Woth extreme apologies: OT: Netflix questions and one more question

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi friends,

I am extremely sorry for this but since I know no other group I am
writing here.

How do I know if a particular series on Netflix is audio-described?

Is there good family series on Netflix?

Is there any group where such things could be discussed amongst blind
and VI friends?

Thank you.

Ketan

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RE: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

[pdllogan77]

I have the Roomba 980 which I picked up about 3 years ago.  For the most part 
it does a good job…the app for the most part is accessible…  My apartment is 
about 500 sqft and I run it 3 or 4 times a week.  I’m amazed at the stuff it 
picks up.  I do still run a regular vacuum every 3 or 4 weeks…

 

There is also an Alexa skill for it, so you can run it both ways.  The IPhone 
app lets you schedule cleanings .. you can start and stop the robot .. see the 
battery level and such.  As someone mentioned you do have to empty the bin 
pretty much after every use…the bins aren’t that small.  They do have a newer 
model that will actually dump the bin and it will run several times.

 

HTH 

 

 

 

From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

 

Hi,

 

I’m wondering if there are any good robot vacuums that are accessible and good 
for pet hair.

 

All advice appreciated.

 

Keith

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Re: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

[Donald L. Roberts]

Keith, We bought a Shark iRobot 851 for Christmas and have been quite 
pleased with how easy it is to use. There are only three buttons on the 
unit, clean, deep clean, and return to the docking station.



The iPhone app isn't much to shout about, but the vac itself works fine 
and is easy to use.



Don Roberts


On 7/9/2019 4:07 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone wrote:


Hi,

I’m wondering if there are any good robot vacuums that are accessible 
and good for pet hair.


All advice appreciated.

Keith

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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Anthony Vece]

Hey Rich;
I got it.
Thank you
God bless
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is very strange. I'm in Oregon, so using the same app store.
> 
> If you try this link and it says open, then you may already have the update.
> Seeing AI by Microsoft Corporation 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai/id999062298
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> On Jul 9, 2019, at 6:42 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
>> I did that however the update wasn’t there maybe it’ll take a day or two
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>> 
 On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sometimes you have to do the three finger swipe down on the updates screen 
>>> to get it to say Refreshing page, before the updates show up.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried the short text since the update?
>>> I've never had problems with the short text channel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>>> indistinguishable from magic." 
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 9, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
 
 The update is not showing up here in New Jersey.
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
 
> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yes that's why I acknowledged that it wasn't a fair comparison by any 
> means. I was just pointing out that the short text channel had become 
> much, much less responsive let alone accurate for me in recent times with 
> no clue why.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI has an update
> 
> 
> Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream 
> Scanner would be better.
> I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now 
> that Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they 
> are pretty even on accuracy.
> Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, 
> but the issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology 
> is indistinguishable from magic."
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cff43a7fff1fc4bf05da108d704d7e806%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983197664536473&sdata=to6ZYLdgl8BzknHv2THPIhARFZINf5g2P6PwLUQlQlM%3D&reserved=0
> 
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel 
>> has been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing 
>> has changed on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the 
>> water in terms of accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking 
>> of the short text channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's 
>> just been my experience.
>> Take good care.
>> Robin
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
>> To: ViPone list
>> Subject: Seeing AI has an update
>> 
>> If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that 
>> you do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the 
>> improvements:
>> Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will 
>> stop recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition 
>> will start again when the phone is moved.
>> Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone 
>> does not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now 
>> works with document stands .
>> Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
>> Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology 
>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cff43a7fff1fc4bf05da108d704d7e806%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983197664536473&sdata=to6ZYLdgl8BzknHv2THPIhARFZINf5g2P6PwLUQlQlM%3D&reserved=0
>> 
>> 
>

RE: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Roomba 980.

Wait for Amazon Prime day. You can score good deals. If you don’t have carpet, 
get Roomba 960.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deidre 
Muccio
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet 
hair?

 

I forgot to mention that I have a dog that sheds a lot. The brushes are much 
harder to clean than the rollers. It picks up a lot of fine dirt  And dog hair 
as well both on wood floors and carpet. I love mine. The bin would need to be 
emptied out each time you used it depending on how dirty or furry your floors 
are.

Deidre

 


On Jul 9, 2019, at 7:07 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m wondering if there are any good robot vacuums that are accessible and good 
for pet hair.

 

All advice appreciated.

 

Keith

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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Richard Turner]

That is very strange. I'm in Oregon, so using the same app store.

If you try this link and it says open, then you may already have the update.
Seeing AI by Microsoft Corporation
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai/id999062298

Richard

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indistinguishable from magic."
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On Jul 9, 2019, at 6:42 PM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I did that however the update wasn’t there maybe it’ll take a day or two

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Sometimes you have to do the three finger swipe down on the updates screen to 
get it to say Refreshing page, before the updates show up.

Has anyone tried the short text since the update?
I've never had problems with the short text channel.



Richard

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On Jul 9, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The update is not showing up here in New Jersey.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
Yes that's why I acknowledged that it wasn't a fair comparison by any means. I 
was just pointing out that the short text channel had become much, much less 
responsive let alone accurate for me in recent times with no clue why.
Robin


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI has an update


Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream Scanner 
would be better.
I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now that 
Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they are pretty 
even on accuracy.
Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, but the 
issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.

Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
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On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel has 
been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has changed 
on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water in terms of 
accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the short text channel 
which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been my experience.
Take good care.
Robin

-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI has an update

If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that you do. 
The document channel works much better now. Here are the improvements:
Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will start 
again when the phone is moved.
Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone does not 
need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works with document 
stands .
Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB


Richard

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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Anthony Vece]

I did that however the update wasn’t there maybe it’ll take a day or two

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sometimes you have to do the three finger swipe down on the updates screen to 
> get it to say Refreshing page, before the updates show up.
> 
> Has anyone tried the short text since the update?
> I've never had problems with the short text channel.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> The update is not showing up here in New Jersey.
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes that's why I acknowledged that it wasn't a fair comparison by any 
>>> means. I was just pointing out that the short text channel had become much, 
>>> much less responsive let alone accurate for me in recent times with no clue 
>>> why.
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:07 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI has an update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream 
>>> Scanner would be better.
>>> I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now that 
>>> Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they are 
>>> pretty even on accuracy.
>>> Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, but 
>>> the issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>>> indistinguishable from magic."
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce024b8f1dc76438c43f608d704ccc50e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983149829445866&sdata=ee1zH3%2BXVfp%2Bt3DBQlzPnRmrb6F5VMboUJxw25v9aYA%3D&reserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel 
 has been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has 
 changed on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water 
 in terms of accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the 
 short text channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been 
 my experience.
 Take good care.
 Robin
 
 -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
 Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
 To: ViPone list
 Subject: Seeing AI has an update
 
 If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that 
 you do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the 
 improvements:
 Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
 recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will 
 start again when the phone is moved.
 Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone 
 does not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works 
 with document stands .
 Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
 Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB
 
 
 Richard
 
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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Richard Turner]

Sometimes you have to do the three finger swipe down on the updates screen to 
get it to say Refreshing page, before the updates show up.

Has anyone tried the short text since the update?
I've never had problems with the short text channel.



Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> The update is not showing up here in New Jersey.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Yes that's why I acknowledged that it wasn't a fair comparison by any means. 
>> I was just pointing out that the short text channel had become much, much 
>> less responsive let alone accurate for me in recent times with no clue why.
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI has an update
>> 
>> 
>> Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream 
>> Scanner would be better.
>> I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now that 
>> Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they are pretty 
>> even on accuracy.
>> Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, but 
>> the issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>> indistinguishable from magic."
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>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel has 
>>> been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has 
>>> changed on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water in 
>>> terms of accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the short 
>>> text channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been my 
>>> experience.
>>> Take good care.
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
>>> To: ViPone list
>>> Subject: Seeing AI has an update
>>> 
>>> If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that you 
>>> do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the improvements:
>>> Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
>>> recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will 
>>> start again when the phone is moved.
>>> Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone does 
>>> not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works with 
>>> document stands .
>>> Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
>>> Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>>> indistinguishable from magic."
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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Re: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

[Deidre Muccio]

I forgot to mention that I have a dog that sheds a lot. The brushes are much 
harder to clean than the rollers. It picks up a lot of fine dirt  And dog hair 
as well both on wood floors and carpet. I love mine. The bin would need to be 
emptied out each time you used it depending on how dirty or furry your floors 
are.

Deidre


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> I’m wondering if there are any good robot vacuums that are accessible and 
> good for pet hair.
>  
> All advice appreciated.
>  
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Re: Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

[Deidre Muccio]

I have a Cosco basic Irobot Roomba something like an 803. It works great. I got 
the one with two rollers not the brushes by recommendation from someone who 
works at iRobot. It really does work well and it's pretty easy to clean. It's a 
pet of sorts. I love it. You have to work with it though. You cant have a lot 
of loose little things on the ground or wires. But you will get an error 
message if it gets itself in trouble. That means of a shoelace gets caught in 
it, or a little plastic bag, or wires. This one that I have is a basic model. 
It has no Wi-Fi. No mapping capacity. It just randomly uses sonar that works 
acoustically so when it finds dirt stays in that spot till it picks it up. It 
has a function of doing a spot clean which does makes the robot  move in a 
circle within a circle in an area that you particularly want done where perhaps 
you've spilled something like cat litter or Christmas tree Pineneedles. Or just 
a big pile of dirt in one spot. Check out the YouTube the Irobot videos. They 
are hilarious Also you can't use it on anything wet or it will smear that all 
over. So if you have an animal that is in continent, perhaps a sick or an old 
animal, you won't want to leave the I robot unsupervised. Anything that's wet 
or sticky or really gross on the floor will get spread around.

Deidre


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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Anthony Vece]

The update is not showing up here in New Jersey.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yes that's why I acknowledged that it wasn't a fair comparison by any means. 
> I was just pointing out that the short text channel had become much, much 
> less responsive let alone accurate for me in recent times with no clue why.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI has an update
> 
> 
> Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream Scanner 
> would be better.
> I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now that 
> Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they are pretty 
> even on accuracy.
> Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, but 
> the issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic."
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel has 
>> been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has 
>> changed on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water in 
>> terms of accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the short 
>> text channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been my 
>> experience.
>> Take good care.
>> Robin
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
>> To: ViPone list
>> Subject: Seeing AI has an update
>> 
>> If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that you 
>> do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the improvements:
>> Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
>> recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will start 
>> again when the phone is moved.
>> Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone does 
>> not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works with 
>> document stands .
>> Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
>> Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>> indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes that's why I acknowledged that it wasn't a fair comparison by any means. 
I was just pointing out that the short text channel had become much, much 
less responsive let alone accurate for me in recent times with no clue why.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI has an update


Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream 
Scanner would be better.
I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now that 
Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they are pretty 
even on accuracy.
Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, but 
the issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com



On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel 
has been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has 
changed on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water 
in terms of accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the 
short text channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been 
my experience.

Take good care.
Robin

-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI has an update

If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that 
you do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the 
improvements:
Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will 
start again when the phone is moved.
Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone 
does not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works 
with document stands .

Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB


Richard

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is indistinguishable from magic."

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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Richard Turner]

Actually comparing the document channel in Seeing AI with Voice Dream Scanner 
would be better.
I would choose Voice Dream Scanner if I wanted to keep a scan, but now that 
Seeing AI can doesn't need to be so high above the document, they are pretty 
even on accuracy.
Voice Dream Scanner is still faster since it doesn't need the internet, but the 
issues with Seeing AI and its donecument channel are gone.

Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel has 
> been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has changed 
> on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water in terms of 
> accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the short text 
> channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been my experience.
> Take good care.
> Robin
> 
> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: Seeing AI has an update
> 
> If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that you 
> do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the improvements:
> Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
> recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will start 
> again when the phone is moved.
> Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone does 
> not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works with 
> document stands .
> Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
> Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic."
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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IPad Swift Playgrounds and working with Contacts

[Ryan Mann]

Hello.  Me and a friend are using Swift Playgrounds on an iPad to learn Swift.  
Right now, we are trying to work with the Contacts framework to do things such 
as add contacts.  When I try to import the Contacts framework using the 
statement “import Contacts”, Playgrounds tells me that the module doesn’t 
exist.  I don’t think I can do anything with contacts without using this 
framework.  Is this framework only available on Xcode on a Mac?  I thought 
Swift Playgrounds had access to all Swift frameworks.


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Re: Seeing AI has an update

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Interesting you bring this up as in recent weeks the short text channel has 
been very underwhelming for me. It's quite the mystery as nothing has 
changed on my end. But VoiceDream Scanner is blowing it out of the water in 
terms of accuracy and responsiveness. Again I'm only speaking of the short 
text channel which perhaps isn't a fair comparison. It's just been my 
experience.

Take good care.
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 3:31 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI has an update

If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that you 
do. The document channel works much better now. Here are the improvements:
Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will start 
again when the phone is moved.
Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone does 
not need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works with 
document stands .

Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements.,
Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB


Richard

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indistinguishable from magic."

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Are there any robot vacuums that are accessible and good for pet hair?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I'm wondering if there are any good robot vacuums that are accessible and good 
for pet hair.

All advice appreciated.

Keith

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RE: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% VoiceOver Accessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

I am glad that you have confirmed the app crashing issue with Pill Reminder 
support.

And, yes, you are quite correct, I have updated to the full version.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% 
VoiceOver Accessible


Hi Mark,

The Pill Reminder crashing problem I detailed in yesterday's post was confirmed 
by Pill Reminder Support when I reported it to them yesterday. They said they 
would fix it with the next update.

If you are unable to replicate the problem, perhaps you have updated to the 
paid from the free version where I'm experiencing the issue.

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 11:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
> As I stated in a previous post, I have not experienced any app crashes when 
> running in iOS 12.x.
> 
> To upgrade to the full version on iPhone:
> 
> 1.
> Open the App.  If you're running the app on a plus size phone, there will be 
> 5 buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  They are, from left to 
> right, Medications, Reminders, Calendar, Refills, and More.  
> 
> 2.
> Single-finger, double-tap the More button.  The buttons on the bottom row 
> will change to the following, from left to right:  Appointments, Reports, As 
> Needed, and More.
> 
> 3.
> Single-finger, double-tap the More button.  The buttons on the bottom row 
> will change to the following, from left to right:  Users, Options, and More.
> 
> 4.
> Select the Options button.  A list of options will fill the display.  Explore 
> this list until you come across the one that allows you to upgrade to the 
> full version.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 6:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% 
> VoiceOver Accessible
> 
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I'm with you. While I very much appreciate Mark telling us about this app, I 
> find it is crashing very often and I have added a pill to it and it is still 
> crashing. If I place focus on the bottomline menu at the far right and start 
> swiping left to cycle through the option buttons, when the last button on the 
> left is passed on a swipe left, the app closes. I believe I also experienced 
> it closing when swiping through option buttons at the top of the main screen 
> after getting to the last button on the right and swiping right one more time.
> 
> I did find where you can do the in app purchase from the free version. At the 
> far right of the bottomline menu is a more button. When executed, it places 
> another set of bottomline buttons on the screen. If you press the more button 
> on this second set of buttons, yet another set of buttons opens on the 
> bottomline menu. I believe the options button is included on this third set 
> and it opens a screen where you can purchase the upgrade. I don't believe I 
> will be purchasing it now based on my experience.
> 
> I'm using an iPhone 8 running the latest iOS version.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Richard Petty  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am attempting to use this app. I find it still unstable. It closes often, 
>> even when I confine most of my activity to the area at the bottom of the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> I have entered two medications and their reminders. What circumstance 
>> triggers a prompt for payment from within the app? No notice has appeared 
>> and I cannot find another route to in-app purchase.
>> 
>> Thanks to all.
>> 
>> Richard Petty
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Arlene
>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 2:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 
>> 100% VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> Sieghard, you're exactly right about in the free version you could 
>> only have
>> 2 rminders. Actually we did get the free version, but we're thinking 
>> about getting the paid version.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 2:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 
>> 100% VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> 
>> And unless I am mistaken I think in the description it mentioned that 
>> in the free version  you can add only two reminders.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 11:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 
>> 100% VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> Hello Arlene,
>> 
>> Keep in mind that adding a medication to the app and crea

Seeing AI has an update

[Richard Turner]

If you have not installed the Seeing AI update, I highly recommend that you do. 
The document channel works much better now. Here are the improvements:
Seeing AI, Yesterday, Introducing a new battery saver mode which will stop 
recognizing if nothing is found for a period of time. Recognition will start 
again when the phone is moved. 
Increased the field of view on the Document channel, so that the phone does not 
need to be as far away. This also means that Seeing AI now works with document 
stands .
Plus, a number of bug fixes and internal improvements., 
Version 3.1 • 227.5 MB


Richard

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indistinguishable from magic." 
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Re: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% VoiceOver Accessible

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark,

The Pill Reminder crashing problem I detailed in yesterday's post was confirmed 
by Pill Reminder Support when I reported it to them yesterday. They said they 
would fix it with the next update.

If you are unable to replicate the problem, perhaps you have updated to the 
paid from the free version where I'm experiencing the issue.

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 11:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
> As I stated in a previous post, I have not experienced any app crashes when 
> running in iOS 12.x.
> 
> To upgrade to the full version on iPhone:
> 
> 1.
> Open the App.  If you're running the app on a plus size phone, there will be 
> 5 buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  They are, from left to 
> right, Medications, Reminders, Calendar, Refills, and More.  
> 
> 2.
> Single-finger, double-tap the More button.  The buttons on the bottom row 
> will change to the following, from left to right:  Appointments, Reports, As 
> Needed, and More.
> 
> 3.
> Single-finger, double-tap the More button.  The buttons on the bottom row 
> will change to the following, from left to right:  Users, Options, and More.
> 
> 4.
> Select the Options button.  A list of options will fill the display.  Explore 
> this list until you come across the one that allows you to upgrade to the 
> full version.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 6:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% 
> VoiceOver Accessible
> 
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I'm with you. While I very much appreciate Mark telling us about this app, I 
> find it is crashing very often and I have added a pill to it and it is still 
> crashing. If I place focus on the bottomline menu at the far right and start 
> swiping left to cycle through the option buttons, when the last button on the 
> left is passed on a swipe left, the app closes. I believe I also experienced 
> it closing when swiping through option buttons at the top of the main screen 
> after getting to the last button on the right and swiping right one more time.
> 
> I did find where you can do the in app purchase from the free version. At the 
> far right of the bottomline menu is a more button. When executed, it places 
> another set of bottomline buttons on the screen. If you press the more button 
> on this second set of buttons, yet another set of buttons opens on the 
> bottomline menu. I believe the options button is included on this third set 
> and it opens a screen where you can purchase the upgrade. I don't believe I 
> will be purchasing it now based on my experience.
> 
> I'm using an iPhone 8 running the latest iOS version.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Richard Petty  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am attempting to use this app. I find it still unstable. It closes often, 
>> even when I confine most of my activity to the area at the bottom of the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> I have entered two medications and their reminders. What circumstance 
>> triggers a prompt for payment from within the app? No notice has appeared 
>> and I cannot find another route to in-app purchase.
>> 
>> Thanks to all.
>> 
>> Richard Petty
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Arlene
>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 2:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% 
>> VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> Sieghard, you're exactly right about in the free version you could 
>> only have
>> 2 rminders. Actually we did get the free version, but we're thinking 
>> about getting the paid version.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 2:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% 
>> VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> 
>> And unless I am mistaken I think in the description it mentioned that 
>> in the free version  you can add only two reminders.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 11:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Here is a Fabulous Pill Reminder App for iOS that is 100% 
>> VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> Hello Arlene,
>> 
>> Keep in mind that adding a medication to the app and creating a 
>> reminder as to when to takethat medication are two separate actions.
>> 
>> So, one you add a particular medication, all you need do is to select 
>> the done button located near the upper right corner of the display.
>> 
>> The next step will be to open the reminders section of the app and 
>> from there, you will select the name of the medication that you added 
>> in the previous step.  Fill in the reminder preferences and remember