RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Alan Lemly]

Shirley,

 

I believe you can have up to 10 devices on one prepaid account. You should 
verify this by talking to Verizon either using the Accessibility number 
previously provided or the Verizon Prepaid number which is 888-294-6804.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Are these prepay plans just for one person in your house or can they be for two 
using the same account?

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 18, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Arnold,

 

The Verizon Accessibility phone number is 888-262-1999. Their website is:

 

http://www.vzw.com/accessibility

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

What is the Verizon Accessibility number?I want to check into these plans, I 
hope they are not just lans for your area.  Thanks in advance. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six


On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:

I did call Verizon Accessibility today and had them walk me through my current 
bill; that gave me an opportunity to ask a few questions about pricing.  Thank 
goodness for the accessibility line.  When I tried calling the regular number, 
I was given this message about the reduced staff due to COVID and pretty much 
given the only option of clicking on a link they texted to me to do an online 
chat session.  I hung up and called the accessibility line and got a person 
after maybe a 10 minute wait.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Xfinity is great if you have their internet. 

We were on Consumer cellular before Xfinity offered their plan.

Consumer cellular was quite affordable and very good customer service.

I suggest calling the various companies.

I know Consumer Cellular will give you all the details up front.

Verizon does have an accessibility department, so maybe they would be more 
helpful.

I don't have much experience with anyone else.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert







On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:36 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:

 

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven’t had the 
time.  

 

Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not. 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Fazil]

No, bud! You arn't the only one.

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Hi folks,
I received this email message 26 times. Was I the only one who received this 
email so many times? I am wondering what happened!


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> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
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> mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the 
> same song as belonging to different birds at different times.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> Pam
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Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Esther]

I also received this message quite a few times as well. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> You are not alone as I also received it a whole bunch of times.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
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>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I received this email message 26 times. Was I the only one who received this 
>> email so many times? I am wondering what happened!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by 
>>> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did 
>>> find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will 
>>> identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different times.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> Pam
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RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Alan Lemly]

Barbara,

 

When you are displaying the App Store updates screen, do a 3 finger swipe down 
a few times to refresh the screen. This should cause your device to display all 
the current updates.

 

Now that I know I can get the time remaining from the mini player or from the 
library list, I'm not too bothered by its omission from the full player screen. 
I normally use the Audible app while my phone is locked in my pocket so I'm 
seldom accessing the full player anyway.

 

Thanks for your help with the issue.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

Well, I went to the app store and looked at the audible app page there and it 
says there was an update 5 days ago that for some reason is not showing up in 
my available updates yet. So I guess that my version is not the latest version. 
This kind of thing is why I disabled the automatic update feature in settings. 
I do not like to be surprised by unwelcome changes in a perfectly working app. 

There is just one more thing you could try that I can think of. If you double 
tap the more button in the full player, there is a player settings button. 
Double tap that and scroll through the options and see if there is a option to 
show the time remaining in the full player. My version does not have this 
option in that menu, but my version also still has the time remaining section 
in the full player. 

If not, I hope they fix this soon, because it was really nice having that 
feature in the full player and there is no reason that I can think of for 
leaving it out.  





On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Barbara,

 

Yes, I'm using the US version of the Audible app.

 

Here are the controls Voiceover announces to me when I'm in the full player 
view beginning in the upper lefthand corner of the screen:

 

Close

Car mode

More

Title of the book with a button within the image to Send this book to a new 
Audible invitee

The chapter number of the book

Player scrubber with the number of minutes elapsed and remaining in the current 
chapter

Connect to a device

Jump back

Play

Jump forward

Narration speed

Chapters

Sleep timer

Clip

 

I thought this being an older book from the late 1990's might make a difference 
but I'm seeing the same full player controls on a book I purchased last week.

 

Maybe someone can enlighten me when the term player scrubber started being used 
for the playback timeline. That seems a poor choice of words for that control 
in my opinion.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

That is so weird. Are you using the u.s version of the app? 

What do you see when you open the full player? 

At the top left I have close, then car mode then more then the name of the 
currently playing audible book then time remaining and then the time remaining 
in the current section and then the percentage of the book that I have read so 
far. 

What do you see? 

I have checked my app updates and there's none for audible. So my version 
should be the latest version available. 

Maybe you should try uninstalling the app and reinstalling it? Sometimes doing 
things like that will fix weird issues that are popping up. 






On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Barbara,

 

Thanks for your comments. I'm not seeing the time remaining when I open the 
full player without the book playing. I do see the time remaining in the mini 
player when I swipe right once after the play button to land on the book title. 
I can confirm that I do get the remaining book time when on my book in the 
library list. I was not aware of that feature so thank you.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

Double tapping the mini player at the bottum of the screen still brings up the 
full player and I can still see the time remaining in the book.  

As far as I know I have the latest update. I double tap the player without the 
book actually playing. 

You can also lock the screen while the book is playing push the power button 
once and then swipe down the screen until you find the player controls, you can 
see what position you are in there. 

You can also open your audible library and scroll to the book you are currently 
listening to and it should tell you how much time is remaining. 

 







On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:18 AM, A

Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Barbara Stahl]

Well, I went to the app store and looked at the audible app page there and it 
says there was an update 5 days ago that for some reason is not showing up in 
my available updates yet. So I guess that my version is not the latest version. 
This kind of thing is why I disabled the automatic update feature in settings. 
I do not like to be surprised by unwelcome changes in a perfectly working app. 
There is just one more thing you could try that I can think of. If you double 
tap the more button in the full player, there is a player settings button. 
Double tap that and scroll through the options and see if there is a option to 
show the time remaining in the full player. My version does not have this 
option in that menu, but my version also still has the time remaining section 
in the full player. 
If not, I hope they fix this soon, because it was really nice having that 
feature in the full player and there is no reason that I can think of for 
leaving it out.  

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Barbara,
>  
> Yes, I'm using the US version of the Audible app.
>  
> Here are the controls Voiceover announces to me when I'm in the full player 
> view beginning in the upper lefthand corner of the screen:
>  
> Close
> Car mode
> More
> Title of the book with a button within the image to Send this book to a new 
> Audible invitee
> The chapter number of the book
> Player scrubber with the number of minutes elapsed and remaining in the 
> current chapter
> Connect to a device
> Jump back
> Play
> Jump forward
> Narration speed
> Chapters
> Sleep timer
> Clip
>  
> I thought this being an older book from the late 1990's might make a 
> difference but I'm seeing the same full player controls on a book I purchased 
> last week.
>  
> Maybe someone can enlighten me when the term player scrubber started being 
> used for the playback timeline. That seems a poor choice of words for that 
> control in my opinion.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
> version of the Audible app?
>  
> That is so weird. Are you using the u.s version of the app? 
> What do you see when you open the full player? 
> At the top left I have close, then car mode then more then the name of the 
> currently playing audible book then time remaining and then the time 
> remaining in the current section and then the percentage of the book that I 
> have read so far. 
> What do you see? 
> I have checked my app updates and there's none for audible. So my version 
> should be the latest version available. 
> Maybe you should try uninstalling the app and reinstalling it? Sometimes 
> doing things like that will fix weird issues that are popping up. 
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Barbara,
>  
> Thanks for your comments. I'm not seeing the time remaining when I open the 
> full player without the book playing. I do see the time remaining in the mini 
> player when I swipe right once after the play button to land on the book 
> title. I can confirm that I do get the remaining book time when on my book in 
> the library list. I was not aware of that feature so thank you.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
> version of the Audible app?
>  
> Double tapping the mini player at the bottum of the screen still brings up 
> the full player and I can still see the time remaining in the book.  
> As far as I know I have the latest update. I double tap the player without 
> the book actually playing. 
> You can also lock the screen while the book is playing push the power button 
> once and then swipe down the screen until you find the player controls, you 
> can see what position you are in there. 
> You can also open your audible library and scroll to the book you are 
> currently listening to and it should tell you how much time is remaining. 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:18 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> I did call Audible and got a very helpful support person. She told me the 
> remaining time was on the mini player which is near the bottom just above the 
> bottomline buttons which include Home, Library, etc. from left to right. I 
> find that swiping once to the right when focus is on the mini player play 
> button lands me on the book title which is announced followed by the current 
> chapter number and then the time remaining in the book. I'm pretty certain 
> this information used to be announced when in the full player mode but I 
> might be wrong about that.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mai

Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Robin]

This is made Possible via Microsoft's YourPhone MobileApp, 
which  Allows Users of Samsung MobilePhones to Receive 
Notifications  i.e., TextMessages as well as Other Notifications  on 
Their PC. It allows  other Things to be Used  as well, but it Slips 
MyMind at the moment.


This MobileApp, YourPhone ByMicrosoft is also available  on Apple's 
iOS too, but Don't know How much it is Limited  due to Apple's Constraints

At 07:04 PM 7/18/2020, you wrote:

Simon:

My computer tech has a Samsung, and he gets all his text messages 
sent to his PC.  I am not sure if it is automatic, or if it is a 
program he has downloaded.


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Re: Want to sync iPhone 6 and iPhone S E 2020

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

What I would do is to turn the new phone on. Then press the home button three 
times after a few seconds of waiting for the new phone to turn on.

Now, make sure your old phone i on
A message should pop asking you if you want to sync the two phones. Double tap 
yes.

Now you will have to follow the prompts that will ask you to double tap on a 
button so that you can verify and start the transfer. There is a numeric code 
that must be entered on your new phone. There is a manual option so you don’t 
have to have the cameras right by each other.

After that, it should be self-explanatory. If you get lost, don’t hesitate to 
reach out to me at pup...@icloud.com

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Donald Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The subject says it.  I backed up my 6 to iCloud and now want to download 
> everything on the 6 to my S E.  I turned off Find my iPhone and know how to 
> get to iCloud on my S E.  But now what do I do?
> 
> 
> 
> I probably should mention that I started first to set up the phone including 
> the network, user name and password, etc., and I realize that I could reset 
> the phone and start from scratch; however, I hope not to have to do that 
> because I am clumsy using the phone's keyboard and work far better when I 
> have a blue tooth keyboard installed.  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
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Weird lyft problem

[Kellie]

hey everyone, I wanted to come out here and see if anyone is experiencing the 
same weird issue that my husband is having with the Lyft app. so, if he is 
going to input a Destiination that he has not been to recently and doesn’t pop 
up in the list of possible choices, he goes to search for a new address and 
when you put the address in voice over refuses to speak any of the results. 
Never used to do this but it is now. Oddly enough though, my phone is not 
having that problem neither my 11 Pro nor 8+ which I had before and he 
currently has. 
The app has been updated to the most recent version, he has also tried deleting 
and reinstalling it several times and yet he still having the same problem. Yet 
I can go in and search for a new location and book the ride with no problems. 
Can anyone figure out what or why this is happening and how to fix it? Thanks 
in advance

Kellie and Loki  
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Want to sync iPhone 6 and iPhone S E 2020

[Donald Roberts]

The subject says it.  I backed up my 6 to iCloud and now want to 
download everything on the 6 to my S E.  I turned off Find my iPhone and 
know how to get to iCloud on my S E.  But now what do I do?



I probably should mention that I started first to set up the phone 
including the network, user name and password, etc., and I realize that 
I could reset the phone and start from scratch; however, I hope not to 
have to do that because I am clumsy using the phone's keyboard and work 
far better when I have a blue tooth keyboard installed.


Thanks.


Don Roberts


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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Simon:

My computer tech has a Samsung, and he gets all his text messages sent to his 
PC.  I am not sure if it is automatic, or if it is a program he has downloaded.

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Mike:

I think I will let it rest for now.

I get other attachments all the time, so know they are enabled.

As others have suggested, I can copy and paste the body of the text into an 
email,.  One thing about technology, there is always more than one way of 
accomplishing a given task.

Thanks for helping me understand what may be going on.

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RE: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Simon A Fogarty]

But it really shouldn’t matter as it’s the products you’re using and the 
related protocols behind them.

Email on a phone is email
It’s the app that you’re reading them in that makes things look different,
But email is email
Text is text

The big question will be does your provider allow you to do what you are 
requesting.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

That's what my steps are based on iPhone to PC.  I can't imagine they would be 
different if it were phone to phone.  But, have I ever been wrong?!  Damn 
straight, many times and this wouldn't be my 1st time just today!  LOL  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please 
everybody.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

Mike:

Would that work if you were sending the text to a PC and not a phone?
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RE: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Holly,

I just remembered that I know Samsung had a built in feature that did this for 
you.

That’s going back a few years now so I’m not sure if it’s still in the android 
platform.

It sent every text you received to a specific email address setup in the 
configuration of the texting service of the phone.

I’ve never seen this on an iphone

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 3:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Richard:

I was trying to send the text to a PC, not a phone, and I guess that is not 
possible.

I can send an email from my phone to a PC, and also send a email message to  
another phone AS A TEXT, but guess not what I am trying to do.
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RE: one new bug in ios13.6

[Simon A Fogarty]

Interesting 
I've not really taken any notice of this if it's happening.

I'll have to take more notice from now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 2:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right 
with one finger.
It means VoiceOver cannot go any further.

You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field.

But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field 
and had typed a wrong letter.  When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but 
that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing.
Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

 Can you explain this issue better,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug 
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and 
over on accessibility groups on facebook.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille issue you speak of.

I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe 
that wasin a later report .



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report 
this issue.

When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not 
a pleasant thing.

When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual 
keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone 
XR 64 GB.

The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been 
confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad 
as well as a phone.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Mike B]

Holly,

If you could set up a second account as IMAP you could possibly synchronize 
the folders on the server to your email client.  I can't say this for 
certain with WLM, but this is what I do with OE.  Do you have any setting in 
WLM that prohibits you from downloading messages with attachments?  If so, 
try disabling it to see what happens.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some 
grass over that crap and move on!

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From: Holly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address


Mike:

It is a POP 3 account.

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Re: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Shirley Baker]

Are these prepay plans just for one person in your house or can they be for two 
using the same account?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Arnold,
>  
> The Verizon Accessibility phone number is 888-262-1999. Their website is:
>  
> http://www.vzw.com/accessibility
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans
>  
> What is the Verizon Accessibility number?I want to check into these plans, I 
> hope they are not just lans for your area.  Thanks in advance. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> 
> On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I did call Verizon Accessibility today and had them walk me through my 
> current bill; that gave me an opportunity to ask a few questions about 
> pricing.  Thank goodness for the accessibility line.  When I tried calling 
> the regular number, I was given this message about the reduced staff due to 
> COVID and pretty much given the only option of clicking on a link they texted 
> to me to do an online chat session.  I hung up and called the accessibility 
> line and got a person after maybe a 10 minute wait. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans
>  
> Xfinity is great if you have their internet.
> We were on Consumer cellular before Xfinity offered their plan.
> Consumer cellular was quite affordable and very good customer service.
> I suggest calling the various companies.
> I know Consumer Cellular will give you all the details up front.
> Verizon does have an accessibility department, so maybe they would be more 
> helpful.
> I don't have much experience with anyone else.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:36 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
> out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 
> 2020 and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out 
> T-Mobile’s site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with 
> Verizon’s site. It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling 
> plans.   Am I missing something?  For those who have shopped around, what is 
> your method?  I’m inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but 
> haven’t had the time. 
>  
> Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
> easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet 
> service, which I do not.
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Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Diane Giannetti]

You are not alone as I also received it a whole bunch of times.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I received this email message 26 times. Was I the only one who received this 
> email so many times? I am wondering what happened!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
>> song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
>> mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the 
>> same song as belonging to different birds at different times.
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> Pam
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Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Cris Ali]

Hi folks,
I received this email message 26 times. Was I the only one who received this 
email so many times? I am wondering what happened!


Sent from my iPhone

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> song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
> mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the 
> same song as belonging to different birds at different times.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> Pam
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RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Alan Lemly]

Barbara,

 

Yes, I'm using the US version of the Audible app.

 

Here are the controls Voiceover announces to me when I'm in the full player 
view beginning in the upper lefthand corner of the screen:

 

Close

Car mode

More

Title of the book with a button within the image to Send this book to a new 
Audible invitee

The chapter number of the book

Player scrubber with the number of minutes elapsed and remaining in the current 
chapter

Connect to a device

Jump back

Play

Jump forward

Narration speed

Chapters

Sleep timer

Clip

 

I thought this being an older book from the late 1990's might make a difference 
but I'm seeing the same full player controls on a book I purchased last week.

 

Maybe someone can enlighten me when the term player scrubber started being used 
for the playback timeline. That seems a poor choice of words for that control 
in my opinion.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

That is so weird. Are you using the u.s version of the app? 

What do you see when you open the full player? 

At the top left I have close, then car mode then more then the name of the 
currently playing audible book then time remaining and then the time remaining 
in the current section and then the percentage of the book that I have read so 
far. 

What do you see? 

I have checked my app updates and there's none for audible. So my version 
should be the latest version available. 

Maybe you should try uninstalling the app and reinstalling it? Sometimes doing 
things like that will fix weird issues that are popping up. 





On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Barbara,

 

Thanks for your comments. I'm not seeing the time remaining when I open the 
full player without the book playing. I do see the time remaining in the mini 
player when I swipe right once after the play button to land on the book title. 
I can confirm that I do get the remaining book time when on my book in the 
library list. I was not aware of that feature so thank you.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

Double tapping the mini player at the bottum of the screen still brings up the 
full player and I can still see the time remaining in the book.  

As far as I know I have the latest update. I double tap the player without the 
book actually playing. 

You can also lock the screen while the book is playing push the power button 
once and then swipe down the screen until you find the player controls, you can 
see what position you are in there. 

You can also open your audible library and scroll to the book you are currently 
listening to and it should tell you how much time is remaining. 

 






On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:18 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Hi Richard,

 

I did call Audible and got a very helpful support person. She told me the 
remaining time was on the mini player which is near the bottom just above the 
bottomline buttons which include Home, Library, etc. from left to right. I find 
that swiping once to the right when focus is on the mini player play button 
lands me on the book title which is announced followed by the current chapter 
number and then the time remaining in the book. I'm pretty certain this 
information used to be announced when in the full player mode but I might be 
wrong about that.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

I don’t find it anywhere.

There was a spot before I opened the mini player that said there were 11 hours 
and 1 minutes left.

However, that number didn’t change after it had played for a couple of minutes.

When I opened the mini player, that info disappeared.

 

If it is there visually, then it will be worth writing them, or calling them.

It is probably worth writing or calling even if it isn’t there visually because 
it should be.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:52 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Mike: 

It is a POP 3 account.

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Mike B]

Is your WLM set up as POP3 or IMAP?  If it were set up as IMAP you could 
access your spam folder.  At least with Outlook Express when I set up an 
identity as IMAP I can view all folders via OE that are on the server.  I 
typically set up my 2 main email identities in both POP & IMAP.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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- Original Message - 
From: Holly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address


They are in my iPhone message app and show as delivered.

I am using Windows Live Mail that goes through Comcast.  Maybe they went 
into my Comcast spam folder.  Unfortunately, The Comcast website is not very 
accessible and I can’t see my spam folder.

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Re: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Richard Turner]

I could not find my other reply, so have no idea, but the answer is the same.
I do not believe you can copy files to an external drive via a cable with iOS 
12.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Amirudin Abdullah  
wrote:

hi richard,
thanks for replying. so, since my ios 12 cannot run ios 13, that's why
i am looking for otg.
for the reply on the other thread, i tried searching for otg for email
archives but since i didnt find enough info that's why i asked. Could
you point me where you replies? under what subject?
thanks


On 7/19/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
I may have answered this under a different thread, but I think that
capability came with iOS 13 and your 5S will not run iOS 13.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Amirudin Abdullah
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

Hi,
i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to
transfer files from and to it.
so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also need to
install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the otg cable so
that you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible app for this.
i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

They are in my iPhone message app and show as delivered.

I am using Windows Live Mail that goes through Comcast.  Maybe they went into 
my Comcast spam folder.  Unfortunately, The Comcast website is not very 
accessible and I can’t see my spam folder.

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Mike B]

I don't know why unless your PC email service saw the message as spam or 
something.  I forwarded / sent 3 text messages as email to 3 different email 
addresses and received all 3 as text messages attached to the new emails.  1 
went to, Fastmail, and the other 2 went to, Spectrum / Charter.  Did you 
look in your iPhone Mail app / Sent folder to see if they actually sent?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address


Mike:

Well, not working for me.  I see the message I wanted to forward in my 
message list and it is marked ‘delivered’, but it never came to my PC.  I 
have my settings set so that, when my PC email program is open, no emails go 
to my phone email.  When I close my PC email program, all emails go to my 
phone email app.

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Re: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Amirudin Abdullah]

hi richard,
thanks for replying. so, since my ios 12 cannot run ios 13, that's why
i am looking for otg.
for the reply on the other thread, i tried searching for otg for email
archives but since i didnt find enough info that's why i asked. Could
you point me where you replies? under what subject?
thanks


On 7/19/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I may have answered this under a different thread, but I think that
> capability came with iOS 13 and your 5S will not run iOS 13.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Amirudin Abdullah
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: otg with iphone 5s ios 12
>
> Hi,
> i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to
> transfer files from and to it.
> so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
> because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also need to
> install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the otg cable so
> that you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible app for this.
> i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
> thanks
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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Mike:

Well, not working for me.  I see the message I wanted to forward in my message 
list and it is marked ‘delivered’, but it never came to my PC.  I have my 
settings set so that, when my PC email program is open, no emails go to my 
phone email.  When I close my PC email program, all emails go to my phone email 
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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Mike B]

That's what my steps are based on iPhone to PC.  I can't imagine they would 
be different if it were phone to phone.  But, have I ever been wrong?!  Damn 
straight, many times and this wouldn't be my 1st time just today!  LOL  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address


Mike:

Would that work if you were sending the text to a PC and not a phone?

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annoying Extra characters when importing from computer to Drafts

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’m encountering a minor annoyance when I Dropbox a Markdown document created here on my Laptop with Word2019, and theWritage plug-in, when imported into Drafts, extra characters get in (inverted slash, less than and Greater Than,extra New lines),and though it’s a little annoying having toremove them by hand, what can I do for the document to be imported as cleanly without these extra characters?  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 



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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

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Mike:

Would that work if you were sending the text to a PC and not a phone?

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Mike B]

Hi Holly,

This is how I forward a text message to an email address if the email 
address is in my iPhone contacts:

1. Double tap the unopen text message, swipe up / down to, More, and double 
tap.

2. Swipe right to, Forward, and double tap.  This puts me on the, To field, 
so swipe right to, Add contact button double tap to open.

3. Locate the contact and double tap, find the desired email address and 
double tap, swipe to the, subject line and enter something into the field.

4. Swipe to, Send, and double tap.
Note:  when you receive the text message it will be an attachment to the 
email.

This is how I forward a text message to an email address that is not  in my 
iPhone contacts:

1. Double tap the unopen text message, swipe up / down to, More, and double 
tap.

2. Swipe right to, Forward, and double tap.  This puts me on the, To field, 
so type in the email address.

3. Swipe to the, Subject field, and put something in here.

4. Swipe to, Send, and double tap.
Note:  when you receive the text message it will be an attachment to the 
email.



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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everybody.

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Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address


Richard:

Looks like this article is for sending an email to a mobile number, but I 
want to send a ttext message to a Comcast email address.

Don’t think it is possible.


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Re: BI40

[Joney]

Hi Daniel.
I don’t know that this one would be for you. It’s a great machine, and built 
like a tank. :-) It only has about 10 hours worth of use. So I’ve had it about 
a year and a half. It does not have the problem holding a very stiff from 
display. That’s why I was pleased to have it. They sell for 3000 new. 2995. And 
I was asking 24. Because it also has the executive case which is $100 on its 
own. 
I hope you’re able to find something that works super well for you if this is 
not what you’re looking for. Take care..

Joney
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"If God can bring you to it, 
He will lead you through it."  

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> She said in her message she wants $2400 for her display.
> Depending on if you want something that can read files from an SD card or 
> just over Bluetooth with your smart phone, there are lots of choices now for 
> brand new units for less or the same.
> Let us know if you want something that primarily works just with your phone 
> like the BI40, or if you want something you can put files on an SD card and 
> read them and we can help with other suggestions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
> MacDonald
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BI40
> 
> hello Joney,
> I am looking for a cheep braile display to improve my reading and 
> comprehention, as I read at a third-grade level, and need lots of help 
> braking up words. need to find out when I come across a word I don't know, 
> what are the shapes of the braille letters? what are the sounds they make, am 
> I sure if I if what I think is correct is actually correct? so that is why 
> your display sounds awesome for me. how much are you celling it for? will you 
> ship to Pine Vale antigonish county, Nova Scotia, Canada?
> sincenerly,
> Daniel Angus MacDonald
> 
>> On 7/17/20, Joney  wrote:
>> If anyone knows of someone looking for a display I have a B  I40 which 
>> is going to be looking for a new home. Touch never return to my hands 
>> very well after I was sick and so reading braille on its own is very 
>> difficult. I’m asking 2400 for it and I have the executive case to go 
>> with it as well. Let me know if you guys know of anybody and pass the 
>> message on please thank you
>> 
>> Joney
>> talk2o...@gmail.com
>> "If God can bring you to it,
>> He will lead you through it."
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RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Alan,

This is great information. I didn’t know Verizon had an accessibility 
department. I called and found out they are open from 8 AM to 9 PM 
Monday-Friday. I’m certain I’ll be speaking with them.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Arnold,

 

The Verizon Accessibility phone number is 888-262-1999. Their website is:

 

http://www.vzw.com/accessibility

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

What is the Verizon Accessibility number?I want to check into these plans, I 
hope they are not just lans for your area.  Thanks in advance. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six


On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

I did call Verizon Accessibility today and had them walk me through my current 
bill; that gave me an opportunity to ask a few questions about pricing.  Thank 
goodness for the accessibility line.  When I tried calling the regular number, 
I was given this message about the reduced staff due to COVID and pretty much 
given the only option of clicking on a link they texted to me to do an online 
chat session.  I hung up and called the accessibility line and got a person 
after maybe a 10 minute wait.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Xfinity is great if you have their internet. 

We were on Consumer cellular before Xfinity offered their plan.

Consumer cellular was quite affordable and very good customer service.

I suggest calling the various companies.

I know Consumer Cellular will give you all the details up front.

Verizon does have an accessibility department, so maybe they would be more 
helpful.

I don't have much experience with anyone else.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:36 PM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

 

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven’t had the 
time.  

 

Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not. 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Richard Turner]

If you are wanting an app that will tell you what the bird is from hearing the 
song, here is a review that you may find helpful.
https://lifehacker.com/shazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537

If you want one to look up birds and hear what their song is like plus other 
information, check out the free Audubon app.




Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

Hi Pam,

First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those 26 
instances of your email scared me a bit.

Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a ton of 
birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good 
descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the bird 
for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia.

Take care!

Debby 

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James English
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

Hi,

I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent this 26 
times.

- James

On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
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>
> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by 
> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one 
> I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it 
> will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different 
> times.
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> Thanks for any suggestions.
> Pam
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RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Debby]

Hi Pam,

First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those 26 
instances of your email scared me a bit.

Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a ton of 
birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good 
descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the bird 
for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia.

Take care!

Debby 

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James English
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Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

Hi,

I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent this 26 
times.

- James

On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
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> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by 
> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one 
> I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it 
> will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different 
> times.
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> Pam
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Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[James English]

Hi,

I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent
this 26 times.

- James

On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
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> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their
> song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the 
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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
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Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
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Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
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[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their 
song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one I did find 
mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the 
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Pam


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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Ann Byrne]

You can copy the text and paste it into an email.
At 01:15 PM 7/18/2020, you wrote:

Richard:

Looks like this article is for sending an email 
to a mobile number, but I want to send a ttext 
message to a Comcast email address.


Don’t think it is possible.


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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Richard:

That would work.  Guess that is the only way to do it.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

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Richard:

Just one message.

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RE: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Richard Turner]

So, are you trying to forward an entire thread or a single message?
You could use the copy function and just paste the text of the message into an 
Email body…



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Richard:

Looks like this article is for sending an email to a mobile number, but I want 
to send a ttext message to a Comcast email address.

Don’t think it is possible.

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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Richard:

Looks like this article is for sending an email to a mobile number, but I want 
to send a ttext message to a Comcast email address.

Don’t think it is possible.

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RE: one new bug in ios13.6

[Richard Turner]

You may want to try speak instead of do nothing.
If you turn off the boundary sound of course, you will not hear it anywhere, 
which may not be a bad thing.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:48 AM
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Thanx Richard I will try that later on this evening, my setting there now is 
"do nothing". In formertimes it was edit pitch.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached.
You can toggle that sound off there.

Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, 
Deleting text?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6

It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing 
text, in whatsapp, messages, ...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick 
right with one finger.
It means VoiceOver cannot go any further.

You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit 
field.

But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field 
and had typed a wrong letter.  When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, 
but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing.
Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
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granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

Can you explain this issue better,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug 
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over 
and over on accessibility groups on facebook.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille issue you speak of.

I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but 
maybe that wasin a later report .



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not 
report this issue.

When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is 
not a pleasant thing.

When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the 
virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard 
with my iphone XR 64 GB.

The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has 
been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my 
iPad as well as a phone.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56

RE: Typing programs for learning to type for Mac?

[Richard Turner]

I sent this info to my client with the Mac computer.
I noticed they have a Windows version.
I tried it out with Jaws, NVDA, and Narrator.  I could not get any of them to 
reliably read the letters that you are supposed to type automatically.
If you have to stop and read the line to figure out what to type, it isn’t very 
accurate.
I tried following the link in the help menu, but got a 404 server not found 
error.

And, the contact form on the New Mexico commission for the Blind web site is 
less than accessible.
This seems like a potentially great replacement for a paid typing tutor that my 
office uses.
We mostly work with Windows.
Since this will be off topic for this list, if you have any information that 
could help, please write me off list: 
richardturne...@outlook.com

Thanks,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Aedan 
Something
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:22 PM
To: oliver.doug1 via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Typing programs for learning to type for Mac?

Hi, I found keystroke to work. Once I addapted to the fact that when a key is 
pressed Voiceover announces the next character I need to type it worked well. I 
hope it helps.
https://www.cfb.state.nm.us/apps
Aedan


On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Is there any program for Mac computers like the Talking Typer from American 
Printing House on iOS?

Thanks,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


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Re: one new bug in ios13.6

[Davy Cuppens]

Thanx Richard I will try that later on this evening, my setting there now is 
"do nothing". In formertimes it was edit pitch.


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached.
You can toggle that sound off there.

Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, 
Deleting text?





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6

It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing 
text, in whatsapp, messages, ...


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick 
right with one finger.

It means VoiceOver cannot go any further.

You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit 
field.


But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field 
and had typed a wrong letter.  When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, 
but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing.

Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

Can you explain this issue better,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens

Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug 
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over 
and over on accessibility groups on facebook.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille issue you speak of.


I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but 
maybe that wasin a later report .




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens

Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not 
report this issue.


When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is 
not a pleasant thing.


When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the 
virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard 
with my iphone XR 64 GB.


The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has 
been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.


Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my 
iPad as well as a phone.


-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Richard Turner]

I may have answered this under a different thread, but I think that capability 
came with iOS 13 and your 5S will not run iOS 13.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Abdullah
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

Hi,
i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to transfer 
files from and to it.
so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also need to 
install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the otg cable so that 
you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible app for this.
i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
thanks

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Rearranging columns in the Outlook app

[Debby]

Hi All,

 

I am wondering if there is any way to change the order of what is announced
in the Outlook app as you read down the emails. Mine reads who the email is
to and then the subject. For some emails that is fine, but for commercial
emails in particular it can be difficult to tell where the email is coming
from. I like the navigation in the app a whole lot better than the iOS mail
app, but this issue is almost a deal breaker. Any ideas?

 

Thanks! Take care!

 

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RE: BI40

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Hi Daniel,
She said in her message she wants $2400 for her display.
Depending on if you want something that can read files from an SD card or just 
over Bluetooth with your smart phone, there are lots of choices now for brand 
new units for less or the same.
Let us know if you want something that primarily works just with your phone 
like the BI40, or if you want something you can put files on an SD card and 
read them and we can help with other suggestions.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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MacDonald
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BI40

hello Joney,
I am looking for a cheep braile display to improve my reading and 
comprehention, as I read at a third-grade level, and need lots of help braking 
up words. need to find out when I come across a word I don't know, what are the 
shapes of the braille letters? what are the sounds they make, am I sure if I if 
what I think is correct is actually correct? so that is why your display sounds 
awesome for me. how much are you celling it for? will you ship to Pine Vale 
antigonish county, Nova Scotia, Canada?
sincenerly,
Daniel Angus MacDonald

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RE: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Richard Turner]

Well, see if this article from Lifewire helps at all.
Article text is below the link:
https://www.lifewire.com/sms-gateway-from-email-to-sms-text-message-2495456

SMS Gateway: From Email to SMS Text Message
Send an email via SMS or MMS gateway
by Tim Perdue
Updated on August 16, 2019

All the major wireless carriers in the United States offer a Short Message 
Service (SMS) gateway, which is a technology bridge that allows one form of 
communication (email) to conform to the technical requirements of a different 
form of communication (SMS).

One of the typical uses of the SMS gateway is the forwarding of email to a 
mobile device and vice versa. The gateway platform manages the necessary 
protocol mapping to bridge the gap between ?texting and electronic mail systems.

About SMS and MMS
An email message going through an SMS gateway (aka SMS aggregator) is limited 
to 160 characters, so it will likely be broken into several messages or 
truncated if it is longer than that limit. As a result, the recipient may 
receive your message in two or more text messages, and not necessarily in the 
order, you typed the content. If the email is longer than 160 characters or if 
it is an image, video, or recording, send it via Multimedia Messaging Service 
(MMS), which can handle longer messages, rather than SMS. Emailing a text 
message originating from a mobile device and going through an SMS gateway to an 
email address should work fine because emails don't have a character limit.

Most of the major wireless mobile providers offer an SMS and MMS gateway. 
Typically, the wireless providers use a mobile number plus an email domain to 
route email messages through their SMS gateway. For example, if you are sending 
an email to a Verizon Wireless mobile device, you send it to the mobile number 
plus "@vtext.com." If the mobile phone number is 123-456-7890, you send the 
email to 1234567...@vtext.com.


SMS and MMS Gateways for Major Wireless Carriers
The major carriers all follow the same logic for their gateway addresses; the 
only thing that varies is the domain of the email address. Most of the carriers 
use different addresses for SMS and MMS messages, but some, such as T-Mobile, 
use the same address for both.

You have to know your recipient's carrier to select the correct email-to-SMS 
address. After you learn it the first time, record the address in the contacts 
application on your computer or phone so it is at your fingertips when you want 
to send future email-to-SMS messages.

Provider   Email-to-SMS Address Format
AT&T
num...@txt.att.net (SMS)

num...@mms.att.net (MMS)

Boost Mobile
num...@smsmyboostmobile.com (SMS)

num...@myboostmobile.com (MMS)

Cricket
num...@sms.cricketwireless.net (SMS)

num...@mms.cricketwireless.net (MMS)

Sprint
num...@messaging.sprintpcs.com (SMS)

num...@pm.sprint.com (MMS)

T-Mobile  num...@tmomail.net (SMS and MMS)
U.S. Cellular
num...@email.uscc.net (SMS)

num...@mms.uscc.net( MMS)

Verizon
num...@vtext.com (SMS)

num...@vzwpix.com (MMS)

Virgin Mobile
num...@vmobl.com (SMS)

num...@vmpix.com (MMS)

Contemporary Use
Initially, SMS gateways were physical devices with SIM cards and embedded 
radios. Each gateway was connected to a mobile phone network. Modern gateways 
use a Short Message Peer-to-Peer (SMPP) protocol to exchange the SMS messages.

With rich messaging services and robust email apps on today's smartphone 
platforms, SMS gateways are less significant for day-to-day consumer use than 
they were in the flip phone era, although they continue to serve a vital 
purpose for businesses. For example, emergency notifications can be transmitted 
by companies through an SMS gateway to reach employees quickly and ensure that 
an important message isn't lost or delayed while it sits in an inbox.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

Richard:

I was trying to send the text to a PC, not a phone, and I guess that is not 
possible.

I can send an email from my phone to a PC, and also send a email message to  
another phone AS A TEXT, but guess not what I am trying to do.
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RE: Is there an app that does this?

[Richard Turner]

Voice Dream Scanner read my CSV number, but it did not identify it as CSV, it 
just read the digits.  Because I know what it is, I recognized it, but if you 
did not know it, OCR is probably not going to be that helpful.
Maybe your bank has an app that you can securely get that information.



Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amirudin 
Abdullah
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there an app that does this?

Hi,
i guess until now no ocr app that will read the csv number.
and for arabic, envision ai can ocr that.


On 5/20/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> It’s still really a good app for the languages it deals with. It’s 
> unfortunate about Arabic. I am really fascinated that any OCR 
> application does anything at all well with Arabic, because when I was 
> studying it and looked at it with an opticon, I couldn’t imagine how 
> you would deal with it.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 19, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mary,
>> The last time I checked the voice dream scanner was during the Beta.  
>> I was hoping that the plan got expanded somehow to include languages 
>> other than the roman alphabet based languages.  I will keep the hope 
>> alive though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Cris
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 4:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Is there an app that does this?
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>> No. Voice stream scanner will not do Arabic or Hebrew or Russian or 
>> Greek for that matter. It only does languages that have the Roman alphabet.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 19, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>> Does the voice dream scanner app recognize non latin based languages 
>> like Arabic and Hebrew? Does anyone have the email of the developer? 
>> He is probably the one who can tell us if the app can handle 
>> languages other then the latin based ones, or if there are plans to 
>> support them in the future.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 19, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99, read everything on my cards but the 3 
>> digit CSV number.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4686a1c4223d4cf173d608d82b2f8f2
>> 8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306830543656791&
>> ;sdata=kKtAXznO9nTZch2TsA0CZx2KxvjdgPmunEKHqIbG8gE%3D&reserved=0
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. 
>> The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and 
>> miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>
>> From: 'Eve' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 12:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Is there an app that does this?
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there an app that will read a credit or debit card?  If so, what 
>> is it called and where may I find it?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an iPhone 7.  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Eve
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: one new bug in ios13.6

[Richard Turner]

There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached.
You can toggle that sound off there.

Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, 
Deleting text?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6

It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing 
text, in whatsapp, messages, ...

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right 
with one finger.
It means VoiceOver cannot go any further.

You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field.

But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field 
and had typed a wrong letter.  When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but 
that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing.
Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

Can you explain this issue better,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug 
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and 
over on accessibility groups on facebook.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille issue you speak of.

I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe 
that wasin a later report .



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report 
this issue.

When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not 
a pleasant thing.

When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual 
keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone 
XR 64 GB.

The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been 
confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad 
as well as a phone.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Barbara Stahl]

That is so weird. Are you using the u.s version of the app? 
What do you see when you open the full player? 
At the top left I have close, then car mode then more then the name of the 
currently playing audible book then time remaining and then the time remaining 
in the current section and then the percentage of the book that I have read so 
far. 
What do you see? 
I have checked my app updates and there's none for audible. So my version 
should be the latest version available. 
Maybe you should try uninstalling the app and reinstalling it? Sometimes doing 
things like that will fix weird issues that are popping up. 

> On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Barbara,
>  
> Thanks for your comments. I'm not seeing the time remaining when I open the 
> full player without the book playing. I do see the time remaining in the mini 
> player when I swipe right once after the play button to land on the book 
> title. I can confirm that I do get the remaining book time when on my book in 
> the library list. I was not aware of that feature so thank you.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
> version of the Audible app?
>  
> Double tapping the mini player at the bottum of the screen still brings up 
> the full player and I can still see the time remaining in the book.  
> As far as I know I have the latest update. I double tap the player without 
> the book actually playing. 
> You can also lock the screen while the book is playing push the power button 
> once and then swipe down the screen until you find the player controls, you 
> can see what position you are in there. 
> You can also open your audible library and scroll to the book you are 
> currently listening to and it should tell you how much time is remaining. 
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:18 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> I did call Audible and got a very helpful support person. She told me the 
> remaining time was on the mini player which is near the bottom just above the 
> bottomline buttons which include Home, Library, etc. from left to right. I 
> find that swiping once to the right when focus is on the mini player play 
> button lands me on the book title which is announced followed by the current 
> chapter number and then the time remaining in the book. I'm pretty certain 
> this information used to be announced when in the full player mode but I 
> might be wrong about that.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
> version of the Audible app?
>  
> I don’t find it anywhere.
> There was a spot before I opened the mini player that said there were 11 
> hours and 1 minutes left.
> However, that number didn’t change after it had played for a couple of 
> minutes.
> When I opened the mini player, that info disappeared.
>  
> If it is there visually, then it will be worth writing them, or calling them.
> It is probably worth writing or calling even if it isn’t there visually 
> because it should be.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:52 AM
> To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
> Subject: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version 
> of the Audible app?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I'm running the latest version of the Audible app on an iPhone SE 2020 
> running iOS 13.6. I used to could double tap on the Audible mini player when 
> a book was playing and swiping around on the full player would announce the 
> time remaining in the book. I'm much more interested in the book remaining 
> time than the time remaining in a chapter which I really don't need. I 
> updated the Audible app yesterday and I'm no longer hearing the time 
> remaining in the book and was wondering if others using the app are 
> experiencing the same thing. If you can direct me as to how to get the time 
> remaining, I'd love to hear how.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: one new bug in ios13.6

[Davy Cuppens]

It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing 
text, in whatsapp, messages, ...


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick 
right with one finger.

It means VoiceOver cannot go any further.

You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit 
field.


But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field 
and had typed a wrong letter.  When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, 
but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing.

Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

Can you explain this issue better,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens

Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug 
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over 
and over on accessibility groups on facebook.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille issue you speak of.


I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but 
maybe that wasin a later report .




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens

Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not 
report this issue.


When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is 
not a pleasant thing.


When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the 
virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard 
with my iphone XR 64 GB.


The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has 
been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.


Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my 
iPad as well as a phone.


-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: one new bug in ios13.6

[Davy Cuppens]

Sorry but this trick does not resolve the bonk sound bug. You always get the 
tok sound when deleting text at the end of a phrase. It has been reported 
over and over again.


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: chalt...@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

If you go into Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Verbosity do you have deleting 
text set to play sound? This will result in hearing a ping when you delete 
text.


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Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

 Can you explain this issue better,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Davy Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility 
bug
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over 
and

over on accessibility groups on facebook.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille

issue you speak of.

I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks
out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe 
that

wasin a later report .



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Davy Cuppens
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not 
report

this issue.

When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which 
is not

a pleasant thing.

When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the 
virtual

keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my
iphone XR 64 GB.

The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has
been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my 
iPad as

well as a phone.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Alan Lemly]

Arnold,

 

The Verizon Accessibility phone number is 888-262-1999. Their website is:

 

http://www.vzw.com/accessibility

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

What is the Verizon Accessibility number?I want to check into these plans, I 
hope they are not just lans for your area.  Thanks in advance. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six


On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:

I did call Verizon Accessibility today and had them walk me through my current 
bill; that gave me an opportunity to ask a few questions about pricing.  Thank 
goodness for the accessibility line.  When I tried calling the regular number, 
I was given this message about the reduced staff due to COVID and pretty much 
given the only option of clicking on a link they texted to me to do an online 
chat session.  I hung up and called the accessibility line and got a person 
after maybe a 10 minute wait.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Xfinity is great if you have their internet. 

We were on Consumer cellular before Xfinity offered their plan.

Consumer cellular was quite affordable and very good customer service.

I suggest calling the various companies.

I know Consumer Cellular will give you all the details up front.

Verizon does have an accessibility department, so maybe they would be more 
helpful.

I don't have much experience with anyone else.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert






On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:36 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:

 

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven’t had the 
time.  

 

Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not. 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Is there an app that does this?

[Amirudin Abdullah]

Hi,
i guess until now no ocr app that will read the csv number.
and for arabic, envision ai can ocr that.


On 5/20/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> It’s still really a good app for the languages it deals with. It’s
> unfortunate about Arabic. I am really fascinated that any OCR application
> does anything at all well with Arabic, because when I was studying it and
> looked at it with an opticon, I couldn’t imagine how you would deal with
> it.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 19, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mary,
>> The last time I checked the voice dream scanner was during the Beta.  I
>> was hoping that the plan got expanded somehow to include languages other
>> than the roman alphabet based languages.  I will keep the hope alive
>> though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Cris
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 4:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Is there an app that does this?
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>> No. Voice stream scanner will not do Arabic or Hebrew or Russian or Greek
>> for that matter. It only does languages that have the Roman alphabet.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 19, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>> Does the voice dream scanner app recognize non latin based languages like
>> Arabic and Hebrew? Does anyone have the email of the developer? He is
>> probably the one who can tell us if the app can handle languages other
>> then the latin based ones, or if there are plans to support them in the
>> future.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 19, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99, read everything on my cards but the 3 digit
>> CSV number.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>
>> From: 'Eve' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 12:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Is there an app that does this?
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there an app that will read a credit or debit card?  If so, what is it
>> called and where may I find it?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an iPhone 7.  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Eve
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Shirley Baker]

What's the verizon disability number? Never heard of such. Please send it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm the one who told Alan about the $25 prepaid plan.  I'm also on
> that plan.  I wouldn't have known about the new and better plan if I
> hadn't checked the Verizon disability number to see what new plans
> they had.  Being a prepaid member of Verizon is awesome.
> 
>> On 7/18/20, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> Alan, thanks for pricing info re verizon.  Like you, I use their prepaid
>> plans with autopay.  I thought I had a good deal with 6 gb data and
>> unlimited calling and texting for around $35.00.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan
>> Lemly
>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: shopping for mobile plans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I personally like the Verizon prepaid plans. They have currently lowered the
>> price of these plans and you can get 5GB of data with unlimited talk and
>> texting for $30 a month. If you set your account up with autopay, you get an
>> additional discount of $5 per month bringing the total to $25 per month.
>> They have recently introduced a loyalty discount if you have a prepaid plan
>> which costs $40 or more per month. With this loyalty discount, your price is
>> reduced an additional $5 per month after you've submitted three payments and
>> an additional $5 per month for a total loyalty discount of $10 per month
>> after nine payments. Their 15GB prepaid plan has recently been reduced to
>> $40 per month so with the loyalty discount in full effect along with the
>> autopay discount, you can get 15GB of data with unlimited talk and text for
>> $25 per month.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for pre-pay
>> service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 or so,
>> it is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of data even  though the
>> rep said it would be  500 MB.
>> 
>> I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer one
>> plan and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make sure you
>> can live with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only pay
>> $25 monthly for unlimited calls, text, data and hotspot. It uses the Verizon
>> network.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>> Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find
>> out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE
>> 2020 and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out
>> T-Mobile’s site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with
>> Verizon’s site. It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling
>> plans.   Am I missing something?  For those who have shopped around, what is
>> your method?  I’m inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers,
>> but haven’t had the time.
>> 
>> Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least
>> easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet
>> service, which I do not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Forwarding a text message to an email address

[Holly]

Richard:

I was trying to send the text to a PC, not a phone, and I guess that is not 
possible.

I can send an email from my phone to a PC, and also send a email message to  
another phone AS A TEXT, but guess not what I am trying to do.

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RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[Gerardo Corripio]

As do the Amazon A-Lady speakers, as well as the Cool Duo Stream, a matchbox-like gadget used for either connecting to any car or home stereo via 3.5 Auxiliary, or for putting it on an iPod Dock; you bluetooth the Cool Stream Duo to the iPhone, through which the media goes through, but VoiceOver and other phone sounds continue on the phone itself.   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Richard TurnerEnviado: sábado, 18 de julio de 2020 09:45 a. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected Yes, apparently now that I am more alert, to keep the VoiceOver voice on the phone, you need certain speakers.I misunderstood the original question.I thought you were trying to have it so the person on the other end of the phone call could hear VoiceOver…But, hearing voiceOVer on the phone while other sound is going through the speaker does not work on that speaker for sure.It works when I use Airplay with my stereo.At least some times.I know some speakers just work that way, like the one Christopher is using. Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chalt...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:36 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected I’m not sure if Jonathan was talking about this particular speaker, but with IOS 13 on my iPhone 11, I can send the audio of the media I’m streaming over to my JVL Charge 2 while VoiceOver still comes out of my iPhone. --Christopher (AKA CJ)Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 9:29 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected He was probably going through a mixer.  He is a DJ and a professional podcaster with a sound studio. I would not doubt that with the right setup you could do that, but I’m pretty sure he uses a not inexpensive mixer.Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. Scott CarlsonSent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:11 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected Strange—I feel like on Jonathan Mosen's podcast he mentioned this was already possible, but perhaps not. On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote: It's a great speaker for its size. But no I was saying that I don't think you will get the VoiceOver voice over the phone even on an external speaker.   Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote: It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method be in iOS 14? On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner  wrote: There will be an easier way in iOS 14. Right now, I don't think that works.I have that same speaker.   Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option on the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, the option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps it just doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can 

Re: Has anyone tried this app?

[Richard Turner]

Well, I've used this app a ton and not had that issue.
The 5s may not have enough processing power since all the processing is done on 
the phone.
First, make sure you have cleared out your app switcher.
Then, press and hold the power button until it says power off.
Release the power button and press and hold the home button until VoiceOver 
comes back and you are back to the home screen.
This clears out the memory so you should have your maximum processing resources 
available.
If it still crashes after only a few pages, then delete the app and reinstall 
it.
If you still have this issue, write to Voice Dream support again and let us 
know too.
I'll see if I can resurrect an old 5s for testing.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 18, 2020, at 7:49 AM, Amirudin Abdullah  
wrote:

Hi,
to the person asking about voice dream scanner crash after taking few
pages, i also experience this. reported it but no respond.
specs: iphone 5s, ios 12 latest.
maybe that app is processing while we take the pictures so it crashes.


On 4/9/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
I agree it is way overpriced.  They are trying to make up development cost
in a year.  The days of people buying $100 apps for there phone are pretty
much gone I think.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has anyone tried this app?



A little further on the Super Sense app.

I went ahead and tried the free trial.

I think they have good instructions that are voiced for a new user, but
between Seeing AI, which is free, and Voice Dream Scanner, for $5.99, you
can out perform this app in a heartbeat and not waste money.

The Quick View in Super Sense requires that you keep holding the camera over
the text until it is done reading, while Seeing AI Short text,   is easier
because once it is reading well, you can lay the phone down and it will read
everything it captured.

And since Voice Dream Scanner can add multiple pages to one document, I
don’t know why anyone would want Super Sense.



I’m open to finding out I missed something, but that is getting back to KNFb
Reader pricing and it just ain’t worth it.





Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Shirley Healy
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this app?



Hmmm never heard of voice dream scanner, I have voice dream reader though,
will now have to buy voice dream scanner.

shirley

- Original Message -

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:39 PM

Subject: RE: Has anyone tried this app?



After using Voice Dream Scanner, I’m personally not that interested in such
an expensive app.

If someone did a side by side comparison, that would be interesting.

Voice Dream Scanner does all the recognition on the device too, so no
internet needed, and it is only a one time cost of $5.99.







Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Has anyone tried this app?



Read about this on AppleVis rather expensive but does a good job of OCR



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Re: IOS OCR Software: How Good Does It get?

[Amirudin Abdullah]

Hi,
unfortunately my voice dream scanner will crash if i perform
multipage scanns, this is easily reproducable.
iphone 5s, ios 12 latest, voice dream scanner updated to the latest, i
tried uninstall and reinstall it again and again.


On 7/16/19, Craig Werner  wrote:
> Thanks, Richard, for your thoughts, which have helped me develop a
> perspective on Voice Dream Scanner’s abilities and limitations.  Now I know
> not to chase after perfection when scanning inexpensive paperbacks.  Your
> mentioning your experiences with Openbook took me back to the days of my
> flatbed scanner and Kurzweil 1000 software, and I remember that with this
> pairing, I had lots of granular settings to play with.  In the case of
> Voice Dream Scanner and Seeing AI, there are no such settings.  Mind you,
> I’m grateful for today’s innovation of truly portable scanning equipment,
> and I’m sure recognition will get better.  I’ll continue experimenting with
> proper camera focus, document print type, and so on.  I’m hoping other
> folks will join this discussion.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 2:10 PM Richard Turner
> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> First, 2 errors per page is actually very, very good; but I often get
>> zero
>> or 1 on a single page.
>> Do not expect the same from a paper back, especially since it will not
>> separate the two pages at this point.
>> Not to mention that paper backs printing is often less dense than with
>> hard backs.
>> But, if you did one page at a time, by covering the other page with a
>> sheet of paper, you should get very good results.
>> I have compared Voice Dream Scanner with OpenBook on a computer, and
>> other
>> than the page separation; Voice Dream accuracy is equal to OpenBook.
>> You could try it with a stand, like the Fopydo Scanning Stand so you
>> would
>> not have the issue of maybe not holding it perfectly level.
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, everyone.
>>
>> I have been playing with Voice Dream Scanner for about four days.  This
>> is
>> my first experience with OCR software for the iPhone, and I’m wondering
>> what degree of accuracy I should ultimately expect.  I am well aware of
>> all
>> of the conditions that affect accuracy, and I’m the first to admit that I
>> may have much to learn about camera distance and focus, print quality
>> affecting accuracy, and so on.  However, I’m asking about how the
>> software
>> behaves under optimal conditions.
>>
>> Using good lighting, what appears to be decent camera focus based on the
>> steadiness of the Scanner tone, and good printing quality, I can’t do
>> much
>> better than two errors per page using a flat document.  Wehn I try to
>> scan
>> an inexpensive paperback, this error is markedly more disappointing even
>> if
>> I try to flatten the book against the table.
>>
>> I’m thinking anyone can occasionally get an error-free scan, but, for
>> instance, if one were to scan fifteen pages in batch mode using a book or
>> a
>> flast document, what would the average error rate be under very decent
>> conditions?
>>
>> I’m asking this question because as someone learning new software, I want
>> to know what top form means.  I have heard superlatives used to describe
>> the behavior of some OCR readers.  To me, words like “amazing” and
>> “fantastic” should not be used if the average error rate is two per page
>> under optimal conditions.
>>
>> All thoughts are welcome.  I will read everything posted in this thread.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Craig
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Re: BI40

[Daniel MacDonald]

hello Joney,
I am looking for a cheep braile display to improve my reading and
comprehention, as I read at a third-grade level, and need lots of help
braking up words. need to find out when I come across a word I don't
know, what are the shapes of the braille letters? what are the sounds
they make, am I sure if I if what I think is correct is actually
correct? so that is why your display sounds awesome for me. how much
are you celling it for? will you ship to Pine Vale antigonish county,
Nova Scotia, Canada?
sincenerly,
Daniel Angus MacDonald

On 7/17/20, Joney  wrote:
> If anyone knows of someone looking for a display I have a B  I40 which is
> going to be looking for a new home. Touch never return to my hands very well
> after I was sick and so reading braille on its own is very difficult. I’m
> asking 2400 for it and I have the executive case to go with it as well. Let
> me know if you guys know of anybody and pass the message on please thank
> you
>
> Joney
> talk2o...@gmail.com
> "If God can bring you to it,
> He will lead you through it."
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Re: Has anyone tried this app?

[Amirudin Abdullah]

Hi,
to the person asking about voice dream scanner crash after taking few
pages, i also experience this. reported it but no respond.
specs: iphone 5s, ios 12 latest.
maybe that app is processing while we take the pictures so it crashes.


On 4/9/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
> I agree it is way overpriced.  They are trying to make up development cost
> in a year.  The days of people buying $100 apps for there phone are pretty
> much gone I think.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Has anyone tried this app?
>
>
>
> A little further on the Super Sense app.
>
> I went ahead and tried the free trial.
>
> I think they have good instructions that are voiced for a new user, but
> between Seeing AI, which is free, and Voice Dream Scanner, for $5.99, you
> can out perform this app in a heartbeat and not waste money.
>
> The Quick View in Super Sense requires that you keep holding the camera over
> the text until it is done reading, while Seeing AI Short text,   is easier
> because once it is reading well, you can lay the phone down and it will read
> everything it captured.
>
> And since Voice Dream Scanner can add multiple pages to one document, I
> don’t know why anyone would want Super Sense.
>
>
>
> I’m open to finding out I missed something, but that is getting back to KNFb
> Reader pricing and it just ain’t worth it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Shirley Healy
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this app?
>
>
>
> Hmmm never heard of voice dream scanner, I have voice dream reader though,
> will now have to buy voice dream scanner.
>
> shirley
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Richard Turner 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:39 PM
>
> Subject: RE: Has anyone tried this app?
>
>
>
> After using Voice Dream Scanner, I’m personally not that interested in such
> an expensive app.
>
> If someone did a side by side comparison, that would be interesting.
>
> Voice Dream Scanner does all the recognition on the device too, so no
> internet needed, and it is only a one time cost of $5.99.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Has anyone tried this app?
>
>
>
> Read about this on AppleVis rather expensive but does a good job of OCR
>
>
>
> https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/supersense-ai/id1484547836
> 
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Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Strangely enough, when I play anything with either my hK Onyx four and my 
Beoplay A1 Voiceover comes through my iPhone’s speaker while music comes 
through the Bluetooth speaker.  However, my two Anker speakers all output and 
Voiceover comes through the speaker.

There is a thread on AppleVis about it.  It appears that with some speakers 
behaviour varies.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 18 Jul 2020, at 15:36, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m not sure if Jonathan was talking about this particular speaker, but with 
> IOS 13 on my iPhone 11, I can send the audio of the media I’m streaming over 
> to my JVL Charge 2 while VoiceOver still comes out of my iPhone.
>  
> --
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> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected
>  
> He was probably going through a mixer.  He is a DJ and a professional 
> podcaster with a sound studio.
>  
> I would not doubt that with the right setup you could do that, but I’m pretty 
> sure he uses a not inexpensive mixer.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
> Scott Carlson
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected
>  
> Strange—I feel like on Jonathan Mosen's podcast he mentioned this was already 
> possible, but perhaps not.
>  
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  It's a great speaker for its size.
> But no I was saying that I don't think you will get the VoiceOver voice over 
> the phone even on an external speaker.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" 
> option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method 
> be in iOS 14?
>  
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  There will be an easier way in iOS 14.
> Right now, I don't think that works.
> I have that same speaker.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> 
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
> 
> I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option 
> on the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, 
> the option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps 
> it just doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.
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RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[Richard Turner]

Yes, apparently now that I am more alert, to keep the VoiceOver voice on the 
phone, you need certain speakers.
I misunderstood the original question.
I thought you were trying to have it so the person on the other end of the 
phone call could hear VoiceOver…
But, hearing voiceOVer on the phone while other sound is going through the 
speaker does not work on that speaker for sure.
It works when I use Airplay with my stereo.
At least some times.
I know some speakers just work that way, like the one Christopher is using.

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

I’m not sure if Jonathan was talking about this particular speaker, but with 
IOS 13 on my iPhone 11, I can send the audio of the media I’m streaming over to 
my JVL Charge 2 while VoiceOver still comes out of my iPhone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

He was probably going through a mixer.  He is a DJ and a professional podcaster 
with a sound studio.

I would not doubt that with the right setup you could do that, but I’m pretty 
sure he uses a not inexpensive mixer.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of K. 
Scott Carlson
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

Strange—I feel like on Jonathan Mosen's podcast he mentioned this was already 
possible, but perhaps not.

On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It's a great speaker for its size.
But no I was saying that I don't think you will get the VoiceOver voice over 
the phone even on an external speaker.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" 
option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method be 
in iOS 14?

On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 There will be an easier way in iOS 14.
Right now, I don't think that works.
I have that same speaker.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option on 
the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, the 
option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps it just 
doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.

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RE: IOS 13.6 question

[chaltain]

Oops, you’re right, I meant the button on the right side of my phone. Sorry 
about that! I was actually trying to eliminate confusion since I’m never sure 
if that’s called the power button or what.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question

 

Christopher,

 

I assume you meant pressing the larger power/unlock button on the right side of 
your iPhone 11 gives you the time. I believe the volume up and down buttons are 
still on the left side provided the phone is screen up with the lightning port 
at the bottom and I don't think pressing one of those gives the time.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
chalt...@gmail.com   mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:29:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: IOS 13.6 question 

 

When I hit the button on the left side of my iPhone 11 running 13.6, I still 
hear the time, at least when the phone is locked. Like someone else suggested 
though, I also placed the clock app in the upper left hand corner of my home 
screen, so it's easy to get the time when unlocking my phone and hitting the 
home button to go to my home screen.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
> Of Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question
> 
> When I ran ios 12 on my ipad mini, I would hear the time when pressing the
> power or home button.  After updating to ios 13, that is no longer the case.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MamaPeach
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question
> 
> That doesn't make sense, I am running 13.5.1 and I still hear the time when I 
> use
> the power button or the home button to unlock my phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Matzura
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question
> 
> In previous version, VoiceOver would speak the time. Since somewhere in the
> iOS 12 cycle, that has ceased to be. It's now hit or miss as to whether VO 
> will or
> won't say anything.
> 
> 
> On 7/17/2020 9:04 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> > I don't know what you are talking about.  My iPhone has never said
> > anything when I press the power button to unlock it.  I didn't even
> > know that you could do that.  If my iPhone is locked and I hit the
> > power button, I hear a little noise that is it.
> >
> > On 7/17/20, Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com> > 
> > wrote:
> >> I just bought a ipad mini5.  It was running ios 13.4.1.  I updated it
> >> to ios 13.6.  When I press the power button to unlock the screen,
> >> voiceover says nothing?  Is this a known issue?
> >
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Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm the one who told Alan about the $25 prepaid plan.  I'm also on
that plan.  I wouldn't have known about the new and better plan if I
hadn't checked the Verizon disability number to see what new plans
they had.  Being a prepaid member of Verizon is awesome.

On 7/18/20, kitty hevener  wrote:
> Alan, thanks for pricing info re verizon.  Like you, I use their prepaid
> plans with autopay.  I thought I had a good deal with 6 gb data and
> unlimited calling and texting for around $35.00.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: shopping for mobile plans
>
>
>
> I personally like the Verizon prepaid plans. They have currently lowered the
> price of these plans and you can get 5GB of data with unlimited talk and
> texting for $30 a month. If you set your account up with autopay, you get an
> additional discount of $5 per month bringing the total to $25 per month.
> They have recently introduced a loyalty discount if you have a prepaid plan
> which costs $40 or more per month. With this loyalty discount, your price is
> reduced an additional $5 per month after you've submitted three payments and
> an additional $5 per month for a total loyalty discount of $10 per month
> after nine payments. Their 15GB prepaid plan has recently been reduced to
> $40 per month so with the loyalty discount in full effect along with the
> autopay discount, you can get 15GB of data with unlimited talk and text for
> $25 per month.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans
>
>
>
> I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for pre-pay
> service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 or so,
> it is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of data even  though the
> rep said it would be  500 MB.
>
> I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer one
> plan and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make sure you
> can live with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only pay
> $25 monthly for unlimited calls, text, data and hotspot. It uses the Verizon
> network.
>
> Jeff
>
> At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:
>
> Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find
> out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE
> 2020 and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out
> T-Mobile’s site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with
> Verizon’s site. It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling
> plans.   Am I missing something?  For those who have shopped around, what is
> your method?  I’m inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers,
> but haven’t had the time.
>
> Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least
> easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet
> service, which I do not.
>
>
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Re: IOS 13.6 question

[Alan Lemly]

Christopher,

I assume you meant pressing the larger power/unlock button on the right side of 
your iPhone 11 gives you the time. I believe the volume up and down buttons are 
still on the left side provided the phone is screen up with the lightning port 
at the bottom and I don't think pressing one of those gives the time.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: IOS 13.6 question

When I hit the button on the left side of my iPhone 11 running 13.6, I still 
hear the time, at least when the phone is locked. Like someone else suggested 
though, I also placed the clock app in the upper left hand corner of my home 
screen, so it's easy to get the time when unlocking my phone and hitting the 
home button to go to my home screen.

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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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> When I ran ios 12 on my ipad mini, I would hear the time when pressing the
> power or home button.  After updating to ios 13, that is no longer the case.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MamaPeach
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> That doesn't make sense, I am running 13.5.1 and I still hear the time when I 
> use
> the power button or the home button to unlock my phone.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> In previous version, VoiceOver would speak the time. Since somewhere in the
> iOS 12 cycle, that has ceased to be. It's now hit or miss as to whether VO 
> will or
> won't say anything.
>
>
> On 7/17/2020 9:04 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> > I don't know what you are talking about.  My iPhone has never said
> > anything when I press the power button to unlock it.  I didn't even
> > know that you could do that.  If my iPhone is locked and I hit the
> > power button, I hear a little noise that is it.
> >
> > On 7/17/20, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> >> I just bought a ipad mini5.  It was running ios 13.4.1.  I updated it
> >> to ios 13.6.  When I press the power button to unlock the screen,
> >> voiceover says nothing?  Is this a known issue?
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RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[chaltain]

I’m not sure if Jonathan was talking about this particular speaker, but with 
IOS 13 on my iPhone 11, I can send the audio of the media I’m streaming over to 
my JVL Charge 2 while VoiceOver still comes out of my iPhone.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

 

He was probably going through a mixer.  He is a DJ and a professional podcaster 
with a sound studio.

 

I would not doubt that with the right setup you could do that, but I’m pretty 
sure he uses a not inexpensive mixer.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of K. 
Scott Carlson
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

 

Strange—I feel like on Jonathan Mosen's podcast he mentioned this was already 
possible, but perhaps not.

 

On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 It's a great speaker for its size. 

But no I was saying that I don't think you will get the VoiceOver voice over 
the phone even on an external speaker.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, K. Scott Carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" 
option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method be 
in iOS 14?

 

On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 There will be an easier way in iOS 14. 

Right now, I don't think that works.

I have that same speaker.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option on 
the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, the 
option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps it just 
doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.

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RE: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[Richard Turner]

He was probably going through a mixer.  He is a DJ and a professional podcaster 
with a sound studio.

I would not doubt that with the right setup you could do that, but I’m pretty 
sure he uses a not inexpensive mixer.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. Scott 
Carlson
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

Strange—I feel like on Jonathan Mosen's podcast he mentioned this was already 
possible, but perhaps not.


On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It's a great speaker for its size.
But no I was saying that I don't think you will get the VoiceOver voice over 
the phone even on an external speaker.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" 
option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method be 
in iOS 14?


On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 There will be an easier way in iOS 14.
Right now, I don't think that works.
I have that same speaker.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option on 
the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, the 
option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps it just 
doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.

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RE: one new bug in ios13.6

[Richard Turner]

It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right 
with one finger.
It means VoiceOver cannot go any further.

You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field.

But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field 
and had typed a wrong letter.  When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but 
that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing.
Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6

Davy,

I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!

 Can you explain this issue better,

-Original Message-
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Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: one new bug in ios13.6

Hi folks

I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug 
has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and 
over on accessibility groups on facebook.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi Davy,

I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
braille issue you speak of.

I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe 
that wasin a later report .



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Cuppens
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

Hi folks

I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report 
this issue.

When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not 
a pleasant thing.

When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual 
keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone 
XR 64 GB.

The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been 
confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad 
as well as a phone.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: one new bug in ios13.6

[chaltain]

If you go into Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Verbosity do you have deleting 
text set to play sound? This will result in hearing a ping when you delete text.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6
> 
> Davy,
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?!
> 
>  Can you explain this issue better,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: one new bug in ios13.6
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug
> has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and
> over on accessibility groups on facebook.
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?
> 
> Hi Davy,
> 
> I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the 
> braille
> issue you speak of.
> 
> I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of 
> folks
> out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that
> wasin a later report .
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report
> this issue.
> 
> When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is 
> not
> a pleasant thing.
> 
> When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the 
> virtual
> keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my
> iphone XR 64 GB.
> 
> The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has
> been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups.
> 
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?
> 
> No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my 
> iPad as
> well as a phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?
> 
> hi,
> Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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RE: How do I make a voice recording for a message?

[Carolyn]

That's the way it works on WhatsApp, so that makes sense. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:05 PM
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Subject: Re: How do I make a voice recording for a message?

I couldn't get it to work either, then my wife looked it up. To record an audio 
text message you have to hold the record button while recording. To do this 
with VoiceOver, do the pass-through gesture; otherwise known as double tap and 
hold and do not lift your finger until you are done recording. 
You will find that the record button becomes a send button when you lift your 
finger after the recording.
Thanks for asking, as I did not know how to do this either.






Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Gordon  wrote:



How and where are you wanting to record your voice message? Is it an 
iMessage or some where else?

On 7/17/2020 8:35 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:


I am trying to record a message.  I have double-tapped on 
record' button", and magic-tapped.  Each time I get a start and a stop sound, 
but no recording.  what is the magic thing to do?





thanks,






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RE: shopping for mobile plans

[kitty hevener]

Alan, thanks for pricing info re verizon.  Like you, I use their prepaid plans 
with autopay.  I thought I had a good deal with 6 gb data and unlimited calling 
and texting for around $35.00.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: shopping for mobile plans

 

I personally like the Verizon prepaid plans. They have currently lowered the 
price of these plans and you can get 5GB of data with unlimited talk and 
texting for $30 a month. If you set your account up with autopay, you get an 
additional discount of $5 per month bringing the total to $25 per month. They 
have recently introduced a loyalty discount if you have a prepaid plan which 
costs $40 or more per month. With this loyalty discount, your price is reduced 
an additional $5 per month after you've submitted three payments and an 
additional $5 per month for a total loyalty discount of $10 per month after 
nine payments. Their 15GB prepaid plan has recently been reduced to $40 per 
month so with the loyalty discount in full effect along with the autopay 
discount, you can get 15GB of data with unlimited talk and text for $25 per 
month.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for pre-pay 
service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 or so, it 
is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of data even  though the rep 
said it would be  500 MB.

I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer one plan 
and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make sure you can live 
with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only pay $25 monthly 
for unlimited calls, text, data and hotspot. It uses the Verizon network.

Jeff

At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven’t had the 
time.  
 
Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not. 
 
 
 
 

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Time - RE: IOS 13.6 question

[Karen Poulakos]

I have an older SE, which I purchased last year.  Before doing the latest 
update,it was not reading the time when I press the home button.  Since I 
updated this morning, it is now telling me the time when the Home button is 
pressed to unlock the screen.

Karen P

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I guess it depends on what phone you have and what IOS. I have the 6S+ with 
IOS 13.5.1 as well and I can use the power button and the home button and 
both tell the time when they are used.

-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question

I still have the iPhone 6S plus. I locked my screen and touched the power 
button two times today to see if it would say the time and it did both 
times.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Debby  wrote:
>
> ?Hi,
>
> Sometime ago I gave up on hearing the time when pushing either the power 
> or home buttons. So I put the clock app on the top right hand corner of my 
> home screen above some scanning apps. So if I want the time from my iPhone 
> it is easy to find. Your mileage may vary!
>
> Take care and have a good weekend!
>
> Debby
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> On 10's or 11's, there is no HOME button any more.
>
>
>> On 7/17/2020 10:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Welcome to newer iOS.
>> If you press it maybe 3 times, you will hear the time.
>> Power, never, ever, has "unlocked" the screen.
>> It might wake it up momentarily, but it is the home button that actually 
>> unlocks it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Siri Not Setting Alarms

[Joy Cyr]

For me it really has nothing to do with the update.  I haven't updated to 13.6 
yet, and the first time it happened was before 13.5.  But as mentioned it is 
intermittent!  I can set alarms and have them go off without a problem for a 
week or more, then one doesn't.  The intermittency is why I decided to ask on 
list rather than going straight to Apple Support.
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