RE: iPhone 11 in the cold

[CJ & AA MAY]

I've never had any cold issues with my iPhone, although here in Kent we rarely 
have temperatures below zero, however, my iPhone 6S Plus cannot tolerate heat.
Alison

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 28 February 2021 23:12
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 11 in the cold

I would take it back to Apple, I have an iPhone 11 as well and live in 
northwestern British Columbia. About 2 weeks ago we had an entire week when 
temperatures were around -25 to -34 Celsius at night and -15 to -20 durinfg the 
day. I would walk to work in the morning, I had my iPhone 11 in the chest 
pocket of my down jacket or in a hip holster under the jacket, but still it 
would get quite cold and I never had any issues with it. I usually listen to an 
audio book with one ear when I walk and it never quit. But I do remember that 
many years ago I had an iPhone 6S Plus which also did not like the cold and it 
would sometimes just turn off even at -3 or -5.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 11 in the cold

Speaking of new phones, someone who works with me just got a new iPhone 11 and 
it freezes up continually when the weathers cold. So anyone else having that 
issue? With their 11s when outdoors even inborderline freezing weather? That 
sounds like either a lemon or a real drawback to that particular phone.

Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 8:58 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> Hi to all.  In a few more months
> , I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I 
> thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around 
> there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for 
> the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any 
> suggestions.
> --
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
> Joshua Hendrickson
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RE: iPhone 11 in the cold

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would take it back to Apple, I have an iPhone 11 as well and live in 
northwestern British Columbia. About 2 weeks ago we had an entire week when 
temperatures were around -25 to -34 Celsius at night and -15 to -20 durinfg the 
day. I would walk to work in the morning, I had my iPhone 11 in the chest 
pocket of my down jacket or in a hip holster under the jacket, but still it 
would get quite cold and I never had any issues with it. I usually listen to an 
audio book with one ear when I walk and it never quit. But I do remember that 
many years ago I had an iPhone 6S Plus which also did not like the cold and it 
would sometimes just turn off even at -3 or -5.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 11 in the cold

Speaking of new phones, someone who works with me just got a new iPhone 11 and 
it freezes up continually when the weathers cold. So anyone else having that 
issue? With their 11s when outdoors even inborderline freezing weather? That 
sounds like either a lemon or a real drawback to that particular phone.

Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 8:58 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> Hi to all.  In a few more months
> , I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I 
> thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around 
> there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for 
> the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any 
> suggestions.
> --
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
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RE: Surface Pro vs Ipad

[Simon A Fogarty]

I've  used both an iPad and surface pro,

 It really depends on what you are going to be doing with the device,

I've used office on both products and  can't see an issue with it on the iPad 
mind you I was mainly reading documents rather than writing to them.

If you are going to be doing anything related to enterprise  work then windows 
would be the way to go,

If you just want it for personal home useage  then I wouldn't look at the 
surface pro,
Just look at the surface,
 Smaller but do the same thing just lower specs and abit more locked down by 
Microsoft in the windows area.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, 28 February 2021 2:26 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Surface Pro vs Ipad

I had a Surface using both Jaws and NVDA Since I am mainly a Windows user the 
only learning curve was using the touch screen until I got a external keyboard.
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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:10 AM
Subject: Surface Pro vs Ipad


good morning everyone,

I am considering purchasing either a Microsoft surface pro or a 12 inch iPad. 
I’m wondering if anyone has any experience with the surface pro and jaws and 
how they feel about it’s Accessibility compared to the iPad.

I am primarily interested in attending zoom classes doing research on the 
computer and preparing word documents. Not too much actually no editing of 
audio files or video things like that

thank you very much,

Lynda

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Re: Some questions about the Audible app

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi Barb.  Check out The 13th Floor on bard again.  I just downloaded
the book again, and it sounds just fine to me.  I'm not hearing any
bad quality issues with the book at all.

On 2/28/21, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
>
>
>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I remember reading that book as a kid.  I'll have to check it out.
>> That book was a lot of fun.  Unfortunately bard may be the only place
>> to get that book in a human read audio format.  I actually contacted
>> listening Library several years ago, and asked about that book and it
>> hadn't been converted to digital format from cassette.  I'll have to
>> check the quality on bard.
>>
>>> On 2/28/21, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
>>> It was the 13th floor by Sid Fleishmen Note I am guessing about the
>>> spelling
>>> of the author's name.
>>> Concerning BARD, I love the nevigation features within the app, but I
>>> hate
>>> that you cannot use them outside of the app such as with bluetooth
>>> headphones or a speaker. It means you have to have the phone with you in
>>> order to rewind a tiny bit if I happen to miss something.
>>>
 On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
 wrote:

 Barbara, what was the book you found from your childhood on bard?

> On 2/27/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> One note about BARD, if you use the rewind or fast forward buttons on
> either
> side of the play/stop button, a one finger double tap jumps by 5
> seconds,
> but if you double tap and hold, it will announce the time as it moves,
> like
> 5 seconds 20 seconds, 1 minute, etc.
>
> Also, many, many, titles on BARD are now the same as the commercial
> titles
> on Audible, or any other commcerial audio book source.
> And, most of the BARD readers are professionals, though there are
> times
> when
> a book is produced by a local NLS chapter with volunteers and the
> reading
> quality may vary.
> Also, if it was converted from a very old cassette, the quality can be
> lower
> than one would prefer.
>
> But overall, I find the BARD recordings quite good.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
> object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:00 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Some questions about the Audible app
>
> I really like audible. I have the gold plan and get one credit a
> month.
> There are also lots of sales where you get books for reduced prices
> and
> two
> books for one credit . I like to add books to my wish list and wait
> for
> them
> to be on sale to buy them. There are also daily deals every day. There
> is
> also the plus catalog with hundreds of free titles to listen to. I
> also
> love
> the book navigation in audible. I can easily move forward and back by
> chapter or in 30 second intervals. I also love that I can easily move
> back
> and forward 30 seconds when the screen is locked and using all my
> headphones
> and speakers. I cannot do that with most other listening apps such as
> BARD.
> It just moves me back an entire section instead of the 30 seconds I
> wanted
> to move. I love free books and often use bard,  But, I think that the
> narration quality is much better with audible than with BARD. I
> recently
> found an old childhood book on BARD that was not available in audio
> anywhere
> else and I was so disappointed that the narration is absolutely
> terrible.
> I
> really wish that the commercial version were available on audible. I
> would
> buy it in a snap.
>
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RE: google duo question

[Marco Curralejo]

Yep completely agree. Fantastic app, multi-platform compatible (Android, 
iPhone, smart speaker, etc.) and fabulous audio quality. You can even use it on 
a PC or MAC.
Duo.google.com

Marco

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 You bet, it works just fine. Simple to use and totally free.

On 2/28/2021 1:04 PM, Casey wrote:
> Hi I have A friend who uses an iPhone with voice and he has someone in 
> his family who uses google duo.
>
> Now can my friend put the google duo on his iPhone and use it with 
> voice over?
>
> To message and keep en-touch with the person in his family that use 
> duo and if so how well does duo work with voice over for someone that 
> is totally blind?
>
> Also is it free to install and use for the iPhone?
>

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Re: Some questions about the Audible app

[Barbara Stahl]

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I remember reading that book as a kid.  I'll have to check it out.
> That book was a lot of fun.  Unfortunately bard may be the only place
> to get that book in a human read audio format.  I actually contacted
> listening Library several years ago, and asked about that book and it
> hadn't been converted to digital format from cassette.  I'll have to
> check the quality on bard.
> 
>> On 2/28/21, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
>> It was the 13th floor by Sid Fleishmen Note I am guessing about the spelling
>> of the author's name.
>> Concerning BARD, I love the nevigation features within the app, but I hate
>> that you cannot use them outside of the app such as with bluetooth
>> headphones or a speaker. It means you have to have the phone with you in
>> order to rewind a tiny bit if I happen to miss something.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Barbara, what was the book you found from your childhood on bard?
>>> 
 On 2/27/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 One note about BARD, if you use the rewind or fast forward buttons on
 either
 side of the play/stop button, a one finger double tap jumps by 5
 seconds,
 but if you double tap and hold, it will announce the time as it moves,
 like
 5 seconds 20 seconds, 1 minute, etc.
 
 Also, many, many, titles on BARD are now the same as the commercial
 titles
 on Audible, or any other commcerial audio book source.
 And, most of the BARD readers are professionals, though there are times
 when
 a book is produced by a local NLS chapter with volunteers and the
 reading
 quality may vary.
 Also, if it was converted from a very old cassette, the quality can be
 lower
 than one would prefer.
 
 But overall, I find the BARD recordings quite good.
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
 realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
 My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Barbara Stahl
 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:00 PM
 To: Viphone 
 Subject: Re: Some questions about the Audible app
 
 I really like audible. I have the gold plan and get one credit a month.
 There are also lots of sales where you get books for reduced prices and
 two
 books for one credit . I like to add books to my wish list and wait for
 them
 to be on sale to buy them. There are also daily deals every day. There
 is
 also the plus catalog with hundreds of free titles to listen to. I also
 love
 the book navigation in audible. I can easily move forward and back by
 chapter or in 30 second intervals. I also love that I can easily move
 back
 and forward 30 seconds when the screen is locked and using all my
 headphones
 and speakers. I cannot do that with most other listening apps such as
 BARD.
 It just moves me back an entire section instead of the 30 seconds I
 wanted
 to move. I love free books and often use bard,  But, I think that the
 narration quality is much better with audible than with BARD. I recently
 found an old childhood book on BARD that was not available in audio
 anywhere
 else and I was so disappointed that the narration is absolutely terrible.
 I
 really wish that the commercial version were available on audible. I
 would
 buy it in a snap.
 
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 On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:18 AM Lana
 mailto:la...@comcast.net>> wrote:
 That can happen with the two-finger double tap with audible, music,
 voice dream and others. It's weird when you stop something and something
 else starts up. Just use the same, and it will stop

Re: google duo question

[Gordon]

    You bet, it works just fine. Simple to use and totally free.

On 2/28/2021 1:04 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have A friend who uses an iPhone with voice and he has someone in 
his family who uses google duo.


Now can my friend put the google duo on his iPhone and use it with 
voice over?


To message and keep en-touch with the person in his family that use 
duo and if so how well does duo work with voice over for someone that 
is totally blind?


Also is it free to install and use for the iPhone?



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Re: Some questions about the Audible app

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I remember reading that book as a kid.  I'll have to check it out.
That book was a lot of fun.  Unfortunately bard may be the only place
to get that book in a human read audio format.  I actually contacted
listening Library several years ago, and asked about that book and it
hadn't been converted to digital format from cassette.  I'll have to
check the quality on bard.

On 2/28/21, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
> It was the 13th floor by Sid Fleishmen Note I am guessing about the spelling
> of the author's name.
> Concerning BARD, I love the nevigation features within the app, but I hate
> that you cannot use them outside of the app such as with bluetooth
> headphones or a speaker. It means you have to have the phone with you in
> order to rewind a tiny bit if I happen to miss something.
>
>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Barbara, what was the book you found from your childhood on bard?
>>
>>> On 2/27/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> One note about BARD, if you use the rewind or fast forward buttons on
>>> either
>>> side of the play/stop button, a one finger double tap jumps by 5
>>> seconds,
>>> but if you double tap and hold, it will announce the time as it moves,
>>> like
>>> 5 seconds 20 seconds, 1 minute, etc.
>>>
>>> Also, many, many, titles on BARD are now the same as the commercial
>>> titles
>>> on Audible, or any other commcerial audio book source.
>>> And, most of the BARD readers are professionals, though there are times
>>> when
>>> a book is produced by a local NLS chapter with volunteers and the
>>> reading
>>> quality may vary.
>>> Also, if it was converted from a very old cassette, the quality can be
>>> lower
>>> than one would prefer.
>>>
>>> But overall, I find the BARD recordings quite good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Barbara Stahl
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:00 PM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: Re: Some questions about the Audible app
>>>
>>> I really like audible. I have the gold plan and get one credit a month.
>>> There are also lots of sales where you get books for reduced prices and
>>> two
>>> books for one credit . I like to add books to my wish list and wait for
>>> them
>>> to be on sale to buy them. There are also daily deals every day. There
>>> is
>>> also the plus catalog with hundreds of free titles to listen to. I also
>>> love
>>> the book navigation in audible. I can easily move forward and back by
>>> chapter or in 30 second intervals. I also love that I can easily move
>>> back
>>> and forward 30 seconds when the screen is locked and using all my
>>> headphones
>>> and speakers. I cannot do that with most other listening apps such as
>>> BARD.
>>> It just moves me back an entire section instead of the 30 seconds I
>>> wanted
>>> to move. I love free books and often use bard,  But, I think that the
>>> narration quality is much better with audible than with BARD. I recently
>>> found an old childhood book on BARD that was not available in audio
>>> anywhere
>>> else and I was so disappointed that the narration is absolutely terrible.
>>> I
>>> really wish that the commercial version were available on audible. I
>>> would
>>> buy it in a snap.
>>>
>>> [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]
>>> Virus-free.
>>> www.avast.com
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:18 AM Lana
>>> mailto:la...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> That can happen with the two-finger double tap with audible, music,
>>> voice dream and others. It's weird when you stop something and something
>>> else starts up. Just use the same, and it will stop.
>>>
 On 2/25/2021 9:02 AM, 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone wrote:
 Fortunately I bought the Platinum plan a long time ago, so my books are
 all around $9.57 each.  My problem with 

Re: google duo question

[Kathy Brandt]

Google duo works very well on the iPhone. it is free. You will be able to send 
either text messages, video or audio messages, and make voice or  video calls.

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Casey  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have A friend who uses an iPhone with voice and he has someone in his 
> family who uses google duo.
> 
> Now can my friend put the google duo on his iPhone and use it with voice over?
> 
> To message and keep en-touch with the person in his family that use duo and 
> if so how well does duo work with voice over for someone that is totally 
> blind?
> 
> Also is it free to install and use for the iPhone?
> 
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google duo question

[Casey]

Hi I have A friend who uses an iPhone with voice and he has someone in 
his family who uses google duo.


Now can my friend put the google duo on his iPhone and use it with voice 
over?


To message and keep en-touch with the person in his family that use duo 
and if so how well does duo work with voice over for someone that is 
totally blind?


Also is it free to install and use for the iPhone?

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Re: Setting up Withings Thermo Temporal Thermometer

[Janet Bell]

Hi Debby, thanks for this will give it a go tomorrow as I forgot to ask 
the sighted person who came to see me today.  Janet


On 28/02/2021 14:21, Debby wrote:


Hi Janet and anyone interested in my miraculous success!

This morning I finally got the Thermo set up with my iPhone SE. If 
anyone else decides to try this without the benefit of eyes that work, 
here are my notes:


You can get the Thermo app from the Apple app store however, the app 
is not fully accessible for setting up a Withings account on your 
phone. The two things I know don’t work is the accepting of the 
agreements, and your gender designation. Without these you can’t go 
on. So you need to go to http://www.withings.com and set up the 
account there. Later, on the iPhone in the Thermo app under settings 
you can download the information to the phone.


Once that is done you are ready to tackle the installation of the 
Thermo on your phone. One thing for a blind person to know, which I 
don’t think is really evident, is that the thermometer’s display is 
the area that is on the same side as the button of the unit. To me it 
doesn’t feel like a display because it has a rougher texture then most 
displays do. Also one of the things that the manual/user guide doesn’t 
mention is that before you can install the thermometer on the phone, 
you have to turn the thermometer on. To do this just push the button 
and hold for 1 to 2 seconds. You can use a color identify to verify 
that the unit is on. I used a Colorino, and when the thermometer is 
off the color setting says “white.” When the thermometer is on, the 
Colorino doesn’t give a color, but you hear a blinking tone pattern. I 
think the thermometer only stays on for 30 seconds, so be sure to turn 
it on close to the time you are going to try the install on your iPhone.


Now to the iPhone. Go into the Thermo app and if you haven’t already 
go ahead and log in. You should see a screen that says “family member” 
and under that “me.” If you double tap the “me” button you will see 
your stats. To start the installation double tap on settings. Note, 
the settings button is at the top of the screen, and it must not be 
labeled correctly because in iOS 14.4 Voiceover  said “possibly 
settings button.” On the settings screen double tap on the 
“installation” or “install” button, I can’t remember which it said. Be 
sure the thermometer is on. The iPhone screen will give you the 
instructions to hold the button on the Thermo for 8 seconds. It seems 
that if all is working well, and evidently it was for me, I got a 
message asking if Thermo could use Bluetooth. I agreed to that and 
then was able to follow the iPhone directions and got the thermometer 
set up.


It then provides a tutorial for taking your temperature. I took two 
readings, and I am happy to report that even having gotten the second 
Pfizer vaccine yesterday, I did not have a fever.


I hope this helps if anyone else wants to set this up on your own.

Take care and Stay safe!

Debby

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Janet Bell

*Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:59 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Setting up Withings Thermo Temporal Thermometer

cheers Debby

On 27/02/2021 18:42, Debby wrote:

Hi Janet,

Thanks and good luck! Also if I find out anything, I will let you
know!

Debby

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
  *On
Behalf Of *Janet Bell
*Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:40 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Setting up Withings Thermo Temporal Thermometer

Hi Debby, I like you cannot create an account, I put in email and
password and cannot get past this.  I am going to get some sighted
help tomorrow and if I find anything out I will pass it on to
you.  Janet

On 27/02/2021 14:03, Debby wrote:

Hi All,

Has anyone set up a Withings Thermo from scratch with no
workable eyes around? From the way everyone talked about it, I
thought it was going to be a cake walk. I think I have
downloaded the correct app, but it has missing labels. I had
to create an account on the Withings website. To get the
installation process started you seem to have to see the
display on the thermometer itself. I thought I could outsmart
the system, but I haven’t been able to see the device on my
phone. I am using an iPhone SE 2020 with iOS 14.4.

I know I can try calling Withings or AIRA, but I thought I
would check to see if anyone has done this independently.

Thanks for any help!

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

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Re: Some questions about the Audible app

[Barbara Stahl]

It was the 13th floor by Sid Fleishmen Note I am guessing about the spelling of 
the author's name. 
Concerning BARD, I love the nevigation features within the app, but I hate that 
you cannot use them outside of the app such as with bluetooth headphones or a 
speaker. It means you have to have the phone with you in order to rewind a tiny 
bit if I happen to miss something.  

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Barbara, what was the book you found from your childhood on bard?
> 
>> On 2/27/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> One note about BARD, if you use the rewind or fast forward buttons on either
>> side of the play/stop button, a one finger double tap jumps by 5 seconds,
>> but if you double tap and hold, it will announce the time as it moves, like
>> 5 seconds 20 seconds, 1 minute, etc.
>> 
>> Also, many, many, titles on BARD are now the same as the commercial titles
>> on Audible, or any other commcerial audio book source.
>> And, most of the BARD readers are professionals, though there are times when
>> a book is produced by a local NLS chapter with volunteers and the reading
>> quality may vary.
>> Also, if it was converted from a very old cassette, the quality can be lower
>> than one would prefer.
>> 
>> But overall, I find the BARD recordings quite good.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Barbara Stahl
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:00 PM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: Some questions about the Audible app
>> 
>> I really like audible. I have the gold plan and get one credit a month.
>> There are also lots of sales where you get books for reduced prices and two
>> books for one credit . I like to add books to my wish list and wait for them
>> to be on sale to buy them. There are also daily deals every day. There is
>> also the plus catalog with hundreds of free titles to listen to. I also love
>> the book navigation in audible. I can easily move forward and back by
>> chapter or in 30 second intervals. I also love that I can easily move back
>> and forward 30 seconds when the screen is locked and using all my headphones
>> and speakers. I cannot do that with most other listening apps such as BARD.
>> It just moves me back an entire section instead of the 30 seconds I wanted
>> to move. I love free books and often use bard,  But, I think that the
>> narration quality is much better with audible than with BARD. I recently
>> found an old childhood book on BARD that was not available in audio anywhere
>> else and I was so disappointed that the narration is absolutely terrible. I
>> really wish that the commercial version were available on audible. I would
>> buy it in a snap.
>> 
>> [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]
>> Virus-free.
>> www.avast.com
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:18 AM Lana
>> mailto:la...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> That can happen with the two-finger double tap with audible, music,
>> voice dream and others. It's weird when you stop something and something
>> else starts up. Just use the same, and it will stop.
>> 
>>> On 2/25/2021 9:02 AM, 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone wrote:
>>> Fortunately I bought the Platinum plan a long time ago, so my books are
>>> all around $9.57 each.  My problem with the app though is that it often
>>> starts reading even though the app isn't open.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:55 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Some questions about the Audible app
>>> 
>>> I know the books are more expensive, but since I do not buy tha

RE: Setting up Withings Thermo Temporal Thermometer

[Debby]

Hi Janet and anyone interested in my miraculous success!

 

This morning I finally got the Thermo set up with my iPhone SE. If anyone else 
decides to try this without the benefit of eyes that work, here are my notes:

 

You can get the Thermo app from the Apple app store however, the app is not 
fully accessible for setting up a Withings account on your phone. The two 
things I know don’t work is the accepting of the agreements, and your gender 
designation. Without these you can’t go on. So you need to go to 
http://www.withings.com and set up the account there. Later, on the iPhone in 
the Thermo app under settings you can download the information to the phone.

 

Once that is done you are ready to tackle the installation of the Thermo on 
your phone. One thing for a blind person to know, which I don’t think is really 
evident, is that the thermometer’s display is the area that is on the same side 
as the button of the unit. To me it doesn’t feel like a display because it has 
a rougher texture then most displays do. Also one of the things that the 
manual/user guide doesn’t mention is that before you can install the 
thermometer on the phone, you have to turn the thermometer on. To do this just 
push the button and hold for 1 to 2 seconds. You can use a color identify to 
verify that the unit is on. I used a Colorino, and when the thermometer is off 
the color setting says “white.” When the thermometer is on, the Colorino 
doesn’t give a color, but you hear a blinking tone pattern. I think the 
thermometer only stays on for 30 seconds, so be sure to turn it on close to the 
time you are going to try the install on your iPhone.  

 

Now to the iPhone. Go into the Thermo app and if you haven’t already go ahead 
and log in. You should see a screen that says “family member” and under that 
“me.” If you double tap the “me” button you will see your stats. To start the 
installation double tap on settings. Note, the settings button is at the top of 
the screen, and it must not be labeled correctly because in iOS 14.4 Voiceover  
said “possibly settings button.” On the settings screen double tap on the 
“installation” or “install” button, I can’t remember which it said. Be sure the 
thermometer is on. The iPhone screen will give you the instructions to hold the 
button on the Thermo for 8 seconds. It seems that if all is working well, and 
evidently it was for me, I got a message asking if Thermo could use Bluetooth. 
I agreed to that and then was able to follow the iPhone directions and got the 
thermometer set up. 

 

It then provides a tutorial for taking your temperature. I took two readings, 
and I am happy to report that even having gotten the second Pfizer vaccine 
yesterday, I did not have a fever.

 

I hope this helps if anyone else wants to set this up on your own.

 

Take care and Stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up Withings Thermo Temporal Thermometer

 

cheers Debby

On 27/02/2021 18:42, Debby wrote:

Hi Janet,

 

Thanks and good luck! Also if I find out anything, I will let you know!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Setting up Withings Thermo Temporal Thermometer

 

Hi Debby, I like you cannot create an account, I put in email and password and 
cannot get past this.  I am going to get some sighted help tomorrow and if I 
find anything out I will pass it on to you.  Janet

On 27/02/2021 14:03, Debby wrote:

Hi All,

 

Has anyone set up a Withings Thermo from scratch with no workable eyes around? 
From the way everyone talked about it, I thought it was going to be a cake 
walk. I think I have downloaded the correct app, but it has missing labels. I 
had to create an account on the Withings website. To get the installation 
process started you seem to have to see the display on the thermometer itself. 
I thought I could outsmart the system, but I haven’t been able to see the 
device on my phone. I am using an iPhone SE 2020 with iOS 14.4.

 

I know I can try calling Withings or AIRA, but I thought I would check to see 
if anyone has done this independently.

 

Thanks for any help!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

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Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Thanks guys for all your help.  Since I do have a few more months to
save, I think I'll wait for the 13.  I really hope it has touch ID
along with face ID.  I'm looking forward to more internal memory, and
a faster processor.  For some reason, my bottom speaker on my iPhone 8
just kind of died and stopped working.  It will be nice to have a bit
louder speaker.  One of my cousins has an iPhone 11 and I was
surprised at how good her speaker actually sounded when playing music.

On 2/28/21, Peter Logan  wrote:
> Joshua,
>
> Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might play
> into your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 12/12 Pro now
> I think would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been out for just a few
> months.  If you have 3 or 4 more months to save, then at that point I'd
> wait.
>
> Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other features,
> but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come into play.  I
> still have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...
>
> HTH ..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or
> wait for the 13 to come out.
>
> iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as possible,
> by the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto it for a long
> time. I bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 will be the last year it
> will receive a full iOS update, then I will have had a fully updated and
> functional device for six years. Few companies in the technology industry
> continue to support devices for this long.  I have not changed the battery
> and it still lasts for a day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a
> mini iPhone when I replace my 7.
> The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They sell for a
> lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all the discounting,
> rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.
>>
>> My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.
>>
>> There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed
>> with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.
>>
>> So far so good.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro,
>> or wait for the 13 to come out.
>>
>>
>>
>> I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There are
>> a couple of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is rumoured to
>> be offered in all models of iPHONE so you'll have more flexibility
>> about which kind of iPHONE to get without sacrificing that capability.
>> The chip in the
>> 13 series of iPHONEs will be more advanced which is always a good
>> thing that adds years to how long your phone will be supported after
>> purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be the second crack Apple
>> takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons they learned from the
>> experiences of iPHONE 12 owners will be incorporated into the 13s.
>> Provided you're reasonably content with the iPHONE you have, I'd say it
>> makes more sense to wait.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 8:58 AM Joshua Hendrickson >  > wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all.  In a few more months
>> , I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I
>> thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around
>> there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for
>> the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any
>> suggestions.
>> --
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>
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RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Peter Logan]

Joshua,

Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might play into 
your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 12/12 Pro now I think 
would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been out for just a few months.  If 
you have 3 or 4 more months to save, then at that point I'd wait.

Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other features, 
but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come into play.  I still 
have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...  

HTH ..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as possible, by 
the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto it for a long time. I 
bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 will be the last year it will 
receive a full iOS update, then I will have had a fully updated and functional 
device for six years. Few companies in the technology industry continue to 
support devices for this long.  I have not changed the battery and it still 
lasts for a day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a mini iPhone when I 
replace my 7.
The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They sell for a 
lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all the discounting, 
rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.

Kelly



On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.
>
> My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.
>
> There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed 
> with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.
>
> So far so good.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, 
> or wait for the 13 to come out.
>
>
>
> I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There are 
> a couple of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is rumoured to 
> be offered in all models of iPHONE so you'll have more flexibility 
> about which kind of iPHONE to get without sacrificing that capability. 
> The chip in the
> 13 series of iPHONEs will be more advanced which is always a good 
> thing that adds years to how long your phone will be supported after 
> purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be the second crack Apple 
> takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons they learned from the 
> experiences of iPHONE 12 owners will be incorporated into the 13s. 
> Provided you're reasonably content with the iPHONE you have, I'd say it makes 
> more sense to wait.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 8:58 AM Joshua Hendrickson   > wrote:
>
> Hi to all.  In a few more months
> , I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I 
> thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around 
> there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for 
> the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any 
> suggestions.
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