RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

But they wont go back to flip phones unless they are very basic usage
Similar to what they have done with the nokia 3310 candy bar with the cut down 
android version and next to no internet / media support.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 10 February 2020 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

The only time phones will get smaller is when they figure out the folding 
display, otherwise I highly doubt you will see something with a 4 inch screen 
like the iPhone SE in a very long time.
Of course they could easily make a 4.7 inch phone which is what the iPhone 
6S/7/8 are as small or even smaller with the same screen size if they make them 
without Touch Id, getting rid of the big bezels at the top, bottom as well as 
left and right would easily make that possible. There are already rumours that 
the iPhone 12 will no longer have the notch and that instead the Facetime 
camera and all sensors will be embedded in a very thin bezel along the top of 
the phone.
If you consider the current iPhone Se, which is 123mm long and 58mm wide, this 
actually means it is just over 5.3 inches from corner to corner diagonally yet 
it only has a 4 inch screen.
Without the home button taking up so much space across the bottom and with say 
a quarter inch bezel across the top for Facetime sensors, front camera and so 
on they could easily fit a 4.7 inch screen into that form factor.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Dennis Long]

Its just several years from being rolled out.  Even than when it first comes 
out there is probably going to be issues.  If you want a new phone at an 
affordable price grab the iPhone9.  I will.  I have android and iOS.  I have 
noticed some things are better on iPhone though especially if you use a 
physical keyboard.  Plus some apps will work better on  one platform than 
another.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 2:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Yeah 5G,

 

I’m interested in it for the data speeds but I don’t see the networks and or 
hardware being up to scratch for a couple of years yet 

 

Not to mention  there is some great arguements around new Zealand currently 
about why we shouldn’t go to 5 g,

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 10 February 2020 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah,

And if you look at the records,

2000 work station was great,
Me was crap,
Xp was great,
Vista was dog poo,
7 was fantastic
8 & 8.1 extrmely questionable 
10 excellent. Server 2019 hmmm, I'm not sure I'm happy with it being so cloud 
based.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, 10 February 2020 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Just for clarification, Vista came before Windows 7.

https://www.computerhope.com/history/windows.htm

HTH,
Rick
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?


And you forgot 98SE, ME (Millenium
Edition which was between 98SE and XP and Vista which came between 7 and 8. 
Oh, and there was of course also 8.1.

But of course that has little to do with the iPhone which nobody knows what 
Apple will call it, SE 2 or 9 or something entirely different, but somehow I 
actually think iPhone 9 is the least likely.
As far as the phone itself it will probably a winner just as the SE was, it 
will have the same size and screen size as the iPhone 8 but with most likely 
the latest A13 chip, but still with Touch Id and a camera system probably 
better than that of the 8, maybe that of the XR. And it will of course be a 
budget phone at least according to Apple standards.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 12:36 AM
To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Hello

On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 and 
10 iirc in this order.




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  'RobH.' via VIPhone kirjoitti
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so 
> presumed 9 had been left behind a couple of years back.
> Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...
>
> Tia, RobH.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Long" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:01 AM
> Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>
>
> What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?
>
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah 5G,

I’m interested in it for the data speeds but I don’t see the networks and or 
hardware being up to scratch for a couple of years yet

Not to mention  there is some great arguements around new Zealand currently 
about why we shouldn’t go to 5 g,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 10 February 2020 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
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Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I count 98 se as being 98 in general.

 Even though 98 sE is where USB started.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 10 February 2020 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

And you forgot 98SE, ME (Millenium
Edition which was between 98SE and XP and Vista which came between 7 and 8. Oh, 
and there was of course also 8.1.

But of course that has little to do with the iPhone which nobody knows what 
Apple will call it, SE 2 or 9 or something entirely different, but somehow I 
actually think iPhone 9 is the least likely.
As far as the phone itself it will probably a winner just as the SE was, it 
will have the same size and screen size as the iPhone 8 but with most likely 
the latest A13 chip, but still with Touch Id and a camera system probably 
better than that of the 8, maybe that of the XR. And it will of course be a 
budget phone at least according to Apple standards.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 12:36 AM
To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Hello

On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 and 10 
iirc in this order.




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> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 9 
> had been left behind a couple of years back.
> Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...
>
> Tia, RobH.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Long" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:01 AM
> Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>
>
> What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?
>
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Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless charging, have a question about an iPhone case

[Arlene]

We reaaly like the black webb speakers for $15, and we too have some of the 
black webb blue tooth key boards and they are really great.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 7:16 PM
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charging, have a question about an iPhone case



Mine is called a Black Webb. It came from Wal-Mart, as I have said and was 
$19.99. So far, I have had no problem with it. It is so convenient to just 
lay the phone on the thing, and away she goes charging!


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charging, have a question about an iPhone case


Because that is what it said when I ordered mine from Amazon Canada and they 
didn't last more than 2 months and one thing you can be certain of is that 
Apple will not sell on Amazon.
I have a retail business and sell a brand of optics called Vortex. They make 
binoculars, spotting scopes, rifle scopes and so on and you can find their 
stuff on Amazon and all the while Vortex has no idea where it comes from 
since they say it most certainly does not come from them or any of their 
dealers who care because if Vortex found out that dealer would be not a 
dealer any more.
If you think Amazon itself really cares whether its sellers sell authentic 
or knock-off products you'd be surprised. You have to remember that anyone 
can sell on Amazon whether it's a responsible seller who cares about what 
they sell or a few Chinese or other Asian renegades who produce a copy of 
something, maybe even in the same factory where the authentic product is 
made. If you ever go to any of the large markets in Vietname, Cambodia or 
Hong Kong you'd be surprised how much "authentic" looking North Face 
clothing, Louis Vuitton, Chanel or other designer stuff is sold.


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Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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charging, have a question about an iPhone case


In the product description it states that the manufacturer is Apple. So why 
do you say they could be knock-offs?

Marie
o

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charging, have a question about an iPhone case


Those are exactly what would have come with your iPhone as long as you in 
fact ordered the lightning version and not the 3.5mm version.
But, having said this, I ordered a pair of these as well because they are 
cheaper than from Apple, but while they were almost identical I can't swear 
that they were and I am thinking they might be a knock-off. The ones I 
ordered lasted all of 2 months whereas I usually get at least a year out of 
the original Apple ones and I use them all the time, roll them over my hand 
and stuff them in my pocket, I have gotten hooked on something with the cord 
and all that. Just saying.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:38 AM
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charging, have a question about an iPhone case


Here is one link to one set of ear buds.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-EarPods-Lightning-Connector-White/dp/B01M0GB8CC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=apple+wired+earbuds=1581186986=8-3

On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Are they over the head type headsets or earbuds?
Can  you post a link?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

Those headsets were about $20 a piece.

On 2/8/20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I agree.  I bought 2 apple cables with a lightning plug on one end,
and a spot to plug in my wired headphones for about $8 per adapter.
I've got a couple different apple headsets coming that connect direct
to my iPhone via the lightning port.

On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Not sure what you mean, in my message I simply pointed out that some
of the really cheap stuff on Amazon is also very cheap quality and
may not work so great.
If I saw a Lightning headset for $8 and it did not have Apple's MFI
certification I would probably question its usefulness including
sound and build quality.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:01 AM
To: 

RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear ?Carolyn & List:
I find the big advantage of a larger screen is the on-screen menus and 
keyboards are easier to use. With my iPhone 4S, my big hands could barely use 
the on-screen keypad to enter my password. On the XS Max, it is a snap! Brian 
K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?
I remember when I was so certain about that size of the SE; it seemed about the 
size of my 4S. It is surprising how quick I got used to the 11. Before getting 
it, I kept asking people to let me see their phones. I'd hold them and sort of 
got the feel of bigger phones. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kitty evener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iPhone SE.  
Newer phones are just too big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021, 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned its money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free a d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3G of ram.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone7?
I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on its pending release.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Dennis Long
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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What is people’s thought on the iPhone 9?


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Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Cristobal Munoz]

Indeed, if I didn’t have my XR, I’d be all over this bad boy like white on rice.
But since I do… I’m going to try to get at least three years out of it. I paid 
full price unlocked in addition to the apple care plan since I am an iPhone 
dropper. So… After taxes, I paid around 1200 bucks. It’s always tempting to go 
for the newest thing, but I should be good for the three years and probably 
four. 

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming 
> phone?
> Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for 
> another 2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about 
> buying this upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
> Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
> with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
> generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
> display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
> products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
> even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 
> 2021 I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by 
> then my iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old 
> and it will have earned it’s money.
> I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
> course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
> providers get their money out of you.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne 
> West
> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>  
> Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
> 13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
> features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
> enthused about spending more money.
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>  
> I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button 
> and have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>  
> I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
> release.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>  
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I wonder what makes you believe this, sighted people want big screens because a 
mobile phone nowadays is not just a phone any more where  you want to text and 
make phone calls, it’s a powerful computer and people expect more and more of 
these devices and while they may figure out how to make them fold, there is 
absolutely no way screens will return to being 3.5 or 4 inches, nobody wants 
that except maybe a few blind people.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

that's Right!! Good Things come  IN small packages
&
Yes, I too Believe, the Trend will Reverse Back to Smaller or Compact 
MobilePhones again
At 04:48 PM 2/9/2020, you wrote:

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming 
phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying 
this upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The 4S was even smaller as it only had a 3.5 inch screen, the iPhone 5, 5S and 
SE have a 4 inch screen and iPhone 6, 6S, 7 and 8 have a 4.7 inch screen.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I remember when I was so certain about that size of the SE; it seemed about the 
size of my 4S. It is surprising how quick I got used to the 11. Before getting 
it, I kept asking people to let me see their phones. I'd hold them and sort of 
got the feel of bigger phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here is the difference, first number is the iPhone SE, second the iPhone 8 and 
third is the difference:
Length: 123mm, 138mm, 15mm
Width: 58mm, 65mm, 7mm
That may not sound much, but it’s actually not so little, either, 15mm more in 
length is just a touch less than five eight of an inch or a little more than 
double the thickness of an iPhone 8
7mm more in width is a little over a quarter of an inch or about the thickness 
of the iPhone 8 which is 7.3mm thick.
The SE weighs 113 grams whereas the iPhone 8 is 148 grams, a difference of 35 
grams or just a bit more than 1 ounce.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

The iPhone 8 is only a little bigger than the SE.  I don’t think we will ever 
see a phone that small again.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Carolyn]

The Home Button? Screen space. That is why I do not think it will reappear on 
this upcoming new phone whatever it is. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

The only time phones will get smaller is when they figure out the folding 
display, otherwise I highly doubt you will see something with a 4 inch screen 
like the iPhone SE in a very long time.

Of course they could easily make a 4.7 inch phone which is what the iPhone 
6S/7/8 are as small or even smaller with the same screen size if they make them 
without Touch Id, getting rid of the big bezels at the top, bottom as well as 
left and right would easily make that possible. There are already rumours that 
the iPhone 12 will no longer have the notch and that instead the Facetime 
camera and all sensors will be embedded in a very thin bezel along the top of 
the phone.

If you consider the current iPhone Se, which is 123mm long and 58mm wide, this 
actually means it is just over 5.3 inches from corner to corner diagonally yet 
it only has a 4 inch screen.

Without the home button taking up so much space across the bottom and with say 
a quarter inch bezel across the top for Facetime sensors, front camera and so 
on they could easily fit a 4.7 inch screen into that form factor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Carolyn]

I remember when I was so certain about that size of the SE; it seemed about the 
size of my 4S. It is surprising how quick I got used to the 11. Before getting 
it, I kept asking people to let me see their phones. I'd hold them and sort of 
got the feel of bigger phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The only time phones will get smaller is when they figure out the folding 
display, otherwise I highly doubt you will see something with a 4 inch screen 
like the iPhone SE in a very long time.
Of course they could easily make a 4.7 inch phone which is what the iPhone 
6S/7/8 are as small or even smaller with the same screen size if they make them 
without Touch Id, getting rid of the big bezels at the top, bottom as well as 
left and right would easily make that possible. There are already rumours that 
the iPhone 12 will no longer have the notch and that instead the Facetime 
camera and all sensors will be embedded in a very thin bezel along the top of 
the phone.
If you consider the current iPhone Se, which is 123mm long and 58mm wide, this 
actually means it is just over 5.3 inches from corner to corner diagonally yet 
it only has a 4 inch screen.
Without the home button taking up so much space across the bottom and with say 
a quarter inch bezel across the top for Facetime sensors, front camera and so 
on they could easily fit a 4.7 inch screen into that form factor.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?

What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Carolyn]

Whoever gets it, I hope that person will tell us all about it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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RE: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless charging, have a question about an iPhone case

[Carolyn]

Mine is called a Black Webb. It came from Wal-Mart, as I have said and was 
$19.99. So far, I have had no problem with it. It is so convenient to just lay 
the phone on the thing, and away she goes charging! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

Because that is what it said when I ordered mine from Amazon Canada and they 
didn't last more than 2 months and one thing you can be certain of is that 
Apple will not sell on Amazon.
I have a retail business and sell a brand of optics called Vortex. They make 
binoculars, spotting scopes, rifle scopes and so on and you can find their 
stuff on Amazon and all the while Vortex has no idea where it comes from since 
they say it most certainly does not come from them or any of their dealers who 
care because if Vortex found out that dealer would be not a dealer any more.
If you think Amazon itself really cares whether its sellers sell authentic or 
knock-off products you'd be surprised. You have to remember that anyone can 
sell on Amazon whether it's a responsible seller who cares about what they sell 
or a few Chinese or other Asian renegades who produce a copy of something, 
maybe even in the same factory where the authentic product is made. If you ever 
go to any of the large markets in Vietname, Cambodia or Hong Kong you'd be 
surprised how much "authentic" looking North Face clothing, Louis Vuitton, 
Chanel or other designer stuff is sold.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

In the product description it states that the manufacturer is Apple. So why do 
you say they could be knock-offs?
Marie
o

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

Those are exactly what would have come with your iPhone as long as you in fact 
ordered the lightning version and not the 3.5mm version.
But, having said this, I ordered a pair of these as well because they are 
cheaper than from Apple, but while they were almost identical I can't swear 
that they were and I am thinking they might be a knock-off. The ones I ordered 
lasted all of 2 months whereas I usually get at least a year out of the 
original Apple ones and I use them all the time, roll them over my hand and 
stuff them in my pocket, I have gotten hooked on something with the cord and 
all that. Just saying.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

Here is one link to one set of ear buds.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-EarPods-Lightning-Connector-White/dp/B01M0GB8CC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=apple+wired+earbuds=1581186986=8-3

On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Are they over the head type headsets or earbuds?
> Can  you post a link?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
> charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>
> Those headsets were about $20 a piece.
>
> On 2/8/20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I agree.  I bought 2 apple cables with a lightning plug on one end, 
>> and a spot to plug in my wired headphones for about $8 per adapter.
>> I've got a couple different apple headsets coming that connect direct 
>> to my iPhone via the lightning port.
>>
>> On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Not sure what you mean, in my message I simply pointed out that some 
>>> of the really cheap stuff on Amazon is also very cheap quality and 
>>> may not work so great.
>>> If I saw a Lightning headset for $8 and it did not have Apple's MFI 
>>> certification I would probably question its usefulness including 
>>> sound and build quality.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:01 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: how important is it to have a lightning port and 
>>> wireless charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>>>
>>> Super cheap? How much is the average cost, Sieghard, please?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: Voice control on the 6S

[Aedan Something]

A lot of voice control’s problems can be solved by saying "command mode" when 
you don’t want to dictate normally. You can still say "type " to 
dictate what you say before you pause when Voiceover is focussed on a text 
field. I can’t find a setting in voice control settings to turn command mode on 
by default.
Aedan

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Great!
> The other option is to use headphones when using Voice Control so it doesn't 
> hear VoiceOver talking.
> I forgot I had Voice Control on and went into the living room while the TV 
> was on and started to write an Email.  Well, if you ever want to get  quotes 
> from the TV, it does an OK job; just not helpful when trying to write an 
> email, grin.
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Ingraham
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi Richard, 
> 
> I spoke with Apple Accessibility last night. Both reps were extremely 
> helpful. 
> 
> Based on my conversation with the reps and my experience, vo and voice 
> command are tripping over each other. It appears if you have voice command 
> turned on, your phone is in a listening mode.As we use vo, voice command is 
> hearing vo and responding to the vo voice. I had my phone sitting next to my 
> computer yesterday. My phone kept trying to respond to JAWS. 
> 
> The one rep suggestedif I want to use voice command to turn vo off. I didn't 
> try it. I was so glad to have my phone up and running that I decided I will 
> wait for a few more updates before trying voice command again. BTW, both reps 
> were able to replicate the problems I described. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Lynda 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Voice control is not Siri.
> It is completely independent of Siri.
> If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if 
> you say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure 
> you want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the 
> center of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
> The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
> 
> It works flawlessly for me.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and 
> not being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using 
> voice control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when 
> I tell Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to 
> restart by double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart 
> my phone myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have 
> voiceover on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting 
> with no active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This 
> voiceover cutting off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. 
> And I thought you had a really elegant solution.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
>> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
>> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Dennis Long]

The iPhone 8 is only a little bigger than the SE.  I don’t think we will ever 
see a phone that small again.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

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Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Robin]

that's Right!! Good Things come  IN small packages
&
Yes, I too Believe, the Trend will Reverse Back 
to Smaller or Compact MobilePhones again

At 04:48 PM 2/9/2020, you wrote:
Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really 
like the size of the iphone SE. Â Newer phones 
are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend 
will go toward smaller again.  Smile!!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

If you don’t want to spend the money then why 
bother to buy this upcoming phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it 
will serve you well for another 2 years, I have 
one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream 
about buying this upcoming phone which almost 
certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends 
greatly on what Apple comes up with, but for me 
it is also unlikely since it will probably have 
first generation support for 5G, and maybe even 
first generation support for under display touch 
ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are 
such mature products and so expensive that I 
want to get at least 3 years out of one and even 
better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone 
comes out in the fall of 2021 I get a model 
which better supports some of these new 
technologies, by then my iPhone 8 which I only 
bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old 
and it will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them 
to upgrade each year, but of course these types 
of plans don’t come for free an d in the end 
Apple and the providers get their money out of you.



From: 
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<viphone@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of Anne West

Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all 
worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 13 bugs disappear 
and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable 
with 13 features. I will scoop up a 9 if that 
happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not enthused about spending more money.


Anne


From: 
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On Behalf Of Dennis Long

Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the 
iPhone 8 have a home button and have the chip 
from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.


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On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and 
related info on it’s pending release.


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[kitty hevener]

Don’t think I will be buying it.  I really like the size of the iphone SE.  
Newer phones are just to big.  Surely, sometime, the trend will go toward 
smaller again.  Smile!!

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

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Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Richard]

Just for clarification, Vista came before Windows 7.

https://www.computerhope.com/history/windows.htm

HTH,
Rick
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?


And you forgot 98SE, ME (Millenium
Edition which was between 98SE and XP and Vista which came between 7 and 8. 
Oh, and there was of course also 8.1.

But of course that has little to do with the iPhone which nobody knows what 
Apple will call it, SE 2 or 9 or something entirely different, but somehow I 
actually think iPhone 9 is the least likely.
As far as the phone itself it will probably a winner just as the SE was, it 
will have the same size and screen size as the iPhone 8 but with most likely 
the latest A13 chip, but still with Touch Id and a camera system probably 
better than that of the 8, maybe that of the XR. And it will of course be a 
budget phone at least according to Apple standards.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 12:36 AM
To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Hello

On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 and 
10 iirc in this order.




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  'RobH.' via VIPhone kirjoitti
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so 
> presumed 9 had been left behind a couple of years back.
> Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...
>
> Tia, RobH.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Long" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:01 AM
> Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>
>
> What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Dennis Long]

First 5g not being in the iPhone 9 isn’t a big deal.  Its not yet widely 
available.  I will purchase the iPhone9.  It will have a faster chip more ram 
and probably a bigger battery. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?

Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.

Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.

I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

 

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you don’t want to spend the money then why bother to buy this upcoming phone?
Your iPhone 8 is a perfectly fine phone and it will serve you well for another 
2 years, I have one myself and certainly wouldn’t even dream about buying this 
upcoming phone which almost certainly will not have 5G support.
Whether I buy an iPhone 12 in the fall depends greatly on what Apple comes up 
with, but for me it is also unlikely since it will probably have first 
generation support for 5G, and maybe even first generation support for under 
display touch ID, but in my opinion the phones nowadays are such mature 
products and so expensive that I want to get at least 3 years out of one and 
even better 4. I figure if I guy whatever iPhone comes out in the fall of 2021 
I get a model which better supports some of these new technologies, by then my 
iPhone 8 which I only bought in December of 2018 will be 3 years old and it 
will have earned it’s money.
I know some people are on plans which allow them to upgrade each year, but of 
course these types of plans don’t come for free an d in the end Apple and the 
providers get their money out of you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne West
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

Anne


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 10:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And you forgot 98SE, ME (Millenium 
Edition which was between 98SE and XP and Vista which came between 7 and 8. Oh, 
and there was of course also 8.1.

But of course that has little to do with the iPhone which nobody knows what 
Apple will call it, SE 2 or 9 or something entirely different, but somehow I 
actually think iPhone 9 is the least likely.
As far as the phone itself it will probably a winner just as the SE was, it 
will have the same size and screen size as the iPhone 8 but with most likely 
the latest A13 chip, but still with Touch Id and a camera system probably 
better than that of the 8, maybe that of the XR. And it will of course be a 
budget phone at least according to Apple standards.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 12:36 AM
To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Hello

On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 and 10 
iirc in this order.




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> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
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> Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 9 
> had been left behind a couple of years back.
> Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...
>
> Tia, RobH.
>
> - Original Message -
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> What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?
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testing a mail filter please do not reply

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Re: testing a mail filter please do not reply

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Anne West]

Sounds like the iPhone 9 will be the best of all worlds. I hope the pesky IOS 
13 bugs disappear and it works like IOS 12, smooth and reliable with 13 
features. I will scoop up a 9 if that happens, maybe. I like my 8 and not 
enthused about spending more money.

 

Anne

 

 

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Long
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I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Dennis Long]

I have read it will be designed similar to the iPhone 8 have a home button and 
have the chip from the iPhone 11 and 3gb of ram.

 

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I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

 

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Dennis Long]

If it comes out I'm purchasing it.

-Original Message-
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Fogarty
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It's the second itoration of the SE,

 At least that is the talk on rumour sites thus far.


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Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 9 
had been left behind a couple of years back.
Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...

Tia, RobH.

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Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

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No thoughts… Until the next iPhone is released.

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Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Alex Stone]

I bought a pc with ME on it, it was horrible and I put pc on it at the first 
opportunity!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Feb 2020, at 09:56, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Infact they also made windows ME for melinium edition  which was a dog with 
> no legs and was replaced soon after by windows xp not xT as written,
> 
> 2000 was not a general os it was meant to be a enterprise system for 
> businesses etc and worked in conjunction with server 2000 which was the 
> introduction of active directory,
> 
> As for no windows 9, 
> Yeah that was due to old 9x code that still exists in the windows 10 
> origional OS release and is possibly still in the windows 10 10/09  release.
> They were concerned there would be issues.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
> Moisio
> Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 9:36 PM
> To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
> 
> Hello
> 
> On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 and 
> 10 iirc in this order.
> 
> 
> 
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>  'RobH.' via VIPhone kirjoitti
>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
>> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 
>> 9 had been left behind a couple of years back.
>> Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...
>> 
>> Tia, RobH.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dennis Long" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:01 AM
>> Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?
>> 
>> 
>> What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?
>> 
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Infact they also made windows ME for melinium edition  which was a dog with no 
legs and was replaced soon after by windows xp not xT as written,

 2000 was not a general os it was meant to be a enterprise system for 
businesses etc and worked in conjunction with server 2000 which was the 
introduction of active directory,

As for no windows 9, 
Yeah that was due to old 9x code that still exists in the windows 10 origional 
OS release and is possibly still in the windows 10 10/09  release.
They were concerned there would be issues.
-Original Message-
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Moisio
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 9:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Hello

On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 and 10 
iirc in this order.




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  'RobH.' via VIPhone kirjoitti
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 9 
> had been left behind a couple of years back.
> Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...
>
> Tia, RobH.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Long" 
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> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:01 AM
> Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?
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>
> What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?
>
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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

It's the second itoration of the SE,

 At least that is the talk on rumour sites thus far.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2020 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 9 
had been left behind a couple of years back.
Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...

Tia, RobH.

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Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?


What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?

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RE: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’ve not yet read anything re the specs and related info on it’s pending 
release.

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What are people’s thought on the iPhone 9?
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Re: test message

[Christopher Chaltain]

Since this mailing list is hosted on Google Groups, those with a Gmail 
account won't see their own messages in their in box.



On 2/9/20 12:40 AM, Arlene wrote:
That's strange when this happens, I've heard the same from other 
people receiving list messages, but not receiving their own messages. 
At least you're receiving the list messages, so that part is good.


- Original Message -
*From:* Dennis Long 
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*Sent:* Sunday, February 09, 2020 12:36 AM
*Subject:* RE: test message

I don’t see them on the list but I am receiving list messages.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Brian K. Lingard
*Sent:* Sunday, February 9, 2020 1:34 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: test message

Dear Dennis:

Your  test message went out on the list.

Brian k. Lingard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Dennis Long
*Sent:* Saturday, February 8, 2020 11:49 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* test message

I’m not receiving messages.  Is this group just dead?  If I made a
change how do I fix it?

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Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?

[Ari Moisio]

Hello

On  the other hand Microsoft has made Windows 3, 95, 98, 2000, Xt, 7, 8 
and 10 iirc in this order.





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 'RobH.' via VIPhone kirjoitti

Subject: Re: Thoughts on iPhone9?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:50:54
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Now this is a surprise, they've done iPhone x and even 11 now;  so presumed 9 
had been left behind a couple of years back.
Going back to it hardly seemed likely,  so if such a beast exists?...

Tia, RobH.

- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Long" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 6:01 AM
Subject: Thoughts on iPhone9?


What are people's thought on the iPhone 9?




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