RE: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If I start out from the Recent Call list, I don't get first an option to Add 
Contact where then I have to pick add new or add to existing.
After I swipe down to "More Info", I usually touch the bottom left of the 
screen where I find the "Favourites" tab, then I swipe left from there and I 
have the following options (this is going backwards i.e. swiping left):

Block this caller
Share my location
Add to emergency contacts
Add to existing contact
Create new contact
Share contact

Obviously if the number is not in my contacts I will double tap on Create new 
contact and I can then fill in first name, last name, company and any other 
fields I want and save it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

I just did that moments ago

After you double tap on Add to contacts, there are options for create new 
contact, or add to existing contact.
You need to pick one of those before moving on.

Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts. 

I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left to add to Contacts. 
When I doubletapped, I got Contacts, Section Index and Contact list, but no 
place to add. I just had to do from scratch, go back to recents, and it gave 
the caller name, so I would know I had it in correct. 

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RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The most important thing with the SIM is to make sure you don't turn it around 
or flip it over after taking it out of your old phone. The Nano SIM cards are 
so tiny that it's somewhat difficult to feel which side is up and which side 
goes into the phone first. In other words, don't drop it. I find it easiest to 
sit at a table or desk, put down the new phone after you take it out of the box 
and remove the screen protectors and pop out the SIM tray. Then take your old 
phone, pop out the SIM tray and pull it out completely, carefully take the SIM 
card and put it on the tray of the new phone and slide it in.
I would be prepared to call Be my Eyes or Aira with your old phone, as long as 
you are connected to your WiFi you can easily do this even with the SIM 
removed, just in case you need help to figure out how to put in the SIM card. 
Of course if you had a family member there to do it or help that would be best 
if you can't ask or don't want to ask another sighted person to do it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch 
- all help appreciated

Richard,

Maybe you could summarize your experience after you get your SE 2020 up and 
working.

When it comes to SIM removal, extra care is the order of the day whether using 
a push pin, a unfolded paper clip, or a SIM removal tool. They all have pretty 
sharp points and the key is to ensure that point gets in the SIM tray hole with 
utmost care in order to avoid scratching the device.

Alan Lemly
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch 
- all help appreciated

As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct.
A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to 
remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too 
hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the 
sim removal tool is not in the box.
Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver.
The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering 
problems, they will be inherited.
I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer.
The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords 
are supposed to be included along with email account details.
I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it.
Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own.
But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think.
I'll be calling my carrier to double check.




Richard


> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> ?Eleanor,
> 
> 
> 
> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions.
> 
> 
> 
> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
> below for other steps you need to do before this.
> 
> 
> 
> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the 
> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. 
> In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup 
> than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not 
> available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your 
> new SE. To do so:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double 
> tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.
> 
> 2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.
> 
> 3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
> double tap.
> 
> 4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and 
> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few 
> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest 
> backup when it's done.
> 
> 
> 
> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can 
> have too many backups.
> 
> 
> 
> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came 
> with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM 

Re: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

Hi Carolyn,

Once you get to "Add to contact" make sure that afterwards select Create a
new contact, not an existing one.

Pramit

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:00 AM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

> I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts.
>
> I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left
> to add to Contacts. When I doubletapped, I got Contacts,
> Section Index and Contact list, but no place to add. I just
> had to do from scratch, go back to recents, and it gave the
> caller name, so I would know I had it in correct.
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RE: Question about sound settings

['Jan Howells' via VIPhone]

Thank you, Richard, and all for your help.  I really appreciate 
it.


Jan

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Re: Question about sound settings

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Thank you, Chris.

Jan

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RE: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[Carolyn]

I hope I get another one soon. I will remember about either add or creat new. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:42 PM
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After you get a call I want to find more info double tap on that and then keep 
working until you find create new contact. That is if you want to add that 
phone number as a new contact if you want to add a phone number to an existing 
contact you go to more info and find add to existing contact.
Mike

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> On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts. 
> 
> I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left to add to 
> Contacts. When I doubletapped, I got Contacts, Section Index and 
> Contact list, but no place to add. I just had to do from scratch, go 
> back to recents, and it gave the caller name, so I would know I had it 
> in correct.
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RE: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[Carolyn]

I'll keep that in mind when the chance comes again. I thought I went for add 
new contact, but just got the contact list. I can see with add to existing, how 
Contacts would be what you'd need. Thanks. I will find New Contact. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I just did that moments ago

After you double tap on Add to contacts, there are options for create new 
contact, or add to existing contact.
You need to pick one of those before moving on.

Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts. 

I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left to add to Contacts. 
When I doubletapped, I got Contacts, Section Index and Contact list, but no 
place to add. I just had to do from scratch, go back to recents, and it gave 
the caller name, so I would know I had it in correct. 

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Re: Fantastical

[Richard Turner]

Not that they show in the InApp purchases.
$39.99 yearly.




Richard


> On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Do they offer a life time subscription?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fantastical
> 
> I have been using the new Fantastical since the update and have noticed a lot 
> of fixes for the issues brought up here. I did not experience the problems 
> others reported, or did not think they were huge issues for me. I have not 
> had any issues with the new Fantastical. I chose not to subscribe, because it 
> would be another monthly charge. I would be interested to know of other 
> benefits from the premium which Jenn or others find useful.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 4/23/20, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> I have had no problems with Fantastical now that they have updated. I 
>> also subscribed to the premium as it has a couple of sound features that I 
>> love.
>> You can have notification sounds for different things that happen. 
>> Other than that, I have used it with no difficulties. Have a great day!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
 On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  A couple months or more ago it was reported that a major upgrade  
>>> of the Fantastical calendar app caused some difficulty in how events 
>>> were displayed, or something like that. So, I have avoided updating since 
>>> then.
>>> However, has the developer since corrected this so the app basically 
>>> works as before?
>>> Thanks for any input.
>>> Jeff
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Re: Fantastical

[Alex Stone]

I’m not sure, but I don’t think so.

> On 23 Apr 2020, at 23:03, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Do they offer a life time subscription?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fantastical
> 
> I have been using the new Fantastical since the update and have noticed a lot 
> of fixes for the issues brought up here. I did not experience the problems 
> others reported, or did not think they were huge issues for me. I have not 
> had any issues with the new Fantastical. I chose not to subscribe, because it 
> would be another monthly charge. I would be interested to know of other 
> benefits from the premium which Jenn or others find useful.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 4/23/20, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> I have had no problems with Fantastical now that they have updated. I 
>> also subscribed to the premium as it has a couple of sound features that I 
>> love.
>> You can have notification sounds for different things that happen. 
>> Other than that, I have used it with no difficulties. Have a great day!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
 On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  A couple months or more ago it was reported that a major upgrade  
>>> of the Fantastical calendar app caused some difficulty in how events 
>>> were displayed, or something like that. So, I have avoided updating since 
>>> then.
>>> However, has the developer since corrected this so the app basically 
>>> works as before?
>>> Thanks for any input.
>>> Jeff
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RE: Fantastical

[Dennis Long]

Do they offer a life time subscription?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastical

I have been using the new Fantastical since the update and have noticed a lot 
of fixes for the issues brought up here. I did not experience the problems 
others reported, or did not think they were huge issues for me. I have not had 
any issues with the new Fantastical. I chose not to subscribe, because it would 
be another monthly charge. I would be interested to know of other benefits from 
the premium which Jenn or others find useful.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 4/23/20, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> I have had no problems with Fantastical now that they have updated. I 
> also subscribed to the premium as it has a couple of sound features that I 
> love.
> You can have notification sounds for different things that happen. 
> Other than that, I have used it with no difficulties. Have a great day!
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>
>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>>
>>  A couple months or more ago it was reported that a major upgrade  
>> of the Fantastical calendar app caused some difficulty in how events 
>> were displayed, or something like that. So, I have avoided updating since 
>> then.
>> However, has the developer since corrected this so the app basically 
>> works as before?
>> Thanks for any input.
>> Jeff
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Compared: Magic Keyboard versus Smart Keyboard Folio, Apple Insider

[M. Taylor]

Compared: Magic Keyboard versus Smart Keyboard Folio
By: Andrew O'Hara
Apple Insider
Thursday, April 23, 2020

Apple now sells two choices for iPad Pro keyboards. AppleInsider compares
the Smart Keyboard Folio to the new Magic Keyboard to see how they stack up
and which one is worth it for the price.

As it stands, iPad Pro users have two official options when it comes to
Apple-branded keyboard cases. Users could use any of Apple's Bluetooth
keyboards, but the Magic Keyboard and the Smart Keyboard Folio are the only
two available just for iPad.

Each of these supports the same models. There is both a Magic Keyboard as
well as a Smart Keyboard Folio for both the 12.9-inch and 11-inch iPad Pros
from 2018 and 2020.

On the surface, it appears the primary differentiator is the inclusion or
lack of a trackpad. But actual differences go far beyond that with a huge
array of functional, design, and cost differences. 

Smart Keyboard Folio
Apple's Smart Keyboard has been around for several years now. Debuting with
the original 2015 iPad Pro before being redesigned as the Smart Keyboard
Folio in 2018 with the redesigned iPad Pros. The redesign wasn't
well-received and for the past year and a half users have been exploring
other options.

But the Smart Keyboard Folio isn't without its merits. Between the two, the
Smart Keyboard Folio is far lighter than the Magic Keyboard, lending itself
better to travel when you want to keep your weight down as much as possible.

The Smart Keyboard Folio also has the benefit of being almost entirely
water-resistant. Apple makes these keyboards from a woven fabric that is
stiffened around the keycaps. Because of this, no liquid is capable of
getting into the keyboard itself, and the same goes for dust or other small
debris.

There are two viewing angles on the Smart Keyboard Folio, a more vertical
one for watch media and a more inclined angle for productivity. It connects
via the Smart Connector and has minimal draw on your iPad's battery life.

Magic Keyboard
Apple's Magic Keyboard has much more going for it. It too uses the Smart
Connector but has a full scissor-switch mechanism-based keyboard and a glass
trackpad. This does eat up a bit more battery life, but not by all that
much.

Using a scissor-switch mechanism for the keyboard is a big change. It isn't
water-resistant like the Smart Keyboard Folio, but it is far more responsive
for typing. The fabric keys have a "click" to them but it is very soft and
can even become "stuck" even when they aren't being pressed. 

Magic Keyboard is also backlit. It adjusts automatically based on the
ambient lighting in the room but can be manually adjusted from settings.

Overall, the Magic Keyboard is far nicer and more reliable.

Magic Keyboard arrow keys versus Smart Keyboard Folio
One small, but critical detail, is the arrow keys. On the Smart Keyboard
Folio, Apple has a compact design to the arrow keys but are a bit harder to
identify. Apple reverted back to the inverted "T" design with the 16-inch
MacBook Pro and they changed it on the Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro as well.

By choosing the Magic Keyboard, you are also adding a second USB-C port to
your iPad Pro as well. This is great for charging the iPad and leaving the
port on the side of the tablet free for other accessories.

While the Magic Keyboard is heftier, it is due to metal plates within the
keyboard itself. This makes it much more rigid and easier to move about. If
you pick up the Smart Keyboard Folio by just they keyboard, it bends and
warps while the Magic Keyboard stays firm.

Trackpad support on the iPad Pro through the Magic Keyboard
Trackpads are newly supported within iPadOS as part of the 13.4 update. It
makes a huge difference if dealing with editing text, spreadsheets, and even
video work. You can always use an external Bluetooth mouse, but having it
integrated right into the trackpad it is much more convenient.

Key features of the Smart Keyboard Folion versus the Magic Keyboard
Magic Keyboard, Smart Keyboard Folio.
Connectivity
Smart Connector, Smart Connector.
Key Type:
Scissor switch mechanism, Woven fabric.
Function Keys:
None, None.
Backlit:
Yes, No.
Arrow Keys:
Inverted "T" design, Block design.
TrackPad:
Yes, N/A.

Should you buy the Smart Keyboard Folio or Magic Keyboard?
The decision between the two is mainly down to if you need the trackpad or
if you want to spend the lofty price Apple asks for the Magic Keyboard. If
you don't want to spend the money, the Smart Keyboard Folio is a great,
durable keyboard that uses the Smart Connector and offers up some
protection.

But if you want the best of the best, you will have to shell out for the
Magic Keyboard. The keys are better, more durable, backlit, and the entire
body is more stable. You are also buying an additional USB-C port to the
iPad Pro and a fully articulated hinge -not to mention the trackpad. But you
will pay for the privilege.


Where to buy
The Magic Keyboard for Apple's new iPad Pro is available 

Re: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[Michael Irons]

After you get a call I want to find more info double tap on that and then keep 
working until you find create new contact. That is if you want to add that 
phone number as a new contact if you want to add a phone number to an existing 
contact you go to more info and find add to existing contact.
Mike

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> On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts. 
> 
> I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left
> to add to Contacts. When I doubletapped, I got Contacts,
> Section Index and Contact list, but no place to add. I just
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> caller name, so I would know I had it in correct. 
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RE: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[Richard Turner]

I just did that moments ago

After you double tap on Add to contacts, there are options for create new 
contact, or add to existing contact.
You need to pick one of those before moving on.

Richard
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts. 

I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left to add to Contacts. 
When I doubletapped, I got Contacts, Section Index and Contact list, but no 
place to add. I just had to do from scratch, go back to recents, and it gave 
the caller name, so I would know I had it in correct. 

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Getting a Recent caller into Contacts.

[Carolyn]

I had two calls today that I tried to put in Contacts. 

I flicked down and got More Information, then flicked left
to add to Contacts. When I doubletapped, I got Contacts,
Section Index and Contact list, but no place to add. I just
had to do from scratch, go back to recents, and it gave the
caller name, so I would know I had it in correct. 

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Re: Fantastical

[Wayne Merritt]

I have been using the new Fantastical since the update and have
noticed a lot of fixes for the issues brought up here. I did not
experience the problems others reported, or did not think they were
huge issues for me. I have not had any issues with the new
Fantastical. I chose not to subscribe, because it would be another
monthly charge. I would be interested to know of other benefits from
the premium which Jenn or others find useful.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 4/23/20, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> I have had no problems with Fantastical now that they have updated. I also
> subscribed to the premium as it has a couple of sound features that I love.
> You can have notification sounds for different things that happen. Other
> than that, I have used it with no difficulties. Have a great day!
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>
>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>>
>>  A couple months or more ago it was reported that a major upgrade  of the
>> Fantastical calendar app caused some difficulty in how events were
>> displayed, or something like that. So, I have avoided updating since then.
>> However, has the developer since corrected this so the app basically works
>> as before?
>> Thanks for any input.
>> Jeff
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RE: Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Richard Turner]

WiFi assist does not impact your use of cellular at all.
What it does is it switches to cellular if your WiFi signal is weak.
So, if you have unlimited cellular data, it may not impact you; but if you are 
like a lot of us and have limited data, you want to turn that setting off so 
you don't burn up your cell data thinking you are on WiFi.




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How does this setting affect your ability to use cellular when you are out with 
no wifi connection? Would it prevent you from having the ability to connect?

Vicki

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> Eric thanks for the tip and Alan thanks for mentioning where to find it. 
> Relieved to find mine is off and to Finally know what it refers to!
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Re: Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Vicki W.]

How does this setting affect your ability to use cellular when you are out 
with no wifi connection? Would it prevent you from having the ability to 
connect?


Vicki

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To: "iPhone List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful


Eric thanks for the tip and Alan thanks for mentioning where to find it. 
Relieved to find mine is off and to Finally know what it refers to!

Joy


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Re: Fantastical

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Jeff, 
I have had no problems with Fantastical now that they have updated. I also 
subscribed to the premium as it has a couple of sound features that I love. You 
can have notification sounds for different things that happen. Other than that, 
I have used it with no difficulties. Have a great day!

Jenn 
Jenn and Kumi
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> 
>  A couple months or more ago it was reported that a major upgrade  of the 
> Fantastical calendar app caused some difficulty in how events were displayed, 
> or something like that. So, I have avoided updating since then. However, has 
> the developer since corrected this so the app basically works as before?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jeff
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Re: Question about sound settings

[Chris Chaffin]

Go to settings / notifications / mail.  In there you will find each of your 
email accounts.  When you double tap on each one, you will find a sound setting 
for each one.

Hope this helps.

Chris


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> 
> I am trying to set a sound for all of my email accounts for incoming mail.  I 
> am opening settings, going to sounds, selecting a sound, tapping new mail, 
> and going back to sounds.  I cannot find a save button.  Is there something 
> that Wrong? Or is there a step that I am forgetting? Thank you.
> 
> Jan
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RE: New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Well, Mike, I’d call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share.
I just unlocked my orientation again, opened messages, started a new message, 
turned the phone to landscape and the keyboard stretch across the screen 
completely.

Something isn’t right.  Again, this is with iOS 13.4.1.

Later,



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

I just tried typing a text message and the orientation doesn't change, which is 
okay.  We'll see how the new SE's respond when y'all get them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:58 AM
Subject: RE: New SE iPhone Keyboard

I was in Email when I tested it and I’m running iOS 13.4.1, so that may be the 
difference.
Of course, there seems to always be some app outliers that don’t widen when 
landscaped.
Not sure why that is.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

>From what I understand the old SE didn't widen in all apps, only in certain 
>ones.  But, all ican say is either our phones are weird, or there's something 
>wrong with them because at last check they didn't widen and orientation was 
>unlocked.  I haven't checked since probably around iOS 10, so hopefully or 
>maybe updates have changed this.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

Mike,
I just unlocked orientation on my old SE, and the keyboard widen in landscape 
just like all iPhones.
I usually keep the orientation locked, but after testing, I think you had 
misinformation.
I should be able to confirm on the new SE after it arrives tomorrow.
Later,
ichard


On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mike B. 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the phone 
in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will widen 
the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other iPhone 
models?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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RE: Question about sound settings

[Richard Turner]

Jan,
Open settings,
Notifications,
Then, get down to mail and double tap.
In here, you will find all of your mail accounts and you can set a different 
sound for each one.
And, no, there is no save button.
When you hear the sound played when you select it, just go back a level and the 
sound is saved.

HTH,

Richard
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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:57 AM
To: Idevices Products 
Cc: Apple Products 
Subject: Question about sound settings

Hello,

I am trying to set a sound for all of my email accounts for incoming mail.  I 
am opening settings, going to sounds, selecting a sound, tapping new mail, and 
going back to sounds.  I cannot find a save button.  Is there something that 
Wrong? Or is there a step that I am forgetting? Thank you.

Jan

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Re: Question about sound settings

[Stacy Fuehrer]

To my knowledge, once  you  tap the sound, you choose,  simply close settings.
It automatically saves what you have selected. Someone can correct me if I am 
wrong.
Hope this helps

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
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Re: approval request sent

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Ann,

Go into the first item in SEttings, which has your name on it, and then go into 
iCloud. You can see there which services are on, if any. If that doesn't help, 
i would suggest contacting Apple Accessibility.

Best,
Anna




> On Apr 22, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> I frequently get the following message on my phone:
> 
> Approval request sent.  To continue using iCloud on this iPhone, approve it 
> from one of your other devices using iCloud or enter your security code.
> 
> When I activate my "other device", an iPod, there is no request to approve.  
> I do not have a security code for iCloud; I just sign in with my Apple ID.  
> What can I do to remedy this problem?
> When I activate files, I see 'iCloud heading".  I believed I had notes and 
> contacts saved to iCloud, but I don't find them there on my phone.  So I'm 
> guessing iCloud isn't active.  Or somebody ate my notes.
> 
> thanks,
> 
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Re: Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Joy Cyr]

Eric thanks for the tip and Alan thanks for mentioning where to find it.  
Relieved to find mine is off and to Finally know what it refers to!
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Fantastical

[Jeff Samco]

A couple months or more ago it was reported that a major upgrade  of 
the Fantastical calendar app caused some difficulty in how events 
were displayed, or something like that. So, I have avoided updating 
since then. However, has the developer since corrected this so the 
app basically works as before?

Thanks for any input.
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RE: Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Anne West]

Thanks, Eric. I haven't left my house and wifi since March 23 and wondered why 
I was using data. Now I know. I have unlimited data so not a problem. very 
interesting.

All, stay save and healthy.

Anne

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Caron
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Hi fellow listers,

I thought I’d share this.  While ordering an iPhone for a family member 
the Xfinity person mentioned to me that I might want to turn off Wifi Assist.  
Here is what I learned.

In the setting under cellular is a wifi assist option. 
When on the phone will select the strongest signal wifi or cell.

This means if you have a data plan your phone will use data even when wifi is 
available if the cell signal is stronger. 

In my case my phone would change to Cell and stay there for extended times.  I 
didn’t know wy and it was frustrating.  Once I changed the setting my phone 
stayed on wifi consistently. 

If you have unlimited data all good and use the option but, I’m on a shared 
data plan and I was the data hog without meaning to be. 

I hope this tip is helpful to others.

Eric Caron 

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RE: Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Alan Lemly]

Eric,

Thanks for that tip. I noticed that setting when I was playing around under 
Cellular today and saw it was turned off. Based on your explanation, I plan to 
keep it there.

Alan Lemly

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Hi fellow listers,

I thought I�d share this.  While ordering an iPhone for a family member 
the Xfinity person mentioned to me that I might want to turn off Wifi Assist.  
Here is what I learned.

In the setting under cellular is a wifi assist option. 
When on the phone will select the strongest signal wifi or cell.

This means if you have a data plan your phone will use data even when wifi is 
available if the cell signal is stronger. 

In my case my phone would change to Cell and stay there for extended times.  I 
didn�t know wy and it was frustrating.  Once I changed the setting my phone 
stayed on wifi consistently. 

If you have unlimited data all good and use the option but, I�m on a shared 
data plan and I was the data hog without meaning to be. 

I hope this tip is helpful to others.

Eric Caron 

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RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

Maybe you could summarize your experience after you get your SE 2020 up and 
working.

When it comes to SIM removal, extra care is the order of the day whether using 
a push pin, a unfolded paper clip, or a SIM removal tool. They all have pretty 
sharp points and the key is to ensure that point gets in the SIM tray hole with 
utmost care in order to avoid scratching the device.

Alan Lemly
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- all help appreciated

As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct.
A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to 
remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too 
hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the 
sim removal tool is not in the box.
Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver.
The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering 
problems, they will be inherited.
I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer.
The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords 
are supposed to be included along with email account details.
I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it.
Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own.
But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think.
I'll be calling my carrier to double check.




Richard


> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> ?Eleanor,
> 
> 
> 
> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions.
> 
> 
> 
> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
> below for other steps you need to do before this.
> 
> 
> 
> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the 
> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. 
> In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup 
> than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not 
> available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your 
> new SE. To do so:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double 
> tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.
> 
> 2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.
> 
> 3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
> double tap.
> 
> 4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and 
> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few 
> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest 
> backup when it's done.
> 
> 
> 
> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can 
> have too many backups.
> 
> 
> 
> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came 
> with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your 
> iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM  release hole will 
> be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will 
> need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have 
> something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its 
> tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin 
> board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed 
> pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal 
> over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be 
> removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice 
> I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that 
> they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to 
> provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able to 
> offer much more detailed advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember 
> exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it 
> offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a 
> 

Question about sound settings

['Jan Howells' via VIPhone]

Hello,

I am trying to set a sound for all of my email accounts for 
incoming mail.  I am opening settings, going to sounds, selecting 
a sound, tapping new mail, and going back to sounds.  I cannot 
find a save button.  Is there something that Wrong? Or is there a 
step that I am forgetting? Thank you.


Jan

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Question about sound settings

['Jan Howells' via VIPhone]

Hello,

I am trying to set a sound for all of my email accounts for 
incoming mail.  I am opening settings, going to sounds, selecting 
a sound, tapping new mail, and going back to sounds.  I cannot 
find a save button.  Is there something that Wrong? Or is there a 
step that I am forgetting? Thank you.


Jan

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Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

[Eric Caron]

Hi fellow listers,

I thought I’d share this.  While ordering an iPhone for a family member 
the Xfinity person mentioned to me that I might want to turn off Wifi Assist.  
Here is what I learned.

In the setting under cellular is a wifi assist option. 
When on the phone will select the strongest signal wifi or cell.

This means if you have a data plan your phone will use data even when wifi is 
available if the cell signal is stronger. 

In my case my phone would change to Cell and stay there for extended times.  I 
didn’t know wy and it was frustrating.  Once I changed the setting my phone 
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If you have unlimited data all good and use the option but, I’m on a shared 
data plan and I was the data hog without meaning to be. 

I hope this tip is helpful to others.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Arlene]

Alan, those instructions sound helpful and good. While I haven't set up  any 
of our se phones when new, and put sim cards in the phones, Wayne's done 
that . He does really well with putting the sim card in the phone and I'm 
glad he can do that well, since just the thought of it makes me nervous. 
From listening to him setting up the phones and when he told me how he 
handles putting the sim card in, your instructions  are very clear, and 
Wayne said you explained very well how to do it. and the Turtles are one of 
my most favorite groups, and I think Eleanor is swell too. I don't know if 
I'll ever switch or put in a new sim card, as I said just the thought of it 
makes me nervous, but the most important thing to do, while you're doing the 
inserting of the sim card, just make sure to do it over something, just in 
case it falls, this way if you're doing it over a box or table you'll be 
able to find it.  I think I'll have Wayne show me how to do it, it would 
probably be a good thing to get use to doing for when I might need too.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated



Eleanor,



I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your 
questions.




My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
below for other steps you need to do before this.




I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the 
air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my 
opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes 
backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your 
Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before 
setting up your new SE. To do so:




1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, 
double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.


2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.

3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
double tap.


4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and 
double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few 
minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest 
backup when it's done.




I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you 
can have too many backups.




I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones 
came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your 
iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM  release hole will 
be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will 
need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have 
something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its 
tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin 
board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed 
pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal 
over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be 
removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical 
advice I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding 
is that they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be 
notched to provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will 
be able to offer much more detailed advice.




Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember 
exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it 
offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a 
backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure when the best 
time is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to your new SE. My 
cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone is set up so you'll 
have a device that works until you're ready to make the new one a workable 
cell phone. I would think all your apps and settings should download from 
the cloud just fine and the new SE would work like a WiFi only device until 
you transfer the SIM to it but others more experienced than I will have to 
comment on this.




I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies 

Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Mike B.]

I just tried typing a text message and the orientation doesn't change, which 
is okay.  We'll see how the new SE's respond when y'all get them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:58 AM
Subject: RE: New SE iPhone Keyboard


I was in Email when I tested it and I’m running iOS 13.4.1, so that may be 
the difference.

Of course, there seems to always be some app outliers that don’t widen when 
landscaped.

Not sure why that is.







Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard



>From what I understand the old SE didn't widen in all apps, only in certain 
ones.  But, all ican say is either our phones are weird, or there's 
something wrong with them because at last check they didn't widen and 
orientation was unlocked.  I haven't checked since probably around iOS 10, 
so hopefully or maybe updates have changed this.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

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From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:04 AM

Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard



Mike,

I just unlocked orientation on my old SE, and the keyboard widen in 
landscape just like all iPhones.

I usually keep the orientation locked, but after testing, I think you had 
misinformation.

I should be able to confirm on the new SE after it arrives tomorrow.

Later,

ichard







  On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mike B.  wrote:

  

  Hi All,



  On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the 
phone in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will 
widen the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other 
iPhone models?  Thanks much.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Richard Turner]

As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct.
A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to 
remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too 
hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the 
sim removal tool is not in the box.
Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver.
The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering 
problems, they will be inherited.
I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer.
The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords 
are supposed to be included along with email account details.
I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it.
Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own.
But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think.
I'll be calling my carrier to double check.




Richard


> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Eleanor,
> 
> 
> 
> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions.
> 
> 
> 
> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
> below for other steps you need to do before this.
> 
> 
> 
> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the 
> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. 
> In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup 
> than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not 
> available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your 
> new SE. To do so:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double 
> tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.
> 
> 2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.
> 
> 3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
> double tap.
> 
> 4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and 
> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few 
> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest 
> backup when it's done.
> 
> 
> 
> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can 
> have too many backups.
> 
> 
> 
> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came 
> with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your 
> iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM  release hole will 
> be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will 
> need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have 
> something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its 
> tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin 
> board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed 
> pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal 
> over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be 
> removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice 
> I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that 
> they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to 
> provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able to 
> offer much more detailed advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember 
> exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it 
> offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a 
> backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure when the best time 
> is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to your new SE. My 
> cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone is set up so you'll 
> have a device that works until you're ready to make the new one a workable 
> cell phone. I would think all your apps and settings should download from the 
> cloud just fine and the new SE would work like a WiFi only device until you 
> transfer the SIM to it but others more experienced than I will have to 
> comment on this.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies to you, the 
> list, and the Turtles but I just have to 

Re: height of scan stand for iPhone

[Richard Turner]

11 to 12 inches works best for whole page scans.
The rule of thumb is to have the camera as far from an object as that object is 
tall.




Richard


> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello list
> I want to make my own stand but the only measurement I am not sure of is the
> proper height above the page. What is the height to get the most accurate
> result with an app like Seeing AI or VoiceDreamScanner?
> Regards
> Fanus
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RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Alan Lemly]

Eleanor,

 

I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions.

 

My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able 
to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for 
other steps you need to do before this.

 

I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything 
else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a 
local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. In the past, 
more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup than to iCloud 
but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not available, you 
should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your new SE. To do so:

 

1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double 
tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.

2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.

3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and double 
tap.

4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and double 
tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few minutes to 
complete and you will be given the current time of the latest backup when it's 
done.

 

I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can 
have too many backups.

 

I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came 
with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your 
iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM  release hole will be 
in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will need a 
SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have something 
to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its tray. I 
personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin board works 
the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed pressure. If 
you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal over a tray with 
raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be removed should it 
decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice I can give since 
I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that they only go in one 
way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to provide for this one 
way only insertion but I expect others will be able to offer much more detailed 
advice.

 

Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember exactly 
what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it offers you 
the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a backup. I 
always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure when the best time is for you 
to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to your new SE. My cautionary side 
tells me to do this after the new phone is set up so you'll have a device that 
works until you're ready to make the new one a workable cell phone. I would 
think all your apps and settings should download from the cloud just fine and 
the new SE would work like a WiFi only device until you transfer the SIM to it 
but others more experienced than I will have to comment on this.

 

I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies to you, the 
list, and the Turtles but I just have to close by saying Eleanor, gee I think 
you're swell. I'm a fan of 60's music.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - 
all help appreciated

 

Hi all 

 

After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I�ve 
ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. So 
have some questions re setting it up which I�m hoping people might be able to 
assist with. 

 

Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me some 
idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including on how to 
get Voiceover started from the word go I�d be really grateful please?. I�m far 
more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because I know all the shops 
are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be able to assist me can�t 
do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much 
appreciated. 

 

Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better to 
set it up through my 

height of scan stand for iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I want to make my own stand but the only measurement I am not sure of is the
proper height above the page. What is the height to get the most accurate
result with an app like Seeing AI or VoiceDreamScanner?
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Do we know what earphones SE takes?

[Keith Bierman]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:08 PM R Van Lant  wrote:

> Since I keep my phones for multiple years, I tend to run through multiple
> sets of headphones.  Is it pretty easy to find inexpensive replacement
> headphones with the lightning connection?
>

It has been. At some point, Apple will probably eliminate the lightening
connector and some years after that such 'phones will likely become less
easy to locate.

...  I’m also hoping.   I also like Bluetooth, but I seem to misplace
them.  In fact, I’m on the hunt for a Bluetooth earpiece I took off during
a phone call last week and I still cannot find where I set it! Ergh!  
...

I think you are really speaking of earbuds, that is small in-ear
transducers (fancy word for device which turns electricity into sound, or
vice versa), Bluetooth external "cans" (headphones with large cushions
outside the ear) are also pretty common (less common, these days, are
external units which convert traditional 3.5 mm (or 1/2") to bluetooth). If
you often find losing earbuds is an issue, you might consider something
like TrelabZ2


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Trouble with whatsapp

[turab chimthanawala]

Hi all,
I operate on a XR and am facing the following issues on whatsapp.
1. While selecting the chats for forwarding messages, Voice over
doesn't read the names of groups properly, for instance, for a group
name 'LISTED 2020', it only reads 2020.
2. While browsing the chats, it doesn't read the name of business
acounts: it only reads after opening that chat.
Eagerly await solutions.
Thanking you
Best
Turab

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Re: Do we know what earphones SE takes?

[Fred Olver]

Kay, I just purchased an inexpensive pair of bluetooth earbuds/phones, $20. Go 
to http://www.gophercentral.com

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kay Malmquist 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Do we know what earphones SE takes?


  Thanks Richard,
  Okay then, I'll just have to get a dongle.  No biggie there.  Thanks.

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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: Do we know what earphones SE takes?


it has the lightning headphone jack just like the phones since the 7. 
So, no 3.5 MM jack.
Hence the discussion about getting the dongle to use headphones that have 
the 3.5 mm plug.
Though I am sure the new phone comes with the lightning plug headphones.







Richard




  On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:29 AM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


   
  So, I completely ignored this thread, but now I just got curious.  Does 
the new SE have a headphone jack?  No?  

  Kay Malmquist
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From: Simon A Fogarty 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:16 AM
Subject: RE: Do we know what earphones SE takes?


And anything Bluetooth!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It’s the lightning port earr phones.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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  On Apr 21, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kathy Brandt  
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  In other words, is it a regular headphone jack, or the lightning 
port earphones?

  Congrats to others on their purchase. I am upgrading from the iPhone 
5s.

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RE: New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Richard Turner]

I was in Email when I tested it and I’m running iOS 13.4.1, so that may be the 
difference.
Of course, there seems to always be some app outliers that don’t widen when 
landscaped.
Not sure why that is.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

>From what I understand the old SE didn't widen in all apps, only in certain 
>ones.  But, all ican say is either our phones are weird, or there's something 
>wrong with them because at last check they didn't widen and orientation was 
>unlocked.  I haven't checked since probably around iOS 10, so hopefully or 
>maybe updates have changed this.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

Mike,
I just unlocked orientation on my old SE, and the keyboard widen in landscape 
just like all iPhones.
I usually keep the orientation locked, but after testing, I think you had 
misinformation.
I should be able to confirm on the new SE after it arrives tomorrow.
Later,
ichard



On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mike B. 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the phone 
in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will widen 
the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other iPhone 
models?  Thanks much.

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Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Mike B.]

>From what I understand the old SE didn't widen in all apps, only in certain 
ones.  But, all ican say is either our phones are weird, or there's 
something wrong with them because at last check they didn't widen and 
orientation was unlocked.  I haven't checked since probably around iOS 10, 
so hopefully or maybe updates have changed this.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard


Mike,
I just unlocked orientation on my old SE, and the keyboard widen in 
landscape just like all iPhones.
I usually keep the orientation locked, but after testing, I think you had 
misinformation.
I should be able to confirm on the new SE after it arrives tomorrow.
Later,
ichard





  On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi All,

  On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the 
phone in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will 
widen the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other 
iPhone models?  Thanks much.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I’ve 
ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. So 
have some questions re setting it up which I’m hoping people might be able to 
assist with. 

Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me some 
idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including on how to 
get Voiceover started from the word go I’d be really grateful please?. I’m far 
more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because I know all the shops 
are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be able to assist me can’t 
do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much 
appreciated. 

Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better to 
set it up through my Mac? I ask this because my Mac is currently away being 
fixed/serviced. So I just wondered whether it would make any difference which 
way I did it?, and if so whether I should wait for my Mac to return before 
attempting set-up? 

Finally, can anyone send me some step-by-step idiots instructions on how to 
swap my SIM card over from my currrent IPhone 8 to the new SE?? I’ve never done 
this before, and again, in normal times I’d happily get sighted help with this, 
but obviously I can’t do that right now. So any help appreciated. 

My apologies for all the questions, but I really don’t want to make a mess of 
this/muck it up completely/ruin the new phone/etc. So many thanks in advance 
for any help/advice that anyone can give me. 

Eleanor 

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Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Mike,
I just unlocked orientation on my old SE, and the keyboard widen in landscape 
just like all iPhones.
I usually keep the orientation locked, but after testing, I think you had 
misinformation.
I should be able to confirm on the new SE after it arrives tomorrow.
Later,
ichard


On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


Hi All,

On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the phone 
in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will widen 
the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other iPhone 
models?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the 
phone in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will 
widen the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other 
iPhone models?  Thanks much.

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Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Robert Doc Wright]

In some cases both.
**
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:15 AM
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning


What the phone or the wife?!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright

Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 3:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

I ordered one for my wife. I did not order a case yet. It is rare that it 
will ever leave the bedroom.

**
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning


I did get a great deal and no problem with the size of it. The new phones 
have the screen going all the way to the edges of the screen, so, as someone 
said earlier don't require as much "real estate." My guess is, with it in 
its case that it is about6 1/2 x 3 1/2. It is the same thickness as my SE; 
it is heavier, but I'm use to it now.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin

Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Okay, b but Are you,Caroline "Happy" with TheSize  of Your 11?
Looks like you got a  GreatDeal on Your11

At 03:11 PM 4/20/2020, you wrote:

I bought an 11 on January 3. I had thought to go to an XR, but they had
no XR in stock at our Wal-Mart. So, I got 11 for $648; of course, that
is on a two and a half year contract, but my phone bill is reasonable.
It is with AT I am happy with my phone and with my service.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Alrady Known, What I'm sayin' (Tryin to Say) is I  Don'tThink the
1stGeneration SE will Receive SupportFor iOS14

OfCourse, if  the 1stGeneration SE
Received  iOS13, it should Recieve All   of TheUpdates associated with
iOS13

JustCurious,Caroline
Which iPhone did you UpGradeTo?
At 10:26 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
>Well, the SE would be going through all of the
>13 updates. I had the latest, when I bought my new phone. It had just
>gotten to where I was having to charge my battery twice a day. Had I
>known then to go into Screen App Refresh, or whatever that is called
>and take down a lot of apps running, I might have kept it longer.
>
>Those were the days when I was out and about way more, and needed a
>battery good for a whole day.
>
>So now, the SE is four years old.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin
>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:48 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
>
>That Remains ToBe seen, & I'm specifically Referrin'To Apple's
>iOSUpdates on Older MobilePhones (Like the 1stGeneration iPhoneSE).
>If Apple doesn't  Allow For iOS14 on  its 1stGeneration iPhoneSE,
>then it would have been only SupportedFor 3Years since  the
>1stGeneration SE was Released in TheSpring of
>2016 & Recieve its Last iOS update in  September2019: Apple's iOS13
>
>Time will Tell TheStory
>
>As you have  Described, Apple's Sales of its MobilePhones, the iPhone
>have Declined Over-the-Years & this could Be a  Result of Apple
>supportin' its iOSDevices LongerThan its Competitors (Mainly Samsung)
>
>Let's Remember the 1stGeneration SE  was Retired & has TheSpecs of
>Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ with Exception to  TheFingerPrintReader,
>which is TheSame as on Apple's iPhone5S along with the BodyFrame of
>the 5S
>
>
>At 07:42 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
> >iPhone cells have been struggling for a couple of years now.
> >Entering a low cost phone into the mix will help them sell tuns of
> >these things.
> >Especially when their budget offering is better than anything on
> >the market and offers longer software support than any Android
> >phone out there. You could buy an iPhone SE2020 and still have it
> >in five years.
> >On 4/20/2020 9:34 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
> >>The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly
> >>what you are stating ..  If the rumors are true it will be
> >>slightly smaller than the 4.7 in. SE...
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> On Behalf Of Carolyn
> >>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling.
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 

RE: Do we know what earphones SE takes?

[Simon A Fogarty]

No iPhone since the 7 has had an actual headphone jack / 3.5mm jack,

Everything now is either lightening or Bluetooth.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2020 12:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Do we know what earphones SE takes?

So, I completely ignored this thread, but now I just got curious.  Does the new 
SE have a headphone jack?  No?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
- Original Message -
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:16 AM
Subject: RE: Do we know what earphones SE takes?

And anything Bluetooth!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Do we know what earphones SE takes?

It’s the lightning port earr phones.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On Apr 21, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kathy Brandt 
mailto:katya20...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In other words, is it a regular headphone jack, or the lightning port 
earphones?

Congrats to others on their purchase. I am upgrading from the iPhone 5s.

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