Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I set up my face ID in my room and don't really have any problems as
long as I have my phone positioned just wright.  I do have my passcode
set up as well.  Using my Hable makes this very easy if I need to
enter in my passcode to unlock my phone when face ID doesn't work, or
if I'm working with my Hable.

On 9/4/22, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where
> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing
> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the
> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much
> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that
> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face
> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been
> tempting in the past.
>
> Ann
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not
>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the
>> time, if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why
>> we could not get it done at Wal-Mart.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>
>> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a
>> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,
>> but I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I
>> will go outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some
>> people seem to have little problem using it, others just can't seem to
>> make it work consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only
>> can do as well as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem
>> with it gave their phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I
>> know voice over said it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work
>> better. This is just speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone
>> with which to experiment.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons
>> unclear to me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and
>> I have to reset it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the
>> alternate face ID so that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I
>> know people say that it should not matter if you are in a light or dark
>> environment, but in my very dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it
>> certainly has gotten a lot better with practice, but I don’t have quite
>> the luck that Sieghard has had, despite setting mine up per the
>> instructions given on this list about six months ago.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever
>> did, but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for
>> physical labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put
>> in a day in my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or
>> 3 days until either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little
>> cuts and scraps had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id
>> and it works for me I would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th
>> attention feature turned off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less
>> secure, but both my eyes are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at
>> night. I have no issue with Face I d with the attention feature enabled,
>> but it will not work if it doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine
>> even in absolute darkness with that feature disabled..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Sieghard
>>
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Esther Levegnale
>>Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>
>>
>>
>>on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't
>> think there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a
>> home button. I just use a pass code. Esther
>>
>>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson >  > wrote:
>>
>>It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with
>> face
>>ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to
>> face
>>ID.
>>
>>On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:

Re: Face ID hit or miss

[SoonerAnnie]

Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that without 
having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face ID. I have 
too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been tempting in 
the past. 

Ann 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the time, 
> if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why we could 
> not get it done at Wal-Mart. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
> 
> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  but 
> I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I will go 
> outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some people seem to 
> have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make it work 
> consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do as well 
> as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it gave their 
> phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know voice over said 
> it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. This is just 
> speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone with which to experiment. 
>  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear 
> to me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to 
> reset it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face 
> ID so that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that 
> it should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my 
> very dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a 
> lot better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has 
> had, despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about 
> six months ago.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical 
> labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in 
> my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until 
> either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had 
> heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I 
> would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned 
> off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes 
> are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with 
> Face I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it 
> doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness 
> with that feature disabled..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Best regards,
> 
>Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
>Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
> 
> 
> 
>on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't 
> think there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home 
> button. I just use a pass code. Esther
> 
>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson   > wrote:
> 
>It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
>ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
>ID.
>
>On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > 
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first 
> few days or
> 
>so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This 
> is so that
> 
>everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you 
> receivedmake
> 
>sense. Keep us posted.
> 

RE: Snooze alarm.

[Carolyn]

I did get Siri to set it. I finally managed to get in there, with advice of an 
iPhone user and techy guy, and turned off the Snooze option! I am way, way 
happy now! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Snooze alarm.

Hi.

A way to stop an alarm is with Siri. The way I do it is to tell it to remove 
that specific alarm. If the alarm you're setting is for every day or weekdays, 
it would mean setting it up again, but again, Siri is your friend.

Just a thought.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.

OK, are you trying to edit occur an alarm or add a new one? If you're adding a 
new one, there is a picker, on mine that says 2 o'clock. I can easily flip up 
or down to adjust the hour. Or the minute. And if you're in the alarm, the 
snooze button is just directly past the sound button. And mine currently says 
on.

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I Pressed Edit, but found no snooze and found no place to put 3 AM, that Jim 
> wants set for in the morning. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> joseph hudson
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.
> 
> Open up the clock app, go to the edit alarm button, and deselect the snooze 
> switch. Otherwise, just hit the stop button and that'll keep the snooze from 
> happening. In other words, don't hit your lock screen button. That will 
> snooze your alarm.
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
> 
>   What do I do to keep snooze button from ever happening. I do not like 
> it at all. So, when I turn off the alarm, does anyone know what I could do to 
> stop snooze too? Thanks.
> 
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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Carolyn]

I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the time, 
if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why we could 
not get it done at Wal-Mart. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  but I 
do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I will go 
outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some people seem to 
have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make it work 
consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do as well as 
the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it gave their phone 
a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know voice over said it was 
okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. This is just speculation on my 
part, I don't have a modern phone with which to experiment.  

Arnold Schmidt 
  
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:



I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear to 
me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to reset 
it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face ID so 
that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that it 
should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my very 
dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a lot 
better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has had, 
despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about six 
months ago.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever 
did, but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for 
physical labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a 
day in my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days 
until either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps 
had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I 
would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned 
off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes are 
prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with Face 
I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it doesn't see 
the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness with that feature 
disabled..

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

 

on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't 
think there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home 
button. I just use a pass code. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable 
with face
ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used 
to face
ID.

On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for 
the first few days or

so it would asked for your password more often than 
Face ID. This is so that

everything could stick to get it. However the 
suggestions you receivedmake

sense. Keep us posted.

 

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

 

On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 



Hello,

 

A couple of things to try:

* Try holding it at arms-length away from your 
face, straight out in front

of you.

* If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.

  

RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[Carolyn]

I had to set up facial ID, Mich, on my iPhone 11, coming from the original SE. 
The reason was that the SE had touch ID, and so facial ID had to be set up on 
my phone. Somehow, the guy at Wal-Mart, where I got the phone could not set it 
up, but I did. Now, people say it is not necessary to do it, but on a bright 
and sunny January afternoon, I went to the west side of my building and set it 
up. 

Now, mine works in dark or light, with or without glasses, but, of course not 
with a mask on. I would say it works at the very least, 80%. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your 
older phone can you still use face id?

Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: September 4, 2022 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your 
older phone can you still use face id?

 

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up





On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:36 PM, mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > 
wrote:

 

Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to 
the Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set 
up like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and everything 
like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that up as a 
option? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

 

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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Carolyn]

I totally agree about passcode and facial ID. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

Maybe they want to secure their phone or use Apple Pay in which case you have 
to set up a passcode. Of course in my opinion anybody who sets up a passcode 
should also set  up Face Id as it makes it so easy to unlock the phone and even 
if it only worked 8 out of 10 times (for me it's successful at least 19 out of 
20 times) then that still means I can easily unlock the phone with Face Id most 
of the time instead of having to type  a passcode every single time which would 
drive me bonkers. The fact is that I have way too much stuff on my phone to 
leave it wide open. I also turned on the setting where after 10 failed passcode 
attempts everything on the phone is erased.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 4:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I agree with you, I'm not sure I'm  fan of fice 
id either. You've gotten some good tips. Rather then mucking around with the 
sim card, why not just turn off passcode and face id? That'd be what I'd do.
   

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID hit or miss

Hi all, 

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. 


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Carolyn]

I have it disabled too. 

It is good that there is facial ID, because I had a friend being treated for 
cancer, and the chemo-therapy had caused her to temporarily have no fingerprint 
at all, so she had real problems with touch screens. So in her case, even with 
facial ID, she might have had to be over dependent on Siri for a while. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, but 
of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical labour 
like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in my 
woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until either 
the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had heeled. 
Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I would say 
about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned off I should 
add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes are prosthetic 
and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with Face I d with 
the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it doesn't see the eyes 
whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness with that feature 
disabled..

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

 

on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home button. 
I just use a pass code. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
ID.

On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:



I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first 
few days or

so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. 
This is so that

everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you 
receivedmake

sense. Keep us posted.

 

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

 

On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 



Hello,

 

A couple of things to try:

* Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, 
straight out in front

of you.

* If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.

* If you did not register face ID that way, try 
registering it again.

* Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. 
Sometimes, skin

oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up 
to your ear while on

a call.

* Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need 
to enter your pin

again.

 

If none of these things help, I would probably go back 
to where you bought

it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware 
issue.

 

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie 
mailto:sooneran...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi all,

 

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought 
an iPhone 13 mini and have

set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it 
seems that it'll work two

or three times and then will require me to use 
my pass code to unlock my

phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM 
card back in my SE 20 lol.

It's much easier to just reach over and unlock 
it with my finger than to

pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock 
without having to type in

my pass code. Any suggestions would be 
appreciated. Thanks for reading.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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RE: Snooze alarm.

[Carolyn]

I was trying to add a new alarm. 2 P.M. was the last setting I saw. I saw no 
way to type in 3 A.M. 

Thank you, Joseph! I finally got Snooze turned off! 

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joseph hudson
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 3:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.

OK, are you trying to edit occur an alarm or add a new one? If you're adding a 
new one, there is a picker, on mine that says 2 o'clock. I can easily flip up 
or down to adjust the hour. Or the minute. And if you're in the alarm, the 
snooze button is just directly past the sound button. And mine currently says 
on.

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> I Pressed Edit, but found no snooze and found no place to put 3 AM, that Jim 
> wants set for in the morning. 
> 
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> 
> Open up the clock app, go to the edit alarm button, and deselect the snooze 
> switch. Otherwise, just hit the stop button and that'll keep the snooze from 
> happening. In other words, don't hit your lock screen button. That will 
> snooze your alarm.
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
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>   What do I do to keep snooze button from ever happening. I do not like 
> it at all. So, when I turn off the alarm, does anyone know what I could do to 
> stop snooze too? Thanks.
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RE: Snooze alarm.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

A way to stop an alarm is with Siri. The way I do it is to tell it to remove 
that specific alarm. If the alarm you're setting is for every day or weekdays, 
it would mean setting it up again, but again, Siri is your friend.

Just a thought.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.

OK, are you trying to edit occur an alarm or add a new one? If you're adding a 
new one, there is a picker, on mine that says 2 o'clock. I can easily flip up 
or down to adjust the hour. Or the minute. And if you're in the alarm, the 
snooze button is just directly past the sound button. And mine currently says 
on.

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I Pressed Edit, but found no snooze and found no place to put 3 AM, that Jim 
> wants set for in the morning. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> joseph hudson
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.
> 
> Open up the clock app, go to the edit alarm button, and deselect the snooze 
> switch. Otherwise, just hit the stop button and that'll keep the snooze from 
> happening. In other words, don't hit your lock screen button. That will 
> snooze your alarm.
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
> 
>   What do I do to keep snooze button from ever happening. I do not like 
> it at all. So, when I turn off the alarm, does anyone know what I could do to 
> stop snooze too? Thanks.
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Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Arnold Schmidt]

I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  but I 
do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I will go 
outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some people seem to 
have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make it work 
consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do as well as 
the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it gave their phone 
a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know voice over said it was 
okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. This is just speculation on my 
part, I don't have a modern phone with which to experiment.  

Arnold Schmidt 
  
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:

I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear to 
me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to reset 
it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face ID so 
that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that it 
should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my very 
dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a lot 
better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has had, 
despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about six 
months ago.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical 
> labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in 
> my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until 
> either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had 
> heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I 
> would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned 
> off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes 
> are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with 
> Face I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it 
> doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness 
> with that feature disabled..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>  
> on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
> there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home 
> button. I just use a pass code. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
> ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
> ID.
> 
> On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or
> so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that
> everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake
> sense. Keep us posted.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>  
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> A couple of things to try:
> * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front
> of you.
> * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
> * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
> * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin
> oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on
> a call.
> * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin
> again.
>  
> If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought
> it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
>  
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have
> set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two
> or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my
> phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.
> It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to
> pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in
> my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.
>  
>  
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RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You will be prompted to enter a passcode and set up Face Id during the setup 
process of a new phone. If you wish you can skip it there and get everything 
done first, then simply go to Settings > Face Id and Passcode and then set up 
the passcode and afterwards set  up Face Id.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your 
older phone can you still use face id?

Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: September 4, 2022 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your 
older phone can you still use face id?

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up

On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:36 PM, mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:

Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the 
Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set up 
like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and everything 
like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that up as a 
option? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have the attention aware feature turned off?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear to 
me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to reset 
it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face ID so 
that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that it 
should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my very 
dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a lot 
better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has had, 
despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about six 
months ago.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, but 
of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical labour 
like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in my 
woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until either 
the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had heeled. 
Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I would say 
about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned off I should 
add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes are prosthetic 
and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with Face I d with 
the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it doesn't see the eyes 
whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness with that feature 
disabled..


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home button. 
I just use a pass code. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!



On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
ID.

On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or
so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that
everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake
sense. Keep us posted.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello,

A couple of things to try:
* Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front
of you.
* If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
* If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
* Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin
oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on
a call.
* Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin
again.

If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought
it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie 
mailto:sooneran...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi all,

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have
set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two
or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my
phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.
It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to
pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in
my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.


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RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

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Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

 

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older phone can you still use face id?

 

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up





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Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the 
Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set up 
like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and everything 
like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that up as a 
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Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:36 PM,   wrote:
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> Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the 
> Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set 
> up like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and 
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question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the
Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set
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Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Lynn Schneider]

I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear to 
me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to reset 
it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face ID so 
that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that it 
should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my very 
dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a lot 
better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has had, 
despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about six 
months ago.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical 
> labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in 
> my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until 
> either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had 
> heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I 
> would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned 
> off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes 
> are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with 
> Face I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it 
> doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness 
> with that feature disabled..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>  
> on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
> there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home 
> button. I just use a pass code. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
> ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
> ID.
> 
> On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or
> so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that
> everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake
> sense. Keep us posted.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>  
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> A couple of things to try:
> * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front
> of you.
> * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
> * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
> * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin
> oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on
> a call.
> * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin
> again.
>  
> If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought
> it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
>  
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have
> set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two
> or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my
> phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.
> It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to
> pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in
> my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe they want to secure their phone or use Apple Pay in which case you have 
to set up a passcode. Of course in my opinion anybody who sets up a passcode 
should also set  up Face Id as it makes it so easy to unlock the phone and even 
if it only worked 8 out of 10 times (for me it's successful at least 19 out of 
20 times) then that still means I can easily unlock the phone with Face Id most 
of the time instead of having to type  a passcode every single time which would 
drive me bonkers. The fact is that I have way too much stuff on my phone to 
leave it wide open. I also turned on the setting where after 10 failed passcode 
attempts everything on the phone is erased.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 4:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I agree with you, I'm not sure I'm  fan of fice 
id either. You've gotten some good tips. Rather then mucking around with the 
sim card, why not just turn off passcode and face id? That'd be what I'd do.
   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID hit or miss

Hi all, 

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. 


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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, but 
of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical labour 
like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in my 
woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until either 
the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had heeled. 
Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I would say 
about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned off I should 
add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes are prosthetic 
and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with Face I d with 
the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it doesn't see the eyes 
whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness with that feature 
disabled..


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home button. 
I just use a pass code. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
ID.

On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or
so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that
everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake
sense. Keep us posted.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello,

A couple of things to try:
* Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front
of you.
* If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
* If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
* Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin
oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on
a call.
* Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin
again.

If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought
it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie 
mailto:sooneran...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi all,

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have
set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two
or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my
phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.
It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to
pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in
my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.


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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I hope Kosta was well compensated, a few Million bucks is pocket change for 
Apple.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over 
App Store scam apps

I know some folks liked and used FlickType, so thought people would be 
interested in this.

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Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App 
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AppleInsider News - Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 4:30 PM

Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps
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Apple has reached a settlement with Kosta Eleftheriou, a developer who sued the 
company over scams in the App Store 
and copycat keyboards.

Eleftheriou is known for highlighting fake reviews on the App Store, as well as 
the prevalence of scam apps. He developed FlickType, an Apple Watch keyboard.

He found an 
abundance
 of apps that copied FlickType, with these competitors even going so far as to 
steal his promo videos. Eleftheriou expressed his frustration with the App 
Store review team over the apps' copied-and-pasted reviews with five-star 
ratings.

He sued 
Apple
 in 2021 after Apple released the Apple Watch Series 7. Thanks to the device's 
larger screen, the company released a full keyboard for it with swiping 
capabilities.

Apple rejected FlickType numerous times in the past but didn't remove the 
copycat apps, and Eleftheriou said he lost revenue as a result. Eleftheriou 
said he was in talks with Apple over a potential acquisition, and filed the 
lawsuit when he found the Apple Watch Series 
7 keyboard similar to 
FlickType.

The suit further alleged that Apple does little to police the App Store because 
it benefits from developers pushing high-priced subscriptions onto users.

According to a 
report
 on Thursday, Apple has settled the lawsuit with Eleftheriou. A request for 
dismissal of the lawsuit was filed on July 21, 2022 after Apple and Kpaw, Inc, 
Eleftheriou's company, finalized an agreement.

The terms of the settlement aren't clear.

Users can report scam apps in the App Store after Apple brought 
back
 a tool called "Report a Problem" in 2021. It's listed in the Information 
section, alongside details such as age rating, category, and more.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/09/01/apple-settles-lawsuit-with-developer-over-app-store-scam-apps?utm_medium=rss

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Re: Snooze alarm.

[joseph hudson]

OK, are you trying to edit occur an alarm or add a new one? If you're adding a 
new one, there is a picker, on mine that says 2 o'clock. I can easily flip up 
or down to adjust the hour. Or the minute. And if you're in the alarm, the 
snooze button is just directly past the sound button. And mine currently says 
on.

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I Pressed Edit, but found no snooze and found no place to put 3 AM, that Jim 
> wants set for in the morning. 
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> 
> Open up the clock app, go to the edit alarm button, and deselect the snooze 
> switch. Otherwise, just hit the stop button and that'll keep the snooze from 
> happening. In other words, don't hit your lock screen button. That will 
> snooze your alarm.
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
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>   What do I do to keep snooze button from ever happening. I do not like 
> it at all. So, when I turn off the alarm, does anyone know what I could do to 
> stop snooze too? Thanks.
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RE: Snooze alarm.

[Carolyn]

I Pressed Edit, but found no snooze and found no place to put 3 AM, that Jim 
wants set for in the morning. 

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Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.

Open up the clock app, go to the edit alarm button, and deselect the snooze 
switch. Otherwise, just hit the stop button and that'll keep the snooze from 
happening. In other words, don't hit your lock screen button. That will snooze 
your alarm.



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What do I do to keep snooze button from ever happening. I do not like 
it at all. So, when I turn off the alarm, does anyone know what I could do to 
stop snooze too? Thanks.

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RE: Snooze alarm.

[Carolyn]

Thanks for your help in this. I will see if I can turn it off. That would be 
great. It doesn't seem like it used to happen. 

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When the alarm goes off, I find a clock button in the upper left corner of the 
screen. Using VoiceOver actions, I flick down to stop the alarm, and it doesn’t 
snooze. I’d have to look in the clock app settings, which you should be able to 
get to in Settings -> clock, to see if there’s a way to just globally turn off 
the snooze option.

 

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Re: Snooze alarm.

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Open up the clock app, go to the edit alarm button, and deselect the snooze 
switch. Otherwise, just hit the stop button and that'll keep the snooze from 
happening. In other words, don't hit your lock screen button. That will snooze 
your alarm.

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What do I do to keep snooze button from ever happening. I do not like it at 
> all. So, when I turn off the alarm, does anyone know what I could do to stop 
> snooze too? Thanks.
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RE: Snooze alarm.

[Christopher Chaltain]

When the alarm goes off, I find a clock button in the upper left corner of the 
screen. Using VoiceOver actions, I flick down to stop the alarm, and it doesn't 
snooze. I'd have to look in the clock app settings, which you should be able to 
get to in Settings -> clock, to see if there's a way to just globally turn off 
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Snooze alarm.

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Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Esther Levegnale]

on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home button. 
I just use a pass code. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
> ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
> ID.
> 
>> On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or
>> so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that
>> everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake
>> sense. Keep us posted.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>> 
 On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> A couple of things to try:
>>> * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front
>>> of you.
>>> * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
>>> * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
>>> * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin
>>> oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on
>>> a call.
>>> * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin
>>> again.
>>> 
>>> If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought
>>> it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
>>> 
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie  wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have
 set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two
 or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my
 phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.
 It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to
 pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in
 my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.
 
 
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps

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I still hope that this settlement might mean that flicktype could return to our phones…HarryOn 4 Sep 2022, at 16:39, Richard Turner  wrote:I know some folks liked and used FlickType, so thought people would be interested in this. From: tech...@groups.io  On Behalf Of David GoldfieldSent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 8:25 AMTo: List Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps AppleInsider News - Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 4:30 PMApple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam appsAppleInsider is supported by its audience and may earn commission as an Amazon Associate and affiliate partner on qualifying purchases. These affiliate partnerships do not influence our editorial content. Apple has reached a settlement with Kosta Eleftheriou, a developer who sued the company over scams in the App Store and copycat keyboards. Eleftheriou is known for highlighting fake reviews on the App Store, as well as the prevalence of scam apps. He developed FlickType, an Apple Watch keyboard. He found an abundance of apps that copied FlickType, with these competitors even going so far as to steal his promo videos. Eleftheriou expressed his frustration with the App Store review team over the apps' copied-and-pasted reviews with five-star ratings. He sued Apple in 2021 after Apple released the Apple Watch Series 7. Thanks to the device's larger screen, the company released a full keyboard for it with swiping capabilities. Apple rejected FlickType numerous times in the past but didn't remove the copycat apps, and Eleftheriou said he lost revenue as a result. Eleftheriou said he was in talks with Apple over a potential acquisition, and filed the lawsuit when he found the Apple Watch Series 7 keyboard similar to FlickType. The suit further alleged that Apple does little to police the App Store because it benefits from developers pushing high-priced subscriptions onto users. According to a report on Thursday, Apple has settled the lawsuit with Eleftheriou. A request for dismissal of the lawsuit was filed on July 21, 2022 after Apple and Kpaw, Inc, Eleftheriou's company, finalized an agreement. The terms of the settlement aren't clear. Users can report scam apps in the App Store after Apple brought back a tool called "Report a Problem" in 2021. It's listed in the Information section, alongside details such as age rating, category, and more.https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/09/01/apple-settles-lawsuit-with-developer-over-app-store-scam-apps?utm_medium=rss      David Goldfield Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web siteWWW.DavidGoldfield.info 



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FW: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps

[Richard Turner]

I know some folks liked and used FlickType, so thought people would be 
interested in this.

 

From: tech...@groups.io  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 8:25 AM
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Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App 
Store scam apps

 

AppleInsider News - Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 4:30 PM


Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps




AppleInsider is supported by its audience and may earn commission as an Amazon 
Associate and affiliate partner on qualifying purchases. These affiliate 
partnerships do not influence our editorial content. 

Apple has reached a settlement with Kosta Eleftheriou, a developer who sued the 
company over scams in the App Store  
 and copycat keyboards. 

Eleftheriou is known for highlighting fake reviews on the App Store, as well as 
the prevalence of scam apps. He developed FlickType, an Apple Watch keyboard. 

He found an abundance 

  of apps that copied FlickType, with these competitors even going so far as to 
steal his promo videos. Eleftheriou expressed his frustration with the App 
Store review team over the apps' copied-and-pasted reviews with five-star 
ratings. 

He sued Apple 

  in 2021 after Apple released the Apple Watch Series 7. Thanks to the device's 
larger screen, the company released a full keyboard for it with swiping 
capabilities. 

Apple rejected FlickType numerous times in the past but didn't remove the 
copycat apps, and Eleftheriou said he lost revenue as a result. Eleftheriou 
said he was in talks with Apple over a potential acquisition, and filed the 
lawsuit when he found the Apple Watch Series 7 
  keyboard similar to 
FlickType. 

The suit further alleged that Apple does little to police the App Store because 
it benefits from developers pushing high-priced subscriptions onto users. 

According to a report 

  on Thursday, Apple has settled the lawsuit with Eleftheriou. A request for 
dismissal of the lawsuit was filed on July 21, 2022 after Apple and Kpaw, Inc, 
Eleftheriou's company, finalized an agreement. 

The terms of the settlement aren't clear. 

Users can report scam apps in the App Store after Apple brought back 

  a tool called "Report a Problem" in 2021. It's listed in the Information 
section, alongside details such as age rating, category, and more.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/09/01/apple-settles-lawsuit-with-developer-over-app-store-scam-apps?utm_medium=rss

 

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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Star Gazer]

I agree with you, I'm not sure I'm  fan of fice 
id either. You've gotten some good tips. Rather then mucking around with the 
sim card, why not just turn off passcode and face id? That'd be what I'd do.
   

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SoonerAnnie
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID hit or miss

Hi all, 

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. 


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