Re: mistake

[Janet Bell]

ok so got the app but for some reason I can't create an account I get 
the username and password but the two parts where you accept stuff 
haven't got check or uncheck on them so what do I do.  Janet


On 08/02/2021 15:46, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Yes, Richard also posted the app description and I believe the link. It should 
be clear from the app description that you have the correct app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not sure 
what it has to do with a microphone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Anthony Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter additional 
temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual Temperature" 
and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Janet Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo?
thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon
Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak 

Selecting multiple photos

['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

when using whats ap I used to be able to select multiple photos then either 
share with a friend or put on facebook.  Now no matter what I try I can only 
select 1 photo at a time so i'm wondering if perhapsselecting multiple photos 
is now not possible or if the way to do this has now changed.  Any info on this 
would be much appreciated.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Now now kids,

We all make mistakes,

And yes the information was there from the answer given.

Lets all just chill out and behave,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2021 5:57 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi rena,

If your mother can see the screen then  there is a line / arrow that shows 
where / how to swipe
Across to either answer or hang up the call.
Sorry but that’s the best I can give you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2021 3:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hello,

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

Thank you for any help,

Rena
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

This may sound silly, but the reference to “light dependent” threw me at first. 
 I guess I am just not used to using all of the substitute names for sighted 
people that seem to get used.

I do agree that Richard’s information was helpful, however.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@outlook.com
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

In addition to asking how a sighted person would answer a phone call on an 
iPhone, rena also said “I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I 
changed my 6S for the SE and gave her the 6S to her.” So I thought Richard’s 
information was right on point. Plus if Brad wanted to just highlight the one 
piece of information Richard already included in his email about answering a 
call, he could have done it with something more constructive and accurate than 
“all the references in Richard’s instructions to various VoiceOver gestures are 
irrelevant.”

Just my $0.02.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to 

AT suspending service to number when inserting SIM card into older phone

[Vicky Collins]

Has anyone ever had this happen before? I'm not sure whether it was just a 
technical glitch or if it could happen again or what, as I never got a straight 
answer from the person I did the online chat with at AT

As I've mentioned previously, since my only internet is on my phones or via 
personal hotspot with my phones, and I can only backup my iPhones to iCloud 
using my Nokia 6 Android phone, I proceeded to put my SIM card in that Nokia 6 
and backup one of my phones yesterday. But, this time, although I tried several 
times after enabling the hotspot feature on the Nokia, I just couldn't seem to 
get the backup on the iPhone to complete. I then finally noticed a message on 
my Android phone, a free message from AT that said something like: 7535 AT 
free msg. We're always looking for ways to connect you to what you love faster 
than ever before. That's why we are taking steps to upgrade our network. We're 
sorry but the phone you recently tried to activate won't work. Don't worry. We 
can help you upgrade at att_com/upgradehelp. Retiring 3G network.

I then removed the SIM card from that phone and put it back in my iPhone 7, but 
I could no longer make calls or access the internet with that SIM, not even 
when I put it in my iPhone SE 2020 and gave it a try.

Using my other phone line, it took me a bit to look around in the My AT app 
and online at their web site to finally find the message that that particular 
phone line had been suspended due to an unknown phone, and that I either needed 
to give AT a call or do a chat with them to get things resolved, so I opted 
for the online chat.

It took a bit of time, but my phone line got reactivated, he told me he would 
waive the $30 activation fee, and then he told me something like to not remove 
the SIM card again or it would stop my service again. When I pressed him about 
always being able to move the SIM between my phones in the past and that I 
needed to use the Nokia phone to do the iCloud backups for my iPhones and that 
I had other iPhones that I would also use from time to time, he said he would 
check further and then told me I could swap my SIM and use it with my Nokia 6. 
I haven't yet tried the Nokia again, though, not wanting to risk that just yet. 
Oh, and while he told me it could take up to a half hour to reactivate the 
number, it was actually done within about five minutes and I was able to use 
the same SIM card, although I was afraid I would have to wait and have them 
send me a new one.

In case anyone is interested, I'll paste a copy of the chat I had below, and 
I've hopefully removed all of my account information. Also, if some of this 
doesn't appear to read quite correctly, it could be because I've opted to open 
the message containing the copy of the chat on my U2 Mini and all the line 
breaks and things may not have transferred over:

Reference Number: 731940635884434720 
DATE/TIME: 2021-02-08 07:05:15 
Your chat transcript:
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE - All replies are automatically deleted.
AT : Hi, I'm AT's automated virtual assistant. How can I help you today? 
Me : I need to reactivate my xxx number that got suspended because of an 
unknown device. I'm guessing it happened because I, as I have done many times 
before, put the SIM card in my Nokia 6 so I could use the hotspot service on 
that device to backup my Apple devices to iCloud. 
AT : 
We found the following information which could be helpful:
How do I transfer my number to a new phone?

Me : That did xxx help in this case. 
AT : 
Hmmm. Could you rephrase your question? Virtual Assistants understand simple 
questions best.

Me : I need to get the suspension lifted from my device. 
AT : 
Choose a topic to chat about: 
Billing, usage, plans & device settings
Payments
Troubleshooting & repairs
Online account & sign-in help
International support
Shopping
Order status

Me : Billing, usage, plans & device settings 
AT : 
Please tell us your first name.
Me : Vicky 
AT : 
Thank y.. You will now be connected to a specialist for account support.
Roy : Hi! My name is Roy. I'm happy to help! Please give me a moment to review 
your request. 
Roy : I am Happy to have you on the chat, I will help you with your concern. 
Me : Thank you so much. 
Roy : To make sure I have the most accurate information for you today, I'm 
going to ask a few quick questions. 
Me : Okay. 
Roy : Are you logged onto your account? 
Me : Yes. 
Roy : Can I get your permission to access your online account? 
Me : Sure, yes. 
Roy : Thank you, Vicky 
Me : You're welcome. 
Roy : Let me quickly pull your account. 
Me : Okay. 
Roy : Sure, I will help you with the reactivate the line. 
Me : Thanks.. 
Roy : You're welcome. 
Roy : Meanwhile I am working on it, As a friendly How was your weekend? 
Me : Just fine, thanks. Yours? 
Roy : Good with friends. 
Roy : Could you please confirm me the line number of the reactivation device? 
Me : removed number 
Roy : Thanks for the info! 
Me : Sure, I had to go 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[chalt...@outlook.com]

In addition to asking how a sighted person would answer a phone call on an 
iPhone, rena also said “I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I 
changed my 6S for the SE and gave her the 6S to her.” So I thought Richard’s 
information was right on point. Plus if Brad wanted to just highlight the one 
piece of information Richard already included in his email about answering a 
call, he could have done it with something more constructive and accurate than 
“all the references in Richard’s instructions to various VoiceOver gestures are 
irrelevant.”

Just my $0.02.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe 

RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

NO.
You have to point the thermometer at your forehead, keeping it about one half 
inch from your skin and move it over to your temple maintaining the same 
distance.
Then, the results show up on the app on your iPhone.
Sieghard posted very good information about the technique.
Here is the important part of his post:
It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move from 
the middle of your forehead to your temple.
Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my forehead to 
my temple counting 2. After the second vibration I put the thermometer down and 
wrote the following:
"It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready and 
the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move from the 
middle of your forehead to your temple."
3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following notification:
Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM And for those who use 
these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 98.96 degrees I also just 
repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this time I counted how long 
it took for the notification to pop up and it was around 26 seconds, seemed the 
first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result this time was 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 
degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 degrees Fahrenheit.

Best regards,
Sieghard

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi 

do I have to point the iphone to my forhead to read the body temperature. 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 08 February 2021 16:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not 
> sure what it has to do with a microphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
> January 17th, 2021.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.
> apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fwithings-thermo%2Fid1108420798data=04%7C01
> %7C%7C5ffef956317e42a71fec08d8cc5e6f23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
> aaa%7C1%7C0%7C637484053259728401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
> jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata
> =%2B%2F%2BhnIjZYTIiPTj5ytOedm0f5vURwTihP%2BkEeNitfco%3Dreserved=0
> Description
> The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
> use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app 
> automatically syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. 
> Each user can then view a complete history of temperature readings on their 
> timeline.
>
> To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to 
> each reading:
>
> Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
> symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to 
> your doctor.
>
> Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
> understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
> more.
>
> Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature 
> or illness.
>
> Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
> gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.
>
> The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:
>
> Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at 

RE: mistake

[Anthony Borg]

Hi 

do I have to point the iphone to my forhead to read the body temperature. 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 08 February 2021 16:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not 
> sure what it has to do with a microphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
> January 17th, 2021.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
> Description
> The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
> use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app 
> automatically syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. 
> Each user can then view a complete history of temperature readings on their 
> timeline.
>
> To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to 
> each reading:
>
> Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
> symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to 
> your doctor.
>
> Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
> understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
> more.
>
> Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature 
> or illness.
>
> Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
> gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.
>
> The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:
>
> Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
> or in specific time increments.
>
> Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
> additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
> Temperature" and add your details.
>
> Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all 
> your health data in one place for easier health tracking.
>
> If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the 
> severity of your fever.
>
> Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
> temperature and symptoms
>
> Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
> ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as 
> well as advice on proper medications and dosages.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mistake
>
> Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? 
> thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon  
> Janet
>
> On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
>> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
>> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
>> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty 
>> much everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: mistake
>>
>> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
>> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
>> Description
>> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>>
>> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>>
>>
>> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. 
>> See the beautiful graphs and stats.
>>
>>
>> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
>> Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
>> diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
>> any medical decisions.
>>
>>
>> * You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if 
>> you did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Richard Turner]

Got it.
You and I have a very different way of approaching these things, and since 
there is no absolutes here, lets just end this one.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Brad Snyder]

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner  wrote:


OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner  wrote:


Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”
 
Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.
 
 
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.
 
Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

 
On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

['Nancy Badger' via VIPhone]

To answer a call you push the green button near the bottom of the screen or you 
slide the button that says answer.
To end a call you push the red button near the bottom of the screen I think it 
looks like a phone receiver.
Nancy

Nancy Badger

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
 
I hope that helps!
 
Take care and stay safe!
 
Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hello,
 
I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.
 
Thank you for any help,
 
Rena
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Richard Turner]

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Barbara Stahl]

Take a look at the list again after the voiceover gestures you will see light 
dependent gesture that is a gesture you would use if voiceover were turned off

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering 
> the phone without voiceover enabled.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
> The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
> double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
> the answer button.”
>  
> Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as 
> light dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
> And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother 
> who has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
> needing to be able to explain to her mother.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
>  
> since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
> without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
> VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is 
> disabled.
>  
> Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
> locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
> one-finger slide action from left to right.
> To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call 
> button, usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, 
> and perform a one-finger tap on the button.
> That’s all there is to it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
>  
> Thank you Debby for posting this.
> Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
>  
> Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
>  
> * VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
> Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
> the end call button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
>  
> * VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger 
> triple tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
>  
> * VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
> Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
>  
> * selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light 
> Dependent Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they 
> will see a word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left 
> of the word and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the 
> word, with the options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more 
> text, touch one of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the 
> pin and when they have selected what they want, lift their finger and the 
> copy, lookup, or share options will appear.  tap the one they want and go 
> from there.
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
>  
> Hi Rena,
>  
> Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
> us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
>  
> * VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
> gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
> the end call button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
>  
> * VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger 
> triple tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
>  
>  
> I hope that helps!
>  
> 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Brad Snyder]

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner  wrote:


Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”
 
Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.
 
 
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.
 
Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

 
On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
 
I hope that helps!
 
Take care and stay safe!
 
Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hello,
 
I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.
 
Thank you for any help,
 
Rena
-- 
The following 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Richard Turner]

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, "* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button."

Perhaps you don't get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard's instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That's all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.


I hope that helps!

Take care and stay safe!

Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Brad Snyder]

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -


On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
 
I hope that helps!
 
Take care and stay safe!
 
Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hello,
 
I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.
 
Thank you for any help,
 
Rena
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Re: Beets Blu bathroom scale app

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Thank Deb,

This is very disappointing as it’s a great product.This sucks!  What 
replacements are people recommending?

Kim

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> I unfortunately don't think you'll hear from them but will be very 
> interested if you do. They haven't updated that site in years, the highest 
> iPhone model it lists is the 6+. Their Amazon link goes to an out of stock 
> item. So I truly think they're no longer supporting the scale. When I replace 
> my phone, I assume I will no longer have it. So definitely let us know if you 
> hear something from them.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Beets Blu bathroom scale app
> 
> I found the Beets Blu site.  It’s www.beetsblu.com.  Duh.  I wrote to 
> customer support and Now I’ll wait.  That would so suck if I needed to 
> replace it because of an obsolete app.  Supposedly it’s possible to pair it 
> with the IOS health app but I don’t find how.
> 
> Thanks for your responses.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Robert stigile  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I have the scale and I had it paired with my phone at one time and now it 
>> doesn’t seem to pair. I’m thinking it might be the iOS because it was paired 
>> with iOS 12 and now it won’t pair with iOS 14 sell something to do with the 
>> scale I think.
>> 
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando 
>> Valley Chapter
>> 818-381-9568
>> 
>> 
 On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:50 AM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having trouble with the Renpho Bluetooth scale hpairing with the app 
>>> on my iPhone. Has anyone successfully paired this phone? Any tips would be 
>>> appreciated. Also I would appreciate knowing what accessible scale you 
>>> bought.
>>> Thanks very much.
>>> Terrie Terlau
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Peter Logan
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Beets Blu bathroom scale app
>>> 
>>> Ran into the same thing about three months ago… Ended up buying a new 
>>> scale…
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhome.
>>> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 12:29 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I’ve had this scale for several years but have not used it for about a 
 year.  This morning I discovered that my app is out dated and no longer in 
 the app store.  I’ve been looking for the Beets Blu  site on Google with 
 no luck and then I discovered an app with the same name (samrt scale) in 
 the app store but it is not accessible.
 
 
 So, after all of this I’m wondering if anyone else is using this scale and 
 if so what have you done about the app issue?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Kim
 
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Richard Turner]

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.


I hope that helps!

Take care and stay safe!

Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hello,

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

Thank you for any help,

Rena
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Withings Thermo app link and description

[Richard Turner]

Here is the info in its own thread to avoid getting lost in the Mistake thread.

Withings Thermo:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798

Description

The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.



To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:



Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.



Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.



Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.



Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.



The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:



Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.



Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
Temperature" and add your details.



Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.



If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.



Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms



Ask Thermia(tm): An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
Thermia(tm) provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as 
well as advice on proper medications and dosages.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



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RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, Richard also posted the app description and I believe the link. It should 
be clear from the app description that you have the correct app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not 
> sure what it has to do with a microphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
> January 17th, 2021.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
> Description
> The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
> use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app 
> automatically syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. 
> Each user can then view a complete history of temperature readings on their 
> timeline.
>
> To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to 
> each reading:
>
> Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
> symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to 
> your doctor.
>
> Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
> understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
> more.
>
> Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature 
> or illness.
>
> Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
> gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.
>
> The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:
>
> Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
> or in specific time increments.
>
> Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
> additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
> Temperature" and add your details.
>
> Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all 
> your health data in one place for easier health tracking.
>
> If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the 
> severity of your fever.
>
> Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
> temperature and symptoms
>
> Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
> ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as 
> well as advice on proper medications and dosages.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mistake
>
> Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? 
> thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon  
> Janet
>
> On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
>> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
>> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
>> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty 
>> much everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: mistake
>>
>> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
>> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
>> Description
>> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>>
>> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>>
>>
>> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. 
>> See the beautiful graphs and stats.
>>
>>
>> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
>> Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
>> diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
>> any medical decisions.
>>
>>
>> * You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if 
>> you did, VoiceOver 

Re: mistake

[Janet Bell]

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not sure 
what it has to do with a microphone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter additional 
temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual Temperature" 
and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd18d7bed941f4b570ed608d8cac3af51%7
C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482289091189310%7CUnkno

RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It probably asked to allow it to use the microphone which many apps do. I 
haven't cchecked, but it's of course possible that you can enable SIRI 
shortcuts or something like that. I wouldn't worry about it, just let it access 
the microphone and all will be well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake

The only reason why I asked you because, when I opened it, it asked me to turn 
on microphone. 
Thanks once again. 
Anthony   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 20:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thermometers, was RE: mistake

I do not have it as yet, but it shows the results in the app on your Apple 
device and VoiceOver reads it.
It does not speak itself.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> So are you saying that this thermometer doesn't speak?
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> 
> Yes, that should be the one, we bought ours at least 4 or 5 years ago so I'm 
> sure maybe it has been updated slightly, but ours has worked reliably this 
> entire time and I am actually not sure if I ever changed the batteries. O f 
> course there are times when I may only use it once or twice a year, but each 
> time if I take it out of my drawer, remove the protective cap and press the 
> button it vibrates which is the signal that it's ready, I then move it from 
> the middle of my forehead to my temple, it vibrates again indicating it took 
> the reading. At that point the reading is displayed on the little LCD screen, 
> I then just put the cap back on and put it back in the drawer and usually 
> about 20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification on my iPhone which includes 
> the result. I can tap on this, the Thermo app then opens and I can assign 
> that reading to myself or, if my wife used it, I can assign it to her profile 
> since she is also set up in the app. As I said, the thermometer is connected 
> to our home WiFi so if I get a new phone I only download the app (or it gets 
> transferred if I use the quick transfer method to set up my new phone from my 
> old), I just have to sign into the app again and it all works.
> It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
> it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
> away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
> recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
> way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's 
> ready and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should 
> move from the middle of your forehead to your temple.
> Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
> did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
> 1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my 
> forehead to my temple counting 2. After the second vibration I put the 
> thermometer down and wrote the following:
> "It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
> and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move 
> from the middle of your forehead to your temple."
> 3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
> was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following 
> notification:
> Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM And for 
> those who use these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 98.96 
> degrees I also just repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this 
> time I counted how long it took for the notification to pop up and it was 
> around 26 seconds, seemed the first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result 
> this time was 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 
> degrees Fahrenheit.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> At Amazon, Withings Thermo - smart Temporal Thermometer, is $99.  Is that the 
> one you have?
> It takes 2 triple A batteries, included.  I suspect they last quite a 

RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not sure 
what it has to do with a microphone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard 

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
Temperature" and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
> everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
> Description
> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>
> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>
>
> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
> the beautiful graphs and stats.
>
>
> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
> Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
> diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
> any medical decisions.
>
>
> * You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if 
> you did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.
>
> Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
> required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd18d7bed941f4b570ed608d8cac3af51%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482289091189310%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> 

RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have received Sonos surveys a lot when I was part of the Beta program and as 
long as all questions were answered I usually had not problems completing the 
survey. Did you look around the screen to make sure you had no messages about 
an item you forgot?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

Hello Sieghard
On that point: I received an email from Sonos asking me to take part in a 
survey. I answered the questions and then there was an edit field for a further 
comment where I pointed out that I am a bit disappointed with the support 
system of Sonos. Unfortunately nothing happened when I tried to activate the 
submit button, so I suppose I have more ground for my view that there support 
is not up to standard for a company selling such excellent products.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

I would, however, point out that one should probably not use the link to email 
the CEO with basic tech support questions. I am sure that the CEO is not 
actually checking that email himself anyways or he would be doing nothing but 
reading emails all day and probably still couldn't read them all let alone 
reply!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

I went to the contact page and used the link:

Want to email our CEO, Patrick Spence, directly? Click 
here

He forwarded my note to a support person.
I was able to ask several follow-up questions by replying to that email.

Sieghard has also had good results calling them.
Call 800-680-2345
HTH,
Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two questions relating to sonos Products


Hi Richard sorry for the stray reply I didn't mean to send it privately. My 
apologies.

did you initiate support through a web form or an email address?
Interestingly you can actually duplicate favorites in My Sonos between stations 
that appear in Sonos Radio and Tune In I did that to compare to see if there 
was any difference and there is not.  I've already written to TuneIn themselves 
but will contact Sonos as well. As I said i"m curious how you initiated your 
contact. I'm assuming everything starts with web forms these days.
Robin
On 2/3/2021 8:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I cannot help with the second question as I am quite new to Sonos.
I noticed that the TuneIn issue is that Sonos is tied to the regular TuneIn not 
even the TuneIn pro app.
I have TuneIn Pro from the days when they would let you record shows even 
without paying for premium. So, my long list of favorite stations are in TuneIn 
Pro. When I got the Sonos speakers, none of those favorites were there.
I downloaded the regular TuneIn, added a few favorites, and wala, they showed 
up on Sonos.
And yes, it seems that Sonos Radio either overlaps with TuneIn, or actually 
moves them from TuneIn into the Sonos favorites.
I do not have TuneIn Premium, but if I were you I would use airplay to send 
TuneIn to the speakers to avoid the ads.
Or, if you didn't, ask Sonos what is going on. I found after writing the 
executive, who forwarded my question to someone in support, they were quite 
fast in replying to my questions when I just replied to the support email.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 3, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Robin Frost 
 wrote:

Hi,
I hope this finds all happy and well.
My first question has to do with listening to radio stations via Sonos. I’m 
curious why it is that when searching for a station many often have entries 
appearing under “SonosRadio” as well as “TuneIn.” There doesn’t seem to be any 
advantage of picking one over the other though for a while it seemed that 
picking the Sonos Radio entry 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Debby]

Hi Rena,

 

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

 

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

 

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

 

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.

 

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

 

Hello,

 

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.

I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

 

Thank you for any help,

 

Rena

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How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

[Rena]

Hello,

 

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using
voiceover.

I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the
SE and gave her the 6S to her.

 

Thank you for any help,

 

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Re: Bug in Native Weather App

[Richard Turner]

I just tried what you said.
After editing cities and adding Iron River WI, and changing to Celcius, and 
going back to my default location, everything read in Celcius. 
I then went to Iron River, and all was in Celcius. Here is Tuesday in Iron 
River:
Tuesday, Mostly clear, High -16, Low -26

Richard

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> On Feb 8, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Ran across a bug in the native weather app on my iPhone 8, iOS 14.4.  Here 
> is how it manifest:
> 
> - Naturally, opened the Weather app
> - Have the “hangover location” set to Iron River, WI.
> - Always, always have to activate “Edit Cities” and return to view all 
> pertinent data. (Not the bug  here)
> - In “Edit Cities” from Fahrenheit to Celsius.
> - Upon returning to first screen, the current temp is noted in Celsius, but 
> the daily High and Low remain in Fahrenheit.
> - This also works in the inverse process where setting the temp scale to 
> Celsius initially, the first screen will report current temp as directed, but 
> the High and Low temps remain in  the previous scale.
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
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RE: seven little words

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks, Donna, but I still don't think they were wonderful clues.
Alison


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Sent: 08 February 2021 12:35
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Subject: Re: seven little words

Here are the names of the flowers in each answer.

Everglades - ?
Masterful - Aster

> Hostage - Hosta

>  

> Upsadaisy - Daisy 

> Minimums - Mums 

> Satirists - Iris
> 

> Prosecutor - Rose

Donna

> sorry if this is a bit off topic but has anybody done the 7 little words 
> today with the theme "hidden flowers"?  if so please could you tell me some 
> of the flowers?  I can see only two.  iris and rose Janet
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Re: seven little words

[Donna Casteen]

Here are the names of the flowers in each answer.

Everglades - ?
Masterful - Aster

> Hostage - Hosta

>  

> Upsadaisy - Daisy 

> Minimums - Mums 

> Satirists - Iris
> 

> Prosecutor - Rose

Donna

> sorry if this is a bit off topic but has anybody done the 7 little words 
> today with the theme "hidden flowers"?  if so please could you tell me some 
> of the flowers?  I can see only two.  iris and rose Janet
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Bug in Native Weather App

[Bill Gallik]

Ran across a bug in the native weather app on my iPhone 8, iOS 14.4.  Here is 
how it manifest:

- Naturally, opened the Weather app
- Have the “hangover location” set to Iron River, WI.
- Always, always have to activate “Edit Cities” and return to view all 
pertinent data. (Not the bug  here)
- In “Edit Cities” from Fahrenheit to Celsius.
- Upon returning to first screen, the current temp is noted in Celsius, but the 
daily High and Low remain in Fahrenheit.
- This also works in the inverse process where setting the temp scale to 
Celsius initially, the first screen will report current temp as directed, but 
the High and Low temps remain in  the previous scale.

* * * * * * * * * * * *
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RE: Apple watch Polar compatibility?

[Simon A Fogarty]

It will depend on the tread mill,

There are a number of them these days that do work with IOS devices,
You would have to either research on line for one or talk to a sales person 
that could give you what you need to know.

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Hi,
I'm not familiar with treadmills, but I do know that polar- chest strap  heart 
rate sensors are compatible with Apple Watch.

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> Hi,
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> Does anyone know if Apple watches conform to the Polar standards for fitness 
> device e.g. treadmill compatibility.
> 
> I am trying to find out which treadmills will link to my Apple watch
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> Gary
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no emoly keyboard on the iphone with the fb app.

[davycuppens]

Hi folks 

 

I cannot have access to my emoli keyboard while typing tekst into edit
fields in the fb app, fort he rest the availability of that keyboard is
always normal on my phone. Am I the only one or is this a setting?

Davy 

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Re: seven little words

[Janet Bell]

no neither have I Alison.

On 08/02/2021 07:32, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

Yes, like Janet, I got all the answers, but could only spot a couple of flowers.
And I don't know if it is an "Americanism", but I have never heard of the term 
Upsadaisy.
Alison


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Kotsay
Sent: 08 February 2021 04:40
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Subject: Re: seven little words

Hi,
The answer to the first clue on the hidden flowers puzzle is Everglades.
The answer to the second one is masterful.
The answer to the third clue is hostage.
The answer to the fourth one is Upsadaisy.
The answer to the fifth one is minimums.
The answer to the sixth one is satirists.
The answer to the final clue is prosecutor.
I’m not sure how flowers tie into some of these, but I see how they do in 
others.  For example, in  satirists, I see the flower name Iris. In minimums, I 
see the word mums.
Hope this helps!



On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

sorry if this is a bit off topic but has anybody done the 7 little words today with 
the theme "hidden flowers"?  if so please could you tell me some of the 
flowers?  I can see only two.  iris and rose Janet

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