RE: subscribing to the list

2021-03-06 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Thank you.
Alison


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I have a friend interested in subscribing to this group. Could someone please 
post the subscribe address?
Alison


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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thank you Mary,
I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
update if it breaks accessibility.
And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
they are monumentally stupid.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Mary,
>
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
> beta tester but read my license agreement(s).
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>
>>
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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

2021-03-06 Thread Donna Casteen
Hi,

The clicks are there when entering the lock screen passcode. The clicks are 
quiet, but can be heard if wearing earphones. Those with a hearing impairment 
may not be able to hear the clicks. The clicks are heard at the level that you 
hear them when typing out a message.

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi, Donna:
> My keyboard clicks are on.  Apple recently changed the clicks for the 
> passcode field to off for security reasons.  I had a lengthy conversation 
> with the apple tech support on Friday and pleaded that they change the no 
> clicks for passcode field to haptic feedback.  The tech said he’d send the 
> request on but who knows.
> Louise
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Go to settings, sounds & haptics, swipe down to keyboard clicks & tap to 
> toggle on.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> Hello:
> When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, 
> I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
> doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this 
> is for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I 
> cannot always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is 
> there any way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all 
> the time.  Thanks in advance.
> Louise Peyton
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Donna Casteen
Hi,

I do not own this kitchen appliance, so I can not test my idea. And it is 
possible that other beta testers have thought of this-Has anyone tried using 
screen recognition with the app while using IOS 14.5 beta?? I have a couple 
apps that only work with IOS 14.5 beta if screen recognition is used. Both apps 
are no longer updated. 

Donna
 
> 
> Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it 
> seems pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Mary,
>> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
>> update if it breaks accessibility.
>> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
>> they are monumentally stupid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>>> my license agreement(s). 
>>> 
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
 is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
 Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
 they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
 happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
 paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
 
 
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Re: AirPod Max User manual?

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Probably if Apple creates one. There isn't one available at this time.
I checked.


Richard

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airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
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young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:35 PM, sassyblindg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if they can get a book from Apple books for the AirPods max like 
they can for different iOS versions?

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2021, at 12:28 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Someone mentioned wanting to get an accessible user manual for the Airpod Max 
headphones.
As far as I can tell, there isn’t one as such.
Here is the info I got when searching for Airpods Max User Guide:
Adjust the settings for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro on iPad
If you have AirPods Max or AirPods Pro, you can adjust the accessibility 
settings to suit your motor or hearing needs. (AirPods Max requires iPadOS 14.3 
or later.)
1.Go to Settings  > Accessibility > AirPods.
2.If you have multiple AirPods, select one.
3.Set any of the following options:
· Press Speed: Adjust how quickly you must press two or three times 
before an action occurs.
· Press and Hold Duration: Adjust the duration required to press and 
hold on your AirPods.
· Follow iPad: Turn on spatial audio so surround sound (available with 
supported media content) seems to come from your iPad, even as you turn your 
head or move your device.
· Noise Cancellation with One AirPod: (AirPods Pro) Turn on noise 
cancellation even when you’re using only one of your AirPods.
4.For more options—such as Headphone Accommodations—tap Audio Accessibility 
Settings.




Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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Re: AirPod Max User manual?

2021-03-06 Thread sassyblindgirl
I wonder if they can get a book from Apple books for the AirPods max like they 
can for different iOS versions?

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 7, 2021, at 12:28 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Someone mentioned wanting to get an accessible user manual for the Airpod Max 
> headphones.
> As far as I can tell, there isn’t one as such.
> Here is the info I got when searching for Airpods Max User Guide:
> Adjust the settings for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro on iPad
> If you have AirPods Max or AirPods Pro, you can adjust the accessibility 
> settings to suit your  motor or hearing needs. (AirPods Max requires iPadOS 
> 14.3 or later.)
> 1.Go to Settings  > Accessibility > AirPods.
> 2.If you have multiple AirPods, select one.
> 3.Set any of the following options:
> · Press Speed: Adjust how quickly you must press two or three times 
> before an action occurs.
> · Press and Hold Duration: Adjust the duration required to press and 
> hold on your AirPods.
> · Follow iPad: Turn on spatial audio so surround sound (available 
> with supported media content) seems to come from your iPad, even as you turn 
> your head or move your device.
> · Noise Cancellation with One AirPod: (AirPods Pro) Turn on noise 
> cancellation even when you’re using only one of your AirPods.
> 4.For more options—such as Headphone Accommodations—tap Audio 
> Accessibility Settings.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
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> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
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AirPod Max User manual?

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Someone mentioned wanting to get an accessible user manual for the Airpod Max 
headphones.
As far as I can tell, there isn't one as such.
Here is the info I got when searching for Airpods Max User Guide:
Adjust the settings for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro on iPad
If you have AirPods Max or AirPods Pro, you can adjust the accessibility 
settings to suit your motor or hearing needs. (AirPods Max requires iPadOS 14.3 
or later.)
1.Go to Settings [cid:image001.png@01D712CF.AD0E6150]  > Accessibility > 
AirPods.
2.If you have multiple AirPods, select one.
3.Set any of the following options:
* Press Speed: Adjust how quickly you must press two or three times 
before an action occurs.
* Press and Hold Duration: Adjust the duration required to press and 
hold on your AirPods.
* Follow iPad: Turn on spatial audio so surround sound (available with 
supported media content) seems to come from your iPad, even as you turn your 
head or move your device.
* Noise Cancellation with One AirPod: (AirPods Pro) Turn on noise 
cancellation even when you're using only one of your AirPods.
4.For more options-such as Headphone Accommodations-tap Audio Accessibility 
Settings.




Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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RE: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Robert’s podcast is called The Tech Doctor.
The Tech Doctor Blog and Podcast (dr-carter.com)



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

Hi Robert, what is the name of your podcast? I would like to hear more about 
these. I’ve been listening to reviews about them on YouTube. Thank you in 
advance.

thank you, Juan
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Robert Carter 
mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am not sure exactly what you are asking? When transparency mode is on, the 
audio is still stereo if it was produced in stereo.

Robert



On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Robert,
After listening to your podcast about these headphones, I have a question.

I read that if you use the Live Listen mode, the audio you are listening to 
goes to mono.
Does that also happen with the transparency mode?

Thanks,

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Carter
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

Hi,

I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
and the battery life is excellent.

I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
Zoom.

I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. She 
loves them.

Robert Carter





On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie 
mailto:brizz...@pghvis.org>> wrote:

I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time will 
fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!

Bonnie Rizzino
Case Manager
Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
1816 Locust St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

No worries, I completely understand.
I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it really 
stretched my brain.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Rizzino, Bonnie
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do that. My 
only excuse is that I am working from home.

Bonnie Rizzino
Case Manager
Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
1816 Locust St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: 

Re: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread juan mojena
Hi Robert, what is the name of your podcast? I would like to hear more about 
these. I’ve been listening to reviews about them on YouTube. Thank you in 
advance.

thank you, Juan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:

I am not sure exactly what you are asking? When transparency mode is on, the 
audio is still stereo if it was produced in stereo.

Robert


> On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> After listening to your podcast about these headphones, I have a question.
>  
> I read that if you use the Live Listen mode, the audio you are listening to 
> goes to mono.
> Does that also happen with the transparency mode?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> Carter
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
> and the battery life is excellent.
>  
> I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
> Zoom.
>  
> I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. 
> She loves them.
>  
> Robert Carter
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie  wrote:
>  
> I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time 
> will fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> No worries, I completely understand.
> I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it 
> really stretched my brain.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do that. 
> My only excuse is that I am working from home.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> That is quite amazing.  That is better to me than just “very good.” (grin)
>  
> If anyone else has these headphones, please chime in with your experience.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> I apologize. Best guess 12 to 14 hours listening time at least.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> If you cannot be more specific, I understand, but very good is a little vague.
> Would you guess about 4 hours of use before they need to be charged?  Or 
> maybe 6?
> What is very good to one person may not be to another.
>  
> Thanks for any more detail you can give me.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 7:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> I have had them since mid-January and without keeping track of the specific 
> hours, it seems very good.
>  
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> 

Re: subscribing to the list

2021-03-06 Thread Shirley Baker
Sorry, I just realized I replied to the wrong message instead of the one asking 
about the talking microwave.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 10:17 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I got mine from blindmicemegamall.com and later on, their talking toaster 
> oven. You don’t have to connect to wi-fi with either of these ovens.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it is:
>> 
>> viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
>> Author Unknown.
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "CJ & AA MAY" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:44 PM
>> Subject: RE: subscribing to the list
>> 
>> 
>> I have a friend interested in subscribing to this group. Could someone 
>> please post the subscribe address?
>> Alison
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: 06 March 2021 17:29
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Thank you Mary,
>> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
>> update if it breaks accessibility.
>> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
>> they are monumentally stupid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I'll take my chances thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> This is a violation of Apple's nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
>>> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
>>> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
>>> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
>>> beta tester but read my license agreement(s).
>>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
> they don't make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won't be 
> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
> 
> 
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Re: subscribing to the list

2021-03-06 Thread Shirley Baker
I got mine from blindmicemegamall.com and later on, their talking toaster oven. 
You don’t have to connect to wi-fi with either of these ovens.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is:
> 
> viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
> Author Unknown.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "CJ & AA MAY" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:44 PM
> Subject: RE: subscribing to the list
> 
> 
> I have a friend interested in subscribing to this group. Could someone 
> please post the subscribe address?
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 March 2021 17:29
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Thank you Mary,
> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
> update if it breaks accessibility.
> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
> they are monumentally stupid.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I'll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple's nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
>> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
>> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
>> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
>> beta tester but read my license agreement(s).
>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don't make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won't be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Question about Airpod Max accessories?

2021-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
A pair of cushions come with the AirPods Max.  Power adapter and Lightning to 
3.5 mm cable are extras.
Replacement ear-piece cushions are also available.

- Brad -


On Mar 6, 2021, at 21:18, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:

I see the audio cable and the power adaptor. And I see cushions, but are those 
extra or you get them without the cushions? Just didn’t want to buy what I do 
not need?
 

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Question about Airpod Max accessories?

2021-03-06 Thread Deb Cook Lewis
I see the audio cable and the power adaptor. And I see cushions, but are
those extra or you get them without the cushions? Just didn't want to buy
what I do not need?

 

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Re: New Sonos product about to be announced

2021-03-06 Thread Kelly Pierce
That’s $573 in US currency. The price at Best buy in the states is
$400. Both the move and the small new one will have both Bluetooth and
Wi-Fi audio.

Kelly



On 3/6/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Great
> Thanks,
>
> And portable speaker,
> What the Move isn’t cheap enough for you?
>
> Over here in nz it retails for 800 dollars,
>
> Blows the other portable speakers out of the water
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, 7 March 2021 6:53 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New Sonos product about to be announced
>
> Hi,
>
> Thought I mention this and maybe generate a bit of excitement among all of
> the Sonos fans on this list:
>
> Sonos - Join us for a special event
> To show our gratitude for your support over the years, we’d like to invite
> you to join us for an exclusive first look at the latest addition to the
> Sonos system.
> Tuesday, March 9, 2021
> 1:00 PM PT
> You’re the reason we get to continue innovating, and we’re so excited to
> share this next step forward with you. Keep an eye out for a link to the
> event.
>
> I assume I won't get the link until Monday or maybe even Tuesday morning,
> but I'm sure curious and I was really hoping it would finally be a Sonos
> headset, but based on what The Verge has discovered a headset seems to be
> finally in the works, but this event will be for a smaller more affordable
> portable speaker which is meant to compete with speakers like the UE Boom 2
> and Bose Soundlink Revolve:
>
> Sonos confirms March 9th product launch, hints at smaller portable
> speaker
>
> Here another article from the Gear Patrol:
>
> Sonos Has Something New Coming. Here's What We Know So
> Far
>
>
> Enjoy,
> Sieghard
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Re: Is Voxer accessible?

2021-03-06 Thread Beth G
Hi,


It’s an app that gives you access to remote coaches. Is that the same thing 
that you’re referring to? It could be an email program, but I wasn’t sure if it 
was texting, emails, or what.

Thanks,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 4:09 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean VMWare Boxer, the email app?  If so, it seems OK so far for the 
> email, but I'm not liking the calendar function interface. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is Voxer accessible?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As a subject line says, is this app accessible? My understanding is this is 
> an app, not a computer program. But, does it work with voiceover?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Beth
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Re: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Andy Baracco
I am getting the space gray as well.  I received the cable today, but will have 
to wait a while for the headphones.  Now if I could only find an accessible 
copy of the user guide.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 5:00 PM
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions


  I too have jumped on the band wagon and order them today.

  I went for the Space Gray, and it says they will be here between March 23-30.

  I was going to get the Sky Blue, but didn’t want to wait an extra 3 to 4 
weeks.

  I at least know I can return them if I am not hooked, but I suspect I will be 
keeping them.  We shall see, or hear.

   

   

   

  Richard

   

  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

   

   

  My web site, www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
  Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:46 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  Hi Andy,

   

  Well, I ordered mine yesterday as well. I expect to receive mine between 
April 19 and April 26. The reviews have been so good that I decided to get 
them. And I didn’t think I would, I thought they were too much money, but here 
I am. Anyway, I have an Apple card and I am paying for them over a six-month 
period. There was no interest charge to do this.

   

  Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 6, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

 

I ordered them yesterday.  i also ordered the lightning to 3.5 cable which 
i received today, but I will have to wait until about April 13th for the 
headset.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 3:29 PM

  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  Yuma,

  You mentioned something that makes me wonder.

  You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?

   

  Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows 
computer?

   

   

   

   

  Richard

   

  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

   

   

  My web site, www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Yuma Decaux
  Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:

   

  1-They are extremely comfortable

  2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule 
and back out

  3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with 
no lag from the bluetooth

  4-The sound quality is simply top notch.

  5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go 
along

  6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.

   

   

  Cheers,

   

  Yuma 

   






On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are 
fantastic and the battery life is excellent.

 

I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great 
with Zoom.

 

I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple 
TV. She loves them.

 

Robert Carter

 

 






  On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie  
wrote:

   

  I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose 
time will fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!

   

  Bonnie Rizzino

  Case Manager

  Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

  1816 Locust St.

  Pittsburgh, PA 15219

  www.bvrspittsburgh.org

  412-368-4400 X2246

  Direct dial 412-368-4079

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  No worries, I completely understand.

  I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and 
it really stretched my brain.

   

   

   

   

  Richard

   

  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

   

   

  My web site, www.turner42.com

   

   


RE: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
I too have jumped on the band wagon and order them today.
I went for the Space Gray, and it says they will be here between March 23-30.
I was going to get the Sky Blue, but didn’t want to wait an extra 3 to 4 weeks.
I at least know I can return them if I am not hooked, but I suspect I will be 
keeping them.  We shall see, or hear.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

Hi Andy,

Well, I ordered mine yesterday as well. I expect to receive mine between April 
19 and April 26. The reviews have been so good that I decided to get them. And 
I didn’t think I would, I thought they were too much money, but here I am. 
Anyway, I have an Apple card and I am paying for them over a six-month period. 
There was no interest charge to do this.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 6, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:

I ordered them yesterday.  i also ordered the lightning to 3.5 cable which i 
received today, but I will have to wait until about April 13th for the headset.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

Yuma,
You mentioned something that makes me wonder.
You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?

Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows computer?




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Yuma 
Decaux
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:

1-They are extremely comfortable
2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule and back 
out
3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with no 
lag from the bluetooth
4-The sound quality is simply top notch.
5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go along
6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.


Cheers,

Yuma




On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter 
mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
and the battery life is excellent.

I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
Zoom.

I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. She 
loves them.

Robert Carter





On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie 
mailto:brizz...@pghvis.org>> wrote:

I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time will 
fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!

Bonnie Rizzino
Case Manager
Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
1816 Locust St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

No worries, I completely understand.
I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it really 
stretched my brain.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 

Re: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Andy,

Well, I ordered mine yesterday as well. I expect to receive mine between April 
19 and April 26. The reviews have been so good that I decided to get them. And 
I didn’t think I would, I thought they were too much money, but here I am. 
Anyway, I have an Apple card and I am paying for them over a six-month period. 
There was no interest charge to do this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 6:48 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> 
> I ordered them yesterday.  i also ordered the lightning to 3.5 cable which i 
> received today, but I will have to wait until about April 13th for the 
> headset.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
> 
> Yuma,
> You mentioned something that makes me wonder.
> You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
> Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?
>  
> Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows 
> computer?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:
>  
> 1-They are extremely comfortable
> 2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule and 
> back out
> 3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with no 
> lag from the bluetooth
> 4-The sound quality is simply top notch.
> 5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go along
> 6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.
>  
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Yuma 
>  
> 
> 
> On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
> and the battery life is excellent.
>  
> I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
> Zoom.
>  
> I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. 
> She loves them.
>  
> Robert Carter
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie  wrote:
>  
> I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time 
> will fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> No worries, I completely understand.
> I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it 
> really stretched my brain.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do that. 
> My only excuse is that I am working from home.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> That is quite amazing.  That is better to me than just “very good.” (grin)
>  
> If anyone else has these headphones, please chime in with your experience.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> I apologize. Best guess 12 to 14 hours listening time at least.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max 

Re: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Andy Baracco
I ordered them yesterday.  i also ordered the lightning to 3.5 cable which i 
received today, but I will have to wait until about April 13th for the headset.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 3:29 PM
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions


  Yuma,

  You mentioned something that makes me wonder.

  You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?

   

  Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows 
computer?

   

   

   

   

  Richard

   

  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

   

   

  My web site, www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
Decaux
  Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:

   

  1-They are extremely comfortable

  2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule and 
back out

  3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with no 
lag from the bluetooth

  4-The sound quality is simply top notch.

  5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go along

  6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.

   

   

  Cheers,

   

  Yuma 

   





On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are 
fantastic and the battery life is excellent.

 

I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great 
with Zoom.

 

I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. 
She loves them.

 

Robert Carter

 

 





  On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie  wrote:

   

  I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time 
will fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!

   

  Bonnie Rizzino

  Case Manager

  Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

  1816 Locust St.

  Pittsburgh, PA 15219

  www.bvrspittsburgh.org

  412-368-4400 X2246

  Direct dial 412-368-4079

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  No worries, I completely understand.

  I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it 
really stretched my brain.

   

   

   

   

  Richard

   

  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

   

   

  My web site, www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Rizzino, Bonnie
  Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do 
that. My only excuse is that I am working from home.

   

  Bonnie Rizzino

  Case Manager

  Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

  1816 Locust St.

  Pittsburgh, PA 15219

  www.bvrspittsburgh.org

  412-368-4400 X2246

  Direct dial 412-368-4079

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:01 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  That is quite amazing.  That is better to me than just “very good.” (grin)

   

  If anyone else has these headphones, please chime in with your experience.

   

   

   

   

   

  Richard

   

  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

   

   

  My web site, www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Rizzino, Bonnie
  Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 7:57 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

   

  I apologize. Best guess 12 to 14 hours listening time at least.

   

  Bonnie Rizzino

  Case Manager

  Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

  1816 Locust St.

  Pittsburgh, PA 15219

  www.bvrspittsburgh.org

  412-368-4400 X2246

  Direct dial 412-368-4079

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 

Re: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Yuma Decaux
Bluetooth will have some form of lag no matter what, as it’s not quantum 
transmissions. And when you’re working on code for example, you don’t want any 
lag between when you type the key and you hear it. using the lightning to Jack 
connector gives you direct audio input instead of Bluetooth, where there is no 
lag at all. I haven’t tried this on any Windows platform, I don’t use anything 
Windows related.Or anything Microsoft related as a matter of fact.

Sent from sputnik7 

> On 7/03/2021, at 9:30 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yuma,
> You mentioned something that makes me wonder.
> You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
> Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?
>  
> Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows 
> computer?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:
>  
> 1-They are extremely comfortable
> 2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule and 
> back out
> 3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with no 
> lag from the bluetooth
> 4-The sound quality is simply top notch.
> 5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go along
> 6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.
>  
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Yuma 
>  
> 
> 
> On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
> and the battery life is excellent.
>  
> I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
> Zoom.
>  
> I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. 
> She loves them.
>  
> Robert Carter
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie  wrote:
>  
> I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time 
> will fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> No worries, I completely understand.
> I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it 
> really stretched my brain.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do that. 
> My only excuse is that I am working from home.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> That is quite amazing.  That is better to me than just “very good.” (grin)
>  
> If anyone else has these headphones, please chime in with your experience.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> I apologize. Best guess 12 to 14 hours listening time at least.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> If you cannot be more specific, I understand, but very good is a little vague.
> Would you guess about 4 hours of use before they need to be charged?  Or 
> maybe 6?
> What is very good to one person may not be to another.
>  
> Thanks for 

RE: New Sonos product about to be announced

2021-03-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Great
Thanks,

And portable speaker,
What the Move isn’t cheap enough for you?

Over here in nz it retails for 800 dollars,

Blows the other portable speakers out of the water

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 7 March 2021 6:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New Sonos product about to be announced

Hi,

Thought I mention this and maybe generate a bit of excitement among all of the 
Sonos fans on this list:

Sonos - Join us for a special event
To show our gratitude for your support over the years, we’d like to invite you 
to join us for an exclusive first look at the latest addition to the Sonos 
system.
Tuesday, March 9, 2021
1:00 PM PT
You’re the reason we get to continue innovating, and we’re so excited to share 
this next step forward with you. Keep an eye out for a link to the event.

I assume I won't get the link until Monday or maybe even Tuesday morning, but 
I'm sure curious and I was really hoping it would finally be a Sonos headset, 
but based on what The Verge has discovered a headset seems to be finally in the 
works, but this event will be for a smaller more affordable portable speaker 
which is meant to compete with speakers like the UE Boom 2 and Bose Soundlink 
Revolve:

Sonos confirms March 9th product launch, hints at smaller portable 
speaker

Here another article from the Gear Patrol:

Sonos Has Something New Coming. Here's What We Know So 
Far


Enjoy,
Sieghard

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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I'd say thanks for the update or alert to this if I was a user of the product,

But if you are a public beta tester,
Then I'd hope you have fed the issue back to apple regarding what is happening.

 But again thanks for letting us know.

It could help people figure out issues when / if 14.5 is released to the world.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, 7 March 2021 6:06 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: AirPods Max first impressions

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Yuma,
You mentioned something that makes me wonder.
You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?

Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows computer?




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
Decaux
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions

As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:

1-They are extremely comfortable
2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule and back 
out
3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with no 
lag from the bluetooth
4-The sound quality is simply top notch.
5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go along
6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.


Cheers,

Yuma



On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter 
mailto:nc5rn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
and the battery life is excellent.

I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
Zoom.

I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. She 
loves them.

Robert Carter




On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie 
mailto:brizz...@pghvis.org>> wrote:

I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time will 
fly, or at least that's what everybody tells me!  (smile)!

Bonnie Rizzino
Case Manager
Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
1816 Locust St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

No worries, I completely understand.
I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it really 
stretched my brain.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Rizzino, Bonnie
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do that. My 
only excuse is that I am working from home.

Bonnie Rizzino
Case Manager
Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
1816 Locust St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions

That is quite amazing.  That is better to me than just "very good." (grin)

If anyone else has these headphones, please chime in with your experience.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 

Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
Thanks for your clarification. I was, but now I know it wasn’t directed at me.
Thanks 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> If you're referring to my email, it wasn't directed at you. I was directing 
> it at the person who said only a few misguided blind people honor the NDA 
> they agreed to when they joined the beta program. You said the exact 
> opposite. In other words, I'm directing this at the person who said you are 
> misguided.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
> MacDonald
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
> Subject: Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]
> 
> I never intended to come across this way. I appolagise. I never float any NDA 
> , and abide by them whole heartedly. 
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
>> agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose 
>> to honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make 
>> the same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics 
>> that violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, 
>> but I suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners 
>> and moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. 
>> You're probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're 
>> encouraging people to disregard the terms of their participation in the 
>> Apple beta doesn't come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's 
>> beta programs. 
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>>> my license agreement(s). 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
 is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
 Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
 they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
 happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
 paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
 
 
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RE: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you're referring to my email, it wasn't directed at you. I was directing it 
at the person who said only a few misguided blind people honor the NDA they 
agreed to when they joined the beta program. You said the exact opposite. In 
other words, I'm directing this at the person who said you are misguided.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
Subject: Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

I never intended to come across this way. I appolagise. I never float any NDA   
, and abide by them whole heartedly. 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
> agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose 
> to honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make 
> the same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics that 
> violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, but I 
> suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners and 
> moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. You're 
> probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're 
> encouraging people to disregard the terms of their participation in the Apple 
> beta doesn't come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's beta 
> programs. 
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Is Voxer accessible?

2021-03-06 Thread R Van Lant
Do you mean VMWare Boxer, the email app?  If so, it seems OK so far for the 
email, but I'm not liking the calendar function interface. 
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Voxer accessible?

Hi,

As a subject line says, is this app accessible? My understanding is this is an 
app, not a computer program. But, does it work with voiceover?

Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

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Sonos and BARD

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
For those who use Sonos speakers and the BARD mobile app, if you airplay to one 
Sonos speaker, you can open the sonos app on your mobile device or computer and 
select any or all of the other speakers to have on in the group so it plays 
where you like.
In my case, I streamed it to the speaker in my office, then went to the group 
which had everything checked other than my office because of what I had last 
played through the Sonos speakers.  By checking my office so the whole group 
was checked, and hit done, my book is now playing in all of our rooms with the 
Sonos speakers.
You can pause and play from the Sonos app at this point.

Very slick.



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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Johna Gravitt
Just adding my two cents for what it’s worth, when I spoke to Insta pot 
customer service, and actually ask them about accessibility issues they told me 
to use the Bluetooth model but then told me that they were no longer supporting 
it. I told them that I had purchased a smart Wi-Fi model and that app was not 
accessible at that time and they said they had no plans on updating it for the 
first seeable future, then they told me to purchase a Bluetooth one. I said to 
them why would I purchase the Bluetooth if it’s no longer being supported and 
they said because it was the only one blind people should use. I really don’t 
like them, or their customer service, or their business model. Just my two 
cents worth. My daughter will now be happy with me because she is getting my 
Insta pot

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
> complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
> WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit 
> of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what 
> guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting 
> edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their 
> estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or 
> even want Alexa?
> Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
> outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
> surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. Yesterday, I 
> busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's phone and just 
> use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out I've still 
> got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with my IP and 
> made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for now, I'll 
> be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future since I 
> don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm the 
> exception to this situation. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
> Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
> Shawnese (LEO)
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
> newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
> previous smart cooker app. 
> 
> It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
> members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 
> 
> Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
> app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
> blind or visually impaired. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
> ab...@michigan.gov
> 
> 
> 
> Johna,
> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
> just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that 
> I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I 
> could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got 
> sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat 
> sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>> 
>> Johna
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how 
>> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>> 

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Kay Malmquist
Well, that sucks.  Pretty much what I thought, but it was worth trying.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message - 
From: "Deb Cook Lewis" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


No, it doesn't work. Once it's gone from the App store it's not available to 
download at all.
Family Sharing just shows apple that you're entitled, it doesn't actually 
make anything available.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and 
put the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope 
this makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the 
habit of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, 
what guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and 
cutting edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in 
their estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't 
have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not 
terribly surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though.
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns 
out I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection 
with my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least 
for now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable 
future since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm 
sure I'm the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the 
new app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
blind or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default.
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.


RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Deb Cook Lewis
No, it doesn't work. Once it's gone from the App store it's not available to 
download at all.
Family Sharing just shows apple that you're entitled, it doesn't actually make 
anything available.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and put 
the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope this 
makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer WIFI 
model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit of 
replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what guaranty 
is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting edge today 
will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their estimation? Once 
bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out 
I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with 
my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for 
now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future 
since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm 
the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve 

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and put 
the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope this 
makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the 
habit of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, 
what guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and 
cutting edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in 
their estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't 
have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not 
terribly surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns 
out I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection 
with my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least 
for now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable 
future since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm 
sure I'm the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the 
new app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
blind or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I'm just wondering how 
> you manage to get the Wi-Fi 

Re: subscribing to the list

2021-03-06 Thread Kay Malmquist
Yes, it is:

viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Hope this helps.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message - 
From: "CJ & AA MAY" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: subscribing to the list


I have a friend interested in subscribing to this group. Could someone 
please post the subscribe address?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 March 2021 17:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thank you Mary,
I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
update if it breaks accessibility.
And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
they are monumentally stupid.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
blind people who think Apple actually cares. I'll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
>
> ?Hello Mary,
>
> This is a violation of Apple's nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
> beta tester but read my license agreement(s).
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don't make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won't be 
>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Kay Malmquist
Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and 
put the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope 
this makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
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"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
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- Original Message - 
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the 
habit of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, 
what guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and 
cutting edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in 
their estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't 
have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not 
terribly surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns 
out I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection 
with my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least 
for now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable 
future since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm 
sure I'm the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the 
new app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
blind or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I'm just wondering how 
> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don't have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but 
>> it doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across 
>> chatter on this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I 
>> didn't pay much attention to it since the smart cooker app worked 

Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

2021-03-06 Thread doug parisian
Louise, I think I have your password keyboard moving characters solved.  
And yes, I too miss the password clicks but I simply keep entering the 
requirements and the field does indeed get filled.


Now then, once in the edit field, you can use the rotor to select 
exactly how you want your keyboard to respond when entering characters,  
To keep things short, I set my rotor as follows:


1I select "slide to type" to on.

2. Turn your rotor until you hear "typing mode." Swipe down until you 
hear "touch typing."


If you follow these steps everything will go as smooth as silk. With 
these settings, you simply slid your finger around and lift it when you 
year the letter or symbol you want, and it just works.  There might be 
one more adjustment you need to make in settings which I don't recall 
off hand.  Let us know and I'll dig it up if this doesn't work for you.


On 2021-03-06 12:43 p.m., Louise Peyton wrote:


Yes.  I had a long conversation with Apple tech support on Friday.  I 
asked them that when they do a new version that they use haptic 
feedback because the numbers skip around.


Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 7:53 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Do you double-tap?

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

*Sent:* Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone 
skips to another number.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find “emergency” and 
flick left and right until the number I want speaks and then double 
tap on that.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

*Sent:* Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi:

I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency 
button which made me go back. Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can 
I skip the pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers 
jumping around. Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Brad Snyder

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:

1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere 
on your iPhone’s screen.


2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your 
passcode, then perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen to enter this digit.


3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode 
have been successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.


This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger 
around the screen to locate each digit of your passcode.


- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton > wrote:


Hello:

When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field 
provided, I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the 
latest version of ios doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the 
right numbers. Apple says this is for security reasons. Because my 
hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot always get the numbers 
entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any way to get 
around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer WIFI 
model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit of 
replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what guaranty 
is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting edge today 
will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their estimation? Once 
bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. Yesterday, I 
busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's phone and just 
use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out I've still got 
the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with my IP and made 
sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for now, I'll be able 
to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future since I don't need 
that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm the exception to this 
situation. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
 wrote:
>>>
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing 

RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

2021-03-06 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
Different folks for different folks I suppose. Where as you don’t see the need 
for the extras on certain items, I on the other hand have no need or desire for 
an Apple watch or even Alexa for example. I in turn don’t see the point to what 
the Peloton offers with its workout programs and live coaches and all those 
bells and whistles, but I’m sure others find that to be what’s attractive about 
that equipment. 

I just want to be able to somehow access the same info I’d be able to see if I 
could visually look at my bike’s output display. 

See my progress, chart my miles logged etc. No different than wanting the same 
on a treadmill or even going for a walk for that matter. What’s the point to 
going for a leisurely stroll other than trying to get the semblance of a 
workout in? try to see if you can increase your distance, maybe pick up the 
pace and cover more ground in a shorter period of time with the apps on your 
phone? 

I’m more inclined to buy the accessories separately to make my “dumb” bike a 
bit smarter as opposed to buying a smart bike whereas the Bluetooth Instant Pot 
episode shows, built in accessibility can be a fickle thing. All things being 
equal, I’d opt for the more analog option or at least where there’s a backup or 
workaround in case the technology or app or whatever breaks.

Either way, it’s good we have options to fit our particular use cases and needs.

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

 

Hi Cristobal,

 

We purchased a spin bike a while ago and it's also very simple and without any 
smart features. My wife and I do have Apple Watches so we use them to set 
whatever we want to do, mostly just by time, e.g. a 15-minute, 20-minute etc. 
indoor bike workout. I find it is nice enough to see my heart rate, calories 
burned and so on, but personally I don't get it why I would want all that other 
stuff, e.g. distance, cadence and so on. I couldn't care less how far these 
electronic gadgets thinks I biked, I mean, I'm just in one spot and as long as 
I get a workout then that is what I want. To me a lot of these gadgets are ways 
to liberate me from my hard-earned Dollars and I find there is just too many 
ways for me to spend it so in recent years I have really scaled back the gadget 
stuff and I ask myself if I really want let alone need something.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

 

Hello Richard,

If only it were that simple. This CNet articles gives a quick breakdown on what 
one would need to make a “dumb” bike smarter: 
https://www.cnet.com/health/diy-peloton-bike-how-to-build-your-own-smart-cycle/

There are gadgets that measure power output and that can measure distance along 
with heart rate, but as always the question for us is what’s accessible. 

Simon’s response was helpful in letting me know that Wahoo’s platform and 
products are more or less accessible for example. 

One can go all out to try to replicate the Peloton experience, but I just 
really want access to my workout stats. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

 

I would think that the phone in your pocket would track your steps if you 
enabled that in the health app, or a pedometer app. 

And, doesn't the Fitbit track heart rate if you do not want the Apple Watch?

Just some thoughts.

 

Richard

 

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airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Cristobal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello list,

So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike 
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources on 
this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling out the 
big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.

I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong and 
am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I think I’d 
be more inclined to buying a more 

Re: subscribing to the list

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Richard Turner

Sent: 06 March 2021 17:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thank you Mary,
I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
update if it breaks accessibility.
And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
they are monumentally stupid.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten

Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
 wrote:


Hello Mary,

This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
beta tester but read my license agreement(s).



On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 March 2021 17:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thank you Mary,
I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
if it breaks accessibility.
And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
they are monumentally stupid.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
I never intended to come across this way. I appolagise. I never float any NDA   
, and abide by them whole heartedly. 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
> agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose 
> to honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make 
> the same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics that 
> violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, but I 
> suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners and 
> moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. You're 
> probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're 
> encouraging people to disregard the terms of their participation in the Apple 
> beta doesn't come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's beta 
> programs. 
> 
> --
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

2021-03-06 Thread Louise Peyton
Yes.  I had a long conversation with Apple tech support on Friday.  I asked 
them that when they do a new version that they use haptic feedback because the 
numbers skip around.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Do you double-tap?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone skips to 
another number.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find "emergency" and flick left 
and right until the number I want speaks and then double tap on that.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi:
I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I'm tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone's screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone's screen.
2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone's screen to enter this 
digit.
3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.

This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don't want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton

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Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hi Siegard.  Just to let you know, if you want to resume playback of
your audible book, you don't always have to go back into the book
details and hit the play button again.  When you open your audible app
after beginning to play a book from the details tab, your home screen
should be your default tab, and you should find the book you are
listening to, just hit the play button, and there you go.  Its easy.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I agree, let's hope a few of the people on this list will take a few minutes
> to send an email to Audible to request this functionality.
> To make it even easier, the email address is:
>
> audible-iphone-feedb...@audible.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Good catch.
> I think it should be set up the way the Overcast Podcast app works.  You can
> set your default to stream or download.  Then, those who don't want it
> downloaded, can just stream it when they hit play.
>
> It really should be a more obvious place instead of buried like that.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Hello Richard,
>
> Actually Joshua's directions seem to be correct, if you go to the Book
> Details you do have both a Play and a Download button for titles which are
> not already downloaded. If you already downloaded the title there is simply
> a Play button.
> I very much thank Joshua for this little bit of information because I
> honestly had never noticed it and when I just tried this with a book I had
> not downloaded it seems to work just fine.
> I tapped Play and the book started playing, I listened for a minute and then
> stopped the book and when I went back into book details I still had both the
> play and download buttons and when I went to the Downloaded tab in my
> Library the book I had just played was not there so it definitely seems to
> be streaming.
> This is very useful, but I wish Audible added this functionality to the
> rotor options, e.g. instead of just "Activate", Mark as Finished, Add to
> Favorites and Add to Collection they could add a "Stream" option, in this
> case the "Activate" default function could still be set to download a book,
> but if you wanted to stream the title you could just flick down once to
> "Stream" instead of having to swipe right to menu, activate it, then
> activate Book Details and find the Play button.
> I will read this one book where I tried this entirely this way because I
> also want to see if once I finish it will be marked as finished. If so I
> think I will probably end up streaming most of my books because I am usually
> at home on WiFi and in any case, for the short periods of time when I am out
> and about like when I walk to work (about 20 minutes) I have so much data
> that I never use it all up anyways and I can still download a book if I have
> to. In fact, I think Audible should make streaming the default just like
> with apps such as Netflix where you have to download the movie if you want
> to otherwise it just streams.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> As far as I know, once upon a time, long, long, ago, you could stream
> audible books with the audible app, but I think now it automatically
> downloads the book when you begin to play it.
>
> Other than using an Echo device, I find no way to simply stream an audible
> book.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C58262111a5ea4c609b5008d8e0c532e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637506484857242355%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=wGG0EBdJO5YWyoqK9UeC8NkaNHX6ftSWFB3ZJ9qBAQs%3Dreserved=0
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way
> to stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
> What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?
>
>
> 

RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

2021-03-06 Thread Louise Peyton
Hi, Donna:
My keyboard clicks are on.  Apple recently changed the clicks for the passcode 
field to off for security reasons.  I had a lengthy conversation with the apple 
tech support on Friday and pleaded that they change the no clicks for passcode 
field to haptic feedback.  The tech said he'd send the request on but who knows.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi,

Go to settings, sounds & haptics, swipe down to keyboard clicks & tap to toggle 
on.

Donna


Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don't want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton

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RE: New Sonos product about to be announced

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Sieghard,
Are you on some special Sonos list?
I didn't get any announcement about this event.
I'd be interested since I could be available at that time to listen.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New Sonos product about to be announced

Hi,

Thought I mention this and maybe generate a bit of excitement among all of the 
Sonos fans on this list:

Sonos - Join us for a special event
To show our gratitude for your support over the years, we'd like to invite you 
to join us for an exclusive first look at the latest addition to the Sonos 
system.
Tuesday, March 9, 2021
1:00 PM PT
You're the reason we get to continue innovating, and we're so excited to share 
this next step forward with you. Keep an eye out for a link to the event.

I assume I won't get the link until Monday or maybe even Tuesday morning, but 
I'm sure curious and I was really hoping it would finally be a Sonos headset, 
but based on what The Verge has discovered a headset seems to be finally in the 
works, but this event will be for a smaller more affordable portable speaker 
which is meant to compete with speakers like the UE Boom 2 and Bose Soundlink 
Revolve:

Sonos confirms March 9th product launch, hints at smaller portable 
speaker

Here another article from the Gear Patrol:

Sonos Has Something New Coming. Here's What We Know So 
Far


Enjoy,
Sieghard

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Re: False Alarm Regarding Facebook App

2021-03-06 Thread Tom Lange
You’re absolutely right. That was the issue. I’ve never known a VoiceOver 
feature to completely change the screen layout of an app. It’s the craziest 
thing I’ve run across in quite some time. Does Screen Recognition mess with 
other apps? 

Tom 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You probably turned on screen recognition accidently. In the Facebook app 
> this really messes things up.
> Try it, when in Facebook turn the rotor to screen recognition and turn it on, 
> now of course you know what the reason is you can easily turn it off again 
> and all is back to normal, but this way you can check if this was your issue.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Lange
> Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 5:32 PM
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> Subject: False Alarm Regarding Facebook App
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> Hi all,
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> app. I have no idea how the layout got all messed up on my iPhone 12, but I 
> rebooted the phone and all is well. So, disregard my earlier post. Maybe 
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> Tom
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
IN fact, there are a lot of YouTube videos put out talking far more extensively 
about beta content that I think truly go overboard, but Apple does nothing to 
lock those down, so a few blind people talking about accessibility issues on a 
list that Apple probably completely ignores isn't going to put anyone at Apple 
nose's out of joint.

Normally, I would be saying not to disclose this information, but it is 
critical information that could impact the use of a product that people paid 
good money for, so it warrants being exposed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it seems 
pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Mary,
> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
> if it breaks accessibility.
> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
> they are monumentally stupid.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C735f998c826948ad27a408d8e0c9c794%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637506504535895726%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=MDehtr0dG2eDUa9rM9DizWtKBh%2Fi9nEZxpYDBnmUqF4%3Dreserved=0
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it seems 
pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Mary,
> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
> if it breaks accessibility.
> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
> they are monumentally stupid.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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New Sonos product about to be announced

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

Thought I mention this and maybe generate a bit of excitement among all of the 
Sonos fans on this list:

Sonos - Join us for a special event
To show our gratitude for your support over the years, we'd like to invite you 
to join us for an exclusive first look at the latest addition to the Sonos 
system.
Tuesday, March 9, 2021
1:00 PM PT
You're the reason we get to continue innovating, and we're so excited to share 
this next step forward with you. Keep an eye out for a link to the event.

I assume I won't get the link until Monday or maybe even Tuesday morning, but 
I'm sure curious and I was really hoping it would finally be a Sonos headset, 
but based on what The Verge has discovered a headset seems to be finally in the 
works, but this event will be for a smaller more affordable portable speaker 
which is meant to compete with speakers like the UE Boom 2 and Bose Soundlink 
Revolve:

Sonos confirms March 9th product launch, hints at smaller portable 
speaker

Here another article from the Gear Patrol:

Sonos Has Something New Coming. Here's What We Know So 
Far


Enjoy,
Sieghard

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NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose to 
honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make the 
same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics that 
violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, but I 
suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners and 
moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. You're 
probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're encouraging 
people to disregard the terms of their participation in the Apple beta doesn't 
come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's beta programs. 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I agree, let's hope a few of the people on this list will take a few minutes to 
send an email to Audible to request this functionality.
To make it even easier, the email address is:

audible-iphone-feedb...@audible.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Good catch.
I think it should be set up the way the Overcast Podcast app works.  You can 
set your default to stream or download.  Then, those who don't want it 
downloaded, can just stream it when they hit play.

It really should be a more obvious place instead of buried like that.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Hello Richard,

Actually Joshua's directions seem to be correct, if you go to the Book Details 
you do have both a Play and a Download button for titles which are not already 
downloaded. If you already downloaded the title there is simply a Play button.
I very much thank Joshua for this little bit of information because I honestly 
had never noticed it and when I just tried this with a book I had not 
downloaded it seems to work just fine.
I tapped Play and the book started playing, I listened for a minute and then 
stopped the book and when I went back into book details I still had both the 
play and download buttons and when I went to the Downloaded tab in my Library 
the book I had just played was not there so it definitely seems to be streaming.
This is very useful, but I wish Audible added this functionality to the rotor 
options, e.g. instead of just "Activate", Mark as Finished, Add to Favorites 
and Add to Collection they could add a "Stream" option, in this case the 
"Activate" default function could still be set to download a book, but if you 
wanted to stream the title you could just flick down once to "Stream" instead 
of having to swipe right to menu, activate it, then activate Book Details and 
find the Play button.
I will read this one book where I tried this entirely this way because I also 
want to see if once I finish it will be marked as finished. If so I think I 
will probably end up streaming most of my books because I am usually at home on 
WiFi and in any case, for the short periods of time when I am out and about 
like when I walk to work (about 20 minutes) I have so much data that I never 
use it all up anyways and I can still download a book if I have to. In fact, I 
think Audible should make streaming the default just like with apps such as 
Netflix where you have to download the movie if you want to otherwise it just 
streams.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

As far as I know, once upon a time, long, long, ago, you could stream audible 
books with the audible app, but I think now it automatically downloads the book 
when you begin to play it.

Other than using an Echo device, I find no way to simply stream an audible book.



Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way to 
stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to my 
iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the app 
gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your iPhone 
you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It does have a link to "Download app" in 

RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Good catch.
I think it should be set up the way the Overcast Podcast app works.  You can 
set your default to stream or download.  Then, those who don't want it 
downloaded, can just stream it when they hit play.

It really should be a more obvious place instead of buried like that.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Hello Richard,

Actually Joshua's directions seem to be correct, if you go to the Book Details 
you do have both a Play and a Download button for titles which are not already 
downloaded. If you already downloaded the title there is simply a Play button.
I very much thank Joshua for this little bit of information because I honestly 
had never noticed it and when I just tried this with a book I had not 
downloaded it seems to work just fine.
I tapped Play and the book started playing, I listened for a minute and then 
stopped the book and when I went back into book details I still had both the 
play and download buttons and when I went to the Downloaded tab in my Library 
the book I had just played was not there so it definitely seems to be streaming.
This is very useful, but I wish Audible added this functionality to the rotor 
options, e.g. instead of just "Activate", Mark as Finished, Add to Favorites 
and Add to Collection they could add a "Stream" option, in this case the 
"Activate" default function could still be set to download a book, but if you 
wanted to stream the title you could just flick down once to "Stream" instead 
of having to swipe right to menu, activate it, then activate Book Details and 
find the Play button.
I will read this one book where I tried this entirely this way because I also 
want to see if once I finish it will be marked as finished. If so I think I 
will probably end up streaming most of my books because I am usually at home on 
WiFi and in any case, for the short periods of time when I am out and about 
like when I walk to work (about 20 minutes) I have so much data that I never 
use it all up anyways and I can still download a book if I have to. In fact, I 
think Audible should make streaming the default just like with apps such as 
Netflix where you have to download the movie if you want to otherwise it just 
streams.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

As far as I know, once upon a time, long, long, ago, you could stream audible 
books with the audible app, but I think now it automatically downloads the book 
when you begin to play it.

Other than using an Echo device, I find no way to simply stream an audible book.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C58262111a5ea4c609b5008d8e0c532e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637506484857242355%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=wGG0EBdJO5YWyoqK9UeC8NkaNHX6ftSWFB3ZJ9qBAQs%3Dreserved=0



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way to 
stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to my 
iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the app 
gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your iPhone 
you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or 
> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you 
> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere 

Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread deidre muccio
How I love this list for all these reasons. Simple fixes. Complicated ones too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello Richard,
> 
> Actually Joshua's directions seem to be correct, if you go to the Book 
> Details you do have both a Play and a Download button for titles which are 
> not already downloaded. If you already downloaded the title there is simply a 
> Play button.
> I very much thank Joshua for this little bit of information because I 
> honestly had never noticed it and when I just tried this with a book I had 
> not downloaded it seems to work just fine.
> I tapped Play and the book started playing, I listened for a minute and then 
> stopped the book and when I went back into book details I still had both the 
> play and download buttons and when I went to the Downloaded tab in my Library 
> the book I had just played was not there so it definitely seems to be 
> streaming.
> This is very useful, but I wish Audible added this functionality to the rotor 
> options, e.g. instead of just "Activate", Mark as Finished, Add to Favorites 
> and Add to Collection they could add a "Stream" option, in this case the 
> "Activate" default function could still be set to download a book, but if you 
> wanted to stream the title you could just flick down once to "Stream" instead 
> of having to swipe right to menu, activate it, then activate Book Details and 
> find the Play button.
> I will read this one book where I tried this entirely this way because I also 
> want to see if once I finish it will be marked as finished. If so I think I 
> will probably end up streaming most of my books because I am usually at home 
> on WiFi and in any case, for the short periods of time when I am out and 
> about like when I walk to work (about 20 minutes) I have so much data that I 
> never use it all up anyways and I can still download a book if I have to. In 
> fact, I think Audible should make streaming the default just like with apps 
> such as Netflix where you have to download the movie if you want to otherwise 
> it just streams.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
> 
> As far as I know, once upon a time, long, long, ago, you could stream audible 
> books with the audible app, but I think now it automatically downloads the 
> book when you begin to play it.
> 
> Other than using an Echo device, I find no way to simply stream an audible 
> book.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
> 
> Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way 
> to stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
> What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
> 
> I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to 
> my iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the 
> app gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your 
> iPhone you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
>> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
>> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or 
>> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you 
>> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
>> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
>> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. 
>> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I 
>> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
>> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>> 
>> From: Audible.com 
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Thank you Mary,
I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
if it breaks accessibility.
And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
they are monumentally stupid.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Richard,

Actually Joshua's directions seem to be correct, if you go to the Book Details 
you do have both a Play and a Download button for titles which are not already 
downloaded. If you already downloaded the title there is simply a Play button.
I very much thank Joshua for this little bit of information because I honestly 
had never noticed it and when I just tried this with a book I had not 
downloaded it seems to work just fine.
I tapped Play and the book started playing, I listened for a minute and then 
stopped the book and when I went back into book details I still had both the 
play and download buttons and when I went to the Downloaded tab in my Library 
the book I had just played was not there so it definitely seems to be streaming.
This is very useful, but I wish Audible added this functionality to the rotor 
options, e.g. instead of just "Activate", Mark as Finished, Add to Favorites 
and Add to Collection they could add a "Stream" option, in this case the 
"Activate" default function could still be set to download a book, but if you 
wanted to stream the title you could just flick down once to "Stream" instead 
of having to swipe right to menu, activate it, then activate Book Details and 
find the Play button.
I will read this one book where I tried this entirely this way because I also 
want to see if once I finish it will be marked as finished. If so I think I 
will probably end up streaming most of my books because I am usually at home on 
WiFi and in any case, for the short periods of time when I am out and about 
like when I walk to work (about 20 minutes) I have so much data that I never 
use it all up anyways and I can still download a book if I have to. In fact, I 
think Audible should make streaming the default just like with apps such as 
Netflix where you have to download the movie if you want to otherwise it just 
streams.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

As far as I know, once upon a time, long, long, ago, you could stream audible 
books with the audible app, but I think now it automatically downloads the book 
when you begin to play it.

Other than using an Echo device, I find no way to simply stream an audible book.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way to 
stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to my 
iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the app 
gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your iPhone 
you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or 
> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you 
> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. 
> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I 
> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>
> From: Audible.com 
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
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> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>
> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's 

Re: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread deidre muccio
Thanks. I understood that first time around. I’m some days pretty smart other 
days a little slow. I’m smiling.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Only if you connect it as a Bluetooth device and start playing the book on 
> your apple device.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> pattigj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New Echo
> 
> Did I miss something?  Can you read a Bard book on the Echo now?
> Patti
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Echo
> 
> Joshua, 
> Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing 
> something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I 
> might’ve seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what it 
> would be doing, but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do it.Admitte 
> admittedly I was confused about why I could run the echo even without 
> Bluetooth since I thought it was indeed linked to my phone via the Alexa app. 
> I don’t have Bluetooth on. But I guess I’ll turn it on if I wanna do 
> something like have it read me a Bard book. Thank you again.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if 
>> I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell 
>> your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect 
>> to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired 
>> your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard 
>> mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile 
>> app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard 
>> book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to 
>> play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you 
>> tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or 
>> back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.
>> 
 On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile* I would say the 
>>> fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, sorry, 
>>> I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
>>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she 
>>> loves because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to 
>>> know what time it is.
>>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo 
>>> with a screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy 
>>> to connect to my ring video doorbell with just a voice command.
>>> However, you still wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you 
>>> could set up YouTube I think, but if  you want to use it you would be 
>>> better off with a Google smart speaker with screen since Google owns 
>>> YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about Amazon prime 
>>> Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a Google 
>>> speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play 
>>> anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to the 
>>> Google via Chromecast.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of deidre muccio
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
>>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>>> 
>>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the 
>>> size of a cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get 
>>> a little one with a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can 
>>> just watch movies without having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing 
>>> me into what was should’ve been obvious. Anyway I’m playing around 
>>> with this looking at commands seeing I still have a lot of work to do 
>>> to streamline it’s recognizing the specific podcast and things like 
>>> that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a pretty good job 
>>> of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa is best 
>>> at recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies not watch since I 
>>> wouldn’t be able to see a thing on any screen.
>>> Deirdre
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Helli,
>>> 
>>> The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of 
>>> various echo skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show 
>>> podcast is good. It would help us if we new what kind of Echo you 
>>> have. As far 

RE: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Only if you connect it as a Bluetooth device and start playing the book on your 
apple device.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
pattigj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Echo

Did I miss something?  Can you read a Bard book on the Echo now?
Patti


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Echo

Joshua, 
Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing 
something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I might’ve 
seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what it would be doing, 
but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do it.Admitte admittedly I was 
confused about why I could run the echo even without Bluetooth since I thought 
it was indeed linked to my phone via the Alexa app. I don’t have Bluetooth on. 
But I guess I’ll turn it on if I wanna do something like have it read me a Bard 
book. Thank you again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if 
> I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell 
> your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect 
> to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired 
> your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard 
> mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile 
> app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard 
> book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to 
> play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you 
> tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or 
> back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile* I would say the 
>> fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, sorry, 
>> I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she 
>> loves because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to 
>> know what time it is.
>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo 
>> with a screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy 
>> to connect to my ring video doorbell with just a voice command.
>> However, you still wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you 
>> could set up YouTube I think, but if  you want to use it you would be 
>> better off with a Google smart speaker with screen since Google owns 
>> YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about Amazon prime 
>> Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a Google 
>> speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play 
>> anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to the 
>> Google via Chromecast.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of deidre muccio
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>> 
>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the 
>> size of a cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get 
>> a little one with a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can 
>> just watch movies without having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing 
>> me into what was should’ve been obvious. Anyway I’m playing around 
>> with this looking at commands seeing I still have a lot of work to do 
>> to streamline it’s recognizing the specific podcast and things like 
>> that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a pretty good job 
>> of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa is best 
>> at recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies not watch since I wouldn’t 
>> be able to see a thing on any screen.
>> Deirdre
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> Helli,
>> 
>> The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of 
>> various echo skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show 
>> podcast is good. It would help us if we new what kind of Echo you 
>> have. As far as enabling video skills, that is limited to echos with 
>> screens, the echo show and it’s variants, and the echo spot. The echo 
>> show comes in five, eight, and ten inch sizes. The only echo you can 
>> watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable some skills, go to the 
>> amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called skills and 
>> games. 

RE: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread pattigj1206
Did I miss something?  Can you read a Bard book on the Echo now?
Patti


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Echo

Joshua, 
Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing 
something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I might’ve 
seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what it would be doing, 
but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do it.Admitte admittedly I was 
confused about why I could run the echo even without Bluetooth since I thought 
it was indeed linked to my phone via the Alexa app. I don’t have Bluetooth on. 
But I guess I’ll turn it on if I wanna do something like have it read me a Bard 
book. Thank you again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if 
> I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell 
> your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect 
> to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired 
> your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard 
> mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile 
> app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard 
> book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to 
> play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you 
> tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or 
> back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile* I would say the 
>> fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, sorry, 
>> I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she 
>> loves because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to 
>> know what time it is.
>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo 
>> with a screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy 
>> to connect to my ring video doorbell with just a voice command. 
>> However, you still wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you 
>> could set up YouTube I think, but if  you want to use it you would be 
>> better off with a Google smart speaker with screen since Google owns 
>> YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about Amazon prime 
>> Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a Google 
>> speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play 
>> anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to the 
>> Google via Chromecast.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of deidre muccio
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>> 
>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the 
>> size of a cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get 
>> a little one with a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can 
>> just watch movies without having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing 
>> me into what was should’ve been obvious. Anyway I’m playing around 
>> with this looking at commands seeing I still have a lot of work to do 
>> to streamline it’s recognizing the specific podcast and things like 
>> that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a pretty good job 
>> of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa is best 
>> at recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies not watch since I wouldn’t 
>> be able to see a thing on any screen.
>> Deirdre
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> Helli,
>> 
>> The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of 
>> various echo skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show 
>> podcast is good. It would help us if we new what kind of Echo you 
>> have. As far as enabling video skills, that is limited to echos with 
>> screens, the echo show and it’s variants, and the echo spot. The echo 
>> show comes in five, eight, and ten inch sizes. The only echo you can 
>> watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable some skills, go to the 
>> amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called skills and 
>> games. You can also enable skills by voice if you know the skill name.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:15 PM,
>> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>>
>> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been done today.
>> I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and 
>> I've been on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look 
>> into. 

RE: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You have to understand the way these devices work.
The Alexa app on your phone is primarily an interface to adjust settings on 
your Echo speaker, add skills and so on. Yes, it is to some extend also 
allowing you to use your iPhone like an Alexa speaker, e.g. ask questions or 
give commands just as you would to your Echo speaker.
As far as playing books on your Echo speaker which in fact are playing on your 
phone like BARD, in this case you basically use yur Echo speaker just like you 
would any Bluetooth speaker, e.g. you pair it to your phone and the whatever 
you play on your phone plays via your Echo. But because the Echo is a 
smartspeaker you can obviously take it one step further, i.e. once a book is 
playing you can ask your speaker to pause or resume or skip forward or back, on 
a regular Bluetooth speaker you would do these things by pressing the 
appropriate button. But I don't think you can pair your Echo to your phone and 
then tell it to play a BARD book unless you first start the book in your BARD 
app.
Audible is a different matter because Amazon owns Audible hence it's very 
seamlessly integrated into Echo speakers and as long as you are signed into 
your speaker with the same Amazon account you use for Audible the Alexa 
assistant has access to your Audible library.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Echo

Joshua, 
Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing 
something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I might’ve 
seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what it would be doing, 
but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do it.Admitte admittedly I was 
confused about why I could run the echo even without Bluetooth since I thought 
it was indeed linked to my phone via the Alexa app. I don’t have Bluetooth on. 
But I guess I’ll turn it on if I wanna do something like have it read me a Bard 
book. Thank you again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if 
> I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell 
> your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect 
> to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired 
> your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard 
> mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile 
> app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard 
> book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to 
> play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you 
> tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or 
> back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile* I would say the 
>> fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, sorry, 
>> I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she 
>> loves because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to 
>> know what time it is.
>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo 
>> with a screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy 
>> to connect to my ring video doorbell with just a voice command. 
>> However, you still wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you 
>> could set up YouTube I think, but if  you want to use it you would be 
>> better off with a Google smart speaker with screen since Google owns 
>> YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about Amazon prime 
>> Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a Google 
>> speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play 
>> anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to the 
>> Google via Chromecast.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of deidre muccio
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>> 
>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the 
>> size of a cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get 
>> a little one with a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can 
>> just watch movies without having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing 
>> me into what was should’ve been obvious. Anyway I’m playing around 
>> with this looking at commands seeing I still have a lot of work to do 
>> to streamline it’s recognizing the specific podcast and things like 
>> that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a pretty good job 
>> of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa is best 
>> at recognizing. 

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
I agree with you Sieghard.  Especially now that BARD is moving to the cloud for 
their storage, I can redownload a book faster than I could ever copy it to a 
device from a hard drive.
I no that is only for folks in the US, but it is also faster to download 
Audible or Libro.fm books than it is to move them from a backup system to the 
iPhone etc.

But, to each his/her own.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

Everybody makes choices about what to keep, I think when it comes to digital 
storage there are horders just as there are with physical objects. Some people 
keep everything they ever buy even if it means they have a garage full of junk 
in boxes they never open or even have to rent storage. Others sell things they 
don't use any more or give them away. I know some people who download every 
Audible book to keep a copy on their computer, I personally couldn't care less, 
as long as there is an internet and electricity I have access to every book I 
ever bought via my library. Yes, then some argue that maybe some day there is a 
catastrophy and the internet will go down for good and maybe we'll go back to a 
time before electricity, but then of course my computer backups don't do me 
much good, either. Like I said, everybody decides, but I agree that buying an 
iPhone with that much storage is not for me.
I would be spending hundreds of Dollars more for a device I will replace in 2-4 
years and if I really filled up all this storage space of course you would want 
to somehow back it up. The good thing is that as storage increases at the top 
end it will also increase at the bottom end and just as we used to have iPhones 
with 8 and 16 Gb storage, now we have 64 and 128 Gb, soon 128 Gb will probably 
be the lowest yu can get and that is fine for me. I currently have an iPhone 11 
64 Gb and while I have a few hundred photos on that phone, I still have almost 
half of the 64 Gb available. I don't use my iPhone for music because if I want 
music I listen to it at home via my Sonos system so my iPhone is usually for 
listening to Audible and here I usually have 3 or 4 books downloaded at a time 
at most. Once I'm done with a book I remove it from the device and back into my 
online library it goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

There's  also those who might like making lots of video and taking lots of 
photos while on holiday. Personally I still use 64 GB on my iPhone which is  
plenty at the moment.

All the best
Angie

On 4 Mar 2021, at 12:24, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Plus not everyone is going to have the computer skills or even the computer to 
move content from their phone onto their computer. Plus if you have the money 
and the storage, one might think that spending your time moving thigs around 
when you don't need to is a waste of time. I'm always surprised how quick some 
people are to judge others who do things differently or have different 
priorities then they do. Personal choice is such a key right to me, I can't 
imagine criticizing someone else for how they choose to spend their own time 
and money. Their

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

How judge-mental and offensive of you to call those who want iPhones with large 
amounts of storage "lazy asses".
You know nothing of these individuals and why they may want an iPhone with a 
large amount of storage, and you show yourself to be quite ignorant and 
narrow-minded

- Brad -

On Mar 3, 2021, at 20:50, Kelly Pierce 
mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served
me well.  I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a
week's long cross country trip with plenty for photos, videos and
voice memos. That being said, big storage is rather popular. I wanted
to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 256 GB version was completely
sold out and backorders were not possible because of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that 

RE: Audible, Download or stream

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Joshua was talking about the Audible app. If you ask Alexa to play a book it is 
streamed, but if you use the Audible app at least here in Canada the books are 
downloaded to  your iPhone which of course also allows you to play them if you 
have no active WiFi or mobile cellular connection.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audible, Download or stream

I could be wrong, but using Alexa for instance I just add it to the library and 
then I ask Alexa to play it and I’m assuming it has not been downloaded. Like I 
said though I could be wrong. But you can easily check that by looking at what 
books you have downloaded to see if it did in fact do it or not! Last time I 
looked there was zero books download it. Maybe they  download when you bring 
them up to play them? I’ll have to double check that later.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way 
> to stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
> What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
> 
> I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to 
> my iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the 
> app gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your 
> iPhone you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
>> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
>> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it 
>> or if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book 
>> you want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
>> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
>> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. 
>> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I 
>> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
>> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>> 
>> From: Audible.com 
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> 
>> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's everything you need to know for now.   You're on
>> your way.]
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Johna Gravitt
You are absolutely correct!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
 wrote:
>>>
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
 that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
 Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
 they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
 happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
 paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.


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RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Everybody makes choices about what to keep, I think when it comes to digital 
storage there are horders just as there are with physical objects. Some people 
keep everything they ever buy even if it means they have a garage full of junk 
in boxes they never open or even have to rent storage. Others sell things they 
don't use any more or give them away. I know some people who download every 
Audible book to keep a copy on their computer, I personally couldn't care less, 
as long as there is an internet and electricity I have access to every book I 
ever bought via my library. Yes, then some argue that maybe some day there is a 
catastrophy and the internet will go down for good and maybe we'll go back to a 
time before electricity, but then of course my computer backups don't do me 
much good, either. Like I said, everybody decides, but I agree that buying an 
iPhone with that much storage is not for me.
I would be spending hundreds of Dollars more for a device I will replace in 2-4 
years and if I really filled up all this storage space of course you would want 
to somehow back it up. The good thing is that as storage increases at the top 
end it will also increase at the bottom end and just as we used to have iPhones 
with 8 and 16 Gb storage, now we have 64 and 128 Gb, soon 128 Gb will probably 
be the lowest yu can get and that is fine for me. I currently have an iPhone 11 
64 Gb and while I have a few hundred photos on that phone, I still have almost 
half of the 64 Gb available. I don't use my iPhone for music because if I want 
music I listen to it at home via my Sonos system so my iPhone is usually for 
listening to Audible and here I usually have 3 or 4 books downloaded at a time 
at most. Once I'm done with a book I remove it from the device and back into my 
online library it goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

There’s  also those who might like making lots of video and taking lots of 
photos while on holiday. Personally I still use 64 GB on my iPhone which is  
plenty at the moment.

All the best
Angie


On 4 Mar 2021, at 12:24, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Plus not everyone is going to have the computer skills or even the computer to 
move content from their phone onto their computer. Plus if you have the money 
and the storage, one might think that spending your time moving thigs around 
when you don’t need to is a waste of time. I’m always surprised how quick some 
people are to judge others who do things differently or have different 
priorities then they do. Personal choice is such a key right to me, I can’t 
imagine criticizing someone else for how they choose to spend their own time 
and money. Their

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

How judge-mental and offensive of you to call those who want iPhones with large 
amounts of storage “lazy asses”.
You know nothing of these individuals and why they may want an iPhone with a 
large amount of storage, and you show yourself to be quite ignorant and 
narrow-minded

- Brad -

On Mar 3, 2021, at 20:50, Kelly Pierce 
mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I bought an iPhone 7 in 2016 with 128 GB of storage and it has served
me well.  I have enough room for all the music I would ever need on a
week’s long cross country trip with plenty for photos, videos and
voice memos. That being said, big storage is rather popular. I wanted
to upgrade to an iPhone Mini and the 256 GB version was completely
sold out and backorders were not possible because of the high demand.

For those who read 9to5Mac, I did state though that those who crave 1
TB on their iPhones are lazy asses who can’t be bothered in moving
photos and videos off their phone and onto their computer. Similarly,
they are lazy in not wanting to rotate music out of their iTunes
Library and transferring more music into it.

Kelly



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RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
As far as I know, once upon a time, long, long, ago, you could stream audible 
books with the audible app, but I think now it automatically downloads the book 
when you begin to play it.

Other than using an Echo device, I find no way to simply stream an audible book.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way to 
stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to my 
iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the app 
gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your iPhone 
you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or 
> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you 
> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. 
> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I 
> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>
> From: Audible.com 
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>
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Re: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread deidre muccio
Joshua, 
Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing 
something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I might’ve 
seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what it would be doing, 
but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do it.Admitte admittedly I was 
confused about why I could run the echo even without Bluetooth since I thought 
it was indeed linked to my phone via the Alexa app. I don’t have Bluetooth on. 
But I guess I’ll turn it on if I wanna do something like have it read me a Bard 
book. Thank you again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if
> I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell
> your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect
> to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired
> your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard
> mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile
> app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard
> book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to
> play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you
> tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or
> back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile*
>> I would say the fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball,
>> sorry, I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like
>> it.
>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she loves
>> because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to know what time
>> it is.
>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo with a
>> screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy to connect to
>> my ring video doorbell with just a voice command. However, you still
>> wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you could set up YouTube I think,
>> but if  you want to use it you would be better off with a Google smart
>> speaker with screen since Google owns YouTube and it's already integrated. I
>> am not sure about Amazon prime Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it
>> for that. With a Google speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can
>> also play anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it
>> to the Google via Chromecast.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> deidre muccio
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>> 
>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the size of a
>> cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get a little one with
>> a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can just watch movies without
>> having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing me into what was should’ve been
>> obvious. Anyway I’m playing around with this looking at commands seeing I
>> still have a lot of work to do to streamline it’s recognizing the specific
>> podcast and things like that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a
>> pretty good job of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa
>> is best at recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies not watch since I
>> wouldn’t be able to see a thing on any screen.
>> Deirdre
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald
>>  wrote:
>> Helli,
>> 
>> The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of various
>> echo skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show podcast is good. It
>> would help us if we new what kind of Echo you have. As far as enabling video
>> skills, that is limited to echos with screens, the echo show and it’s
>> variants, and the echo spot. The echo show comes in five, eight, and ten
>> inch sizes. The only echo you can watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable
>> some skills, go to the amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called
>> skills and games. You can also enable skills by voice if you know the skill
>> name.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:15 PM,
>> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>>
>> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been done today.
>> I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and I've
>> been on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look into. Some of
>> what I am told to do isn't fool proof, perhaps due to human error.
>>   I cant seem to get at the place having to do with enabling
>> video such as Prime Video or Netflix. I've got both Apps on the phone and
>> naively thought I could use Alexa to activate those apps. It doesn't 

RE: Using vita mix with iPhone

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I tried it and thew app is very messy and seems to have pretty pour 
accessibility

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wren 
Langley
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using vita mix with iPhone

Hi all,
Has anyone used a vita mix blender with their perfect company app that they 
developed for the iPhone? If you have, how does it work, and what results have 
you had.

Thank you very much
God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Echo or Alexa Show

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sonos enabled Alexa speakers can do almost everything an Echo can do, one thing 
they can't yet do is make a phone call or let you use the Drop-In feature of 
Alexa. I have an Echo Show 5 at my office at my store which is connected to my 
Amazon account just as are our Echo speakers at home. There we have an Echo 
Show 10 in the living room, my wife has an Echo Dot 4th Gen in the bedroom with 
clock display and we have Sonos One speakers in the bathroom, the kitchen and 
in my woodworking shop as well as a Sonos Move which is also Alexa capable. 
Anyways, it is nice when I am in my office and my wife is at home, I can simply 
say to Alexa to drop in at the living room and almost instantly a two-way voice 
intercom channel is opened and my wife and I can talk.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo or Alexa Show

All Alexa devices will respond to the same commands.
I have the Sonos speakers with Alexa as well as the Amazon Alexa app on my 
iPhone.  I do not own an Echo device but can do all the same things with Alexa 
on these other platforms.
And, all Alexa devices can control your smart home devices.  We happen to have 
a thermostat that is controlled over Wi-Fi and I connected it to alexa, so now 
I can say to the speakers “Alexa, turn the thermostat to 71 degrees.
WE also got an Air Fryer that I can control with Alexa.
Pretty slick.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo or Alexa Show

The echo shows have a neat feature called “ show and tell” and they work simply 
by asking “Alexa, what am I holding in my hand?” Most times they are pretty 
accurate.  You do not need to do anything differently with them than a normal 
regular echo dot.  In some cases information be displayed on the screen, 
however echo shows have a screen reader called voice view which is quite 
similar to the iPhone’s voice over so there’s not much of al earning curve 
there.  You can watch videos other than prime on them.
Hope this was helpful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Echo or Alexa Show

Me again.
I just looked up "Amazon Show" and became overloaded when reading about  
displays. I do not intend to use a device to control temperature or lock doors 
or need to look at a clock, anything like that. I also do not want a device 
that will require me to do anything in response to what shows on a screen.
   I was thinking I would get a second device for another room but 
one that could play movies, not just Prime, but Netflix too,and possibly Hulu 
somewhere down the line.
   Would that device be compatible with the Echo 4th generation I 
already have? Would I talk to it like I talk to my other device?
   I wonder if Amazon's  customers with disabilities could answer 
these questions and give me a honest good recommendation.
   I'll see if the podcasts someone already recommended will cover 
this, or maybe I will have to go to YouTube and let it squeeze hours out of the 
rest of my day, but only after the dog and I get a proper walk!

   Deidre
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
Hello Mary,

This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
license agreement(s). 

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that is 
> not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that Bluetooth 
> thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since they don’t 
> make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. I wish I 
> knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to the 
> developers and to iOS.
> 
> 
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Audible, Download or stream

2021-03-06 Thread deidre muccio
I could be wrong, but using Alexa for instance I just add it to the library and 
then I ask Alexa to play it and I’m assuming it has not been downloaded. Like I 
said though I could be wrong. But you can easily check that by looking at what 
books you have downloaded to see if it did in fact do it or not! Last time I 
looked there was zero books download it. Maybe they  download when you bring 
them up to play them? I’ll have to double check that later.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way 
> to stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
> What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
> 
> I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to 
> my iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the 
> app gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your 
> iPhone you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
>> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
>> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or 
>> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you 
>> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
>> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
>> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. 
>> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I 
>> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
>> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>> 
>> From: Audible.com 
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
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>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> 
>> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's everything you need to know for now.   You're on
>> your way.]
>> 
>> Whatever the moment,
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>> 
>> Whether you want to wind down, get motivated, or learn something new, 
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RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Cristobal,

We purchased a spin bike a while ago and it's also very simple and without any 
smart features. My wife and I do have Apple Watches so we use them to set 
whatever we want to do, mostly just by time, e.g. a 15-minute, 20-minute etc. 
indoor bike workout. I find it is nice enough to see my heart rate, calories 
burned and so on, but personally I don't get it why I would want all that other 
stuff, e.g. distance, cadence and so on. I couldn't care less how far these 
electronic gadgets thinks I biked, I mean, I'm just in one spot and as long as 
I get a workout then that is what I want. To me a lot of these gadgets are ways 
to liberate me from my hard-earned Dollars and I find there is just too many 
ways for me to spend it so in recent years I have really scaled back the gadget 
stuff and I ask myself if I really want let alone need something.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

Hello Richard,
If only it were that simple. This CNet articles gives a quick breakdown on what 
one would need to make a “dumb” bike smarter: 
https://www.cnet.com/health/diy-peloton-bike-how-to-build-your-own-smart-cycle/
There are gadgets that measure power output and that can measure distance along 
with heart rate, but as always the question for us is what’s accessible.
Simon’s response was helpful in letting me know that Wahoo’s platform and 
products are more or less accessible for example.
One can go all out to try to replicate the Peloton experience, but I just 
really want access to my workout stats.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

I would think that the phone in your pocket would track your steps if you 
enabled that in the health app, or a pedometer app.
And, doesn't the Fitbit track heart rate if you do not want the Apple Watch?
Just some thoughts.

Richard

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young."
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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello list,
So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike 
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources on 
this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling out the 
big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.
I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong and 
am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I think I’d 
be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next upgrade 
instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort of app or 
firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.
Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike 
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring heart 
rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no desire to 
get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate monitor. My 
understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to get connected, 
but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS app/service?
Thanks,
Cristobal
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Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread deidre muccio
Yes, I just had to download the audible app and then look through all the 
different offerings that I qualified for with audible plus which is somewhat 
limited. Bunch of old classics and occasional real jewel by an author that I 
like. Most of the searches I did came up empty. For my favorite authors, that 
is.  I like that I don’t have to download them unless I have some reason to 
keep A paA particular book, which I have no need for  given that I already use 
Bard and Learning Ally and I can access them easily as well. So I’m set. I  had 
to update to 14.4 in order to download the audible app! I did it on my old 
phone, not my new phone, to check it out. There just a few little linguistic 
things that I findirritating, such as new labels for things and some processes 
are a little more laborious than they were beforehand. I can’t think of which 
ones it was that I encountered in the last day that kind of irritated me but 
whatever the phones working just fine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google
> home to my iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I
> wanted.  I like the app gives you a choice, if you want to download
> your audible book to your iPhone you can do so, but can also stream
> your book on your iPhone as well.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
>> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can listen
>> on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or if all you
>> want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you want and once that
>> is done ask  your Echo to play it.
>> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible and it
>> allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. Should it
>> have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I first need to
>> download the App? Am I that stupid?
>> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>> 
>> From: Audible.com 
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>> 
>> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> 
>> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's everything you need to know for now.   You're on
>> your way.]
>> 
>> Whatever the moment,
>> find the perfect listen.
>> 
>> Whether you want to wind down, get motivated, or learn something new, it’s
>> your playlist for life.
>> 
>> Start exploring
>> 
>> 
>> The Audible Plus Catalog includes:
>> 
>> [Podcasts   Including popular topics like comedy, true crime, and
>> journalism.]
>> 
>> [Audiobooks   Including most-loved genres like mysteries & thrillers, and
>> motivation.]
>> 
>> [Audible Originals   Including documentaries, theater, and sleep programs.
>> All made to be
>> heard.]
>> 
>> [Image removed by sender. Hit Play Now to stream titles instantly from the
>> app. Save titles to Library to download and listen offline. Follow podcasts
>> and stay up to date.]
>> 
>> Here’s your receipt for safekeeping.
>> Order Number: D01-6211465-5894616
>> 
>> Description
>> Price
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Image removed by sender.]
>> Audible Plus
>> $0.00
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Order Summary
>> 
>> Subtotal:
>> $7.95
>> Applied Discount:
>> ($7.95)
>> Tax:
>> $0.00
>> Order Total:
>> $0.00
>> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
 wrote:
>>>
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
 that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
 Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
 they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
 happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
 paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.


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Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
What you do, is, there should be a menu button after each audible
title.  I double tap the menu button and I find a book details page.
I read through the book info, and I find a play button, and a download
button as well if the book isn't already downloaded to my iPhone.
Good luck.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way
> to stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
> What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to
> my iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like
> the app gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to
> your iPhone you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as
> well.
>
> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
>> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can
>> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or
>> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you
>> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
>> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible
>> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>>
>> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service.
>> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I
>> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
>> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>>
>> From: Audible.com 
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>>
>> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
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>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>>
>> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's everything you need to know for now.   You're
>> on
>> your way.]
>>
>> Whatever the moment,
>> find the perfect listen.
>>
>> Whether you want to wind down, get motivated, or learn something new,
>> it’s your playlist for life.
>>
>> Start exploring
>> > :rtn:msg:20210305153806336ec7c5fb274f5082674e3f88b0p0na=1S6DLKI3RQL9
>> D=C=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Fep%2Faudible-plus-member-benef
>> it%3Fsource_code%3DAUDOR2651007199R2V%26ref_%3Dpe_2809810_229748890=
>> H0JF3EPLZ25HSXI1IBYW1AEF0QQA_=pe_2809810_229748890>
>>
>> The Audible Plus Catalog includes:
>>
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>>
>> [Audiobooks   Including most-loved genres like mysteries & thrillers, and
>> motivation.]> 011_twelve_browse-bin=18685552011=true>
>>
>> [Audible Originals   Including documentaries, theater, and sleep
>> programs.
>> All made to be
>> heard.]> 2651007199R2V>
>>
>> [Image removed by sender. Hit Play Now to stream titles instantly from
>> the app. Save titles to Library to download and listen offline. Follow
>> podcasts and stay up to date.]
>>
>> Here’s your receipt for safekeeping.
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>>
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>>
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>>
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RE: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe this is different in the US, I am in Canada and I have not found a way to 
stream a book from Audible on my iPhone.
What exactly do you do to stream a book instead of downloading it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google home to my 
iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I wanted.  I like the app 
gives you a choice, if you want to download your audible book to your iPhone 
you can do so, but can also stream your book on your iPhone as well.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can 
> listen on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or 
> if all you want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you 
> want and once that is done ask  your Echo to play it.
> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible 
> and it allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. 
> Should it have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I 
> first need to download the App? Am I that stupid?
> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>
> From: Audible.com 
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>
> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's everything you need to know for now.   You're on
> your way.]
>
> Whatever the moment,
> find the perfect listen.
>
> Whether you want to wind down, get motivated, or learn something new, 
> it’s your playlist for life.
>
> Start exploring
>  :rtn:msg:20210305153806336ec7c5fb274f5082674e3f88b0p0na=1S6DLKI3RQL9
> D=C=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Fep%2Faudible-plus-member-benef
> it%3Fsource_code%3DAUDOR2651007199R2V%26ref_%3Dpe_2809810_229748890=
> H0JF3EPLZ25HSXI1IBYW1AEF0QQA_=pe_2809810_229748890>
>
> The Audible Plus Catalog includes:
>
> [Podcasts   Including popular topics like comedy, true crime, and
> journalism.] 007199R2V>
>
> [Audiobooks   Including most-loved genres like mysteries & thrillers, and
> motivation.] 011_twelve_browse-bin=18685552011=true>
>
> [Audible Originals   Including documentaries, theater, and sleep programs.
> All made to be
> heard.] 2651007199R2V>
>
> [Image removed by sender. Hit Play Now to stream titles instantly from 
> the app. Save titles to Library to download and listen offline. Follow 
> podcasts and stay up to date.]
>
> Here’s your receipt for safekeeping.
> Order Number: D01-6211465-5894616
>
> Description
> Price
>
>
>
> [Image removed by sender.]
> Audible Plus
> $0.00
>
>
>
> Order Summary
>
> Subtotal:
> $7.95
> Applied Discount:
> ($7.95)
> Tax:
> $0.00
> Order Total:
> $0.00
>
>
>
> Your paid membership begins today, or at the end of your trial period, 
> as applicable. It continues until cancelled for $7.95 a month + taxes 
> (subject to any applicable promotions or discounts that may be 
> applied). Cancel or switch your membership anytime by visiting your 
> Account 
> Details S=urn:rtn:msg:20210305153806336ec7c5fb274f5082674e3f88b0p0na=1DLC9
> 28ILK9DO=C=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount-details%3Fsourc
> e_code%3DAUDOR2651007199R2V%26ref_%3Dpe_2809810_229748890=MH2IHK15DX
> IWOYBHNAESF3X4PNWA_=pe_2809810_229748890>
> page. Please note: if you cancel, you will lose access to your 
> included titles. Your membership is subject to Audible’s Conditions of 
> Use.
> If we are unable to charge your default card, we will use another card 
> in your Amazon account as back up. Manage 

Re: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!

2021-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I like the audible app very much.  I could easily connect my google
home to my iPhone, then listen to any audible book on my iPhone I
wanted.  I like the app gives you a choice, if you want to download
your audible book to your iPhone you can do so, but can also stream
your book on your iPhone as well.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It does have a link to "Download app" in that email you forwarded.
> Also, strictly speaking you don't have to download any apps. You can listen
> on the website via the cloud player or whatever they call it or if all you
> want to do is listen on your Echo, just buy the book you want and once that
> is done ask  your Echo to play it.
> Of course the Audible app on the iPhone is fantastic, very accessible and it
> allows you to download a book and listen to it anywhere anytime.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Audible's welcome pageFW: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Wow lousy instructions on how to get started with a new  service. Should it
> have been obvious in order to do anythingwith Audible I first need to
> download the App? Am I that stupid?
> The mailings have a lot of graphics,and how I hate table formats.
>
> From: Audible.com 
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM
> Subject: Welcome to Audible Plus!
>
> Ready to explore a new world of listening? ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
>
> [Welcome, Ellen.   Here's everything you need to know for now.   You're on
> your way.]
>
> Whatever the moment,
> find the perfect listen.
>
> Whether you want to wind down, get motivated, or learn something new, it’s
> your playlist for life.
>
> Start exploring
> 
>
> The Audible Plus Catalog includes:
>
> [Podcasts   Including popular topics like comedy, true crime, and
> journalism.]
>
> [Audiobooks   Including most-loved genres like mysteries & thrillers, and
> motivation.]
>
> [Audible Originals   Including documentaries, theater, and sleep programs.
> All made to be
> heard.]
>
> [Image removed by sender. Hit Play Now to stream titles instantly from the
> app. Save titles to Library to download and listen offline. Follow podcasts
> and stay up to date.]
>
> Here’s your receipt for safekeeping.
> Order Number: D01-6211465-5894616
>
> Description
> Price
>
>
>
> [Image removed by sender.]
> Audible Plus
> $0.00
>
>
>
> Order Summary
>
> Subtotal:
> $7.95
> Applied Discount:
> ($7.95)
> Tax:
> $0.00
> Order Total:
> $0.00
>
>
>
> Your paid membership begins today, or at the end of your trial period, as
> applicable. It continues until cancelled for $7.95 a month + taxes (subject
> to any applicable promotions or discounts that may be applied). Cancel or
> switch your membership anytime by visiting your Account
> Details
> page. Please note: if you cancel, you will lose access to your included
> titles. Your membership is subject to Audible’s Conditions of
> Use.
> If we are unable to charge your default card, we will use another card in
> your Amazon account as back up. Manage payment settings
>>
>
>
>
> [Image removed by
> 

Re: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if
I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell
your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect
to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired
your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard
mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile
app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard
book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to
play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you
tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or
back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.

On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile*
> I would say the fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball,
> sorry, I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like
> it.
> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she loves
> because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to know what time
> it is.
> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo with a
> screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy to connect to
> my ring video doorbell with just a voice command. However, you still
> wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you could set up YouTube I think,
> but if  you want to use it you would be better off with a Google smart
> speaker with screen since Google owns YouTube and it's already integrated. I
> am not sure about Amazon prime Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it
> for that. With a Google speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can
> also play anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it
> to the Google via Chromecast.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> deidre muccio
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
> Subject: Re: New Echo
>
> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the size of a
> cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get a little one with
> a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can just watch movies without
> having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing me into what was should’ve been
> obvious. Anyway I’m playing around with this looking at commands seeing I
> still have a lot of work to do to streamline it’s recognizing the specific
> podcast and things like that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a
> pretty good job of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa
> is best at recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies not watch since I
> wouldn’t be able to see a thing on any screen.
> Deirdre
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald
>  wrote:
> Helli,
>
> The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of various
> echo skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show podcast is good. It
> would help us if we new what kind of Echo you have. As far as enabling video
> skills, that is limited to echos with screens, the echo show and it’s
> variants, and the echo spot. The echo show comes in five, eight, and ten
> inch sizes. The only echo you can watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable
> some skills, go to the amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called
> skills and games. You can also enable skills by voice if you know the skill
> name.
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:15 PM,
> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>>
> mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been done today.
> I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and I've
> been on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look into. Some of
> what I am told to do isn't fool proof, perhaps due to human error.
>I cant seem to get at the place having to do with enabling
> video such as Prime Video or Netflix. I've got both Apps on the phone and
> naively thought I could use Alexa to activate those apps. It doesn't seem to
> work that way! I followed instructions from a hard file as well as where
> Alexa tole me to look, that were supposed to get me to TV and Movies under
> Skills and Games, I think, but I never got there.
> Under the section in settings for Communication, I did check off various
> music services and podcasts and Tune In stations I listen to and Alexa was
> able to find those. I can't however find the place to do that with video, TV
> and/or movies I am subscribed to.
> I really did imagine that I could tell Alexa to do things like open Bard and
> continue reading what I was reading last. I assumed the Echo device was
> totally privy to everything on my phone, as if it had a mirror image of it.
> H, I'm smiling. Still I did manage to do a "drop in" message 

RE: New Echo

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile*
I would say the fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, 
sorry, I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she loves because 
if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to know what time it is.
At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo with a 
screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy to connect to my 
ring video doorbell with just a voice command. However, you still wouldn't be 
able to just play movies, yes, you could set up YouTube I think, but if  you 
want to use it you would be better off with a Google smart speaker with screen 
since Google owns YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about 
Amazon prime Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a 
Google speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play anything 
on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to the Google via 
Chromecast.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
Subject: Re: New Echo

I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the size of a 
cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get a little one with a 
tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can just watch movies without 
having to touch my phone. Thanks for cluing me into what was should’ve been 
obvious. Anyway I’m playing around with this looking at commands seeing I still 
have a lot of work to do to streamline it’s recognizing the specific podcast 
and things like that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a pretty good 
job of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down that Alexa is best at 
recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies not watch since I wouldn’t be 
able to see a thing on any screen.
Deirdre

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald  
wrote:
Helli,

The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of various echo 
skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show podcast is good. It would 
help us if we new what kind of Echo you have. As far as enabling video skills, 
that is limited to echos with screens, the echo show and it’s  variants, and 
the echo spot. The echo show comes in five, eight, and ten inch sizes. The only 
echo you can watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable some skills, go to the 
amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called skills and games. You can 
also enable skills by voice if you know the skill name.


On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:15 PM, 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello all,
Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been done today. 
I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and I've been 
on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look into. Some of what I am 
told to do isn't fool proof, perhaps due to human error.
   I cant seem to get at the place having to do with enabling video 
such as Prime Video or Netflix. I've got both Apps on the phone and naively 
thought I could use Alexa to activate those apps. It doesn't seem to work that 
way! I followed instructions from a hard file as well as where Alexa tole me to 
look, that were supposed to get me to TV and Movies under Skills and Games, I 
think, but I never got there.
Under the section in settings for Communication, I did check off various music 
services and podcasts and Tune In stations I listen to and Alexa was able to 
find those. I can't however find the place to do that with video, TV and/or 
movies I am subscribed to.
I really did imagine that I could tell Alexa to do things like open Bard and 
continue reading what I was reading last. I assumed the Echo device was totally 
privy to everything on my phone, as if it had a mirror image of it. H, I'm 
smiling. Still I did manage to do a "drop in" message to my brother's own Echo 
and he was indeed notified he had a message and when he asked Alexa to play it, 
there I was on a live recording which is what I chose to use as the medium.
   I look forward to learning to do as much as I can with the Echo 
"hands off.
   Any tips anyone can provide about which sources are most 
reliable and easy to follow would be greatly appreciated. This will take a 
systematic approach to getting things set up at more than the most basic level.

   Deidre
   Deidre

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Re: ringtones question

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Which is why I mentioned that there are online services that will do this, and 
trusted they could look them up.
I guess I'm not as generous as you, grin.


Richard

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On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


But if you don't have GoldWave and have never used it it is much easier to just 
use an online converter, Zamzar.com works well or just do a Google search for 
"Converting M4R to MP3"
For me the first search result was the Zamzar website, you also don't have to 
rename the file from M4R to M4A.
When I tried it I simply clicked the button to select my M4R file, use "B" to 
find it, after that I had a drop-down combo box where I could select the format 
I wanted to convert to, MP3 was already selected and then there was just the 
Convert buton. After I pressed it, I got this message:

Zamzar - File Conversion progress
Alert!
Hang tight - download links will appear shortly...

After a few seconds the file was converted and the "Download" button was there, 
after activating it I was asked what I wanted to do with the file, but that 
depends on your download settings. I have Chrome and Edge set up to ask me 
where I want to save my files, if you had it set up to simply save to the 
Downloads folder then after activating the button it would just download, for 
me I press F6 and then arrow from "Open" to "Save" and select where I want to 
save it.
I love these online converters, there is nothing to install, nothing to learn 
and you can find converters which pretty much can convert anything into 
anything.
GoldWave I am sure is easy to use for people like Richard who have used it for 
years, if you had never used it you would probably spend 20 minutes trying to 
figure it out.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ringtones question

If you are using a Windows computer, GoldWave can do this and you do not have 
to change the file extension first.
Plus, Goldwave has a batch process so you could convert a bunch of files at 
once to mp3.
There are other programs and online services that can do this.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 4:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ringtones question

Yes, first, change the extension from M for our 2M for a. Then you can convert 
it to an MP3 and most conversion programs or online.
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Hi I was wondering is there a way to take a ringtone and convert it to mp3 from 
m4r?
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RE: ringtones question

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
But if you don't have GoldWave and have never used it it is much easier to just 
use an online converter, Zamzar.com works well or just do a Google search for 
"Converting M4R to MP3"
For me the first search result was the Zamzar website, you also don't have to 
rename the file from M4R to M4A.
When I tried it I simply clicked the button to select my M4R file, use "B" to 
find it, after that I had a drop-down combo box where I could select the format 
I wanted to convert to, MP3 was already selected and then there was just the 
Convert buton. After I pressed it, I got this message:

Zamzar - File Conversion progress
Alert!
Hang tight - download links will appear shortly...

After a few seconds the file was converted and the "Download" button was there, 
after activating it I was asked what I wanted to do with the file, but that 
depends on your download settings. I have Chrome and Edge set up to ask me 
where I want to save my files, if you had it set up to simply save to the 
Downloads folder then after activating the button it would just download, for 
me I press F6 and then arrow from "Open" to "Save" and select where I want to 
save it.
I love these online converters, there is nothing to install, nothing to learn 
and you can find converters which pretty much can convert anything into 
anything.
GoldWave I am sure is easy to use for people like Richard who have used it for 
years, if you had never used it you would probably spend 20 minutes trying to 
figure it out.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ringtones question

If you are using a Windows computer, GoldWave can do this and you do not have 
to change the file extension first.
Plus, Goldwave has a batch process so you could convert a bunch of files at 
once to mp3.
There are other programs and online services that can do this.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 4:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ringtones question

Yes, first, change the extension from M for our 2M for a. Then you can convert 
it to an MP3 and most conversion programs or online.
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: False Alarm Regarding Facebook App

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You probably turned on screen recognition accidently. In the Facebook app this 
really messes things up.
Try it, when in Facebook turn the rotor to screen recognition and turn it on, 
now of course you know what the reason is you can easily turn it off again and 
all is back to normal, but this way you can check if this was your issue.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 5:32 PM
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Subject: False Alarm Regarding Facebook App

Hi all,
I posted recently about a radical change to the look and feel of the Facebook 
app. I have no idea how the layout got all messed up on my iPhone 12, but I 
rebooted the phone and all is well. So, disregard my earlier post. Maybe 
this’ll teach me to stay off the app for a while, lol. 
Tom

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Re: Can't unmute voiceover ... solved

2021-03-06 Thread Kimberly
Just tossing out random ideas here.

Have you tried having Siri turn off voiceover and then turn it back on?

Is there any possibility that there’s a Bluetooth headset attached to your 
computer somewhere in the house or apartment?

Sorry if you’ve already been through this routine but that’s all I have right 
now.

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> On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> I told Siri to set voiceover volume to 100%, and she did.
> 
> Phew!
> At 09:07 PM 3/5/2021, you wrote:
>> I am using a Macbook Pro with a touchbar.  I have muted voiceover, and a 
>> three-finger double-tap on the touchpad doesn't unmute it.  I have asked 
>> Siri to turn on voiceover, and Envision reads on the screen Siri saying 
>> voiceover is already on.
>> Any suggestions how to unmute the stinker?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks a lot,
>> 
>> Ann
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