Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Since this isn't for me, all I can say is what my client said.
He prefers the ergonomic keyboard for two reasons, he has very large hands, and 
has some issues with carpal tunnel.
He will settle for the k380, but he has to type far slower, and take frequent 
breaks.




Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Richard,

Yeah sorry not sure about the urg keyboard with Bluetooth,

However   what would be wrong other than not ergonomic with the K380 or similar 
bt keyboard which would also be light to carry

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Thanks for the replies.
Since they want to use it with both an iPhone and an iPad 7, wired is not ideal.
There may be a Surface keyboard that is bluetooth that could work, at three 
times the price of other non-ergonomic keyboards, but he'll probably just deal 
with a standard keyboard.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 1:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


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Re: passcode question

[Richard Turner]

Safari does not need a passcode, though if your phone has a passcode, you 
cannot launch any app other than camera without unlocking your phone.
Vicki,
Your friend needs to call Apple to get a clear answer.




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On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

I have never had a passcode and use Safari just fine.


- Original Message - From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: passcode question


But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode?

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.






Richard
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On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:




Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

Vicki




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Incoming e-mail Not Syncing Between iDevices

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I'm trying to send an e-mail with a YouTube link to my Mom. It shows
up on her iPhone running the latest OS, but not on her iPad running
iOS9. Both devices use the Mail app to check mail. What could be
causing the discrepancy?

Thanks,
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Re: passcode question

[Vicki W.]

I have never had a passcode and use Safari just fine.


- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: passcode question


But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will 
primarily ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it 
and come back later, the finger print will unlock it.

If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it 
with the face ID.







Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:




Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?


Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode 
needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to 
type it in so often>


Vicki




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RE: passcode question

[Carolyn]

But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours. 
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.






Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:



 
Hi,
 
If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?
 
Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the 
passcode needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having 
to type it in so often>
 
Vicki
 



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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Carolyn]

I have no complaint about AT, only I just think Consumer Cellular has A1 
Customer Service, and they offer plans at good values. 

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Juan Mojena
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Carolyn, I don't know why you need a store? All you really need is someone 
to talk to. Right now I'm paying $150 a month for three phones which includes a 
 19% discount from AT
 They offered a monthly payment for an iPhone 11 Pro Max with 256 GB  the 
representative said that if I do it online I can get the same phone for $18 for 
30 months. That really sounds like a very good deal  but, I don't want a phone 
right now and I really want to get off AT
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, Juan. I definitely liked that about Consumer Cellular. I told them if 
> they ever got a store in our town, I'd be back. Of course, right now, I'm 
> buried in an AT contract, but, hay, $648 is a good price for an iPhone 11 
> that I bought on January 3 of this year. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Thank you very much to all of you for responding to my questions.They were 
> all useful and informati they were all useful and informative. I was told by 
> one of the reps that consumer cellular has all of their call centers in the 
> US this is important to me. I know that Verizon and AT have some of their 
> call centers outside of the US in addition to the ones in the country.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, juan mojena  wrote:
> 
> Well if you saw  my earlier messages I said that the one plus 6T was $600 
> with tax. That’s the The amount that I could afford at the time for a lump 
> sum payment and the 60 had very good reviews so that’s the phone that I 
> chose. I’m not sure what kind of service you would get if you had a problem 
> with a Google or Samsung phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> The Pixel 4's are in the $850 range, but if you're willing to take last 
> year's model, and the 3's are no slouches for phones, they'r3 $600-$700 
> depending on a few options.
> 
> 
>> On 6/18/2020 12:07 PM, juan mojena wrote:
>> I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
>> phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
>> went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and 
>> they were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 
>> but this phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about 
>> $2000?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> For that price,
>> 
>> You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
>> mojena
>> Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
>> 
>> my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model 
>> of a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very 
>> good company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, 
>> their tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is 
>> much worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more 
>> than $600 with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy 
>> another phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because 
>> I’m using Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to 
>> repeat the phrase is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you 
>> dictate. So I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> What is a 1 6 T?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of juan mojena
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
>> 
>> Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an 
>> iPhone 8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I 
>> would have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive 
>> the consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to 
>> use a calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow 
>> you to use such numbers.
>> Juan
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

RE: passcode question

[Carolyn]

You can't get into Sarafi without a passcode. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:24 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: passcode question

Hi,
 
If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?
 
Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>
 
Vicki
 

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RE: passcode question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes it can,

Have the owner of the phone look under settings and then display and brightness.
They should find the instructions there to

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

Let me start over. My mistake.

The phone is set to never lock. Passcode is set to use after 4 hours. So, if 
the phone is locked manually, and it stays locked more than four hours, the 
passcode is needed. Can it be changed to not need it if the phone is locked 
without turning it off?

It's not my phone so I'm probably not explaining it very well.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

Vicki

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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah but you don't need the latest and greatest Samsung phone.

 The Samsung galaxy A range is a lower cost set of devices and they are still 
bloody good devices.

I purchased an A20 last year to get android knowledge and it was great except 
of course for the bloat ware. But it still had an HD screen with usb-C charging 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

For that price,

You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using 
Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase 
is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for 
that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



  I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see 
if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?
  Thank you very much in advance.
  Juan


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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah a hell of a lot of android devices from all different companys.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Choosing a phone company

There really are a lot of Android phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using 
Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase 
is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for 
that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



   I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to 
see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than 
AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do 
they think about the service?
   Thank you very much in advance.
   Juan
   
   
   Sent from my iPhone
   
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RE: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

Yeah sorry not sure about the urg keyboard with Bluetooth,

However   what would be wrong other than not ergonomic with the K380 or similar 
bt keyboard which would also be light to carry

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Thanks for the replies.
Since they want to use it with both an iPhone and an iPad 7, wired is not ideal.
There may be a Surface keyboard that is bluetooth that could work, at three 
times the price of other non-ergonomic keyboards, but he'll probably just deal 
with a standard keyboard.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 1:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


Richard
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RE: iOS eBooks

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richardm,

I know this would be a long shot
But I wondered if there is an emulator like wime that you could run something 
like this in?

Might be worth a look but as I said a very long shot.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS eBooks

The utility is called Codex, and here is the link but it is for Windows and I 
have no idea if there is any similar utilities for Macs:
http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Jan Stirbens 
mailto:jstirb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Hello,

I use a Mac computer.  Is there a utility to convert eBooks to ePub books?  
What is the name of the utility for windows computers?  Maybe there is a mac 
version.

Jan



On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app, unless 
you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a generic 
ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books app.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS reading eBooks

Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices. 
Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of 
searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking.

I appreciate some tech guidance .

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Apple Support

[Alan Lemly]

Vicki,

I agree with Shai about the below Apple Support number provided for the US. I 
would also suggest that you try the Apple Support app to see if that helps when 
you need their assistance.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Re: Apple Support

Hello,
If you are in the United States, the number is 1-800-694-7466

On 6/18/20, Vicki W.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have hunted high and low for the regular Apple support phone number, 
> not the accessibility number, but I can't find it anywhere. Does 
> anyone have that phone number?
>
> Thank you.
>
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RE: passcode question

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Vicki,

 

The way you can prevent from unlocking your phone so much is to create either a 
fingerprint or face ID whichever your phone has. The only time I have to enter 
my passcode is when I first restart my phone.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Jenn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:24 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: passcode question

 

Hi,

 

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

 

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

 

Vicki

 

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Re: passcode question

[Vicki W.]

Let me start over. My mistake.

The phone is set to never lock. Passcode is set to use after 4 hours. So, if 
the phone is locked manually, and it stays locked more than four hours, the 
passcode is needed. Can it be changed to not need it if the phone is locked 
without turning it off?

It's not my phone so I'm probably not explaining it very well.

Vicki

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:29 PM
  Subject: Re: passcode question


  First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours. 
  If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
  If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
  Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it 
with the face ID.







  Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


 
Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode 
needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type 
it in so often>

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Re: passcode question

[Richard Turner]

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.




Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

Vicki


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passcode question

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
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Re: Choosing a phone company

[Juan Mojena]

Hi Carolyn, I don't know why you need a store? All you really need is someone 
to talk to. Right now I'm paying $150 a month for three phones which includes a 
 19% discount from AT
 They offered a monthly payment for an iPhone 11 Pro Max with 256 GB  the 
representative said that if I do it online I can get the same phone for $18 for 
30 months. That really sounds like a very good deal  but, I don't want a phone 
right now and I really want to get off AT
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, Juan. I definitely liked that about Consumer Cellular. I told them if 
> they ever got a store in our town, I'd be back. Of course, right now, I'm 
> buried in an AT contract, but, hay, $648 is a good price for an iPhone 11 
> that I bought on January 3 of this year. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Thank you very much to all of you for responding to my questions.They were 
> all useful and informati they were all useful and informative. I was told by 
> one of the reps that consumer cellular has all of their call centers in the 
> US this is important to me. I know that Verizon and AT have some of their 
> call centers outside of the US in addition to the ones in the country.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, juan mojena  wrote:
> 
> Well if you saw  my earlier messages I said that the one plus 6T was $600 
> with tax. That’s the The amount that I could afford at the time for a lump 
> sum payment and the 60 had very good reviews so that’s the phone that I 
> chose. I’m not sure what kind of service you would get if you had a problem 
> with a Google or Samsung phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> The Pixel 4's are in the $850 range, but if you're willing to take last 
> year's model, and the 3's are no slouches for phones, they'r3 $600-$700 
> depending on a few options.
> 
> 
>> On 6/18/2020 12:07 PM, juan mojena wrote:
>> I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
>> phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
>> went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and 
>> they were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 
>> but this phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about 
>> $2000?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> For that price,
>> 
>> You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
>> mojena
>> Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
>> 
>> my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model 
>> of a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very 
>> good company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, 
>> their tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is 
>> much worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more 
>> than $600 with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy 
>> another phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because 
>> I’m using Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to 
>> repeat the phrase is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you 
>> dictate. So I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> What is a 1 6 T?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of juan mojena
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
>> 
>> Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an 
>> iPhone 8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I 
>> would have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive 
>> the consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to 
>> use a calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow 
>> you to use such numbers.
>> Juan
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Visible is an awesome company.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
>> Samco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with 
>> service through Visible.com. I believe 

RE: Choosing a phone company

[Carolyn]

Yes, Juan. I definitely liked that about Consumer Cellular. I told them if they 
ever got a store in our town, I'd be back. Of course, right now, I'm buried in 
an AT contract, but, hay, $648 is a good price for an iPhone 11 that I bought 
on January 3 of this year. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Thank you very much to all of you for responding to my questions.They were all 
useful and informati they were all useful and informative. I was told by one of 
the reps that consumer cellular has all of their call centers in the US this is 
important to me. I know that Verizon and AT have some of their call centers 
outside of the US in addition to the ones in the country.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, juan mojena  wrote:

Well if you saw  my earlier messages I said that the one plus 6T was $600 with 
tax. That’s the The amount that I could afford at the time for a lump sum 
payment and the 60 had very good reviews so that’s the phone that I chose. I’m 
not sure what kind of service you would get if you had a problem with a Google 
or Samsung phone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

The Pixel 4's are in the $850 range, but if you're willing to take last year's 
model, and the 3's are no slouches for phones, they'r3 $600-$700 depending on a 
few options.


> On 6/18/2020 12:07 PM, juan mojena wrote:
> I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
> phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
> went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
> were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
> phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> For that price,
> 
> You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
> mojena
> Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model 
> of a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
> company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
> tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
> worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
> with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
> phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m 
> using Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat 
> the phrase is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So 
> I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What is a 1 6 T?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an 
> iPhone 8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I 
> would have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive 
> the consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to 
> use a calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow 
> you to use such numbers.
> Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Visible is an awesome company.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
> Samco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> 
> 
> I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
> through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
> use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two 
> cons to consider and many pros.
> 
> The cons:
> First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
> through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
> Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed 
> in preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially 
> during these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, 
> service in town is very good.
> 
> The pros:
> * Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
> along with hot spot 

Re: Apple Support

[terri elliott]

the number is:  877-204-3930.

Terri

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have hunted high and low for the regular Apple support phone number, not 
> the accessibility number, but I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have that 
> phone number?
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

Thank you very much to all of you for responding to my questions.They were all 
useful and informati they were all useful and informative. I was told by one of 
the reps that consumer cellular has all of their call centers in the US this is 
important to me. I know that Verizon and AT have some of their call centers 
outside of the US in addition to the ones in the country.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, juan mojena  wrote:

Well if you saw  my earlier messages I said that the one plus 6T was $600 with 
tax. That’s the The amount that I could afford at the time for a lump sum 
payment and the 60 had very good reviews so that’s the phone that I chose. I’m 
not sure what kind of service you would get if you had a problem with a Google 
or Samsung phone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

The Pixel 4's are in the $850 range, but if you're willing to take last year's 
model, and the 3's are no slouches for phones, they'r3 $600-$700 depending on a 
few options.


> On 6/18/2020 12:07 PM, juan mojena wrote:
> I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
> phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
> went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
> were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
> phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> For that price,
> 
> You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
> mojena
> Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model 
> of a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
> company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
> tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
> worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
> with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
> phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m 
> using Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat 
> the phrase is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So 
> I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What is a 1 6 T?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an 
> iPhone 8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I 
> would have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive 
> the consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to 
> use a calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow 
> you to use such numbers.
> Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Visible is an awesome company.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
> Samco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> 
> 
> I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
> through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
> use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two 
> cons to consider and many pros.
> 
> The cons:
> First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
> through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
> Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed 
> in preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially 
> during these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, 
> service in town is very good.
> 
> The pros:
> * Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
> along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
> as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was 
> a big draw; I have not been disappointed.
> * That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party 
> Pay group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 
> members for $10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or 
> only $25. No additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay 

Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

Well if you saw  my earlier messages I said that the one plus 6T was $600 with 
tax. That’s the The amount that I could afford at the time for a lump sum 
payment and the 60 had very good reviews so that’s the phone that I chose. I’m 
not sure what kind of service you would get if you had a problem with a Google 
or Samsung phone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

The Pixel 4's are in the $850 range, but if you're willing to take last year's 
model, and the 3's are no slouches for phones, they'r3 $600-$700 depending on a 
few options.


> On 6/18/2020 12:07 PM, juan mojena wrote:
> I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
> phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
> went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
> were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
> phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> For that price,
> 
> You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
> mojena
> Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model 
> of a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
> company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
> tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
> worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
> with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
> phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m 
> using Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat 
> the phrase is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So 
> I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What is a 1 6 T?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an 
> iPhone 8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I 
> would have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive 
> the consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to 
> use a calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow 
> you to use such numbers.
> Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Visible is an awesome company.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
> Samco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> 
> 
> I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
> through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
> use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two 
> cons to consider and many pros.
> 
> The cons:
> First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
> through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
> Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed 
> in preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially 
> during these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, 
> service in town is very good.
> 
> The pros:
> * Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
> along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
> as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was 
> a big draw; I have not been disappointed.
> * That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party 
> Pay group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 
> members for $10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or 
> only $25. No additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. 
> No one shares a bill or any other connection except for getting the group 
> discount. I easily found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within 
> a few minutes.
> * After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
> $100.
> 
> If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
> option.
> HTH,
> Jeff
> 
> At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   I’m trying to choose a 

Re: Apple Support

[Shai]

Hello,
If you are in the United States, the number is 1-800-694-7466

On 6/18/20, Vicki W.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have hunted high and low for the regular Apple support phone number, not
> the accessibility number, but I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have
> that phone number?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Vicki
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Apple Support

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

I have hunted high and low for the regular Apple support phone number, not the 
accessibility number, but I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have that phone 
number?

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Re: Choosing a phone company

[Steve Matzura]

The Pixel 4's are in the $850 range, but if you're willing to take last 
year's model, and the 3's are no slouches for phones, they'r3 $600-$700 
depending on a few options.



On 6/18/2020 12:07 PM, juan mojena wrote:

I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

For that price,

You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of a  
phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good company and 
it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their tech-support 
leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much worse than that.The 
phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 with tax included.I 
wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another phone from them.I I 
really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using Siri and it is really 
miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase is that you it seems to 
repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



   I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see if the 
company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT and they use 
AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they think about the service?
   Thank you very much in advance.
   Juan


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Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

For that price,

You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using 
Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase 
is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for 
that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



  I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see 
if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?
  Thank you very much in advance.
  Juan


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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Carolyn]

There really are a lot of Android phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using 
Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase 
is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for 
that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



   I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to 
see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than 
AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do 
they think about the service?
   Thank you very much in advance.
   Juan
   
   
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RE: iOS eBooks

[Richard Turner]

No.
Only Kindle and only with the older version of Kindle for PC mentioned on his 
site.
The reason I never purchase Apple eBooks is that I don’t like reading in the 
Apple Books app and I’ve not found anything that wasn’t on bookshare that 
wasn’t available in Kindle that I wanted to read.
I should say that as far as I can tell, Kindle has everything Apple has and 
possibly more.

But, I don’t really know since I avoid Apple Books.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenifer 
Barr
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS eBooks

Hi Richard so will this utility convert purchased apple books into epub? If 
so you have just made me extremely happy! lol.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 18, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 The utility is called Codex, and here is the link but it is for Windows and I 
have no idea if there is any similar utilities for Macs:
http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Jan Stirbens 
mailto:jstirb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Hello,

I use a Mac computer.  Is there a utility to convert eBooks to ePub books?  
What is the name of the utility for windows computers?  Maybe there is a mac 
version.

Jan



On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app, unless 
you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a generic 
ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books app.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS reading eBooks

Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices. 
Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of 
searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking.

I appreciate some tech guidance .

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: iOS eBooks

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Richard so will this utility convert purchased apple books into epub? If 
so you have just made me extremely happy! lol. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  The utility is called Codex, and here is the link but it is for Windows and 
> I have no idea if there is any similar utilities for Macs:
> http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Jan Stirbens  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hello,
>> 
>> I use a Mac computer.  Is there a utility to convert eBooks to ePub books?  
>> What is the name of the utility for windows computers?  Maybe there is a mac 
>> version.
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
>>> If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app, 
>>> unless you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a 
>>> generic ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
>>> If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iOS reading eBooks
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my 
>>> iDevices. Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am 
>>> thinking of searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking. 
>>> 
>>> I appreciate some tech guidance . 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Traci  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for the replies.
Since they want to use it with both an iPhone and an iPad 7, wired is not ideal.
There may be a Surface keyboard that is bluetooth that could work, at three 
times the price of other non-ergonomic keyboards, but he'll probably just deal 
with a standard keyboard.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 18, 2020, at 1:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


Richard
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Re: iOS eBooks

[Richard Turner]

The utility is called Codex, and here is the link but it is for Windows and I 
have no idea if there is any similar utilities for Macs:
http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Jan Stirbens  wrote:

 Hello,

I use a Mac computer.  Is there a utility to convert eBooks to ePub books?  
What is the name of the utility for windows computers?  Maybe there is a mac 
version.

Jan


On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app, unless 
you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a generic 
ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books app.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS reading eBooks

Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices. 
Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of 
searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking.

I appreciate some tech guidance .

Thanks,
Traci

Sent from my iPad

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drop in

[Robert Doc Wright]

I have tried everything to get drop in to work. it only seems to see devices I 
have registered. I tried to allow my wife and double tapped allow drop in on 
her contact card but there was no check box or save button. So how do I know 
when it is activated? So far it is not working 

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RE: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard

I’m pretty sure that Microsoft still have their urg keyboards out there 
somewhere.

And I thought Logitech had one also,

I’m not sure about the Bluetooth side of things but wired wouldn’t be a silly 
idea for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


Richard
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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Simon A Fogarty]

For that price,

You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using 
Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase 
is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for 
that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

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juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
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Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



   I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to 
see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than 
AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do 
they think about the service?
   Thank you very much in advance.
   Juan
   
   
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iOS eBooks

[Jan Stirbens]

Hello,

I use a Mac computer.  Is there a utility to convert eBooks to ePub books?  
What is the name of the utility for windows computers?  Maybe there is a mac 
version.

Jan


> On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
> If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
> If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app, unless 
> you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a generic 
> ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
> If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books app.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Traci Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: iOS reading eBooks
> 
> Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices. 
> Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of 
> searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking. 
> 
> I appreciate some tech guidance . 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Traci  
> 
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