RE: printers that work with the I phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah ricard Richard,

Yeah I have a brother device also,

Great, I just wish I could setup the wifi side of it

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: printers that work with the I phone

We have a Brother all in one, that at least the printer portion works great, 
but I am not sure I could use the fax or scanner/copier function.
My sighted wife bought it for the copy/scanner function, and was happy to 
discover the printing works perfectly with the iPhone/iPad without the need for 
an app.
But, it was about $180.
There are other Brother laser-jets that work fine with VoiceOver.
 Just make sure it says it supports AirPrint.




Richard
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


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I’m not sure about especially well, but you want a printer that supports 
AirPring.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of martin
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:44 PM
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Subject: printers that work with the I phone

Hello: are there any printers that work specially well with the I phone and 
voiceover? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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RE: Silencing Ring Tone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah sure would,
As would the mute toggle on the side.

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But that would mute all alert sounds as well.
Thanks for the input.

Rick
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Subject: Re: Silencing Ring Tone


Yes it's possible, set sounds to vibrate when silent in sound settings; then 
toggle the mute switch to the on position;
Regards,
Eli

No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a 
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> On 28 Jul 2020, at 5:39 AM, Richard  wrote:
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> Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration 
> pattern
> on a iPhone 7Plus?
> I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
> Running the latest build of IOS 13.
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RE: Exercise bikes

[Simon A Fogarty]

I can't give you exact names / models but yes there are now quite a few 
products out there that are iPhone / IOs or android compatible 

Your best bet would be to find a store or stockest of exercise equipment and go 
in to have an actual look at the products to find one that suited you both in 
what you are doing and how it feels when you are on it working out.

The last thing you want to do is purchase a product on line and find it wont 
feel good for you while your on it.

Comfort during exercise is important especially when cycling, 
You don't want to get a sore butt.
I personally use my road bike on a cycle erg that the back wheel should sit and 
it helps set the resistance and still allows for using the gearing on the bike.

Good luck I hope you find something.

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Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Exercise bikes

Hello I am searching for an exercise bike and I was wondering if anyone knows 
if a model is compatible with the iPhone. I have found several bikes and some 
of them are Bluetooth capable but I have no idea if they would work. Please let 
me know.
Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Silencing Ring Tone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah there is the mute toggle on the side of the phone above the volume keys 
and also under sounds / haptic feedback that allows you to have a vibration 
even if the tone is not sounding.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Silencing Ring Tone

Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration pattern on a 
iPhone 7Plus?
I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
Running the latest build of IOS 13.

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RE: The screen recognition feature: was Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Simon A Fogarty]

So is that going to work on the sE 2020 and 11 range or will it be limited to 
the se 2020  and upcoming releases later in the year?

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Subject: The screen recognition feature: was Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

The new feature basically will perform a scan for text on the screen, making 
previously inaccessible apps hopefully accessible. It will require the latest 
chips or  processors.
Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is the screen recognition? 

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Matthew Bullis
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:59 PM
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Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


 

The direct transfer is excellent.

Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.

I did it but didn’t write down the steps.

If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.

Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.

But, definitely back up your current phone.





Richard

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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today



Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.



Fred Olver

   - Original Message - 

   From: Dan   

   To: 'cwc' via VIPhone   

   Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM

   Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today



   I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.



   Any thoughts would be appreciated.



   Thanks.





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RE: The screen recognition feature: was Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Simon A Fogarty]

Cheers answers my question.

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Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 6:37 AM
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Works with my X R, so it’ll definitely work with the SE2.
Devin Prater
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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> The new feature basically will perform a scan for text on the screen, making 
> previously inaccessible apps hopefully accessible. It will require the latest 
> chips or  processors.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What is the screen recognition? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today
> 
> Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
> feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
> know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
> certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> The direct transfer is excellent.
> 
> Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.
> 
> I did it but didn’t write down the steps.
> 
> If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.
> 
> Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
> through it.
> 
> But, definitely back up your current phone.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
> Olver
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today
> 
> 
> 
> Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer 
> all of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but 
> call apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this 
> accomplished. It is a farely pain-free process.
> 
> 
> 
> Fred Olver
> 
>   - Original Message - 
> 
>   From: Dan   
> 
>   To: 'cwc' via VIPhone   
> 
>   Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
> 
>   Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today
> 
> 
> 
>   I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of 
> my current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE. 
>  I suspect not but thought I should ask.
> 
> 
> 
>   Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
>   Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: printers that work with the I phone

[Richard Turner]

We have a Brother all in one, that at least the printer portion works great, 
but I am not sure I could use the fax or scanner/copier function.
My sighted wife bought it for the copy/scanner function, and was happy to 
discover the printing works perfectly with the iPhone/iPad without the need for 
an app.
But, it was about $180.
There are other Brother laser-jets that work fine with VoiceOver.
 Just make sure it says it supports AirPrint.




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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:49 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:


I’m not sure about especially well, but you want a printer that supports 
AirPring.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of martin
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:44 PM
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Subject: printers that work with the I phone

Hello: are there any printers that work specially well with the I phone and 
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Thank you.
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RE: printers that work with the I phone

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I’m not sure about especially well, but you want a printer that supports 
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Hello: are there any printers that work specially well with the I phone and 
voiceover? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: Silencing Ring Tone

[Richard]

But that would mute all alert sounds as well.
Thanks for the input.

Rick
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Subject: Re: Silencing Ring Tone


Yes it's possible, set sounds to vibrate when silent in sound settings; then 
toggle the mute switch to the on position;
Regards,
Eli

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> On 28 Jul 2020, at 5:39 AM, Richard  wrote:
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> Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration 
> pattern
> on a iPhone 7Plus?
> I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
> Running the latest build of IOS 13.
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Re: Silencing Ring Tone

[Richard]

Thanks Richard,
That one didn't occur to me!

Rick
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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Silencing Ring Tone


Well, one way to do this is to create a custom ringtone that is silent.
Assign that one to the ringtone, and either leave the vibration the same, or 
do a different vibration pattern; they have a few to choose from.




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Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration pattern
on a iPhone 7Plus?
I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
Running the latest build of IOS 13.

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RE: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes you can,

As part of the setup of the new phone you should either be able to setup using 
the migration tool at the start or durin the setup
You will be prompted to setup as a new device or from an itunes / cloud backup.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 3:11 AM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today


I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Thanks.





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RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

Are they play 1 or sonos 1 devices?

Only the sonos 1 or the latest of the sonos speakers have alexa built in,

So the play 1 and play 3& 5 don’t have alexa built in.

I did wonder if the amazon echo devices would allow you to use the sonos play 
devices by alexa, but I’ve never been able to get it to work or figure it out.

So if your smaller speakers are sonos 1 then alexa will work for you.
Play 3 I don’t believe will.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

Hello Simon
Thanks. I was looking for a Kindle book on Amazon site and came across a link 
for my connections. Then there was an option to connect Sonos and it worked, so 
I am not sure why it did not work via the app on my iPhone. I still have a 
strange issue. My Sonos One and two Sonos Play3 speakers are setup in the same 
group so that when streaming from my iPhone all will play. But the moment I ask 
Alexa to play music only the Play One plays. When I then look at the Room 
Settings on my PC or in the iPhone Sonos app the Play3 speakers are unselected. 
I can not understand why this happens when I play via Alexa.
Regards
Fanus


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Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

No it shouldn’t be as the sonos 1 with alexa works here in nz


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:50 PM
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Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

Hello Sieghard
I agree about the Sonos speakers but is the Alexa option country specific 
because when I try to set the Echo Dot to work with Sonos One I get an error 
saying it could not connect to the server.
Regards
Fanus


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Then I think you may not have heard a Sonos system yet and while there a few 
limitations, you can set up a Sonos One or some of th eother newer speakers 
either as an Alexa or Google Home speaker. One limitation is that you can't use 
features like  Drop-In which you can do between actual Echo speakers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

Nothing compares to the actual audio produced by the Homepod, nothing.
Except maybe for the Amazon Studio Speaker.
The Amazon devices certainly have a few more skills, no doubt about it, but 
Homepod sounds fantastic, far better than most Amazon devices.
Just an opinion.
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple's equivalent of the echo

hi, Alan, I totally agree with you. The echo has a tremendous sound. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Janet,

I thought Apple's digital assistant is Siri. I would strongly recommend you 
stick with the Amazon Echo rather than investing in a Home Pod running Siri. 
All of these devices and systems have issues from time to time but my opinion 
is that the Amazon Echo is the best of the lot.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Janet 
Bell mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:53:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: apple's equivalent of the echo

please would someone tell me whether apple’s equivalent of the echo is any good 
as they are having trouble with the echo and wonder whether it is worth 
changing.  Janet
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printers that work with the I phone

[martin]

Hello: are there any printers that work specially well with the I phone and
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Exercise bikes

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

Hello I am searching for an exercise bike and I was wondering if anyone knows 
if a model is compatible with the iPhone. I have found several bikes and some 
of them are Bluetooth capable but I have no idea if they would work. Please let 
me know.
Thank you

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Drafts5 missing keystrokes for links, and lists?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Very good day to the list
Any of you guys use Drafts5, so as to enlightning me on what are the keystrokes 
for Inserting a Link, and creating lists? On Drafts4, these were Command+l to 
Insert a link, but now Command+l brings up some kind of a Search facility. I 
can’t find any info on these.
thanks for any info you guys might have on the matter.

Gera
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RE: Silencing Ring Tone

[Richard Turner]

However, he said he only wanted to do this for the ringtone, but if the mute 
switch is on, all tones are silenced including text messages, email, calendar 
alerts, reminder alerts.



Richard
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Yes it's possible, set sounds to vibrate when silent in sound settings; then 
toggle the mute switch to the on position; Regards, Eli

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> Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration 
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> I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
> Running the latest build of IOS 13.
> 
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Re: Silencing Ring Tone

[CoolHappenings]

Yes it's possible, set sounds to vibrate when silent in sound settings; then 
toggle the mute switch to the on position; 
Regards,
Eli

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> on a iPhone 7Plus?
> I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
> Running the latest build of IOS 13.
> 
> Rick 
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Re: Silencing Ring Tone

[Richard Turner]

Well, one way to do this is to create a custom ringtone that is silent.
Assign that one to the ringtone, and either leave the vibration the same, or do 
a different vibration pattern; they have a few to choose from.




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On Jul 27, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Richard  wrote:

Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration pattern
on a iPhone 7Plus?
I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
Running the latest build of IOS 13.

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Re: Zoom F6Hi folks, hi folks, Do any of you know of a blind users group for the zoom F6? There is an iPhone app that goes with it and I’d like to know more about it. I need help. Thanks

[Terry Nord]

Hey Gerry,
Would it be OK if we talk on the phone? Then we can at least just have a 
conversation rather than having to email back-and-forth. My phone number is, 
314-802-8298. If you’d rather I call you just let me know. Thanks

You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t 
make you fat.
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On Jul 27, 2020, at 5:39 AM, jerry.berr...@gmail.com wrote:


I recently got an F6, and I got some good answers from Reapers without Peepers, 
(RWP).
I don’t know of any group specifically for the F6, but I’d be glad to answer 
any questions I know the answers to.
 
 
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Subject: Zoom F6Hi folks, hi folks, Do any of you know of a blind users group 
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more about it. I need help. Thanks
 
 

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On Jul 26, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
 wrote:

Is their a way to reverse the left and right rocker buttons either on the 
display, or in the iPhone settings?
 

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Silencing Ring Tone

[Richard]

Is there a way to silence the ring tone only, and have a vibration pattern 
on a iPhone 7Plus?
I would like to do this for the telephone ring only, and not other alerts.
Running the latest build of IOS 13.

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RE: Turn Off Notification of Optimize Battery Life

[Richard Turner]

It is not in the iOS 14 public beta 3.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Turn Off Notification of Optimize Battery Life

I'm thinking this was a feature of iOS 14 which was mentioned at WWDC a month 
ago, and it is not in the current version.

Wayne

On 7/26/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> You could call Apple accessibility and double check however.
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Re: Turn Off Notification of Optimize Battery Life

[Wayne Merritt]

I'm thinking this was a feature of iOS 14 which was mentioned at WWDC
a month ago, and it is not in the current version.

Wayne

On 7/26/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I'm pretty sure you're not finding a setting because there isn't one.
> You could call Apple accessibility and double check however.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Rob Armstrong 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I upgraded from iOS 12.4.1 to 13.6 a couple of days ago.  I want to keep the
> Optimize Battery Life setting turned on, but I want to turn off the
> notification that indicates when the battery will be at full charge.  I
> cannot find a setting for this notification.  Help!
>
> Rob
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Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Gerardo Corripio]

If possible, I'd recommend doing it from phone to phone transfer (or Quick 
Start), then via iCloud. I speak from exferience having done this process about 
a month ago, when going from a 1st Generation SE, to this 2nd Genouation SE.
What left me amazed is that through the Quick Start,vs the iCloud as I did 
before when switching to newer mhones from previous ones, is that this time 
around,everything (including passwords, and even music that on the previous 
phone was transfered through iTunes), everything all transfered to this new SE 
without a hitch! Whereas before via iCloud I needed to log-in to almost all of 
my streaming and cloud services, with the Quick Start option during setup, I 
only needed to log-in to one or 2 at the most! Everything else was taken care 
of via the transfer.
Gd£Good luck in your new toy! I'm sure you'll love the better sound, and speed.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 jul 2020, a la(s) 12:24 p.m., Dave  escribió:
> 
> 
> You can also do it from an iCloud back-up.
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 4:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: getting a new SE 2020 today
>  
> The direct transfer is excellent.
> Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.
> I did it but didn’t write down the steps.
> If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.
> Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
> through it.
> But, definitely back up your current phone.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
> Olver
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today
>  
> Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer 
> all of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but 
> call apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this 
> accomplished. It is a farely pain-free process.
>  
> Fred Olver
> - Original Message -
> From: Dan
> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
> Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today
>  
> I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
> current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
> suspect not but thought I should ask.
> 
>  
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: The screen recognition feature: was Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Devin Prater]

Works with my X R, so it’ll definitely work with the SE2.
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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> The new feature basically will perform a scan for text on the screen, making 
> previously inaccessible apps hopefully accessible. It will require the latest 
> chips or  processors.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What is the screen recognition? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today
> 
> Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
> feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
> know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
> certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> The direct transfer is excellent.
> 
> Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.
> 
> I did it but didn’t write down the steps.
> 
> If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.
> 
> Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
> through it.
> 
> But, definitely back up your current phone.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
> Olver
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today
> 
> 
> 
> Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer 
> all of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but 
> call apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this 
> accomplished. It is a farely pain-free process.
> 
> 
> 
> Fred Olver
> 
>   - Original Message - 
> 
>   From: Dan   
> 
>   To: 'cwc' via VIPhone   
> 
>   Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
> 
>   Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today
> 
> 
> 
>   I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of 
> my current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE. 
>  I suspect not but thought I should ask.
> 
> 
> 
>   Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
>   Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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The screen recognition feature: was Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Matthew Bullis]

The new feature basically will perform a scan for text on the screen, making 
previously inaccessible apps hopefully accessible. It will require the latest 
chips or  processors.
Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is the screen recognition? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Bullis
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


 

The direct transfer is excellent.

Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.

I did it but didn’t write down the steps.

If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.

Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.

But, definitely back up your current phone.





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today



Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.



Fred Olver

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   From: Dan   

   To: 'cwc' via VIPhone   

   Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM

   Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today



   I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.



   Any thoughts would be appreciated.



   Thanks.





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Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Alan Lemly]

Richard, thanks for the referral. I am reposting the below in case anyone is
interested.

 

Alan

 

Hi List,

 

I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a new
iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved as I only
do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 2020 directly
from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since I have a prepaid
Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully when ordering.
The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have too much
information than not enough. Any settings provided came from my iPhone 8
running iOS 13.4.1.

 

   1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the lightning
cable, and did an encrypted backup.

   2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and executing
Backup now.

   3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored iPhone,
I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I wanted to
re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current reading
position in those books.

   4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen
appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and I
pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. Although I was
hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start talking until a number
of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home button 3 times again because I
wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on. This turned Voiceover off and I had
to press the home button 3 times again to turn it back on and I heard
Voiceover say hello and when I swiped once, Voiceover said press home to
open.

   5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list of
language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.

   6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the first in
the list.

   7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The older
iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. There was a
button at the end to Set up manually.

   8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position some
pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually button
instead.

   9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old iPhone. My
new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old iPhone. I had to
double tap each number on the on screen number pad on my new iPhone since
touch typing was not turned on.

10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.

11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said Adjust
your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your grip. I double
tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.

12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I got
the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed the
Continue button at the bottom of that screen.

13.The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation
said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish downloading
it later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from iPhone, Download from
iCloud, or other options. The Transfer from iPhone said the time to transfer
was about 1 hour. The download from iCloud said I could start using my
iPhone in about 15 minutes and my data would download later over wifi. I
executed the Transfer from iPhone button.

14.I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone
where I double tapped an Agree button in the bottom right corner.

15.I was taken to a Settings from other iPhone heading screen where
it listed some settings about allowing Siri to use voice input, contacts,
etc. and allowing maps to use my location. I executed the Continue button at
the bottom of this screen without customizing any settings.

16.I was taken to a Keep your iPhone up to date heading screen which
was basically a commercial for updating iOS automatically. At the bottom of
this screen was a Continue button followed by an Install updates manually
button. I chose the Install updates manually button.

17.I was then taken to a screen to Add cards to Apple Pay. Instead
of executing the Continue button, I chose to S

RE: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Richard Turner]

Dot 7+d doesn’t work with the braille edge and iOS 13.6.
Nor with the Orbit Reader 20 and the iOS beta of iOS 14.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:32 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

I would think dot 7 with D would work, since that's a capital d.


On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It does not work on the Brialle Edge.
I just checked and the key that acts as the shift on a computer, is not a shift 
key for Apple.
So one has to stick with the three keystrokes.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

Well, I am assuming this is an apple Dash oriented command. So, if another 
braille display has a shift key, I’m guessing this would work.

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:32:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

Yes, that is unique I believe to the Focus displays.
But, there are other displays with a shift key, like the braille edge and 
QBraille that might work.
But, it will only work on a display with a shift key.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I can only reference the focus on this one. On the focus, there are two 
shift keys, a left shift and ride shift key. So you hold down the right shift 
key and press a D at the same time.

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cris 
Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?
Sent from my iPhone



On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard and Interested Others,
I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, then 
right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!
Best Regards,

Les
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RE: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Carolyn]

What is the screen recognition? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Bullis
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


 

The direct transfer is excellent.

Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.

I did it but didn’t write down the steps.

If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.

Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.

But, definitely back up your current phone.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

 

Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Dan   

To: 'cwc' via VIPhone   

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM

Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today

 

I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup 
of my current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new 
SE.  I suspect not but thought I should ask.

 

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Anna Dresner]

I would think dot 7 with D would work, since that's a capital d.

> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It does not work on the Brialle Edge.
> I just checked and the key that acts as the shift on a computer, is not a 
> shift key for Apple.
> So one has to stick with the three keystrokes.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display
>  
> Well, I am assuming this is an apple Dash oriented command. So, if another 
> braille display has a shift key, I’m guessing this would work.
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
> Richard Turner  >
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:32:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display
>  
> Yes, that is unique I believe to the Focus displays.
> But, there are other displays with a shift key, like the braille edge and 
> QBraille that might work.
> But, it will only work on a display with a shift key.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Les Kriegler  > wrote:
> 
>  
> Well, I can only reference the focus on this one. On the focus, there are two 
> shift keys, a left shift and ride shift key. So you hold down the right shift 
> key and press a D at the same time.
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
> Cris Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display
>  
> How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler  > wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Richard and Interested Others,
> I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
> sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
> with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, 
> then right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!
> Best Regards,
>  
> Les
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Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Dave]

You can also do it from an iCloud back-up.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: getting a new SE 2020 today

The direct transfer is excellent.

Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.

I did it but didn’t write down the steps.

If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.

Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.

But, definitely back up your current phone.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

 

Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.

 

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 

  From: Dan 

  To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 

  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM

  Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today

   

  I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.

   

  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

   

  Thanks.

   

   

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Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Richard Turner]

Yes.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 27, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:


Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


The direct transfer is excellent.
Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.
I did it but didn’t write down the steps.
If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.
Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.
But, definitely back up your current phone.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Dan
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today


I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Thanks.





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Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Matthew Bullis]

Does anyone know whether the new SE model will support the screen recognition 
feature in the upcoming IOS14? I realize it may be too early to tell, but I 
know it will be only available on tens and up. Maybe the SE doesn't have a 
certain chip in it? Thanks, Matthew


On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


The direct transfer is excellent.
Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.
I did it but didn’t write down the steps.
If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.
Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.
But, definitely back up your current phone.
 
 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today
 
Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.
 
Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Dan
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today
 
I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.

 

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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RE: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Richard Turner]

The direct transfer is excellent.
Alan Lemley had posted his steps a couple of times on how to do this.
I did it but didn’t write down the steps.
If you can find Alan’s post in the archives, it is worth reading.
Or, as Fred said, call Apple Accessibility and I suspect they can walk you 
through it.
But, definitely back up your current phone.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Dan
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today


I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Thanks.





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Re: getting a new SE 2020 today

[Fred Olver]

Dan, you can and should back-up your six and then you can directly transfer all 
of your info from the six to the SE. Can't remember how it is done, but call 
apple Accessability and they can instruct you on how to get this accomplished. 
It is a farely pain-free process.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan 
  To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:10 AM
  Subject: getting a new SE 2020 today


  I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do a backup of my 
current Six and then restore the apps and data from the Six to the new SE.  I 
suspect not but thought I should ask.




  Any thoughts would be appreciated.




  Thanks.







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getting a new SE 2020 today

[Dan]

  
  
I am getting one of these.  I am wondering though if I can do
a backup of my current Six and then restore the apps and data
from the Six to the new SE.  I suspect not but thought I should
ask.

  
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

  
Thanks.

  


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RE: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Richard Turner]

It does not work on the Brialle Edge.
I just checked and the key that acts as the shift on a computer, is not a shift 
key for Apple.
So one has to stick with the three keystrokes.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

Well, I am assuming this is an apple Dash oriented command. So, if another 
braille display has a shift key, I’m guessing this would work.

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:32:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

Yes, that is unique I believe to the Focus displays.
But, there are other displays with a shift key, like the braille edge and 
QBraille that might work.
But, it will only work on a display with a shift key.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I can only reference the focus on this one. On the focus, there are two 
shift keys, a left shift and ride shift key. So you hold down the right shift 
key and press a D at the same time.

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cris 
Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Richard and Interested Others,

I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, then 
right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!

Best Regards,



Les
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Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Les Kriegler]

Well, I am assuming this is an apple Dash oriented command. So, if another 
braille display has a shift key, I’m guessing this would work.

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:32:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

Yes, that is unique I believe to the Focus displays.
But, there are other displays with a shift key, like the braille edge and 
QBraille that might work.
But, it will only work on a display with a shift key.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Well, I can only reference the focus on this one. On the focus, there are two 
shift keys, a left shift and ride shift key. So you hold down the right shift 
key and press a D at the same time.

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cris Ali 

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:



Hi Richard and Interested Others,

I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, then 
right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!

Best Regards,



Les

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Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Richard Turner]

Yes, that is unique I believe to the Focus displays.
But, there are other displays with a shift key, like the braille edge and 
QBraille that might work.
But, it will only work on a display with a shift key.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Well, I can only reference the focus on this one. On the focus, there are two 
shift keys, a left shift and ride shift key. So you hold down the right shift 
key and press a D at the same time.

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cris Ali 

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:



Hi Richard and Interested Others,

I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, then 
right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!

Best Regards,



Les

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Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Les Kriegler]

Well, I can only reference the focus on this one. On the focus, there are two 
shift keys, a left shift and ride shift key. So you hold down the right shift 
key and press a D at the same time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cris Ali 

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:



Hi Richard and Interested Others,

I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, then 
right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!

Best Regards,



Les

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Re: Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Cris Ali]

How do you Do a right shift d on a braille keyboard?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Hi Richard and Interested Others,
I’m not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I’m 
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail 
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command, then 
right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!
Best Regards,

Les

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Sending Mail with a Braille Display

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard and Interested Others,

I'm not certain my replies to messages are making it to the list, so I'm
sending a new message. I learned of a two keystroke option for sending mail
with a braille display in the Mail app. It is Dots 1 7 Chord for Command,
then right shift-d. I tried it and it works great!

Best Regards,

 

Les

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RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

Thanks. I was looking for a Kindle book on Amazon site and came across a link 
for my connections. Then there was an option to connect Sonos and it worked, so 
I am not sure why it did not work via the app on my iPhone. I still have a 
strange issue. My Sonos One and two Sonos Play3 speakers are setup in the same 
group so that when streaming from my iPhone all will play. But the moment I ask 
Alexa to play music only the Play One plays. When I then look at the Room 
Settings on my PC or in the iPhone Sonos app the Play3 speakers are unselected. 
I can not understand why this happens when I play via Alexa.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

No it shouldn’t be as the sonos 1 with alexa works here in nz 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Hello Sieghard

I agree about the Sonos speakers but is the Alexa option country specific 
because when I try to set the Echo Dot to work with Sonos One I get an error 
saying it could not connect to the server.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 6:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Then I think you may not have heard a Sonos system yet and while there a few 
limitations, you can set up a Sonos One or some of th eother newer speakers 
either as an Alexa or Google Home speaker. One limitation is that you can't use 
features like  Drop-In which you can do between actual Echo speakers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Nothing compares to the actual audio produced by the Homepod, nothing.

Except maybe for the Amazon Studio Speaker.

The Amazon devices certainly have a few more skills, no doubt about it, but 
Homepod sounds fantastic, far better than most Amazon devices.

Just an opinion.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

hi, Alan, I totally agree with you. The echo has a tremendous sound. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Janet,

 

I thought Apple's digital assistant is Siri. I would strongly recommend you 
stick with the Amazon Echo rather than investing in a Home Pod running Siri. 
All of these devices and systems have issues from time to time but my opinion 
is that the Amazon Echo is the best of the lot.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Janet 
Bell 
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:53:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: apple's equivalent of the echo 

 

please would someone tell me whether apple’s equivalent of the echo is any good 
as they are having trouble with the echo and wonder whether it is worth 
changing.  Janet

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RE: iPhone and Mail

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I just learned about another way to send an e-mail.

Dots 7 1 chord for command, followed by right Shift-d. I tried it and it works!

Best Regards,

 

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone and Mail

 

If you are very, very fast, you can press:

Space+dot7+1 for command, space+dot7+4 for shift, and then the letter d.

If you are like me and don’t want to try to rush that, you can press:

Space+dot8+1 to toggle command on,

Space+dot8+dot4 to toggle shift on, then hit the letter d.

Then, toggle off command and shift with the same keystrokes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPhone and Mail

 

Hi all,

 

I apologize, I wasn’t specific enough. I am interested in this keystroke to be 
entered on a braille display. Sorry for any confusion.

Best regards

Les

 

Get Outlook for iOS 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Kliph Senior mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 1:44:54 PM
To: GoogleGroups mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: iPhone and Mail 

 

That is not correct.  The proper key command is  

Shift plus command plus d.  Take it from the nicknamed keyboard king my co 
workers call me.

 

 

On Jul 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Shift,+Control+D.

Gera 

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 26 jul 2020, a la(s) 11:42 a.m., Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > escribió:

 

Hi All,

I believe there is a keystroke for sending an e-mail in the mail app. Can 
someone tell me what that shortcut is? Thanks.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

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RE: Zoom F6Hi folks, hi folks, Do any of you know of a blind users group for the zoom F6? There is an iPhone app that goes with it and I’d like to know more about it. I need help. Thanks

[jerry.berrier]

I recently got an F6, and I got some good answers from Reapers without Peepers, 
(RWP). 

I don’t know of any group specifically for the F6, but I’d be glad to answer 
any questions I know the answers to.

 

 

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Subject: Zoom F6Hi folks, hi folks, Do any of you know of a blind users group 
for the zoom F6? There is an iPhone app that goes with it and I’d like to know 
more about it. I need help. Thanks

 

 

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On Jul 26, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
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Is their a way to reverse the left and right rocker buttons either on the 
display, or in the iPhone settings?

 

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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