bluetooth keyboard command

[Robert Doc Wright]

Is there an equivalent keyboard command for the new 4-finger swipe that 
switches you through the appps you have in the app switcher?

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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

[Robert Doc Wright]

What you have described is a single finger double tap.
He is wanting a two finger double tap. 

Richard if you are speaking of the command to answer and hang up calls and 
start and stop music then the command is 
vo -
command option dash

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  Hi, How are you? Yes, I think that works if you do control option spacebar. I 
just try it just now and it works. You just need to press teh control plus 
option keys and space bar at the same time.  Another way to double tap is if 
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In the list of keyboard commands for VoiceOver, it says that to do a two 
finger double tap it is Control-Options-quote.
However, that does nothing with the Amazon KT1081.
I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

[Robert Doc Wright]

Interesting, isn't a quote established by pressing shift + apostrophy? When 
I press that key command it says "modifyer key lock". Its a toggle.I'm not 
quite sure what is meant by modifyer key locked...
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Subject: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question


In the list of keyboard commands for VoiceOver, it says that to do a two 
finger double tap it is Control-Options-quote.

However, that does nothing with the Amazon KT1081.
I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
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RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That may very well be so, but that still doesn't mean I have to do everything I 
can to give Google as much information as possible. In any case, true privacy 
does exist, it's just that most of us don't choose to give up the conveniences 
of modern life and technology to achieve it. I live in northern BC and know 
quite a few people who don't have a cell phone, they have never signed up for 
an email address let along a Facebook account and probably have never been 
online. They live in the country or the bush and some don't even have a phone 
or electricity. Would I want to live like this, well, no, but I can still be 
careful what I post on Facebook, how much access I give to various apps and 
what devices I allow into my home. If I don't have an internet connected camera 
in my house there is no chance anybody can hack it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Andy Baracco
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Subject: Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

I have come to the conclusion that true privacy no longer exists.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone


Hi richard,
Well to be honest, I saw an article and had a link in the article to the App 
Store. So I follow that link. I never actually search in the App Store. So 
I'm not sure what you would search under. I don't have the article anymore 
sorry. I'm going to delete the app in any case.
Mary


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> On May 17, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mary,
> I just searched the app store and didn't find it.
> Could you send the link from the app store?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
>
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> Of Mary Otten
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org; 
> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>
> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. 
> I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to 
> give it permission to access location even when you're not using it. This 
> is so it can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where 
> you are when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going 
> to take on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? 
> Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of 
> Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them 
> permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other things that are not 
> location dependent.
> Mary
>
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RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Michael G McKay]

Hi! Folks:

I just heard about Google assistant. Thanks for the heads up concerning this 
app. I only use google for a search engine, and Gmail service. Nothing else.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: May 17, 2017 11:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

The app just became available in the App Store today, coincident with the start 
of Google I/O. It's definitely there, and it definitely requires this location 
thing be turned on and be active even when you're not using the app. No thank 
you.
Mary


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> On May 17, 2017, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is interesting.  
> 
> Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to Google 
> Now.
> 
> I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.
> 
> Funny about the location services condition.  
> 
> On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can use 
> the Google assistant just fine.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> Mary Otten
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> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
> 
> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
> downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give it 
> permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so it 
> can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are 
> when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take on 
> Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given that 
> they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google assistant. 
> But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them permission. I don't 
> see why he couldn't do other things that are not location dependent.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

[SoonerAnnie]

Richard, it is control-option-hyphen...the key to the right of the 0. 

Ann 

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> On May 16, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> In the list of keyboard commands for VoiceOver, it says that to do a two 
> finger double tap it is Control-Options-quote.
> However, that does nothing with the Amazon KT1081.
> I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
> Richard
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Andy Baracco]

I have come to the conclusion that true privacy no longer exists.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone


Hi richard,
Well to be honest, I saw an article and had a link in the article to the App 
Store. So I follow that link. I never actually search in the App Store. So 
I'm not sure what you would search under. I don't have the article anymore 
sorry. I'm going to delete the app in any case.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Hi Mary,
I just searched the app store and didn't find it.
Could you send the link from the app store?

Thanks,
Richard


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Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. 
I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to 
give it permission to access location even when you're not using it. This 
is so it can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where 
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Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of 
Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them 
permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other things that are not 
location dependent.

Mary


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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Mary Otten]

I gave some apps location access, because they clearly need it, like maps apps 
for instance. But why does an app need to have location services when it's not 
even being used? To me, that makes exactly no sense. Hope they fix it. But 
since they really want data, they might not regarded as a "fix".
Mary


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> On May 17, 2017, at 7:56 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I give most apps location access with out caring much so this wouldn't
> bother me but for those that it would this sucks. Hopefully they fix
> this
> 
>> On 5/17/17, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> The app just became available in the App Store today, coincident with the
>> start of Google I/O. It's definitely there, and it definitely requires this
>> location thing be turned on and be active even when you're not using the
>> app. No thank you.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> This is interesting.
>>> 
>>> Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to
>>> Google Now.
>>> 
>>> I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.
>>> 
>>> Funny about the location services condition.
>>> 
>>> On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can
>>> use the Google assistant just fine.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:09 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org;
>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>>> 
>>> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store.
>>> I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to
>>> give it permission to access location even when you're not using it. This
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>>> you are when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going
>>> to take on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private?
>>> Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of
>>> Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them
>>> permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other things that are not
>>> location dependent.
>>> Mary
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[lenron brown]

I give most apps location access with out caring much so this wouldn't
bother me but for those that it would this sucks. Hopefully they fix
this

On 5/17/17, Mary Otten  wrote:
> The app just became available in the App Store today, coincident with the
> start of Google I/O. It's definitely there, and it definitely requires this
> location thing be turned on and be active even when you're not using the
> app. No thank you.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 17, 2017, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mary,
>>
>> This is interesting.
>>
>> Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to
>> Google Now.
>>
>> I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.
>>
>> Funny about the location services condition.
>>
>> On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can
>> use the Google assistant just fine.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org;
>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>>
>> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store.
>> I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to
>> give it permission to access location even when you're not using it. This
>> is so it can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where
>> you are when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going
>> to take on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private?
>> Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of
>> Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them
>> permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other things that are not
>> location dependent.
>> Mary
>>
>>
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Mary Otten]

The app just became available in the App Store today, coincident with the start 
of Google I/O. It's definitely there, and it definitely requires this location 
thing be turned on and be active even when you're not using the app. No thank 
you.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2017, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is interesting.  
> 
> Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to Google 
> Now.
> 
> I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.
> 
> Funny about the location services condition.  
> 
> On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can use 
> the Google assistant just fine.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org; 
> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
> 
> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
> downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give it 
> permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so it 
> can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are 
> when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take on 
> Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given that 
> they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google assistant. 
> But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them permission. I don't 
> see why he couldn't do other things that are not location dependent.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Mary Otten]

No, you cannot say OK Google to the assistant on the iPhone. Apple will not 
allow that, at least as of now. That would take one of the few advantages that 
Siri still has a way, since you can do Siri hands-free and no other assistant 
is allowed that privilege on the iPhone.
Mary


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> On May 17, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> Is it available when you say OK, Google or do you have to open the app each 
> time you want to use it?
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org ; 
> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
> 
> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
> downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give it 
> permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so it 
> can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are 
> when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take on 
> Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given that 
> they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google assistant. 
> But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them permission. I don't 
> see why he couldn't do other things that are not location dependent.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[lenron brown]

I would use the google assistant. It's a bit smarter than siri. Not
saying it's bad but the home and echo are pretty amazing.

On 5/17/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks.
> Interesting that it didn't show up when I searched for Google Assistant.
> But, after reading the information it gathers, I'm with Mary on this one.
> It even keeps track of the music, books, apps, contacts, etc.  That is way
> too much information to trust to Google in my opinion.
>
> I'll stick with Siri as my assistant.
>
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>
> I'm pretty sure she's referring to Google Assistant, which replaced
> Google Now. Try this link
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-google-assistant-get-help-anytime-anywhere/id1220976145?mt=8
>
> On 17/05/17 19:48, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> I think she's referring to Google Now.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>>
>>
>> Hello Mary,
>>
>> This is interesting.
>>
>> Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to
>> Google Now.
>>
>> I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.
>>
>> Funny about the location services condition.
>>
>> On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can
>> use the Google assistant just fine.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org;
>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>>
>> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App
>> Store. I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you
>> need to give it permission to access location even when you're not using
>> it. This is so it can make a so-called private map of where you have
>> been and where you are when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a
>> toll that is going to take on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google
>> that t it's private? Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to
>> certain aspects of Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled
>> unless you give them permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other
>> things that are not location dependent.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
Well to be honest, I saw an article and had a link in the article to the App 
Store. So I follow that link. I never actually search in the App Store. So I'm 
not sure what you would search under. I don't have the article anymore sorry. 
I'm going to delete the app in any case.
Mary


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> On May 17, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I just searched the app store and didn't find it.
> Could you send the link from the app store?
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mary Otten
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> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
> 
> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
> downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give it 
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> can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are 
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> they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google assistant. 
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> Mary
> 
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Re: Transitioning from Spotify to Apple Music

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Gerardo,

>From the tabs you are describing, you must be running iOS 9.35 or earlier.  In 
>iOS 10, apple updated the design of the music app, and the tabs at the bottom 
>are different.
So Apple music does not have any thing called favorites, but as mentioned in a 
previous message, you can use playlist for this if you like.
To add a song or album to a playlist, just do a double tap and hold on it and a 
menu will pop up.  Look through the choices in this menu, there are several 
choices.  Of coarse, add to playlist is one of the choices.
To create a new playlist, go to the library tab, double tap on playlist, then 
you should find an add or new button.  It will then give you an edit field to 
type in the name of the playlist.

By default, none of the music will be downloaded to your device.  It will use 
WI-FI or your cell data to stream the music.
To download a particular song, just flick up on a song and one of the choices 
is download.  You can do the same thing with albums and even entire playlist.  
So you can choose what music you have downloaded, and what you stream.

You can share songs, albums, and even playlist with other apple music 
subscribers.  You can even look at the lyrics of a particular song.
One more thing I will mention about playlist.
After tapping on playlist, you will notice a few extra in your list.  These are 
default playlist that automatically update themselves.
Most Recently added, will be a generated playlist of your most recently added 
songs.  Do not know timeframe or max number.
Most Recently played, will be a generated playlist of the songs that you 
recently listened too.  Again, do not know timeframe or max number of songs.
Top 25 most played, will be a generated playlist of the top 25 songs that you 
have listened too the most.
Again, these playlist automatically update themselves.

I hope this has been helpful.
Feel free to ask any questions that you might have.

Chris



When you find a song or album you like, you first need to add it to your 
library.  Then you can take what you have added to your library and add it to 
specific playlist that you create.


> On May 17, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Sadly I'm going to have to stick with AppleMusic instead of Spotify with 
> which I was getting excited and very familiar with because of circumstances 
> that so as to save space, I won't go into, but anyway I'm wanting to know of 
> within the iPhone app of course, what spotify functions equal in Apple Music 
> to the tasks or function of adding items to Favorites?
> 
> I have a playlist I want to have as a Favorite; you know how in Spotify you 
> can add it to your Favorites? OK does Apple Music have a similar function? 
> Where in Apple Music are your favorite Playlists, albums and other content? I 
> see 5 tabs which are For me, Explore, Search, Library. I go into the More 
> option in the playlist I'm wanting to favorite, but i can't find anything 
> like on Spotify where it says Add to playlist etc.
> 
> For now I think that's it, but if I can think of any in the next days, I'll 
> ask again, but at least the one mentioned if you could give tips/tricks, or 
> if this can't be done in Apple Music? so as to know what to expect from it if 
> it's different from Spotify or the same in some areas?
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RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Thanks.
Interesting that it didn't show up when I searched for Google Assistant.
But, after reading the information it gathers, I'm with Mary on this one.
It even keeps track of the music, books, apps, contacts, etc.  That is way too 
much information to trust to Google in my opinion.

I'll stick with Siri as my assistant.

Richard


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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

I'm pretty sure she's referring to Google Assistant, which replaced 
Google Now. Try this link 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-google-assistant-get-help-anytime-anywhere/id1220976145?mt=8

On 17/05/17 19:48, Andy Baracco wrote:
> I think she's referring to Google Now.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>
>
> Hello Mary,
>
> This is interesting.
>
> Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to
> Google Now.
>
> I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.
>
> Funny about the location services condition.
>
> On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can
> use the Google assistant just fine.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Mary Otten
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> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone
>
> They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App
> Store. I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you
> need to give it permission to access location even when you're not using
> it. This is so it can make a so-called private map of where you have
> been and where you are when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a
> toll that is going to take on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google
> that t it's private? Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to
> certain aspects of Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled
> unless you give them permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other
> things that are not location dependent.
> Mary
>
>
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm pretty sure she's referring to Google Assistant, which replaced 
Google Now. Try this link 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-google-assistant-get-help-anytime-anywhere/id1220976145?mt=8


On 17/05/17 19:48, Andy Baracco wrote:

I think she's referring to Google Now.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone


Hello Mary,

This is interesting.

Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to
Google Now.

I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.

Funny about the location services condition.

On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can
use the Google assistant just fine.

Mark

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Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org;
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App
Store. I downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you
need to give it permission to access location even when you're not using
it. This is so it can make a so-called private map of where you have
been and where you are when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a
toll that is going to take on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google
that t it's private? Given that they sell data? I was looking forward to
certain aspects of Google assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled
unless you give them permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other
things that are not location dependent.
Mary


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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Marie]

Is it available when you say OK, Google or do you have to open the app each 
time you want to use it?

Marie


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Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give 
it permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so 
it can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are 
when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take 
on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given 
that they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google 
assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them 
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Re: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Andy Baracco]

I think she's referring to Google Now.

Andy

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Hello Mary,

This is interesting.

Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to Google 
Now.


I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.

Funny about the location services condition.

On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can use 
the Google assistant just fine.


Mark

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Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give 
it permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so 
it can make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are 
when you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take 
on Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given 
that they sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google 
assistant. But it seems to be totally crippled unless you give them 
permission. I don't see why he couldn't do other things that are not 
location dependent.

Mary


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RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary,
I just searched the app store and didn't find it.
Could you send the link from the app store?

Thanks,
Richard


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make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are when 
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Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given that they 
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RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

Yes, Google's business is to collect as much information about you as possible 
so they can use said information/data to target ads based on your habits and so 
on. The fact that this would always want access to my location is one reason 
for me not even to bother installing it. I have turned frequent locations off 
in iOS under Location Services > System Services because while I trust Apple a 
lot more than Google, I still don't think they need to keep track of everywhere 
I go, there is probably already enough of that simply by virtue your phone is 
constantly communicating with cell towers.

This is also one of the reasons why I haven't bothered yet with something ike 
the Echo or the Google Home. I am not paranoid about this sort of stuff or see 
a conspiracy in everything, but there is something that makes me uncomfortable 
aobut having a highly sensitive speaker in my home that listens to everything 
that goes on and is said unless you turn it off which defeats the purpose. Of 
course I have also not been tempted too much yet because neither Amazon nor 
Google so far have bothered to make their smart speakers officially available 
in Canada. There are places in the States where I could order one and they 
would ship to Canada, but why should I do this if the companies themselves 
don't seem to want my business.
I must say that if Apple comes out with one which now seems more and more 
likely I will be much more tempted. For one it is more likely that it will be 
available here in Canada and as I said, I trust Apple more with my privacy than 
Amazon or Google. Microsoft of course is said to also get into this possibly 
via a partnership with Harman Kardon and down the road maybe other companies so 
we'll have to wait and see. I guess  in a few years these things will be as 
common place as cell phones and most people will be talking to their virtual 
assistants at home via such devices.


Regards,
Sieghard

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permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so it can 
make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are when 
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Braillepen 12

[Ann Byrne]

Does the Braillepen work only on the iPhone, or can you use it on an 
Androi phone as well???


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RE: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Mary,

This is interesting.  

Is this app actually called Google Assistant? Or are you referring to Google 
Now.

I checked the app a week ago and it was not there.

Funny about the location services condition.  

On my Samsun Galaxy phone, I have location services turned off and I can use 
the Google assistant just fine.

Mark

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macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Google assistant comes to the iPhone

They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give it 
permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so it can 
make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are when 
you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take on 
Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given that they 
sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google assistant. But it 
seems to be totally crippled unless you give them permission. I don't see why 
he couldn't do other things that are not location dependent.
Mary


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Google assistant comes to the iPhone

[Mary Otten]

They much touted Google Assistant is now available in the Apple App Store. I 
downloaded it and opened it, and in order to work at all, you need to give it 
permission to access location even when you're not using it. This is so it can 
make a so-called private map of where you have been and where you are when 
you're using it. So I wonder how much of a toll that is going to take on 
Battery Life. And do I really trust Google that t it's private? Given that they 
sell data? I was looking forward to certain aspects of Google assistant. But it 
seems to be totally crippled unless you give them permission. I don't see why 
he couldn't do other things that are not location dependent.
Mary


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RE: Transitioning from Spotify to Apple Music

[Marcia Yale]

Apple Music resides in your Library once you decide you want to keep it. The 
menu will have "Add to Library" as one of the options, and once added to your 
library, you can then decide if you want to download it to your device or just 
leave it in the cloud.

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Subject: Transitioning from Spotify to Apple Music

Sadly I'm going to have to stick with AppleMusic instead of Spotify with which 
I was getting excited and very familiar with because of circumstances that so 
as to save space, I won't go into, but anyway I'm wanting to know of within the 
iPhone app of course, what spotify functions equal in Apple Music to the tasks 
or function of adding items to Favorites?

I have a playlist I want to have as a Favorite; you know how in Spotify you can 
add it to your Favorites? OK does Apple Music have a similar function? Where in 
Apple Music are your favorite Playlists, albums and other content? I see 5 tabs 
which are For me, Explore, Search, Library. 
I go into the More option in the playlist I'm wanting to favorite, but i can't 
find anything like on Spotify where it says Add to playlist etc.

For now I think that's it, but if I can think of any in the next days, I'll ask 
again, but at least the one mentioned if you could give tips/tricks, or if this 
can't be done in Apple Music? so as to know what to expect from it if it's 
different from Spotify or the same in some areas?

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Re: Crafting Kingdom princess questions

[Wayne Merritt]

I have had that issue happen before as well, where Voiceover is a
little sluggish when going to certain parts of the game's screen.
Usually unloading and reloading it with triple click home helps a
little. I have also noticed that the battery on my iPhone 7 seems to
drop more when running the app. It might help to close and reopen the
app. Perhaps I'm playing the game too much ... no that can't be it,
grin. Anyway, random thoughts.

Wayne

On 5/16/17, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I have the same problem as well. I will tap on an item, and it doesn't
> always do what I tell it to. This is most common when I am going from one of
> the building areas back to the main screen with all the areas including the
> city on it. Our use voiceover, I don't know how accessible the built-in game
> voice is.
> Dacia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 16, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Lisa Belville 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've had the same problem.  Are you using VO or do you turn it off and use
>> the game's self voicing feature?
>>
>> I've tried it both ways and I do like how all aspects speak and are
>> completely accessible.  But there's no way to control the speed or volume
>> of the voice and it really is loud compared to other audio, so I usually
>> just use Voiceover and put up with some of the quirks.
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and
>> procrastinate all at once.
>> - Original Message - From: "Joney" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: Crafting Kingdom princess questions
>>
>>
>> I like the game, I do have problems getting it to click on the items I
>> want By the way, the princess gift to you does respond immediately. If she
>> was up a little bit at a time, but you can tell mostly on your logs and
>> some of the other things that start her low.
>>
>> Joney
>> talk2o...@gmail.com
>> "If God can bring you to it,
>> He will lead you through it."
>>
>>> On May 16, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Lisa Belville 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had that question, too.  I can't see any difference in my individual
>>> costs, but I've been shutting down and opening the app each time I claim
>>> one of the princess' gifts.  And yes, this game is massively addictive.
>>> 
>>>
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and
>>> procrastinate all at once.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Wayne Merritt" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:55 AM
>>> Subject: Crafting Kingdom princess questions
>>>
>>>
>>> Good day. I've gotten the game Crafting Kingdom this weekend and can see
>>> why it is addicting. A question about the princess. When you get her gift
>>> of a slight increase in sales, does that take effect immediately during
>>> the game, or does it start the next time you reset the game? I have found
>>> it hard to believe that there's no in-app purchases in this game. That is
>>> very rare with games in general, and blindness games in particular. If
>>> I'm playing a game that I'm invested in, like this one, then I don't mind
>>> doing in-app purchases. I would encourage others to leave similar
>>> comments in reviews for the app. Perhaps in-app purchases could be used
>>> to retain all of the gold that you've collected during the game between
>>> resets. That would really help so that you didn't have to start all over
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent from my iPhone 7
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Re: controlling unwanted motion

[Judy Pryor]

There is also a reduce motion button in settings, general, accessibility.
Judy

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> Hello, focus on the status bar at the top of the screen, perform a three 
> finger swipe up to reveal the Control Centre, then double tap lock 
> orientation to turn it on.
>> On 17 May 2017, at 19:22, Vicki  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> Which setting do I change to control what happens when I move my IPhone or 
>> IPad? The motion is way too sensitive and screens change, apps close etc. 
>> when I move the Phone or IPad?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Vicki
>> 
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Best way to send my location to someone

[Joe Thibault]

Hi group,

 

What is the easiest or best way to send my location/address/coordinates to
someone? I was out of town. I was dropped off on a corner by a friend. I
must have misunderstood the instructions as to where I was at. My son was
coming to pick me up but I wasn't where I said I was. We got it straightened
out and it was no big deal, but I thought I could easily send my location
with Google Maps or Blind Square or one of the other GPs app via an email or
text message. I don't know how to do that.

 

Thanks for your help,

Formerly lost in Minneapolis,

Joe Thibault

 

 

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Re: controlling unwanted motion

[Vicki]

It's on and has always been on. Any other suggestions?


- Original Message - 
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To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: controlling unwanted motion


Hello, focus on the status bar at the top of the screen, perform a three 
finger swipe up to reveal the Control Centre, then double tap lock 
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On 17 May 2017, at 19:22, Vicki  wrote:

Good Afternoon,

Which setting do I change to control what happens when I move my IPhone 
or IPad? The motion is way too sensitive and screens change, apps close 
etc. when I move the Phone or IPad?


Thanks.

Vicki


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Transitioning from Spotify to Apple Music

[Gerardo Corripio]

Sadly I'm going to have to stick with AppleMusic instead of Spotify with 
which I was getting excited and very familiar with because of 
circumstances that so as to save space, I won't go into, but anyway I'm 
wanting to know of within the iPhone app of course, what spotify 
functions equal in Apple Music to the tasks or function of adding items 
to Favorites?


I have a playlist I want to have as a Favorite; you know how in Spotify 
you can add it to your Favorites? OK does Apple Music have a similar 
function? Where in Apple Music are your favorite Playlists, albums and 
other content? I see 5 tabs which are For me, Explore, Search, Library. 
I go into the More option in the playlist I'm wanting to favorite, but i 
can't find anything like on Spotify where it says Add to playlist etc.


For now I think that's it, but if I can think of any in the next days, 
I'll ask again, but at least the one mentioned if you could give 
tips/tricks, or if this can't be done in Apple Music? so as to know what 
to expect from it if it's different from Spotify or the same in some areas?


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Re: controlling unwanted motion

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, focus on the status bar at the top of the screen, perform a three finger 
swipe up to reveal the Control Centre, then double tap lock orientation to turn 
it on.
> On 17 May 2017, at 19:22, Vicki  wrote:
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> Good Afternoon,
>  
> Which setting do I change to control what happens when I move my IPhone or 
> IPad? The motion is way too sensitive and screens change, apps close etc. 
> when I move the Phone or IPad?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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controlling unwanted motion

[Vicki]

Good Afternoon,

Which setting do I change to control what happens when I move my IPhone or 
IPad? The motion is way too sensitive and screens change, apps close etc. when 
I move the Phone or IPad?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

[Richard Turner]

That is a one finger double tap.
The keyboar commands say there is a way to do a two finger double tap, like for 
answering calls, playing pausing music, etc.
Richard


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Hi, How are you? Yes, I think that works if you do control option spacebar. I 
just try it just now and it works. You just need to press teh control plus 
option keys and space bar at the same time.  Another way to double tap is if 
you turn the quick nuv on by pressing the left and right arrow at the same 
time, and to double tap use the up and down arrow by pressing them at the same 
time. Hope this helps! I look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks and God 
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On May 16, 2017, at 10:24 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
In the list of keyboard commands for VoiceOver, it says that to do a two finger 
double tap it is Control-Options-quote.
However, that does nothing with the Amazon KT1081.
I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
Richard

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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi, How are you? Yes, I think that works if you do control option spacebar. I 
just try it just now and it works. You just need to press teh control plus 
option keys and space bar at the same time.  Another way to double tap is if 
you turn the quick nuv on by pressing the left and right arrow at the same 
time, and to double tap use the up and down arrow by pressing them at the same 
time. Hope this helps! I look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks and God 
bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the Blind 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
 
Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, 
feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people 
with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! 
‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: 
https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D

  

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> On May 16, 2017, at 10:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> In the list of keyboard commands for VoiceOver, it says that to do a two 
> finger double tap it is Control-Options-quote.
> However, that does nothing with the Amazon KT1081.
> I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
> Richard
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An annoying thing about the latest facebook update. .

[Elizabeth Ulrich]

Has any one had an issue with updating the status button and encountering a 
next button that takes you to a screen where you select certain friends to see 
the post? Is there a work around for this? 


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Re: GPS Apps

[Feliciano Godoy]

BlindSquare has actions you can choose from on the fly when you press the play/ 
answer button on a headset. This is convenient when the iPhone is inside your 
pocket while BlindSquare is in use.

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On May 16, 2017, at 7:19 PM, Nimer Jaber 
> wrote:

Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other large 
cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be unreliable. 
I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have currently a 
3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk quite fast and 
so far the app seems to give me information about intersections in time. Apart 
from that I don’t care too much if it tells me every 5 seconds that I’m on so 
and so street since I usually know what street I’m on and if I want on demand 
information I just ask SIRI “What is my current location” and it tells me the 
address with street name or an address range with street name.
Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
like to take a look as I don’t recall one.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
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Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding.

Andy

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From: Nimer Jaber
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,
I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me not 
want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:

  *   Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  *   The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
intersection descriptions though...
  *   The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I 
often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds 
can be a long time