install Dropbox yet

[Davy Cuppens]

I am very sad rumors had been spreading over the list that dropbox has made 
a fixing update! This was gossip and not true.

I know that this is totally not Anna's fault, it's Dropbox' mistake.

Regards
Davy

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From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: don't install Dropbox yet

I had taken DropBox off my iPhone. So, I just went to the app store and 
installed the DropBox that was there. This was at about 4:45 PM Pacific 
Time.

It still said it was version 36.2.
And, true to that version number, when you select files, it crashes and you 
are back on the home screen.
I think DropBox support must be ingesting things they should not while at 
work.

Richard




On Mar 3, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Anna,

I have to admit that I'm a bit confused. Your previous message said you 
uninstalled the problem Dropbox version and installed a corrected update 
which corrected the problem. Now this post is saying that you installed 
another Dropbox update and the problem is back. So, did dropbox release 
two separate updates in a short period of time? Can you quote version 
numbers so we can keep the problem updates separate from the working ones?


Thanks.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


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Hello,

Right after I sent my previous message, I checked the app store, and 
there was a Dropbox update. I installed it, and the problem is back. I 
have notified Dropbox. Can't imagine what's going on here.


Best,
Anna

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Re: don't install Dropbox yet

[Davy Cuppens]

there has been no update at all! Dropbox is lieing on this subject.

Let's all drop bombs on dropbox by sending multiple complaints a day about
the bug.
Send tweets to dropbox about the fact they are no longer accessible for
voiceover users, tag newspapers in your tweets too!
Bomb, bomb,bomb!!!
Regards
Davy

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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 10:28 PM
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Subject: don't install Dropbox yet

Hello,

Right after I sent my previous message, I checked the app store, and there
was a Dropbox update. I installed it, and the problem is back. I have
notified Dropbox. Can't imagine what's going on here.

Best,
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Re: Unsure about Apple Music, iTunes Match, and DRM

[Harry Bell]

I second what Chris suggests about ringing Apple. I originally subscribe to 
Apple Music but had very similar problems to you and it totally mangled my 
iTunes library. I now only subscribe to iTunes match and keep a separate copy 
of all my iTunes library on my external hard drive or two!

> On 4 Mar 2017, at 08:29, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
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> 
> I do not have any experience with this, but have you considered calling 
> Apple, and after explaining what is happening, get their opinion on what is 
> going on and why.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:09 AM, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> At the moment, I have an Apple Music subscription, but not an iTunes Match 
>> subscription. I used to be subscribed to iTunes Match, but canceled the 
>> subscription some time ago.
>> 
>> Anyway, I have a MacBook Air with an empty iTunes library (no tracks 
>> downloaded to the machine). I’ve signed into my iCloud music library on the 
>> machine, and I see that the iCloud status for the majority of tracks is 
>> “Apple Music”, meaning those songs have DRM. Sure enough, when I download 
>> most of the tracks (even songs I extracted from my own CDs prior to the 
>> introduction of Apple Music) they are protected tracks and can’t be played 
>> in any other app. Weirdly, though, about one in every ten tracks shows as 
>> “matched”, meaning I can download a version from Apple without DRM, or 
>> “uploaded”, meaning I can download the original formats I added to iTunes 
>> over the years.
>> 
>> Most confusingly, some tracks won’t play on either iOS or MacOS, and their 
>> iCloud status is “no longer available” which means that they’re no longer 
>> available for streaming or downloading by Apple Music subscribers. But 
>> again, these are songs I added to my library before I ever subscribed to 
>> Apple Music.
>> 
>> It’s been difficult to find any official info on the different behaviour of 
>> Apple Music versus iTunes Match for matched songs. This Apple support 
>> article just says "If you're an Apple Music member, you don't need to 
>> subscribe to iTunes Match unless you still need to access your music on an 
>> Apple TV (2nd or 3rd Generation).” This MacWorld article from July 2015 says 
>> that you do need to subscribe to iTunes Match, even if you have an Apple 
>> Music subscription, if you want to download tracks without DRM. But that 
>> wouldn’t explain why there are occasional “matched” tracks in my library.
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Grant
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Re: Unsure about Apple Music, iTunes Match, and DRM

[Chris Chaffin]

I do not have any experience with this, but have you considered calling Apple, 
and after explaining what is happening, get their opinion on what is going on 
and why.

HTH,

Chris


> On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:09 AM, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> At the moment, I have an Apple Music subscription, but not an iTunes Match 
> subscription. I used to be subscribed to iTunes Match, but canceled the 
> subscription some time ago.
> 
> Anyway, I have a MacBook Air with an empty iTunes library (no tracks 
> downloaded to the machine). I’ve signed into my iCloud music library on the 
> machine, and I see that the iCloud status for the majority of tracks is 
> “Apple Music”, meaning those songs have DRM. Sure enough, when I download 
> most of the tracks (even songs I extracted from my own CDs prior to the 
> introduction of Apple Music) they are protected tracks and can’t be played in 
> any other app. Weirdly, though, about one in every ten tracks shows as 
> “matched”, meaning I can download a version from Apple without DRM, or 
> “uploaded”, meaning I can download the original formats I added to iTunes 
> over the years.
> 
> Most confusingly, some tracks won’t play on either iOS or MacOS, and their 
> iCloud status is “no longer available” which means that they’re no longer 
> available for streaming or downloading by Apple Music subscribers. But again, 
> these are songs I added to my library before I ever subscribed to Apple Music.
> 
> It’s been difficult to find any official info on the different behaviour of 
> Apple Music versus iTunes Match for matched songs. This Apple support article 
> just says "If you're an Apple Music member, you don't need to subscribe to 
> iTunes Match unless you still need to access your music on an Apple TV (2nd 
> or 3rd Generation).” This MacWorld article from July 2015 says that you do 
> need to subscribe to iTunes Match, even if you have an Apple Music 
> subscription, if you want to download tracks without DRM. But that wouldn’t 
> explain why there are occasional “matched” tracks in my library.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Grant
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