RE: re iphone advice please

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Let's hope it will be more interesting than the 10th anniversary when the 
iPhone X came out, if I remember correctly that phone was a 1-year wonder and 
discontinued in 2018 with the release of the XS and XR.
In any case, I doubt Apple will make the release of a phone with under-display 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id or one without ports or one which folds or 
maybe one you can roll up like a carpet conditional to the 20th or 25th 
anniversary, these advances come when they come.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 10, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th anniversary.  
That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is 
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the 
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and 
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which 
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029 
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no 
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live 
>> off the stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the 
>> iPhone in whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the 
>> Apple Watch does not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think 
>> that will be different with these goggles. I think there are many 
>> people who may not want to run around with goggles on their head all 
>> day long and while such articles with such titles are pretty 
>> successful in getting people to click on them, I think their ability 
>> to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
>> computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches 
>> desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 
>> years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR 
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home 
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to 
>> potentially sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to 
>> Wedbush. But the iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest 
>> of this decade left before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz 
>> now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with 
>> home buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has 
>> been rumored to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
>> the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use 
>> as a home button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but 
>> they aren't as easy or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 
>> 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial chirp starting the home gesture 
>> not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So much so that I 
>> customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app switcher 
>> and home. Different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>> of Sieghard Weitzel 
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a 
>> huge advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to 
>> learn the swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or 
>> bring up the app switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then 
>> certainly they would have to deal with a phone with no home button in 
>> a few years.
>>  
>>  

RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi mark,

I have the series 7 gps 

I'd seen that hand washing feature 
But I've never tried it,
Now you make me rethink that when I need to tomorrow.
 You make it sound more interesting than I thought it would be.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2021 7:08 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Hello All,

Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.

I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my series 
4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to the new watch.

So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit, it 
is kind of fun.  

I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but, as of 
my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the job done 
right (smile).

Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my first 
new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.

What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.

Mark


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My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.

I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my
series 4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to the
new watch.

So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit,
it is kind of fun.  

I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but, as
of my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the
job done right (smile).

Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my
first new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.

What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.

Mark


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RE: re iphone advice please

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hell,
I'm just hoping I wake up tomorrow 

Lets not get carried away here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th anniversary.  
That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is 
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the 
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and 
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which 
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029 
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no 
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live 
>> off the stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the 
>> iPhone in whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the 
>> Apple Watch does not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think 
>> that will be different with these goggles. I think there are many 
>> people who may not want to run around with goggles on their head all 
>> day long and while such articles with such titles are pretty 
>> successful in getting people to click on them, I think their ability 
>> to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
>> computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches 
>> desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 
>> years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR 
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home 
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to 
>> potentially sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to 
>> Wedbush. But the iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest 
>> of this decade left before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz 
>> now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with 
>> home buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has 
>> been rumored to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
>> the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use 
>> as a home button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but 
>> they aren't as easy or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 
>> 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial chirp starting the home gesture 
>> not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So much so that I 
>> customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app switcher 
>> and home. Different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>> of Sieghard Weitzel 
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a 
>> huge advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to 
>> learn the swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or 
>> bring up the app switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then 
>> certainly they would have to deal with a phone with no home button in 
>> a few years.
>>  
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mo
>>  Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>  
>>  Hi Richard and Wayne,
>>  Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
>>  This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to 
>> have a home button as other 

Re: iOS 15.1.

[Daniel MacDonald]

What do you mean by protecting mail?

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
>  wrote:
> 
> I sent a message earlier but I don’t know if it went through. So I now have 
> Matt’s phone updated as well. Also was I supposed to leave the email 
> unprotected because that’s the way I have it right now.
> 
> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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iOS 15.1.

[Jenny Bomareto]

I sent a message earlier but I don’t know if it went through. So I now have 
Matt’s phone updated as well. Also was I supposed to leave the email 
unprotected because that’s the way I have it right now.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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iOS 15.1.

[Jenny Bomareto]

Was I supposed to protect the mail or unprotected right now I have it not 
protected.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Re: re iphone advice please

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th
anniversary.  That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off
>> the
>> stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone
>> in
>> whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch
>> does
>> not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be
>> different
>> with these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run
>> around with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles
>> with
>> such titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I
>> think their ability to correctly predict what will happen is less
>> successful. Despite the computing power of today's smartphones and even
>> smart watches desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in
>> the
>> last 2 years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some
>> AR
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to
>> potentially
>> sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But
>> the
>> iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left
>> before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home
>> buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been
>> rumored
>> to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the
>> app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home
>> button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as
>> easy
>> or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing
>> that initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as
>> pressing a button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a
>> dedicated one for the app switcher and home. Different strokes for
>> different
>> folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Sieghard Weitzel 
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge
>> advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the
>> swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the
>> app
>> switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would
>> have to deal with a phone with no home button in a few years.
>>  
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mo
>>  Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>  
>>  Hi Richard and Wayne,
>>  Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
>>  This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a
>> home button as other models they have used have had this.
>>  Out of these three which has the home button please?
>>  
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>>  Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
>>  

Re: re iphone advice please

[Wayne Merritt]

Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is
going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the
iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and
given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which
over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029
is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no
ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off the
> stock market.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>
> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone in
> whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch does
> not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be different
> with these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run
> around with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles with
> such titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I
> think their ability to correctly predict what will happen is less
> successful. Despite the computing power of today's smartphones and even
> smart watches desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the
> last 2 years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR
> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> TaraPrakash
> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>
>
>
> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button.
>
>
>
>
> As for this article,
>
> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially
> sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the
> iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left
> before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's
> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
>   
>
>   Sieghard,
>
>   
>
>   I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home
> buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored
> to still have a home button.
>
>   
>
>   And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the
> app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home
> button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy
> or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing
> that initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as
> pressing a button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a
> dedicated one for the app switcher and home. Different strokes for different
> folks.
>
>   
>
>   Alan Lemly
>
>   
>
>   Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>
> 
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Sieghard Weitzel 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>   Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>
>   
>
>   I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge
> advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the
> swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app
> switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would
> have to deal with a phone with no home button in a few years.
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mo
>   Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>   
>   Hi Richard and Wayne,
>   Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
>   This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a
> home button as other models they have used have had this.
>   Out of these three which has the home button please?
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
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>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>   
>   One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 
> 11, so
> its hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long run,
> the SE has a chance of being supported 

RE: Sending Text Message Question

[Carolyn]

Actually, I do remember a time or two getting the swish, when I happened to 
have typed a message. I just never broke it down, figured sometimes it worked, 
sometimes it didn't. 

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Yes, when you send a message using the messages app, you get the swoosh sound, 
but not when you have Siri dictate and send the message.

This first started with the 15 update. 

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RE: Sending Text Message Question

[Carolyn]

I send mine with Siri, so therefore, no swish. 

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Hi. I'm using a XR with latest IOS. When I'm in the messages ap and send a text 
I get the swishing sound, but when I send a message using siri I don't.

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I am having the problem now. I miss the swish. 

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When I have voiceover on and send a text message I don't get the swish sound 
that it was sent. When I turn voice over off and send the message then I get 
the sound.  Is anyone having this problem and is there a fix for it? Thanks!
 
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RE: Sending Text Message Question

[Carolyn]

Yep, I think sometimes back with 14. I miss it, but can live without it. 

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Hi.

The no swish sound when sending texts with Siri has been going on since this 
Summer. I think it was going on before iOS 15 was released.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Hi. I'm using a XR with latest IOS. When I'm in the messages ap and send a text 
I get the swishing sound, but when I send a message using siri I don't.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: December 10, 2021 1:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Sending Text Message Question

I am having the problem now. I miss the swish. 

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Carla
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Subject: Sending Text Message Question

When I have voiceover on and send a text message I don't get the swish sound 
that it was sent. When I turn voice over off and send the message then I get 
the sound.  Is anyone having this problem and is there a fix for it? Thanks!
 
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RE: Sending Text Message Question

['Pat Marshall' via VIPhone]

Yes, this has been a problem for some time now.  annoying as I did like the 
swish noise too.  How can we have it returned then?




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Re: Sending Text Message Question

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Yes, when you send a message using the messages app, you get the swoosh 
sound, but not when you have Siri dictate and send the message.


This first started with the 15 update. 


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RE: Sending Text Message Question

[chrisjudge1967]

It was for sure.

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Minor
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Hi.

The no swish sound when sending texts with Siri has been going on since this 
Summer. I think it was going on before iOS 15 was released.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Hi. I'm using a XR with latest IOS. When I'm in the messages ap and send a text 
I get the swishing sound, but when I send a message using siri I don't.

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Subject: RE: Sending Text Message Question

I am having the problem now. I miss the swish. 

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Carla
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Subject: Sending Text Message Question

When I have voiceover on and send a text message I don't get the swish sound 
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Hi.

The no swish sound when sending texts with Siri has been going on since this 
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Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Hi. I'm using a XR with latest IOS. When I'm in the messages ap and send a text 
I get the swishing sound, but when I send a message using siri I don't.

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I am having the problem now. I miss the swish. 

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When I have voiceover on and send a text message I don't get the swish sound 
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RE: Sending Text Message Question

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Hi. I'm using a XR with latest IOS. When I'm in the messages ap and send a text 
I get the swishing sound, but when I send a message using siri I don't.

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I am having the problem now. I miss the swish. 

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Subject: Sending Text Message Question

When I have voiceover on and send a text message I don't get the swish sound 
that it was sent. When I turn voice over off and send the message then I get 
the sound.  Is anyone having this problem and is there a fix for it? Thanks!
 
Carla
 
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RE: re iphone advice please

[Carolyn]

True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off the 
stock market. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone in 
whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch does 
not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be different with 
these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run around 
with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles with such 
titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I think their 
ability to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches desktops and 
laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 years in record numbers 
and the emergence or introduction of some AR or VR goggles will not cause the 
smartphone to disappear any time soon.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

 

There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button. 

 

As for this article,  

This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially 
sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the 
iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left before 
it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's upcoming goggles. 
  https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Sieghard, 

 

I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home 
buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored to 
still have a home button. 

 

And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home 
button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy or 
as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing that 
initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as pressing a 
button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for 
the app switcher and home. Different strokes for different folks. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please 

 

I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge 
advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the swipe 
up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app switcher 
and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would have to deal 
with a phone with no home button in a few years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mo
Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

Hi Richard and Wayne,
Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have 
a home button as other models they have used have had this.
Out of these three which has the home button please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 
11, so its hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long 
run, the SE has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility is 
really the same in all iPhone models.
The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the 
home button?

 



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, 

RE: Sending Text Message Question

[Carolyn]

I am having the problem now. I miss the swish. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carla
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending Text Message Question

When I have voiceover on and send a text message I don't get the swish sound 
that it was sent. When I turn voice over off and send the message then I get 
the sound.  Is anyone having this problem and is there a fix for it? Thanks!
 
Carla
 
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RE: re iphone advice please

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone in 
whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch does 
not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be different with 
these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run around 
with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles with such 
titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I think their 
ability to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches desktops and 
laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 years in record numbers 
and the emergence or introduction of some AR or VR goggles will not cause the 
smartphone to disappear any time soon.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button.

As for this article,
This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially 
sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the 
iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left before 
it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's upcoming goggles. 
  https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Sieghard,

I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home buttons. 
The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored to still 
have a home button.

And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the app 
switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home button. 
They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy or as fast 
as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial 
chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So 
much so that I customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app 
switcher and home. Different strokes for different folks.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge 
advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the swipe 
up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app switcher 
and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would have to deal 
with a phone with no home button in a few years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo
Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

Hi Richard and Wayne,
Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a home 
button as other models they have used have had this.
Out of these three which has the home button please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 11, so its 
hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long run, the SE 
has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility is really the 
same in all iPhone models.
The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the home 
button?





Richard
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exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

Hello. Basically, do you want a home button or not. The SE 2020 has a home 
button, which many blind folk consider to be more accessible.
However, the newer phones after the 10 series, though they don't have home 
buttons, they are just as accessible. Basically, you slide a finger up from the 
bottom or down from the top. Based on the vibrations you feel and noises you 
hear, you can access the home screen, app switcher, notification or control 
centers. I've been using this newer style since the XR. Though there was an 
initial adjustment period, it did not take me long to get the hang of the new 
way. Now, I pick up my 2020 SE for work and find myself wanting to use the same 

RE: My iPhone X with iOS 15.1 acts like a Bluetooth keyboard is paired to it when there isn't one.

[Richard Turner]

This seems to be an issue in iOS 15.1.1 or possibly since 15.  I've run into 
this too.
Try connecting the keyboard again.
Then, press the left+right arrow keys together to toggle QuickNav off.  Make 
sure VO says QuickNav off, then switch back to your computer with the keyboard.
The phone should behave better now.
At least, this is working for me when that happens.

Annoying as hell.  I cannot duplicate it 1005 so haven't sent the steps to 
Apple to alert them.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My iPhone X with iOS 15.1 acts like a Bluetooth keyboard is paired to 
it when there isn't one.

Hi.

I used a Bluetooth keyboard to unlock my iPhone X. I switched the keyboard back 
to my computer, but now my phone is acting strange. Whenever I unlock it and 
get to where I enter my pass code, I hear the tone that indicates the phone is 
in edit mode, ready for a Bluetooth keyboard to enter the numbers. Also, when I 
use my finger to enter the numbers on the screen, when I lift my finger, I hear 
a click noise, as if a Bluetooth keyboard were being used. I haven't noticed 
anything such as on screen keyboards missing, but I rarely use those to enter 
texts.

Is there anything I need to be aware of, or is all good.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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My iPhone X with iOS 15.1 acts like a Bluetooth keyboard is paired to it when there isn't one.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I used a Bluetooth keyboard to unlock my iPhone X. I switched the keyboard back 
to my computer, but now my phone is acting strange. Whenever I unlock it and 
get to where I enter my pass code, I hear the tone that indicates the phone is 
in edit mode, ready for a Bluetooth keyboard to enter the numbers. Also, when I 
use my finger to enter the numbers on the screen, when I lift my finger, I hear 
a click noise, as if a Bluetooth keyboard were being used. I haven't noticed 
anything such as on screen keyboards missing, but I rarely use those to enter 
texts.

Is there anything I need to be aware of, or is all good.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Re: Bose frames

[Dan Yates]

Thanks everyone for this info! Will help a lot! I I foolishly agreed with my 
wife that I would wait until Christmas to open them, will be squirming until 
then! LOL

Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 5:11 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yes,
> As I had said, the bose music app is what you need for all the current top of 
> the range bose frames,
> The latest products from bose in the way of wifi / Bluetooth speakers use the 
> music app.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 6:31 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> Sorry I have the Tempos, but after rereading your message, I see you're 
> asking about the Tenors. I checked the App Store, and the Bose Music app is 
> indeed the app you want for the Tenors. Sorry about that.
> 
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> For the Tempos, you'll want the Bose Music app. I don't think it's strictly 
> necessary though, but you can use it to check a few things on the Tempos and 
> set a few settings.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> thom3...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I think you need the bose music app or the bose connects app.
> 
> Thom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
> Yates
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for 
> $220. Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
>> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
>> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
>> 
>> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
>> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you 
>> would see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a control.
>> 
>> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
>> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>> 
>> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear 
>> Earbuds
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
 On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses 
>>> I already have?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>> 
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
 
 I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by 
 my sighted wife to swap them out!
 With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
 Harry
 
>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
> Danney
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun 
> glasses,
> 
> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
> 
> Tenor are more squarish
> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear 
> drop shaped sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the 
> outer corner of the eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
> 
> The closest
> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or 

CapitalOne app issues

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi guys:

Is anyone having issues with the Capitalone iPhone app?

I cannot select an external account to transfer money. I can choose another
Capitalone 360 account but not my external bank account. Can anyone repro?

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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes,
As I had said, the bose music app is what you need for all the current top of 
the range bose frames,
The latest products from bose in the way of wifi / Bluetooth speakers use the 
music app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 6:31 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Sorry I have the Tempos, but after rereading your message, I see you're asking 
about the Tenors. I checked the App Store, and the Bose Music app is indeed the 
app you want for the Tenors. Sorry about that.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

For the Tempos, you'll want the Bose Music app. I don't think it's strictly 
necessary though, but you can use it to check a few things on the Tempos and 
set a few settings.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
thom3...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I think you need the bose music app or the bose connects app.

Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for $220. 
Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
Thanks,
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
> 
> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you would 
> see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a control.
> 
> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear 
> Earbuds
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses I 
>> already have?
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
 On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
>>> sighted wife to swap them out!
>>> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
>>> Harry
>>> 
> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
 Danney
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Simon A Fogarty
 Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Bose frames
 
 None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun 
 glasses,
 
 The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
 
 Tenor are more squarish
 Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear 
 drop shaped sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the 
 outer corner of the eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
 
 The closest
 I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Bose frames
 
 Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me 
 what style glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a 
 pair of sunglasses that are aviator style and they’re very 
 comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair of Bose frames that 
 would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank you stay 
 safe
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe