Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Kevin Chao]

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not
sure if it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power
adapter and usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but
> probably not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger
> improves charging time significantly.
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
>> Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it
>> work on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
>>> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging
>>>
>>> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
>>> fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite
>>> how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
>>> Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast
>>> charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.
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Seven Little Words

[Jewel]

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with the letter combinations that have been used, if they are not required for 
another solution,  but this is not happening. Also:  when I fill in:  e.g:  
"First man to walk on the moon?" and using the clues list, I fill in 
arm-str-ong, and then follow it with "British princess, Kate?" and fill in 
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello,

I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but
probably not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger
improves charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work
> on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
>> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging
>>
>> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast
>> charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how
>> to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
>> Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast
>> charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Kevin Chao]

Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work
on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging
>
> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast
> charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how
> to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
> Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast
> charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.
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Re: Lost speech when updating to iOS 11 GM.

[Harry Bell]

You can't always rely on Siri. In ios 11 GM, if I ask Siri to turn invert 
colours on or off, she claims to have done this but in fact she hasn't and I 
have to go into settings to do it myself manually. I've reported this to Apple 
but there are other glitches in ios 11 which will bother folk. 
Harry

> On 16 Sep 2017, at 22:28, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> You can also ask Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then ask Siri to turn 
> VoiceOver on again.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 4:01 PM, marissasol...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Turn on off voiceover. Try increasing the volume. Or resetting all settings .
>> 
>> Question to the original poster I installed what I think is the GM but just 
>> want to make sure?  11.0 (15A327) 
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RE: some audio book questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just don't understand why they don't bring this feature to the iPhone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

A, thanks Rus, I knew I had seen streaming somewhere.

Chip


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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

The only place where you can stream books from audible is with the amazon echo 
devices.

-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, but 
I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).

Chip


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.

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Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the web 
site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download them 
to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they will work 
even if I am out of cell range.

Chip


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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does it 
work, you download them and they just come to your phone?
I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:
> Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is 
> really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app 
> or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works 
> as well on Windows.
>
> Another site for MP3 audio books is:
>
> https://www.downpour.com/
>
>
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> From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: some audio book questions
>
> Hey guys,
>
> OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is 
> the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books 
> accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to 
> buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you 
> recommend for apps?
>
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RE: some audio book questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Actually, you can stream when logged in to the Audible website with a computer 
and also with the audible Windows 10 UWP app.

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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

The only place where you can stream books from audible is with the amazon echo 
devices.

-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, but 
I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the web 
site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download them 
to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they will work 
even if I am out of cell range.

Chip


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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does it 
work, you download them and they just come to your phone?
I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:
> Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is 
> really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app 
> or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works 
> as well on Windows.
>
> Another site for MP3 audio books is:
>
> https://www.downpour.com/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jed Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: some audio book questions
>
> Hey guys,
>
> OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is 
> the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books 
> accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to 
> buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you 
> recommend for apps?
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RE: Iphone question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Can you explain what is happening that makes you think that?
I don't think it's likely, but if you descrie the phone's behaviour it might 
help.

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Hi everyone,
Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
for your help. 

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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I believe 
it is a USB-C to Lightning.


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Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast 
charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how to 
tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new Iphones, can 
I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast charging them. All of 
the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.

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Re: Radium and iOS 11

[Mary Otten]

I have the most recent version of the XM app, and I'm still not thrilled with 
it. It is usable, but it's not gods gift to efficiency, since there are so many 
unnecessary things on the screen to work your way through, all those damned 
images for instants.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> The XM app is 1000 times better since the update in early Sept. although I'm 
> super happy radium is being updated. I wonder when the update will come out? 
> Hopefuly with iOs 11 on Tuesday. We'll see. 
> 
> 
> Moop
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> That is great news. I'm not really wild about the XM app either. It beats a 
>> nothing, but I will be happy to see radium still usable. Now I wish they 
>> would also make an update for the Mac app.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys. I write to you guys bringing great news. Catpig Studios, the 
>>> makers of Radium, posted on Twitter on August 29 that they will make an 
>>> update for Radium that will work with iOS 11. This is great news because I 
>>> really don't like the native SiriusXM app so I can't wait until it's 
>>> available. I haven't deleted the app off my phone so I will let everyone 
>>> know when the update gets pushed out.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[juan mojena]

One other thing to consider though, is the price you might get for your iPhone 
6s Plus versus what what you might get next year. If I sold my iPhone 6s Plus 
with 64 gigs in good condition I would get $260 from Apple. I could then use 
that amount to offset the price of the iPhone X. 

Juan
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Billy Maynard  wrote:

hi robin,

thank you for your clarification.  I'll atleast have another year to keep my 
6+.  Like I said earlier face id will probly become the standard for hte iPhone 
and maybe next years moddle will be a little cheeper than 1,000 dollars+.  
Maybe the next phone moddle and ios 13 or hwat ever they call it (after ios 12) 
 will be good and I'll have to upgrade.

Sincerely,
B.J. Maynard
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: upgrading from a 6+


> Clarification:
> Apple generally used to ONLY provide Software Support for 3Years:
> Apple introduced its Apple iPhone4S in October2011 with iOS5 & retired it in 
> 2104, but Added an Extra Year of iOS updates because Apple iOS9 was viewed by 
> The Company as a More Stable than its predecessor, iOS8
> And, Now continues iOS support for 4Years   NOT 5Years
> 
> So the iPhone6 will Likely be retired ThisYear,2017 & receive its Last iOS 
> update NextYear with iOS12
> 
> Just Sayin
> At 11:26 PM 9/15/2017, you wrote:
>> Hello, Apple is the only company to provide hardware support for at least 
>> five years. From the information provided, you should be ok with the 6+ for 
>> at least three years including this one, in which iOS 11 will be definitely 
>> supported on the 6+.
>> > On 16 Sep 2017, at 03:59, Billy Maynard  wrote:
>> >
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading
>> to atleast an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder it'll 
>> support ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people 
>> mentioning on this list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any 
>> phone will take in ios before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is an 
>> expensive venture.  and I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue to 
>> support the ios versions.  Does anyone recall?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help,
>> > Billy Maynard
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Re: ReOrdering of email accounts

[TaraPrakash]

Thank you Maria
That worked nicely



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> Hi,
> Go to the top of the screen and VO should say mailboxes heading. Flick to the 
> left and you should hear edit. Double tap that edit button. Keep flicking 
> right until you hear the name of your first mailbox. Next to that there is a 
> reorder button. Double tap and hold and drag up and down to the place you 
> wantt.
> 
> Maria Reyes
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
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> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:36:04 PM
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> Subject: ReOrdering of email accounts
>  
> Hello all. 
> 
> If you have multiple email accounts configured, can you re-order them in the 
> mail app?  Like if your mail app shows Hotmail first and Gmail second can you 
> make it show Gmail first and  Hotmail second?
> I will appreciate your responses
> 
> Regards
> 
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Re: Radium and iOS 11

[Moop Curran]

Hi,
The XM app is 1000 times better since the update in early Sept. although I'm 
super happy radium is being updated. I wonder when the update will come out? 
Hopefuly with iOs 11 on Tuesday. We'll see. 


Moop

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> That is great news. I'm not really wild about the XM app either. It beats a 
> nothing, but I will be happy to see radium still usable. Now I wish they 
> would also make an update for the Mac app.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> 
>> Hi guys. I write to you guys bringing great news. Catpig Studios, the makers 
>> of Radium, posted on Twitter on August 29 that they will make an update for 
>> Radium that will work with iOS 11. This is great news because I really don't 
>> like the native SiriusXM app so I can't wait until it's available. I haven't 
>> deleted the app off my phone so I will let everyone know when the update 
>> gets pushed out.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Cristóbal]

It looks like bluetooth is only for the 6 quart model at the moment. Also looks 
like the sale is over.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

This is great! I've been wanting one of these for awhile. Do you know if it 
works with any of the sizes?

 

Vicki

 

- Original Message - 

From: Lois Butterfield   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

I appreciate you sharing this.  I have ordered mine.

 

Thanks,

Lois

 

From: Cristóbal   

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:10 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

Bluetooth enabled pressure cooker that is also a slow cooker, yogurt maker, 
rice maker and so on. It comes with in this case, an iOS app that is fully 
VoiceOver accessible.

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Bell
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and what the 
app does?  I have never heard of it Janet

 

From: Caitlyn Furness 

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every penny!! 
 the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!! 

 

HTH,

Caitlyn

 

On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  > wrote:

 

Hello list,

I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS 
app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired crowd 
for accessible cooking.

I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual $160 
to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.

 

 
https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth

 

I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had 
accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price matching.

IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.

 

Cristobal

 

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Re: Radium and iOS 11

[Mary Otten]

That is great news. I'm not really wild about the XM app either. It beats a 
nothing, but I will be happy to see radium still usable. Now I wish they would 
also make an update for the Mac app.
Mary


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> deleted the app off my phone so I will let everyone know when the update gets 
> pushed out.
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Re: ReOrdering of email accounts

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
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Subject: ReOrdering of email accounts

Hello all.

If you have multiple email accounts configured, can you re-order them in the 
mail app?  Like if your mail app shows Hotmail first and Gmail second can you 
make it show Gmail first and  Hotmail second?
I will appreciate your responses

Regards

TP


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Radium and iOS 11

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi guys. I write to you guys bringing great news. Catpig Studios, the makers of 
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Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Vicki]

This is great! I've been wanting one of these for awhile. Do you know if it 
works with any of the sizes?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lois Butterfield 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:17 PM
  Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale


  I appreciate you sharing this.  I have ordered mine.

  Thanks,
  Lois

  From: Cristóbal 
  Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

  Bluetooth enabled pressure cooker that is also a slow cooker, yogurt maker, 
rice maker and so on. It comes with in this case, an iOS app that is fully 
VoiceOver accessible.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
  Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

   

  please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and what the 
app does?  I have never heard of it Janet

   

  From: Caitlyn Furness 

  Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

   

  We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every 
penny!!  the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!! 

   

  HTH,

  Caitlyn

   

On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

 

Hello list,

I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent 
iOS app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired 
crowd for accessible cooking.

I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual 
$160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.


https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth

 

I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I 
had accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price matching.

IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.

 

Cristobal

 

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ReOrdering of email accounts

[TaraPrakash]

Hello all. 

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I will appreciate your responses

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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

Hello list,

I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS 
app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired crowd 
for accessible cooking.

I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual $160 
to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.

https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
 

 =1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth

 

I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had 
accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price matching.

IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.

 

Cristobal

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Re: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure what you're getting at here,unless you're calling US law 
envorcement thieves. The 5th ammendment is met to protect the rights of 
someone accused of a crime, most notably the right not to have to 
testify against yourself and provide self incriminating testimony. No 
where is it intended to deter a thief.



On 09/16/2017 05:33 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

I don't think the 5th amendment would deter a thief.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Gordon" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:49 AM
Subject: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday


so the feature is called emergency SOS. It's been available on 
watches since 2016, but now it's coming to the iPhone. This allows 
you to press the power button five times in a row to call emergency 
services. There are two configurable options. The first is the 
default setting where it presents you with a dialog to choose if you 
want to proceed with your call or cancel out of it. You can enable 
auto dial and it will auto dial after three seconds. But there is 
something else that's cool that you can do with it. If anyone is ever 
trying to force you to use your finger print to unlock your phone, 
you can press the power button five times as long is auto dial is 
disabled. This will force one to enter your pen or password as if you 
just restarted your phone for that unlock session. the website I read 
used law enforcement as an example. Here in the US law enforcement 
can force you by warrant too use your finger print to give them 
access to your phone, however they can't force you to enter a pen or 
password. That would be a violation of your fifth amendment right. 
I've known some blind people who had over protective family members 
who would try to force them to give them access to their phones to 
get in their business. So this would be a way where only you could 
unlock the phone and no one could use your finger print to quickly 
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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Cristóbal]

Looks to be back up to $160. I would guess that it'll be back on sale for the 
upcoming holidays though. This was the first time I saw it get that low. I had 
the benefit of my BestBuy points which made it a deal worth not passing up, but 
I would have probably even bought it at the $128 price though.
Side note, I purchased separately the tempered glass lid for $15 that can go 
with this unit as my wife is sighted and it appears to be a strong 
recommendation by lots of reviewers if you're going to use it as a crockpot. If 
it's only you or if there aren't any sighted folks in your house, then it of 
course it won't matter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

Added this to  my wish list, hopefully the sale last long enough for me to 
scoop one up.

On 9/16/17, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> I appreciate you sharing this.  I have ordered mine.
>
> Thanks,
> Lois
>
> From: Cristóbal
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale
>
> Bluetooth enabled pressure cooker that is also a slow cooker, yogurt 
> maker, rice maker and so on. It comes with in this case, an iOS app 
> that is fully VoiceOver accessible.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Janet Bell
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale
>
>
>
> please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and 
> what the app does?  I have never heard of it Janet
>
>
>
> From: Caitlyn Furness
>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale
>
>
>
> We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth 
> every penny!!  the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very 
> accessible!!
>
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Caitlyn
>
>
>
>   On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Hello list,
>
>   I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its 
> apparent iOS app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the 
> visually impaired crowd for accessible cooking.
>
>   I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its 
> usual
> $160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp
> /B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+
> pot+bluetooth
>
>
>
>   I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards 
> points I had accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a 
> bad price if you don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go 
> along with the price matching.
>
>   IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have 
> been thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.
>
>
>
>   Cristobal
>
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Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[lenron brown]

Added this to  my wish list, hopefully the sale last long enough for
me to scoop one up.

On 9/16/17, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> I appreciate you sharing this.  I have ordered mine.
>
> Thanks,
> Lois
>
> From: Cristóbal
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale
>
> Bluetooth enabled pressure cooker that is also a slow cooker, yogurt maker,
> rice maker and so on. It comes with in this case, an iOS app that is fully
> VoiceOver accessible.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Janet Bell
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale
>
>
>
> please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and what
> the app does?  I have never heard of it Janet
>
>
>
> From: Caitlyn Furness
>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale
>
>
>
> We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every
> penny!!  the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!!
>
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Caitlyn
>
>
>
>   On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Hello list,
>
>   I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent
> iOS app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired
> crowd for accessible cooking.
>
>   I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual
> $160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth
>
>
>
>   I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I
> had accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if
> you don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price
> matching.
>
>   IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been
> thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.
>
>
>
>   Cristobal
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Re: iOS 11 Information

[Andy Baracco]

www.applevis.com

Andy

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Subject: iOS 11 Information



Hi all,


I'm pretty strapped for cash right now, so I can't afford to get a copy of 
iOS 11 without the I. Is there a way I can find just a list of the updates 
and new features in general?




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Re: T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds

[lenron brown]

I called and placed my order. I got the space gray watch, 42 mm black
sport band. I am most likely going to be on the hunt for more bands
for sure. It won't ship until the end of October but that's probably
because of lack of internet for more than 12 hours I couldn't sign my
e signature. So that means my order wasn't official until today even
though I called yesterday, kind of sad about that. I hate waiting. I
think they only sell with the black band and the pink but I could be
wrong.

On 9/16/17, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I'm curious which watch you got and where you got it or I should say how.
> Did you call them and order or did you go through the T-Mobile store? I
> looked on the app and didn't find any means of ordering, but I guess you
> have to use the website. Also I'm sort of confused about the bands. Without
> being able to see them, it's hard to know what to get. I don't mean see, I
> mean in person touch.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 1:33 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>>
>> Ok ok as you may have seen in my last message almost tripped out and
>> canceled my order. I still am going to call them and find out the
>> limitations the plan for the watch will have if any though.
>>
>>> On 9/16/17, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> Phew!!
>>>
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>>
 On Sep 15, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 Good. My faith is somewhat restored. Smile.

 T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds
 TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog



 The Apple Watch Series 3 comes with built-in LTE, but as MacRumors
 pointed
 out, T-Mobile's add-on $10 wearable plan limits devices to 512kb/s
 connections. Tonight T-Mobile CEO John Legere announced its plan for
 the
 Watch will include unlimited 4G LTE speeds, saying that "We always
 listen
 & act!" That should help keep things even among the US carriers for
 anyone
 picking up a new iPhone and/or wrist-worn accessory.



 Original Article:
 https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/15/t-mobile-apple-watch-4g-lte-throttle/


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Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Mike,

Try the below.

http://mosen.org/iOS11/

Thanks,

Sadam Ahmed

On 17/09/2017 8:24 AM, Mike B. wrote:
*Would you please post the correct URL for ordering the book? Thanks 
much.*

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- Original Message -
*From:* Ted Filteau 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:11 AM
*Subject:* RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Robbie,
I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the
mosen.org site which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this 
a try.

Ted


At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
>Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I
>paid with paypal, but I could not find a download link.
>
>Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Robbie
>
>millerrob...@comcast.net
>
>
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>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

>Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

>Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
>To: Viphone
>Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS
>11 when it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've
>participated in the public beta program since the very beginning,
>there were things I didn't even know about, or were not sure about,
>and now I do thanks to this book.
>All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> > On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten > wrote:

> >
> > Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without 
the eye.

>It might be of particular interest to folks who have not
>participated in the beta program, but even those folks might learn a
>thing or two. I have used these books in the past, and found them to
>be quite helpful, as I like written documentation better than
>podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this post of course.
>Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is instantly
>available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
>You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you
>are interested.
> > Mary
> >
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Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Mike B.]

Here's the correct URL:

http://mosen.org/ios11/

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- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released


Would you please post the correct URL for ordering the book?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Ted Filteau
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released


Robbie,
I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the
mosen.org site which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a 
try.
Ted


At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
>Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I
>paid with paypal, but I could not find a download link.
>
>Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Robbie
>
>millerrob...@comcast.net
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
>To: Viphone
>Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS
>11 when it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've
>participated in the public beta program since the very beginning,
>there were things I didn't even know about, or were not sure about,
>and now I do thanks to this book.
>All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> > On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >
> > Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
>It might be of particular interest to folks who have not
>participated in the beta program, but even those folks might learn a
>thing or two. I have used these books in the past, and found them to
>be quite helpful, as I like written documentation better than
>podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this post of course.
>Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is instantly
>available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
>You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you
>are interested.
> > Mary
> >
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Re: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

[Andy Baracco]

I don't think the 5th amendment would deter a thief.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:49 AM
Subject: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday


so the feature is called emergency SOS. It's been available on watches 
since 2016, but now it's coming to the iPhone. This allows you to press 
the power button five times in a row to call emergency services. There are 
two configurable options. The first is the default setting where it 
presents you with a dialog to choose if you want to proceed with your call 
or cancel out of it. You can enable auto dial and it will auto dial after 
three seconds. But there is something else that's cool that you can do 
with it. If anyone is ever trying to force you to use your finger print to 
unlock your phone, you can press the power button five times as long is 
auto dial is disabled. This will force one to enter your pen or password 
as if you just restarted your phone for that unlock session. the website I 
read used law enforcement as an example. Here in the US law enforcement 
can force you by warrant too use your finger print to give them access to 
your phone, however they can't force you to enter a pen or password. That 
would be a violation of your fifth amendment right. I've known some blind 
people who had over protective family members who would try to force them 
to give them access to their phones to get in their business. So this 
would be a way where only you could unlock the phone and no one could use 
your finger print to quickly gain access.


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Re: Smart battery case will it fit on the new iPhone 8 ?

[Andy Baracco]

It might fit, but are the controls in the same places?

Andy

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To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: Smart battery case will it fit on the new iPhone 8 ?


Hello, it should, as the iPhone 8 has a 4.7-inch display, just like the 6, 
6s and 7.

On 15 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Hi all,


Will my current smart battery case fit the standard iPhone 8 ?


Thanks,


Sadam Ahmed


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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[Billy Maynard]

hi robin,

thank you for your clarification.  I'll atleast have another year to keep my 
6+.  Like I said earlier face id will probly become the standard for hte 
iPhone and maybe next years moddle will be a little cheeper than 1,000 
dollars+.  Maybe the next phone moddle and ios 13 or hwat ever they call it 
(after ios 12)  will be good and I'll have to upgrade.


Sincerely,
B.J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Robin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: upgrading from a 6+



Clarification:
Apple generally used to ONLY provide Software Support for 3Years:
Apple introduced its Apple iPhone4S in October2011 with iOS5 & retired it 
in 2104, but Added an Extra Year of iOS updates because Apple iOS9 was 
viewed by The Company as a More Stable than its predecessor, iOS8

And, Now continues iOS support for 4Years   NOT 5Years

So the iPhone6 will Likely be retired ThisYear,2017 & receive its Last iOS 
update NextYear with iOS12


Just Sayin
At 11:26 PM 9/15/2017, you wrote:
Hello, Apple is the only company to provide hardware support for at least 
five years. From the information provided, you should be ok with the 6+ 
for at least three years including this one, in which iOS 11 will be 
definitely supported on the 6+.

> On 16 Sep 2017, at 03:59, Billy Maynard  wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading
to atleast an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder 
it'll support ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people 
mentioning on this list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any 
phone will take in ios before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is 
an expensive venture.  and I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue 
to support the ios versions.  Does anyone recall?

>
> Thanks for any help,
> Billy Maynard
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Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Mike B.]

Would you please post the correct URL for ordering the book?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released


Robbie,
I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the
mosen.org site which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a 
try.
Ted


At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
>Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I
>paid with paypal, but I could not find a download link.
>
>Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Robbie
>
>millerrob...@comcast.net
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
>To: Viphone
>Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS
>11 when it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've
>participated in the public beta program since the very beginning,
>there were things I didn't even know about, or were not sure about,
>and now I do thanks to this book.
>All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> > On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >
> > Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
>It might be of particular interest to folks who have not
>participated in the beta program, but even those folks might learn a
>thing or two. I have used these books in the past, and found them to
>be quite helpful, as I like written documentation better than
>podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this post of course.
>Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is instantly
>available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
>You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you
>are interested.
> > Mary
> >
> >
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Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Lois Butterfield]

I appreciate you sharing this.  I have ordered mine.

Thanks,
Lois

From: Cristóbal 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

Bluetooth enabled pressure cooker that is also a slow cooker, yogurt maker, 
rice maker and so on. It comes with in this case, an iOS app that is fully 
VoiceOver accessible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and what the 
app does?  I have never heard of it Janet

 

From: Caitlyn Furness 

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every penny!! 
 the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!! 

 

HTH,

Caitlyn

 

  On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

   

  Hello list,

  I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS 
app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired crowd 
for accessible cooking.

  I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual 
$160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.

  
https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth

   

  I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had 
accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price matching.

  IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.

   

  Cristobal

   

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Re: iOS 11 Information

[Mike B.]

Hi Kelby,

If this iOS 11 is for your phone, wouldn't it be a free update?
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Subject: iOS 11 Information


Hi all,


I'm pretty strapped for cash right now, so I can't afford to get a copy
of iOS 11 without the I. Is there a way I can find just a list of the
updates and new features in general?



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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Cristóbal]

Bluetooth enabled pressure cooker that is also a slow cooker, yogurt maker, 
rice maker and so on. It comes with in this case, an iOS app that is fully 
VoiceOver accessible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and what the 
app does?  I have never heard of it Janet

 

From: Caitlyn Furness 

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

 

We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every penny!! 
 the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!! 

 

HTH,

Caitlyn

 

On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  > wrote:

 

Hello list,

I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS 
app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired crowd 
for accessible cooking.

I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual $160 
to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.

 

 
https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth

 

I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had 
accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price matching.

IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.

 

Cristobal

 

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RE: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
If the equipment belongs to the employer, the employer has every right to the 
password.  Just like if a smart phone is provided for work, then the phone 
belongs to the employer and you are obligated to give them access, especially 
when you leave that employment.
In fact, putting anything personal on an employer's piece of equipment is ill 
advised at best.

If you work for the government, everything on a work device is also open to a 
public records request, meaning nothing is private.  Now, if it is your 
personal equipment, that is a completely different story unless you are using 
it for work tasks, which is also ill advised.  
.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

Gordon,

I have personally known of cases in the U.S. where a disgruntled employee was 
forced by court order to reveal a password to his former employer's computer 
system.  Are you saying that somehow your fifth amendment rights treat your 
entering the pin to your phone differently and so you cannot be forced to do 
this?  I have serious doubts that you are correct on this statement.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

so the feature is called emergency SOS. It's been available on watches 
since 2016, but now it's coming to the iPhone. This allows you to press 
the power button five times in a row to call emergency services. There 
are two configurable options. The first is the default setting where it 
presents you with a dialog to choose if you want to proceed with your 
call or cancel out of it. You can enable auto dial and it will auto dial 
after three seconds. But there is something else that's cool that you 
can do with it. If anyone is ever trying to force you to use your finger 
print to unlock your phone, you can press the power button five times as 
long is auto dial is disabled. This will force one to enter your pen or 
password as if you just restarted your phone for that unlock session. 
the website I read used law enforcement as an example. Here in the US 
law enforcement can force you by warrant too use your finger print to 
give them access to your phone, however they can't force you to enter a 
pen or password. That would be a violation of your fifth amendment 
right. I've known some blind people who had over protective family 
members who would try to force them to give them access to their phones 
to get in their business. So this would be a way where only you could 
unlock the phone and no one could use your finger print to quickly gain 
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Re: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

[Christopher Chaltain]

If we're talking about the resources of the employer then more then the 
5th ammendment may be involved here. Many employers have computer use 
agreements stating that the employer has access to anything you place on 
or use their equipment for. If such an agreement were in place then the 
5th ammendment may not apply.



I assume we're talking about the self incrimination clause of the 5th 
ammendment. I'm not sure why you could be compelled to use your 
fingerprint but not provide your PIN or password. It seems like they'd 
be as equally self incriminating.



A quick Google search lead to 
http://time.com/3558936/fingerprint-password-fifth-amendment/ where a 
court ruled that a fingerprint is a possession and therefore not covered 
by the 5th ammendment. Revealing a password or a PIN is considered 
testimony, so it is covered. Something tells me this won't be the last 
court ruling on whether the 5th ammendment applies to biometrics, 
especially as Apple and other companies use biometrics more and more to 
provide privacy and data protection.






On 09/16/2017 03:35 PM, Chip Orange wrote:

Gordon,

I have personally known of cases in the U.S. where a disgruntled employee was 
forced by court order to reveal a password to his former employer's computer 
system.  Are you saying that somehow your fifth amendment rights treat your 
entering the pin to your phone differently and so you cannot be forced to do 
this?  I have serious doubts that you are correct on this statement.

Chip


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Subject: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

so the feature is called emergency SOS. It's been available on watches
since 2016, but now it's coming to the iPhone. This allows you to press
the power button five times in a row to call emergency services. There
are two configurable options. The first is the default setting where it
presents you with a dialog to choose if you want to proceed with your
call or cancel out of it. You can enable auto dial and it will auto dial
after three seconds. But there is something else that's cool that you
can do with it. If anyone is ever trying to force you to use your finger
print to unlock your phone, you can press the power button five times as
long is auto dial is disabled. This will force one to enter your pen or
password as if you just restarted your phone for that unlock session.
the website I read used law enforcement as an example. Here in the US
law enforcement can force you by warrant too use your finger print to
give them access to your phone, however they can't force you to enter a
pen or password. That would be a violation of your fifth amendment
right. I've known some blind people who had over protective family
members who would try to force them to give them access to their phones
to get in their business. So this would be a way where only you could
unlock the phone and no one could use your finger print to quickly gain
access.



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Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Janet Bell]

please could someone initiate the uninitiated as to what this is and what the 
app does?  I have never heard of it Janet

From: Caitlyn Furness 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every penny!! 
 the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!! 

HTH,
Caitlyn

  On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

  Hello list,
  I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS 
app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired crowd 
for accessible cooking.
  I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual 
$160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.
  
https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth
   
  I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had 
accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price matching.
  IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.
   
  Cristobal

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Re: T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds

[Mary Otten]

I'm curious which watch you got and where you got it or I should say how. Did 
you call them and order or did you go through the T-Mobile store? I looked on 
the app and didn't find any means of ordering, but I guess you have to use the 
website. Also I'm sort of confused about the bands. Without being able to see 
them, it's hard to know what to get. I don't mean see, I mean in person touch.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 1:33 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Ok ok as you may have seen in my last message almost tripped out and
> canceled my order. I still am going to call them and find out the
> limitations the plan for the watch will have if any though.
> 
>> On 9/16/17, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> Phew!!
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good. My faith is somewhat restored. Smile.
>>> 
>>> T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds
>>> TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Apple Watch Series 3 comes with built-in LTE, but as MacRumors pointed
>>> out, T-Mobile's add-on $10 wearable plan limits devices to 512kb/s
>>> connections. Tonight T-Mobile CEO John Legere announced its plan for the
>>> Watch will include unlimited 4G LTE speeds, saying that "We always listen
>>> & act!" That should help keep things even among the US carriers for anyone
>>> picking up a new iPhone and/or wrist-worn accessory.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Original Article:
>>> https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/15/t-mobile-apple-watch-4g-lte-throttle/
>>> 
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Re: Lost speech when updating to iOS 11 GM.

[Woody Anna Dresner]

You can also ask Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then ask Siri to turn VoiceOver 
on again.

Best,
Anna



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> Turn on off voiceover. Try increasing the volume. Or resetting all settings .
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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[Robin]

Clarification:
Apple generally used to ONLY provide Software Support for 3Years:
Apple introduced its Apple iPhone4S in October2011 with iOS5 & 
retired it in 2104, but Added an Extra Year of iOS updates because 
Apple iOS9 was viewed by The Company as a More Stable than its 
predecessor, iOS8

And, Now continues iOS support for 4Years   NOT 5Years

So the iPhone6 will Likely be retired ThisYear,2017 & receive its 
Last iOS update NextYear with iOS12


Just Sayin
At 11:26 PM 9/15/2017, you wrote:
Hello, Apple is the only company to provide hardware support for at 
least five years. From the information provided, you should be ok 
with the 6+ for at least three years including this one, in which 
iOS 11 will be definitely supported on the 6+.

> On 16 Sep 2017, at 03:59, Billy Maynard  wrote:
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> hi,
>
> I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading 
to atleast an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and 
wonder it'll support ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to 
recall people mentioning on this list that there are generaly a 
number of upgrades any  phone will take in ios before they're not 
supported.  Upgrading phones is an expensive venture.  and I wonder 
how much longer my 6+ will continue to support the ios 
versions.  Does anyone recall?

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Re: Lost speech when updating to iOS 11 GM.

[marissasolaun]

Turn on off voiceover. Try increasing the volume. Or resetting all settings .

Question to the original poster I installed what I think is the GM but just 
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Re: Lost speech when updating to iOS 11 GM.

[Danny Keys]

Hello,
Try increasing the volume and see if this helps.
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Updated my iPhone to iOS 11 GM.
> 
> 
> When the device restarted I lost speech with VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> It seems it's running because I can hear the clicks but no voice is heard.
> 
> 
> Any ideas on how to become operational again?
> 
> 
> I could do a restore  but with find my iPhone enabled it may not go through.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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Lost speech when updating to iOS 11 GM.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,


Updated my iPhone to iOS 11 GM.


When the device restarted I lost speech with VoiceOver.


It seems it's running because I can hear the clicks but no voice is heard.


Any ideas on how to become operational again?


I could do a restore  but with find my iPhone enabled it may not go 
through.



Sincerely,


Sadam Ahmed


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RE: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

[Chip Orange]

Gordon,

I have personally known of cases in the U.S. where a disgruntled employee was 
forced by court order to reveal a password to his former employer's computer 
system.  Are you saying that somehow your fifth amendment rights treat your 
entering the pin to your phone differently and so you cannot be forced to do 
this?  I have serious doubts that you are correct on this statement.

Chip


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

so the feature is called emergency SOS. It's been available on watches 
since 2016, but now it's coming to the iPhone. This allows you to press 
the power button five times in a row to call emergency services. There 
are two configurable options. The first is the default setting where it 
presents you with a dialog to choose if you want to proceed with your 
call or cancel out of it. You can enable auto dial and it will auto dial 
after three seconds. But there is something else that's cool that you 
can do with it. If anyone is ever trying to force you to use your finger 
print to unlock your phone, you can press the power button five times as 
long is auto dial is disabled. This will force one to enter your pen or 
password as if you just restarted your phone for that unlock session. 
the website I read used law enforcement as an example. Here in the US 
law enforcement can force you by warrant too use your finger print to 
give them access to your phone, however they can't force you to enter a 
pen or password. That would be a violation of your fifth amendment 
right. I've known some blind people who had over protective family 
members who would try to force them to give them access to their phones 
to get in their business. So this would be a way where only you could 
unlock the phone and no one could use your finger print to quickly gain 
access.

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Re: T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds

[lenron brown]

Ok ok as you may have seen in my last message almost tripped out and
canceled my order. I still am going to call them and find out the
limitations the plan for the watch will have if any though.

On 9/16/17, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> Phew!!
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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>
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> Good. My faith is somewhat restored. Smile.
>>
>> T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds
>> TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
>>
>>
>>
>> The Apple Watch Series 3 comes with built-in LTE, but as MacRumors pointed
>> out, T-Mobile's add-on $10 wearable plan limits devices to 512kb/s
>> connections. Tonight T-Mobile CEO John Legere announced its plan for the
>> Watch will include unlimited 4G LTE speeds, saying that "We always listen
>> & act!" That should help keep things even among the US carriers for anyone
>> picking up a new iPhone and/or wrist-worn accessory.
>>
>>
>>
>> Original Article:
>> https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/15/t-mobile-apple-watch-4g-lte-throttle/
>>
>>
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RE: some audio book questions

[Chip Orange]

A, thanks Rus, I knew I had seen streaming somewhere.

Chip


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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:50 AM
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Subject: Re: some audio book questions

The only place where you can stream books from audible is with the amazon 
echo devices.

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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:45 PM
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Subject: RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, 
but I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).

Chip


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How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:44 PM
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Subject: RE: some audio book questions

No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the 
web site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download 
them to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they 
will work even if I am out of cell range.

Chip


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Barton
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Subject: Re: some audio book questions

Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does 
it work, you download them and they just come to your phone?
I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:
> Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is
> really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app
> or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works as 
> well on Windows.
>
> Another site for MP3 audio books is:
>
> https://www.downpour.com/
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Jed Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: some audio book questions
>
> Hey guys,
>
> OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is
> the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books
> accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to
> buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you recommend 
> for apps?
>
> Cheers,
> Jed
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RE: Working with .docx files on an iPhone

[Richard Turner]

If you have a MicroSoft account and especially if you have Office 365, the Word 
app for iDevices works reasonably well if you use a Bluetooth keyboard.
It is a bit tricky to always know where you are in the document, but it can be 
done.

At least basic editing.

Richard


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Subject: Working with .docx files on an iPhone

Hi,


What is the best app, hopefully free, that will allow the reading and 
editing of the .docx, Microsoft word, files on an iPhone 6S running iOS 
10.3?


Thanks,

~Ann

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Re: Question about controlling your Mac computer with voice

[TaraPrakash]

Hi Anne  and All 

Thank you for your responses. What would be the shortcut key for activating 
Siri? Or is there an option like hey Siri on computer as well?
When you are typing or editing a document,  how do you reach the dictation 
utility? Is there a key combination for that as well?

Regards

TP


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> The Mac can be almost entirely controlled by voice. The Accessibility panel 
> in System Preferences shows the built-in commands for dictation and offers 
> the possibility of configuring ones own commands to simulate key combinations.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2017, at 23:54, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Is there  a Siri kind of option for a Mac computer. 
>> 
>> And if you cannot control the computer,  is it possible to give dictation  
>> on a word  editor?   I'm sure dragon would have  an application for  Mac   
>> But   Is there a built in utility on Mac computer for dictation?
>> I would appreciate your suggestion. I know somebody who recently met with a 
>> serious  accident and would be able to   Use his computer if there  was such 
>> a utility 
>> 
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Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Caitlyn Furness]

We had to pay way more for this in Canada, but I think it’s worth every penny!! 
 the food comes out great, and the app is indeed, very accessible!!

HTH,
Caitlyn

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS 
> app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired 
> crowd for accessible cooking.
> I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual 
> $160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.
> https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth
>  
> 
>  
> I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had 
> accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you 
> don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price 
> matching.
> IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been 
> thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.
>  
> Cristobal
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Re: Apple Watch question

[Peter Logan]

Yes ...

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello Robin,

You're welcome. I hope the instructions worked for you.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 16, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Thanks as always for your insightful contributions. They’re always 
> appreciated by me and I’m sure others as well.
> Take good care.
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Woody Anna Dresner <>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List <>
> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Russ, yes, itunes file sharing still works.
>  
> Robin, yes, you can get custom ringtones on and off your phone. When your 
> phone is attached, find the list of items that starts with Summary, and move 
> down to the part of the list that shows what's on your phone. You'll 
> eventually get to Tones. You can delete one from there to remove it. To add 
> one, find it on your system, use the Copy command, go back to iTunes where it 
> says Tones, and paste. This works on a Mac, so I think it will also work in 
> Windows.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Robin Frost > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Anna,
>> Have you worked with how one deals with custom ringtones under the new 
>> iTunes? I’m curious how one either gets them on or off one’s phone if anyone 
>> knows.  I haven’t tried yet but do have some tones that I did not get from 
>> Apple’s store that I use from time to time so was just curious.
>> Take good care.
>> Robin
>>  
>>  
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <>
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:22 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <>
>> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> File sharing is still there. When your iPHOne is connected, it's one of the 
>> options in the list, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > wrote:
>>>  
>>> I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there 
>>> seems to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the 
>>> sidebar, then I turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have 
>>> the same interface it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, 
>>> artist and album and then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected 
>>> anything in any of the 3 columns only the songs which apply.
>>> There are now only 5 media types as follows:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
>>> Movies, Control+2 also as before
>>> TV Shows, Control+3 as before
>>> Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
>>> Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I 
>>> think was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this 
>>> announcement in the future.
>>> You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know 
>>> these are now gone.
>>> I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more 
>>> accessible as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column 
>>> with genres so to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., 
>>> then the second column is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out 
>>> what the names here are, but after that I have a nice listview just as with 
>>> songs where all my movies appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the 
>>> title and a brief summary of the movie.
>>> When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek 
>>> Voyager Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them 
>>> together, but the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and 
>>> then again 1 to 26 for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with 
>>> episode number and title.
>>> I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it 
>>> asked me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the 
>>> information there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am 
>>> subscribed to using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can 
>>> arrow up and down through the episodes and have buttons for default 
>>> settings, settings and more, it all seems to be fine.
>>> Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and 
>>> seem accessible.
>>> I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but 
>>> I’ll do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far 
>>> as the library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than 
>>> before especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books 
>>> sections.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  <> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>> For those having trouble accessing your music in the new 

Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I ordered my copy yesterday.  I will be giving this a read myself as I will be 
upgrading my ipod touch so thanks for that.

Matthew



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On 9/16/17, 2:54 AM, "christopher hallsworth"  wrote:

Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 when 
it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've participated in 
the public beta program since the very beginning, there were things I didn't 
even know about, or were not sure about, and now I do thanks to this book. All 
will be revealed from Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye. 
It might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the 
beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used 
these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like written 
documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this 
post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is 
instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday. You can 
go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are interested.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Instant Pot Bluetooth on sale

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I know this item has come up on the list in the past due to its apparent iOS
app accessibility and seems to be a favorite among the visually impaired
crowd for accessible cooking.

I noticed earlier today that the Bluetooth model is on sale from its usual
$160 to $128 on Amazon. IN case anyone’s been interested in getting one.

https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Bluetooth-Multi-Use-Programmable/dp/B00N3
10CKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
 =1505586921=8-1=instant+pot+bluetooth

 

I was able to price match with BestBuy and applied some rewards points I had
accumulated to get it down to $80, but still $128 isn’t a bad price if you
don’t have some BestBuy gift cards on hand to go along with the price
matching.

IN any event, just thought I’d throw out this PSA for those who have been
thinking of getting one but were holding off because of the price.

 

Cristobal

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Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

[Robin Frost]

Hi Anna,
Thanks as always for your insightful contributions. They’re always appreciated 
by me and I’m sure others as well.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Woody Anna Dresner 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:10 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Hello,

Russ, yes, itunes file sharing still works.

Robin, yes, you can get custom ringtones on and off your phone. When your phone 
is attached, find the list of items that starts with Summary, and move down to 
the part of the list that shows what's on your phone. You'll eventually get to 
Tones. You can delete one from there to remove it. To add one, find it on your 
system, use the Copy command, go back to iTunes where it says Tones, and paste. 
This works on a Mac, so I think it will also work in Windows.

Best,
Anna



  On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

  Hi Anna,
  Have you worked with how one deals with custom ringtones under the new 
iTunes? I’m curious how one either gets them on or off one’s phone if anyone 
knows.  I haven’t tried yet but do have some tones that I did not get from 
Apple’s store that I use from time to time so was just curious.
  Take good care.
  Robin


  From: Woody Anna Dresner 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:22 PM
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

  Hi, 

  File sharing is still there. When your iPHOne is connected, it's one of the 
options in the list, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.

  Best,
  Anna

On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there 
seems to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the sidebar, 
then I turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have the same 
interface it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, artist and 
album and then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected anything in any 
of the 3 columns only the songs which apply.
There are now only 5 media types as follows:
 
 
Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
Movies, Control+2 also as before
TV Shows, Control+3 as before
Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I 
think was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this 
announcement in the future.
You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know 
these are now gone.
I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more 
accessible as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column 
with genres so to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., then 
the second column is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out what the 
names here are, but after that I have a nice listview just as with songs where 
all my movies appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the title and a 
brief summary of the movie.
When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek 
Voyager Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them 
together, but the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and then 
again 1 to 26 for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with episode 
number and title.
I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it 
asked me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the 
information there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am 
subscribed to using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can arrow up 
and down through the episodes and have buttons for default settings, settings 
and more, it all seems to be fine.
Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and 
seem accessible.
I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but 
I’ll do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far as 
the library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than before 
especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books sections.
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
 
For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for 
me.
 
Richard
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
 
From the article I saw posted, I 

Working with .docx files on an iPhone

[Ann]

Hi,


What is the best app, hopefully free, that will allow the reading and 
editing of the .docx, Microsoft word, files on an iPhone 6S running iOS 
10.3?



Thanks,

~Ann

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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[Billy Maynard]

hi chris,

thank you. I hope in 3 years the face id and other features will be standard 
and cheeper. When I upgrade I usualy try to get the best and biggest since 
it'll likely have to last me for years but, the 1 k price on the X moddle is 
kindof steep and I figure that's the 64 gig moddle the 257 is probly more 
expensive.  but, I have 2 more years  for them to make it  more standard and 
I hope cheeper.  Though who knows in 3 years what storage limits reach or 
what inovations apple will come up with.
- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading from a 6+


Hello, Apple is the only company to provide hardware support for at least 
five years. From the information provided, you should be ok with the 6+ for 
at least three years including this one, in which iOS 11 will be definitely 
supported on the 6+.

On 16 Sep 2017, at 03:59, Billy Maynard  wrote:

hi,

I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading to 
atleast an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder it'll 
support ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people 
mentioning on this list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any 
phone will take in ios before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is 
an expensive venture.  and I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue to 
support the ios versions.  Does anyone recall?


Thanks for any help,
Billy Maynard
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RE: Apple Watch question

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

And, if you don't want to run the risk of it talking so it disturbs others, you 
can turn the volume of the speech down to 1 %, which is barely audible to me 
when I hold the watch to my ear at this level. Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:17 PM
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Hi Richard,

If you tap the screen twice, the watch vibrates the hours and minutes. If you 
tap three times, it just does the minutes. Once in a while, it talks instead, 
but this feature usually works.

Best,
Anna



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Re: Apple Watch question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Richard,

If you tap the screen twice, the watch vibrates the hours and minutes. If you 
tap three times, it just does the minutes. Once in a while, it talks instead, 
but this feature usually works.

Best,
Anna



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Apple Watch question

[Richard Turner]

A friend who is not on this list is considering the Apple Watch.  She doesn't 
like talking watches.  Is there a way to have it vibrate for the time?  Or is 
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Re: iOS 11 Information

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello Kelby,

appleVis will put up a summary of the changes, I'm sure, and there are bound to 
be lots of podcasts as well.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 16, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I'm pretty strapped for cash right now, so I can't afford to get a copy of 
> iOS 11 without the I. Is there a way I can find just a list of the updates 
> and new features in general?
> 
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Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Paul Ferrara]

All, I had trouble with the link for the PDF version so I downloaded the zip 
file then opened the file from downloads.

That worked quite well.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Donna Neff

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Robbie,

Just wanted to say, you are not alone. I found a link but couldn't download 
the book. Hopefully, someone here can help.


Good luck to both of us.

Donna

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Ted Filteau  wrote:

Robbie,
I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the mosen.org 
site which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a try.

Ted


At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I paid 
with paypal, but I could not find a download link.


Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net


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Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of christopher hallsworth

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 
when it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've 
participated in the public beta program since the very beginning, there 
were things I didn't even know about, or were not sure about, and now I 
do thanks to this book.

All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the 
> eye.
It might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in 
the beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have 
used these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I 
like written documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any 
money off of this post of course. Just passing along the info. The book 
is $19.95 and is instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 
next Tuesday.
You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are 
interested.

> Mary
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iOS 11 Information

[Kelby Carlson]

Hi all,


I'm pretty strapped for cash right now, so I can't afford to get a copy 
of iOS 11 without the I. Is there a way I can find just a list of the 
updates and new features in general?




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RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Robbie Miller]

Hi, I just got my book!

Thanks to Jonathon and all!

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Neff
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Robbie,

Just wanted to say, you are not alone. I found a link but couldn't download the 
book. Hopefully, someone here can help.

Good luck to both of us.

Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Ted Filteau  wrote:
> 
> Robbie,
> I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the mosen.org site 
> which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a try.
> Ted
> 
> 
> At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I paid with 
>> paypal, but I could not find a download link.
>> 
>> Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Robbie
>> 
>> millerrob...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>> 
>> Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
>> To: Viphone
>> Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>> 
>> Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 when 
>> it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've participated in 
>> the public beta program since the very beginning, there were things I didn't 
>> even know about, or were not sure about, and now I do thanks to this book.
>> All will be revealed from Tuesday.
>> > On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >
>> > Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
>> It might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the 
>> beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used 
>> these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like 
>> written documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money 
>> off of this post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 
>> and is instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
>> You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are 
>> interested.
>> > Mary
>> >
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Re: wireless charging

[regina alvarado]

Lois, I will be getting an 8 Plus. Will these work with the 8 Plus or do I need 
another kind. Understand why you need an adapter for other phones, but will I 
need the adapter with the 8 Plus. Thanks for any help you or anyone else can 
give me with wireless charging. I know on the apple roll out Belkin was 
mennameed, but this is much cheaper if it works.
On Sep 16, 2017, at 4:03 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Lois,
Thank you for sending me these links. I shall take a look…
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 15 Sep 2017, at 11:21, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  
> The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
> fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway. 
>  
> I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
> the adapter all the time.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>  
> Lois,
> You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
>> IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
>> lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone 
>> charge wirelessly.
>>  
>> I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
>> into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.
>>  
>> By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
>> charging pads for just over $10.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hi Chris,
>>  
>> I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
>> which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
>> exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
>> hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
>> have to plug in a wire.
>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
>> wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
>> charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a 
>> charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
>> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
>> this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable 
>> and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as 
>> they call it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe 
>> Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all 
>> three devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes 
>> by this may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
>> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
>> wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to 
>> make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide 
>> variety of devices to compliment it.
>>  
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
>> advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to 
>> place the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This 
>> is not remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about 
>> more gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the 
>> wire, we will need to also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging 
>> to work. 
>> I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would 
>> not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am 
>> not sure I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or 
>> café, or in an airport 

Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello,

Russ, yes, itunes file sharing still works.

Robin, yes, you can get custom ringtones on and off your phone. When your phone 
is attached, find the list of items that starts with Summary, and move down to 
the part of the list that shows what's on your phone. You'll eventually get to 
Tones. You can delete one from there to remove it. To add one, find it on your 
system, use the Copy command, go back to iTunes where it says Tones, and paste. 
This works on a Mac, so I think it will also work in Windows.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Have you worked with how one deals with custom ringtones under the new 
> iTunes? I’m curious how one either gets them on or off one’s phone if anyone 
> knows.  I haven’t tried yet but do have some tones that I did not get from 
> Apple’s store that I use from time to time so was just curious.
> Take good care.
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Woody Anna Dresner <>
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:22 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List <>
> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> Hi,
>  
> File sharing is still there. When your iPHOne is connected, it's one of the 
> options in the list, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > wrote:
>>  
>> I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there 
>> seems to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the sidebar, 
>> then I turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have the same 
>> interface it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, artist and 
>> album and then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected anything in 
>> any of the 3 columns only the songs which apply.
>> There are now only 5 media types as follows:
>>  
>>  
>> Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
>> Movies, Control+2 also as before
>> TV Shows, Control+3 as before
>> Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
>> Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I 
>> think was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this 
>> announcement in the future.
>> You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know 
>> these are now gone.
>> I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more 
>> accessible as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column 
>> with genres so to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., then 
>> the second column is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out what 
>> the names here are, but after that I have a nice listview just as with songs 
>> where all my movies appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the title 
>> and a brief summary of the movie.
>> When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek 
>> Voyager Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them 
>> together, but the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and 
>> then again 1 to 26 for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with 
>> episode number and title.
>> I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it 
>> asked me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the 
>> information there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am 
>> subscribed to using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can arrow 
>> up and down through the episodes and have buttons for default settings, 
>> settings and more, it all seems to be fine.
>> Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and seem 
>> accessible.
>> I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but 
>> I’ll do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far 
>> as the library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than 
>> before especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books 
>> sections.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  <> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <>] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>  
>> For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
>> At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for 
>> me.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <>] On 
>> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>  
>> From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer 
>> use itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes 
>> file sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: 

RE: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

[Richard Turner]

Russ,
Well, one could say it is accessible with Jaws if you are an extremely patient 
person.
With your device plugged in:
Get to the spot where it says "summary"
Arrow down until you get to file sharing.
Tab many, many times to the list of apps that can use file sharing.
Jaws on my system was extremely slow in reading app names, but once you get 
there arrow down, slowly, very slowly, until you get to Voice Dream.
Then, tab many more times to the add file button.
Arrow down and right until you get to the file you want, then tab a bunch to 
the open button and hit space.
You can count on Jaws losing focus at least once in this process, at least my 
system did.
After you hit open, your file should appear in whatever folder you had open on 
Voice Dream.

Why in hell they don't have hot keys to jump to these things is beyond me.
I will stick with putting things on Dropbox or OneDrive and importing them into 
Voice Dream that way.  This is stupid!
I'm usually a very patient person, but this is a perfect example of how Apple 
works on Windows.  I hope it is easier for those using Macs.

Richard

Then, shift tab to your drive list and plan to find your drive where it says 
closed, arrow right to open.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch 
using iTunes 12.7

The reason I ask, I want to make sure I can still use itunes file sharing to 
import content into voice dream reader before updating to itunes 12.7.

-Original Message- 
From: Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:34 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7

Hi Russ,

On the Mac, accessing the parts that are still there is about as easy as it 
was before; it's just that some parts of the app are missing.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>
> Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it? 
> My question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?
>
> -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
> touch using iTunes 12.7
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list 
> of content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>
>> Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file 
>> sharing to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I 
>> stillbe be able to do this with itunes 12.7?
>>
>> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
>> touch using iTunes 12.7
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
>> following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
>>
>> The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
>> manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes
>>
>> You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS 
>> device.
>>
>> With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
>> manually syncing specific items to your device.
>>
>> If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you can't manually manage 
>> music,
>> but you can still manage videos using the steps below.
>>
>> Manually add items from iTunes
>> 1.Connect your device to your computer.
>> 2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
>> 3.Choose the content that you want to add to your device from your iTunes
>> library.
>> 4.Look in the left sidebar for your device, then drag the content to your
>> iPhone, iPad, or iPod.
>>
>> If you're using an iPhone, you can add music or videos only from a single
>> iTunes Library.
>>
>> If you're using an iPad or iPod, you can add music from multiple iTunes
>> Libraries, but videos from only one iTunes Library.
>>
>> If you can't manually add or remove content from your device
>>
>> Check to make sure that the "Manually manage music and videos" option is
>> turned on:
>> 1.Connect your device to your computer.
>> 2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
>> 3.Locate and click on your device.
>>
>> 4.In the left sidebar, click Summary.
>> 5.Scroll to the Options section.
>> 6.Click the box next to "Manually manage music and videos."
>> 7.Click Apply.
>>
>> You might see a message that your device is 

Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Donna Neff]

Robbie,

Just wanted to say, you are not alone. I found a link but couldn't download the 
book. Hopefully, someone here can help.

Good luck to both of us.

Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Ted Filteau  wrote:
> 
> Robbie,
> I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the mosen.org site 
> which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a try.
> Ted
> 
> 
> At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I paid with 
>> paypal, but I could not find a download link.
>> 
>> Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Robbie
>> 
>> millerrob...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jeremy Gilley
>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>> 
>> Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
>> To: Viphone
>> Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>> 
>> Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 when 
>> it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've participated in 
>> the public beta program since the very beginning, there were things I didn't 
>> even know about, or were not sure about, and now I do thanks to this book.
>> All will be revealed from Tuesday.
>> > On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >
>> > Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
>> It might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the 
>> beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used 
>> these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like 
>> written documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money 
>> off of this post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 
>> and is instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
>> You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are 
>> interested.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[Nimer Jaber]

Actually, the iPhone X will have the same processor as the iPhone 8 and 8+.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:34 AM Anthony Vece  wrote:

> I think the Apple Watch is the Braille watch of the 21st century.
>
> The AirPods for me are the best sounding of there kind, although that is
> subjective.
> And, the iPhone X will have the faster processor.
>
>
> > On Sep 16, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have made the decision to go from a 6+ to the 10.
> > Only because my current phone has been giving me way too many problems,
> and
> > I am just tired of the frustrations.
> > I have reset my phone to many times too count, and even apple support is
> > shaking their heads.
> > So, time for me to get the bump.
> > I figure sense I am getting the new phone, for me at least, I Mize well
> go
> > for the jump to the 10.
> > Currently, I can't think of the 10 this year being that much different
> then
> > what they might come out with next year.
> > So, I see myself getting the 10, and probably skipping a year or so until
> > something new completely blows my mind and I absolutely want that phone
> lol.
> > Also picking up a new watch next week and the air pods.
> > I am really needing the watch for the fitness stuff, and I think its
> time I
> > invest in a watch.
> > I hadn't bothered until now, and with this new one, its time for me to
> take
> > a look at them.
> > With me active in sports, getting a watch will help me keep track of a
> few
> > things.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Billy Maynard
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:00 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: upgrading from a 6+
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading to
> atleast
> > an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder it'll support
> > ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people mentioning on
> > this list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any  phone will
> take
> > in ios before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is an expensive
> > venture.  and I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue to support the
> > ios versions.  Does anyone recall?
> >
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Billy Maynard
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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[Anthony Vece]

I think the Apple Watch is the Braille watch of the 21st century.

The AirPods for me are the best sounding of there kind, although that is 
subjective.
And, the iPhone X will have the faster processor.


> On Sep 16, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have made the decision to go from a 6+ to the 10.
> Only because my current phone has been giving me way too many problems, and
> I am just tired of the frustrations.
> I have reset my phone to many times too count, and even apple support is
> shaking their heads.
> So, time for me to get the bump.
> I figure sense I am getting the new phone, for me at least, I Mize well go
> for the jump to the 10.
> Currently, I can't think of the 10 this year being that much different then
> what they might come out with next year.
> So, I see myself getting the 10, and probably skipping a year or so until
> something new completely blows my mind and I absolutely want that phone lol.
> Also picking up a new watch next week and the air pods.
> I am really needing the watch for the fitness stuff, and I think its time I
> invest in a watch.
> I hadn't bothered until now, and with this new one, its time for me to take
> a look at them.
> With me active in sports, getting a watch will help me keep track of a few
> things.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Billy Maynard
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: upgrading from a 6+
> 
> hi,
> 
> I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading to atleast 
> an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder it'll support 
> ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people mentioning on 
> this list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any  phone will take 
> in ios before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is an expensive 
> venture.  and I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue to support the 
> ios versions.  Does anyone recall?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Billy Maynard 
> 
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RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Donald Moore]

Once you paid for the book, the next screen gives the link, although you should 
have received an email with the link and the special code do get the next 
edition.  Mine worked the first time.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ted Filteau
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Robbie,
I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the mosen.org site 
which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a try.
Ted


At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
>Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I 
>paid with paypal, but I could not find a download link.
>
>Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Robbie
>
>millerrob...@comcast.net
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
>To: Viphone
>Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released
>
>Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 
>11 when it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've 
>participated in the public beta program since the very beginning, 
>there were things I didn't even know about, or were not sure about, 
>and now I do thanks to this book.
>All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> > On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >
> > Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
>It might be of particular interest to folks who have not 
>participated in the beta program, but even those folks might learn a 
>thing or two. I have used these books in the past, and found them to 
>be quite helpful, as I like written documentation better than 
>podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this post of course. 
>Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is instantly 
>available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
>You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you 
>are interested.
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Ted Filteau]

Robbie,
I had a similar experience.  There is a contact us link on the 
mosen.org site which I filled out, and I now have the book.  Give this a try.

Ted


At 11:04 AM 9/16/2017, you wrote:
Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I 
paid with paypal, but I could not find a download link.


Any help on getting my download will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of christopher hallsworth

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 
11 when it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've 
participated in the public beta program since the very beginning, 
there were things I didn't even know about, or were not sure about, 
and now I do thanks to this book.

All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
It might be of particular interest to folks who have not 
participated in the beta program, but even those folks might learn a 
thing or two. I have used these books in the past, and found them to 
be quite helpful, as I like written documentation better than 
podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this post of course. 
Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is instantly 
available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you 
are interested.

> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Robbie Miller]

Hi, I bought this book yesterday, but never got a download link. I paid with 
paypal, but I could not find a download link. 

Any help on getting my download will be appreciated. 

Thanks.

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net


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Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?

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christopher hallsworth
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 when 
it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've participated in 
the public beta program since the very beginning, there were things I didn't 
even know about, or were not sure about, and now I do thanks to this book.
All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
It might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the 
beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used 
these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like written 
documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this 
post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is 
instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are 
interested.
> Mary
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Re: T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds

[Pete Nalda]

Phew!!  

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Good. My faith is somewhat restored. Smile.
> 
> T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds
> TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
> 
> 
> 
> The Apple Watch Series 3 comes with built-in LTE, but as MacRumors pointed 
> out, T-Mobile's add-on $10 wearable plan limits devices to 512kb/s 
> connections. Tonight T-Mobile CEO John Legere announced its plan for the 
> Watch will include unlimited 4G LTE speeds, saying that "We always listen & 
> act!" That should help keep things even among the US carriers for anyone 
> picking up a new iPhone and/or wrist-worn accessory.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/15/t-mobile-apple-watch-4g-lte-throttle/
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Re: some audio book questions

[Russ Kiehne]

The only place where you can stream books from audible is with the amazon 
echo devices.


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From: Chip Orange

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, 
but I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).


Chip


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How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.


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No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the 
web site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download 
them to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they 
will work even if I am out of cell range.


Chip


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Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does 
it work, you download them and they just come to your phone?

I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:

Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is
really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app
or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works as 
well on Windows.


Another site for MP3 audio books is:

https://www.downpour.com/


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Subject: some audio book questions

Hey guys,

OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is
the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books
accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to
buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you recommend 
for apps?


Cheers,
Jed

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Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

[Russ Kiehne]

The reason I ask, I want to make sure I can still use itunes file sharing to 
import content into voice dream reader before updating to itunes 12.7.


-Original Message- 
From: Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:34 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7


Hi Russ,

On the Mac, accessing the parts that are still there is about as easy as it 
was before; it's just that some parts of the app are missing.


Best,
Anna




On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it? 
My question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?


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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7


Hi Russ,

Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list 
of content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.


Best,
Anna




On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file 
sharing to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I 
stillbe be able to do this with itunes 12.7?


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Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7


Hello Everyone,

As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.

The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:

Mark

Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes

You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS 
device.


With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
manually syncing specific items to your device.

If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you can't manually manage 
music,

but you can still manage videos using the steps below.

Manually add items from iTunes
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.Choose the content that you want to add to your device from your iTunes
library.
4.Look in the left sidebar for your device, then drag the content to your
iPhone, iPad, or iPod.

If you're using an iPhone, you can add music or videos only from a single
iTunes Library.

If you're using an iPad or iPod, you can add music from multiple iTunes
Libraries, but videos from only one iTunes Library.

If you can't manually add or remove content from your device

Check to make sure that the "Manually manage music and videos" option is
turned on:
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.Locate and click on your device.

4.In the left sidebar, click Summary.
5.Scroll to the Options section.
6.Click the box next to "Manually manage music and videos."
7.Click Apply.

You might see a message that your device is synced with another library.
This means that you've used a different computer to sync your device in 
the
past, and iTunes can't sync without first erasing and replacing all 
iTunes

content on your device.

Manually add items from your computer

If you have media on your computer that you can't redownload from the App
Store or iTunes Store directly on your iOS device, such as custom 
ringtones
or iOS apps, you can drag and drop the media from your computer to your 
iOS

device using iTunes.
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.On your computer, find the item you want to add to your device. If 
you're
looking for Apps, Tones, or Books (for Windows) that previously appeared 
in

your iTunes library, you can find them in your iTunes media folder.
4.Drag the item from your computer to your iOS device in the left sidebar 
of

iTunes.

Published Date: Sep 12, 2017

Original Article at:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201593


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Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

[Russ Kiehne]

I would be interested in knowing if itunes file sharing is accessible with jaws?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there seems 
to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the sidebar, then I 
turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have the same interface 
it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, artist and album and 
then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected anything in any of the 3 
columns only the songs which apply.

There are now only 5 media types as follows:

 

 

Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always

Movies, Control+2 also as before

TV Shows, Control+3 as before

Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same

Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I think 
was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this announcement 
in the future.

You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know these 
are now gone.

I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more accessible 
as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column with genres so 
to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., then the second column 
is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out what the names here are, 
but after that I have a nice listview just as with songs where all my movies 
appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the title and a brief summary of 
the movie.

When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek Voyager 
Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them together, but 
the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and then again 1 to 26 
for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with episode number and title.

I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it asked 
me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the information 
there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am subscribed to 
using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can arrow up and down 
through the episodes and have buttons for default settings, settings and more, 
it all seems to be fine.

Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and seem 
accessible.

I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but I’ll 
do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far as the 
library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than before 
especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books sections.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

 

For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.

At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for me.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

 

From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer use 
itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes file 
sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

 

Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

 

Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

 

The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so that 
part won’t be changed would be my interpretation. I think there would be a 
pretty big outcry if Apple did not at all allow users to add their own 
ringtones.

As for the app store in iTunes, well, I haven’t used that to manage apps in a 
long time so as far as I am concerned I won’t miss it. Yes, I know that some 
Voiceover users like to make sure they have backup copies of apps in case a new 
update breaks accessibility and this just means set app updates to manual on 
the iPhone and let somebody else take the plunge first if you are really 
concerned.

What the author said about developing countries and bandwwidth 

Re: Question about controlling your Mac computer with voice

[Anne Robertson]

The Mac can be almost entirely controlled by voice. The Accessibility panel in 
System Preferences shows the built-in commands for dictation and offers the 
possibility of configuring ones own commands to simulate key combinations.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Hi all
> 
> Is there  a Siri kind of option for a Mac computer. 
> 
> And if you cannot control the computer,  is it possible to give dictation  on 
> a word  editor?   I'm sure dragon would have  an application for  Mac   But   
> Is there a built in utility on Mac computer for dictation?
> I would appreciate your suggestion. I know somebody who recently met with a 
> serious  accident and would be able to   Use his computer if there  was such 
> a utility 
> 
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RE: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[Jeremy Gilley]

Is this an eBook that I can download from Ibooks app?

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Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:55 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 when
it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've participated in
the public beta program since the very beginning, there were things I didn't
even know about, or were not sure about, and now I do thanks to this book.
All will be revealed from Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye.
It might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the
beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used
these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like
written documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money
off of this post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95
and is instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday.
You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are
interested.
> Mary
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RE: upgrading from a 6+

[Jeremy Gilley]

Hello all,

I have made the decision to go from a 6+ to the 10.
Only because my current phone has been giving me way too many problems, and
I am just tired of the frustrations.
I have reset my phone to many times too count, and even apple support is
shaking their heads.
So, time for me to get the bump.
I figure sense I am getting the new phone, for me at least, I Mize well go
for the jump to the 10.
Currently, I can't think of the 10 this year being that much different then
what they might come out with next year.
So, I see myself getting the 10, and probably skipping a year or so until
something new completely blows my mind and I absolutely want that phone lol.
Also picking up a new watch next week and the air pods.
I am really needing the watch for the fitness stuff, and I think its time I
invest in a watch.
I hadn't bothered until now, and with this new one, its time for me to take
a look at them.
With me active in sports, getting a watch will help me keep track of a few
things.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: upgrading from a 6+

hi,

I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading to atleast 
an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder it'll support 
ios 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people mentioning on 
this list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any  phone will take 
in ios before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is an expensive 
venture.  and I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue to support the 
ios versions.  Does anyone recall?

Thanks for any help,
Billy Maynard 

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RE: advanced search not working in outlook for windows

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I’m encountering the same issue of the advanced feature in Outlook 2016 no 
longer working.  I’m going to call Microsoft Accessibility at 800-936-5900 and 
see what I can learn.

Sorry for the off topic post, but I didn’t know where else to send it.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY

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Iphone question

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Hi everyone,
Is there any way you could tell if your iphone had been hacked in to? Thanks 
for your help. 

Sent from my iPhone

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A cool feature you'll see in IOS 11 on Tuesday

[Gordon]

so the feature is called emergency SOS. It's been available on watches 
since 2016, but now it's coming to the iPhone. This allows you to press 
the power button five times in a row to call emergency services. There 
are two configurable options. The first is the default setting where it 
presents you with a dialog to choose if you want to proceed with your 
call or cancel out of it. You can enable auto dial and it will auto dial 
after three seconds. But there is something else that's cool that you 
can do with it. If anyone is ever trying to force you to use your finger 
print to unlock your phone, you can press the power button five times as 
long is auto dial is disabled. This will force one to enter your pen or 
password as if you just restarted your phone for that unlock session. 
the website I read used law enforcement as an example. Here in the US 
law enforcement can force you by warrant too use your finger print to 
give them access to your phone, however they can't force you to enter a 
pen or password. That would be a violation of your fifth amendment 
right. I've known some blind people who had over protective family 
members who would try to force them to give them access to their phones 
to get in their business. So this would be a way where only you could 
unlock the phone and no one could use your finger print to quickly gain 
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Re: wireless charging

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Lois,
Thank you for sending me these links. I shall take a look…
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 15 Sep 2017, at 11:21, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  
> The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
> fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway. 
>  
> I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
> the adapter all the time.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>  
> Lois,
> You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
>> IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
>> lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone 
>> charge wirelessly.
>>  
>> I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
>> into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.
>>  
>> By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
>> charging pads for just over $10.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hi Chris,
>>  
>> I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
>> which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
>> exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
>> hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
>> have to plug in a wire.
>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
>> wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
>> charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a 
>> charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
>> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
>> this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable 
>> and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as 
>> they call it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe 
>> Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all 
>> three devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes 
>> by this may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
>> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
>> wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to 
>> make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide 
>> variety of devices to compliment it.
>>  
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
>> advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to 
>> place the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This 
>> is not remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about 
>> more gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the 
>> wire, we will need to also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging 
>> to work. 
>> I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would 
>> not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am 
>> not sure I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or 
>> café, or in an airport terminal.  Unless the wireless charging pad is on my 
>> table or on the arm of my chair, I would not use it.
>> Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it 
>> better to me?
>> Cheers,
>> Cris
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Re: Braille Display command trouble

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, GM stands for "gold master", ideally you should update to that rather 
than staying with a beta, as the GM is predicted to be the final release which 
the public should get as of Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 16:17, Diane  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure what those letters mean.  All I know is that my friend sent me 
> the link for the bata of IOS 11 so that I could get all the little updates 
> between the full update of 10 and 11.  Since next Tuesday is the full update 
> of 11, this is the final bata in my phone.  I don't know any other technical 
> thing about it.
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "Viphone" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Braille Display command trouble
> 
> 
> You say "final update beta". Does this mean the GM? Just curious as that's 
> what I'm running now on all my devices.
> 
>> On 13 Sep 2017, at 12:12, Diane  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the final bata update right now.  Expecting to download from Apple 
>> IOS 11 next week.
>>> - Original Message - From: Melissa Tucker
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Braille Display command trouble
>>> 
>>> I think i have an answer, but what version of ios are you using?
>>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Diane  wrote:
>>> 
>>>I think this is the group I should ask 
>>> this question of, so here goes.
>>> 
>>> I have a folder of song lyrics in dropbox in access note.  Each song is an 
>>> individual file.  My church naturally has an overhead which everyone else 
>>> can read.  I got the lyrics for the song so that I could follow along and 
>>> sing with them.  By the way, this happens even if the folder is just in the 
>>> dropbox.  I tried it within access note and regular dropbox. I find my song 
>>> folder and enter on it, which is the the dot 8 key.  I have the focus blue 
>>> 40 display.  I go in a song and I can start reading the words.  I was told 
>>> to hit chord b to go back.  What I want to do is to go back out of the song 
>>> back to the song list.  That way I could go through my song list and find 
>>> the next song that is put up.  I hit chord b and it goes completely out of 
>>> the folder to the beginning of dropbox things.  As I swaid before, I tried 
>>> it in access note and regular dropbox and it did the same thing.  I flicked 
>>> throught the list of folders to the right one.  It will go inside the song 
>>> folder but not further.  It will not go in the individual song to read the 
>>> words.  I have to close the app and try again.  My question is this.  Is 
>>> there a voice-over command for the Braille display to go back out of the 
>>> song words to my list of songs? I know that dot 8 enters on things.  I 
>>> wanted to explain it very clearly to get the right answer.  I hope someone 
>>> can help.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much.  God bless.
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Re: iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, an excellent read as always, buy today and get ready for iOS 11 when 
it's scheduled for release Tuesday. For me, even though I've participated in 
the public beta program since the very beginning, there were things I didn't 
even know about, or were not sure about, and now I do thanks to this book. All 
will be revealed from Tuesday.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 17:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye. It 
> might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the 
> beta program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used 
> these books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like 
> written documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money 
> off of this post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 
> and is instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday. 
> You can go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are 
> interested.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello Alan, don't worry I'm the same. Since I've only had my 6s recently, I am 
not going to upgrade any time soon. It does what I want it to do, and fast 
enough for me at least.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 19:24, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I guess I'm not as enthusiastic with the wireless charging at least as I 
> understand it. I can't argue that placing my device on a charging pad might 
> be marginally more convenient than plugging it into a cable but I'm not sure 
> I'm willing to pay the price of the charging pad for that convenience. And it 
> seems to me that hauling the charging pad around when traveling will be less 
> convenient than tossing an extra lightning cable into your bag. I'm also 
> curious how well the glass backs of these new iPhones necessitated to support 
> wireless charging will hold up compared to the former aluminum metal ones. I 
> also expect that case manufacturers will have a challenge designing one that 
> protects the back of the iPhone while also supporting wireless charging. But 
> I'll freely admit that I'm not as quick to gush about Apple's latest products 
> as some on the list seem prone to do.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall 
> outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your 
> phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's 
> charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone 
> down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you 
> first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said 
> before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time 
> when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full 
> or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about 
> getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that 
> as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, 
> airplanes and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I 
> believe the Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have 
> fast charging technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an 
> hour) I really do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an 
> initial investment.
> Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast 
> about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly 
> regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I 
> have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables. Wireless 
> charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging pad is 
> more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for years 
> and years to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I 
> can't see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The Belkin 
> Boost Up charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing something has 
> to be plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time understanding why 
> this is really all that more convenient than just plugging a cable into your 
> phone to charge it but I admit I've not fully researched the technology yet.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office and 
> at home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a big 
> difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who wants 
> to go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you maybe go to 
> the living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If all you have to 
> do is put it down on a charging pad this is a totally different story. I for 
> one have preferred places where I put down my phone in these places so if I 
> had a charging pad there my phone would always be charged and I rarely would 
> have to worry about running out.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 

Re: Smart battery case will it fit on the new iPhone 8 ?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, it should, as the iPhone 8 has a 4.7-inch display, just like the 6, 6s 
and 7.
> On 15 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Will my current smart battery case fit the standard iPhone 8 ?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> 
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Re: wireless charging

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, we have been informed at the September 12 event that all the new iPhones 
will support fast charging, but with a price from what I've read. You have to 
buy an accessory to take advantage of the feature. The charging accessories 
provided with the new iPhones only support the regular charging.
> On 16 Sep 2017, at 03:16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure about the iPhone, but the S7 supports quick charging on the 
> charging pad, and I haven't noticed that it's significantly slower, but I 
> assume you're right and that it is slower than a wired connection.
> 
> 
> On 09/15/2017 04:21 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>> It should not slow it down, but wireless charging is already significantly 
>> slower than wired charging (according to an article I just read).
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Cris Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: wireless charging
>>  
>> Thanks Louis,
>> Since you are already using a wireless charger, do you know if using a cover 
>> case for the phone would slow down or even be an obstacle for wireless 
>> charging?
>> Regards,
>> Cris
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Lois Butterfield
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: wireless charging
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
>> IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
>> lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone 
>> charge wirelessly.
>>  
>> I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
>> into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.
>>  
>> By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
>> charging pads for just over $10.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hi Chris,
>>  
>> I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
>> which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
>> exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
>> hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
>> have to plug in a wire.
>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
>> wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
>> charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a 
>> charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
>> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
>> this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable 
>> and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as 
>> they call it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe 
>> Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all 
>> three devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes 
>> by this may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
>> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
>> wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to 
>> make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide 
>> variety of devices to compliment it.
>>  
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Cris Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
>> advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to 
>> place the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This 
>> is not remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about 
>> more gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the 
>> wire, we will need to also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging 
>> to work.  
>> I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would 
>> not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am 
>> not sure I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or 
>> café, or in an airport terminal.  Unless the wireless charging pad is on my 
>> table or on the arm of my chair, I would not use it.
>> Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it 
>> better to me?
>> Cheers,
>> Cris
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Re: upgrading from a 6+

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, Apple is the only company to provide hardware support for at least five 
years. From the information provided, you should be ok with the 6+ for at least 
three years including this one, in which iOS 11 will be definitely supported on 
the 6+.
> On 16 Sep 2017, at 03:59, Billy Maynard  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> I've since the  september 12 event been thinking about upgrading to atleast 
> an 8+ but, my main reason is because I have a 6+ and wonder it'll support ios 
> 11 but, how many beyond that.  I seem to recall people mentioning on this 
> list that there are generaly a number of upgrades any  phone will take in ios 
> before they're not supported.  Upgrading phones is an expensive venture.  and 
> I wonder how much longer my 6+ will continue to support the ios versions.  
> Does anyone recall?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Billy Maynard 
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