RE: Mark's New Apple Watch: My First Favorite New App for WatchOS

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ed,

This is great info; thank you for sharing.

I truly hope that other VoiceOver watch owners will post their favorite watch 
apps/Complications as so many of us will find it helpful.

As for me, the only two apps I’ve installed on my watch, so far,  is the 
aforementioned Fit Port dashboard app/Complication and the Nike+ app.  

The Nike+ app leave much to be desired in iOS but is somewhat more useful and 
accessible on WatchOS.  Be that as it may, I cannot recommend Nike+ to 
VoiceOver users, at this time.  But for the fact that I have enough vision to 
see various aspects of the Apple Watch display, I don’t think I’d be able to 
use it without first having some sighted assistance.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:01 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Mark's New Apple Watch: My First Favorite New App for WatchOS

Hello Mark and  all,

Thanks Mark and you are welcome for the help. I also wanted to let people know 
about some Apple Watch apps that I have found useful:

1. ESPN - The ESPN app lives on my watch face with it’s complication for the 
majority of the summer as I am a very big Atlanta Braves fan, and I like to 
know what time the next game is scheduled, and what the score of the current 
game is when they are playing. This complication is great, the iPhone 
application has a ton of improvement that could be done. But in typical ESPN 
fashion they don’t seem to want to fix the unlabeled buttons to VO users. The 
Apple Watch is much more accessible and you can see stories and scores in the 
limited functionality it offers.

2. Mac ID - This app allows me to remotely lock my MacBook Pro 15 from across 
the room, or as I have it set via proximity. This means that I can get up from 
my desk and walk away from the computer and it will lock when I get about two 
feet away from it. You do how ever have to install the Mac ID client on your 
Mac, and have to download it from the companies website.

3. FitPort - As Mark said in the previous post this app will pull the step 
count for the day from your Apple motion sensor and store the results in the 
Health app, and FitPort pulls the step count. It is easy and simple to use.

4. DexCom G5 Mobile - This is probably the most used app on my Apple Watch and 
iPhone. This app connects via bluetooth to a wireless transmitter that is 
connected to a sensor that is located on my abdomen. This sensor and 
transmitter will send my blood sugar to my iPhone and Apple Watch every 5 
minutes. It will also tell me if my blood sugar is rising or dropping to 
quickly, so that I can take the appropriate actions and make corrections when 
needed.

5. DarkSky Weather - I love the amount of information DarkSky shows on the 
Apple Watch app. It is simple and very easy to understand and use.

6. Controller for Bose SoundTouch System - This is a very simple application. 
You must have the Bose SoundTouch system speakers for this to work. This app on 
both the iPhone and Apple Watch allow me to switch between my 6 favorite 
stations I have set with the Bose SoundTouch app. The interface is simply 
easier to use with VO, and is much less cluttered.

7. MLB @Bat app - This app used to be my goto app for Baseball scores and the 
complication on the Apple Watch, but the last couple of updates have made the 
app on the Watch very slow to load, and the complication doesn’t seem to update 
very quickly or often.


I hope this helps.

Ed Worrell
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On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Thank you, most kindly, for taking an interest in my new Apple Watch.  I
must say that the learning curve is quite steep, given that one has to
learn, essentially , both a new paradigm in terms of VoiceOver navigation.
Be that as it may, I have, thustly, found the experience immensely
refreshing and rewarding.

So, now that I have the watch teak the way I want it, for the time being, I
can tell you that I am most delighted with my first WatchOS app.  

The app is called FitPort.  

My favorite aspect of this simple health statistics dashboard is the fact
that, when installed on WatchOS, it also installs a Complication that allows
one to easily see the number of steps taken, from directly in the watch
face.  It's absolutely brilliant.  

So, I am currently using the Modular watch-face with the FitPort
Complication located in the center middle area of the watch face.  

Now, with the turn of the wheel on the side of the watch, I cannot remember
its name, I can quickly and conveniently hear the number of steps I've taken
so far, in a day.  

The best part is that this number is perfectly synchronized with the Health
app on iPhone just as WatchOS and iOS sync 

Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

[Monica Jones]

I had to go to the music app and hit connect or some such and it showed me 
all my subscriptions. This has been a difficult month for me financially due 
to a few medical bills so I had to temporarily let go some things. I still 
have Dropbox though.



-Original Message- 
From: Chris Smart

Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

through iTunes I believe.

At 12:44 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:
I forgot how to unsubscribe things like Apple Music. I used to know how but 
I had to reset my password Thanks for help.

Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

[Monica Jones]

Thanks bunches, it’s all done.


From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

In settings, go to your Apple ID where it says your name. It is the top one. 
Now go down to iTunes and App Store. Then double tap on Apple ID. Now double 
tap on view Apple ID. After you do this, you may have to enter your password. 
Subscriptions should be in that screen.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Monica Jones  wrote:


  I forgot how to unsubscribe things like Apple Music. I used to know how but I 
had to reset my password Thanks for help.
  Monni, the coffee gal
  Twitter, @Monni52


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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

[Monica Jones]

(lol) thank you. A friend helped me with it. I had forgotten my password and 
had to have it resetOnce my friend went through it with me, it didn't seem 
so daunting. Thank y'all for your help.



-Original Message- 
From: Chris Smart

Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

ah there it is. ignore what I said please. (grin)

At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:
In settings, go to your Apple ID where it says your name. It is the top 
one. Now go down to iTunes and App Store. Then double tap on Apple ID. Now 
double tap on view Apple ID. After you do this, you may have to enter your 
password. Subscriptions should be in that screen.


Jenn

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<coffeega...@att.net> wrote:


I forgot how to unsubscribe things like Apple Music. I used to know how 
but I had to reset my password Thanks for help.

Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52

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RE: the one-eared headphone that was spoken about last week

[Chip Orange]

Yes, but it was U.S. free shipping only.  Sorry.

 

If anyone needs to ask specific questions about this ear-phone before ordering, 
feel free to write to me at acora...@comcast.net as I am still quite impressed 
with it, but it might be a while before I see your question on this list.

 

Chip Orange

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the one-eared headphone that was spoken about last week

 

The only savings I heard about was a coupon for free shipping that Chip had 
gotten online somewhere. 

Sorry I cannot help further.

Richard

 





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

Hi Richard do you know what the code was that was given so you didn’t pay twice 
the price to get them to the u.k.  Janet

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:53 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: the one-eared headphone that was spoken about last week

 

I believe it was this one by Crane:

http://www.ccrane.com/Over-The-Ear-Headphone-Speaker

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the one-eared headphone that was spoken about last week

 

please could someone tell me the name of the headphone that was being talked 
about last week as I have lost the email.  sorry to be a pain.  Janet

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 

Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 5:08 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

 

Richard, or should that be Dr. Johnson?

 

I am replying here on list for two reasons: 1. I bow to your judgement, but 
as we are drawing toward the end of this list compilation, some people might 
find it useful for any last nuggets of VO gold!? I know that I have learnt many 
good tips this way, from this list.

2. A gesture, virtually, never mentioned, is the "look around" use of the 
screen. By this I mean, just touch the screen anywhere, move your finger around 
to see what you can find on the screen and, so long as you don't pick it up 
again, you won't be doing anything, changing anything or do any harm. I have 
shown my phone to potential VO/iPhone users, and their greatest fear is always, 
fear of activating something that will mess up my settings etc. 

 

Please forgive me if I missed this on your magnum opus, but I am up to my 
eyes in riced cauliflower right now, while reading a book (with iLike2Read Pro) 
and pondering upon different gestures at the same time, a true multitasker me!

 

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 2 Jul 2017, at 15:17, Richard Turner  wrote:

Dear Bothersome Sandy,

Good point.  My basic list of gestures is rapidly becoming an encyclopedia, 
which is great!

So, to save on list traffic, I will refer folks to my web site for updated 
copies of the list of gestures.

I am sure once people look at the lists there, there will be others to update.

Check the date at the bottom of the page to know how recently things were 
updated.

Website: www.turner42.com

 

Keep being bothersome, it helps, grin.

 

Later,

Richard

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

 

Richard,
Hope I'm not adding one that's already there, but that three finger sideWays 
swipe, is very useful in the email app. I don't use threaded mail, so, a quick 
flick from right to left with three fingers moose immediately into the previous 
message. like many of these gestures, they behave differently depending on the 
app.

 

from that bothersome Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 2 Jul 2017, at 14:55, Richard Turner  wrote:

Hi Mike,

You go from right to left or left to right, just like the three finger swipe 
for moving to the next screen of apps.

You of course have to have a couple apps open.

As Sandy said, keep the fingers fairly close together.

So, line up the four fingers along the edge of the screen say with your index 
near the dock and your little finger near the status bar, or at least oriented 
that way.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ever expanding list of VoiceOver Gestures

 

Question:

do you four finger swipe right to left/left to right?

Or do you four finger swipe from top to bottom/bottom to top?

 

I can’t get it to work anymore so it’s driving me nuts, and that ain’t no long 
trip!

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 

Re: iOS 11 Beta: Can't Reinstall Hooke Audio app

[Chris Smart]

Thanks for this. Unfortunately, I don't have a 
second device. I know I know, silly of me to go 
putting iOS 11 Beta on my one and only device. 
Living dangerously I guess. (grin)


Neat we can get around this problem though.

At 02:08 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:

Hey Chris,

Yes the download button is not visible to VO 
users at this point. If you have another iOS 
device handy, here is the work around I have found so far.


You will need to turn on automatic app downloads 
in the iTunes and app store section of settings, 
on both devices. Goto the spare/other device, 
not your main device. Download it on this device 
and it will start to download it to your primary 
device. I have had the issue sense developer 
beta 1. The option is to connect the device to a 
computer and use our good ol’ friend iTunes to reinstall it.


I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell
Co-Founder/CEO
OverHere Consulting LLP
“Bringing Technology into Sight†
e...@overhereconsulting.net

www.overhereconsulting.net

On Jul 5, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Chris Smart 
<csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


Problem: The Hooke Audio app wasn't recording 
past a few minutes, ever since I installed the 
iOS 11 public beta. Yes, I know this sort of instability is to be expected.


Anyway, I deleted the app outright, including 
its data, from inside Settings > General > iPhone Storage.


Now that an update to the app has appeared 
today, I would like to reinstall it. I can't 
"get" it. I can search for and find the app in 
the App Store, but there is nothing to tap on to download the app again.


Anybody else noticed this, where a deleted app can't be redownloaded?

Chris





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Re: iOS 11 Beta: Can't Reinstall Hooke Audio app

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Chris,

Yes the download button is not visible to VO users at this point. If you have 
another iOS device handy, here is the work around I have found so far.

You will need to turn on automatic app downloads in the iTunes and app store 
section of settings, on both devices. Goto the spare/other device, not your 
main device. Download it on this device and it will start to download it to 
your primary device. I have had the issue sense developer beta 1. The option is 
to connect the device to a computer and use our good ol’ friend iTunes to 
reinstall it.

I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell
Co-Founder/CEO
OverHere Consulting LLP
“Bringing Technology into Sight”
e...@overhereconsulting.net 
www.overhereconsulting.net 

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
> Problem: The Hooke Audio app wasn't recording past a few minutes, ever since 
> I installed the iOS 11 public beta. Yes, I know this sort of instability is 
> to be expected.
> 
> Anyway, I deleted the app outright, including its data, from inside Settings 
> > General > iPhone Storage.
> 
> Now that an update to the app has appeared today, I would like to reinstall 
> it. I can't "get" it. I can search for and find the app in the App Store, but 
> there is nothing to tap on to download the app again.
> 
> Anybody else noticed this, where a deleted app can't be redownloaded?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats." - 
> Albert Schweitzer 
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Re: Mark's New Apple Watch: My First Favorite New App for WatchOS

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Mark and  all,

Thanks Mark and you are welcome for the help. I also wanted to let people know 
about some Apple Watch apps that I have found useful:

1. ESPN - The ESPN app lives on my watch face with it’s complication for the 
majority of the summer as I am a very big Atlanta Braves fan, and I like to 
know what time the next game is scheduled, and what the score of the current 
game is when they are playing. This complication is great, the iPhone 
application has a ton of improvement that could be done. But in typical ESPN 
fashion they don’t seem to want to fix the unlabeled buttons to VO users. The 
Apple Watch is much more accessible and you can see stories and scores in the 
limited functionality it offers.

2. Mac ID - This app allows me to remotely lock my MacBook Pro 15 from across 
the room, or as I have it set via proximity. This means that I can get up from 
my desk and walk away from the computer and it will lock when I get about two 
feet away from it. You do how ever have to install the Mac ID client on your 
Mac, and have to download it from the companies website.

3. FitPort - As Mark said in the previous post this app will pull the step 
count for the day from your Apple motion sensor and store the results in the 
Health app, and FitPort pulls the step count. It is easy and simple to use.

4. DexCom G5 Mobile - This is probably the most used app on my Apple Watch and 
iPhone. This app connects via bluetooth to a wireless transmitter that is 
connected to a sensor that is located on my abdomen. This sensor and 
transmitter will send my blood sugar to my iPhone and Apple Watch every 5 
minutes. It will also tell me if my blood sugar is rising or dropping to 
quickly, so that I can take the appropriate actions and make corrections when 
needed.

5. DarkSky Weather - I love the amount of information DarkSky shows on the 
Apple Watch app. It is simple and very easy to understand and use.

6. Controller for Bose SoundTouch System - This is a very simple application. 
You must have the Bose SoundTouch system speakers for this to work. This app on 
both the iPhone and Apple Watch allow me to switch between my 6 favorite 
stations I have set with the Bose SoundTouch app. The interface is simply 
easier to use with VO, and is much less cluttered.

7. MLB @Bat app - This app used to be my goto app for Baseball scores and the 
complication on the Apple Watch, but the last couple of updates have made the 
app on the Watch very slow to load, and the complication doesn’t seem to update 
very quickly or often.


I hope this helps.

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> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> Thank you, most kindly, for taking an interest in my new Apple Watch.  I
> must say that the learning curve is quite steep, given that one has to
> learn, essentially , both a new paradigm in terms of VoiceOver navigation.
> Be that as it may, I have, thustly, found the experience immensely
> refreshing and rewarding.
> 
> So, now that I have the watch teak the way I want it, for the time being, I
> can tell you that I am most delighted with my first WatchOS app.  
> 
> The app is called FitPort.  
> 
> My favorite aspect of this simple health statistics dashboard is the fact
> that, when installed on WatchOS, it also installs a Complication that allows
> one to easily see the number of steps taken, from directly in the watch
> face.  It's absolutely brilliant.  
> 
> So, I am currently using the Modular watch-face with the FitPort
> Complication located in the center middle area of the watch face.  
> 
> Now, with the turn of the wheel on the side of the watch, I cannot remember
> its name, I can quickly and conveniently hear the number of steps I've taken
> so far, in a day.  
> 
> The best part is that this number is perfectly synchronized with the Health
> app on iPhone just as WatchOS and iOS sync the Activity data.  
> 
> Very, very impressive.  
> 
> The FitPort app cost $2.99 in the US App Store.  I have posted a very
> positive review in the App Store on FitPort's behalf and I have mentioned
> them in a Tweet at @FitPort.
> 
> Special thanks to Ed for pointing me to this amazing simple and easy-to-use
> app.
> 
> Until Next Time,
> 
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Re: one more question on WhatsApp

[Vicki]

Thank you.


  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: Re: one more question on WhatsApp


   Hi  Bicky. How are you?  Did you update your Whatsap app to the recent 
update? If yu did, you go to chats, and on the top right corner you wil find 
icon new chat, adn you will  see your recent contacts  and people  yu chat 
constantly, and also your Whatsapp contacts. Now the Whatsapp app has  a 
feature that you can swipe down or flick down and you can reply to a message 
and more in   groups, and also in private chats. Hope this helps. I look 
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  On Jul 3, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Vicki  wrote:


Good Morning,

Is there a place in the WhatsApp program when it is opened that shows my 
list of contacts available in that program? I thought there was, but now I am 
not finding it.

Thanks.

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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

[Chris Smart]

ah there it is. ignore what I said please. (grin)

At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:
In settings, go to your Apple ID where it says your name. It is the 
top one. Now go down to iTunes and App Store. Then double tap on 
Apple ID. Now double tap on view Apple ID. After you do this, you 
may have to enter your password. Subscriptions should be in that screen.


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I forgot how to unsubscribe things like Apple Music. I used to know 
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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

[Chris Smart]

through iTunes I believe.

At 12:44 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:
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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

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In settings, go to your Apple ID where it says your name. It is the top one. 
Now go down to iTunes and App Store. Then double tap on Apple ID. Now double 
tap on view Apple ID. After you do this, you may have to enter your password. 
Subscriptions should be in that screen.

Jenn

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Re: which GPS app should i buy?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

in danger of drifting off topic, but have you found any apps to use with your 
galaxy and Galileo?

I just want to know about this accuracy business!
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 6 Jul 2017, at 10:37, Andrea Roveretto  wrote:
> 
> the galaxy s8 sold in the u.s. surely has galileo compatibility
> 
> I am not sure about the version sold in europe because I don't find good info 
> about that version, wich I have in my possession :)
> 
> 
> 
> Il 06/07/2017 11:17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>> hi Andreya,
>> While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still 
>> much greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!
>> 
>> I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, 
>> there might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. 
>> however, this might be the very thing that will push me onto the android 
>> platform.
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 
>>> 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
 ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough 
 position to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to 
 clocks on satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us 
 access to many more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater 
 accuracy from it. what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been 
 since January. it has, already, greatly improved search and rescue 
 response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS system, at the 
 moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. so, if 
 anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, do 
 please let us know!
 
 from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
 
 sent from the dark side of the moon
 
> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to 
> ask passers-by.
> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it 
> entirely.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Husna Begum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
> 
> Husna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
> works for me and suits my purposes.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
>> Kelly:
>> 
>> Good points.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
>> say
>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  
>> Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken 

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Andrea Roveretto]

the galaxy s8 sold in the u.s. surely has galileo compatibility

I am not sure about the version sold in europe because I don't find good 
info about that version, wich I have in my possession :)




Il 06/07/2017 11:17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:

hi Andreya,
While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still much 
greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!

I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, there 
might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. however, this 
might be the very thing that will push me onto the android platform.

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto  wrote:

Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 2020 
or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.



Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner  wrote:

No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
passers-by.
Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
Kelly:

Good points.


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Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
say
and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
Nearby
explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
the world by educated peple.

Kelly


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
than Seeing Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
supports the "What Three Words" service.

Hope this helps.


-Original 

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi Andreya,
While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still much 
greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!

I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, there 
might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. however, this 
might be the very thing that will push me onto the android platform.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto  wrote:
> 
> Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 
> 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.
> 
> 
> 
> Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position 
>> to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on 
>> satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many 
>> more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. 
>> what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, 
>> already, greatly improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the 
>> only non-military GPS system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions 
>> of accuracy do not apply. so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as 
>> to which devices can use it, do please let us know!
>> 
>> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
>>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to 
>>> ask passers-by.
>>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it 
>>> entirely.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Husna Begum
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>>> 
>>> Husna
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
 Kelly:
 
 Good points.
 
 
 ---
 
 Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kelly Pierce
 Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
 
 Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
 say
 and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
 recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
 America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
 you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
 Nearby
 explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
 languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
 the world by educated peple.
 
 Kelly
 
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
> Well,
> 
> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
> 
> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
> 
> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
> than Seeing Eye GPS;
> 1:  It's much cheeper;
> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
> Seeing-Eye GPS.
> 
> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
> 

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Andrea Roveretto]

Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be 
in 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.




Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner  wrote:

No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
passers-by.
Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
say
and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
Nearby
explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
the world by educated peple.

Kelly


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
than Seeing Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
supports the "What Three Words" service.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
of Nearby Explorer.

I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
offered for Nearby Explorer.

If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not
my favorite because the 

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.  
> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
> passers-by.
> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Husna Begum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
> 
> Husna
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
> works for me and suits my purposes.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
>> Kelly:
>> 
>> Good points.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not 
>> say
>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English. 
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
>> the world by educated peple.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>> 
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>> 
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>> 
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
>>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
>>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
>>> of Nearby Explorer.
>>> 
>>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
>>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
>>> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
>>> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant 

Mark's New Apple Watch: My First Favorite New App for WatchOS

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Thank you, most kindly, for taking an interest in my new Apple Watch.  I
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