RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

[Simon A Fogarty]

Cristobal


I got my self a wahoo fitness HR monitor
I can’t remember the model but it works great with the Wahoo fitness app on my 
phone or an iPod touch,

To ad to this I got a Wahoo cadiance and speed monitor which has three parts,

The main body with the sensors
Attaches to the main bike frame,
On the bottom bar of the back wheel support,
So it can pick up both the rear wheel spinning an the pedal going around,

There is a little rubber band thing with a sensor device in it that goes on the 
pedal arm,

And another little sensor that attaches to the spokes of the back wheel that 
then like the sensor on the pedal arm gets picked up by the main wahoo sensor 
that is on the bottom wheel arm 9bracket),

This uses Bluetooth 4 in my devices case to connect to the wahoo fitness app on 
my phone or ipod touch and picks up how fast the back when is spinning,
And also how fast you are pedalling.

These feed in to the app and together you can get a pretty good view of your 
workout data,

The app does take some getting use to and I would advise playing around with it 
to setup the appropriate workout for yourself,
And then once you have the hr monitor and caidance device,
You can pair those to your app.

Hope that helps.

Oh and the wahoo app is very accessible but full of a lot of stuff.

Cheers,


Simon f

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2021 5:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise 
bike

Hello list,
So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike 
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources on 
this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling out the 
big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.
I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong and 
am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I think I’d 
be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next upgrade 
instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort of app or 
firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.
Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike 
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring heart 
rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no desire to 
get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate monitor. My 
understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to get connected, 
but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS app/service?
Thanks,
Cristobal
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Re: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

[Richard Turner]

I would think that the phone in your pocket would track your steps if you 
enabled that in the health app, or a pedometer app.
And, doesn't the Fitbit track heart rate if you do not want the Apple Watch?
Just some thoughts.


Richard

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On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:


Hello list,
So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike 
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources on 
this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling out the 
big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.
I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong and 
am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I think I’d 
be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next upgrade 
instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort of app or 
firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.
Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike 
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring heart 
rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no desire to 
get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate monitor. My 
understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to get connected, 
but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS app/service?
Thanks,
Cristobal

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accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources
on this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling
out the big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.

I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong
and am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I
think I’d be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next
upgrade instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort
of app or firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.

Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring
heart rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no
desire to get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate
monitor. My understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to
get connected, but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS
app/service?

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Richard Turner]

I agree Larry, but that assumes the moderator actually reads every email.
You could forward it to the moderator.
I just begin deleting emails from people like that.


Richard

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young."
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On Mar 3, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


If I were moderator, that would come close to bouncing off the list.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

How judge-mental and offensive of you to call those who want iPhones with large 
amounts of storage “lazy asses”.
You know nothing of these individuals and why they may want an iPhone with a 
large amount of storage, and you show yourself to be quite ignorant and 
narrow-minded

- Brad -

On Mar 3, 2021, at 20:50, Kelly Pierce 
mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served
me well.  I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a
week’s long cross country trip with plenty for photos, videos and
voice memos. That being said, big storage is rather popular. I wanted
to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 256 GB version was completely
sold out and backorders were not possible because of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that those who crave 1
TB on their iPhones are lazy asses who can’t be bothered in moving
photos and videos off their phone and onto their computer. Similarly,
they are lazy in not wanting to rotate music out of their iTunes
Library and transferring more music into it.

Kelly



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On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 3:09 PM Peter Logan 
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Joshua,

Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might play
into your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 12/12 Pro
now I think would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been out for just a
few months.  If you have 3 or 4 more months to save, then at that point
I'd
wait.

Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other
features, but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come into
play.  I still have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...

HTH ..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or
wait for the 13 to come out.

iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as
possible,
by the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto it for a long
time. I bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 will be the last year
it will receive a full iOS update, then I will have had a fully updated
and
functional device for six years. Few companies in the technology industry
continue to support devices for this long.  I have not changed the
battery
and it still lasts for a day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a
mini iPhone when I replace my 7.
The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They sell
for
a lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all the
discounting, rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.

Kelly



On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar mailto:amedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.

My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.

There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed
with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.

So far so good.

Ann









From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro,
or wait for the 13 to 

RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Larry Lumpkin]

If I were moderator, that would come close to bouncing off the list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

 

How judge-mental and offensive of you to call those who want iPhones with large 
amounts of storage “lazy asses”.

You know nothing of these individuals and why they may want an iPhone with a 
large amount of storage, and you show yourself to be quite ignorant and 
narrow-minded


- Brad -

 

On Mar 3, 2021, at 20:50, Kelly Pierce mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served
me well.  I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a
week’s long cross country trip with plenty for photos, videos and
voice memos. That being said, big storage is rather popular. I wanted
to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 256 GB version was completely
sold out and backorders were not possible because of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that those who crave 1
TB on their iPhones are lazy asses who can’t be bothered in moving
photos and videos off their phone and onto their computer. Similarly,
they are lazy in not wanting to rotate music out of their iTunes
Library and transferring more music into it.

Kelly



On 3/3/21, Frank Youke mailto:frankyo...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:



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On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 3:09 PM Peter Logan mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com> > wrote:




Joshua,

Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might play
into your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 12/12 Pro
now I think would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been out for just a
few months.  If you have 3 or 4 more months to save, then at that point
I'd
wait.

Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other
features, but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come into
play.  I still have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...

HTH ..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or
wait for the 13 to come out.

iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as
possible,
by the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto it for a long
time. I bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 will be the last year
it will receive a full iOS update, then I will have had a fully updated
and
functional device for six years. Few companies in the technology industry
continue to support devices for this long.  I have not changed the
battery
and it still lasts for a day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a
mini iPhone when I replace my 7.
The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They sell
for
a lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all the
discounting, rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.

Kelly



On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:



Hi,

I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.

My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.

There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed
with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.

So far so good.

Ann









From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro,
or wait for the 13 to come out.



I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There are
a couple of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is rumoured to
be offered in all models of iPHONE so you'll have more flexibility
about which kind of iPHONE to get without sacrificing that capability.
The chip in the
13 series of iPHONEs will be more advanced which is always a good
thing that adds years to how long your phone will be supported after
purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be the second crack Apple
takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons 

Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Brad Snyder]

How judge-mental and offensive of you to call those who want iPhones with large 
amounts of storage “lazy asses”.
You know nothing of these individuals and why they may want an iPhone with a 
large amount of storage, and you show yourself to be quite ignorant and 
narrow-minded

- Brad -


On Mar 3, 2021, at 20:50, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served
me well.  I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a
week’s long cross country trip with plenty for photos, videos and
voice memos. That being said, big storage is rather popular. I wanted
to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 256 GB version was completely
sold out and backorders were not possible because of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that those who crave 1
TB on their iPhones are lazy asses who can’t be bothered in moving
photos and videos off their phone and onto their computer. Similarly,
they are lazy in not wanting to rotate music out of their iTunes
Library and transferring more music into it.

Kelly



On 3/3/21, Frank Youke  wrote:
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> with bad credit.
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> *Repayment Guarantee will be signed and approved by the government.
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> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 3:09 PM Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
>> Joshua,
>> 
>> Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might play
>> into your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 12/12 Pro
>> now I think would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been out for just a
>> few months.  If you have 3 or 4 more months to save, then at that point
>> I'd
>> wait.
>> 
>> Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other
>> features, but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come into
>> play.  I still have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...
>> 
>> HTH ..
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or
>> wait for the 13 to come out.
>> 
>> iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as
>> possible,
>> by the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto it for a long
>> time. I bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 will be the last year
>> it will receive a full iOS update, then I will have had a fully updated
>> and
>> functional device for six years. Few companies in the technology industry
>> continue to support devices for this long.  I have not changed the
>> battery
>> and it still lasts for a day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a
>> mini iPhone when I replace my 7.
>> The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They sell
>> for
>> a lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all the
>> discounting, rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.
>>> 
>>> My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.
>>> 
>>> There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed
>>> with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.
>>> 
>>> So far so good.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro,
>>> or wait for the 13 to come out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There are
>>> a couple of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is rumoured to
>>> be offered in all models of iPHONE so you'll have more flexibility
>>> about which kind of iPHONE to get without sacrificing that capability.
>>> The chip in the
>>> 13 series of iPHONEs will be more advanced which is always a good
>>> thing that adds years to how long your phone will be supported after
>>> purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be the second crack Apple
>>> takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons they learned from the
>>> experiences of iPHONE 12 owners will be incorporated into the 13s.
>>> Provided you're reasonably content with the iPHONE you have, I'd say it
>> makes more sense to wait.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 8:58 AM Joshua Hendrickson >>  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi to all.  In a few more months
>>> , I should have the 

RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Simon A Fogarty]

It would be interesting having a iPhone with 1tb of storage,

 However iCloud only gives you 5gig of storage free so backing up a 1tb phone 
would be somewhat costly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2021 3:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served me well.  
I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a week’s long cross 
country trip with plenty for photos, videos and voice memos. That being said, 
big storage is rather popular. I wanted to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 
256 GB version was completely sold out and backorders were not possible because 
of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that those who crave 1 TB on 
their iPhones are lazy asses who can’t be bothered in moving photos and videos 
off their phone and onto their computer. Similarly, they are lazy in not 
wanting to rotate music out of their iTunes Library and transferring more music 
into it.

Kelly



On 3/3/21, Frank Youke  wrote:
> *Get a business/investment loan up to $500M USD with no collateral 
> even with bad credit.
> *For Personal,Business or Company
> *No Collateral needed
> *3-5% Interest Rate
> *Repayment duration of over 10years
> *100% Guaranteed Approval Rate
> *Repayment Guarantee will be signed and approved by the government.
> Terms and Condition Applies
> SBLC/BG, PPP, TRADING, BITCOIN LOANS, ETC For More Information Contact 
> us now Email: danclark...@sbcglobal.net
> 247 customer ; whatsapp for more details: +447723157698
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 3:09 PM Peter Logan  wrote:
>
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might 
>> play into your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 
>> 12/12 Pro now I think would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been 
>> out for just a few months.  If you have 3 or 4 more months to save, 
>> then at that point I'd wait.
>>
>> Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other 
>> features, but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come 
>> into play.  I still have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...
>>
>> HTH ..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 
>> pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.
>>
>> iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as 
>> possible, by the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto 
>> it for a long time. I bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 
>> will be the last year it will receive a full iOS update, then I will 
>> have had a fully updated and functional device for six years. Few 
>> companies in the technology industry continue to support devices for 
>> this long.  I have not changed the battery and it still lasts for a 
>> day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a mini iPhone when I 
>> replace my 7.
>> The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They 
>> sell for a lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all 
>> the discounting, rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.
>> >
>> > My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.
>> >
>> > There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed 
>> > with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.
>> >
>> > So far so good.
>> >
>> > Ann
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> > Of Michael Feir
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 
>> > pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There 
>> > are a couple of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is 
>> > rumoured to be offered in all models of iPHONE so you'll have more 
>> > flexibility about which kind of iPHONE to get without sacrificing that 
>> > capability.
>> > The chip in the
>> > 13 series of iPHONEs will be more advanced which is always a good 
>> > thing that adds years to how long your phone will be supported 
>> > after purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be the second crack 
>> > Apple takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons they learned 
>> > from the experiences of iPHONE 12 owners will be incorporated into the 13s.
>> > Provided you're reasonably content with the iPHONE you have, I'd 
>> > say it
>> makes more sense to wait.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 27, 

Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Kelly Pierce]

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served
me well.  I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a
week’s long cross country trip with plenty for photos, videos and
voice memos. That being said, big storage is rather popular. I wanted
to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 256 GB version was completely
sold out and backorders were not possible because of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that those who crave 1
TB on their iPhones are lazy asses who can’t be bothered in moving
photos and videos off their phone and onto their computer. Similarly,
they are lazy in not wanting to rotate music out of their iTunes
Library and transferring more music into it.

Kelly



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> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 3:09 PM Peter Logan  wrote:
>
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Depending on how much longer you need to save for .. well that might play
>> into your decision.  If you were ready today, then getting the 12/12 Pro
>> now I think would be fine.  Remember the 12 has only been out for just a
>> few months.  If you have 3 or 4 more months to save, then at that point
>> I'd
>> wait.
>>
>> Some of the comments others have made are valid about 5G and other
>> features, but again depending on where you live .. when will 5G come into
>> play.  I still have areas around me that are 3G...LOL...
>>
>> HTH ..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or
>> wait for the 13 to come out.
>>
>> iPhones have an expiration date. to make your money go as far as
>> possible,
>> by the latest model soon after it comes out and hang onto it for a long
>> time. I bought my iPhone 7 in October 2016. If 2021 will be the last year
>> it will receive a full iOS update, then I will have had a fully updated
>> and
>> functional device for six years. Few companies in the technology industry
>> continue to support devices for this long.  I have not changed the
>> battery
>> and it still lasts for a day of use.  I am actually looking forward to a
>> mini iPhone when I replace my 7.
>> The market for used or refurbished iPhones is pretty robust. They sell
>> for
>> a lot less than what they did a few years ago because of all the
>> discounting, rebates and payment plans for new iPhones.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/21, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I just bought iPhone12Pro and my husband got the 12Max.
>> >
>> > My husband graduated from flip to iPhone and I went from ip6 to 12+.
>> >
>> > There was a 2 for 1 iPhone offer at T Mobile.  I would have stayed
>> > with 6 but I could not run newly developed  apps on IOS versions > 12.
>> >
>> > So far so good.
>> >
>> > Ann
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> > Michael Feir
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro,
>> > or wait for the 13 to come out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There are
>> > a couple of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is rumoured to
>> > be offered in all models of iPHONE so you'll have more flexibility
>> > about which kind of iPHONE to get without sacrificing that capability.
>> > The chip in the
>> > 13 series of iPHONEs will be more advanced which is always a good
>> > thing that adds years to how long your phone will be supported after
>> > purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be the second crack Apple
>> > takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons they learned from the
>> > experiences of iPHONE 12 owners will be incorporated into the 13s.
>> > Provided you're reasonably content with the iPHONE you have, I'd say it
>> makes more sense to wait.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 8:58 AM Joshua Hendrickson > >  > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi to all.  In a few more months
>> > , I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I
>> > thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around
>> > there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for
>> > the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any
>> > suggestions.
>> > --
>> > Joshua Hendrickson
>> >
>> > 

Re: New Echo

[Daniel MacDonald]

Helli,

The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of various echo 
skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show podcast is good. It would 
help us if we new what kind of Echo you have. As far as enabling video skills, 
that is limited to echos with screens, the echo show and it’s  variants, and 
the echo spot. The echo show comes in five, eight, and ten inch sizes. The only 
echo you can watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable some skills, go to the 
amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called skills and games. You can 
also enable skills by voice if you know the skill name.

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:15 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been done today. 
> I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and I've been 
> on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look into. Some of what I 
> am told to do isn't fool proof, perhaps due to human error.
>I cant seem to get at the place having to do with enabling 
> video such as Prime Video or Netflix. I've got both Apps on the phone and 
> naively thought I could use Alexa to activate those apps. It doesn't seem to 
> work that way! I followed instructions from a hard file as well as where 
> Alexa tole me to look, that were supposed to get me to TV and Movies under 
> Skills and Games, I think, but I never got there. 
> Under the section in settings for Communication, I did check off various 
> music services and podcasts and Tune In stations I listen to and Alexa was 
> able to find those. I can't however find the place to do that with video, TV 
> and/or movies I am subscribed to.
> I really did imagine that I could tell Alexa to do things like open Bard and 
> continue reading what I was reading last. I assumed the Echo device was 
> totally privy to everything on my phone, as if it had a mirror image of it. 
> H, I'm smiling. Still I did manage to do a "drop in" message to my 
> brother's own Echo and he was indeed notified he had a message and when he 
> asked Alexa to play it, there I was on a live recording which is what I chose 
> to use as the medium. 
>I look forward to learning to do as much as I can with the 
> Echo "hands off.
>Any tips anyone can provide about which sources are most 
> reliable and easy to follow would be greatly appreciated. This will take a 
> systematic approach to getting things set up at more than the most basic 
> level.
>  
>Deidre
>Deidre
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New Echo

[deidreandlouise]

Hello all,

Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been done today.
I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and I've
been on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look into. Some of
what I am told to do isn't fool proof, perhaps due to human error.

   I cant seem to get at the place having to do with enabling
video such as Prime Video or Netflix. I've got both Apps on the phone and
naively thought I could use Alexa to activate those apps. It doesn't seem to
work that way! I followed instructions from a hard file as well as where
Alexa tole me to look, that were supposed to get me to TV and Movies under
Skills and Games, I think, but I never got there. 

Under the section in settings for Communication, I did check off various
music services and podcasts and Tune In stations I listen to and Alexa was
able to find those. I can't however find the place to do that with video, TV
and/or movies I am subscribed to.

I really did imagine that I could tell Alexa to do things like open Bard and
continue reading what I was reading last. I assumed the Echo device was
totally privy to everything on my phone, as if it had a mirror image of it.
H, I'm smiling. Still I did manage to do a "drop in" message to my
brother's own Echo and he was indeed notified he had a message and when he
asked Alexa to play it, there I was on a live recording which is what I
chose to use as the medium. 

   I look forward to learning to do as much as I can with the
Echo "hands off.

   Any tips anyone can provide about which sources are most
reliable and easy to follow would be greatly appreciated. This will take a
systematic approach to getting things set up at more than the most basic
level.

 

   Deidre

   Deidre

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Re: Facebook App Update

[Joseph Hudson]

When in doubt always reboot the phone.

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> False alarm. I rebooted the phone and things went back to normal.
> Tom
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh my goodness. I had just gotten used to the last FB update that still had 
>> the tabs at the bottom. I rely on Facebook to stay connected with family and 
>> friends. So I won't update unless somebody can tell me if some of the APPS 
>> out there that used to exist to work with Facebook still do. There used to 
>> be an APP I think called Friendly that worked with it. Thanks for the info.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Has anybody noticed a radical change in the Facebook app today? I used it 
>>> this morning and it was fine, but just now I went back into it and it looks 
>>> as if the interface is completely different. Gone are the familiar tabs at 
>>> the bottom of the screen, so I can’t get to notifications, newsfeed, et 
>>> cetera. It’s a godawful mess. I removed and redownloaded it and it’s still 
>>> messed up.
>>> 
>>> Tom
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Re: Facebook App Update

[Joseph Hudson]

Tom, the tabs are still there for me. So I guess I haven't gotten the Facebook 
update yet.

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Has anybody noticed a radical change in the Facebook app today? I used it 
> this morning and it was fine, but just now I went back into it and it looks 
> as if the interface is completely different. Gone are the familiar tabs at 
> the bottom of the screen, so I can’t get to notifications, newsfeed, et 
> cetera. It’s a godawful mess. I removed and redownloaded it and it’s still 
> messed up.
> 
> Tom
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Re: Facebook App Update

[Tom Lange]

False alarm. I rebooted the phone and things went back to normal.
Tom

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Oh my goodness. I had just gotten used to the last FB update that still had 
> the tabs at the bottom. I rely on Facebook to stay connected with family and 
> friends. So I won't update unless somebody can tell me if some of the APPS 
> out there that used to exist to work with Facebook still do. There used to be 
> an APP I think called Friendly that worked with it. Thanks for the info.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Has anybody noticed a radical change in the Facebook app today? I used it 
>> this morning and it was fine, but just now I went back into it and it looks 
>> as if the interface is completely different. Gone are the familiar tabs at 
>> the bottom of the screen, so I can’t get to notifications, newsfeed, et 
>> cetera. It’s a godawful mess. I removed and redownloaded it and it’s still 
>> messed up.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
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Re: Facebook App Update

[Duane Steele]

Oh my goodness. I had just gotten used to the last FB update that still had the 
tabs at the bottom. I rely on Facebook to stay connected with family and 
friends. So I won't update unless somebody can tell me if some of the APPS out 
there that used to exist to work with Facebook still do. There used to be an 
APP I think called Friendly that worked with it. Thanks for the info.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Has anybody noticed a radical change in the Facebook app today? I used it 
> this morning and it was fine, but just now I went back into it and it looks 
> as if the interface is completely different. Gone are the familiar tabs at 
> the bottom of the screen, so I can’t get to notifications, newsfeed, et 
> cetera. It’s a godawful mess. I removed and redownloaded it and it’s still 
> messed up.
> 
> Tom
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False Alarm Regarding Facebook App

[Tom Lange]

Hi all,
I posted recently about a radical change to the look and feel of the Facebook 
app. I have no idea how the layout got all messed up on my iPhone 12, but I 
rebooted the phone and all is well. So, disregard my earlier post. Maybe 
this’ll teach me to stay off the app for a while, lol. 
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Facebook App Update

[Tom Lange]

Hi all,
Has anybody noticed a radical change in the Facebook app today? I used it this 
morning and it was fine, but just now I went back into it and it looks as if 
the interface is completely different. Gone are the familiar tabs at the bottom 
of the screen, so I can’t get to notifications, newsfeed, et cetera. It’s a 
godawful mess. I removed and redownloaded it and it’s still messed up.

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Creating an iCloud Email Address

[Mike B]

Hi All,

Running an SE2020 phone with iOS 14.4.  I'm trying to create a new iCloud 
email address but, after I've entered the preferred email address and double 
tapped the, Done button, I get a message stating, there was a problem 
turning on your email, try again.

I'm not getting a message stating this email address has been used or 
anything like that, so, how do I get this email account created?  All help 
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Re: Book marking websites

[Brad Snyder]

They should be in your Safari Bookmarks, just like the others.
You may want to explore and see if you have inadvertently saved them to a 
folder within Bookmarks.

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On Mar 3, 2021, at 13:27, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
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Hello,

I’ve been booking sites while in Safari and saving them.  Where do they go?  I 
have those I did years ago but I can’t find the more recent ones.


As always, thank you,


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Re: What is audio ducking?

[Mike B]

Hi Kimberly,

 Lower audio volume of programs while Jaws speaks

When selected, audio from other programs will be reduced while JAWS is 
speaking. This is commonly referred to as audio ducking. This check box is 
cleared by default and is only available in Windows 8 and later. You can 
also press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by D to toggle audio ducking on or off.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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As long as I’m asking questions...what is audio ducking and who knows if I’m 
spelling it right?


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Re: What is audio ducking?

[Brad Snyder]

When enabled, Audio Ducking lowers the volume of audio such as music, whenever 
the screen reader is speaking.

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As long as I’m asking questions...what is audio ducking and who knows if I’m 
spelling it right?


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What is audio ducking?

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

As long as I’m asking questions...what is audio ducking and who knows if I’m 
spelling it right?


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Book marking websites

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Hello,

I’ve been booking sites while in Safari and saving them.  Where do they go?  I 
have those I did years ago but I can’t find the more recent ones.


As always, thank you,


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RE: Supersense Feature Questions

[Larry Lumpkin]

I prefer just the properly translated text or an option turning this on or off.


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Subject: Supersense Feature Questions

Hey all!
I wanted to write and ask a few quick questions as we continue developing 
Supersense!
First, we're working on adding something that will describe the visual aspects 
of an image. Would you prefer a textual description, like alt text, or would 
you prefer to explore the image on the screen of the phone similar to Seeing AI.
Along the same lines, we're almost finished with our column detector, and our 
developers are curious to know if you'd like to see the layout of the document 
(which info is in which columns) or just the properly-translated text.
Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!

All the best,
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Community Operations Manager @ Mediate
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RE: Supersense Feature Questions

[Larry Lumpkin]

I'd like an option to turn off layout description.


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Hey all!
I wanted to write and ask a few quick questions as we continue developing 
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of an image. Would you prefer a textual description, like alt text, or would 
you prefer to explore the image on the screen of the phone similar to Seeing AI.
Along the same lines, we're almost finished with our column detector, and our 
developers are curious to know if you'd like to see the layout of the document 
(which info is in which columns) or just the properly-translated text.
Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!

All the best,
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RE: Supersense Feature Questions

[Johna Gravitt]

I prefer text descriptions and always knowing what column I'm in when reading 
the information.  Lastly, I'd love to see something like a color recognizer, 
but not just colors, patterns and shades of color too.  Is that something that 
is in the works?
Thanks,
Johna

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Subject: Supersense Feature Questions

Hey all!
I wanted to write and ask a few quick questions as we continue developing 
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First, we're working on adding something that will describe the visual aspects 
of an image. Would you prefer a textual description, like alt text, or would 
you prefer to explore the image on the screen of the phone similar to Seeing AI.
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Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!

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RE: Supersense Feature Questions

[Richard Turner]

Shane,
Seeing AI provides both, the text and an option to explore by touch.
Both would be good, but if one isn't going to be included, leave out the 
explore by touch and just include the text.

As for columns, the only point would be to have it accurately rendered.  To me, 
that includes knowing if you are in column 1 or 2, or 3...
Thanks,


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense Feature Questions

Hey all!
I wanted to write and ask a few quick questions as we continue developing 
Supersense!
First, we're working on adding something that will describe the visual aspects 
of an image. Would you prefer a textual description, like alt text, or would 
you prefer to explore the image on the screen of the phone similar to Seeing AI.
Along the same lines, we're almost finished with our column detector, and our 
developers are curious to know if you'd like to see the layout of the document 
(which info is in which columns) or just the properly-translated text.
Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!

All the best,
--
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Community Operations Manager @ Mediate
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RE: Supersense Feature Questions

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I would prefer text descriptions

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Hey all!
I wanted to write and ask a few quick questions as we continue developing 
Supersense!
First, we're working on adding something that will describe the visual aspects 
of an image. Would you prefer a textual description, like alt text, or would 
you prefer to explore the image on the screen of the phone similar to Seeing AI.
Along the same lines, we're almost finished with our column detector, and our 
developers are curious to know if you'd like to see the layout of the document 
(which info is in which columns) or just the properly-translated text.
Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!

All the best,
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Community Operations Manager @ Mediate
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Supersense Feature Questions

[Shane Lowe]

Hey all!
I wanted to write and ask a few quick questions as we continue
developing Supersense!
First, we're working on adding something that will describe the visual
aspects of an image. Would you prefer a textual description, like alt
text, or would you prefer to explore the image on the screen of the
phone similar to Seeing AI.
Along the same lines, we're almost finished with our column detector,
and our developers are curious to know if you'd like to see the layout
of the document (which info is in which columns) or just the
properly-translated text.
Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!

All the best,
-- 
Shane Lowe.
Community Operations Manager @ Mediate
Mobile (call or text): +1 502-435-2671
Learn more at http://supersense.app

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