Re: airplay2 speakers advice (maybe sonos)?

[Brett]

Hi,

Sonos is great with Airplay2 and creating a sterio pair is easy. The sterio 
sound is awesome. I know Sonos is accessible on Windows iPhones and Android 
phones. I don't personally have a Mac, but I believe it is accessible there 
as well.


Just be sure to check, if you are going Sonos, as not all models support 
Airplay.



Cheers,
Brett.




On 6 January 2019 5:22:04 pm Anouk Radix  wrote:


Hi everyone,

I am looking for a stereo pair of wireless speakers for music listening
in the living room. With airplay 2 stereo wireless is a possiblity
although I dont think airfoil supports it yet so not sure if I can use
the stereo pair within windows or mac (seeing as I really dont like itunes).

But then I thought about sonos. I read that you can make a stereo pair
of sonos speakers if you have 2 sonosses in one room from within their
app. But is that still accessible and can it be used on windows or mac
also as well as on ios?

Also I read that sonos speakers work with touchpads. How do you do that
as a blid person? Just use the ios device as volume control?

I have had some speakers in the past that were way too bassy the bowers
and wilkins zeppelin for example. I now have speakers that have a nice
balance the audioengine a5plus but they are wired and old.

The sonos speakers that are currently on my radar are the sonos play:5
mk2 and that times two. Not really interested in 2 homepods because they
are not yet available here and I think from reading descriptions that i
would not like their sound all that much.

But there are some other speakers that support airplay 2. The reason why
sonos is number one currently is that they have their own apps for which
i hope that they will work with windows and mac so that i can use them
as a stereo pair there as well without having to use itunes.

Any info and or advice/suggestions would be appreciated.

Greetings, Anouk,

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Contacting a developer, regarding an App

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

First of all, thank you to those of you who have helped me, regarding my 
questions about accessible recipe Apps. The thoughts, and help are very 
appreciated.

I mentioned in 1 of my messages, that I found this recipe App called Yumly. I 
really like the App. I can see a lot of good things, regarding it.
However, many, if not all of the buttons aren’t labeled. Getting signed up was 
fairly easy. But then from there it’s been a bit of a challenge to figure out. 
Although, I have seen much less accessible Apps.

I was considering contacting the developers of this App. I haven’t ever done 
this sort of thing. It’s just not usually my style. But this is how much I like 
the App.

So if I end up doing this, how do I express to them what might be helpful?
And how can I politely get my thoughts across? I am not 1 who likes to be 
harsh, or rude, or anything like that. But I would like to express myself well, 
as I really hope maybe at some point, changes might be made.

So if any of you who have gone about doing this, could share your thoughts and 
experiences, that would just be great.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[lenron brown]

I miss those phones, use to love my nextel devices. You could use a
headset or put the phone to your ear if you didn't want people to hear
your convo. Also it was sweet to be able to use that when there was no
service with other devices.

On 1/6/19, Cristobal Munoz  wrote:
> Because everyone wants to look like Dick Tracy or some futuristic dude from
> the 60s/70s.
> I think I read somewhere that the Nextel walkie-talkie phone thing was going
> to try to make a come back. I guess. Then again… Why did they go out of
> business in the first place? Don’t people remember how annoying it was to
> always hear walkie-talkie phones going off? This for me is a hard pass.
>
>> On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, and while I tried this walkie-talkie thing once or twice with my wife
>> it's just a toy and I don't get it.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Cristóbal Muñoz
>> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech
>>
>> Walkie-talkies? Man, I'm getting some serious Nextel 2007 flashbacks over
>> here. It's true what they say ... everything old is new again.
>>
>> Cristóbal
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech
>>
>> Did you enable double tap to talk? If not you may have to double tap and
>> hold and continue to hold while you speak your message.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
>> Byrne
>> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech
>>
>> So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing
>> happens.  I can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't talk
>> back.  And, after all, a person needs backtalk!
>> At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
>>> You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom
>>> there. Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.
>>>
>>> Jenn
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Ann Byrne
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts
>>>
>>> I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone
>>> app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't
>>> find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts
>>> on the watch he says he doesn't find anything called contacts.  Is
>>> there something I should do or should have done to remedy this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
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Re: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[Cristobal Munoz]

Because everyone wants to look like Dick Tracy or some futuristic dude from the 
60s/70s. 
I think I read somewhere that the Nextel walkie-talkie phone thing was going to 
try to make a come back. I guess. Then again… Why did they go out of business 
in the first place? Don’t people remember how annoying it was to always hear 
walkie-talkie phones going off? This for me is a hard pass. 

> On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, and while I tried this walkie-talkie thing once or twice with my wife 
> it's just a toy and I don't get it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech
> 
> Walkie-talkies? Man, I'm getting some serious Nextel 2007 flashbacks over 
> here. It's true what they say ... everything old is new again.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech
> 
> Did you enable double tap to talk? If not you may have to double tap and hold 
> and continue to hold while you speak your message.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
> Byrne
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech
> 
> So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing happens.  
> I can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't talk back.  And, 
> after all, a person needs backtalk!
> At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
>> You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom 
>> there. Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ann Byrne
>> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts
>> 
>> I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone 
>> app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't 
>> find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts 
>> on the watch he says he doesn't find anything called contacts.  Is 
>> there something I should do or should have done to remedy this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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airplay2 speakers advice (maybe sonos)?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone,

I am looking for a stereo pair of wireless speakers for music listening 
in the living room. With airplay 2 stereo wireless is a possiblity 
although I dont think airfoil supports it yet so not sure if I can use 
the stereo pair within windows or mac (seeing as I really dont like itunes).


But then I thought about sonos. I read that you can make a stereo pair 
of sonos speakers if you have 2 sonosses in one room from within their 
app. But is that still accessible and can it be used on windows or mac 
also as well as on ios?


Also I read that sonos speakers work with touchpads. How do you do that 
as a blid person? Just use the ios device as volume control?


I have had some speakers in the past that were way too bassy the bowers 
and wilkins zeppelin for example. I now have speakers that have a nice 
balance the audioengine a5plus but they are wired and old.


The sonos speakers that are currently on my radar are the sonos play:5 
mk2 and that times two. Not really interested in 2 homepods because they 
are not yet available here and I think from reading descriptions that i 
would not like their sound all that much.


But there are some other speakers that support airplay 2. The reason why 
sonos is number one currently is that they have their own apps for which 
i hope that they will work with windows and mac so that i can use them 
as a stereo pair there as well without having to use itunes.


Any info and or advice/suggestions would be appreciated.

Greetings, Anouk,

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Reg Sullivan]

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.

In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on. 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robbie Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrob...@comcast.net  

 

 

 

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RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, and while I tried this walkie-talkie thing once or twice with my wife it's 
just a toy and I don't get it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

Walkie-talkies? Man, I'm getting some serious Nextel 2007 flashbacks over here. 
It's true what they say ... everything old is new again.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

Did you enable double tap to talk? If not you may have to double tap and hold 
and continue to hold while you speak your message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing happens.  I 
can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't talk back.  And, after 
all, a person needs backtalk!
At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
>You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom 
>there. Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.
>
>Jenn
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:54 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts
>
>I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone 
>app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't 
>find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts 
>on the watch he says he doesn't find anything called contacts.  Is 
>there something I should do or should have done to remedy this?
>
>Thanks,
>
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Arlene]

Mike, this is the best thing about email list groups, learning from one 
another. for the most part there's always 2 or 3 ways of doing things and being 
open to hearing about the different ways of doing things is beneficial, because 
in some instances 1 or 2 of the ways of doing something would be better than  
the other one of the ways. Until you know other ways of doing things you do 
what you think is the best way and nothing wrong with that. To much of an 
extent I'm still  a beginner of my experience with touch screen. Another thing, 
it's huge with all the accessibleness that we've gained in the iphone and even 
android phones.  Using the phone, this portable computer, using the apps 
anywhere in your house or anywhere else for that matter is really wonderful, 
and not only wonderful, but downright convenient. If you need to scan your 
desktop computer screen, or scan postal mail, in another room in the house or 
reading food boxes in the kitchen , it's really great. Recently we got one of 
those barcode scanners and as Wayne was putting some can coods away, he was 
saying how great it was that we could identify and sort out the cans ourselves. 
We no longer have to ask the check out to put the same kinds in their own bags 
or have the person that took us home to help us sort them out. There's no big 
rush to sort everything out, since we can read what it is with the scanner, but 
we eventually sort things out. It's about a year that we've had our se phones, 
but for us there's probably a number of things that we won't do on the phone. 
While in time we may do some more things, we feel somethings are better done on 
the desk top and laptop, but that's us. Many people, not just blind people are 
doing more and more on their phones, and with the technology now it makes it 
possible and it's great, really more than a great thing, that it's all 
possible. Nothing wrong with the using of the touch screen, and if someone does 
a few tasks another way there's nothing wrong with that either. It's as if, and 
this isn't something you said, but in a thread such as this, it's as if, if one 
isn't using the touch screen for even one task that other people do  on the 
touch screen, it's as if the use of an app or the touch screen has to be 
defended. that's where this group and other groups like this come in where we 
read about how people are navigating on the screen and what apps are accessible 
to use.  We're always learning something here, whether it be solutions, how to 
do things we didn't know we could do and so on.  None of us here would have an 
iphone if we weren't sold on the touch screen and all that it has for all of 
us, meaning the continually, presently and in the future all the access that we 
never had before smart phones and before computers for that matter.- 
Original Message - 
  From: Michael Feir 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  While travelling or when my hands are wet, I wear AirPods or myTrekz Titanium 
bone conduction headset. This way, I can answer calls, invoke Siri, and do 
other things while hands are wet. There are ways around so many of these 
difficulties. I'v used my bank's app for years and it's completely accessible. 
the only thing I hesitate to try with it is depositing a cheque with my 
iPHONE's camera. The bank has been pretty responsive to accessibility issues. I 
once questionned the wisdom of doing banking via app rather than the 
automatically accessible phone. Those doubts are long behind me.


  This sort of thing is why I'm working on the Personal Power iOS edition. 
Apple has done quite brilliantly at making touchscreens accessible to blind 
people. However, it does poorly at explaining the possibilities to beginners. 
With so many completely inaccessible apps, it's easy to lose heart and 
perspective. Once people stop looking or don't know where to look, they won't 
find the thousands of fully accessible apps. I hope my guide will at least give 
people a better start and sense of what's possible. It's not an easy 
conceptional leap for blind people to master this stuff. I once laughed at the 
notion of doing much of anything with a flat screen. I now look back at my 
former thinking with incredulity. 
   .


  I've written to Apple advocating for a tutorial to take newcomers through the 
basics of VoiceOver on iOS. I think that would go a long way to reducing tech 
support calls and get people feeling confident much sooner. Also, more needs to 
be done to point people to the accesibilty feature which might help them. I've 
run into more than one blind person who thought Siri was what made iOS devices 
accessible. They had no idea that VoiceOver even existed.





  On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 11:34 AM Arlene  wrote:

I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor 
have I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for thi

RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think that's a matter of debate, I find it intuitive and easy both with my 
Windows PC and my iPhone.
I have a retail business and on the business side I have a regular Canadian 
chequing account, a US chequing account and a business line of credit which is 
also a Visa card.
On the personal side I have my personal chequing account, a so-called Tax Free 
Savings Account, a Scotia iTrade account, my mortgage, a personal line of 
credit and a US Visa. All of this is with the Scotia Bank here in Canada and a 
single sign-on gives me access to all my accounts.
I can select to pay a bill and select whichever account I want to use to pay it 
from, same goes for transferring between accounts or sending email money 
transfers which I am not sure exist in the US.
There is also a direct link from my business account to another service which 
allows me to file and submit my monthly PST (provincial sales tax) and GST 
(Goods and Services Tax) payments, these are taxes we collect when customers 
buy products and I have to submit them to the government. I also used to do my 
payroll deductions through this system, but now use a payroll service which 
does it for me.
If I pay bills or do any business related stuff I prefer to do it on the 
computer although it's all completely accessible with the Scotia iPhone app as 
well, but when I pay a bill or do a transfer there is always a confirmation 
page which I like to keep so I print it but use the Microsoft Print to PDF 
printer in Windows 10 which allows me to save it as an accessible PDF.
Using telephone banking in comparison is slow and clunky and I don't think I 
have called my banks telephone banking line in 10 years.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Online banking is hard, even for my sighted and tech savvy husband. I haven't 
done it in too long now. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor have 
I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for this purpose calling my 
bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be able to look up 
the information you need at any time for another way of doing it.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like 
Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to 
call in.

 

I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my 
office phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the 
numbers almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in advance 
and can simply edit that part of the contact.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip 
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password 
each time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used 
to work.

 

All the best

Angie





On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Simon,

 

If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, 
just try to add a comma "," after the number and then type in your account 
number. Then save the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be 
surprised how easy it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then 
enter your account number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and 
then enter your account number and save.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

  

RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Walkie-talkies? Man, I'm getting some serious Nextel 2007 flashbacks over here. 
It's true what they say ... everything old is new again.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

Did you enable double tap to talk? If not you may have to double tap and hold 
and continue to hold while you speak your message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing happens.  I 
can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't talk back.  And, after 
all, a person needs backtalk!
At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
>You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom 
>there. Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.
>
>Jenn
>
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>Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts
>
>I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone 
>app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't 
>find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts 
>on the watch he says he doesn't find anything called contacts.  Is 
>there something I should do or should have done to remedy this?
>
>Thanks,
>
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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.
In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi,
The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet
Hth -Steve
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hello,
I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed.
Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat.

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa.

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone.

Is anyone using either of these thermostats?
Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?
I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net



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Re: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[Jennie Facer]

Ok Ann,

Here is what I do. I double tap the hold just for a second and do so very 
lightly as you don’t want to actually do a force touch on your watch. After you 
hear a series of beeps, then let go and then try to talk. They you can do a 
double tap when you are done.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing happens.  
> I can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't talk back.  And, 
> after all, a person needs backtalk!
> At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
>> You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom there. 
>> Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
>> Byrne
>> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts
>> 
>> I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone app, 
>> my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't find a a 
>> stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts on the watch 
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>> 
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RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you enable double tap to talk? If not you may have to double tap and hold 
and continue to hold while you speak your message.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing 
happens.  I can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't 
talk back.  And, after all, a person needs backtalk!
At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
>You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom 
>there. Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.
>
>Jenn
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>Of Ann Byrne
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>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts
>
>I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the 
>phone app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but 
>I don't find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to 
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>
>Thanks,
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RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... transmitting speech

[Ann Byrne]

So it says talk button.  When I double tap the talk button, nothing 
happens.  I can hear the other party's transmissions, but I can't 
talk back.  And, after all, a person needs backtalk!

At 06:30 PM 1/5/2019, you wrote:
You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom 
there. Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.


Jenn

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I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the 
phone app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but 
I don't find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to 
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contacts.  Is there something I should do or should have done to remedy this?


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RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts

[Jennie]

You have to open Walkie Talkie on the watch then add a contact rom there. 
Double tap on add contact and a list of them will come up.

Jenn

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Subject: RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts

I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone app, my 
contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't find a a 
stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts on the watch he 
says he doesn't find anything called contacts.  Is there something I should do 
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Re: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts

[Maria Reyes]

Open the walkie talkie app then scroll down to add button then find the contact 
you want to add then double tap and it will send them an invitation 

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> I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the phone app, 
> my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I don't find a a 
> stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open contacts on the watch he 
> says he doesn't find anything called contacts.  Is there something I should 
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RE: Activating walkie-talkie ... contacts

[Ann Byrne]

I am missing how to find contacts on the watch.  If I go into the 
phone app, my contacts are listed; I presume in messages also.  but I 
don't find a a stand-alone contacts entry.  When I ask Siri to open 
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Carolyn Arnold]

Online banking is hard, even for my sighted and tech savvy husband. I haven't 
done it in too long now. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor have 
I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for this purpose calling my 
bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be able to look up 
the information you need at any time for another way of doing it.

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Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like 
Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to 
call in.

 

I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my 
office phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the 
numbers almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in advance 
and can simply edit that part of the contact.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip 
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password 
each time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used 
to work.

 

All the best

Angie





On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Simon,

 

If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, 
just try to add a comma "," after the number and then type in your account 
number. Then save the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be 
surprised how easy it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then 
enter your account number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and 
then enter your account number and save.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.

also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for 
certain digits from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for 
every call.

 

Simon

 

 

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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 

 

 






On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

 

There is a way that you could add your bank to 
your contacts and have it automatically put in your bank account number.  When 
you are creating the contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the 
number, put in a few commas then type in whatever you would normally put in 
after the bank’s phone system answers.

For example, if you normally put in your 
account number then press pound, put in pen, press pound again, you would put 
in the following as the phone number:

Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#

You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift 
then finding comma.  You need to do this for each comma.

 

   

Re: Spectrum App

[Andy Baracco]

We were formerly Time Warner Cable.

Andy

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  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:31 PM
  Subject: RE: Spectrum App


  Hi Andy,

   

  Was your cable system formerly Brighthouse? 

   

  I must say that the Spectrum App is quite good and I’ve gotten some good 
pointers from this as to how to make better use of it. I just wish that the SAP 
would work as it’s supposed to and then it would really be great!

   

   

  Debbie 

   

   

   

   


   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 2:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Spectrum App

   

  i live in L. A. and can listen to audio description on several channels.

   

  Andy

   

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:21 AM

Subject: Spectrum App

 

Hello,

 

To those of you who have been successful in playing live TV shows with SAP 
for audio description on the Spectrum TV App, where do you live? 

 

I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and the only channel that allows me 
to turn on Audio Description is The Weather Channel where the scroll on the 
bottom of the screen is read. Even if I go to a channel that has a show 
broadcast with Audio Description, that button is dimmed and I can’t turn it on. 

 

I’m still waiting for a talking set top box to be available so wondered if 
any of you have received that box yet?

 

Thanks for any help. I don’t know if the signal is not being passed through 
here or if there is a problem with the Spectrum system in this area; they have 
just recently gone 100% digital. We are something like the 14th largest TV 
market so should have Audio Description available to us.  

 

Debbie

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Hi Andy,

 

Was your cable system formerly Brighthouse? 

 

I must say that the Spectrum App is quite good and I’ve gotten some good 
pointers from this as to how to make better use of it. I just wish that the SAP 
would work as it’s supposed to and then it would really be great!

 

 

Debbie 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum App

 

i live in L. A. and can listen to audio description on several channels.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Debbie Downey   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:21 AM

Subject: Spectrum App

 

Hello,

 

To those of you who have been successful in playing live TV shows with SAP for 
audio description on the Spectrum TV App, where do you live? 

 

I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and the only channel that allows me to 
turn on Audio Description is The Weather Channel where the scroll on the bottom 
of the screen is read. Even if I go to a channel that has a show broadcast with 
Audio Description, that button is dimmed and I can’t turn it on. 

 

I’m still waiting for a talking set top box to be available so wondered if any 
of you have received that box yet?

 

Thanks for any help. I don’t know if the signal is not being passed through 
here or if there is a problem with the Spectrum system in this area; they have 
just recently gone 100% digital. We are something like the 14th largest TV 
market so should have Audio Description available to us.  

 

Debbie

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Re: Spectrum App

[Andy Baracco]

i live in L. A. and can listen to audio description on several channels.

Andy

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:21 AM
  Subject: Spectrum App


  Hello,

   

  To those of you who have been successful in playing live TV shows with SAP 
for audio description on the Spectrum TV App, where do you live? 

   

  I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and the only channel that allows me 
to turn on Audio Description is The Weather Channel where the scroll on the 
bottom of the screen is read. Even if I go to a channel that has a show 
broadcast with Audio Description, that button is dimmed and I can’t turn it on. 

   

  I’m still waiting for a talking set top box to be available so wondered if 
any of you have received that box yet?

   

  Thanks for any help. I don’t know if the signal is not being passed through 
here or if there is a problem with the Spectrum system in this area; they have 
just recently gone 100% digital. We are something like the 14th largest TV 
market so should have Audio Description available to us.  

   

  Debbie


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RE: a Spanish keyboard but English otherwise

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Indeed. The only reason I even have the Spanish language keyboard in my 
rotation is for when I want to dictate, look something up or visit a Spanish 
language site. For typing, this method of tapping and holding is a lot quicker 
than switching among keyboards for the odd accent or ñ which is in my sir name 
by the way. So yeah, major time saver.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a Spanish keyboard but English otherwise

 

 

you can use accent marks with the standard onscreen keyboard. If you leave your 
finger on the letter for a while, you should hear a tone and VoiceOver should 
say alternative characters available. For example, I've written Mexico after 
this sentence using the accented e. México. 

I am not sure if that is the correct accent mark, but the iPhone didn't say it 
was misspelled, so hopefully it was the correct one.

When the phone says alternative characters available, slide your finger left or 
right to see what accents you can use.

HTH,

Richard

  

"He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."

Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 1648)

 


On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:22 AM, regina alvarado mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, is there a way to get a Spanish keyboard and still have the ability to read 
in English? I want to switch my on-screen keyboard to Spanish but be able to 
read the English above where I am typing in English. Does this make sense? 
Thanks for any help. Appreciated. Trying to be able to put in the accents.


Reggie and Lex
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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrob...@comcast.net  

 

 

 

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Re: a Spanish keyboard but English otherwise

[Richard Turner]

you can use accent marks with the standard onscreen keyboard. If you leave your 
finger on the letter for a while, you should hear a tone and VoiceOver should 
say alternative characters available. For example, I've written Mexico after 
this sentence using the accented e. México.
I am not sure if that is the correct accent mark, but the iPhone didn't say it 
was misspelled, so hopefully it was the correct one.
When the phone says alternative characters available, slide your finger left or 
right to see what accents you can use.
HTH,
Richard


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himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."

Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 1648)


On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:22 AM, regina alvarado 
mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, is there a way to get a Spanish keyboard and still have the ability to read 
in English? I want to switch my on-screen keyboard to Spanish but be able to 
read the English above where I am typing in English. Does this make sense? 
Thanks for any help. Appreciated. Trying to be able to put in the accents.


Reggie and Lex
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Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Robbie Miller]

Hello, 

I'm looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that's more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrob...@comcast.net  

 

 

 

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a Spanish keyboard but English otherwise

[regina alvarado]

Hi, is there a way to get a Spanish keyboard and still have the ability to read 
in English? I want to switch my on-screen keyboard to Spanish but be able to 
read the English above where I am typing in English. Does this make sense? 
Thanks for any help. Appreciated. Trying to be able to put in the accents.


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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Michael Feir]

While travelling or when my hands are wet, I wear AirPods or myTrekz
Titanium bone conduction headset. This way, I can answer calls, invoke
Siri, and do other things while hands are wet. There are ways around so
many of these difficulties. I'v used my bank's app for years and it's
completely accessible. the only thing I hesitate to try with it is
depositing a cheque with my iPHONE's camera. The bank has been pretty
responsive to accessibility issues. I once questionned the wisdom of doing
banking via app rather than the automatically accessible phone. Those
doubts are long behind me.

This sort of thing is why I'm working on the Personal Power iOS edition.
Apple has done quite brilliantly at making touchscreens accessible to blind
people. However, it does poorly at explaining the possibilities to
beginners. With so many completely inaccessible apps, it's easy to lose
heart and perspective. Once people stop looking or don't know where to
look, they won't find the thousands of fully accessible apps. I hope my
guide will at least give people a better start and sense of what's
possible. It's not an easy conceptional leap for blind people to master
this stuff. I once laughed at the notion of doing much of anything with a
flat screen. I now look back at my former thinking with incredulity.
 .

I've written to Apple advocating for a tutorial to take newcomers through
the basics of VoiceOver on iOS. I think that would go a long way to
reducing tech support calls and get people feeling confident much sooner.
Also, more needs to be done to point people to the accesibilty feature
which might help them. I've run into more than one blind person who thought
Siri was what made iOS devices accessible. They had no idea that VoiceOver
even existed.



On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 11:34 AM Arlene  wrote:

> I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor
> have I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for this purpose
> calling my bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be
> able to look up the information you need at any time for another way of
> doing it.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Richard Turner 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM
> *Subject:* RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like
> Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to
> call in.
>
>
>
> I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my
> office phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the
> numbers almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in
> advance and can simply edit that part of the contact.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Angie Nutt
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password
> each time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine
> used to work.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to
> add a comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then
> save the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how
> easy it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter
> your account number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then
> enter your account number and save.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *goshawk on horseback
> *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
>
> also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits
> from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.
>
>
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Angie Nutt 
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>
>
>
> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it
> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the
> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few
> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s
> phone system answers.
>
> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound,
> 

Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Arlene]

I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor have 
I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for this purpose calling my 
bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be able to look up 
the information you need at any time for another way of doing it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM
  Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like 
Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to 
call in.

   

  I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my office 
phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the numbers 
almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in advance and can 
simply edit that part of the contact.

   

  Richard

   

   

   

  “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
  Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

   

  But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password each 
time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used to 
work.

   

  All the best

  Angie





On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Simon,

 

If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to 
add a comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then 
save the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how easy 
it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter your account 
number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then enter your 
account number and save.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.

also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

 

Simon

 

 

  - Original Message -

  From: Angie Nutt

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM

  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

   

  That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 

   

   






On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  
wrote:

 

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have 
it automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.

For example, if you normally put in your account number then press 
pound, put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the 
phone number:

Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#

You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  
You need to do this for each comma.

 

Sentfrom my iPhone


On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:

  When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are 
times we need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. 
With inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.

- Original Message -

From: Angie Nutt

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM

Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While 
I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.

 

 






  On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:

   

  I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer 
version, but for the most pa

Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Arlene]

Each time I call, I don't always go to all the same  options in the bank's 
menue, so doing it with the buttons is best as far as I'm concerned, and may 
not be the best way for someone else. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: goshawk on horseback 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given. 
  also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call. 

  Simon 


- Original Message - 
From: Angie Nutt 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 






  On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:


  There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers. 
  For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, 
put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone 
number:
  Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
  You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You 
need to do this for each comma.


  Sentfrom my iPhone 

  On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:


When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times 
we need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
  - Original Message -
  From: Angie Nutt
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While 
I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me. 






On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer 
version, but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and 
how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they 
are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of 
very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make 
touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very 
efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better 
off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss 
something here, but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 
2, the $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, 
on Audio Pizza:
http://bit.ly/2LMApbp
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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, the only way I have now found to silence the sound while Live TV is 
playing is to activate one of the other tabs on the bottom of the screen, such 
as Guide.
At least for me, with the iPhone in portrait mode, this silences the audio.
Not the best solution, but it seems to work every time.
Thanks.



From: Sherrie Gosling 
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App

I recently signed up for the Spectrum app and find it fairly easy to navigate. 
I love that I can pick my favorite channels and then see what is currently 
playing on each in a list.

I also like that I can choose a program on my phone and then choose to play it 
on the living room TV!

What I can’t figure out is how to make the app stop playing a choice.  When I 
go to a tab for example Live TV, it immediately starts playing the audio from 
some station, probably the last one I was watching. I can go through the list 
and if I choose something it will replace the audio I hear from the previous 
one. But it won’t go silent.  Even when I choose to play it on the living room 
TV the phone still keeps playing the audio and it is a second or so off from 
the audio from the actual TV.

I have been using a work around of closing the app in the app switcher when 
watching on the TV but want to know how to silence the app.

Sherrie Gosling

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App

 

I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also works 
delightfully well right from with in the app.

Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play 
immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.

 

From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 

Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App

 

Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just 
wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP channel 
for that .. which is another topic all together … 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App

 

Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to 
the secondary audio channel.  

I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor 
have I found any fast forward controls.

I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.

There is a bit of a problem with the guide.

You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on 
network schedule for that channel.

The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the day 
that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the program, 
but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then announced 
correctly.

I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could be 
made.

Thanks.

 

 

 

From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 

Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Spectrum TV App

 

Hello,

 

Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions 
relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …

 

I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also 
switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching recorded 
stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and are you able 
to rewind and fast forward?

 

Thanks for any assistance … 

 

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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Arlene]

Sounds like a lot of work to me too, and I rather be sure of getting it done, 
finding out the information I need, which doesn't take long to do. After all we 
all have our varying ways of getting things done.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Angie Nutt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)






On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:


There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, 
put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone 
number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You 
need to do this for each comma.


Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:


  When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While 
I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.






  On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, 
other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where 
a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
  Regards,
  Sieghard
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
  I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, 
the $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
Audio Pizza:
  http://bit.ly/2LMApbp
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RE: Accessible bluetooth microwave

[Ann Byrne]

That's the one we have.  I like it a lot.
At 06:18 PM 1/4/2019, you wrote:

On amazon they have a GE Alexa enabled microwave .900

character 
is found in how you treat people who cannot do 
anything for you!***


From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible bluetooth microwave



Sent from my iPhoneHello everyone,

I was wondering, are there any accessible, 
bluetooth inabled microwaves out there, that have user-friendly Apps?
I need to replace my microwave, and I would like 
to get 1 that I don’t necessarily have to worry about labeling.


Any help is much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Anthony Vece]

It took me a good three months and, nine years I am still learning.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I agree that the touch screen is just something that I had to get used to, 
> like having physical therapy if I'd had a long illness, just work at it until 
> it became natural. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Angie Nutt
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.
> 
> I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a smart 
> phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It could have 
> gone that way I suppose.
> 
> When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if there 
> had been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might have. 
> But as things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread is 
> about, nor for the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the smooth 
> interaction or dare I say, sensual, feel of the screen under my fingers. I do 
> use a bluetooth keyboard if I want to type for any length of time. It is 
> QUERTY as since learning to type as a teenager that’s my preferred method of 
> input.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm 
>> one of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end all of smart 
>> things.
>> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging 
>> senses, including touch.
>> 
>> Thanks, R.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Angie Nutt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> 
>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
>> don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with 
>> it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
>> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would 
>> probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that 
>> often. I am of course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to 
>> type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their 
>> original RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. 
>> Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
>>> but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to 
>>> and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone 
>>> or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that 
>>> there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason can't 
>>> touch the phone, e.g. if they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. 
>>> Apple and now Google have put a lot of very smart people to work to come up 
>>> with this incredible way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, 
>>> apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet 
>>> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
>>> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't 
>>> get it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Russ Kiehne
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, 
>>> the $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, 
>>> on Audio Pizza:
>>> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp 
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Anthony Vece]

The iPhone needs to have contact with your skin.
I wear my AirPods and they work just fine.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> You know, speaking of phone in pocket, where mine spends a lot of it's life, 
> I can't answer mine by pushing the screen in my pocket, or if I'm wearing 
> gloves. I don't know if my gesture varies or of the phone has to have contact 
> with life, circulation, body warmth - just haven't figured that out. Another 
> thing, my daughter-in-law has the best aim for calling me while eating or 
> cleaning kitchen. If my fingers are the slightest damp, I can't make it 
> answer with the two-finber double tap. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Angie Nutt
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> Importance: High
> 
> We sell it for £225.00 plus £10.00 shipping.
> 
> We do know of people who have used it for navigating around their Twitter app 
> and have found it particularly useful for this. Also like you say, in a 
> pocket etc. I know of someone who has phone in pocket, bluetooth earpiece, 
> and does things with RIVO in his hand when out and about. I think people 
> would be less interested in stealing that than an iPhone to.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 15:42, goshawk on horseback 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> same here, if it had come out when I got my first iPhone, I probably 
>> would have gone for it. unfortunately, by the time the time that the 
>> first version came out, I had got fairly used to the touch screen. I 
>> can see another application for this device however, that is as a sort 
>> of remote, if one is in a situation when one doesn't want to take 
>> one's phone out, but may want to access it, such as whilst on horseback for 
>> example.
>> so as I know you are in the UK, what price are you knocking it out for?
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Angie Nutt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> 
>> Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.
>> 
>> I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a 
>> smart phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It 
>> could have gone that way I suppose.
>> 
>> When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if 
>> there had been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might 
>> have.
>> But as things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread 
>> is about, nor for the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the 
>> smooth interaction or dare I say, sensual, feel of the screen under my 
>> fingers. I do use a bluetooth keyboard if I want to type for any 
>> length of time. It is QUERTY as since learning to type as a teenager 
>> that’s my preferred method of input.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm 
>>> one of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end all of 
>>> smart things.
>>> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging 
>>> senses, including touch.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, R.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Angie Nutt" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
>>> don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with 
>>> it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
>>> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I 
>>> would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual 
>>> phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers not in contacts 
>>> being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few 
>>> who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 
>>> seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round 
>>> it; it just isn’t for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
 but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to 
 and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the 
 iPhone or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand 
 that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason 
 can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are quadriplegic, have no hands 
 etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very smart people to 
 work to come up with this incredible way to make touchs

Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Christopher Chaltain]

You have to make contact with your phone's screen with something that 
conducts electricity, such as your skin. You can also use a stylus. They 
make gloves that have either holes for your finger tips or a material 
that conducts electricity, so you can use those gloves with your touch 
screen.



On 1/5/19 9:25 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

You know, speaking of phone in pocket, where mine spends a lot of it's life, I 
can't answer mine by pushing the screen in my pocket, or if I'm wearing gloves. 
I don't know if my gesture varies or of the phone has to have contact with 
life, circulation, body warmth - just haven't figured that out. Another thing, 
my daughter-in-law has the best aim for calling me while eating or cleaning 
kitchen. If my fingers are the slightest damp, I can't make it answer with the 
two-finber double tap.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
Importance: High

We sell it for £225.00 plus £10.00 shipping.

We do know of people who have used it for navigating around their Twitter app 
and have found it particularly useful for this. Also like you say, in a pocket 
etc. I know of someone who has phone in pocket, bluetooth earpiece, and does 
things with RIVO in his hand when out and about. I think people would be less 
interested in stealing that than an iPhone to.

All the best
Angie


On 4 Jan 2019, at 15:42, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

same here, if it had come out when I got my first iPhone, I probably
would have gone for it. unfortunately, by the time the time that the
first version came out, I had got fairly used to the touch screen. I
can see another application for this device however, that is as a sort
of remote, if one is in a situation when one doesn't want to take
one's phone out, but may want to access it, such as whilst on horseback for 
example.
so as I know you are in the UK, what price are you knocking it out for?

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Angie Nutt" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.

I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a
smart phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It
could have gone that way I suppose.

When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if
there had been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might 
have.
But as things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread
is about, nor for the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the
smooth interaction or dare I say, sensual, feel of the screen under my
fingers. I do use a bluetooth keyboard if I want to type for any
length of time. It is QUERTY as since learning to type as a teenager
that’s my preferred method of input.

All the best
Angie




On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone

wrote:

I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm
one of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end all of
smart things.
But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging
senses, including touch.

Thanks, R.

- Original Message -
From: "Angie Nutt" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and
don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with
it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can
appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I
would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual
phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers not in contacts
being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few
who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2
seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round
it; it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version,
but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to
and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the
iPhone or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand
that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason
can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are quadriplegic, have no hands
etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very smart people to
work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen devices
extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better
off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe
I miss something here, but I just don't get it.

Regar

RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Carolyn Arnold]

You know, speaking of phone in pocket, where mine spends a lot of it's life, I 
can't answer mine by pushing the screen in my pocket, or if I'm wearing gloves. 
I don't know if my gesture varies or of the phone has to have contact with 
life, circulation, body warmth - just haven't figured that out. Another thing, 
my daughter-in-law has the best aim for calling me while eating or cleaning 
kitchen. If my fingers are the slightest damp, I can't make it answer with the 
two-finber double tap. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
Importance: High

We sell it for £225.00 plus £10.00 shipping.

We do know of people who have used it for navigating around their Twitter app 
and have found it particularly useful for this. Also like you say, in a pocket 
etc. I know of someone who has phone in pocket, bluetooth earpiece, and does 
things with RIVO in his hand when out and about. I think people would be less 
interested in stealing that than an iPhone to.

All the best
Angie

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 15:42, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> same here, if it had come out when I got my first iPhone, I probably 
> would have gone for it. unfortunately, by the time the time that the 
> first version came out, I had got fairly used to the touch screen. I 
> can see another application for this device however, that is as a sort 
> of remote, if one is in a situation when one doesn't want to take 
> one's phone out, but may want to access it, such as whilst on horseback for 
> example.
> so as I know you are in the UK, what price are you knocking it out for?
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Angie Nutt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> 
> Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.
> 
> I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a 
> smart phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It 
> could have gone that way I suppose.
> 
> When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if 
> there had been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might 
> have.
> But as things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread 
> is about, nor for the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the 
> smooth interaction or dare I say, sensual, feel of the screen under my 
> fingers. I do use a bluetooth keyboard if I want to type for any 
> length of time. It is QUERTY as since learning to type as a teenager 
> that’s my preferred method of input.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm 
>> one of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end all of 
>> smart things.
>> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging 
>> senses, including touch.
>> 
>> Thanks, R.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Angie Nutt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> 
>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
>> don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with 
>> it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
>> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I 
>> would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual 
>> phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers not in contacts 
>> being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few 
>> who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 
>> seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round 
>> it; it just isn’t for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
>>> but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to 
>>> and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the 
>>> iPhone or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand 
>>> that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason 
>>> can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are quadriplegic, have no hands 
>>> etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very smart people to 
>>> work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen devices 
>>> extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
>>> with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better 
>>> off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe 
>>> I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  O

RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Carolyn Arnold]

I agree that the touch screen is just something that I had to get used to, like 
having physical therapy if I'd had a long illness, just work at it until it 
became natural. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.

I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a smart 
phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It could have gone 
that way I suppose.

When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if there had 
been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might have. But as 
things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread is about, nor for 
the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the smooth interaction or dare I 
say, sensual, feel of the screen under my fingers. I do use a bluetooth 
keyboard if I want to type for any length of time. It is QUERTY as since 
learning to type as a teenager that’s my preferred method of input.

All the best
Angie



> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm 
> one of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end all of smart 
> things.
> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging senses, 
> including touch.
> 
> Thanks, R.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Angie Nutt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> 
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
> don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with 
> it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would 
> probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that 
> often. I am of course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to 
> type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their 
> original RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. 
> Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
>> but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to 
>> and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone 
>> or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that 
>> there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason can't 
>> touch the phone, e.g. if they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. 
>> Apple and now Google have put a lot of very smart people to work to come up 
>> with this incredible way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, 
>> apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet 
>> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
>> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't 
>> get it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Russ Kiehne
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, 
>> the $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, 
>> on Audio Pizza:
>> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp 
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[Debbie Downey]

Hello,

 

To those of you who have been successful in playing live TV shows with SAP
for audio description on the Spectrum TV App, where do you live? 

 

I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and the only channel that allows me
to turn on Audio Description is The Weather Channel where the scroll on the
bottom of the screen is read. Even if I go to a channel that has a show
broadcast with Audio Description, that button is dimmed and I can't turn it
on. 

 

I'm still waiting for a talking set top box to be available so wondered if
any of you have received that box yet?

 

Thanks for any help. I don't know if the signal is not being passed through
here or if there is a problem with the Spectrum system in this area; they
have just recently gone 100% digital. We are something like the 14th largest
TV market so should have Audio Description available to us.  

 

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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a friend who had to go to assisted living. So, she got the lady from 
there to talk to me about getting her Victor Stream on the Wi-Fi system there. 
The first thing the lady said was, "there is no screen," like maybe the thing 
was broken, or the screen was not attached. I said, no, that the phone was 
designed for the blind. That has thrown my husband too, just can't get his head 
around that I download books and no screen in sight. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I see on the victor reader stream list that many users won’t use a touch 
screen device.  They want buttons.
 
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
 

I didn’t listen that far in the podcast, but I suspect that might be so, or it 
uses some variation on braille, but frankly, I think it is a bit silly, unless 
it does meet a specific need of someone with a particular disability, but to 
plug it as a way to use the iPhone without the touch screen is very misleading.

I can already do that with a Bluetooth keyboard or a braille device like the 
Orbit Reader 20.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

And how would you say write a text message or email with 20 buttons? Please 
don't tell me it uses the old T9 method where you have to press the number 2 
three times for the letter C etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

I agree Sieghard,

This won’t help you if you are a quadriplegic, etc.  It is a modified Bluetooth 
keyboard with 20 buttons and you have to learn their system of button 
combinations to accomplish what you want.  It does offer a micro and speaker so 
the sound is coming out of the little keyboardish device.

But, if you have some finger dexterity but not enough to use a standard 
Bluetooth keyboard, I guess there might be some uses for this.  It must be 
targeting a small market given that the price is rather high.

 

Just my two cents worth, and it didn’t cost you anything, grin.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 


I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the $299 
add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
Pizza:
http://bit.ly/2LMApbp 

 


 

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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Richard Turner]

Hi Carolyn,

So long as you either have headphones on or have the phone far enough away from 
your head for the screen to be active, you can go anywhere on the phone that 
isn't going to require the microphone.

I've not ever tried playing a voice mail while on the phone, but searching 
contacts, going on the web, opening notes, pretty much anything you want to do 
is fine.
You couldn't use Siri since that will require the microphone.

HTH,
Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

How do you do that? Just go to the Home Screen and into whichever ap you want 
to get information from? What if you have called some using Contacts and need 
to get another phone number from Contacts? Or, what if you have returned a call 
from Recent calls, and want to check a Voice Mail? Or the number of another 
recent caller that the current caller might want? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margret Booth
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Hi Carolyn 

Yes I do check information on my iPhone while I am talking to someone. I always 
have my headset in and go to the information that I am after e.g. my diary or 
something that someone sent me by using the usual gestures. You can hear VO 
talking in your ear as well as the person you are talking to and I usually 
explain to the person who I am talking to what I am doing and could they stop 
talking until I find what I am after.

Margaret Booth
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I'm with you, Seigard. Once you get the hang of the touch screen and realize 
that it is a touch screen, not a bang screen, it does pretty much what it says 
it will do. For me, most of it has been just learning what I really needed to 
do. For instance, I get annoyed by notifications, tried to cut them back. I was 
using the phone today, and it started about a voice mail that I was well aware 
of, and I heard it say something about tap or double tap, can't remember, but I 
did, and it shut the thing up, so that I could be in control and tend to the 
voice mail on my terms when I wanted to. 

The other day, my daughter-in-law wanted me to hear a message that she 
forwarded me. I said I did not know how to do that while in conversation with 
someone, so she asked me to hang up, check it, then call her with my opinion, 
which I did. I am sure there is a way to do that. Do any of you ever do that, 
while talking check other things on the phone, and how, please? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 


I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the $299 
add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
Pizza:
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Carolyn Arnold]

I'm not used to telling Siri to open anything, except Compass, so just go to 
Home Screen? Thanks. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

While you are on the phone, you can press the Home button.  Then you can go 
into the Messages app or whatever app you want o check.  The only thing is that 
you can’t tell SIRI to open an app while you are on the phone.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm with you, Seigard. Once you get the hang of the touch screen and realize 
> that it is a touch screen, not a bang screen, it does pretty much what it 
> says it will do. For me, most of it has been just learning what I really 
> needed to do. For instance, I get annoyed by notifications, tried to cut them 
> back. I was using the phone today, and it started about a voice mail that I 
> was well aware of, and I heard it say something about tap or double tap, 
> can't remember, but I did, and it shut the thing up, so that I could be in 
> control and tend to the voice mail on my terms when I wanted to. 
> 
> The other day, my daughter-in-law wanted me to hear a message that she 
> forwarded me. I said I did not know how to do that while in conversation with 
> someone, so she asked me to hang up, check it, then call her with my opinion, 
> which I did. I am sure there is a way to do that. Do any of you ever do that, 
> while talking check other things on the phone, and how, please? 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
> they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
> advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
> person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
> smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
> devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
> with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
> to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something 
> here, but I just don't get it.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
> Audio Pizza:
> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp  
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Carolyn Arnold]

How do you do that? Just go to the Home Screen and into whichever ap you want 
to get information from? What if you have called some using Contacts and need 
to get another phone number from Contacts? Or, what if you have returned a call 
from Recent calls, and want to check a Voice Mail? Or the number of another 
recent caller that the current caller might want? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margret Booth
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Hi Carolyn 

Yes I do check information on my iPhone while I am talking to someone. I always 
have my headset in and go to the information that I am after e.g. my diary or 
something that someone sent me by using the usual gestures. You can hear VO 
talking in your ear as well as the person you are talking to and I usually 
explain to the person who I am talking to what I am doing and could they stop 
talking until I find what I am after.

Margaret Booth
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I'm with you, Seigard. Once you get the hang of the touch screen and realize 
that it is a touch screen, not a bang screen, it does pretty much what it says 
it will do. For me, most of it has been just learning what I really needed to 
do. For instance, I get annoyed by notifications, tried to cut them back. I was 
using the phone today, and it started about a voice mail that I was well aware 
of, and I heard it say something about tap or double tap, can't remember, but I 
did, and it shut the thing up, so that I could be in control and tend to the 
voice mail on my terms when I wanted to. 

The other day, my daughter-in-law wanted me to hear a message that she 
forwarded me. I said I did not know how to do that while in conversation with 
someone, so she asked me to hang up, check it, then call her with my opinion, 
which I did. I am sure there is a way to do that. Do any of you ever do that, 
while talking check other things on the phone, and how, please? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 


I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the $299 
add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[Kimber Gardner]

An iPhone is a smart phone, but not all smart phones are iPhones.

On 1/4/19, Jewel  wrote:
> Thanks for that Mich, but the article reads as though they, the IPhone and
> the SmartPhone,  are animals of very different colours.
>
>   Jewel
>
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> From: mich verrier
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 12:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> opinion, smart phones in general
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>
> Hi there is no diffrince a smart phone and a eye phone is just the name of
> many diffrint smart phones. For instince you could have a eye phone a
> androide phone and they are each smart phones. All that a smart phone meens
> is that it is a phone that is able to connect to the internet. Hth. From
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Re: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Sandy Finley]

I just called Apple VO support. The rep was very helpful and immediately sentan 
explanation of the problem to  Instant Pot.  He explained that the menus I 
think are not opening actually are, but that when I flick, the app loses focus. 
He said a work around (and it helped) is, once I have double tapped on whatever 
utton  I am trying to activate, do a one-finger single tap on the left side of 
the screen approximately in the middle between the top ad bottom. (So 
horizontally, the tap is on the extreme eft and vertically, it is in the 
middle.) That seems  to temporarily restore focus.  

At the rep’s request, I also sent feedback to InstantPot through the app. 

Onward and Upward!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> you might also try the pass through gesture. Double tap and hold the second 
> tap, when you hear the tritone, lift and then try another tap, or even a 
> double tap.
> The bottom line though, is they need to fix that part of the app.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."
> Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 
> 1648)
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
>> GRRR... Sorry, I meant to type triple tapping. Not double tapping which you 
>> obviously already tried.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cristóbal Muñoz  
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Home Screen on Instant Pot App
>> 
>> Did you by any chance try double tapping or split tapping too? I find that 
>> sometimes, this works for finicky elements. Not often, but sometimes, I'm 
>> lucky.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:23 PM
>> To: IPhone 
>> Subject: Home Screen on Instant Pot App
>> 
>> My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one 
>> question. On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu 
>> button. Again, if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and 
>> he taps, it opens, and in there are all of the settings I have been looking 
>> for, like "my device", etc. Why can I not open that menu?   
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Richard Turner]

Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like 
Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to 
call in.

I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my office 
phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the numbers 
almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in advance and can 
simply edit that part of the contact.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password each 
time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used to 
work.

All the best
Angie


On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Simon,

If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to add a 
comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then save the 
contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how easy it is. 
If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter your account 
number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then enter your 
account number and save.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)





On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.





On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as m

Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Angie Nutt]

But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password each 
time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used to 
work.

All the best
Angie

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Simon,
>  
> If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to add 
> a comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then save 
> the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how easy it 
> is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter your account 
> number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then enter your 
> account number and save.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
> also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
> from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  > wrote:
>  
> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone 
> system answers.
> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
> in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
> to do this for each comma.
>  
> Sentfrom my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  > wrote:
> 
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
> to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
> the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
> are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but 
> I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring 
> to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I 
> also know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have 
> the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head 
> round it; it just isn’t for me.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
>  
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
> they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
> advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
> person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
> smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
> devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
> with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
> to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something 
> here, but I just don't get it.
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
> Audio Pizza:
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Angie Nutt]

We sell it for £225.00 plus £10.00 shipping.

We do know of people who have used it for navigating around their Twitter app 
and have found it particularly useful for this. Also like you say, in a pocket 
etc. I know of someone who has phone in pocket, bluetooth earpiece, and does 
things with RIVO in his hand when out and about. I think people would be less 
interested in stealing that than an iPhone to.

All the best
Angie

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 15:42, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> same here, if it had come out when I got my first iPhone, I probably would 
> have gone for it. unfortunately, by the time the time that the first version 
> came out, I had got fairly used to the touch screen. I can see another 
> application for this device however, that is as a sort of remote, if one is 
> in a situation when one doesn't want to take one's phone out, but may want 
> to access it, such as whilst on horseback for example.
> so as I know you are in the UK, what price are you knocking it out for?
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Angie Nutt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> 
> Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.
> 
> I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a smart 
> phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It could have 
> gone that way I suppose.
> 
> When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if there 
> had been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might have. 
> But as things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread is 
> about, nor for the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the smooth 
> interaction or dare I say, sensual, feel of the screen under my fingers. I 
> do use a bluetooth keyboard if I want to type for any length of time. It is 
> QUERTY as since learning to type as a teenager that’s my preferred method of 
> input.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm one 
>> of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end
>> all of smart things.
>> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging 
>> senses, including touch.
>> 
>> Thanks, R.
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Angie Nutt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> 
>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on
>> with it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
>> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls
>> and I would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an 
>> actual phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers
>> not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know 
>> quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those
>> who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get 
>> my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
>>> for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people
>>> go to and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the 
>>> iPhone or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I
>>> understand that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever 
>>> reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are
>>> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of 
>>> very smart people to work to come up with this incredible
>>> way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype 
>>> make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet
>>> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
>>> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here,
>>> but I just don't get it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Russ Kiehne
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
>>> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a
>>> touch screen, on Audio Pizza:
>>> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp 
>>> 
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