RE: Office Lens, New App

[Alan Lemly]

Tom,

 

To test Office Lens with its reproduction of a scanned form, I went to the IRS 
website and pulled up a 1040EZ tax form and filled in a few of the blanks, 
printed it, and then scanned it with Office Lens in document mode. I uploaded 
it to my Microsoft Word app and saved it to Dropbox. A 1040EZ form is fairly 
involved with respect to formatting because it contains a lot of lines and 
blanks in a tabular format. I was quite impressed with the formatting of the 
scanned form by Office Lens and I would think it could be turned into a form 
that could be filled in by others using the tools available within Microsoft 
Word.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Office Lens, New App

 

Hi,

I installed Office Lens on my phone quite some time ago but never really paid 
much attention to it until I read the information about it in Tidbits. At first 
I wasn't thrilled about having to set up a Microsoft account as it was kind of 
a pain in the neck to do, but once that was done everything went smoothly. I 
have several students who want a scanning app but can't afford KNFB Reader's 
hefty price tag, so I showed Office Lens to them and they were favorably 
impressed. At first I scanned a single-page document and exported it into 
Immersive Reader and let Immersive Reader play it back. Frankly, the defaukt 
voice in Immersive Reader sounded a little garbled to my ears and I found that 
reading the document with VoiceOver while in Immersive Reader was cleaner and 
crisper. Though I didn't test this, I would imagine that I'd be able to use the 
VO rotor to navigate by character, word, line and so on and I doubt that 
Immersive Reader's playback would let me do that.

Yesterday afternoon I did a second demo for a couple of students and that time 
I scanned a multiple-page document. To do that, you do the first page, then 
after the image is processed, you tap the Camera button, take your next shot, 
let Office Lens process the second picture, then repeat that procedure until 
all your pages have been scanned and processed. Tap Save All, then all of your 
document images are presumably merged and available as a single document which 
can be exported to whatever choices are available. Again, I dumped them into 
Immersive Reader and let VO read. The results were clean as a whistle and 
reading was seamless.  Later on I talked with one of my coworkers who also uses 
Office Lens and he agrees with me that it's a very good app and you sure can't 
beat the price. Granted it's not as simple to use as KNFB Reader  and it's 
certainly easier to use than Prizmo, so for me, it's a keeper. 

 

I have a question for the person who mentioned that Office Lens preserves or at 
least approximates the document formatting. In the past, I've found that 
PC-based  packages like Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 will  "mangle" forms of 
various sorts, absolutely destroying their formatting  and making them unusable 
for anything except determining what information is asked for in the form. Is 
it possible to scan something like a job application, then export it into Word 
so that a blind person could then fill it out independently on a computer, 
print it out and submit it? It would be fabulous if such a scenario is possible.

 

Tom

 



Sent from my iPhone 7


On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Marie  wrote:

Glad to hear you are having the same experience I have had. The price is 
unbeatable and every software or OS in the world collects information about how 
we use our devices so why the big to-do about Microsoft? It is a darn sight 
better than paying $99 for KNFB Reader in my opinion.

Marie

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App

 

Marie,

 

I have to agree with you. I had great success with Office Lens scanning a 
two-page homeowners association minutes document. Granted, the document 
contained print with a larger font but I liked the app's ability to scan it, 
convert every letter correctly, format it with a similar appearance as the 
original, and save it as a Word docx file to Dropbox. I did put the camera mode 
on document and those using the app should be aware you can pick from among 
business card, photo, document, and white board modes by a single finger swipe 
up and down on the camera mode button. Also, the app was good about indicating 
left and right needed movement when positioning my camera before taking the 
picture. I already have a Microsoft account set up in my iPhone 7 so I wasn't 
presented with anything having to do with that when using the app. And I was 
presented with a screen allowing me to save it from Word where I opened it 
directly to the desired folder in Dropbox. It was very slick and well done even 
if not as quick as KNFB Reader. You

Re: Enquiry about Apple Magic Keyboard

[Scott Dollar]

Hi Christopher,

The Apple Magic keyboard is still around at Apple store.  The matic keyboard 
does have a weitch.  There is a new model just released recently.  If you 
want the old model of the Apple Magic keyboard which you can find it at 
Amazon.com website.  The new model has changed just a little bit different.


Hope this help you.

Cheers,

Scott Dollar


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From: christopher hallsworth

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:36 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Enquiry about Apple Magic Keyboard

Evening everyone.

I am writing in with an enquiry on the Apple magic keyboard which I am 
looking into purchasing as early as next week.


Is it true that when pairing to your iOS device or Apple TV, there is no 
pairing code to enter? In other words, it just pairs automatically? This is 
what iMore claims anyway after doing a google search for "Magic Keyboard 
iOS" without quotes. The manual obtained from the Apple support website only 
documents how to use it with a mac, and that sounds cool as well, but my 
main goal is to use it with my iOS devices.


Any responses greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.




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RE: Accessible web surveys

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Not necessarily.
If the survey wasn't designed well to begin with, then no, you should not have 
been able to fill it out.

If you can't do it on the iPhone, you could try a computer, but my guess is 
that it wouldn't work much better.

HTH,
Richard


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Deidre Muccio
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible web surveys

Thank you Richard. The question I also want to ask and I hope this is not too 
obvious is should I have been able to do that survey using my iPhone and 
voiceover menus just as easily as I could've done it may be using IE on a 
desktop computer with ?

Deidre


> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If the Survey Monkey is setup right, it can be accessible.
> Survey Gizmo is also very good, but the person designing the survey needs to 
> pay attention to the labels, etc.
> I'm not a programmer, but our office uses Survey Gizmo.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Do any of you sophisticated programmers or techs know of a Web survey format 
>> that is fully accessible? I try to take a local library survey that was done 
>> on monkey and though the checkboxes could be toggled with a single finger 
>> double tap once the rotor was turn to form fields, the edit fields would not 
>> come alive and I kept getting flip from one question to another. Then there 
>> were headings that seem to be double headings which made no sense at all 
>> whatsoever. Just cumbersome and wordy. The library reference people that 
>> deal with accessibility issues asked if I knew of a Web survey format that 
>> was fully accessible that they could look into. Does anyone have a 
>> recommendation?
>> 
>> Deidre
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RE: refreshabraille 18

[doug oliver]

I also do not hear the little beep like sound on the IPhone when it’s pared.

 

 

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doug oliver
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: refreshabraille 18

 

Hey,

Has anyone noticed when you pair the refreshabraille 18 on the IPhone it won’t 
show braille on the display?

I’m using the latest iOS update and it didn’t do this before I updated.

Please advise,

Doug

 

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refreshabraille 18

[doug oliver]

Hey,

Has anyone noticed when you pair the refreshabraille 18 on the IPhone it
won't show braille on the display?

I'm using the latest iOS update and it didn't do this before I updated.

Please advise,

Doug

 

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Re: Office Lens, New App

[Dan]

Hello,
That's rather interesting. All i installed is Office Lens. I scanned something, 
and had the Imerssive reader read it back to me. And it did a really good job 
using Alex my default voice, or at least it sure sounded like  my default voice 
in iOS 10.3.1.
 

Dan

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Imerssive reader is actually part of the One Note application. In order to be 
> able to see the option within office lens you need to install One Note.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>  
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:25 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Tom, what is Immersive Reader? Is it similar to Voice Dream Reader? I tried 
>> searching for it in the app store, but couldn't find any app by that name.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari 
>> 
>>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I installed Office Lens on my phone quite some time ago but never really 
>>> paid much attention to it until I read the information about it in Tidbits. 
>>> At first I wasn't thrilled about having to set up a Microsoft account as it 
>>> was kind of a pain in the neck to do, but once that was done everything 
>>> went smoothly. I have several students who want a scanning app but can't 
>>> afford KNFB Reader's hefty price tag, so I showed Office Lens to them and 
>>> they were favorably impressed. At first I scanned a single-page document 
>>> and exported it into Immersive Reader and let Immersive Reader play it 
>>> back. Frankly, the defaukt voice in Immersive Reader sounded a little 
>>> garbled to my ears and I found that reading the document with VoiceOver 
>>> while in Immersive Reader was cleaner and crisper. Though I didn't test 
>>> this, I would imagine that I'd be able to use the VO rotor to navigate by 
>>> character, word, line and so on and I doubt that Immersive Reader's 
>>> playback would let me do that.
>>> Yesterday afternoon I did a second demo for a couple of students and that 
>>> time I scanned a multiple-page document. To do that, you do the first page, 
>>> then after the image is processed, you tap the Camera button, take your 
>>> next shot, let Office Lens process the second picture, then repeat that 
>>> procedure until all your pages have been scanned and processed. Tap Save 
>>> All, then all of your document images are presumably merged and available 
>>> as a single document which can be exported to whatever choices are 
>>> available. Again, I dumped them into Immersive Reader and let VO read. The 
>>> results were clean as a whistle and reading was seamless.  Later on I 
>>> talked with one of my coworkers who also uses Office Lens and he agrees 
>>> with me that it's a very good app and you sure can't beat the price. 
>>> Granted it's not as simple to use as KNFB Reader  and it's certainly easier 
>>> to use than Prizmo, so for me, it's a keeper. 
>>> 
>>> I have a question for the person who mentioned that Office Lens preserves 
>>> or at least approximates the document formatting. In the past, I've found 
>>> that PC-based  packages like Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 will  "mangle" 
>>> forms of various sorts, absolutely destroying their formatting  and making 
>>> them unusable for anything except determining what information is asked for 
>>> in the form. Is it possible to scan something like a job application, then 
>>> export it into Word so that a blind person could then fill it out 
>>> independently on a computer, print it out and submit it? It would be 
>>> fabulous if such a scenario is possible.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>> 
 On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Marie  wrote:
 
 Glad to hear you are having the same experience I have had. The price is 
 unbeatable and every software or OS in the world collects information 
 about how we use our devices so why the big to-do about Microsoft? It is a 
 darn sight better than paying $99 for KNFB Reader in my opinion.
 Marie
  
  
 From: Alan Lemly
 Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:51 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
  
 Marie,
  
 I have to agree with you. I had great success with Office Lens scanning a 
 two-page homeowners association minutes document. Granted, the document 
 contained print with a larger font but I liked the app's ability to scan 
 it, convert every letter correctly, format it with a similar appearance as 
 the original, and save it as a Word docx file to Dropbox. I did put the 
 camera mode on document and those using the app should be aware you can 
 pick from among business card, photo, document, and white board modes by a 
 single finger swipe up and down on the camera mode button. Also, the app 
 was good about indicating left and right needed movement when positioning 
 my camera before taking the picture. I already have a Microsoft account 
 set up in my iPhone 7 so I wasn't presented with a

Re: Office Lens, New App

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
Imerssive reader is actually part of the One Note application. In order to be 
able to see the option within office lens you need to install One Note.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
 
> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:25 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Tom, what is Immersive Reader? Is it similar to Voice Dream Reader? I tried 
> searching for it in the app store, but couldn't find any app by that name.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari 
> 
> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Tom Lange  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I installed Office Lens on my phone quite some time ago but never really 
>> paid much attention to it until I read the information about it in Tidbits. 
>> At first I wasn't thrilled about having to set up a Microsoft account as it 
>> was kind of a pain in the neck to do, but once that was done everything went 
>> smoothly. I have several students who want a scanning app but can't afford 
>> KNFB Reader's hefty price tag, so I showed Office Lens to them and they were 
>> favorably impressed. At first I scanned a single-page document and exported 
>> it into Immersive Reader and let Immersive Reader play it back. Frankly, the 
>> defaukt voice in Immersive Reader sounded a little garbled to my ears and I 
>> found that reading the document with VoiceOver while in Immersive Reader was 
>> cleaner and crisper. Though I didn't test this, I would imagine that I'd be 
>> able to use the VO rotor to navigate by character, word, line and so on and 
>> I doubt that Immersive Reader's playback would let me do that.
>> Yesterday afternoon I did a second demo for a couple of students and that 
>> time I scanned a multiple-page document. To do that, you do the first page, 
>> then after the image is processed, you tap the Camera button, take your next 
>> shot, let Office Lens process the second picture, then repeat that procedure 
>> until all your pages have been scanned and processed. Tap Save All, then all 
>> of your document images are presumably merged and available as a single 
>> document which can be exported to whatever choices are available. Again, I 
>> dumped them into Immersive Reader and let VO read. The results were clean as 
>> a whistle and reading was seamless.  Later on I talked with one of my 
>> coworkers who also uses Office Lens and he agrees with me that it's a very 
>> good app and you sure can't beat the price. Granted it's not as simple to 
>> use as KNFB Reader  and it's certainly easier to use than Prizmo, so for me, 
>> it's a keeper. 
>> 
>> I have a question for the person who mentioned that Office Lens preserves or 
>> at least approximates the document formatting. In the past, I've found that 
>> PC-based  packages like Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 will  "mangle" forms of 
>> various sorts, absolutely destroying their formatting  and making them 
>> unusable for anything except determining what information is asked for in 
>> the form. Is it possible to scan something like a job application, then 
>> export it into Word so that a blind person could then fill it out 
>> independently on a computer, print it out and submit it? It would be 
>> fabulous if such a scenario is possible.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Marie > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Glad to hear you are having the same experience I have had. The price is 
>>> unbeatable and every software or OS in the world collects information about 
>>> how we use our devices so why the big to-do about Microsoft? It is a darn 
>>> sight better than paying $99 for KNFB Reader in my opinion.
>>> Marie
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Alan Lemly <>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:51 PM
>>> To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
>>>  
>>> Marie,
>>>  
>>> I have to agree with you. I had great success with Office Lens scanning a 
>>> two-page homeowners association minutes document. Granted, the document 
>>> contained print with a larger font but I liked the app's ability to scan 
>>> it, convert every letter correctly, format it with a similar appearance as 
>>> the original, and save it as a Word docx file to Dropbox. I did put the 
>>> camera mode on document and those using the app should be aware you can 
>>> pick from among business card, photo, document, and white board modes by a 
>>> single finger swipe up and down on the camera mode button. Also, the app 
>>> was good about indicating left and right needed movement when positioning 
>>> my camera before taking the picture. I already have a Microsoft account set 
>>> up in my iPhone 7 so I wasn't presented with anything having to do with 
>>> that when using the app. And I was presented with a screen allowing me to 
>>> save it from Word where I opened it directly to the desired folder in 
>>> Dropbox. It was very slick and well done even if not as quick as KNFB 
>>> Reader. You absolutely can't beat the free price and if you want to 

Re: Accessible web surveys

[Devin Prater]

Google Forms is also accessible from what I've seen.
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Richard Turner  writes:

> If the Survey Monkey is setup right, it can be accessible.
> Survey Gizmo is also very good, but the person designing the survey
> needs to pay attention to the labels, etc.
> I'm not a programmer, but our office uses Survey Gizmo.
> Richard
>
>
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Do any of you sophisticated programmers or techs know of a Web
>> survey format that is fully accessible? I try to take a local
>> library survey that was done on monkey and though the checkboxes
>> could be toggled with a single finger double tap once the rotor was
>> turn to form fields, the edit fields would not come alive and I kept
>> getting flip from one question to another. Then there were headings
>> that seem to be double headings which made no sense at all
>> whatsoever. Just cumbersome and wordy. The library reference people
>> that deal with accessibility issues asked if I knew of a Web survey
>> format that was fully accessible that they could look into. Does
>> anyone have a recommendation?
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
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Re: Accessible web surveys

[Deidre Muccio]

Thank you Richard. The question I also want to ask and I hope this is not too 
obvious is should I have been able to do that survey using my iPhone and 
voiceover menus just as easily as I could've done it may be using IE on a 
desktop computer with ?

Deidre


> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> 
> If the Survey Monkey is setup right, it can be accessible.
> Survey Gizmo is also very good, but the person designing the survey needs to 
> pay attention to the labels, etc.
> I'm not a programmer, but our office uses Survey Gizmo.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Do any of you sophisticated programmers or techs know of a Web survey format 
>> that is fully accessible? I try to take a local library survey that was done 
>> on monkey and though the checkboxes could be toggled with a single finger 
>> double tap once the rotor was turn to form fields, the edit fields would not 
>> come alive and I kept getting flip from one question to another. Then there 
>> were headings that seem to be double headings which made no sense at all 
>> whatsoever. Just cumbersome and wordy. The library reference people that 
>> deal with accessibility issues asked if I knew of a Web survey format that 
>> was fully accessible that they could look into. Does anyone have a 
>> recommendation?
>> 
>> Deidre
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Re: Accessible web surveys

[Richard Turner]

If the Survey Monkey is setup right, it can be accessible.
Survey Gizmo is also very good, but the person designing the survey needs to 
pay attention to the labels, etc.
I'm not a programmer, but our office uses Survey Gizmo.
Richard


> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
> 
> Do any of you sophisticated programmers or techs know of a Web survey format 
> that is fully accessible? I try to take a local library survey that was done 
> on monkey and though the checkboxes could be toggled with a single finger 
> double tap once the rotor was turn to form fields, the edit fields would not 
> come alive and I kept getting flip from one question to another. Then there 
> were headings that seem to be double headings which made no sense at all 
> whatsoever. Just cumbersome and wordy. The library reference people that deal 
> with accessibility issues asked if I knew of a Web survey format that was 
> fully accessible that they could look into. Does anyone have a recommendation?
> 
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Re: Office Lens, New App

[englishrider91]

Tom, what is Immersive Reader? Is it similar to Voice Dream Reader? I tried 
searching for it in the app store, but couldn't find any app by that name.


Thanks,
Ari 

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I installed Office Lens on my phone quite some time ago but never really paid 
> much attention to it until I read the information about it in Tidbits. At 
> first I wasn't thrilled about having to set up a Microsoft account as it was 
> kind of a pain in the neck to do, but once that was done everything went 
> smoothly. I have several students who want a scanning app but can't afford 
> KNFB Reader's hefty price tag, so I showed Office Lens to them and they were 
> favorably impressed. At first I scanned a single-page document and exported 
> it into Immersive Reader and let Immersive Reader play it back. Frankly, the 
> defaukt voice in Immersive Reader sounded a little garbled to my ears and I 
> found that reading the document with VoiceOver while in Immersive Reader was 
> cleaner and crisper. Though I didn't test this, I would imagine that I'd be 
> able to use the VO rotor to navigate by character, word, line and so on and I 
> doubt that Immersive Reader's playback would let me do that.
> Yesterday afternoon I did a second demo for a couple of students and that 
> time I scanned a multiple-page document. To do that, you do the first page, 
> then after the image is processed, you tap the Camera button, take your next 
> shot, let Office Lens process the second picture, then repeat that procedure 
> until all your pages have been scanned and processed. Tap Save All, then all 
> of your document images are presumably merged and available as a single 
> document which can be exported to whatever choices are available. Again, I 
> dumped them into Immersive Reader and let VO read. The results were clean as 
> a whistle and reading was seamless.  Later on I talked with one of my 
> coworkers who also uses Office Lens and he agrees with me that it's a very 
> good app and you sure can't beat the price. Granted it's not as simple to use 
> as KNFB Reader  and it's certainly easier to use than Prizmo, so for me, it's 
> a keeper. 
> 
> I have a question for the person who mentioned that Office Lens preserves or 
> at least approximates the document formatting. In the past, I've found that 
> PC-based  packages like Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 will  "mangle" forms of 
> various sorts, absolutely destroying their formatting  and making them 
> unusable for anything except determining what information is asked for in the 
> form. Is it possible to scan something like a job application, then export it 
> into Word so that a blind person could then fill it out independently on a 
> computer, print it out and submit it? It would be fabulous if such a scenario 
> is possible.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> Glad to hear you are having the same experience I have had. The price is 
>> unbeatable and every software or OS in the world collects information about 
>> how we use our devices so why the big to-do about Microsoft? It is a darn 
>> sight better than paying $99 for KNFB Reader in my opinion.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
>>  
>> Marie,
>>  
>> I have to agree with you. I had great success with Office Lens scanning a 
>> two-page homeowners association minutes document. Granted, the document 
>> contained print with a larger font but I liked the app's ability to scan it, 
>> convert every letter correctly, format it with a similar appearance as the 
>> original, and save it as a Word docx file to Dropbox. I did put the camera 
>> mode on document and those using the app should be aware you can pick from 
>> among business card, photo, document, and white board modes by a single 
>> finger swipe up and down on the camera mode  button. Also, the app was good 
>> about indicating left and right needed movement when positioning my camera 
>> before taking the picture. I already have a Microsoft account set up in my 
>> iPhone 7 so I wasn't presented with anything having to do with that when 
>> using the app. And I was presented with a screen allowing me to save it from 
>> Word where I opened it directly to the desired folder in Dropbox. It was 
>> very slick and well done even if not as quick as KNFB Reader. You absolutely 
>> can't beat the free price and if you want to capture a document on your 
>> phone that looks like the original, this is the app for that. And I'm not 
>> worried about Microsoft getting access to my business any more than those 
>> who are Office 365 users should be.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marie
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Re: Curious about iPhones, and Android phones, and if they can do certain things together

[Joe Paton]

Hi,
could you use watsapp or skype, or facebook messentger.
You would all need these clients installed.



On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 15:11:43 +
Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,


Ok first of all, I apologize for the kind of odd, and long subject line 
there. But I had know idea as to how else to put that.


I was wondering, can an Android phone, and an iPhone work together with 
similar Apps?

I know that the Androids have some games that the iPhones have, and you 
can play people no matter the type of phone.

For instance, Dice World.


But say you wanted to share your location, or have something such as 
find your friends?

Is this even possible?


I would like to be able to have something like this, between a friend of 
mine who obviously has an android phone, and myself. I doubt it's 
possible. But I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.

I realize that if something like this does exist, we would both have to 
download the App.

And if it does exist, how accessible might it be for me?


Thank you,


Terri

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Accessible web surveys

[Deidre Muccio]

Do any of you sophisticated programmers or techs know of a Web survey format 
that is fully accessible? I try to take a local library survey that was done on 
monkey and though the checkboxes could be toggled with a single finger double 
tap once the rotor was turn to form fields, the edit fields would not come 
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Just cumbersome and wordy. The library reference people that deal with 
accessibility issues asked if I knew of a Web survey format that was fully 
accessible that they could look into. Does anyone have a recommendation?

Deidre

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Re: The At Bat App

[Patti Johnson]

He does have a  subscription.  I have not talked to him today to find
out if he's tried again.
Thank you,
Patti
On 4/21/17, Matthew Dyer  wrote:
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>
> Does your friend have a subscribsion?  If so, he will want to make sure he
> is signed in.  If so, select the feed and it should start playing if this
> doesn'tt happen, he should try contacting them.  I have the app on my
> android devces, but every time my tell me the time app goes off the feed
> stops and I have to restart the feed.  It is very strange.
>
> Matthew
>
>
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> Hello.  I am asking this for a friend.  I hope I get this right because I
> know nothing a bout this app, but he says he cannot hear the games when he
> goes into his day game audio on the app.
> He says he doesn't always have to select a feed, whatever that means, but I
> guess even if he does, he still can't hear the audio.
> Is there a problem with the app or a reason he can't use it?  Thanks for any
> help, if you can  tell me what  to tell him about this.
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RE: The At Bat App

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Hi Patty,

Does your friend have a subscribsion?  If so, he will want to make sure he is 
signed in.  If so, select the feed and it should start playing if this doesn'tt 
happen, he should try contacting them.  I have the app on my android devces, 
but every time my tell me the time app goes off the feed stops and I have to 
restart the feed.  It is very strange.

Matthew



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The At Bat App

Hello.  I am asking this for a friend.  I hope I get this right because I know 
nothing a bout this app, but he says he cannot hear the games when he goes into 
his day game audio on the app.
He says he doesn't always have to select a feed, whatever that means, but I 
guess even if he does, he still can't hear the audio.
Is there a problem with the app or a reason he can't use it?  Thanks for any 
help, if you can  tell me what  to tell him about this.
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KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

[Richard Turner]

KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
- New app icon and splash screen added;
- Czech user interface language added;
- Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
- The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" button 
will execute field of view;
- Fixes some minor issues with voice-over accessibility.

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RE: adding contacts - is this a vo bug?

[Richard Turner]

I have not had any of these issues.
I just added a contact on my iPhone 6S.  I double tapped on Add Phone, changed 
the label to Mobile,flicked right and I was in the text field to enter the 
number.
Then, I went up and entered the first and last name.
Also iOS 10.3.1.

I’ve done it by entering the name first, then going to Add phone, etc.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding contacts - is this a vo bug?

I wish I had an answer for you. But we are having problems with Contacts as 
well. I think it is a voiceover issue because everything seems to work OK 
without voiceover. Not exactly the same problem you're having but along the 
same lines. In putting things into edit field does not seem to work. When you 
go back out of the program and then back into it, then things seem to work OK. 
It's sort of reminds me of a screen refreshing issue. But that's not the same 
issues you're having. Very interesting to know though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Davy Cuppens 
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Hi folks

Maybe I discovered a small vo bug which is nothing more than annoying.
Go into contacts and add a new one. Set name and first name and then when you 
want to put in the phone number, push the label button phone to, for example 
change the label to mobile number. If you do that and double tab, you land in 
the field company in which you culd type the name of a company for which the 
contact is possibly working. This is indeed not correct.
If you go on flicking right you come into the right field to type the mobile 
phone number.
I use ios10.3.1 on an iphone 5s 64 gb.
Regards
Davy
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Re: adding contacts - is this a vo bug?

[Kay Malmquist]

I wish I had an answer for you. But we are having problems with Contacts as 
well. I think it is a voiceover issue because everything seems to work OK 
without voiceover. Not exactly the same problem you're having but along the 
same lines. In putting things into edit field does not seem to work. When you 
go back out of the program and then back into it, then things seem to work OK. 
It's sort of reminds me of a screen refreshing issue. But that's not the same 
issues you're having. Very interesting to know though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

Hi folks
 
Maybe I discovered a small vo bug which is nothing more than annoying.
Go into contacts and add a new one. Set name and first name and then when you 
want to put in the phone number, push the label button phone to, for example 
change the label to mobile number. If you do that and double tab, you land in 
the field company in which you culd type the name of a company for which the 
contact is possibly working. This is indeed not correct.
If you go on flicking right you come into the right field to type the mobile 
phone number.
I use ios10.3.1 on an iphone 5s 64 gb.
Regards
Davy
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Roomba Andy iPhone

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
Well, it's time to upgrade the roomba. I know there has been discussion on this 
subject, but which is the best one to get and had the most usable app? Any help 
on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.

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adding contacts - is this a vo bug?

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

Maybe I discovered a small vo bug which is nothing more than annoying.
Go into contacts and add a new one. Set name and first name and then when you 
want to put in the phone number, push the label button phone to, for example 
change the label to mobile number. If you do that and double tab, you land in 
the field company in which you culd type the name of a company for which the 
contact is possibly working. This is indeed not correct.
If you go on flicking right you come into the right field to type the mobile 
phone number.
I use ios10.3.1 on an iphone 5s 64 gb.
Regards
Davy 

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Re: Office Lens, New App

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I installed Office Lens on my phone quite some time ago but never really paid 
much attention to it until I read the information about it in Tidbits. At first 
I wasn't thrilled about having to set up a Microsoft account as it was kind of 
a pain in the neck to do, but once that was done everything went smoothly. I 
have several students who want a scanning app but can't afford KNFB Reader's 
hefty price tag, so I showed Office Lens to them and they were favorably 
impressed. At first I scanned a single-page document and exported it into 
Immersive Reader and let Immersive Reader play it back. Frankly, the defaukt 
voice in Immersive Reader sounded a little garbled to my ears and I found that 
reading the document with VoiceOver while in Immersive Reader was cleaner and 
crisper. Though I didn't test this, I would imagine that I'd be able to use the 
VO rotor to navigate by character, word, line and so on and I doubt that 
Immersive Reader's playback would let me do that.
Yesterday afternoon I did a second demo for a couple of students and that time 
I scanned a multiple-page document. To do that, you do the first page, then 
after the image is processed, you tap the Camera button, take your next shot, 
let Office Lens process the second picture, then repeat that procedure until 
all your pages have been scanned and processed. Tap Save All, then all of your 
document images are presumably merged and available as a single document which 
can be exported to whatever choices are available. Again, I dumped them into 
Immersive Reader and let VO read. The results were clean as a whistle and 
reading was seamless.  Later on I talked with one of my coworkers who also uses 
Office Lens and he agrees with me that it's a very good app and you sure can't 
beat the price. Granted it's not as simple to use as KNFB Reader  and it's 
certainly easier to use than Prizmo, so for me, it's a keeper. 

I have a question for the person who mentioned that Office Lens preserves or at 
least approximates the document formatting. In the past, I've found that 
PC-based  packages like Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 will  "mangle" forms of 
various sorts, absolutely destroying their formatting  and making them unusable 
for anything except determining what information is asked for in the form. Is 
it possible to scan something like a job application, then export it into Word 
so that a blind person could then fill it out independently on a computer, 
print it out and submit it? It would be fabulous if such a scenario is possible.

Tom



Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear you are having the same experience I have had. The price is 
> unbeatable and every software or OS in the world collects information about 
> how we use our devices so why the big to-do about Microsoft? It is a darn 
> sight better than paying $99 for KNFB Reader in my opinion.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
>  
> Marie,
>  
> I have to agree with you. I had great success with Office Lens scanning a 
> two-page homeowners association minutes document. Granted, the document 
> contained print with a larger font but I liked the app's ability to scan it, 
> convert every letter correctly, format it with a similar appearance as the 
> original, and save it as a Word docx file to Dropbox. I did put the camera 
> mode on document and those using the app should be aware you can pick from 
> among business card, photo, document, and white board modes by a single 
> finger swipe up and down on the camera mode button. Also, the app was good 
> about indicating left and right needed movement when positioning my camera 
> before taking the picture. I already have a Microsoft account set up in my 
> iPhone 7 so I wasn't presented with anything having to do with that when 
> using the app. And I was presented with a screen allowing me to save it from 
> Word where I opened it directly to the desired folder in Dropbox. It was very 
> slick and well done even if not as quick as KNFB Reader. You absolutely can't 
> beat the free price and if you want to capture a document on your phone that 
> looks like the original, this is the app for that. And I'm not worried about 
> Microsoft getting access to my business any more than those who are Office 
> 365 users should be.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 4:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Office Lens, New App
>  
> I am amazed that three of you say you did not find this app useful. I just 
> downloaded it today and am thrilled with what it does and how easy it was to 
> get started. Strange that our experience would be so different.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>

Re: Question on system services under Cellular

[Donna]

I too, see system services in settings in celluar. This lists the data used by 
your phone & can not be turned off. 

Donna 
> 
> Hi Ed, 
> 
> I do see this on my iPhone SE. It just appears to show the amount of mobile 
> data each system service has used. I don't appear to be able to do anything 
> in this section. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brett.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/21/2017 7:58 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> When I go into cellular then at the bottom of that page under weather the 
>> next thing on my iPhone 6s plus is system services and it chose it used 325 
>> KB. Now on my wife’s 6 plus she does not have system services. So that is 
>> why I am asking what it is. Again when I go into Cellular and go down the 
>> page I get all my apps and how much data they have used. Then after the 
>> weather app the next one down is system services. Do you have that on your 
>> 6s plus and if you do what is it.
>> Mr. Ed
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question on system services under Cellular
>>  
>> I don’t know what you are seeing, System Services is under Privacy > 
>> Location Services, I have no system services under Cellular and never seen 
>> it on any of my iPhones.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 5:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question on system services under Cellular
>>  
>> Hi All,
>> I have a 6s plus and when I go to setting/cellular then down towards the 
>> bottom of the list I have system services. My wife has a 6 plus and when she 
>> goes to the same location she does not have system services. Does anyone 
>> know why this is? Also what is system services? If I turn if off what 
>> happens?
>> Mr. Ed
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