While travelling or when my hands are wet, I wear AirPods or myTrekz Titanium bone conduction headset. This way, I can answer calls, invoke Siri, and do other things while hands are wet. There are ways around so many of these difficulties. I'v used my bank's app for years and it's completely accessible. the only thing I hesitate to try with it is depositing a cheque with my iPHONE's camera. The bank has been pretty responsive to accessibility issues. I once questionned the wisdom of doing banking via app rather than the automatically accessible phone. Those doubts are long behind me.
This sort of thing is why I'm working on the Personal Power iOS edition. Apple has done quite brilliantly at making touchscreens accessible to blind people. However, it does poorly at explaining the possibilities to beginners. With so many completely inaccessible apps, it's easy to lose heart and perspective. Once people stop looking or don't know where to look, they won't find the thousands of fully accessible apps. I hope my guide will at least give people a better start and sense of what's possible. It's not an easy conceptional leap for blind people to master this stuff. I once laughed at the notion of doing much of anything with a flat screen. I now look back at my former thinking with incredulity. . I've written to Apple advocating for a tutorial to take newcomers through the basics of VoiceOver on iOS. I think that would go a long way to reducing tech support calls and get people feeling confident much sooner. Also, more needs to be done to point people to the accesibilty feature which might help them. I've run into more than one blind person who thought Siri was what made iOS devices accessible. They had no idea that VoiceOver even existed. On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 11:34 AM Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor > have I used my bank's app. Besides using the flip phone for this purpose > calling my bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be > able to look up the information you need at any time for another way of > doing it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM > *Subject:* RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen > > Interesting. I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like > Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to > call in. > > > > I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my > office phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the > numbers almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in > advance and can simply edit that part of the contact. > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under > pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Angie Nutt > *Sent:* Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen > > > > But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password > each time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine > used to work. > > > > All the best > > Angie > > > > On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > > > Simon, > > > > If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to > add a comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then > save the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how > easy it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter > your account number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then > enter your account number and save. > > > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf > Of *goshawk on horseback > *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen > > > > same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given. > > also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits > from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call. > > > > Simon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Angie Nutt <an...@comproom.co.uk> > > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen > > > > That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) > > > > > > > > > On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote: > > > > There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it > automatically put in your bank account number. When you are creating the > contact, put in the bank’s phone number. After the number, put in a few > commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s > phone system answers. > > For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, > put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone > number: > > Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen# > > You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma. You > need to do this for each comma. > > > > Sentfrom my iPhone > > > On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we > need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With > inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for > it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Angie Nutt <an...@comproom.co.uk> > > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen > > > > In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t > like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I > personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why > buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it > quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of > course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a > hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original > RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. 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