Re: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

[Robin]

this is True, as I  usually get About 8Hours on My BoseFrames Tempo
At 09:14 AM 1/11/2021, you wrote:

I’ve pasted the previous thread below, but as 
the conversation has moved over to talking about Bose, started a new thread.


The Bose site says the Tempos get 8 hours of active use.



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From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



I was originally very interested in the Bose 
Tempos but held back due to fear that they just 
wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day 
use like making and receiving several phone 
calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but 
running out of battery during the day would be a 
deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for several hours a day.




What has been your experience in terms of 
battery life? I'd be interested in anyone else's 
experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.
















Warmest regards



Rick Alfaro



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From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of Jennie Facer


Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair 
as well, but i like the tempo pair better. If 
anyone is interested in them, let me know.




Jenn



Jenn and Kumi



> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin 
<robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:


>

> JustWonderin':

> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this?

> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

>

> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide

> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow 
its Users to Hear TheirEnvironment & Listen to 
TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:


>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always 
give you the best price.  i bought mine from 
the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
especially on models that are not necessarily 
the latest, but are completely functional.


>> 
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>>

>> Andy

>>

>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty"

>> <si...@blinky-net.com>

>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>>

>>

>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys 
retailing the after shockz but amazon is 
probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.


>>

>> Music,

>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the

>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've

>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even

>> better again for music

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf


>> Of Richard Turner

>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>>

>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

>>

>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.

>> They are primarily designed for people doing 
things outdoors so they can hear their surroundings.


>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and 
other outdoor activities where being aware of your surroundings is important.


>> After they were out for a while, they were 
made aware that they can also help visually 
impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.


>>

>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most 
recent model with 8 hours of battery life, but 
someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.


>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you 
have time to return them for a refund if they don't work for you.


>>

>>

>>

>> Richard

>>

>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to 
allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


>>

>>

>> My web site,

>> 

RE: resetting an old mini IPad

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah sorry I meant ipad.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 12:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: resetting an old mini IPad

Just my phone? Did you mean my Ipad?
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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: resetting an old mini IPad

Just your phone and find my ipad.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:49 am
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: resetting an old mini IPad

Hi,

I am going to reset my mini IPad II back to the original factory settings so I 
can give it to my granddaughter. What do I need to sign out of or change before 
I do that? Do I nee to sign out of my Apple account first?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Giveaway for Castro Podcast Player (iOS)

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I saw this offer on the Castro podcast's player Twitter handle and at least
when I redeemed the offer, it was still good. Valid for 500 redemptions.  
$9.49 for the first year then back to the $18 after the first year. 
https://tokn.co/c/BNmxR0KO

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RE: battery health

[chalt...@outlook.com]

If you research best practices for an LI battery, you’ll find the best thing to 
do for long term health is shallow discharges, i.e. let it run down to 50% to 
80% of it’s battery capacity and then top it off to get it back to 100%. I 
think whatever you do is OK though, but you do want to avoid letting it run all 
of the way down and then storing it for a long period of time. Letting an LI 
battery discharge all the way will damage the LI battery. This isn’t an issue 
when you use it all of the time since iPhones and other devices shutoff before 
the battery itself is fully discharged. Since an LI battery will continue to 
lose it’s charge even if it isn’t being used, you want to avoid storing it for 
any length of time after running it down all the way.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 3:22 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: battery health

According to the Apple website. It says something like when leaving an iPhone 
unused for sometime have the battery at 50% charge and check it each 6 months 
or so.
Max.

On 12 Jan 2021, at 5:15 am, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Hi all. I have an Iphone 8 which I am not currently using. I’m wondering if it 
is  better for the health of the battery to leave it  plugged in all the time, 
or let the battery drain and re-charge. Since I am currently using an Iphone 7 
it may be that I may need to use that 8 at some point. Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Re: resetting an old mini IPad

[Vicki W.]

Just my phone? Did you mean my Ipad?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 4:03 PM
  Subject: RE: resetting an old mini IPad


  Just your phone and find my ipad.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:49 am
  To: IPhone 
  Subject: resetting an old mini IPad

   

  Hi,

   

  I am going to reset my mini IPad II back to the original factory settings so 
I can give it to my granddaughter. What do I need to sign out of or change 
before I do that? Do I nee to sign out of my Apple account first?

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

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Re: Two music questions, one Apple.

[Wayne Merritt]

One thing I forgot to mention. When viewing a limited set of tracks
you have downloaded or added to a play list, there is often an option
after all tracks to show all tracks on the album. Between this and the
work around I mentioned before, I am usually able to get to all tracks
for an album.

Wayne

On 1/11/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> I often have tracks show up partly on an album I've downloaded in
> Apple Music. My work around for this is to go through the steps of
> locating the album in Apple music to view all tracks. This usually
> works, but sometimes even when I drill down through the different
> screens not all tracks show for an album. It is a slightly annoying
> issue but I don't have another option at present. Open to ideas.
>
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 1/11/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Hi Malcolm ,
>>
>> Sorry didn't get that from your first emal,
>>
>>  Thought your itunes comment was aimed at the music store rather than the
>> itunes app.
>>
>> But that however is very odd
>> I would check your phone and make sure the album has completely
>> downloaded
>> to your phone and see if that changes anything.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:24 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Two music questions, one Apple.
>>
>> I see what you’re saying, sometimes it will say an item is not available
>> in
>> your country or region, but the laptop and iPhone are in the same room so
>> I
>> don’t think in this case it’s geographical.  Incidentally they’re on the
>> same wireless network too.
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
>>> On 11 Jan 2021, at 22:11, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah the apple music issue if I'm correct here is a geographical
>>> location issue where in some cases some of the tracks are only
>>> available in some countries Therefore if you buy the album Some of the
>>> tracks wont show up in your listing due to you being in another
>>> country
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:29 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Two music questions, one Apple.
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.
>>>
>>> When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone
>>> but are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it’s the other way.  Has anyone
>>> else
>>> noticed this?
>>>
>>> The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native
>>> Music App.
>>>
>>> Let’s say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The
>>> Beatles
>>> commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all
>>> tracks one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is
>>> listed
>>> after the first disc.
>>>
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>
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Re: Two music questions, one Apple.

[Wayne Merritt]

I often have tracks show up partly on an album I've downloaded in
Apple Music. My work around for this is to go through the steps of
locating the album in Apple music to view all tracks. This usually
works, but sometimes even when I drill down through the different
screens not all tracks show for an album. It is a slightly annoying
issue but I don't have another option at present. Open to ideas.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 1/11/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Malcolm ,
>
> Sorry didn't get that from your first emal,
>
>  Thought your itunes comment was aimed at the music store rather than the
> itunes app.
>
> But that however is very odd
> I would check your phone and make sure the album has completely downloaded
> to your phone and see if that changes anything.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:24 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two music questions, one Apple.
>
> I see what you’re saying, sometimes it will say an item is not available in
> your country or region, but the laptop and iPhone are in the same room so I
> don’t think in this case it’s geographical.  Incidentally they’re on the
> same wireless network too.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>> On 11 Jan 2021, at 22:11, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah the apple music issue if I'm correct here is a geographical
>> location issue where in some cases some of the tracks are only
>> available in some countries Therefore if you buy the album Some of the
>> tracks wont show up in your listing due to you being in another
>> country
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:29 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Two music questions, one Apple.
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.
>>
>> When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone
>> but are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it’s the other way.  Has anyone else
>> noticed this?
>>
>> The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native
>> Music App.
>>
>> Let’s say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The Beatles
>> commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all
>> tracks one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is listed
>> after the first disc.
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
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RE: resetting an old mini IPad

[Simon A Fogarty]

Just your phone and find my ipad.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:49 am
To: IPhone 
Subject: resetting an old mini IPad

Hi,

I am going to reset my mini IPad II back to the original factory settings so I 
can give it to my granddaughter. What do I need to sign out of or change before 
I do that? Do I nee to sign out of my Apple account first?

Thanks.

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resetting an old mini IPad

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

I am going to reset my mini IPad II back to the original factory settings so I 
can give it to my granddaughter. What do I need to sign out of or change before 
I do that? Do I nee to sign out of my Apple account first?

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RE: Two music questions, one Apple.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Malcolm ,

Sorry didn't get that from your first emal,

 Thought your itunes comment was aimed at the music store rather than the 
itunes app.

But that however is very odd 
I would check your phone and make sure the album has completely downloaded to 
your phone and see if that changes anything.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two music questions, one Apple.

I see what you’re saying, sometimes it will say an item is not available in 
your country or region, but the laptop and iPhone are in the same room so I 
don’t think in this case it’s geographical.  Incidentally they’re on the same 
wireless network too.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 11 Jan 2021, at 22:11, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah the apple music issue if I'm correct here is a geographical 
> location issue where in some cases some of the tracks are only 
> available in some countries Therefore if you buy the album Some of the 
> tracks wont show up in your listing due to you being in another 
> country
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:29 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two music questions, one Apple.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.
> 
> When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone but 
> are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it’s the other way.  Has anyone else noticed 
> this?
> 
> The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native 
> Music App.
> 
> Let’s say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The Beatles 
> commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all tracks 
> one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is listed after the 
> first disc.
> 
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Re: Two music questions, one Apple.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I see what you’re saying, sometimes it will say an item is not available in 
your country or region, but the laptop and iPhone are in the same room so I 
don’t think in this case it’s geographical.  Incidentally they’re on the same 
wireless network too.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 11 Jan 2021, at 22:11, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah the apple music issue if I'm correct here is a geographical location 
> issue where in some cases some of the tracks are only available in some 
> countries 
> Therefore if you buy the album 
> Some of the tracks wont show up in your listing due to you being in another 
> country
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:29 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two music questions, one Apple.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.
> 
> When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone but 
> are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it’s the other way.  Has anyone else noticed 
> this?
> 
> The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native 
> Music App.
> 
> Let’s say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The Beatles 
> commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all tracks 
> one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is listed after the 
> first disc.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: battery health

[Simon A Fogarty]

I'd swap over the 7 and use the 8 and then put the 7 either out to pasture or 
keep it in a drawer until someone needs a phone.

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Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 8:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery health

I would leave it unplugged and just let it drain.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I have an Iphone 8 which I am not currently using. I’m wondering if 
> it is  better for the health of the battery to leave it  plugged in all the 
> time, or let the battery drain and re-charge. Since I am currently using an 
> Iphone 7 it may be that I may need to use that 8 at some point. Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups 
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RE: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah they are the first to be released 

The tenor are a better fit but still I could suggest some changes for them,
 But again if people are wanting to check them out,
I highly recommend trying the different models out before you buy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:48 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

I have the Bose frames alto and absolutely like their sound. I wouldn't 
recommend them though, as the glasses don't fit very well and look very 
cheapish. Battery life could be better as well. So I guess the frames tempo 
will be a choice for me one day.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von 
Richard Turner
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Januar 2021 18:14
An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

I’ve pasted the previous thread below, but as the conversation has moved over 
to talking about Bose, started a new thread.

The Bose site says the Tempos get 8 hours of active use.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

 

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

 

Jenn

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin   > wrote:

> 

> JustWonderin':

> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 

> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

> 

> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 

> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:

>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.

>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a 
>>  

>> tguys.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2bda49e285d6486caab108d8b648ee67%7

>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459771637482326%7CUnkn

>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw

>> iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WnjK4BP61lewQ5GHOnqvgQs9469q0HMBqe5Q

>> pZV7zCY%3D&reserved=0

>> 

>> Andy

>> 

>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

>> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >

>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> 

>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.

>> 

>> Music,

>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 

>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 

>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 

>> better again for music

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 

>> Of Richard Turner

>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

>> 

>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.

>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.

>>

RE: Two music questions, one Apple.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah the apple music issue if I'm correct here is a geographical location issue 
where in some cases some of the tracks are only available in some countries 
Therefore if you buy the album 
Some of the tracks wont show up in your listing due to you being in another 
country

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two music questions, one Apple.

Hello,

Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.

When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone but 
are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it’s the other way.  Has anyone else noticed 
this?

The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native Music 
App.

Let’s say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The Beatles 
commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all tracks 
one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is listed after the 
first disc.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey if you think walking fast herts when you walk in to something,

You need to try getting hit by a tour bus carrying 50 american tourists,

 That I can tell you really flippen herts,

Part of my troubles is the paving around my city needs to be  cleaned up as 
it's cobble stones and generally crap and never maintained.

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Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 6:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

I think it is easier to walk straight when walking faster; the straight line is 
easier to feel.  Trouble is, if you crash into something, it hurts more. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

Hi Simon I reckon I walk straighter when I have had a few than when I am sober. 
 Janet

On 10/01/2021 22:40, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Sorry
> Blind people not walking straight,
> Hell now theres an issue
> If I could walk straight I wouldn't need to drink anymore.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 4:10 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind
>
> Hello tony,
>
> I forwarded your message to my former coworkers, many of which are 
> Orientation and Mobility instructors.
> If I get any feedback from them, I'll let you know.
> I know they have struggled with some clients on getting them to learn to walk 
> straight, so I think this will be a big help.
>
> I'm not sure about the Blind Bat app.  The idea of echo location is to have 
> the click loud enough to hear the echo back from objects.  I'd be very 
> interested in hearing from anyone who uses echo location to find out how well 
> this works.
>
> A very interesting idea though.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> . I'm not the card shark
> . My web site, www.turner42.com
> .
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Tony Malykh
> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind
>
> Blind Compass  and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind Hello, My name is Tony 
> and I wrote two iPhone apps for blind people and recently I published them in 
> AppStore.
> Blind Compass is a compass app specifically designed for blind people. I was 
> surprised that such an app didn't seem to exist before - or am I missing 
> something? First, it reports your heading continuously by varying pitch, so 
> that even with not much musical training you can easily memorize how the 
> right direction sounds like, and you'll be able to walk in straight line just 
> by listening to your direction. ALso when your heading crosses North,East, 
> South, or West you will hear that spoken to you.
> I recommend to use Blind Compass with bone conductance bluetooth headphones. 
> Bone conductance headphones don't block ears, so that you can hear sounds 
> from the environment, as well as audio feedback from BlindCompasss.
> You can also have your heading spoken by either pressing button in the app, 
> or if you are using bluetooth headphones, you can press play button once.
> Second, Blind Compass allows you to lock your direction. Either press lock 
> button in the app, or press fast forward button on your headphones, or double 
> press play button on your headphones, and your direction will be locked. You 
> will hear auditory feedback guiding you back to the original heading. If you 
> allow Blind Compass to use location data, then it will also count distance 
> travelled from the point where you locked your location. This way you can 
> cross vast open space without fear of veering.
>
> Another app I wrote is Blind Bat - and it is designed to help people to learn 
> echolocation. Maybe I'm not that good at it myself, but I wanted to play 
> around with it, so I designed an app that would make ideal click, whatever 
> that might entail. You have a few parameters you can adjust and the app would 
> generate click sound that conforms to these parameters. You can specify mean 
> frequency, bandwidth and duration of click.
>
>
> If anyone is interested in source code:
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithu
> b.com%2Fmltony%2Fblind-compass%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1915a5e6450340
> c41c5108d8b5011743%7C84

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[Simon A Fogarty]

Tempo have an 8 hour battery life,
Tenor have a 5 hour battery life.

As for size,
No real size difference but the shape is different,
The tempo wrap around the face / eyes and have a longer arm which wraps back 
further around the head so they are more secure on your face while you wear 
them if exercising / running / cycling etc.

And the tenors are more straight across the face  with a slight bend in them to 
cover the eye,

Really it comes down to 
Tempo is a sportie model,
Tenor is a fashion accessorie 




 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 4:57 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

What is the difference in battery life and are the Tenors smaller or larger 
than the Tempo.
Are the microphones good?
Thanks, Marie

-Original Message-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Yeah I skipped over the alto,
And got the tenor and the tempo and I do love them.

I've just walked home from own listening to Tool, Most people would say it's 
careless but hey so long as I'm able to hear traffic I'm ok.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 1:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this?
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
>
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, 
> you
> wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  
>> i bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
>> especially on models that are not necessarily the latest, but are 
>> completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but 
>> amazon is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>>
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>>
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they 
>> can hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities 
>> where being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can 
>> also help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>>
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 
>> hours of battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk 
>> time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them 
>> for a refund if they don't work for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, 
>> are there several different models?  How are they in terms of 
>> listening to on line music streams, stuff like that?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jed
>>
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
>>> not that good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.o

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah don't have those issues but the only thing that hasn't worked for me is 
Hey siri unless I hold the button on the phone or the phone to my face,

 But I do get a couple of phone calls and playing media out of the frames in a 
day with a lot to remain.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 4:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.







Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
> 
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>> 
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>> 
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>> 
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
>> refund if they don't work for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
>> several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
>> music streams, stuff like that?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
>>> not that good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> tu
>>> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3
>>> %7
>>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770

Re: Alexa App Problem:

[Kimberly]

Are you running iOS 14.3? I was having the same problem though with a different 
app and when I rebooted my phone it seem to fix things.

Hope that helps.



Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Don Moore  wrote:
> 
> I tried to open the Alexa app, but when I do, it opens, then immediately
> shuts down.  I'm looking to enable the Calm Radio skill, but so far, no
> deal.
> 
> I deleted the app, but left the document stuff because I wasn't keen on
> reinstalling everything.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
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Re: battery health

[Agent086b]

According to the Apple website. It says something like when leaving an iPhone 
unused for sometime have the battery at 50% charge and check it each 6 months 
or so.
Max.
> On 12 Jan 2021, at 5:15 am, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I have an Iphone 8 which I am not currently using. I’m wondering if 
> it is  better for the health of the battery to leave it  plugged in all the 
> time, or let the battery drain and re-charge. Since I am currently using an 
> Iphone 7 it may be that I may need to use that 8 at some point. Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups 
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RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

[Richard Turner]

Certainly.

The guy at Video Only gave us a small discount.  The Sonos One SL lists for 
$180 and he gave them to us at $170.
The Arc soundbar lists at $800 and he gave it to us for $750.

I was looking up some info on the Arc soundbar and found that they actually 
include the cables you need, both the HDMI cable if you are going that route 
and the Optical Audio cable if you don't have a TV with the HDMI audio port.

Anything I have purchased in the past that required an HDMI cable, it was sold 
separately.

Later,


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

Hi Richard,
May I asked what kind of price have you seen or payed for them?
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

As I mentioned, they received a shipment of 40 Sonos Arc Sound bars 2 weeks ago 
and they sold out in two days.
The next shipment is due in a couple of weeks.

The Arc is the top rated sound bar by many reviewers, so a very hot product.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

Really?
Hell I walked out of the store with the play bar I purchased and carried it 
home.

A pain in the ass but I carried it home.

Don't your stockests have them in stock in store


But hey I'm sure you'll enjoy the 5 to 10 minutes of setup time it takes you to 
plug them n and go
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 12:07 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

We don't want to completely break the bank just yet.

The way our living room is set up, I'm thinking the sound bar will do a great 
job.

It should be here in a couple more weeks.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

Richard,

I'm pretty sure those of us with Sonos already
Arent' surprised,
And yeah the price is the biggest issue with sonos and of course other products 
from other manufacturers.

But great choice although I myself would have put some sonos 1 speakers in your 
lounge / living room area as rear speakers from your sound bar.

I find they do give a great surround feature to the sound bars etc.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 6:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

Hello all,
This is a very long email, so be prepared, or just go ahead and hit delete.

I have to say, I was a huge sceptic concerning the Sonos system.  I was under 
the impression that they were all too expensive.
Then, my wife and I had someone come in from a local audio store to give us an 
estimate and suggestions on how best to get audio in our kitchen and two office 
spaces.
We have a 1923 house that has lath and plaster construction which is difficult 
to deal with if you start talking about

RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Richard,

May I asked what kind of price have you seen or payed for them?

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

 

As I mentioned, they received a shipment of 40 Sonos Arc Sound bars 2 weeks ago 
and they sold out in two days.

The next shipment is due in a couple of weeks.

 

The Arc is the top rated sound bar by many reviewers, so a very hot product.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

 

Really?

Hell I walked out of the store with the play bar I purchased and carried it 
home.

 

A pain in the ass but I carried it home.

 

Don’t your stockests have them in stock in store 

 

 

But hey I’m sure you’ll enjoy the 5 to 10 minutes of setup time it takes you to 
plug them n and go

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 12:07 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

 

We don’t want to completely break the bank just yet.

 

The way our living room is set up, I’m thinking the sound bar will do a great 
job.

 

It should be here in a couple more weeks.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

 

Richard,

 

I’m pretty sure those of us with Sonos already 

Arent’ surprised,

And yeah the price is the biggest issue with sonos and of course other products 
from other manufacturers. 

 

But great choice although I myself would have put some sonos 1 speakers in your 
lounge / living room area as rear speakers from your sound bar.

 

I find they do give a great surround feature to the sound bars etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 6:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: from Sonos sceptic to Sonos believer

 

Hello all,

This is a very long email, so be prepared, or just go ahead and hit delete.

 

I have to say, I was a huge sceptic concerning the Sonos system.  I was under 
the impression that they were all too expensive.

Then, my wife and I had someone come in from a local audio store to give us an 
estimate and suggestions on how best to get audio in our kitchen and two office 
spaces.

We have a 1923 house that has lath and plaster construction which is difficult 
to deal with if you start talking about cutting holes into the ceiling or 
walls, so I was hoping for either a wired method that could go through the 
floors or something wireless.

After he spent about 30 minutes with us and looking at various options, he came 
down to recommending a Sonos amplifier and 3 remote Sonos One speakers for the 
other rooms.

The amplifier would allow us to keep our current receiver and wired bookshelf 
speakers and have TV sound everywhere, etc.

I might have gone with that except for two things.  They wanted to charge about 
$350 for installation and after consulting with Sieghard from this list, I 
realized that I could do the installation easily with the app and that a Sonos 
sound bar would make more sense for the living room than the amp. 

 

So, we decided to check around for other stores and found that Video Only sells 
Sonos equipment and we’ve had good luck with them in buying our TV and receiver.

Plus, they had the new Sonos Arc sound bar on demo along with the various 
remote speakers.

 

Once we heard the Arc, we were hooked.  

We also decided we don’t need the voice control on the room speakers so went 
with the Sonos One SL speakers, which are the same as the Sonos One’s without 
the microphone and Alexa, etc., and are $20 less per speaker.

We bought 3 Sonos One SL speakers and had them set up pretty easily with the 
Sonos app.

 

I knew I had 30 days to return them if we didn’t like them.

 

Well, if I tell you that after a week, we went back and bought two more so we’d 
have stereo pairs in the kitchen and my office space; you will know that we 
loved 

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Richard,

What do you mean they don’t fit you? You must have a big fat head. LOL  🤣 Just 
teasing.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.

 

 

 

Richard

 

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realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Kay Malmquist]

Thank much.  I appreciate the help.

Kay Malmquist
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Steve Pavlina - Self-Help Author - Speaker


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Last version of IOS 12?


  On Apple's page concerning iOS 12, 12.5.1 is the last version.



  Richard


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when I was young."
  "Why, what did she tell you?"
  "I don't know, I didn't listen."
  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Kay Malmquist  
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The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Cristobal Munoz]

Looks like they just released version 12.5.1 today for bug fixes.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/11/ios-12-5-1-covid-19-exposure-notifications/

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  On Apple's page concerning iOS 12, 12.5.1 is the last version. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
>> version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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Re: battery health

[Joseph Hudson]

I would leave it unplugged and just let it drain.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
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> Hi all. I have an Iphone 8 which I am not currently using. I’m wondering if 
> it is  better for the health of the battery to leave it  plugged in all the 
> time, or let the battery drain and re-charge. Since I am currently using an 
> Iphone 7 it may be that I may need to use that 8 at some point. Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups 
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Joseph Hudson]

It's just been so long since I've had 12 on my phone.I saw that after Richard 
wrote it.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:16 PM,   
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> 
> Wrong. It is 12.5.1. 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Joseph Hudson
> Verzonden: maandag 11 januari 2021 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: Last version of IOS 12?
> 
> I believe it is 12.3.
> 
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>> The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
>> version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks 
>> 
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>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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RE: IOS 14.3

[davycuppens]

There are several known bugs of which Apple is aware.

 

There are notification bugs but it is very user dependent. The last days there 
are many complaints not only from blind or visually impaired users; these 
problems are not accessibility related. For some users notifications nolonger 
pop up or when they do so there is no sound or some come in some do not.

 

Sometimes problems are solved by rebooting or resetting the phone but sometimes 
this won’t give any help. But most users are not affected. 

Regards

Davy 

 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: maandag 11 januari 2021 19:40
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS 14.3

 

14.3 has been out for a while.

Always check www.applevis.com /blog to read about accessibility improvements or 
bugs with each release.

 

I’ve  had no issues with 14.3.

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 14.3

 

I just saw that IOS 14.3 is out.  Has it been out for a while? Are there any 
issues with it? I’ve been a little behind in life, so maybe it’s been out a 
while. If so, sorry for the question. The update just showed up on my phone 
today.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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RE: Last version of IOS 12?

[davycuppens]

Wrong. It is 12.5.1. 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Joseph Hudson
Verzonden: maandag 11 januari 2021 20:07
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I believe it is 12.3.

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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Joseph Hudson]

I believe it is 12.3.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Richard Turner]

On Apple's page concerning iOS 12, 12.5.1 is the last version.


Richard

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On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last version 
of i o s 12 was.  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
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Last version of IOS 12?

[Kay Malmquist]

The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks

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AW: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

[Alexandra]

I have the Bose frames alto and absolutely like their sound. I wouldn't 
recommend them though, as the glasses don't fit very well and look very 
cheapish. Battery life could be better as well. So I guess the frames tempo 
will be a choice for me one day.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von 
Richard Turner
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Januar 2021 18:14
An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

I’ve pasted the previous thread below, but as the conversation has moved over 
to talking about Bose, started a new thread.

The Bose site says the Tempos get 8 hours of active use.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

 

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

 

Jenn

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin   > wrote:

> 

> JustWonderin':

> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 

> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

> 

> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 

> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:

>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.

>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a 
>>  

>> tguys.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2bda49e285d6486caab108d8b648ee67%7

>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459771637482326%7CUnkn

>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw

>> iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WnjK4BP61lewQ5GHOnqvgQs9469q0HMBqe5Q

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>> Andy

>> 

>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

>> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >

>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> 

>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.

>> 

>> Music,

>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 

>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 

>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 

>> better again for music

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 

>> Of Richard Turner

>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

>> 

>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.

>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.

>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.

>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.

>> 

>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.

>> Just 

RE: IOS 14.3

[Richard Turner]

14.3 has been out for a while.
Always check www.applevis.com /blog to read about accessibility improvements or 
bugs with each release.

I've  had no issues with 14.3.


Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 14.3

I just saw that IOS 14.3 is out.  Has it been out for a while? Are there any 
issues with it? I've been a little behind in life, so maybe it's been out a 
while. If so, sorry for the question. The update just showed up on my phone 
today.
God bless!
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RE: Two music questions, one Apple.

[Richard Turner]

I don't have Apple Music subscription, so I'm not sure why some tracks show on 
your phone and not on the computer or the other way 'round.

As for things like the White album, there you get to blame whomever entered it 
into the database that itunes uses.

You would have to edit the way it is tagged, which can be a very tedious 
process.
Sometimes, on the phone, I just create a playlist so I can put things in the 
order I wish.
That too, however, can be rather tedious.

I stopped, for example, importing audio books from CD because one disc might be 
tagged differently than another, quite crazy making.



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Subject: Two music questions, one Apple.

Hello,

Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.

When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone but 
are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it's the other way.  Has anyone else noticed 
this?

The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native Music 
App.

Let's say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The Beatles 
commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all tracks 
one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is listed after the 
first disc.

Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: IOS 14.3

[Kathy Brandt]

Think I will wait till after the 20th to install given what I have heard about 
Apple possibly blocking the federal message broadcasting system for the same 
reasons parlor was removed from the App Store.



On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


I just saw that IOS 14.3 is out.  Has it been out for a while? Are there any 
issues with it? I’ve been a little behind in life, so maybe it’s been out a 
while. If so, sorry for the question. The update just showed up on my phone 
today.
God bless!
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Two music questions, one Apple.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

Recently I have noticed something strange with Apple Music.

When I add an album to my library some tracks are missing from my iPhone but 
are listed in iTunes.  Sometimes it’s the other way.  Has anyone else noticed 
this?

The second question is not Apple Music related but applies to the native Music 
App.

Let’s say you have an album comprising of more than one disc.  The Beatles 
commonly known as The White Album for example.  How do you prevent all tracks 
one, two and so-on being listed together so that disc two is listed after the 
first disc.

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IOS 14.3

[Paul JOrdan]

I just saw that IOS 14.3 is out.  Has it been out for a while? Are there any
issues with it? I've been a little behind in life, so maybe it's been out a
while. If so, sorry for the question. The update just showed up on my phone
today.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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battery health

[Paul JOrdan]

Hi all. I have an Iphone 8 which I am not currently using. I'm wondering if
it is  better for the health of the battery to leave it  plugged in all the
time, or let the battery drain and re-charge. Since I am currently using an
Iphone 7 it may be that I may need to use that 8 at some point. Thanks.

God bless!

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RE: Super Lidar, and Updates to the Supersense Blog

[Richard Turner]

Following up on the book log, for those who use the BARD system from the 
National Library for the Blind, the Harry Potter series read by Jim Dale is 
available for free.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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Subject: Super Lidar, and Updates to the Supersense Blog

Hi all,
Happy 2021, and I hope the year is starting off well for you! :) My co-writer 
Ipek and I have been busy writing more for the Supersense blog, and have lots 
of updates that should hopefully be helpful and interesting to you!

First, our Super Lidar app has finally been approved by Apple, and you will see 
it being released this week! You can learn more about Lidar and the future of 
navigation in this post.
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We've also taken a long look at website accessibility, and this post is the 
first in a series we have started as a resource.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supersense.app%2Fpost%2Fa-site-that-works-for-everyone&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ecbb6cb89724326a7d908d8b6589aaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459838955852479%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hfXHqQC5hxu%2BsK3MhUgL4y%2FLicdpRTkwrVSQeUlgySw%3D&reserved=0
Ipek has pulled together her favorite audio books of 2020 in this comprehensive 
list, and you'll be able to find at least one thing that sounds interesting 
within!
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supersense.app%2Fpost%2Fbest-audiobooks-of-2020&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ecbb6cb89724326a7d908d8b6589aaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459838955862475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GKLGRht9EmqYoOpxqNbkSGaygvXc29MFJZ4byjErjI4%3D&reserved=0
Finally, Peter, one of our guest writers, has taken a dive into the potential 
for our app Supersense.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supersense.app%2Fpost%2Fthe-future-power-of-supersense-explore-and-find-feature-functionality&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ecbb6cb89724326a7d908d8b6589aaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459838955862475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=KPjqLWKEY2XqZjHsMzJcMblzTmZGjMk34QQAzZCb7jA%3D&reserved=0

If you're looking for more cool reads. I've also been working on a series of 
interviews with blind artists. You can check them out below.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supersense.app%2Fpost%2Fthe-story-of-precious-perez-activism-through-music&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ecbb6cb89724326a7d908d8b6589aaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459838955862475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=5WOWpLVVsWZF%2FH1CFjTmOcLgkGB9l1Bw1qxU%2BqqkHNI%3D&reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supersense.app%2Fpost%2Fsupersense-presents-john-bramblitt-the-blind-painter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ecbb6cb89724326a7d908d8b6589aaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459838955862475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oADWWSN3bsnfrd%2F6hn4XA8e3mFYWLlKmRmiLy5Fn9Wk%3D&reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.supersense.app%2Fpost%2Fsupersense-presents-chad-allen-blind-magician-and-the-creator-of-the-unseen-comic&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ecbb6cb89724326a7d908d8b6589aaa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459838955862475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=m0KvtG8SkTHtq3K1dWam8xrWVy5tGmzkC8%2Bb0zkvIx0%3D&reserved=0


As always, thanks for reading. We're discussing all kinds of topics on the 
blog, so let me know what you'd like to see more of!

All the best,

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Super Lidar, and Updates to the Supersense Blog

[Shane Lowe]

Hi all,
Happy 2021, and I hope the year is starting off well for you! :)
My co-writer Ipek and I have been busy writing more for the Supersense
blog, and have lots of updates that should hopefully be helpful and
interesting to you!

First, our Super Lidar app has finally been approved by Apple, and you
will see it being released this week! You can learn more about Lidar
and the future of navigation in this post.
https://www.supersense.app/post/super-lidar-the-first-step-forward
We've also taken a long look at website accessibility, and this post
is the first in a series we have started as a resource.
https://www.supersense.app/post/a-site-that-works-for-everyone
Ipek has pulled together her favorite audio books of 2020 in this
comprehensive list, and you'll be able to find at least one thing that
sounds interesting within!
https://www.supersense.app/post/best-audiobooks-of-2020
Finally, Peter, one of our guest writers, has taken a dive into the
potential for our app Supersense.
https://www.supersense.app/post/the-future-power-of-supersense-explore-and-find-feature-functionality

If you're looking for more cool reads. I've also been working on a
series of interviews with blind artists. You can check them out below.
https://www.supersense.app/post/the-story-of-precious-perez-activism-through-music
https://www.supersense.app/post/supersense-presents-john-bramblitt-the-blind-painter
https://www.supersense.app/post/supersense-presents-chad-allen-blind-magician-and-the-creator-of-the-unseen-comic


As always, thanks for reading. We're discussing all kinds of topics on
the blog, so let me know what you'd like to see more of!

All the best,

-- 
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Community Operations Manager @ Mediate
Mobile (call or text): +1 502-435-2671
Learn more at http://supersense.app

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RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

[therealsandyfinley]

The compass app could be very helpful if you have to cross a large parking lot. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

Hi Tony,
I think you are marvelously creative and very intuitive to think of these apps. 
I love the idea of using your compass app to walk a straight line across a very 
wide open area. This is brilliant. Thank you so much for your work!
Smiles,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

Blind Compass  and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind Hello, My name is Tony 
and I wrote two iPhone apps for blind people and recently I published them in 
AppStore.
Blind Compass is a compass app specifically designed for blind people. I was 
surprised that such an app didn't seem to exist before - or am I missing 
something? First, it reports your heading continuously by varying pitch, so 
that even with not much musical training you can easily memorize how the right 
direction sounds like, and you'll be able to walk in straight line just by 
listening to your direction. ALso when your heading crosses North,East, South, 
or West you will hear that spoken to you.
I recommend to use Blind Compass with bone conductance bluetooth headphones. 
Bone conductance headphones don't block ears, so that you can hear sounds from 
the environment, as well as audio feedback from BlindCompasss.
You can also have your heading spoken by either pressing button in the app, or 
if you are using bluetooth headphones, you can press play button once.
Second, Blind Compass allows you to lock your direction. Either press lock 
button in the app, or press fast forward button on your headphones, or double 
press play button on your headphones, and your direction will be locked. You 
will hear auditory feedback guiding you back to the original heading. If you 
allow Blind Compass to use location data, then it will also count distance 
travelled from the point where you locked your location. This way you can cross 
vast open space without fear of veering.

Another app I wrote is Blind Bat - and it is designed to help people to learn 
echolocation. Maybe I'm not that good at it myself, but I wanted to play around 
with it, so I designed an app that would make ideal click, whatever that might 
entail. You have a few parameters you can adjust and the app would generate 
click sound that conforms to these parameters. You can specify mean frequency, 
bandwidth and duration of click.


If anyone is interested in source code:

https://github.com/mltony/blind-compass/

https://github.com/mltony/blind-bat/


Let me know what you think of them!
--Tony

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RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

[therealsandyfinley]

I think it is easier to walk straight when walking faster; the straight line is 
easier to feel.  Trouble is, if you crash into something, it hurts more. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

Hi Simon I reckon I walk straighter when I have had a few than when I am sober. 
 Janet

On 10/01/2021 22:40, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Sorry
> Blind people not walking straight,
> Hell now theres an issue
> If I could walk straight I wouldn't need to drink anymore.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 4:10 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind
>
> Hello tony,
>
> I forwarded your message to my former coworkers, many of which are 
> Orientation and Mobility instructors.
> If I get any feedback from them, I'll let you know.
> I know they have struggled with some clients on getting them to learn to walk 
> straight, so I think this will be a big help.
>
> I'm not sure about the Blind Bat app.  The idea of echo location is to have 
> the click loud enough to hear the echo back from objects.  I'd be very 
> interested in hearing from anyone who uses echo location to find out how well 
> this works.
>
> A very interesting idea though.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> . I'm not the card shark
> . My web site, www.turner42.com
> .
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Tony Malykh
> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind
>
> Blind Compass  and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind Hello, My name is Tony 
> and I wrote two iPhone apps for blind people and recently I published them in 
> AppStore.
> Blind Compass is a compass app specifically designed for blind people. I was 
> surprised that such an app didn't seem to exist before - or am I missing 
> something? First, it reports your heading continuously by varying pitch, so 
> that even with not much musical training you can easily memorize how the 
> right direction sounds like, and you'll be able to walk in straight line just 
> by listening to your direction. ALso when your heading crosses North,East, 
> South, or West you will hear that spoken to you.
> I recommend to use Blind Compass with bone conductance bluetooth headphones. 
> Bone conductance headphones don't block ears, so that you can hear sounds 
> from the environment, as well as audio feedback from BlindCompasss.
> You can also have your heading spoken by either pressing button in the app, 
> or if you are using bluetooth headphones, you can press play button once.
> Second, Blind Compass allows you to lock your direction. Either press lock 
> button in the app, or press fast forward button on your headphones, or double 
> press play button on your headphones, and your direction will be locked. You 
> will hear auditory feedback guiding you back to the original heading. If you 
> allow Blind Compass to use location data, then it will also count distance 
> travelled from the point where you locked your location. This way you can 
> cross vast open space without fear of veering.
>
> Another app I wrote is Blind Bat - and it is designed to help people to learn 
> echolocation. Maybe I'm not that good at it myself, but I wanted to play 
> around with it, so I designed an app that would make ideal click, whatever 
> that might entail. You have a few parameters you can adjust and the app would 
> generate click sound that conforms to these parameters. You can specify mean 
> frequency, bandwidth and duration of click.
>
>
> If anyone is interested in source code:
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithu
> b.com%2Fmltony%2Fblind-compass%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1915a5e6450340
> c41c5108d8b5011743%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637458
> 363572269011%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM
> zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dIdUGylq747WJsXXbdp
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> CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000

Alexa App Problem:

[Don Moore]

I tried to open the Alexa app, but when I do, it opens, then immediately
shuts down.  I'm looking to enable the Calm Radio skill, but so far, no
deal.

I deleted the app, but left the document stuff because I wasn't keen on
reinstalling everything.  Any suggestions?

Thanks!



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RE: How do I delete an app?

[Carolyn]

Thanks, got it done, wonder if I could again, but right now, no reason to have 
to. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I delete an app?

Easy,

Flick one finger down over the app you wish to delete and then tap on edit mode 
 to open it, Then flick down to delete and double tap on it,

Then follow the prompts.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 2:33 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I delete an app?

Will try that again, could have missed something when I tried that once, 
thanks. 

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Stacy Fuehrer
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delete an app?

Hello, in order to delete the app, double tap and hold.
You will hear three tones that are played, lift your finger, it was a double to 
have to delete, go ahead and follow the prompts, and say yes to the 
confirmation.
That should take care of it
Let me know if you need anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have WhatsApp, but I want rid of it. How do I delete it, please?
> 
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RE: How do I delete an app?

[Carolyn]

Thank you; I got it out of my phone. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Stacy Fuehrer
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delete an app?

Hello, in order to delete the app, double tap and hold.
You will hear three tones that are played, lift your finger, it was a double to 
have to delete, go ahead and follow the prompts, and say yes to the 
confirmation.
That should take care of it
Let me know if you need anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have WhatsApp, but I want rid of it. How do I delete it, please?
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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[Marie N.]

What is the difference in battery life and are the Tenors smaller or larger 
than the Tempo.

Are the microphones good?
Thanks, Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Yeah I skipped over the alto,
And got the tenor and the tempo and I do love them.

I've just walked home from own listening to Tool,
Most people would say it's careless but hey so long as I'm able to hear 
traffic I'm ok.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 1:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the 
tempo pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:

JustWonderin':
Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this?
MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide
QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you 
wrote:
Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially 
on models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely 
functional.

www.atguys.com

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but 
amazon is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.


Music,
I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the
older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've
heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even
better again for music

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
hear their surroundings.
They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
being aware of your surroundings is important.
After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.


The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for 
a refund if they don't work for you.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are 
there several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on 
line music streams, stuff like that?


Cheers,

Jed


On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don't fit.
Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all
the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly
not that good.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more
comfortable than previous mode

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[rick.alfaro]

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.







Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
> 
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>> 
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>> 
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>> 
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
>> refund if they don't work for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
>> several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
>> music streams, stuff like that?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
>>> not that good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes. I've the two apps. Weird! because I just checked and the Scan button is no 
longer there! I too need to go into Add as you mentioned, with the first Button 
being Scan.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 11 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:00 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
> Do you also have the separate scanner app?
> I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do 
> the add button, then scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning
> 
> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
> Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
> if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to 
> have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
> Scanner app?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like 
>> I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
>> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
>> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
>> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
>> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result.
>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then 
>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan 
>> done. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to 
>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps 
>>> as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
 add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It 
 has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
 settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
 there. 
 It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
 completely accessible. 
 
 
 Richard
 
 "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
 Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
 in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
 when I was young."
 "Why, what did she tell you?"
 "I don't know, I didn't listen."
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RE: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Richard Turner]

Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
Do you also have the separate scanner app?
I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do the 
add button, then scanner.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to have 
vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
Scanner app?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[lenron brown]

As much as I don't scan things. I am not going to be upset about
waiting a few extra seconds. So I will take this added feature in
voice dream. It's the only app by the devs over there I have.

On 1/11/21, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a
> Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd
> be if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to
> have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate
> VDR Scanner app?
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner
>>  escribió:
>>
>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel
>> like I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app
>> all this time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted
>> severl times in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be
>> beneficial for quick scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point
>> it at a document, piece of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a
>> result.
>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then
>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan
>> done.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>
>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to
>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps
>>> as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had
>>> we waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the
>>> stand alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:

 As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select
 add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It
 has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import
 those settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change
 them right there.
 It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is
 completely accessible.


 Richard

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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Gerardo Corripio]

On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to have 
vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
Scanner app?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
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>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
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