Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Brent Harding]

I figured as much on a day like today, it was a joke because nobody would 
want to hold the width of a 20-cell display up to their ears, which I 
invision to be about half the width of my Focus 40 Blue I use mostly for 
work.


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display





You did understand that it was an April Fools joke right?
The price Sieghard mentioned for that imaginary special iPhone was $1000.


Richard



On Apr 1, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:

I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
that I don't have would it cost me???


On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
getting if you can get the funding for it.



On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

It was almost believable, other than the price.
Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.

Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
only hope, grin.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese > wrote:


Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
Feeling a bit sad,
Evan

*From:* Merv Keck 
*Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
*Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



April fools!





   - Original Message -

   *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

   *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

   *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

   *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
   integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



   Hi,



   In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
   morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
   apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
   Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
   braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
   braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
   there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
   touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
   rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
   to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
   skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
   Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
   on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
   a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
   going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
   as "Unlabelled 0":


http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1



   Regards,

   Sieghard



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It is indeed doable, but it remains very tricky to get the menu to display 
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releasing the screen the message might start to play rather than the menu 
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RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Larry Lumpkin]

It seemed slow in the demos I’ve heard but we were actually thinking the same 
thing as you.  We’re probably going to buy one if or when it is released and 
try it.  Aph has a 30-day return policy which should give us plenty of time.  
We’ve seen nothing else that is worth the $2000 or more we’d spend for 
something else.  Most of the offerings on the lower end are 14 or 16 cells 
which don’t seem enough braille real estate for us.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Hi,

Oh please do keep us posted on how you get on with it and what you think of it 
should you have the opportunity to test one out.

Robin

 

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:54 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

 

Very slow is a matter of opinion. I've heard reviews that say it doesn't make 
that much difference.

I have not had my hands on one yet, so I can't say one way or the other. It is 
just something that people will no doubt disagree on what the impact is in 
regular use.

If it does end up being a problem, I will send it back.

But, it will have to be noticeably slow to make me consider spending more than 
4 times that for a different display.

Richard

 


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

Be aware, though, that the responsiveness of the braille cells is very slow.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

 

I'm looking forward to trying the Or20 from American Printing House for the 
Blind and Orbit research. 20 cells, works with pretty much any bluetooth 
device, and will cost around $500.

www.tech.aph.org/or20  

 

 

And this is no April Fools.

Richard

  


On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Lelia,

I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.

It was very well done.

Evan

 

From: Lelia Struve 

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia  

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B.  wrote:

I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.

- Original Message - 

From: Shaf Patel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM

Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed 

Re: Application to access radio channels

[Shaf Patel]

TuneIn radio.


On 4/1/2017 9:59 PM, turab chimthanawala wrote:
> Hi all
> Would like to know of any IOS applications to access radio channels
> worldwide with specific coverage of Indian radio channels.
> Thanks in anticipation
> Best
> Turab
>

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Oh please do keep us posted on how you get on with it and what you think of it 
should you have the opportunity to test one out.
Robin


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display


Very slow is a matter of opinion. I've heard reviews that say it doesn't make 
that much difference.
I have not had my hands on one yet, so I can't say one way or the other. It is 
just something that people will no doubt disagree on what the impact is in 
regular use.
If it does end up being a problem, I will send it back.
But, it will have to be noticeably slow to make me consider spending more than 
4 times that for a different display.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


  Be aware, though, that the responsiveness of the braille cells is very slow.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:45 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

   

   

  I'm looking forward to trying the Or20 from American Printing House for the 
Blind and Orbit research. 20 cells, works with pretty much any bluetooth 
device, and will cost around $500.

  www.tech.aph.org/or20

   

   

  And this is no April Fools.

  Richard




  On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Lelia,

I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.

It was very well done.

Evan

 

From: Lelia Struve 

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia  

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B.  wrote:

  I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.

  Take care.
  Mike
  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
  Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Shaf Patel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM

  Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

   

  $10,000 + tax.


  On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
  > I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
  > that I don't have would it cost me???
  >
  > On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
  >> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
  >> getting if you can get the funding for it.
  >>
  >>
  >> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
  >>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
  >>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
  >>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
  >>>
  >>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
  >>> only hope, grin.
  >>> Richard
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >> > wrote:
  >>>
   Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
   wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
   Feeling a bit sad,
   Evan
  
   *From:* Merv Keck 
   *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
   *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
   with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
  
  
   Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
   each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
   the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
   amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
   friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
   fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
   kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
  

Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Richard Turner]

Very slow is a matter of opinion. I've heard reviews that say it doesn't make 
that much difference.
I have not had my hands on one yet, so I can't say one way or the other. It is 
just something that people will no doubt disagree on what the impact is in 
regular use.
If it does end up being a problem, I will send it back.
But, it will have to be noticeably slow to make me consider spending more than 
4 times that for a different display.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
> wrote:

Be aware, though, that the responsiveness of the braille cells is very slow.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display


I'm looking forward to trying the Or20 from American Printing House for the 
Blind and Orbit research. 20 cells, works with pretty much any bluetooth 
device, and will cost around $500.
www.tech.aph.org/or20


And this is no April Fools.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:
Thanks Lelia,
I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.
It was very well done.
Evan

From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:
I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Shaf Patel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel > wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at 

Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Richard Turner]

I've not had good luck with links lately.
Try this for the Orbit braille display:
http://tech.aph.org/or20/


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:44 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:


I'm looking forward to trying the Or20 from American Printing House for the 
Blind and Orbit research. 20 cells, works with pretty much any bluetooth 
device, and will cost around $500.
www.tech.aph.org/or20


And this is no April Fools.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:

Thanks Lelia,
I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.
It was very well done.
Evan

From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Shaf Patel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel > wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 April fools!





 - Original Message -

 *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 

 *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

 *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
 integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 Hi,



 In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
 morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
 apparently reliable 

RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Larry Lumpkin]

Be aware, though, that the responsiveness of the braille cells is very slow.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

 

I'm looking forward to trying the Or20 from American Printing House for the 
Blind and Orbit research. 20 cells, works with pretty much any bluetooth 
device, and will cost around $500.

www.tech.aph.org/or20  

 

 

And this is no April Fools.

Richard

  


On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Evan Reese  > wrote:

Thanks Lelia,

I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.

It was very well done.

Evan

 

From: Lelia Struve   

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia  

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B.  > wrote:

I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.

- Original Message - 

From: Shaf Patel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM

Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  > 
> wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >>  
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 April fools!





 - Original Message -

 *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com   
 

 *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

 *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
 integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Richard Turner]

I'm looking forward to trying the Or20 from American Printing House for the 
Blind and Orbit research. 20 cells, works with pretty much any bluetooth 
device, and will cost around $500.
www.tech.aph.org/or20


And this is no April Fools.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:

Thanks Lelia,
I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.
It was very well done.
Evan

From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Shaf Patel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel > wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 April fools!





 - Original Message -

 *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 

 *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

 *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
 integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 Hi,



 In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
 morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
 apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
 Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
 braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
 braille cells would take up 

Re: Application to access radio channels

[Richard Turner]

I just did a search in TuneIn Radio for India, this is what I found:
Stations
 
AIR FM Gold
Delhi, India
 
AIR FM Gold
Prasar Bharati All India Radio
 
AIR Vividh Bharati
Mumbai, India
 
Big FM Delhi
Suno Sunao Life Banao
 
Big FM Kolkata
Suno Sunao Life Banao
 
Dukh Niwaran Sahib TV
Ludhiana, India
 
Gyan Darshan 1
Educational TV Channel of India
 
Gyan Darshan 2
Educational TV Channel of India
 
Headlines Today
Delhi, India
 
IBN Lokmat
Delhi, India
 
NewsX
News without Noise
 
OYE FM
Back to Back
 
Power FM
All Hits No Bakwaas !
 
Radio City Bangalore
FM Bole Toh Radio City
 
Radio Mango
Radio Mango
 
Radio Mattoli
Dwarka, India
 
Radio Mirchi
It's Hot!
 
Radio Mirchi
Geetanjali
 
Sadhna TV
Delhi, India
 
Subhavaartha TV
Hyderabad, India

 

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:59 PM, turab chimthanawala  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Would like to know of any IOS applications to access radio channels
> worldwide with specific coverage of Indian radio channels.
> Thanks in anticipation
> Best
> Turab
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RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Jeremy Gilley]

I would have to agree.

Its called spamming up an already full email list. 

Pointless and a waste of time if you ask me.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Hi,

You say: “

April fools has to be the worst and most pointless holiday out there.”

I couldn’t agree more with you I hate it and all that comes with it with the
fire of a thousand suns. And I’m proud to say I didn’t even give it more
time than it took to read it and said no way.

 

Robin

 

 

From: Cristóbal 

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

 

April fools has to be the worst and most pointless holiday out there. 

It would be cool if and when they ever get taptic technology developed to
the point to where lines and dots could be simulated on the screen as though
there were actually Braille present.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Hi,

 

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources
from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for
the blind with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as
this fall, the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch
gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at
just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe
to Today in iOS you can quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32
minutes into the Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know
many on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be a big
hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by going to this
link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":

http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
You say: “
April fools has to be the worst and most pointless holiday out there.”
I couldn’t agree more with you I hate it and all that comes with it with the 
fire of a thousand suns. And I’m proud to say I didn’t even give it more time 
than it took to read it and said no way.

Robin


From: Cristóbal 
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

April fools has to be the worst and most pointless holiday out there. 

It would be cool if and when they ever get taptic technology developed to the 
point to where lines and dots could be simulated on the screen as though there 
were actually Braille present.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Hi,

 

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":

http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Evan Reese]

Thanks Lelia,
I’d heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are other 
devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite a bit more 
expensive), and given Apple’s proven commitment to greater accessibility than, 
say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I was prepared to believe it.
It was very well done.
Evan

From: Lelia Struve 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia  

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
  Take care.
  Mike
  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
  Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shaf Patel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

  $10,000 + tax.


  On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
  > I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
  > that I don't have would it cost me???
  >
  > On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
  >> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
  >> getting if you can get the funding for it.
  >>
  >>
  >> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
  >>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
  >>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
  >>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
  >>>
  >>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
  >>> only hope, grin.
  >>> Richard
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >> > wrote:
  >>>
   Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
   wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
   Feeling a bit sad,
   Evan
  
   *From:* Merv Keck 
   *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
   *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
   with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
  
  
   Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
   each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
   the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
   amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
   friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
   fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
   kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
  
  
  
  
  
   *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
   [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
   *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
   *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
   with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
  
  
  
   April fools!
  
  
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
  
   *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
  
   *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
  
   *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
  
   *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
   integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
  
  
  
   Hi,
  
  
  
   In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
   morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
   apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
   Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
   braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
   braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
   there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
   touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
   rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
   to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
   skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
   Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
   on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
  

Application to access radio channels

[turab chimthanawala]

Hi all
Would like to know of any IOS applications to access radio channels
worldwide with specific coverage of Indian radio channels.
Thanks in anticipation
Best
Turab

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Lelia Struve]

Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and is 
feeling sad. At least you know you're not alone LOL.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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> - Original Message -
> From: Shaf Patel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
> 
> $10,000 + tax.
> 
> 
> On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> > I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> > that I don't have would it cost me???
> >
> > On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> >> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
> >> getting if you can get the funding for it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> >>> It was almost believable, other than the  price.
> >>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
> >>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
> >>>
> >>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
> >>> only hope, grin.
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
>  Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
>  wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
>  Feeling a bit sad,
>  Evan
> 
>  *From:* Merv Keck 
>  *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
>  *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>  with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
> 
> 
>  Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
>  each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
>  the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
>  amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
>  friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
>  fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
>  kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
>  *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
>  *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>  with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
> 
> 
> 
>  April fools!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  - Original Message -
> 
>  *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
> 
>  *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> 
>  *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
> 
>  *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
>  integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi,
> 
> 
> 
>  In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>  morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
>  apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
>  Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
>  braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
>  braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
>  there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
>  touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
>  rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
>  to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
>  skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
>  Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
>  on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
>  a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
>  going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
>  as "Unlabelled 0":
> 
> 
>  http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
> 
> 
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  Sieghard
> 
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Mike B.]

I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: Shaf Patel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 April fools!





 - Original Message -

 *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

 *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

 *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
 integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 Hi,



 In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
 morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
 apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
 Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
 braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
 braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
 there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
 touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
 rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
 to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
 skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
 Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
 on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
 a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
 going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
 as "Unlabelled 0":


 http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1



 Regards,

 Sieghard



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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >> > wrote:
>>>
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan

 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display


 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.





 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 April fools!





 - Original Message -

 *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 

 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

 *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

 *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
 integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display



 Hi,



 In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
 morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
 apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
 Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
 braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
 braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
 there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
 touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
 rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
 to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
 skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
 Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
 on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
 a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
 going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
 as "Unlabelled 0":


 http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1



 Regards,

 Sieghard



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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Richard Turner]

You did understand that it was an April Fools joke right?
The price Sieghard mentioned for that imaginary special iPhone was $1000.


Richard


> On Apr 1, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
> 
>> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>> 
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
 wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
 Feeling a bit sad,
 Evan
 
 *From:* Merv Keck 
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
 
 
 Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
 each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
 the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
 amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
 friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
 fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
 kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
 
 
 
 
 
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
 with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
 
 
 
 April fools!
 
 
 
 
 
- Original Message -
 
*From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
 
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
*Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
 
*Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
 
 
 
Hi,
 
 
 
In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
as "Unlabelled 0":
 
 
 http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
 
 
 
Regards,
 
Sieghard
 
 
 
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Dani Pagador]

I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
that I don't have would it cost me???

On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>
>
> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>
>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>
>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>> only hope, grin.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese > > wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
>>> wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
>>> Feeling a bit sad,
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> *From:* Merv Keck 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>>
>>>
>>> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
>>> each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
>>> the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
>>> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
>>> friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
>>> fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
>>> kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> April fools!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>
>>> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
>>> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
>>> apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
>>> Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
>>> braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
>>> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
>>> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
>>> touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
>>> rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
>>> to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
>>> skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
>>> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
>>> on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
>>> a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
>>> going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
>>> as "Unlabelled 0":
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
getting if you can get the funding for it.


On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> It was almost believable, other than the price.
> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>
> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
> only hope, grin.
> Richard
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese  > wrote:
>
>> Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
>> wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
>> Feeling a bit sad,
>> Evan
>>  
>> *From:* Merv Keck 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>  
>>
>> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
>> each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
>> the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
>> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
>> friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
>> fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
>> kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>
>>  
>>
>> April fools!
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
>>
>> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>>
>> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
>> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
>> apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
>> Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
>> braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
>> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
>> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
>> touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
>> rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
>> to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
>> skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
>> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
>> on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
>> a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
>> going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
>> as "Unlabelled 0":
>>
>> 
>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Richard Turner]

It was almost believable, other than the price.
Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille display, of 
course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.

Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could only hope, 
grin.
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese 
> wrote:

Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by wishful 
thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
Feeling a bit sad,
Evan

From: Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend each year 
trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at the number of people 
who are amused by these obviously fake and not amusing stories. If someone 
posted a fake story about a blind friendly device on May 22nd or a new 
Cumulative update on March fourteenth and then at the end of the message they 
said. Hey only kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

April fools!


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Hi,

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

Regards,
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Re: Note taking apps for low vision iPhone users?

[Richard Turner]

And, Writer will access the same voices you use in Voice Dream' Reader.
It is my go to note taking app.
Richard


> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Pommette  wrote:
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> there? Would love to peg it to nvAlt. Then it would be even Dreamier!
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Re: Sources for lightning cables?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I would also like to recommend the cables made by Ixcc. I first heard of them 
via this list. I had been  using Amazon Basics cables with no complaints, 
except that the lightning plug would not fit through the port on my Outerbox 
Defender case. The one on the Ixcc cables does. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Teresa Christian  wrote:

The AT Guys and Amazon are two good places to get lightening cables.



> On 4/1/17, Cristóbal  wrote:
> I get my cables from Monoprice. Quality products at a very good price with a
> lifetime warranty.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?
> 
> I also had very good experiences with the Amazon Basics cables, I have
> several from 4 inches long to 10 feet long and they all work well and seem
> to last.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Earlene Hughes
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:07 AM
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> Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?
> 
> Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.
> 
> 
> Best,
> -Earlene
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they
> last me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker
> made than regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.
> https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Sources for lightning cables?
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> I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning
> cable is fraying. I need a good source, preferably from amazon, for good
> lightning cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years,
> almost 3 by now, but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Devin Prater]

"Evan Reese"  writes:

> Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by wishful 
> thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
> Feeling a bit sad,
> Evan
> From: Merv Keck 
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend each year 
> trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly
> amazed at the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not 
> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story
> about a blind friendly device on May 22nd or a new Cumulative update on March 
> fourteenth and then at the end of the message they
> said. Hey only kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with 
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
> April fools!
>
>  - Original Message - 
>
>  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
>  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>
>  Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
> 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>  Hi,
>
>  In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
> around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
>  apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is 
> working on a special iPhone for the blind with a
>  20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the 
> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of
>  course there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch 
> gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
>  rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link to the 
> Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can
>  quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the 
> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know
>  many on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be a big 
> hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
>  going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks as 
> "Unlabelled 0":
>
>  http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
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Re: Note taking apps for low vision iPhone users?

[Pommette]

Anyone who is using VoiceDream Writer on the Mac, how do you sync with notes 
there? Would love to peg it to nvAlt. Then it would be even Dreamier!

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Evan Reese]

Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by wishful 
thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
Feeling a bit sad,
Evan

From: Merv Keck 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend each year 
trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at the number of people 
who are amused by these obviously fake and not amusing stories. If someone 
posted a fake story about a blind friendly device on May 22nd or a new 
Cumulative update on March fourteenth and then at the end of the message they 
said. Hey only kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

April fools!

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

  Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

   

  Hi,

   

  In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":

  http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

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Re: Note taking apps for low vision iPhone users?

[Pommette]

I love VoiceDream Reader - never thought of writer for this purpose! Will 
explore. 

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Re: Note taking apps for low vision iPhone users?

[Richard Turner]

You can rename files in AccessNote, it is just a little convoluted.
But, for $9.99, Voice Dream Writer is excellent and you can have up to 40 point 
font and pick from quite a few different fonts.
Here is the link.

Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
https://appsto.re/us/8UV32.i

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Pommette  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I'm looking for a simple text-based note-taking app with customizable fonts 
> that has good search and sync capabilities. I've long used Notesy but I've 
> had sync issues lately and apparently it's no longer supported. I just tried 
> iwriter but even the largest font is tiny. Some research dug up an AFB app 
> called AccessNote but I can't change note titles, plus it doesn't seem like 
> it gets regular updates. Evernote and Apple Note apps are also tiny. I love 
> Drafts but unless I'm missing something, you can't import existing. notes 
> because it's all about getting stuff out there rather than bringing it in. Is 
> anybody using something they like? Thanks!
> Cathy
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Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,

I also have this keyboard. I love it! It types very well. Unfortuanately, it 
doesn't have a lock open feature. You do need a solid surface to work on, but 
it is all worth it to me. 

Jenn 

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> I carry the Microsoft Universal folding keyboard.  It will pair with 3 
> devices at once, and has a button to vary the keyboard functionality  for 
> either Windows, IOS, or Android.
>  
> The downside is that it stretches the definition of “pocket-sized”, being 
> about 5 by 7 inches when folded in half; however, it does have all the 
> modifier keys on both sides of the space bars, as well as function keys and 
> number keys.  So, if you have big pockets, or a bag, it works really great as 
> a portible bluetooth keyboard for any type of device, and you can actually 
> switch between multiple devices paired concurrently.
>  
> Hth,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ketan Kothari
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone
>  
> Hi friends,
>  
> Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
> used with Iphone?  Thank you.
>  
> With best wishes,
>  
> Ketan
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

In other news, leaks obtained from the NFB confirm long standing rumors
that KNFB Reader will be priced at $0.99 from Monday. There will also be
an update with the feature to scan credit cards, and even handwriting.


On 4/1/2017 7:21 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> Well done!
> Richard
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>
>> April fool.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently
>>> reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working
>>> on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell braille display.
>>> This may be available as early as this fall, the braille cells would
>>> take up part of the screen, but of course there still would be a
>>> smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and
>>> it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over
>>> $1,000 US. Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe
>>> to Today in iOS you can quickly skip ahead and start listening at
>>> around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I am not much of a braille user
>>> myself, but I know many on this list use braille all the time and
>>> this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now the
>>> link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the
>>> button Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
>>>
>>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sieghard
>>>
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Richard Turner]

Well done!
Richard


On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

April fool.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Hi,

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

Regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

Get over yourself. Learn how to take a joke.

PS: CNN is partially fake news.


On 4/1/2017 6:49 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
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> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend each
> year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at the
> number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind friendly
> device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March fourteenth and
> then at the end of the message they said. Hey only kidding. Everyone
> would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>  
>
> April fools!
>
>  
>
>  
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
>
> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>
> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
> apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
> Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
> braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
> touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
> rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
> to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
> skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
> on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be a
> big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
> going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
> as "Unlabelled 0":
>
> 
> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
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RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Cristóbal]

April fools has to be the worst and most pointless holiday out there. 

It would be cool if and when they ever get taptic technology developed to the 
point to where lines and dots could be simulated on the screen as though there 
were actually Braille present.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Hi,

 

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":

http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Merv Keck]

Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend each year 
trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at the number of people 
who are amused by these obviously fake and not amusing stories. If someone 
posted a fake story about a blind friendly device on May 22nd or a new 
Cumulative update on March fourteenth and then at the end of the message they 
said. Hey only kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

April fools!

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM

Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display

 

Hi,

 

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":

http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Note taking apps for low vision iPhone users?

[Pommette]

Hi All,
I'm looking for a simple text-based note-taking app with customizable fonts 
that has good search and sync capabilities. I've long used Notesy but I've had 
sync issues lately and apparently it's no longer supported. I just tried 
iwriter but even the largest font is tiny. Some research dug up an AFB app 
called AccessNote but I can't change note titles, plus it doesn't seem like it 
gets regular updates. Evernote and Apple Note apps are also tiny. I love Drafts 
but unless I'm missing something, you can't import existing. notes because it's 
all about getting stuff out there rather than bringing it in. Is anybody using 
something they like? Thanks!
Cathy

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Andy Baracco]

April fools!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
  Subject: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 
2-row 20-cell braille display


  Hi,

   

  In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
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it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
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am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":

  http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   


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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

Yeah, nice one.

Trust no one today.


On 4/1/2017 6:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> April fool.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently
>> reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working
>> on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell braille display.
>> This may be available as early as this fall, the braille cells would
>> take up part of the screen, but of course there still would be a
>> smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and it
>> will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000
>> US. Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today
>> in iOS you can quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32
>> minutes into the Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but
>> I know many on this list use braille all the time and this would
>> probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you
>> listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws
>> speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
>>
>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
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>>  
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Mary Otten]

April fool.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
> around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources 
> from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for 
> the blind with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as 
> this fall, the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course 
> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures 
> as well and it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over 
> $1,000 US. Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today 
> in iOS you can quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes 
> into the Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on 
> this list use braille all the time and this would probably be a big hit for 
> braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by going to this link on a 
> computer look for the button Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
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Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this morning at 
around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently reliable sources from 
Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind 
with a 20-cell braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, 
the braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course there still 
would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and 
it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. 
Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can 
quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I 
am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many on this list use braille 
all the time and this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now 
the link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button 
Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devicesand Accounts

[Kliphton Miller]

Hello, I have been using this method of security ever since it was introduced 
with IOS 10, at 1st I didn’t like it, but since it secures my account, and I 
can authorize it from my phone, I got use to it.  Now I know can’t nobody use 
my iCloud account without having my phone or another device signed into my 
appleID.
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sieghard,  
> 
> As strange as it may sound, it is possible to have a gMail address serve as 
> an Apple ID and in so doing, access Apple servers, instead of gMail servers, 
> even with a gMail email address.
> 
> I have seen this, in fact.  Generally it is not recommended as it causes far 
> more problems than it resolves.  The only reason this kind of thing can occur 
> is because Apple was slow in determining the protocols for its Apple IDs, 
> some years back and some of these accounts slipped through the proverbial 
> cracks.  
> 
> However, in Matthews situation, I suspect that the email account to which he 
> is referring is not the same one by which he participates in this forum.
> 
> Just a guess.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
> Devicesand Accounts
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> 
> Can  you be more specific? You seem to be using gmail. Are you using it via 
> the POP or the IMAP protocol? Whether you turn on two-factor authentication 
> for your Apple Id should have no connection to your gmail account which is 
> why I am not sure where the two interact.
> I use Outlook.com for my email and I have turned on two-factor authentication 
> for my Microsoft account. Because of this I have to use what is referred to 
> as "app specific passwords" when I set up my email account in the Outlook 
> desktop client or on my iPhone using the mail app. I get these app specific 
> passwords by logging into my Microsoft account and somewhere in the security 
> settings there is an option to generate these, if I want to set up Outlook on 
> two computers and also set up my account on my iPhone I have to generate 3 
> separate passwords and use a different one for each configuration. I assume 
> maybe if you enable two-factor authentication for your gmail account you may 
> have to do the same by logging into your Google account, but I'm not sure, I 
> do know that when I log into my Apple Id there is an option to generate app 
> specific passwords, but I have not run into a situation when I needed one. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> matthew dyer
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
> Devicesand Accounts
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I am using mail for windows ten but I keep getting a message that my icloud 
> settings are out of date.  Do I need to have a spasific password for the mail 
> app as I could not get things work after playing with it.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
> Devicesand Accounts
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
> from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
> including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
> after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
> as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
> Two-Factor authentication.  
> 
> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
> so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
> the entire process.
> 
> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
> prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
> you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
> thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
> not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
> prompted.  
> 
> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
> all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
> as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
> an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
> versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
> 
> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush 

Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Judy Pryor]

I use the Rivo and like it. The keys are like a keypad on a landline phone and 
there are 4 function keys either side of the keyboard. 
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Apr 2017, at 21:32, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> I seem to remember that a tiny RiVO keyboard came out a couple of years sgo. 
> Is anyone still using it or an equivalent genuinely pocket-sized keyboard? 
> Harry
> 
>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 21:26, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> I carry the Microsoft Universal folding keyboard.  It will pair with 3 
>> devices at once, and has a button to vary the keyboard functionality  for 
>> either Windows, IOS, or Android.
>>  
>> The downside is that it stretches the definition of “pocket-sized”, being 
>> about 5 by 7 inches when folded in half; however, it does have all the 
>> modifier keys on both sides of the space bars, as well as function keys and 
>> number keys.  So, if you have big pockets, or a bag, it works really great 
>> as a portible bluetooth keyboard for any type of device, and you can 
>> actually switch between multiple devices paired concurrently.
>>  
>> Hth,
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ketan Kothari
>> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone
>>  
>> Hi friends,
>>  
>> Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
>> used with Iphone?  Thank you.
>>  
>> With best wishes,
>>  
>> Ketan
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RE: 3rd party watch bands

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have bought the Milanese Loop band from Amazon for around $20 canadian and 
love it. I only looked at the original Apple ones (milanese loop and linked 
bracelet) for a short time, but I can't see a difference with these ones 
especially not one that justified buying one that is 8 or 10 times more 
expensive. I had at one point also ordered a linked bracelet band from Amazon 
and while it was also very nice I had to return it because due to a hand injury 
it did not work well for me. Just make sure you check in the description that 
you are buying the one for the size of your watch, 38mm or 42mm.
Below is a link on the canadian Amazon website and I'm pretty sure that is the 
one I bought, it comes in silver, black or rose gold:
https://www.amazon.ca/JETech-Milanese-Stainless-Buckle-Needed/dp/B016G49CZC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1491083982=8-2=milanese+loop+band+for+apple+watch

I did also buy one which was advertised as a Leather Loop band and while it is 
OK and has a very strong magnet, I really don't think it is leather based on 
the smell, it seems more like something synthetic to me and I don't use it 
much. The one thing  find with the milanese loop band is that if you wear a 
long-sleeve sweater which is a bit fuzzy on the inside that some threads can 
get stuck in the band, but for the most part it's not a problem.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joe Quinn
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:40 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: 3rd party watch bands

I Am looking at purchasing some of the more expensive watch bands that apple 
has, but want to fine them cheaper from Plex! Like amazon. Any good brands for, 
like the stainless steel or the Milanese loop bands? Thanks again! :) 

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Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Marie]

I am interested in this keyboard. Can you tell me if, when in the Windows mode, 
does it have the context key on the right of the right side Alt key? I depend 
on this context key so often I hate keyboards which do not have it.
Thanks, Marie


From: Chip Orange 
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

I carry the Microsoft Universal folding keyboard.  It will pair with 3 devices 
at once, and has a button to vary the keyboard functionality  for either 
Windows, IOS, or Android.

 

The downside is that it stretches the definition of “pocket-sized”, being about 
5 by 7 inches when folded in half; however, it does have all the modifier keys 
on both sides of the space bars, as well as function keys and number keys.  So, 
if you have big pockets, or a bag, it works really great as a portible 
bluetooth keyboard for any type of device, and you can actually switch between 
multiple devices paired concurrently.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ketan Kothari
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

 

Hi friends,

 

Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
used with Iphone?  Thank you.

 

With best wishes,

 

Ketan

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Re: What's app question

[Andy Baracco]

Those messages are encrypted, so I doubt that they could be played outside 
of the app.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Chip Orange" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: What's app question


Only as a zip file of messages, and they're in some unusual format (I 
can't recall), and I haven't found an app on the phone which will play the 
messages right from the zip file; I had hoped for voice Dream Reader, but 
I think I tried and had no luck.


Chip


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Of Marco Chan

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's app question

Can we forward voice message from What's app.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: A great calendar app!

[Chip Orange]

I'm always interested in trying something new, but this app has no trial 
version, and seems to have had almost no updates (except this recompilation as 
a 64-bit app) since it's release in 2013?

Chip


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Harry Bell
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:17 AM
To: Abridged Recipients
Subject: Fwd: A great calendar app!


In case any low vision folk find it useful, VO Calendar app has just had an 
update so it will no longer threaten to slow down your iphone! See below. Harry
> 
> VO Calendar by Devista B.V.
> 
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Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Richard Turner]

Chip, does this keyboard lock open?
Or do you have to have a solid surface to put it on?
Richard


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Doom: with criticism comes wisdom and, hopefully, tea." – Gail Carriger,  
Soulless, part 1 of the Parasol Protectorate
(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Harry Bell 
> wrote:

I seem to remember that a tiny RiVO keyboard came out a couple of years sgo. Is 
anyone still using it or an equivalent genuinely pocket-sized keyboard? Harry

On 1 Apr 2017, at 21:26, Chip Orange 
> wrote:

I carry the Microsoft Universal folding keyboard.  It will pair with 3 devices 
at once, and has a button to vary the keyboard functionality  for either 
Windows, IOS, or Android.

The downside is that it stretches the definition of “pocket-sized”, being about 
5 by 7 inches when folded in half; however, it does have all the modifier keys 
on both sides of the space bars, as well as function keys and number keys.  So, 
if you have big pockets, or a bag, it works really great as a portible 
bluetooth keyboard for any type of device, and you can actually switch between 
multiple devices paired concurrently.

Hth,

Chip



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

Hi friends,

Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
used with Iphone?  Thank you.

With best wishes,

Ketan
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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devicesand Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,  

As strange as it may sound, it is possible to have a gMail address serve as an 
Apple ID and in so doing, access Apple servers, instead of gMail servers, even 
with a gMail email address.

I have seen this, in fact.  Generally it is not recommended as it causes far 
more problems than it resolves.  The only reason this kind of thing can occur 
is because Apple was slow in determining the protocols for its Apple IDs, some 
years back and some of these accounts slipped through the proverbial cracks.  

However, in Matthews situation, I suspect that the email account to which he is 
referring is not the same one by which he participates in this forum.

Just a guess.

Mark 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Hi Matthew,

Can  you be more specific? You seem to be using gmail. Are you using it via the 
POP or the IMAP protocol? Whether you turn on two-factor authentication for 
your Apple Id should have no connection to your gmail account which is why I am 
not sure where the two interact.
I use Outlook.com for my email and I have turned on two-factor authentication 
for my Microsoft account. Because of this I have to use what is referred to as 
"app specific passwords" when I set up my email account in the Outlook desktop 
client or on my iPhone using the mail app. I get these app specific passwords 
by logging into my Microsoft account and somewhere in the security settings 
there is an option to generate these, if I want to set up Outlook on two 
computers and also set up my account on my iPhone I have to generate 3 separate 
passwords and use a different one for each configuration. I assume maybe if you 
enable two-factor authentication for your gmail account you may have to do the 
same by logging into your Google account, but I'm not sure, I do know that when 
I log into my Apple Id there is an option to generate app specific passwords, 
but I have not run into a situation when I needed one. 

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Mark,

I am using mail for windows ten but I keep getting a message that my icloud 
settings are out of date.  Do I need to have a spasific password for the mail 
app as I could not get things work after playing with it.  HTH.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
(smile). 

RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devicesand Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello Matthew,

If your message is referring to an Apple email address, and you have enabled 
two-factor authentication, then the answer is yes.  From within your Apple ID 
account page, you will need to generate an app-specific password for your Mail 
client.  You only need to enter this password once, assuming  that your client 
is set to remember passwords.  

By the way, they call it an app-specific password but you can use it on 
multiple clients; I know because I’ve done it.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Mark,

I am using mail for windows ten but I keep getting a message that my icloud 
settings are out of date.  Do I need to have a spasific password for the mail 
app as I could not get things work after playing with it.  HTH.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
(smile). 

Mark

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Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Harry Bell]

I seem to remember that a tiny RiVO keyboard came out a couple of years sgo. Is 
anyone still using it or an equivalent genuinely pocket-sized keyboard? Harry

> On 1 Apr 2017, at 21:26, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> I carry the Microsoft Universal folding keyboard.  It will pair with 3 
> devices at once, and has a button to vary the keyboard functionality  for 
> either Windows, IOS, or Android.
>  
> The downside is that it stretches the definition of “pocket-sized”, being 
> about 5 by 7 inches when folded in half; however, it does have all the 
> modifier keys on both sides of the space bars, as well as function keys and 
> number keys.  So, if you have big pockets, or a bag, it works really great as 
> a portible bluetooth keyboard for any type of device, and you can actually 
> switch between multiple devices paired concurrently.
>  
> Hth,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ketan Kothari
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone
>  
> Hi friends,
>  
> Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
> used with Iphone?  Thank you.
>  
> With best wishes,
>  
> Ketan
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RE: What's app question

[Chip Orange]

Only as a zip file of messages, and they're in some unusual format (I can't 
recall), and I haven't found an app on the phone which will play the messages 
right from the zip file; I had hoped for voice Dream Reader, but I think I 
tried and had no luck.

Chip


-Original Message-
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Marco Chan
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's app question

Can we forward voice message from What's app.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,  

First, let me say that your statement, " Well, Mark, now that nobody else can 
get in, can you still get out?", is one of the cleverest turns of a phrase I've 
ever read.  Bravo!!!  

Second, to answer your question, one can add multiple trusted phone numbers to 
the two-factor authentication process.  

So, in the scenario where one only has 1 apple device, I would recommend that 
he/she add at least two trusted phone numbers, the first being on the iPhone, 
itself, and a second 1 being either a home phone, work phone, etc.  

Remember that one can use any of the trusted phone numbers via SMS or voice.

So, here is how it would work in the scenario in which we are speaking:

1.
I only have one Apple device, an iPhone.  I lost my iPhone or it was stolen and 
I want to login to my Apple account to either wipe the phone, remove it as a 
trusted device, turn off two-factor authentication, etc.

2.
I go to any modern web browser and browse to http://appleid.apple.com.

3.
I enter my Apple ID and Password.

4.
I am now prompted to enter a 6-digit code that was pushed to all of my trusted 
Apple devices.  In this same dialog box, there is a link that reads, 
effectively, "Did not receive a code?  Click here for more options." 

5.
Since I am no longer in possession of such a device I select the More Options 
link.

6.
Now I have the option of using any of my trusted phone numbers and I can decide 
to have the code sent either via SMS or voice.  

That's all there is to it.

Finally, let me be clear in stating that there are scenarios in which 
two-factor authentication could prevent you from gaining access to your 
account.  That's the point of the security measure, when you think about it.

So, as I said in my previous post to this thread, read everything carefully and 
try to plan for unforeseen situations as best you can.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devices and Accounts

Well, Mark, now that nobody else can get in, can you still get out?
For those who have only one device keep in mind you can also specify the iPhone 
of a close and trusted friend or family member as a trusted device.
How does this work, Mark, if you only have one device and somebody steels it 
and you need to log in to iCloud let's say from not your own trusted computer 
and you need to provide a code. If the code is sent to your phone how does this 
help if a thief has your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices 
and Accounts

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple accounts 
on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows 8, Mac, 
iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts from legacy Windows 
based clients but, after updating all components, including the latest versions 
of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of 
old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all 
of my products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I 
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn 
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be 
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code you 
will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best thing is 
that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will not be 
prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on all 
of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs as 
beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate an 
application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older 
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the 
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to 
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize yourself 
with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into that 
site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone number.

Good Luck 

RE: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Chip Orange]

I carry the Microsoft Universal folding keyboard.  It will pair with 3 devices 
at once, and has a button to vary the keyboard functionality  for either 
Windows, IOS, or Android.

 

The downside is that it stretches the definition of “pocket-sized”, being about 
5 by 7 inches when folded in half; however, it does have all the modifier keys 
on both sides of the space bars, as well as function keys and number keys.  So, 
if you have big pockets, or a bag, it works really great as a portible 
bluetooth keyboard for any type of device, and you can actually switch between 
multiple devices paired concurrently.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ketan Kothari
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

 

Hi friends,

 

Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
used with Iphone?  Thank you.

 

With best wishes,

 

Ketan

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Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Teresa Christian]

The RII keyboard is 3 by 5 inches, is Bluetooth and can be purchased
at the AT Guys as well as on Amazon.

There are a number of other good ones too.

The Logitec Ultra Thin is another good and small keyboard that works
well with iPhones.



On 4/1/17, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> The Rii mini is the normal one,   and I have one I don't use.  But I'm in
> the Uk,  and no idea where you are.
>
> Hth, BobH.
> - Original Message -
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> To: 
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> Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone
>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be
> used with Iphone?  Thank you.
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> With best wishes,
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Re: Sources for lightning cables?

[Teresa Christian]

The AT Guys and Amazon are two good places to get lightening cables.



On 4/1/17, Cristóbal  wrote:
> I get my cables from Monoprice. Quality products at a very good price with a
> lifetime warranty.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?
>
> I also had very good experiences with the Amazon Basics cables, I have
> several from 4 inches long to 10 feet long and they all work well and seem
> to last.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Earlene Hughes
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?
>
> Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.
>
>
> Best,
> -Earlene
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of MamaPeach
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sources for lightning cables?
>
> I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they
> last me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker
> made than regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.
> https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Quinn
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:59 AM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Sources for lightning cables?
>
> I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning
> cable is fraying. I need a good source, preferably from amazon, for good
> lightning cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years,
> almost 3 by now, but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't
> really want apple provided cables because I've heard that 3r? Party ones
> seem to be stronger. Thoughts?
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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

What I love about Overcast is the high sound quality when I speed things up. In 
addition to listening quickly, there's a Smart Speed effect that makes podcasts 
shorter by shortening pauses and a voice Boost effect that equalizes the 
volume. I realized how good the Voice Boost effect was when I listened to a 
podcast with a Skype interview. The host apologized profusely at the end for a 
discrepancy in volume between the host and caller. I heard no such discrepancy; 
both of them came through just fine.

You can also save different effects with different podcasts, so if one has a 
host who talks particularly fast, you can listen to that show at a slower speed 
than other podcasts.

Best,
Anna



> On Apr 1, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> Going off of memory, but I’m pretty sure there’s an export option in Downcast 
> settings where you can generate an OPML file  with all your subscription 
> feeds to import into another app or backup. I think you can even import 
> directly from Overcast. I’m not entirely sure about that though.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:07 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com ' 
> >
> Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Is there a way to export our podcast profile from Downcast to Overcast? I’m 
> hoping Downcast will last, but Overcast will be my next try if necessary. I’d 
> like to avoid if possible having to rebuild my podcast library.
>  
> Thanks in advance, Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>  
> The only drawback with iCatcher or at least why I’m partial to Downcast is 
> that downcast allows for 3X playback speed. I believe Overcast also allows 
> for 3X playback, but Downcast offers more customizable settings which I 
> prefer for certain podcasts.
> This would be a real bummer if Downcast has in fact been abandoned. Hopefully 
> the dev is just slow to put out an update. When I’ve written in the past 
> about this or that issue, I’ve usually gotten a response.
> Haven’t used iCatcher in a long time. Any chance 3X is now available? I wrote 
> the iCatcher dev in the past about it and at that time, he said that he had 
> no plans on bumping playback speed to 3X. I’d even be happy with 4X, but 
> doubt that anyone’s going to go that high It would be ideal to be able to use 
> the native podcast app, but so far, the third part ones at least for my 
> money, offer an overall better experience.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Brett
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>  
> Hi, 
> Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
> actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
> voiceOver users. 
>  
> Hope this helps, 
> Brett. 
>  
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
>> bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to 
>> the issue. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Feliciano
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>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its 
>>> unstable when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app 
>>> will just totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was 
>>> wondering if others have this problem as well?
>>> 
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
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3rd party watch bands

[Joe Quinn]

I Am looking at purchasing some of the more expensive watch bands that apple 
has, but want to fine them cheaper from Plex! Like amazon. Any good brands for, 
like the stainless steel or the Milanese loop bands? Thanks again! :) 

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RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Cristóbal]

Going off of memory, but I’m pretty sure there’s an export option in Downcast 
settings where you can generate an OPML file  with all your subscription feeds 
to import into another app or backup. I think you can even import directly from 
Overcast. I’m not entirely sure about that though.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:07 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

 

Hi,

 

Is there a way to export our podcast profile from Downcast to Overcast? I’m 
hoping Downcast will last, but Overcast will be my next try if necessary. I’d 
like to avoid if possible having to rebuild my podcast library.

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

 

The only drawback with iCatcher or at least why I’m partial to Downcast is that 
downcast allows for 3X playback speed. I believe Overcast also allows for 3X 
playback, but Downcast offers more customizable settings which I prefer for 
certain podcasts.

This would be a real bummer if Downcast has in fact been abandoned. Hopefully 
the dev is just slow to put out an update. When I’ve written in the past about 
this or that issue, I’ve usually gotten a response.

Haven’t used iCatcher in a long time. Any chance 3X is now available? I wrote 
the iCatcher dev in the past about it and at that time, he said that he had no 
plans on bumping playback speed to 3X. I’d even be happy with 4X, but doubt 
that anyone’s going to go that high. It would be ideal to be able to use the 
native podcast app, but so far, the third part ones at least for my money, 
offer an overall better experience.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

 

Hi, 

Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users. 

 

Hope this helps, 

Brett. 

 


Cheers Brett. 

 


On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  > wrote:

Hi,

I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
issue. 

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its unstable 
when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app will just 
totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was wondering if 
others have this problem as well?

Greetings, Anouk,

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RE: Sources for lightning cables?

[Cristóbal]

I get my cables from Monoprice. Quality products at a very good price with a 
lifetime warranty.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 9:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?

I also had very good experiences with the Amazon Basics cables, I have several 
from 4 inches long to 10 feet long and they all work well and seem to last.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Earlene Hughes
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?

Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.


Best,
-Earlene

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MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for lightning cables?

I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they last 
me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker made than 
regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.
https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
-Original Message-
From: Joe Quinn
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:59 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sources for lightning cables?

I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning cable 
is fraying. I need a good source, preferably from amazon, for good lightning 
cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years, almost 3 by now, 
but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't really want apple 
provided cables because I've heard that 3r? Party ones seem to be stronger. 
Thoughts?

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App For Fastfood Restaurant Coupons In Canada?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

I am looking for recommendations for an IPhone app that could give me the
coupons, discounts, promotions, specials and deals from fastfood restaurants
in Canada?

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Re: Sources for lightning cables?

[Alan Lemly]

I've had great success with the Anker lightning cables purchased from Amazon. 
You can get these in various lengths and materials and the ones I've tried are 
all still in service and very well made. I've also had great success with their 
external battery chargers too. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning 
> cable is fraying. I need a good source, preferably from amazon, for good 
> lightning cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years, 
> almost 3 by now, but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't 
> really want apple provided cables because I've heard that 3r? Party ones seem 
> to be stronger. Thoughts? 
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Re: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

The Rii mini is the normal one,   and I have one I don't use.  But I'm in the 
Uk,  and no idea where you are.

Hth, BobH.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 2:28 PM
Subject: Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone


Hi friends,

Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
used with Iphone?  Thank you.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Re: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

[Brian Fischler]

I agree as I had the Apple 3rd Gen and bought the 4th Gen, and consider the 
Apple TV 4th Gen the worst investment I have ever made. I believe with the 
Apple TV 3rd Gen that Apple controlled the Apps and made them VO accessible, 
now with the 4th Gen Apple TV the individual developers control their apps and 
most of them are not accessible. Absolutely pathetic the direction of the 4th 
Gen Apple TV is headed.
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> An interesting suggestion and one Apple of course could well afford. It would 
> be nice if something like this could be brought directly to the attention of 
> Tim Cook, but I am doubtful that posting this via social media or in an email 
> to Apple Accessibility will ever make it up the chain. Of course we have to 
> continue to lobby for our needs and hope that the overall commitment Apple 
> has towards accessibility in time results in a net gain and not a net loss. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app 
> and many, many others.  
> 
> All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media 
> and in the App Store.  
> 
> A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive 
> in order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible.  For 
> example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it 
> to keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Ruby
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
> 
> Hi, is it just me?
> It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more 
> apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not 
> accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it.
> 
> Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and 
> find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the 
> shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back.
> 
> I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch 
> a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them.
> 
> So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all 
> using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might 
> be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, 
> fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider 
> is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since 
> mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck.
> 
> Maybe it is me?
> 
> Thans for any thoughts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Brian Fischler]

Would love to hear what people like so much about Overcast. I consider myself a 
power podcast user with over 100 subscriptions and now the stupid Overcast app 
just keeps force quitting and this was after removing the app and reinstalling. 
What an awful app.
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> I just re downloaded Overcast which I have not used in about a year, and 
> unfortunately it wants to download over 13,000 episodes. I clicked the stream 
> button at the top but the app still seems to want to download the episodes. 
> Would love to hear if there is a way to stop this as the device gets really 
> hot while attempting to download all these episodes, and it also looks like 
> it will not download any episodes as the number just stays the same.
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Is there a way to export our podcast profile from Downcast to Overcast? I’m 
>> hoping Downcast will last, but Overcast will be my next try if necessary. 
>> I’d like to avoid if possible having to rebuild my podcast library.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance, Keith
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
>> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>>  
>> The only drawback with iCatcher or at least why I’m partial to Downcast is 
>> that downcast allows for 3X playback speed. I believe Overcast also allows 
>> for 3X playback, but Downcast offers more customizable settings which I 
>> prefer for certain podcasts.
>> This would be a real bummer if Downcast has in fact been abandoned. 
>> Hopefully the dev is just slow to put out an update. When I’ve written in 
>> the past about this or that issue, I’ve usually gotten a response.
>> Haven’t used iCatcher in a long time. Any chance 3X is now available? I 
>> wrote the iCatcher dev in the past about it and at that time, he said that 
>> he had no plans on bumping playback speed to 3X. I’d even be happy with 4X, 
>> but doubt that anyone’s going to go that high. It would be ideal to be able 
>> to use the native podcast app, but so far, the third part ones at least for 
>> my money, offer an overall better experience.
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Brett
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>>  
>> Hi, 
>> Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
>> actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
>> voiceOver users. 
>>  
>> Hope this helps, 
>> Brett. 
>>  
>> 
>> Cheers Brett. 
>>  
>> 
>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
>> bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to 
>> the issue. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Feliciano
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>> 
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>> 
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its 
>> unstable when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app 
>> will just totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was 
>> wondering if others have this problem as well?
>> 
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Brian Fischler]

I just re downloaded Overcast which I have not used in about a year, and 
unfortunately it wants to download over 13,000 episodes. I clicked the stream 
button at the top but the app still seems to want to download the episodes. 
Would love to hear if there is a way to stop this as the device gets really hot 
while attempting to download all these episodes, and it also looks like it will 
not download any episodes as the number just stays the same.
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Is there a way to export our podcast profile from Downcast to Overcast? I’m 
> hoping Downcast will last, but Overcast will be my next try if necessary. I’d 
> like to avoid if possible having to rebuild my podcast library.
>  
> Thanks in advance, Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>  
> The only drawback with iCatcher or at least why I’m partial to Downcast is 
> that downcast allows for 3X playback speed. I believe Overcast also allows 
> for 3X playback, but Downcast offers more customizable settings which I 
> prefer for certain podcasts.
> This would be a real bummer if Downcast has in fact been abandoned. Hopefully 
> the dev is just slow to put out an update. When I’ve written in the past 
> about this or that issue, I’ve usually gotten a response.
> Haven’t used iCatcher in a long time. Any chance 3X is now available? I wrote 
> the iCatcher dev in the past about it and at that time, he said that he had 
> no plans on bumping playback speed to 3X. I’d even be happy with 4X, but 
> doubt that anyone’s going to go that high. It would be ideal to be able to 
> use the native podcast app, but so far, the third part ones at least for my 
> money, offer an overall better experience.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Brett
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3
>  
> Hi, 
> Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
> actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
> voiceOver users. 
>  
> Hope this helps, 
> Brett. 
>  
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
> bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
> issue. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, LIKEwww.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
> 
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its 
> unstable when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app 
> will just totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was 
> wondering if others have this problem as well?
> 
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
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RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Is there a way to export our podcast profile from Downcast to Overcast? I’m 
hoping Downcast will last, but Overcast will be my next try if necessary. I’d 
like to avoid if possible having to rebuild my podcast library.

Thanks in advance, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

The only drawback with iCatcher or at least why I’m partial to Downcast is that 
downcast allows for 3X playback speed. I believe Overcast also allows for 3X 
playback, but Downcast offers more customizable settings which I prefer for 
certain podcasts.
This would be a real bummer if Downcast has in fact been abandoned. Hopefully 
the dev is just slow to put out an update. When I’ve written in the past about 
this or that issue, I’ve usually gotten a response.
Haven’t used iCatcher in a long time. Any chance 3X is now available? I wrote 
the iCatcher dev in the past about it and at that time, he said that he had no 
plans on bumping playback speed to 3X. I’d even be happy with 4X, but doubt 
that anyone’s going to go that high. It would be ideal to be able to use the 
native podcast app, but so far, the third part ones at least for my money, 
offer an overall better experience.
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Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

Hi,
Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users.

Hope this helps,
Brett.


Cheers Brett.


On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy 
> wrote:
Hi,
I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
issue.

Regards,
Feliciano
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> wrote:
Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its unstable 
when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app will just 
totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was wondering if 
others have this problem as well?

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Re: Sources for lightning cables?

[MamaPeach]

I was buying the Amazon basic lightning cables but they would only last a 
couple of months, so I switched to the New Trent ones. I have had one cable 
now for almost a year and have not had any trouble at all with it. I like 
the fact that they are thicker cables and like I said, the part that plugs 
into the device is thicker too. I normally buy two ahead, just to make sure 
I have back ups when I need them, but so far, I haven't had to use my back 
ups. The price at Amazon fluctuates from time to time, I have gotten them as 
low as $5.99 before.


-Original Message- 
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Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?

I also had very good experiences with the Amazon Basics cables, I have 
several from 4 inches long to 10 feet long and they all work well and seem 
to last.



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Subject: RE: Sources for lightning cables?

Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.


Best,
-Earlene

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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:41 AM
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I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they 
last me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker 
made than regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.

https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
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I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning 
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lightning cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years, 
almost 3 by now, but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't 
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RE: Sources for lightning cables?

[Mike Ulrich]

Heck, don't we all at one time or another!

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Earlene Hughes
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Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.


Best,
-Earlene

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MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Sources for lightning cables?

I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they last 
me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker made than 
regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.
https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
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I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning cable 
is fraying. I need a good source, preferably from amazon, for good lightning 
cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years, almost 3 by now, 
but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't really want apple 
provided cables because I've heard that 3r? Party ones seem to be stronger. 
Thoughts?

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RE: Sources for lightning cables?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also had very good experiences with the Amazon Basics cables, I have several 
from 4 inches long to 10 feet long and they all work well and seem to last.


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Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.


Best,
-Earlene

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I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they last 
me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker made than 
regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.
https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
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I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning cable 
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but still! :) thanks for any helm anyone can provide! Don't really want apple 
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RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Cristóbal]

The only drawback with iCatcher or at least why I’m partial to Downcast is that 
downcast allows for 3X playback speed. I believe Overcast also allows for 3X 
playback, but Downcast offers more customizable settings which I prefer for 
certain podcasts.

This would be a real bummer if Downcast has in fact been abandoned. Hopefully 
the dev is just slow to put out an update. When I’ve written in the past about 
this or that issue, I’ve usually gotten a response.

Haven’t used iCatcher in a long time. Any chance 3X is now available? I wrote 
the iCatcher dev in the past about it and at that time, he said that he had no 
plans on bumping playback speed to 3X. I’d even be happy with 4X, but doubt 
that anyone’s going to go that high. It would be ideal to be able to use the 
native podcast app, but so far, the third part ones at least for my money, 
offer an overall better experience.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

 

Hi, 

Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users. 

 

Hope this helps, 

Brett. 

 


Cheers Brett. 

 


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Hi,

I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
issue. 

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its unstable 
when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app will just 
totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was wondering if 
others have this problem as well?

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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devicesand Accounts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Matthew,

Can  you be more specific? You seem to be using gmail. Are you using it via the 
POP or the IMAP protocol? Whether you turn on two-factor authentication for 
your Apple Id should have no connection to your gmail account which is why I am 
not sure where the two interact.
I use Outlook.com for my email and I have turned on two-factor authentication 
for my Microsoft account. Because of this I have to use what is referred to as 
"app specific passwords" when I set up my email account in the Outlook desktop 
client or on my iPhone using the mail app. I get these app specific passwords 
by logging into my Microsoft account and somewhere in the security settings 
there is an option to generate these, if I want to set up Outlook on two 
computers and also set up my account on my iPhone I have to generate 3 separate 
passwords and use a different one for each configuration. I assume maybe if you 
enable two-factor authentication for your gmail account you may have to do the 
same by logging into your Google account, but I'm not sure, I do know that when 
I log into my Apple Id there is an option to generate app specific passwords, 
but I have not run into a situation when I needed one.

Regards,
Sieghard

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matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Mark,

I am using mail for windows ten but I keep getting a message that my icloud 
settings are out of date.  Do I need to have a spasific password for the mail 
app as I could not get things work after playing with it.  HTH.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
Two-Factor authentication.

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
prompted.

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
(smile).

Mark

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Thank you for the lightning cable recommendation! I need a new cable too.


Best,
-Earlene

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Subject: Re: Sources for lightning cables?

I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they 
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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi
I have updated my iPhone 7 to 10.3 and Downty has keeps repeating the podcast 
that I'm listening to for some reason and it keeps crashing I don't know why
Becky

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 12:43 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hi,

I use Downcast, on a daily basis for more than an hour a day and I have 
observed absolutely no problems with the app.  I am extremely please with it, 
as of iOS 10.3.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

Hi, 
Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett. 


Cheers Brett. 


On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
Hi,
I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
issue. 

Regards, 
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On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its unstable 
when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app will just 
totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was wondering if 
others have this problem as well?

Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

[Davy Cuppens]

Just call Aplle support for this kind of problems.

From: Jeffrey Turner 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

Hi Sieghard,

 

I thought I had read that the 5 was supported, so was puzzled when it did not 
show up under software updates on my clients’ phones. We were going through the 
recommended process of backing up their phones, emptying the ap switcher,, 
turning off their phones for 30 seconds, and then updating, but both their 
phones insisted their software was up to date, even though they only have 
version 10.2.1. Oh, and yes, they were both plugged into live power and 
connected to WI/FI at the time.

 

I know sometimes Apple rolls things out geographically, and they  are in 
Georgia while I am in Arizona, but I thought by now the whole U.S. would be 
covered.

 

They may be able to stop att an Apple Store on Sunday, so perhaps they will 
have an anser for us.

 

I’m glad you have written proof from the Apple website that the 5 is supported. 
Maybe they won’t think I’m totally bonkers.

 

Thanks,

Jeffrey

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

 

Hi Jeffrey,

 

I am not sure why your clients don’t see the update, the  iPhone 5 is 
definitely still capable of running iOS 10, only the iPhone 4S and older 
devices are no longer compatible with iOS 10.

Can you let us know if they have  iOS 10 and don’t see the update to 10.3 or do 
you mean they are still on iOS 9 and don’t see an option to update to iOS 10? 
Make sure they indeed have an iPhone 5 because support for the 4S definitely 
stopped with iOS 9. They should probably make a backup, close all apps and then 
reboot the phone and try again, also make sure they are connected to Wifi.

Feliciano,  if you don’t believe me that the iPhone 5 can have iOS 10, here is 
a list of supported devices copied directly from Apple’s website:

 

iOS 10 is compatible with these devices.

 

iPhone

iPhone7/7 Plus

iPhone 6s/6s Plus

iPhone 6/6 Plus

iPhone SE

iPhone 5s

iPhone 5c

iPhone 5

 

iPad

iPad Pro 12.9-inch

iPad Pro 9.7-inch

iPad Air 2

iPad Air

iPad 4th generation

iPad mini 4

iPad mini 3

iPad mini 2

 

iPod

iPod touch 6th generation

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

 

Correct.



Regards, 

Feliciano 

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  My clients do not have the upgrade available to them in software updates. Is 
this because they are using iPhone 5?

   

  Thanks,

  Jeffrey

   

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Re: Sources for lightning cables?

[MamaPeach]

I buy the New Trent Apple certified lightning cables from Amazon and they 
last me a long long time. The part that plugs into the device is thicker 
made than regular lightning cables. The price is outstanding too.

https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless=UTF8=1491057587=1-1=new+trent+lightning+cable
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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devicesand Accounts

[matthew dyer]

Mark,

I am using mail for windows ten but I keep getting a message that my icloud 
settings are out of date.  Do I need to have a spasific password for the mail 
app as I could not get things work after playing with it.  HTH.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 3:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devicesand Accounts

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
(smile). 

Mark

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What's app question

[Marco Chan]

Can we forward voice message from What's app.

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Sources for lightning cables?

[Joe Quinn]

I've had an iPhone 5s since august 2014. Now unfortunately the lightning cable 
is fraying. I need a good source, preferably from amazon, for good lightning 
cables that won't gray too badly. Granted it's been two years, almost 3 by now, 
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Pocket-size Bluetooth Keyboard usable with Iphone

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi friends,

Could anyone please suggest me a pocket-size bluetooth keyboard that can be 
used with Iphone?  Thank you.

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Re: A great calendar app!

[Wendy Alling]

Thank you for this forward. That's great news. I was almost planning to delete 
that app from my phone. Glad they had an update.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> In case any low vision folk find it useful, VO Calendar app has just had an 
> update so it will no longer threaten to slow down your iphone! See below. 
> Harry
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>> VO Calendar by Devista B.V.
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Fwd: A great calendar app!

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In case any low vision folk find it useful, VO Calendar app has just had an 
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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Russ Kiehne]

Likewise, I use downcast on a daily bases andno problems.

-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

Hi,

I use Downcast, on a daily basis for more than an hour a day and I have 
observed absolutely no problems with the app.  I am extremely please with 
it, as of iOS 10.3.


Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brett

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

Hi,
Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users.


Hope this helps,
Brett.


Cheers Brett.


On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

Hi,
I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to 
the issue.


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On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its 
unstable when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app 
will just totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was 
wondering if others have this problem as well?


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Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

[Russ Kiehne]

>From ILounge:

Apple pulls over-the-air iOS 10.3 update for iPhone 5, 5c; iOS 10.3.2 seems to 
end support for them

Apple has pulled back the over-the-air update to iOS 10.3 for iPhone 5 and 5c 
devices without giving any reason, 
AppleInsider 
reports. The update was available for a few hours before mysteriously 
disappearing, despite there being no noted outcry of users who had tried and 
failed to install the update on the devices. The update can still be installed 
through the standard process using iTunes, and seems to function fine on an 
iPhone 5c. 
In a related development, 
The Apple Post 
has discovered that the beta version of iOS 10.3.2 appears to end support for 
devices with 32-bit processors — like the iPhone 5 and 5c. The beta only 
contains restore images for 64-bit devices, hinting at the possibility that 
32-bit devices are about to lose support. Apple 
announced back in 2014 
that new apps or app updates would have to support 64-bit processors, and 
recent speculation has swirled around iOS 11 ending support for 32-bit devices. 
A 
warning dialog 
discovered by developers working with the iOS 10.3 beta stated that apps that 
have not been updated to include 64-bit support “will not work with future 
versions of iOS.” Given the new findings in the iOS 10.3.2 beta, the change 
could come sooner than expected. If so, the 4th generation iPad would also be 
unsupported as it features a 32-bit processor. 
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/mobile/news/apple-pulls-over-the-air-ios-10.3-update-for-iphone-5-5c-ios-10.3.2-seems-t
 
From: Jeffrey Turner 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

Hi Sieghard,

 

I thought I had read that the 5 was supported, so was puzzled when it did not 
show up under software updates on my clients’ phones. We were going through the 
recommended process of backing up their phones, emptying the ap switcher,, 
turning off their phones for 30 seconds, and then updating, but both their 
phones insisted their software was up to date, even though they only have 
version 10.2.1. Oh, and yes, they were both plugged into live power and 
connected to WI/FI at the time.

 

I know sometimes Apple rolls things out geographically, and they  are in 
Georgia while I am in Arizona, but I thought by now the whole U.S. would be 
covered.

 

They may be able to stop att an Apple Store on Sunday, so perhaps they will 
have an anser for us.

 

I’m glad you have written proof from the Apple website that the 5 is supported. 
Maybe they won’t think I’m totally bonkers.

 

Thanks,

Jeffrey

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

 

Hi Jeffrey,

 

I am not sure why your clients don’t see the update, the  iPhone 5 is 
definitely still capable of running iOS 10, only the iPhone 4S and older 
devices are no longer compatible with iOS 10.

Can you let us know if they have  iOS 10 and don’t see the update to 10.3 or do 
you mean they are still on iOS 9 and don’t see an option to update to iOS 10? 
Make sure they indeed have an iPhone 5 because support for the 4S definitely 
stopped with iOS 9. They should probably make a backup, close all apps and then 
reboot the phone and try again, also make sure they are connected to Wifi.

Feliciano,  if you don’t believe me that the iPhone 5 can have iOS 10, here is 
a list of supported devices copied directly from Apple’s website:

 

iOS 10 is compatible with these devices.

 

iPhone

iPhone7/7 Plus

iPhone 6s/6s Plus

iPhone 6/6 Plus

iPhone SE

iPhone 5s

iPhone 5c

iPhone 5

 

iPad

iPad Pro 12.9-inch

iPad Pro 9.7-inch

iPad Air 2

iPad Air

iPad 4th generation

iPad mini 4

iPad mini 3

iPad mini 2

 

iPod

iPod touch 6th generation

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

 

Correct.



Regards, 

Feliciano 

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  My clients do not have the upgrade available to them in software updates. Is 
this because they are using iPhone 5?

   

  Thanks,

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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Anouk Radix]

Yeah I really hope the app will be updated. I like it a lot since you can see 
all the popular podcast in your local country as well as others so often find 
new podcasts that way. I have not seen that in overcast for example.
I dont like downcast on the mac but i really do on ios.
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 31 Mar 2017, at 23:19, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> The problem is Downcast has not had an update since prior to iOS 10 being 
> released. It is looking like the developer jumped ship on this app which 
> really bums me out as Downcast has been my favorite podcast app for years. 
> Guess I will not be updating to iOS 10.3 any time soon between this issue and 
> the 3D Touch issue.
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Wayne Merritt > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I haven't used Downcast a lot this week since updating to 10.3,
>> and have not experienced this behavior yet. I will have to catch up on
>> podcasts this weekend and see if it occurs. Is this when listening to
>> podcasts, refreshing, or doing something else in Downcast?
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 3/31/17, Feliciano Godoy > > wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the
>>> bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to
>>> the issue.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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>>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its
>>> unstable when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app
>>> will just totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was
>>> wondering if others have this problem as well?
>>> 
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Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[Arnold Schmidt]

I had not tried Downcast after updating until yesterday when I read about some 
having problems with it. I used it for about an hour last night, with no 
problems. I do hope the developer will update it soon. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Apr 1, 2017, at 2:43 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hi,

I use Downcast, on a daily basis for more than an hour a day and I have 
observed absolutely no problems with the app.  I am extremely please with it, 
as of iOS 10.3.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

Hi, 
Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett. 


Cheers Brett. 


On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
Hi,
I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
issue. 

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Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its unstable 
when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app will just 
totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was wondering if 
others have this problem as well?

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Re: One available update

[rajmund]

hi,
click on the notification from the lock screen, then choose set up 
later, when it prompts you.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 01/04/17 10:23 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hey Sieghard, you're incorrect about the update automatically enabling 2 factor 
authentication. When I did the update, it asked me if I wanted it on and I said 
no. However, if you don't enable it, you'll receive a nag notification every so 
often asking you to turn it on. I don't know of a way to completely stop those 
notifications so if someone does, they can tell you.

Shawn
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On Mar 31, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Both are easy, doing an encrypted backup in iTunes is still the most complete 
backup you can do.
Keep in mind that upgrading will automatically enable two-factor 
authentication. Make sure you know your password to login to iTunes/iCloud, 
maybe before the update go to http://appleid.apple.com and login with your 
Apple Id email and password to make sure. You will have to go there afterwards 
and disable two-factor authentication if you don't want it and it has to be 
done within I think 2 weeks or something like that.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Pryor
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: One available update

Thanks for that. Which is the easiest way to back up iTunes or iCloud Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 31 Mar 2017, at 20:02, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Hi when you update to 10.3 or later you will receive a notification about two 
factor authentication. There will then be some way to not enable this. Since I 
have two factor authentication enabled, I did not get such a notification on my 
5s running 10.2.1 at the time, now updated to 10.3. You may also be prompted to 
create a passcode at the end of the update process. Simply double tap passcode 
options and choose don't add passcode.



On 31 Mar 2017, at 16:35, Judy Pryor  wrote:

Hi at the risk of sounding pretty stupid but I need some answers. I have an 
iPhone SE running 9.3.5 with as far as I know no password or pin unless the 
password would be what I use on iCloud and iTunes.  I want to keep it simple as 
I have it now without the 2 factor security.  How would I go about this? I also 
use a Macbook with Sierra.

Regards

Judy

On 31 Mar 2017, at 00:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I would just backup the phone, close all apps from the app switcher and reboot 
the phone.
Then go to Settings > General > Software Update and install whatever shows up 
there. If it is 10.2.1 then just install it and after it's done go back and see if 
10.3 is available.
You could of course also connect your phone to the computer (if you have one with 
iTunes), open iTunes, go to the phone area and activate the "Check for Updates" 
button and see what you get. If you update from what is even a relatively old version of 
iOS 9 to iOS 10 doing it via iTunes would be my first choice.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: One available update

Hello all,
The other day I deleted the downloaded previous update from my manage storage 
area in settings. There's nothing that's been downloaded since, meaning 10.3 
hasn't been downloaded to that spot.
In settings, there is a button that says one available update ready. If my 
memory serves me correctly, if I hit on that button whatever upload that is 
there, will begin to download. Is that what will happen? I want to see what 
upload it is offering me. Previously even after all of you were saying that 
10.3 was out, I was still getting continual reminders to update to not the most 
recent version but the last one 10.2.1 or something like that. I still am on 
9.3.2.

Deidre

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Re: One available update

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Sieghard, you're incorrect about the update automatically enabling 2 factor 
authentication. When I did the update, it asked me if I wanted it on and I said 
no. However, if you don't enable it, you'll receive a nag notification every so 
often asking you to turn it on. I don't know of a way to completely stop those 
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Shawn
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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Both are easy, doing an encrypted backup in iTunes is still the most complete 
> backup you can do.
> Keep in mind that upgrading will automatically enable two-factor 
> authentication. Make sure you know your password to login to iTunes/iCloud, 
> maybe before the update go to http://appleid.apple.com and login with your 
> Apple Id email and password to make sure. You will have to go there 
> afterwards and disable two-factor authentication if you don't want it and it 
> has to be done within I think 2 weeks or something like that.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Judy Pryor
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: One available update
> 
> Thanks for that. Which is the easiest way to back up iTunes or iCloud Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 31 Mar 2017, at 20:02, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi when you update to 10.3 or later you will receive a notification about 
>> two factor authentication. There will then be some way to not enable this. 
>> Since I have two factor authentication enabled, I did not get such a 
>> notification on my 5s running 10.2.1 at the time, now updated to 10.3. You 
>> may also be prompted to create a passcode at the end of the update process. 
>> Simply double tap passcode options and choose don't add passcode.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31 Mar 2017, at 16:35, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi at the risk of sounding pretty stupid but I need some answers. I have an 
>>> iPhone SE running 9.3.5 with as far as I know no password or pin unless the 
>>> password would be what I use on iCloud and iTunes.  I want to keep it 
>>> simple as I have it now without the 2 factor security.  How would I go 
>>> about this? I also use a Macbook with Sierra.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Judy
 On 31 Mar 2017, at 00:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 I would just backup the phone, close all apps from the app switcher and 
 reboot the phone.
 Then go to Settings > General > Software Update and install whatever shows 
 up there. If it is 10.2.1 then just install it and after it's done go back 
 and see if 10.3 is available.
 You could of course also connect your phone to the computer (if you have 
 one with iTunes), open iTunes, go to the phone area and activate the 
 "Check for Updates" button and see what you get. If you update from what 
 is even a relatively old version of iOS 9 to iOS 10 doing it via iTunes 
 would be my first choice.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: One available update
 
 Hello all,
 The other day I deleted the downloaded previous update from my manage 
 storage area in settings. There's nothing that's been downloaded since, 
 meaning 10.3 hasn't been downloaded to that spot. 
 In settings, there is a button that says one available update ready. If my 
 memory serves me correctly, if I hit on that button whatever upload that 
 is there, will begin to download. Is that what will happen? I want to see 
 what upload it is offering me. Previously even after all of you were 
 saying that 10.3 was out, I was still getting continual reminders to 
 update to not the most recent version but the last one 10.2.1 or something 
 like that. I still am on 9.3.2.
 
 Deidre
 
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RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Shai,

Thanks for the tip, I just Googled "iOS 10.3. on the iPhone 5" and found a 
number of references indicating that the iPhone 5/5C may be left in the cold 
soon despite the fact that Apple states in general that iOS 10 is compatible 
with the iPhone 5. It is of course the last phone with a 32 bit processor that 
is supported since starting with the 5S the processors were all 64 Bit. I hen 
found the following article from AppleInsider.com which states that the 10.3 
over the air update briefly showed up on the iPhone 5 on March 29 when it was 
released, but Apple quickly pulled it without specifying a reason. This would 
of course explain why iPhone 5 users who didn't upgrade immediately don't see 
the update now. The article does, however, also state that you can still update 
your iPhone 5 and I assume 5C to iOS 10.3 via iTunes, here is the link:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/03/29/over-the-air-ios-103-update-for-iphone-5-5c-pulled-by-apple-for-reasons-unknown

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

Hello  Jeffrey,
I just tried to check for updates here on my iPhone5 and I am receiving the 
same behavior as you describe for your clients that it shows my software being 
up to date despite it being 10.2.1. I have tried restarting the phone but to no 
avail. I thought I had seen something which stated that 10.3 would not be 
supported on the iPhone5 being that Apple switched to the APFS file system in 
this release and that there may be some features which are not compatible.


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> My clients do not have the upgrade available to them in software updates.
> Is
> this because they are using iPhone 5?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
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> Jeffrey
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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, Mark, now that nobody else can get in, can you still get out?
For those who have only one device keep in mind you can also specify the iPhone 
of a close and trusted friend or family member as a trusted device.
How does this work, Mark, if you only have one device and somebody steels it 
and you need to log in to iCloud let's say from not your own trusted computer 
and you need to provide a code. If the code is sent to your phone how does this 
help if a thief has your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices 
and Accounts

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple accounts 
on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows 8, Mac, 
iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts from legacy Windows 
based clients but, after updating all components, including the latest versions 
of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of 
old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all 
of my products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I 
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn 
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be 
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code you 
will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best thing is 
that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will not be 
prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on all 
of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs as 
beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate an 
application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older 
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the 
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to 
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize yourself 
with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into that 
site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall 
(smile). 

Mark

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Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
(smile). 

Mark

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Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

[Shai]

Hello  Jeffrey,
I just tried to check for updates here on my iPhone5 and I am
receiving the same behavior as you describe for your clients that it
shows my software being up to date despite it being 10.2.1. I have
tried restarting the phone but to no avail. I thought I had seen
something which stated that 10.3 would not be supported on the iPhone5
being that Apple switched to the APFS file system in this release and
that there may be some features which are not compatible.


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> Is
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RE: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

[M. Taylor]

Hi,

I use Downcast, on a daily basis for more than an hour a day and I have 
observed absolutely no problems with the app.  I am extremely please with it, 
as of iOS 10.3.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downcast being unstable after updating to ios 10.3

Hi, 
Unfortunately, this app hasn't been updated in a while. ICatcher is still 
actively being updated and is fully accessible. Plus the author is aware of 
voiceOver users. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett. 


Cheers Brett. 


On 1 Apr 2017, at 6:34 am, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
Hi,
I am experiencing the same issues after updating to iOS 10.3. I reported the 
bucket to the developer as well as sent a tweet out to them in regards to the 
issue. 

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On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
Hi, Downcast has become fairly unstable after updating ios to 10.3 its unstable 
when refreshing podcast and when trying to play episodes the app will just 
totally crash and i will be returned to the home screen. I was wondering if 
others have this problem as well?

Greetings, Anouk,

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RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

[Jeffrey Turner]

Hi Sieghard,

 

I thought I had read that the 5 was supported, so was puzzled when it did not 
show up under software updates on my clients’ phones. We were going through the 
recommended process of backing up their phones, emptying the ap switcher,, 
turning off their phones for 30 seconds, and then updating, but both their 
phones insisted their software was up to date, even though they only have 
version 10.2.1. Oh, and yes, they were both plugged into live power and 
connected to WI/FI at the time.

 

I know sometimes Apple rolls things out geographically, and they  are in 
Georgia while I am in Arizona, but I thought by now the whole U.S. would be 
covered.

 

They may be able to stop att an Apple Store on Sunday, so perhaps they will 
have an anser for us.

 

I’m glad you have written proof from the Apple website that the 5 is supported. 
Maybe they won’t think I’m totally bonkers.

 

Thanks,

Jeffrey

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

 

Hi Jeffrey,

 

I am not sure why your clients don’t see the update, the  iPhone 5 is 
definitely still capable of running iOS 10, only the iPhone 4S and older 
devices are no longer compatible with iOS 10.

Can you let us know if they have  iOS 10 and don’t see the update to 10.3 or do 
you mean they are still on iOS 9 and don’t see an option to update to iOS 10? 
Make sure they indeed have an iPhone 5 because support for the 4S definitely 
stopped with iOS 9. They should probably make a backup, close all apps and then 
reboot the phone and try again, also make sure they are connected to Wifi.

Feliciano,  if you don’t believe me that the iPhone 5 can have iOS 10, here is 
a list of supported devices copied directly from Apple’s website:

 

iOS 10 is compatible with these devices.

 

iPhone

iPhone7/7 Plus

iPhone 6s/6s Plus

iPhone 6/6 Plus

iPhone SE

iPhone 5s

iPhone 5c

iPhone 5

 

iPad

iPad Pro 12.9-inch

iPad Pro 9.7-inch

iPad Air 2

iPad Air

iPad 4th generation

iPad mini 4

iPad mini 3

iPad mini 2

 

iPod

iPod touch 6th generation

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Is IOS 10.3 available for iPhone 5?

 

Correct.



Regards, 

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My clients do not have the upgrade available to them in software updates. Is 
this because they are using iPhone 5?

 

Thanks,

Jeffrey

 

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