RE: New AirPods Pro

[Maria Reyes]

Simon,
Are the bose frames bone conduction? My friend has the Trekz titanium That’s 
why I was planning to get them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 12:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Maria,

Before looking at the after shockz
Look at the bose frames and see what you think,

As for the after shockz,
Look at the aero pex and that’s not the correct spelling,

Eyah the pros are nice,but I don’t personally think they are worth the larger 
price,

But hey there really isn’t anything to compare them against in the same genre 
except may be the power beats pro,which don’t have wifi charging ability.

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 6:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Well if that’s the case, I may end up getting the original Pros.
I already have the standard AirPods and looking to upgrade because the noise 
cancelation and transparency features sound really cool.
As for headphones for GPS apps I will probably get the Aftershokz Treks 
Titanium .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Hi Maria,

There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,

The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
transparency  but in the pro format.

So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape

As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
likely.

As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
not just the standard ones?

I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
standards
However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
walking / traveling around.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New AirPods Pro

So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?
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RE: New AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

The pros and the max aren’t good for a blind person if you are walking around 
using GPS,
The transparency mode isnt’ sufficient enough to hear traffic noise.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 6:36 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New AirPods Pro

Totally different as they’re over the year I wanted to just the max, AirPod 
that is. This may be irrelevant because they’re over the years but the whole 
surroundsound transparency mode is multiplied by four times from what I’ve read.
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Maria Reyes 
mailto:reyesm...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well if that’s the case, I may end up getting the original Pros.
I already have the standard AirPods and looking to upgrade because the noise 
cancelation and transparency features sound really cool.
As for headphones for GPS apps I will probably get the Aftershokz Treks 
Titanium .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Hi Maria,

There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,

The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
transparency  but in the pro format.

So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape

As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
likely.

As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
not just the standard ones?

I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
standards
However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
walking / traveling around.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New AirPods Pro

So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?
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RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I didn't go all the way through with the checkout process because I don't want 
to buy the book, but after clicking on the link it took me about 30 seconds to 
select the format I wanted from the drop down list, add it to the cart, read 
about the options to include a donation and click the "Begin Checkout" button. 
Here it seemed pretty straight forward as well, you could either sign in with 
your email and password if you had an account or enter you email, a password 
and confirm to create a new one. Very standard and, as one would expect, 
accessible.

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Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!

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Hi everyone,

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

best,
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RE: New AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Maria,

Before looking at the after shockz
Look at the bose frames and see what you think,

As for the after shockz,
Look at the aero pex and that’s not the correct spelling,

Eyah the pros are nice,but I don’t personally think they are worth the larger 
price,

But hey there really isn’t anything to compare them against in the same genre 
except may be the power beats pro,which don’t have wifi charging ability.

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 6:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Well if that’s the case, I may end up getting the original Pros.
I already have the standard AirPods and looking to upgrade because the noise 
cancelation and transparency features sound really cool.
As for headphones for GPS apps I will probably get the Aftershokz Treks 
Titanium .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Hi Maria,

There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,

The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
transparency  but in the pro format.

So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape

As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
likely.

As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
not just the standard ones?

I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
standards
However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
walking / traveling around.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New AirPods Pro

So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?
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Re: Asking a question on Vorail

[Joseph Hudson]

I didn't think that they were offering the free trial anymore. I'm paying for 
it so I don't have that problem.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Ok interesting. I don't see the create ask all option when in my question 
> feed. Do I have to be paying for the subscription actively in order to post a 
> question? I'm on the free trial.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 12:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Asking a question on Vorail
> 
> Oh Maria, I'm also on that app. So I don't do that very much, but I have 
> posted questions. So you have to be in the questions feed in order to post a 
> question. You're going to swipe up with one finger to get to the create ask 
> all button. Then he will double tap just as you would with voiceover on.
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:17 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I am back on Vorail just to see what has changed other than the 
>> subscription. 😊
>> The interface is now based on gestures which can be confusing.
>> Speaking of gestures, does anybody know how to post a question on Vorail?
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[Joseph Hudson]

Well she mentioned cleaning so I didn't know what you were looking for. But now 
that I know what you're looking for, something else you could use to, is 
next-door. And yes it is accessible. And they do just about anything in there. 
From look for people to do jobs to complain about noise or anything like that.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Joseph,
> 
> Home Advisor provides vendors for doing various jobs around the home; not 
> taking someone shopping, at least, that is my impression.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 8:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?
> 
> Oh wow yeah that is a little steep. I almost think he would possibly be 
> better doing something like that on home advisor.
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 6:47 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark.
>> I have used it. It's doable... kind of a PITA. But everything was labeled 
>> when I used it. I downloaded the first one you mentioned. It was $39.99 for 
>> a year which was kind of steap imo. I wanted to find a house-cleaner and 
>> someone to take me to do eronds. 
>> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>> Jen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  
>>> 
>>> The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite 
>>> reasonable ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like 
>>> to make certain that the app is VoiceOver accessible.
>>> 
>>> Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I 
>>> believe the resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as 
>>> being for those seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one 
>>> can search for people who provide care for anything; for example to 
>>> those who are blind or low vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed 
>>> as being for those who wish to register to the service as being a 
>>> care giver.  Again, the same options appear in either of the 
>>> downloads which is why I am almost positive that the two app listings are 
>>> one-in-the-same.
>>> 
>>> While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer 
>>> to register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store 
>>> so as to be certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without 
>>> any hassle.
>>> Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet 
>>> another service unless it is absolutely necessary.
>>> 
>>> As always, all replies greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Asking a question on Vorail

[Maria Reyes]

Ok interesting. I don't see the create ask all option when in my question feed. 
Do I have to be paying for the subscription actively in order to post a 
question? I'm on the free trial.

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Subject: Re: Asking a question on Vorail

Oh Maria, I'm also on that app. So I don't do that very much, but I have posted 
questions. So you have to be in the questions feed in order to post a question. 
You're going to swipe up with one finger to get to the create ask all button. 
Then he will double tap just as you would with voiceover on.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:17 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Yes, I am back on Vorail just to see what has changed other than the 
> subscription. 😊
> The interface is now based on gestures which can be confusing.
> Speaking of gestures, does anybody know how to post a question on Vorail?
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Re: New AirPods Pro

[Pete Nalda]

Totally different as they’re over the year I wanted to just the max, AirPod 
that is. This may be irrelevant because they’re over the years but the whole 
surroundsound transparency mode is multiplied by four times from what I’ve read.

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> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well if that’s the case, I may end up getting the original Pros.
> I already have the standard AirPods and looking to upgrade because the noise 
> cancelation and transparency features sound really cool.
> As for headphones for GPS apps I will probably get the Aftershokz Treks 
> Titanium .
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro
>  
> Hi Maria,
>  
> There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,
>  
> The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
> transparency  but in the pro format.
>  
> So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape
>  
> As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
> likely.
>  
> As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
> not just the standard ones?
>  
> I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
> probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
> standards
> However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
> walking / traveling around.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New AirPods Pro
>  
> So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
> come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come 
> out with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise 
> the price like they always do with new products?
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Re: Asking a question on Vorail

[Joseph Hudson]

Oh Maria, I'm also on that app. So I don't do that very much, but I have posted 
questions. So you have to be in the questions feed in order to post a question. 
You're going to swipe up with one finger to get to the create ask all button. 
Then he will double tap just as you would with voiceover on.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:17 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I am back on Vorail just to see what has changed other than the 
> subscription. 😊
> The interface is now based on gestures which can be confusing.
> Speaking of gestures, does anybody know how to post a question on Vorail?
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Asking a question on Vorail

[Maria Reyes]

Yes, I am back on Vorail just to see what has changed other than the 
subscription. 😊
The interface is now based on gestures which can be confusing.
Speaking of gestures, does anybody know how to post a question on Vorail?

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RE: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Joseph,

Home Advisor provides vendors for doing various jobs around the home; not 
taking someone shopping, at least, that is my impression.

Mark

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Joseph Hudson
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Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

Oh wow yeah that is a little steep. I almost think he would possibly be better 
doing something like that on home advisor.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 6:47 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark.
> I have used it. It's doable... kind of a PITA. But everything was labeled 
> when I used it. I downloaded the first one you mentioned. It was $39.99 for a 
> year which was kind of steap imo. I wanted to find a house-cleaner and 
> someone to take me to do eronds. 
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  
>> 
>> The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite 
>> reasonable ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like 
>> to make certain that the app is VoiceOver accessible.
>> 
>> Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I 
>> believe the resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as 
>> being for those seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one 
>> can search for people who provide care for anything; for example to 
>> those who are blind or low vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed 
>> as being for those who wish to register to the service as being a 
>> care giver.  Again, the same options appear in either of the 
>> downloads which is why I am almost positive that the two app listings are 
>> one-in-the-same.
>> 
>> While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer 
>> to register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store 
>> so as to be certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without any 
>> hassle.
>> Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet 
>> another service unless it is absolutely necessary.
>> 
>> As always, all replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jennifer,

That is exactly why I want to use the service.  Great minds think alike, eh? 

Thank you for the feedback; I will sign up, tomorrow.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

Hi Mark.
I have used it. It's doable... kind of a PITA. But everything was labeled when 
I used it. I downloaded the first one you mentioned. It was $39.99 for a year 
which was kind of steap imo. I wanted to find a house-cleaner and someone to 
take me to do eronds. 
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  
> 
> The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite 
> reasonable ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like 
> to make certain that the app is VoiceOver accessible.
> 
> Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I believe 
> the resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as being for 
> those seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one can search 
> for people who provide care for anything; for example to those who are 
> blind or low vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed as being for 
> those who wish to register to the service as being a care giver.  
> Again, the same options appear in either of the downloads which is why 
> I am almost positive that the two app listings are one-in-the-same.
> 
> While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer to 
> register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store so as 
> to be certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without any hassle.
> Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet 
> another service unless it is absolutely necessary.
> 
> As always, all replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: New AirPods Pro

[Joseph Hudson]

The AirPods Pro would work better for both.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Well if that’s the case, I may end up getting the original Pros.
> I already have the standard AirPods and looking to upgrade because the noise 
> cancelation and transparency features sound really cool.
> As for headphones for GPS apps I will probably get the Aftershokz Treks 
> Titanium .
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A 
> Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro
>  
> Hi Maria,
>  
> There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,
>  
> The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
> transparency  but in the pro format.
>  
> So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape
>  
> As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
> likely.
>  
> As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
> not just the standard ones?
>  
> I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
> probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
> standards
> However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
> walking / traveling around.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New AirPods Pro
>  
> So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
> come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come 
> out with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise 
> the price like they always do with new products?
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RE: New AirPods Pro

[Maria Reyes]

Well if that’s the case, I may end up getting the original Pros.
I already have the standard AirPods and looking to upgrade because the noise 
cancelation and transparency features sound really cool.
As for headphones for GPS apps I will probably get the Aftershokz Treks 
Titanium .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New AirPods Pro

Hi Maria,

There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,

The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
transparency  but in the pro format.

So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape

As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
likely.

As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
not just the standard ones?

I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
standards
However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
walking / traveling around.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New AirPods Pro

So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[Joseph Hudson]

Oh wow yeah that is a little steep. I almost think he would possibly be better 
doing something like that on home advisor.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 6:47 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark.
> I have used it. It's doable... kind of a PITA. But everything was labeled 
> when I used it. I downloaded the first one you mentioned. It was $39.99 for a 
> year which was kind of steap imo. I wanted to find a house-cleaner and 
> someone to take me to do eronds. 
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  
>> 
>> The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite reasonable
>> ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like to make certain
>> that the app is VoiceOver accessible.
>> 
>> Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I believe the
>> resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as being for those
>> seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one can search for people
>> who provide care for anything; for example to those who are blind or low
>> vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed as being for those who wish to
>> register to the service as being a care giver.  Again, the same options
>> appear in either of the downloads which is why I am almost positive that the
>> two app listings are one-in-the-same.  
>> 
>> While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer to
>> register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store so as to be
>> certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without any hassle.
>> Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet another
>> service unless it is absolutely necessary.
>> 
>> As always, all replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Mark, I haven't use the service but I've heard about it on a commercial. I 
wonder if you sign up using the iPhone and creating account, if it will allow 
you to log into that account on the website using the same subscription kind of 
like ESPN. That way you can not have to worry about giving him any billing 
information. I will be doing this with ESPN here in a couple of weeks I think.

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 3:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  
> 
> The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite reasonable
> ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like to make certain
> that the app is VoiceOver accessible.
> 
> Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I believe the
> resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as being for those
> seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one can search for people
> who provide care for anything; for example to those who are blind or low
> vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed as being for those who wish to
> register to the service as being a care giver.  Again, the same options
> appear in either of the downloads which is why I am almost positive that the
> two app listings are one-in-the-same.  
> 
> While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer to
> register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store so as to be
> certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without any hassle.
> Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet another
> service unless it is absolutely necessary.
> 
> As always, all replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: New AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Maria,

There has been a rumour re new pods for a year or so now,

The idea was to release a airpods without the noise cancelation features and 
transparency  but in the pro format.

So just a standard airpods but in new pro shape

As for if / when, only apple wil be able to tell you that and that wont be 
likely.

As for the pro, nice but is there a reason why you would go the pro pods and 
not just the standard ones?

I have both and I really don’t get the use out of the pros as much as I 
probably should  and the sound quality to me is pretty much as good with the 
standards
However each to their own, I tend now to use my bose frames a lot more while 
walking / traveling around.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 12:10 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New AirPods Pro

So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Mark.
I have used it. It's doable... kind of a PITA. But everything was labeled when 
I used it. I downloaded the first one you mentioned. It was $39.99 for a year 
which was kind of steap imo. I wanted to find a house-cleaner and someone to 
take me to do eronds. 
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  
> 
> The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite reasonable
> ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like to make certain
> that the app is VoiceOver accessible.
> 
> Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I believe the
> resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as being for those
> seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one can search for people
> who provide care for anything; for example to those who are blind or low
> vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed as being for those who wish to
> register to the service as being a care giver.  Again, the same options
> appear in either of the downloads which is why I am almost positive that the
> two app listings are one-in-the-same.  
> 
> While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer to
> register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store so as to be
> certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without any hassle.
> Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet another
> service unless it is absolutely necessary.
> 
> As always, all replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: New AirPods Pro

[Andy Baracco]

Well, Apple is always coming out with new stuff, and it will probably be better 
than what you have.  If you wait for something better, you'll always be waiting.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria Reyes 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:09 PM
  Subject: New AirPods Pro


  So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can’t decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?


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New AirPods Pro

[Maria Reyes]

So I am planning to get the AirPods Pro but I heard a rumor that Apple will 
come out with a new version, and I can't decide whether to see if they come out 
with them or get the current AirPods Pro. Do you think Apple will raise the 
price like they always do with new products?

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RE: FW: Major MacBook Pro Rumors: More Ports, No Touch Bar, Return of MagSafe, and More

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah but will they be Apple silicon devices or still intel devices,

And it's also making it sound like they are going to make them a more square 
like shape,
Somewhat like the older style, like the old 2013 mac book style. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 11:44 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: Major MacBook Pro Rumors: More Ports, No Touch Bar, Return of 
MagSafe, and More

I would maybe give one of these a try. Especially if things really go down like 
this.

On 1/21/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Lists,
>
> I thought some might like to read about these rumours,
>
> Be nice to have pports back in the mac book again.
>
>
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> New MacBook Pro Models Rumored to Feature More Ports, Flat-Edged 
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> Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo this week outlined his expectations for 
> all-new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro 
> models 73bd0aef5828e0&id=a6d3528515&e=821bb7bf59>
> later this year, including the return of the classic MagSafe charging 
> connector, the removal of the Touch Bar, a new flat-edged design, and 
> the return of more ports built into the notebooks for expanded connectivity.
>
> Bloomberg's Mark Gurman weighed in on the matter, claiming that the 
> return of MagSafe on the next MacBook Pro models will allow for faster 
> charging 3773bd0aef5828e0&id=e2f6650090&e=821bb7bf59>
> and that the connector will be similar to the elongated pill-shape 
> design of the MagSafe port on older Macs. Gurman said the new MacBook 
> Pro models will also feature next-generation Apple silicon chips and 
> brighter, higher-contrast displays. His report confirmed that Apple 
> has at least tested some new models of the MacBook Pro without the Touch Bar.
>
> It's unclear which ports could return to the MacBook Pro. From 2012 to 
> 2015, the 15-inch MacBook Pro offered a wider selection of 
> I/O d0aef5828e0&id=bebe26d2b6&e=821bb7bf59>,
> including a MagSafe connector, two Thunderbolt ports, two USB-A ports, 
> an HDMI port, an SD card reader, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>
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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Simon A Fogarty]

A folio keyboard is a case that folds around your iPad and has a keyboard in 
the front half
Your iPad stands up on a slight angle and lets you type like on a notebook 
computer

If you’re not worried about screen size then go for the iPad mini,

It’s only a year older and should I would think be cheaper than the air.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

I am totally blind and I am not worried about screen size and I don’t know 
anything about folio keyboard.
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi Fazil

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,
But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,
You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

The processor of course is newer in the air
And the screen I believe is better,

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

And that other question is what’s your budget?

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard
Cellular & wifi
256gb
Which is in excellent condition

And a iPad Mini 5
Cellular and wifi
256GB
Again in excellent condition,
Both space grey,

That I’m looking to sell,

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

Simon f

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi, Group.
Please help me decide.
I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.
It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.
Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?
I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.
Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks!

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Re: FW: Major MacBook Pro Rumors: More Ports, No Touch Bar, Return of MagSafe, and More

[lenron brown]

I would maybe give one of these a try. Especially if things really go
down like this.

On 1/21/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Lists,
>
> I thought some might like to read about these rumours,
>
> Be nice to have pports back in the mac book again.
>
>
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> New MacBook Pro Models Rumored to Feature More Ports, Flat-Edged Design,
> MagSafe, and No Touch
> Bar
> Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo this week outlined his expectations for all-new
> 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro
> models
> later this year, including the return of the classic MagSafe charging
> connector, the removal of the Touch Bar, a new flat-edged design, and the
> return of more ports built into the notebooks for expanded connectivity.
>
> Bloomberg's Mark Gurman weighed in on the matter, claiming that the return
> of MagSafe on the next MacBook Pro models will allow for faster
> charging
> and that the connector will be similar to the elongated pill-shape design of
> the MagSafe port on older Macs. Gurman said the new MacBook Pro models will
> also feature next-generation Apple silicon chips and brighter,
> higher-contrast displays. His report confirmed that Apple has at least
> tested some new models of the MacBook Pro without the Touch Bar.
>
> It's unclear which ports could return to the MacBook Pro. From 2012 to 2015,
> the 15-inch MacBook Pro offered a wider selection of
> I/O,
> including a MagSafe connector, two Thunderbolt ports, two USB-A ports, an
> HDMI port, an SD card reader, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>
> Kuo expects the new MacBook Pro models to launch in the third quarter, which
> spans July through September.
>
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> Article
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> bit. It’s important to us to have a computer that can meet our demands. Too
> often, however, we don’t increase the security or privacy of our Macs beyond
> the default.
>
> Sophos
> Home
> was developed to enhance Macs when it comes to protecting files, photos, and
> even online shopping. First and foremost, Sophos Home finds Mac malware,
> ransomware, and apps that could be damaging to our computers, even PC
> malware that could be spread to those PCs we interact with. When using
> Safari, Chrome, or another popular browser, Sophos Home can prevent us from
> going to phishing sites, malicious sites, and sites infected with malware.
> And even that sinking feeling that we’re being watched goes away with webcam
> and microphone protection.
>
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> phone app. Try it
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FW: Major MacBook Pro Rumors: More Ports, No Touch Bar, Return of MagSafe, and More

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Lists,

I thought some might like to read about these rumours,

Be nice to have pports back in the mac book again.


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Bar
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo this week outlined his expectations for all-new 
14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro 
models
 later this year, including the return of the classic MagSafe charging 
connector, the removal of the Touch Bar, a new flat-edged design, and the 
return of more ports built into the notebooks for expanded connectivity.

Bloomberg's Mark Gurman weighed in on the matter, claiming that the return of 
MagSafe on the next MacBook Pro models will allow for faster 
charging
 and that the connector will be similar to the elongated pill-shape design of 
the MagSafe port on older Macs. Gurman said the new MacBook Pro models will 
also feature next-generation Apple silicon chips and brighter, higher-contrast 
displays. His report confirmed that Apple has at least tested some new models 
of the MacBook Pro without the Touch Bar.

It's unclear which ports could return to the MacBook Pro. From 2012 to 2015, 
the 15-inch MacBook Pro offered a wider selection of 
I/O,
 including a MagSafe connector, two Thunderbolt ports, two USB-A ports, an HDMI 
port, an SD card reader, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.

Kuo expects the new MacBook Pro models to launch in the third quarter, which 
spans July through September.

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Article
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however, we don’t increase the security or privacy of our Macs beyond the 
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sites, malicious sites, and sites infected with malware. And even that sinking 
feeling that we’re being watched goes away with webcam and microphone 
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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Fazil]

I am totally blind and I am not worried about screen size and I don’t know 
anything about folio keyboard.

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

 

Hi Fazil

 

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

 

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,

But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,

You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

 

The processor of course is newer in the air 

And the screen I believe is better,

 

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

 

And that other question is what’s your budget?

 

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard 

Cellular & wifi

256gb

Which is in excellent condition 

 

And a iPad Mini 5 

Cellular and wifi 

256GB

Again in excellent condition,

Both space grey,

 

That I’m looking to sell,

 

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

 

Simon f

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

 

Hi, Group.

Please help me decide.

I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.

It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.

Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?

I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.

Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

[Donna Casteen]

Here are 2 links that describe the app Louie voice control...

https://youtu.be/FybjTs3xlss

https://youtu.be/HV7y3QctgqE

Donna


> 
> 
> hi,
>  
> How is this program different than the apples voice control function? since 
> it's not on apple was just wondering.
> - Original Message -
> From: Donna Casteen
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired
> 
> Harry,
> 
> The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS 
> won’t be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so Ive 
> been able to use the app. The app is very useful!
> 
> Donna
>   
>> 
>> 
>> Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk 
>> App Store. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Friends, 
>>> 
>>> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
>>> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
>>> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
>>> 
>>> See Louie in Action:
>>> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
>>> 
>>> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I 
>>> get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder 
>>> on enhancing the app.
>>> 
>>> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
>>> voice lovers.
>>> 
>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
>>> 9811886001
>>> 
>>> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
>>> "Louie".
>>> 
>>> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Pramit
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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fazil

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,
But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,
You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

The processor of course is newer in the air
And the screen I believe is better,

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

And that other question is what’s your budget?

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard
Cellular & wifi
256gb
Which is in excellent condition

And a iPad Mini 5
Cellular and wifi
256GB
Again in excellent condition,
Both space grey,

That I’m looking to sell,

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

Simon f

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi, Group.
Please help me decide.
I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.
It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.
Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?
I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.
Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks!

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Has Anyone Ever Used the Care.com App for iOS / iPad OS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Has anyone ever used the care.com app for either iOS or iPad OS?  

The reason I ask is because, there are in-app purchases, quite reasonable
ones, actually, but before I spend the money, I would like to make certain
that the app is VoiceOver accessible.

Now in the App Store, there are two listings for the app but I believe the
resulting download is the same.  One app lists itself as being for those
seeking baby-sitters; this is misleading because one can search for people
who provide care for anything; for example to those who are blind or low
vision, seniors, etc.  the other is listed as being for those who wish to
register to the service as being a care giver.  Again, the same options
appear in either of the downloads which is why I am almost positive that the
two app listings are one-in-the-same.  

While the service can be accessed from www.care.com, I would prefer to
register and purchase a subscription through the Apple App Store so as to be
certain that I can easily terminate any subscription without any hassle.
Also, I don't relish the idea of providing my billing info to yet another
service unless it is absolutely necessary.

As always, all replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: How Do You Sync Your Contacts From iPad With Your iPhone?

[Shirley Baker]

I want them to show as names. Backing my iPad up to iCloud seemed to have 
worked.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> 
> The subject asks my question. When I open the messages on my iPad pro, 
> instead of giving me the contacts from whom the messages are sent, I get the 
> phone numbers instead, so how do I sync the contacts from the iPad with my 
> iPhone? I have an iPhone 6S plus and an iPad pro.
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Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Shirley Baker]

I just did it a few days ago. Not that difficult for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 9:53 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
>  
> Hi everyone,
>  
> I thought some of you might want to know about this book.
>  
> best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
>  
> From: Tony Grima 
> Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
> Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
>  
> 
>  
> <~WRD.jpg>
> 
> What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
> By Anna Dresner
> In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00
> 
> Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 
> 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with 
> changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, 
> significant changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage 
> includes: the App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the 
> Messages, Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and 
> visual improvements; privacy; and much more.
> 
> Order the book and read the table of contents here.
> 
> Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's iOS 14 Reference Card: $8.00
>  
> Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!
>  
> Other Technology Guides
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> Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals Direct to Your 
> Door, by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
> Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's Most Popular 
> Productivity Apps, by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
> Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding Love Online, by 
> Kim Loftis
> Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage, by Judy Dixon
> Computers You Can Talk To: Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna 
> Dresner
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Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Esther]

hi, everyone, I just put in an order to NBP for the book. I did it online. 
Anyway, I hope those of you who are having trouble have luck soon. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I just call them, charge order to Visa, and BINGO! It comes to my door. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> richr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
> 
> NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> I thought some of you might want to know about this book.
> 
> 
> 
> best,
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Begin forwarded message:
> 
> 
> 
>From: Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org> >
> 
>Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
> 
>Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>  What's New in iOS 14 
> 
>  : A Guide for Blind Users By Anna Dresner In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, 
> or Word: $18.00
> 
> Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 
> 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with 
> changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, 
> significant changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage 
> includes: the App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the 
> Messages, Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and 
> visual improvements; privacy; and much more.
> 
> Order the book and read the table of contents here. 
> 
>  
> 
> Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's iOS 14 Reference Card 
> 
>  : $8.00
> 
> 
> Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here! 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Other Technology Guides
> 
> *Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in Your Life 
> 
>  , by Judy Dixon
> *Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals Direct to 
> Your Door 
> 
>  , by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
> *Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's Most 
> Popular Productivity Apps 
> 
>  , by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
> *Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding Love Online 
> 
>  , by Kim Loftis
> *Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage 
> 
>  , by Judy Dixon
> *Computers You Can Talk To 
> 
>  : Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner
> 
> *
> To order any books, send payment to:
> NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302 Or call and charge it: 
> toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160 ext 520.
> Or order any of our books online at
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html.  
> 
>  
> 
> Forward to a friend 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 

Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Ann]

Hi,

I have asked, and I was told I'd have to pay the full book price for 
each electronic format I wanted to download. This was years ago, 
however. I wonder if there policy has changed since then, but their 
shopping cart doesn't reflect this, if its true. Maybe I'll ask again, 
though.


~Ann



On 1/21/2021 11:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

~Ann,
Have you asked them about downloading other formats?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Jan 21, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Esther  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone,

I just ordered Anna Dresner's new book, What's New in iOS14!  Can't 
wait to receive it!


Take care, everyone, and be safe!

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Ann  wrote:

I love NBP. My greatest wish is that they'd let a person pay the 
book price and have access to all of that books' different electronic 
formats.


~Ann



On 1/21/2021 10:53 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Woody Anna Dresner

*Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
*To:* VIPhone Mailing List 
*Subject:* Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
Hi everyone,
I thought some of you might want to know about this book.
best,
Anna
   Begin forwarded message:
   *From: *Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org>>
   *Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users*
   *Date: *January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
   Image removed by sender. NBP logo
   


   *Image removed by sender.***
   
**Image
   removed by sender. book cover for what's new in ios 14
   
What's
   New in iOS 14
   
*:
   A Guide for Blind Users*
   By Anna Dresner
   In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00
   Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the
   new iOS 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new,
   starting with changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility
   changes, and finally, significant changes that aren't directly
   related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the App Library; new
   editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, Translate,
   Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual
   improvements; privacy; and much more.
   Order the book and read the table of contents here.
   

   Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's*iOS 14 Reference Card
   
:*
 $8.00
   */Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!/
   
*
   *Other Technology Guides*
 * Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in
   Your Life
   
,
   by Judy Dixon
 * Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals
   Direct to Your Door
   
,
   by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
 * Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's
   Most Popular Productivity Apps
   
,
   by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
 * Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding
   Love Online
   
,
 by
   Kim Loftis
 * Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage
   
,
 by
   Judy Dixon
 * Computers You Can Talk To
   
:
   Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner
   

Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Looking at the site you can order the book in Word format as well as DAISY and 
electronic Braille so I would think it can be ordered internationally.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Jan 2021, at 16:31, Richard Turner  wrote:
>  ~Ann,
> Have you asked them about downloading other formats? 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>  Hi, Everyone,
>> 
>> I just ordered Anna Dresner's new book, What's New in iOS14!  Can't wait to 
>> receive it!
>> 
>> Take care, everyone, and be safe!
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Ann  wrote:
>>> I love NBP. My greatest wish is that they'd let a person pay the book 
>>> price and have access to all of that books' different electronic formats.
>>> 
>>> ~Ann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/21/2021 10:53 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
 *Woody Anna Dresner
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
 *To:* VIPhone Mailing List 
 *Subject:* Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
 Hi everyone,
 I thought some of you might want to know about this book.
 best,
 Anna
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org>>
*Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users*
*Date: *January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
Image removed by sender. NBP logo

 
*Image removed by sender.***

 **Image
removed by sender. book cover for what's new in ios 14

 What's
New in iOS 14

 *:
A Guide for Blind Users*
By Anna Dresner
In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00
Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the
new iOS 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new,
starting with changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility
changes, and finally, significant changes that aren't directly
related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the App Library; new
editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, Translate,
Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual
improvements; privacy; and much more.
Order the book and read the table of contents here.

 
Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's*iOS 14 Reference Card

 :*
  $8.00
*/Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!/

 *
*Other Technology Guides*
  * Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in
Your Life

 ,
by Judy Dixon
  * Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals
Direct to Your Door

 ,
by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
  * Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's
Most Popular Productivity Apps

 ,
by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
  * Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding
Love Online

 ,
  by
Kim Loftis
  * Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage

 

Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Richard Turner]

~Ann,
Have you asked them about downloading other formats?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 21, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Esther  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone,

I just ordered Anna Dresner's new book, What's New in iOS14!  Can't wait to 
receive it!

Take care, everyone, and be safe!

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Ann  wrote:

I love NBP. My greatest wish is that they'd let a person pay the book price 
and have access to all of that books' different electronic formats.

~Ann



On 1/21/2021 10:53 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
*Woody Anna Dresner
*Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
*To:* VIPhone Mailing List 
*Subject:* Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
Hi everyone,
I thought some of you might want to know about this book.
best,
Anna
   Begin forwarded message:
   *From: *Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org>>
   *Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users*
   *Date: *January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
   Image removed by sender. NBP logo
   


   *Image removed by sender.***
   
**Image
   removed by sender. book cover for what's new in ios 14
   
What's
   New in iOS 14
   
*:
   A Guide for Blind Users*
   By Anna Dresner
   In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00
   Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the
   new iOS 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new,
   starting with changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility
   changes, and finally, significant changes that aren't directly
   related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the App Library; new
   editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, Translate,
   Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual
   improvements; privacy; and much more.
   Order the book and read the table of contents here.
   

   Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's*iOS 14 Reference Card
   
:*
 $8.00
   */Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!/
   
*
   *Other Technology Guides*
 * Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in
   Your Life
   
,
   by Judy Dixon
 * Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals
   Direct to Your Door
   
,
   by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
 * Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's
   Most Popular Productivity Apps
   
,
   by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
 * Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding
   Love Online
   
,
 by
   Kim Loftis
 * Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage
   
,
 by
   Judy Dixon
 * Computers You Can Talk To
   
:
   Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner
   *
   To order any books, send payment to:
   NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302
   Or call and charge it: toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160
   ext 520.
   Or order any of our books online at
   http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html.
   

Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Esther]

Hi, Everyone,

I just ordered Anna Dresner's new book, What's New in iOS14!  Can't wait to 
receive it!

Take care, everyone, and be safe!

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> I love NBP. My greatest wish is that they'd let a person pay the book price 
> and have access to all of that books' different electronic formats.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1/21/2021 10:53 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Woody Anna Dresner
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
>> *To:* VIPhone Mailing List 
>> *Subject:* Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
>> Hi everyone,
>> I thought some of you might want to know about this book.
>> best,
>> Anna
>>Begin forwarded message:
>>*From: *Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org>>
>>*Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users*
>>*Date: *January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
>>Image removed by sender. NBP logo
>>
>> 
>>
>>*Image removed by sender.***
>>
>> **Image
>>removed by sender. book cover for what's new in ios 14
>>
>> What's
>>New in iOS 14
>>
>> *:
>>A Guide for Blind Users*
>>By Anna Dresner
>>In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00
>>Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the
>>new iOS 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new,
>>starting with changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility
>>changes, and finally, significant changes that aren't directly
>>related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the App Library; new
>>editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, Translate,
>>Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual
>>improvements; privacy; and much more.
>>Order the book and read the table of contents here.
>>
>> 
>>Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's*iOS 14 Reference Card
>>
>> :*
>>  $8.00
>>*/Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!/
>>
>> *
>>*Other Technology Guides*
>>  * Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in
>>Your Life
>>
>> ,
>>by Judy Dixon
>>  * Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals
>>Direct to Your Door
>>
>> ,
>>by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
>>  * Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's
>>Most Popular Productivity Apps
>>
>> ,
>>by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
>>  * Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding
>>Love Online
>>
>> ,
>>  by
>>Kim Loftis
>>  * Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage
>>
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Re: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Ann]

I love NBP. My greatest wish is that they'd let a person pay the book 
price and have access to all of that books' different electronic formats.


~Ann



On 1/21/2021 10:53 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Woody Anna Dresner

*Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
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*Subject:* Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

Hi everyone,

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

best,

Anna



Begin forwarded message:

*From: *Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org>>

*Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users*

*Date: *January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST

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What's
New in iOS 14

*:
A Guide for Blind Users*
By Anna Dresner
In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00

Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the
new iOS 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new,
starting with changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility
changes, and finally, significant changes that aren't directly
related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the App Library; new
editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, Translate,
Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual
improvements; privacy; and much more.

Order the book and read the table of contents here.



Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's*iOS 14 Reference Card

:*
 $8.00

*/Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!/

*

*Other Technology Guides*

  * Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in
Your Life

,
by Judy Dixon
  * Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals
Direct to Your Door

,
by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
  * Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's
Most Popular Productivity Apps

,
by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
  * Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding
Love Online

,
 by
Kim Loftis
  * Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage

,
 by
Judy Dixon
  * Computers You Can Talk To

:
Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner

*
To order any books, send payment to:
NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302
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RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[CJ & AA MAY]

Is this available in the UK? When I got my first iPhone I found Anna’s book so 
useful and it has held me in good stead over the years but it does look like I 
should become more familiar with some of the newer features.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: 21 January 2021 15:30
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

 

Hi everyone,

 

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

 

best,

Anna

 





Begin forwarded message:

 

From: Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org> >

Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST

 




 

 



 



  
 




 

  

  

  

 What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
By Anna Dresner
In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00

Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 14 
operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with changes 
to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, significant 
changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the 
App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, 
Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual 
improvements; privacy; and much more.

 

 Order the book and read the table of contents here.

Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's  

 iOS 14 Reference Card: $8.00
 

 

 Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!

 

Other Technology Guides

*

 Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in Your Life, by 
Judy Dixon
*

 Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals Direct to Your 
Door, by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
*

 Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's Most Popular 
Productivity Apps, by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
*

 Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding Love Online, by 
Kim Loftis
*

 Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage, by Judy Dixon
*

 Computers You Can Talk To: Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna 
Dresner

*
To order any books, send payment to:
NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302
Or call and charge it: toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160 ext 520.
Or order any of our books online at
 

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RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Ann Byrne]

I find it very easy to work with.
At 09:53 AM 1/21/2021, you wrote:


NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users



Hi everyone,



I thought some of you might want to know about this book.



best,

Anna





Begin forwarded message:



From: Tony Grima <agr...@nbp.org>

Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST




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Image removed by sender. book cover for what's new in ios 14
What's 
New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

By Anna Dresner
In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00

Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your 
iDevice updated with the new iOS 14 operating 
system, and then walks you through what's new, 
starting with changes to VoiceOver, then other 
accessibility changes, and finally, significant 
changes that aren't directly related to 
accessibility. Coverage includes: the App 
Library; new editing options; widgets; new 
features in the Messages, Translate, Health, 
Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and 
visual improvements; privacy; and much more.


Order 
the book and read the table of contents here.


Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's 
iOS 
14 Reference Card: $8.00



Keep 
up-to-date on all of our technology books here!




Other Technology Guides
Identifying 
and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in Your Life, by Judy Dixon
Dinner 
Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive 
Meals Direct to Your Door, by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
Getting 
Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of 
Google's Most Popular Productivity Apps, by Lisa 
Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
Dating 
in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for 
Finding Love Online, by Kim Loftis
Drop 
into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage, by Judy Dixon
Computers 
You Can Talk To: Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner

*
To order any books, send payment to:
NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302
Or call and charge it: toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160 ext 520.
Or order any of our books online at
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html. 



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RE: [External] RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Cook, Steve]

I have not had any issues.

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951
[SCCB_logoblue]
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

Hi everyone,

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

best,
Anna


Begin forwarded message:

From: Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org>>
Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST

[Image removed by sender. NBP 
logo]

[Image removed by sender.]
[Image removed by sender. book cover for what's new in ios 
14]What's
 New in iOS 
14:
 A Guide for Blind Users
By Anna Dresner
In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00

Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 14 
operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with changes 
to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, significant 
changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the 
App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, 
Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual 
improvements; privacy; and much more.

Order the book and read the table of contents 
here.

Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's iOS 14 Reference 
Card:
 $8.00

Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books 
here!

RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Carolyn]

I just call them, charge order to Visa, and BINGO! It comes to my door. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

 

Hi everyone,

 

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

 

best,

Anna

 





Begin forwarded message:

 

From: Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org> >

Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST

 

 

 



 




  

  

 What's New in iOS 14 

 : A Guide for Blind Users By Anna Dresner In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or 
Word: $18.00

Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 14 
operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with changes 
to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, significant 
changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the 
App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, 
Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual 
improvements; privacy; and much more.

Order the book and read the table of contents here. 

 

Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's iOS 14 Reference Card 

 : $8.00
 

Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here! 

 

 

Other Technology Guides

*   Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in Your Life 

 , by Judy Dixon
*   Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals Direct to 
Your Door 

 , by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
*   Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's Most 
Popular Productivity Apps 

 , by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
*   Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding Love 
Online 

 , by Kim Loftis
*   Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage 

 , by Judy Dixon
*   Computers You Can Talk To 

 : Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner

*
To order any books, send payment to:
NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302 Or call and charge it: 
toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160 ext 520.
Or order any of our books online at
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html.  

 

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RE: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[richring]

NBP is a true pain in the butt to try to purchase from!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:30 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

 

Hi everyone,

 

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

 

best,

Anna

 





Begin forwarded message:

 

From: Tony Grima mailto:agr...@nbp.org> >

Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST

 




 

 



 








 

  

  

  

 What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
By Anna Dresner
In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00

Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 14 
operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with changes 
to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, significant 
changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage includes: the 
App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the Messages, 
Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and visual 
improvements; privacy; and much more.

 

 Order the book and read the table of contents here.

Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's  

 iOS 14 Reference Card: $8.00
 

 

 Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here!

 

Other Technology Guides

*

 Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in Your Life, by 
Judy Dixon
*

 Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals Direct to Your 
Door, by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
*

 Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's Most Popular 
Productivity Apps, by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
*

 Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding Love Online, by 
Kim Loftis
*

 Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage, by Judy Dixon
*

 Computers You Can Talk To: Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna 
Dresner

*
To order any books, send payment to:
NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302
Or call and charge it: toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160 ext 520.
Or order any of our books online at
 

 http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html. 




Forward to a friend 

  


 

 

  

  

 





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Boston, MA  02115


 

 Add us to your address book



 

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Fwd: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi everyone,

I thought some of you might want to know about this book.

best,
Anna


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Tony Grima 
> Subject: What's New in iOS 14: A Guide for Blind Users
> Date: January 21, 2021 at 8:14:57 AM CST
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> What's
>  New in iOS 14 
> :
>  A Guide for Blind Users
> By Anna Dresner
> In Braille (1 vol.), BRF, DAISY, or Word: $18.00
> 
> Anna Dresner starts by helping you get your iDevice updated with the new iOS 
> 14 operating system, and then walks you through what's new, starting with 
> changes to VoiceOver, then other accessibility changes, and finally, 
> significant changes that aren't directly related to accessibility. Coverage 
> includes: the App Library; new editing options; widgets; new features in the 
> Messages, Translate, Health, Siri, and Calendar apps; app clips; audio and 
> visual improvements; privacy; and much more.
> 
> Order the book and read the table of contents here. 
> 
> 
> Also new and now available: Anna Dresner's iOS 14 Reference Card 
> :
>  $8.00
>  
> Keep up-to-date on all of our technology books here! 
> 
>  
> Other Technology Guides
> Identifying and Labeling Everything: Recognizing the Items in Your Life 
> ,
>  by Judy Dixon
> Dinner Delivered: Accessible and Easy Ways to Receive Meals Direct to Your 
> Door 
> ,
>  by Kim Loftis and Chris Grabowski
> Getting Started with Google Suite: A Brief Overview of Google's Most Popular 
> Productivity Apps 
> ,
>  by Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski
> Dating in the Digital Age: An Accessible Journey for Finding Love Online 
> ,
>  by Kim Loftis
> Drop into Dropbox: It's So Much More than File Storage 
> ,
>  by Judy Dixon
> Computers You Can Talk To 
> :
>  Siri, Alexa, Google Now, and Cortana, by Anna Dresner
> *
> To order any books, send payment to:
> NBP, 88 St. Stephen Street, Boston, MA 02115-4302
> Or call and charge it: toll-free (800) 548-7323 or (617) 266-6160 ext 520.
> Or order any of our books online at
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html.  
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iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

Please help me decide.

I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad
Mini or iPad Air 2020.

It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.

Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which
is available in iPad Air?

I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.

Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Re: Identifying barcodes

[Arlene]

That gives me more understanding, Donna, thank you, that was something I 
didn't know. It's just after all this time, and it seems so tremendous being 
able to read cooking directions with the bar codes which is really great, I 
started thinking how something was so missing, and that was the experation 
dates. Thanks again.
- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Casteen" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes


Also expiration dates are stamped on products not printed. There is times in 
which the ink smears, the writing has faded. Until it is mandated that 
expiration dates be placed on an item, on the same spot for all products & a 
better expiration date is adopted, there is no way for a blind person to be 
able to read the expiration dates on products.


Donna



Sadly, I do not think you will ever see expiration dates in barcones. 
Barcodes identify the general product, not that individual package. But 
you would probably have to contact the manufacturer to find out if 
something could be done. According to my wife, there is little consistancy 
of placement of expiration dates and it is hard for even sighted people to 
find them.



Richard

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when I was young."

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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Jan 20, 2021, at 3:38 AM, Ann  wrote:

hmm, you know, as for Seeing AI, I don't think I've ever seen expiration 
dates for anything listed in the bar code info.


~Ann




On 1/20/2021 4:15 AM, Arlene wrote:
I do hope supersense and other ocr apps eventually can read experation 
dates which is quite important. I don't know if there's some sort of 
technical reason why experation dates can't be read, but I hope that's 
something that can be worked out.

- Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes

Hi all,
I also wanted to elaborate on Supersense a bit. We're working on
adding cooking directions, since that is a crucial set of information
that can be obtained with a little cross-research after identifying a
barcode.
I've also noticed that from my personal experience, Supersense tends
to recognize more products in my pantry than the other apps I've
tried.

On 1/19/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:

It will give you whatever info is contained within the bar code.

Andy

 - Original Message -
 From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 7:15 AM
 Subject: RE: Identifying barcodes


 Will Seeing AI give you directions for cooking in addition to just
identifying the product?  This is a feature I heavily use on my 
barcode

scanner (galaxy).



 Pam





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of

Holly
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes



 Don:



 Seeing A I has improved their bar code scanner, and it is quite good.



 It is also free.



 Super
 Sense is also pretty good, but it is a paid app.

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Re: Identifying barcodes

[Arlene]

Richard, I've heard from my sister and sighted friends that the print is 
really tiny for the experation dates. While I wouldn't mind writing to the 
different companies that do ocr, whether it be apps or computer ocr, maybe 
I'm asking a question that doesn't make sense in a way, actually I don't 
know how to put my questioning, sorry about that, but is there some 
technical reason that you know of that  the experation dates don't come up 
in the scanning? I mean experation dates are just as important as cooking 
directions on a box, well in the samecatagory of importantance. Sorry if I'm 
not making sense. I do want to think you for giving it a try as far as 
seeing if you could get the experation date, I think that may have been 
about 2 or 3 weeks or so when it last came up.
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Sadly, I do not think you will ever see expiration dates in barcones. 
Barcodes identify the general product, not that individual package. But you 
would probably have to contact the manufacturer to find out if something 
could be done. According to my wife, there is little consistancy of 
placement of expiration dates and it is hard for even sighted people to find 
them.



Richard

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On Jan 20, 2021, at 3:38 AM, Ann  wrote:

hmm, you know, as for Seeing AI, I don't think I've ever seen expiration 
dates for anything listed in the bar code info.


~Ann




On 1/20/2021 4:15 AM, Arlene wrote:
I do hope supersense and other ocr apps eventually can read experation 
dates which is quite important. I don't know if there's some sort of 
technical reason why experation dates can't be read, but I hope that's 
something that can be worked out.

- Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Identifying barcodes

Hi all,
I also wanted to elaborate on Supersense a bit. We're working on
adding cooking directions, since that is a crucial set of information
that can be obtained with a little cross-research after identifying a
barcode.
I've also noticed that from my personal experience, Supersense tends
to recognize more products in my pantry than the other apps I've
tried.

On 1/19/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:

It will give you whatever info is contained within the bar code.

Andy

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  Will Seeing AI give you directions for cooking in addition to just
identifying the product?  This is a feature I heavily use on my barcode
scanner (galaxy).



  Pam





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  Don:



  Seeing A I has improved their bar code scanner, and it is quite good.



  It is also free.



  Super
  Sense is also pretty good, but it is a paid app.

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