Re: purchasing iPhone 13

[Richard Turner]

i am planning to do just that at this moment, depending what I learn in 
September. The first and foremost why; is that I came into some extra money so 
I don't have to think about the cost. The second reason would be the newer 
LIDAR capability and the fact the app developers have had another year to 
implement the feature for object location/identification and distance. Plus, I 
need a phone with more memory than the 128 GB I bought with the SE 2020.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:10 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:


Hi, just curious on thoughts would you upgrade from a SE2020 to a iPhone 13?  
Why or why not?

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RE: the Alex voice

[Dennis Long]

He is clear.  The speed rate is subjective.  I have mine set to between 65 and 
70 percent.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: the Alex voice

 

Hi are any of you using the Alex voice on your phone?

And if so what made you select it over all the other voices that you can use on 
your iPhone?

Also what is the speed rate you find that he reads the best where you can 
understand him?

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purchasing iPhone 13

[Dennis Long]

Hi, just curious on thoughts would you upgrade from a SE2020 to a iPhone 13?
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Re: Turning off and then back iPhone

[Star Gazer]

I have an iPhone 12 2

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 16:49, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Also, if you are on certain phones, for example the iPhone 8, you can turn 
> the phone off by pressing and holding the side power button by itself until 
> you hear the "power off" option.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Turning off and then back iPhone
> 
> As for turning off the phone, there are only 2 ways:
> 
> 1. Settings > General > Turn off iPhone, to speed it up a bit you can ask 
> SIRI to go to General Settings, then do a 4-finger ap near the bottom of the 
> screen and focus should be on the Turn off button. Of course after you tap it 
> you still have to tap the "Power Off" button.
> 2. Press and hold the Side Button and Volume Down for a second or so, focus 
> may not be on the Power Off button and you have to be a bit careful in case 
> it is on Emergency Call, just flick left a couple of times and you should be 
> on Power Off.
> 
> As for turning it on there are also 2 ways:
> 
> 1. Press and hold the side button and count to about 5 or 6, then let go and 
> wait about 15 seconds and Voiceover should come on.
> 2. You can plug the phone in to a Lightning cable attached to power or put it 
> down on a wireless charging pad, as soon as charging starts it will also 
> power up your iPhone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: August 26, 2021 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Turning off and then back iPhone
> 
> Is there another way to turn my iPhone off other then going to settings? Also 
> I seem to take forever to get it back on. Any good tips when pressing the 
> side button? I would love it 2 vibrate when the Apple appears e
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Mary Otten]

I haven’t had an iPad in a long time. I think having one with a Bluetooth 
keyboard would be good if it has gotten better with Accessibility. For example, 
as far as I know, there is no good way to deal with anything but a very 
rudimentary PDF document on Apple products.. Got links. Nothing. Have to read a 
table? Can’t do it. I don’t know how word and XL would work, but I sure 
wouldn’t do it without a keyboard. I thought Apple had instituted some kind of 
find future equivalent to what we’ve been able to do in windows for years with 
screen readers. But I might be wrong. I thought they had done it for the Mac 
with voiceover but that would’ve carried over to the iPad. But since my only 
Apple products these days are  an iPhone and   watch, I’m not in a position to 
make definitive statements.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> I do have an iPad and enjoy it, but there are still some things I find much 
> easier to do on a PC.  
> 
> You can navigate by headings in a browser,but I know of no way to do this 
> without using the rotor.
> 
> I also am a heavy user of the Find feature with JAWS on web pages and am not 
> aware of an equivalent in IOS.  I would love to be proven wrong on this.
> 
> I also need to use Excel and Word quite a lot, which I find much easier on 
> the PC.
> 
> So it really depends on what you want to use it for, in my opinion.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPad as a Productivity Tool
> 
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
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RE: Turning off and then back iPhone

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Also, if you are on certain phones, for example the iPhone 8, you can turn the 
phone off by pressing and holding the side power button by itself until you 
hear the "power off" option.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning off and then back iPhone

As for turning off the phone, there are only 2 ways:

1. Settings > General > Turn off iPhone, to speed it up a bit you can ask SIRI 
to go to General Settings, then do a 4-finger ap near the bottom of the screen 
and focus should be on the Turn off button. Of course after you tap it you 
still have to tap the "Power Off" button.
2. Press and hold the Side Button and Volume Down for a second or so, focus may 
not be on the Power Off button and you have to be a bit careful in case it is 
on Emergency Call, just flick left a couple of times and you should be on Power 
Off.

As for turning it on there are also 2 ways:

1. Press and hold the side button and count to about 5 or 6, then let go and 
wait about 15 seconds and Voiceover should come on.
2. You can plug the phone in to a Lightning cable attached to power or put it 
down on a wireless charging pad, as soon as charging starts it will also power 
up your iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: August 26, 2021 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Turning off and then back iPhone

Is there another way to turn my iPhone off other then going to settings? Also I 
seem to take forever to get it back on. Any good tips when pressing the side 
button? I would love it 2 vibrate when the Apple appears e

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: phone won't do anything

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You definitely do not have to hold it for a minute, about 15 to 20 seconds is 
plenty, I always do a somewhat slow count to 15 so my true time might be 20 
seconds

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: August 26, 2021 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: phone won't do anything

yes but what he didn't say was to hold the power button in for over a minute 
which I didn't do initially.

On 26/08/2021 16:04, Carolyn wrote:
> That is what Joseph said.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Janet Bell
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: phone won't do anything
>
> I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated 
> earlier basically the phone just locked and would't move any which 
> way.  to fix it you press the volume up button first and them the 
> volume down button and finally press the power button in holding it in 
> for about a minute or a minute and a half.  by which time you're phone 
> should have gone off and reset itself.  hope that is of some help to 
> you.  Janet
>
> On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>
>> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
>>
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RE: Turning off and then back iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As for turning off the phone, there are only 2 ways:

1. Settings > General > Turn off iPhone, to speed it up a bit you can ask SIRI 
to go to General Settings, then do a 4-finger ap near the bottom of the screen 
and focus should be on the Turn off button. Of course after you tap it you 
still have to tap the "Power Off" button.
2. Press and hold the Side Button and Volume Down for a second or so, focus may 
not be on the Power Off button and you have to be a bit careful in case it is 
on Emergency Call, just flick left a couple of times and you should be on Power 
Off.

As for turning it on there are also 2 ways:

1. Press and hold the side button and count to about 5 or 6, then let go and 
wait about 15 seconds and Voiceover should come on.
2. You can plug the phone in to a Lightning cable attached to power or put it 
down on a wireless charging pad, as soon as charging starts it will also power 
up your iPhone.

-Original Message-
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Gazer
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Subject: Turning off and then back iPhone

Is there another way to turn my iPhone off other then going to settings? Also I 
seem to take forever to get it back on. Any good tips when pressing the side 
button? I would love it 2 vibrate when the Apple appears e

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Re: In the past several updates to iOS, key clicks don't work until after connecting either a braille display or keyboard with Bluetooth.

[Daniel MacDonald]

Hello,

Though I have no solutions, I’d say, report it to apple either using 
accessibil...@apple.com  or apple.com/feedback 
. Both places would be good. In the mean time, 
become a public beta tester. Apple always fixes the bugs I report and I am a 
beta tester. Actually testing developer betas. 
Daniel


> On Aug 26, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
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> Hi.
>  
> This is one that doesn’t make sense to me. After my iPhone X updates to a new 
> iOS, I lose the click sound when I enter something with the on screen 
> keyboard. I particularly notice this when unlocking my phone. I checked 
> Settings, and it’s on. When I connect either my Focus or a keyboard with 
> Bluetooth, the sound is there, and it stays after I disconnect what I was 
> using.
>  
> Any ideas?
>  
> Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
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Re: Any Experiences with the Call Filter App?

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Yep… just follow the instructions and the app will be activated with your phone 
number.

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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
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> Okay, so it's just a matter of downloading and installing the ap from the 
> app store then?
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>> On 8/26/2021 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I  use the app and it is accessible. It’s kind of one of those set it up and 
>> leave it type of apps. From time to time, you may want to look at it in case 
>> there are some calls that were blocked that you missed.
>> 
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>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Part of my upgrade package with Verizon gives me the option to download and 
>>> use the Call Filter app. It's supposed to make it possible to block 
>>> spam/robocalls. Has anyone used this app and how was it regarding 
>>> accessibility?
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In the past several updates to iOS, key clicks don't work until after connecting either a braille display or keyboard with Bluetooth.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

This is one that doesn't make sense to me. After my iPhone X updates to a new 
iOS, I lose the click sound when I enter something with the on screen keyboard. 
I particularly notice this when unlocking my phone. I checked Settings, and 
it's on. When I connect either my Focus or a keyboard with Bluetooth, the sound 
is there, and it stays after I disconnect what I was using.

Any ideas?

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

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Re: Turning off and then back iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Which phone do you have?
I think the technique might be different with the phones with no home button.
Try holding the side button for 6 or 10 seconds and the power off button should 
show up on the screen.
Try flipping the mute switch down when you turn it on and see if you don't get 
a slight vibration as it comes back.



Richard
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Is there another way to turn my iPhone off other then going to settings? Also 
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Re: Any Experiences with the Call Filter App?

[Lisa Belville]

Okay, so it's just a matter of downloading and installing the ap from 
the app store then?




Lisa Belville
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On 8/26/2021 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:

Hi,
I  use the app and it is accessible. It’s kind of one of those set it up and 
leave it type of apps. From time to time, you may want to look at it in case 
there are some calls that were blocked that you missed.

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On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


Part of my upgrade package with Verizon gives me the option to download and use 
the Call Filter app. It's supposed to make it possible to block spam/robocalls. 
Has anyone used this app and how was it regarding accessibility?



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Turning off and then back iPhone

[Star Gazer]

Is there another way to turn my iPhone off other then going to settings? Also I 
seem to take forever to get it back on. Any good tips when pressing the side 
button? I would love it 2 vibrate when the Apple appears e

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Re: Any Experiences with the Call Filter App?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
I  use the app and it is accessible. It’s kind of one of those set it up and 
leave it type of apps. From time to time, you may want to look at it in case 
there are some calls that were blocked that you missed.

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> Hi, all.
> 
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> Part of my upgrade package with Verizon gives me the option to download and 
> use the Call Filter app. It's supposed to make it possible to block 
> spam/robocalls. Has anyone used this app and how was it regarding 
> accessibility?
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Any Experiences with the Call Filter App?

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, all.


Part of my upgrade package with Verizon gives me the option to download 
and use the Call Filter app. It's supposed to make it possible to block 
spam/robocalls. Has anyone used this app and how was it regarding 
accessibility?




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RE: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Joe,

I do have an iPad and enjoy it, but there are still some things I find much 
easier to do on a PC.  

You can navigate by headings in a browser,but I know of no way to do this 
without using the rotor.

I also am a heavy user of the Find feature with JAWS on web pages and am not 
aware of an equivalent in IOS.  I would love to be proven wrong on this.

I also need to use Excel and Word quite a lot, which I find much easier on the 
PC.

So it really depends on what you want to use it for, in my opinion.

Pam




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Subject: iPad as a Productivity Tool

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
that "improvement" is purely subjective.

First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
without using the roter?

Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
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I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
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Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Joe; I’ve been using iOS products and Mac products since 2015. I’ve never 
went back to windows for any reason. Just pick up the iOS and Mac products and 
don’t look back. When I want to edit an app I bring it into notes. I do it by 
hand. And you certainly can jump from heading to heading with a Bluetooth 
keyboard. Hope this helps. Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
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iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Joe Orozco]

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
that "improvement" is purely subjective.

First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
without using the roter?

Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
best bet, I'd be curious to know this.

Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
from you.

Thank you kindly in advance,

Joe


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Re: phone won't do anything

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That’s what I would say too. It’s a good thing to do every once in a while. 

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:04, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> That is what Joseph said. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: phone won't do anything
> 
> I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
> basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it 
> you press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and 
> finally press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a 
> minute and a half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset 
> itself.  hope that is of some help to you.  Janet
> 
> On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
>> 
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Re: the Hoopla app and starting the playing of media

[Barbara Stahl]

I use this app too, but I would say that it works relatively well with VO 
rather than great. 
I have the latest version of the app on my phone and it won't tell you how much 
of an audiobook you have left to read. Also, I don't see a way to move through 
the book by chapters or sections, just the buttons that let you move in 30 
second intervals.  Personally, I prefer the overdrive app, but its nice to have 
most audiobooks available to borrow any time you want rather than having to 
wait for them to become available as you have to do with the overdrive app.  

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok, never mind.  It turns out that unless it gives a very definite 
> confirmation that you have borrowed something it hasn't borrowed it.  I had 
> not borrowed anything.  Once I actually did though I was able to double tap 
> on the title and the next page does show a play button.  
> 
> 
> 
> this app works great with VO.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
> 
>> On 8/25/2021 3:28 PM, Dan wrote:
>> I learned about this app from my local library.  I decided to look it up on 
>> AppleVis but there wasn't much recent info there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I installed it and have been playing with it but I can't figure out how to 
>> start media playing.  I did borrow some music but it won't play and I can't 
>> find a play button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone out there figure out this app?  Help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

alan problem solved don't panic on my account thanks for your concern 
though.  Janet


On 26/08/2021 14:54, Alan Lemly wrote:

Janet,

Are you sure your iPhone battery has any charge? I'd suggest you plug 
it into a power adapter in the wall and give it a couple of hours to 
charge and try the reset again with volume up, volume down, and 
holding in the side power button. You will be prompted for your 
passcode when resetting this way.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook  for iOS

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Joseph Hudson 

*Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2021 3:46:33 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: phone won't do anything

Are you doing it the way that it's supposed to be done. After you 
press the two volume buttons, you're supposed to hold down the power 
button.



On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 3:03 AM Janet Bell > wrote:


tried that and it doesn't do anything at all.

On 26/08/2021 08:03, Joseph Hudson wrote:


Try resetting the phone by doing the volume buttons quickly one
at a time and then the power button. That should unfreeze your phone.


On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 1:21 AM Janet Bell mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Morning please can someone help.  my iPhone se20 has decided
not to do
anything today you can move round the screen but you can't
double tapp
anywhere I tried to power it off but again it wouldn't do
it.  any help
would be appreciated.  Janet

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RE: phone won't do anything

[bentleyj1952]

I have not experimented but for over a year now, many people have said that you 
need to hold the power button down for a minute or so.

Is this just one of those rumors that have been floating around for over a year 
now?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: phone won't do anything

Yeah, it is amazing how many problems can be solved by either restarting it, or 
doing a hard reset, which is what you did. Who knows what happened to it. 
Actually, you don't need to hold the power button in more than maybe 10 seconds 
or so. I was just curious as to what happened to it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it you 
press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and finally 
press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a minute and a 
half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset itself.  hope 
that is of some help to you.  Janet

On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
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Re: phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

actually Arnold according to the apple help line yes you do. Janet

On 26/08/2021 14:08, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Yeah, it is amazing how many problems can be solved by either restarting it, or 
doing a hard reset, which is what you did. Who knows what happened to it. 
Actually, you don't need to hold the power button in more than maybe 10 seconds 
or so. I was just curious as to what happened to it.

Arnold Schmidt


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On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it you 
press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and finally 
press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a minute and a 
half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset itself.  hope 
that is of some help to you.  Janet

On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?

Arnold Schmidt


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On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet



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Re: phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

ok what you do is press in volume up button, then volume down button and 
then hold in the power button for over a minute I would suggest a minute 
and a half and by this time your screen should be blank wait a further 
minute and then power your phone on.  hope that is of some use.  Janet


On 26/08/2021 16:04, Carolyn wrote:

How did you solve it, Janet?

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problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet



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Re: phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

yes but what he didn't say was to hold the power button in for over a 
minute which I didn't do initially.


On 26/08/2021 16:04, Carolyn wrote:

That is what Joseph said.

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I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it you 
press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and finally 
press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a minute and a 
half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset itself.  hope 
that is of some help to you.  Janet

On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?

Arnold Schmidt


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On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet


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RE: phone won't do anything

[Carolyn]

That is what Joseph said. 

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I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it you 
press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and finally 
press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a minute and a 
half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset itself.  hope 
that is of some help to you.  Janet

On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
>
> Arnold Schmidt
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> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
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RE: phone won't do anything

[Carolyn]

How did you solve it, Janet? 

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problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet

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Re: Braille display

[pegkane52]

Hi Richard,
I am a certified rehabilitation teacher and work at the New Jersey commission 
for the blind for a while then for a private agency, occasionally I do work, 
but I am also retired, waiting for my husband to retire soon.
Thanks for all your help you do a great job on this list.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> HI Peggy,
> I used to teach at the Oregon Commission for the Blind.  I am retired now, 
> Wahoo!
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille display
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I am running the latest software version whatever that is 14 point something 
> whatever the last update was and no it just says the name of the braille 
> display and you double tap on it and then it gives you all the settings the 
> only other thing I could think of is that it showing up if you look in the 
> board mobile app and you go under settings there are settings for Belle 
> braille displays, unless they didn’t take it off my account I have tried to 
> call them I have received no response for them from them as of yet. Know when 
> that braille display shows up in settings
> Sorry about that when I go to settings and I find braille display and it says 
> the name the only thing you can do is double tap on it you can’t do anything 
> else and there’s all the settings there is if I had a braille display.
> It’s definitely a first for me I have never encountered this before.
> Thanks for all your help.
> Have a question where do you teach??
> Peggy
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It sure is crazy that when you touch the name of that display in the braille 
> settings and flick up there is no more option.
> Which iOS are you running?
>  
> Other than it sitting there, is it getting in your way?  I’d be tempted to 
> ignore it if it isn’t causing a problem.
> Perhaps then in the next iOS update, it will just go away.  Fingers crossed.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 2:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille display
>  
> Hi, there is no rather or nothing that says more information under braille 
> all I’m getting or the settings and the braille display name but there is no 
> button that says more info. July thanks for the information though.
> Peggy
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:50 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Try double tapping braille  under VoiceOver settings. Next to the device 
> name you should find more info. Then you should be able to find forget this 
> device. Typically that’s the last setting under more info 
> Hope that helps
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:26 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I turned off Bluetooth hit the volume up volume down and held in the power 
> button and it did not take the name of the braille display out of settings 
> when you get to Braille under accessibility.
> If you come up with any other ideas I would appreciate it thank you so much.
> Peggy
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  It is the three step process. 1. up volume, 2, down volume, and you want to 
> do those two fairly quickly; then 3, hold the power button without also 
> holding either volume button.
> It will take at least 6 to 10 seconds before the power off message goes away 
> and it starts the reboot process.
> HTH,
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 6:14 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Do I hold the up-and-down volumes at the same time while holding the power 
> button or do I push the up volume then the down button and then hold the 
> power button??
> Thanks for your help.
> Peggy
> 
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> I understood it doesn't show up in Bluetooth, but it shouldn't show up in 
> braille either if Bluetooth is off.  So I'm hoping that will clear out the 
> memory of that device.
> I guess the next thing would be to try just reseting network settings.
> You may still want to try Apple Accessibility, maybe you will get someone a 
> little more willing to dig into the issue.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>  
> Web site: 
> 

Re: Braille display

[Gerardo Corripio]

> Have you tried flicking up and down to see if you have a Delete option?

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RE: Braille display

[Richard Turner]

HI Peggy,
I used to teach at the Oregon Commission for the Blind.  I am retired now, 
Wahoo!




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille display

Hi Richard,
I am running the latest software version whatever that is 14 point something 
whatever the last update was and no it just says the name of the braille 
display and you double tap on it and then it gives you all the settings the 
only other thing I could think of is that it showing up if you look in the 
board mobile app and you go under settings there are settings for Belle braille 
displays, unless they didn’t take it off my account I have tried to call them I 
have received no response for them from them as of yet. Know when that braille 
display shows up in settings
Sorry about that when I go to settings and I find braille display and it says 
the name the only thing you can do is double tap on it you can’t do anything 
else and there’s all the settings there is if I had a braille display.
It’s definitely a first for me I have never encountered this before.
Thanks for all your help.
Have a question where do you teach??
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It sure is crazy that when you touch the name of that display in the braille 
settings and flick up there is no more option.
Which iOS are you running?

Other than it sitting there, is it getting in your way?  I’d be tempted to 
ignore it if it isn’t causing a problem.
Perhaps then in the next iOS update, it will just go away.  Fingers crossed.




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 2:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille display

Hi, there is no rather or nothing that says more information under braille all 
I’m getting or the settings and the braille display name but there is no button 
that says more info. July thanks for the information though.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️



On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:50 PM, TaraPrakash 
mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Try double tapping braille  under VoiceOver settings. Next to the device name 
you should find more info. Then you should be able to find forget this device. 
Typically that’s the last setting under more info
Hope that helps

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:26 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Richard,
I turned off Bluetooth hit the volume up volume down and held in the power 
button and it did not take the name of the braille display out of settings when 
you get to Braille under accessibility.
If you come up with any other ideas I would appreciate it thank you so much.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️



On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It is the three step process. 1. up volume, 2, down volume, and you want to 
do those two fairly quickly; then 3, hold the power button without also holding 
either volume button.
It will take at least 6 to 10 seconds before the power off message goes away 
and it starts the reboot process.
HTH,


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  
www.turner42.com




On Aug 25, 2021, at 6:14 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Hi Richard,
Do I hold the up-and-down volumes at the same time while holding the power 
button or do I push the up volume then the down button and then hold the power 
button??
Thanks for your help.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️



On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I understood it doesn't show up in Bluetooth, but it shouldn't show up in 
braille either if Bluetooth is off.  So I'm hoping that will clear out the 
memory of that device.
I 

Re: Braille display

[pegkane52]

Hi Richard,
I am running the latest software version whatever that is 14 point something 
whatever the last update was and no it just says the name of the braille 
display and you double tap on it and then it gives you all the settings the 
only other thing I could think of is that it showing up if you look in the 
board mobile app and you go under settings there are settings for Belle braille 
displays, unless they didn’t take it off my account I have tried to call them I 
have received no response for them from them as of yet. Know when that braille 
display shows up in settings
Sorry about that when I go to settings and I find braille display and it says 
the name the only thing you can do is double tap on it you can’t do anything 
else and there’s all the settings there is if I had a braille display.
It’s definitely a first for me I have never encountered this before.
Thanks for all your help.
Have a question where do you teach??
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It sure is crazy that when you touch the name of that display in the braille 
> settings and flick up there is no more option.
> Which iOS are you running?
>  
> Other than it sitting there, is it getting in your way?  I’d be tempted to 
> ignore it if it isn’t causing a problem.
> Perhaps then in the next iOS update, it will just go away.  Fingers crossed.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 2:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille display
>  
> Hi, there is no rather or nothing that says more information under braille 
> all I’m getting or the settings and the braille display name but there is no 
> button that says more info. July thanks for the information though.
> Peggy
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:50 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Try double tapping braille  under VoiceOver settings. Next to the device 
> name you should find more info. Then you should be able to find forget this 
> device. Typically that’s the last setting under more info 
> Hope that helps
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:26 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I turned off Bluetooth hit the volume up volume down and held in the power 
> button and it did not take the name of the braille display out of settings 
> when you get to Braille under accessibility.
> If you come up with any other ideas I would appreciate it thank you so much.
> Peggy
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  It is the three step process. 1. up volume, 2, down volume, and you want to 
> do those two fairly quickly; then 3, hold the power button without also 
> holding either volume button.
> It will take at least 6 to 10 seconds before the power off message goes away 
> and it starts the reboot process.
> HTH,
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 6:14 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Do I hold the up-and-down volumes at the same time while holding the power 
> button or do I push the up volume then the down button and then hold the 
> power button??
> Thanks for your help.
> Peggy
> 
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> I understood it doesn't show up in Bluetooth, but it shouldn't show up in 
> braille either if Bluetooth is off.  So I'm hoping that will clear out the 
> memory of that device.
> I guess the next thing would be to try just reseting network settings.
> You may still want to try Apple Accessibility, maybe you will get someone a 
> little more willing to dig into the issue.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>  
> Web site: 
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>  
> Hi Richard, it does not show up in my Bluetooth settings but I will try what 
> you said I’ve already called Apple Accessability, and they were unable to 
> help me.
> Thanks very much.
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RE: Braille display

[Richard Turner]

It sure is crazy that when you touch the name of that display in the braille 
settings and flick up there is no more option.
Which iOS are you running?

Other than it sitting there, is it getting in your way?  I’d be tempted to 
ignore it if it isn’t causing a problem.
Perhaps then in the next iOS update, it will just go away.  Fingers crossed.




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Hi, there is no rather or nothing that says more information under braille all 
I’m getting or the settings and the braille display name but there is no button 
that says more info. July thanks for the information though.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:50 PM, TaraPrakash 
mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Try double tapping braille  under VoiceOver settings. Next to the device name 
you should find more info. Then you should be able to find forget this device. 
Typically that’s the last setting under more info
Hope that helps

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:26 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Richard,
I turned off Bluetooth hit the volume up volume down and held in the power 
button and it did not take the name of the braille display out of settings when 
you get to Braille under accessibility.
If you come up with any other ideas I would appreciate it thank you so much.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It is the three step process. 1. up volume, 2, down volume, and you want to 
do those two fairly quickly; then 3, hold the power button without also holding 
either volume button.
It will take at least 6 to 10 seconds before the power off message goes away 
and it starts the reboot process.
HTH,


Richard
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wrote:
Hi Richard,
Do I hold the up-and-down volumes at the same time while holding the power 
button or do I push the up volume then the down button and then hold the power 
button??
Thanks for your help.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I understood it doesn't show up in Bluetooth, but it shouldn't show up in 
braille either if Bluetooth is off.  So I'm hoping that will clear out the 
memory of that device.
I guess the next thing would be to try just reseting network settings.
You may still want to try Apple Accessibility, maybe you will get someone a 
little more willing to dig into the issue.




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Subject: Re: Braille display

Hi Richard, it does not show up in my Bluetooth settings but I will try what 
you said I’ve already called Apple Accessability, and they were unable to help 
me.
Thanks very much.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Try turning off Bluetooth.
Rebooting the phone with the pressing up volume, then down volume, then holding 
the power button until it restarts.

Then, check the braille settings which when you do you will have to turn on 
Bluetooth but see if it goes away.

Next is to call Apple accessibility.




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Re: phone won't do anything

[Alan Lemly]

Janet,

Are you sure your iPhone battery has any charge? I'd suggest you plug it into a 
power adapter in the wall and give it a couple of hours to charge and try the 
reset again with volume up, volume down, and holding in the side power button. 
You will be prompted for your passcode when resetting this way.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Joseph 
Hudson 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 3:46:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: phone won't do anything


Are you doing it the way that it's supposed to be done. After you press the two 
volume buttons, you're supposed to hold down the power button.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 3:03 AM Janet Bell 
mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

tried that and it doesn't do anything at all.

On 26/08/2021 08:03, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Try resetting the phone by doing the volume buttons quickly one at a time and 
then the power button. That should unfreeze your phone.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 1:21 AM Janet Bell 
mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Morning please can someone help.  my iPhone se20 has decided not to do
anything today you can move round the screen but you can't double tapp
anywhere I tried to power it off but again it wouldn't do it.  any help
would be appreciated.  Janet

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RE: Question about update

[Rena]

Hi,

 

I checked my iPhone 6S, and yes, the update was done. The same happened with 
contacts. First I updated the contacts in the SE using the Mac, and when I 
tried to update the contacts in the 6S, the contacts were already updated.

Perhaps all this happened through iCloud. I’m just guessing.

Thanks for your answers.

 

Rena

 

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Lemly
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Rena,

 

It seems very unlikely that both of your iPhones were updated when you updated 
your SE with your Mac. I don't use a Mac but a two for one update would seem to 
violate computer logic in my opinion.

 

You can check the version of your 6S by going to Settings, General, Software 
update and seeing what version is there.

 

Alan Lemly   

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Rena 
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Subject: Question about update 

 

Hello,

 

I have 2 iPhones: 6S and SE. I updated the SC using my Mac, and when I tried to 
update the 6S also using the Mac, it seemed that the update was already done.

Is it possible that the second iPhone updated when I updated the first one?

In any case, where do I go to check the iOS version of the 6S?

I don’t use WIFI.

 

Rena

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RE: the Alex voice

[Casey Wollner]

Hi the Tom enhanced voice or the compact tom voice?
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
literophi...@myself.com
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the Alex voice
 
Hi, my opinion may be helpful, at least to some extent, since I’m not a native 
speaker and English is a language I’ve learned as an adult. I used Alex for a 
couple of years on my iphone, but I noticed that at times it mispronounced some 
words,  at other times I wasn’t able to understand it because the 
pronunciation, although close to an accurate pronunciation,  was 
unconventional.  So, now I use Tom, which from my perspective, is more 
understandable.  70 percent is my speaking rate.  
I believe that the high quality thing has nothing to do with this, and instead 
of that, there might be other possible explanations beyond the simplistic and 
simplifying cliché of saying that this is a subjective matter. In my computer, 
for instance, I love to use the Eloquence voice in English as well.  Some 
friends of mine that are native speakers were surprised that I use Eloquence at 
a very high rate speed, and still being  able to understand it.  
 
Best,
 Leo Bado.
 
"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul 
Auster. "City of Glass"
 
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Hi are any of you using the Alex voice on your phone?
And if so what made you select it over all the other voices that you can use on 
your iPhone?
Also what is the speed rate you find that he reads the best where you can 
understand him?
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Re: phone won't do anything

[Arnold Schmidt]

Yeah, it is amazing how many problems can be solved by either restarting it, or 
doing a hard reset, which is what you did. Who knows what happened to it. 
Actually, you don't need to hold the power button in more than maybe 10 seconds 
or so. I was just curious as to what happened to it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it you 
press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and finally 
press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a minute and a 
half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset itself.  hope 
that is of some help to you.  Janet

On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
> 

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Re: phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix 
it you press the volume up button first and them the volume down button 
and finally press the power button in holding it in for about a minute 
or a minute and a half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off 
and reset itself.  hope that is of some help to you.  Janet


On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?

Arnold Schmidt


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On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet



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Re: phone won't do anything

[Arnold Schmidt]

Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it? 

Arnold Schmidt 


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problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet

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RE: the Alex voice

[literophilus]

Hi, my opinion may be helpful, at least to some extent, since I’m not a native 
speaker and English is a language I’ve learned as an adult. I used Alex for a 
couple of years on my iphone, but I noticed that at times it mispronounced some 
words,  at other times I wasn’t able to understand it because the 
pronunciation, although close to an accurate pronunciation,  was 
unconventional.  So, now I use Tom, which from my perspective, is more 
understandable.  70 percent is my speaking rate.  

I believe that the high quality thing has nothing to do with this, and instead 
of that, there might be other possible explanations beyond the simplistic and 
simplifying cliché of saying that this is a subjective matter. In my computer, 
for instance, I love to use the Eloquence voice in English as well.  Some 
friends of mine that are native speakers were surprised that I use Eloquence at 
a very high rate speed, and still being  able to understand it.  

 

Best,

 Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul 
Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: the Alex voice

 

Hi are any of you using the Alex voice on your phone?

And if so what made you select it over all the other voices that you can use on 
your iPhone?

Also what is the speed rate you find that he reads the best where you can 
understand him?

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phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet

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Re: Braille display

[pegkane52]

Hi, there is no rather or nothing that says more information under braille all 
I’m getting or the settings and the braille display name but there is no button 
that says more info. July thanks for the information though.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:50 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Try double tapping braille  under VoiceOver settings. Next to the device 
> name you should find more info. Then you should be able to find forget this 
> device. Typically that’s the last setting under more info 
> Hope that helps
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:26 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> I turned off Bluetooth hit the volume up volume down and held in the power 
>> button and it did not take the name of the braille display out of settings 
>> when you get to Braille under accessibility.
>> If you come up with any other ideas I would appreciate it thank you so much.
>> Peggy
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>> 
 On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
>>>  It is the three step process. 1. up volume, 2, down volume, and you want 
>>> to do those two fairly quickly; then 3, hold the power button without also 
>>> holding either volume button.
>>> It will take at least 6 to 10 seconds before the power off message goes 
>>> away and it starts the reboot process.
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> website:  www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 25, 2021, at 6:14 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Richard,
 Do I hold the up-and-down volumes at the same time while holding the power 
 button or do I push the up volume then the down button and then hold the 
 power button??
 Thanks for your help.
 Peggy
 
 Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
 
>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
> 
> I understood it doesn't show up in Bluetooth, but it shouldn't show up 
> in braille either if Bluetooth is off.  So I'm hoping that will clear out 
> the memory of that device.
> I guess the next thing would be to try just reseting network settings.
> You may still want to try Apple Accessibility, maybe you will get someone 
> a little more willing to dig into the issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ce22b976b83cb4fe98b5e08d9682ecc10%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637655372472262870%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=HelC3ZcOzHdPp96zZU8XKX1rHuuanXfxydypOwT2n5o%3Dreserved=0
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> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille display
> 
> Hi Richard, it does not show up in my Bluetooth settings but I will try 
> what you said I’ve already called Apple Accessability, and they were 
> unable to help me.
> Thanks very much.
> Peggy
> 
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Try turning off Bluetooth.
>> Rebooting the phone with the pressing up volume, then down volume, then 
>> holding the power button until it restarts.
>> 
>> Then, check the braille settings which when you do you will have to turn 
>> on Bluetooth but see if it goes away.
>> 
>> Next is to call Apple accessibility.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ce22b976b83cb4fe98b5e08d9682ecc10%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637655372472262870%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=HelC3ZcOzHdPp96zZU8XKX1rHuuanXfxydypOwT2n5o%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> pegkan...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 5:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Braille display
>> 
>> Hi,
>> At one time I had an E reader braille display and have since returned 
>> the item. Now when I open up settings and go to braille it shows the 
>> title of the evil year. No matter what I do, I cannot seem to get rid of 
>> this title. It is no longer in my Bluetooth settings, and I have tried 
>> everything that I can think of to get rid of this title but nothing I do 
>> 

Re: phone won't do anything

[Joseph Hudson]

Are you doing it the way that it's supposed to be done. After you press the
two volume buttons, you're supposed to hold down the power button.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 3:03 AM Janet Bell  wrote:

> tried that and it doesn't do anything at all.
> On 26/08/2021 08:03, Joseph Hudson wrote:
>
> Try resetting the phone by doing the volume buttons quickly one at a time
> and then the power button. That should unfreeze your phone.
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 1:21 AM Janet Bell  wrote:
>
>> Morning please can someone help.  my iPhone se20 has decided not to do
>> anything today you can move round the screen but you can't double tapp
>> anywhere I tried to power it off but again it wouldn't do it.  any help
>> would be appreciated.  Janet
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Re: phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

tried that and it doesn't do anything at all.

On 26/08/2021 08:03, Joseph Hudson wrote:


Try resetting the phone by doing the volume buttons quickly one at a 
time and then the power button. That should unfreeze your phone.



On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 1:21 AM Janet Bell > wrote:


Morning please can someone help.  my iPhone se20 has decided not
to do
anything today you can move round the screen but you can't double
tapp
anywhere I tried to power it off but again it wouldn't do it. any
help
would be appreciated.  Janet

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Re: phone won't do anything

[Joseph Hudson]

Try resetting the phone by doing the volume buttons quickly one at a time
and then the power button. That should unfreeze your phone.

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> Morning please can someone help.  my iPhone se20 has decided not to do
> anything today you can move round the screen but you can't double tapp
> anywhere I tried to power it off but again it wouldn't do it.  any help
> would be appreciated.  Janet
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phone won't do anything

[Janet Bell]

Morning please can someone help.  my iPhone se20 has decided not to do 
anything today you can move round the screen but you can't double tapp 
anywhere I tried to power it off but again it wouldn't do it.  any help 
would be appreciated.  Janet


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