RE: I Just Used the OCR Scan Text Feature in iOS 16.2, with VoiceOver: An Impressive Tool for Low Vision Users
Hello Harry, Thank you for giving this a try. For the most part, your experience mirrors my own. I did not find it confusing as I quickly discovered that the amount of text recognized greatly depended upon the distance of the phone from the paper. No doubt that it is not ready for, primetime, for VoiceOver users, at large, but, after a little practice, I found it quick and easy to use and, given that it can be activated from within an edit field, most convenient. I certainly wouldn't recommend this feature as a replacement for third-party apps but it is definitely a step in the right direction as far as making OCR a native feature of the Apple OS feature-set. Mark -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone, The Next Generation Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 12:32 AM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I Just Used the OCR Scan Text Feature in iOS 16.2, with VoiceOver: An Impressive Tool for Low Vision Users I just tried this out with my 13 pro and while the camera was scanning the text of my letter, i could make out that the amount of text being detected and transcribed kept changing in a very unstable and confusing way. At first there were perhaps 4 lines of text, then perhaps 12 lines, then suddenly back to 4 lines, tgen 8 lines, then back to 4 lines - all without any audible feedback. There was an “Insert Text” button on the pop-up at the bottom of the screen which i had to double tap at a key moment when i guessed the maximum amount of text had been detected - but quickly, before the text in the text edit field disappeared again! I might stick to using Voice Dream Scanner… Harry > On 3 Jan 2023, at 06:16, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello All, > > So, a few moments ago, on my 14, with iOS 16.2 I decided to give the > Scan Text feature a whirl while composing a text message in 16.2. > > While I do not have enough vision to read the text of the display, > letter for letter, I do see well enough to detect objects in a > camera's field of view, recognize that text has been entered in to edit > fields, etc. > > So, I got a recent hardcopy letter, that I had received in the mail, > and placed it on a flat surface. When I initiated the feature from > within the text message edit field, the back camera was immediately > activated on the lower portion of the display. VoiceOver instructed > me to move the camera lower so that the letter was in the camera's field of > view. > > When the text was detected, I could see that it popped up in the edit > field near the top of the display. This was not a photo of the text > but, rather, an OCR version that VoiceOver could read as if I had > typed it into the edit field, manually. All I had to do in order to > save the text to the text message edit field was to single-finger, > double-tap the insert button located near the bottom of the display. > > Most impressive, at least to a low vision VoiceOver user. > > The OCR feature, as described above, also works in the Notes app. > > What I find most astonishing is that text recognition is virtually > instantaneous; I could not detect any lag time between when the text > on a piece of paper, in the Camera's field of view, appeared, and when > that same text popped up in the edit field into which it could be saved. > > Apple is clearly onto something wonderful hear. > > If only Apple's OCR would read out the text in the camera's field of > view, automatically, there would be virtually no need for any > third-party OCR apps. > > I realize that a totally blind VoiceOver user requires more specific > instructions, than, "Scroll down," in order to use OCR but, if any > company can make OCR, even after all these years, appear magical, it is Apple. > > In the meantime, for those who can use the Scan Text feature, I urge > you to do so and pass your findings on to Apple. > > Mark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/01d91f3a%24f0e5da60%24d2b18f20%24%40ucla.edu. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/04C584FE-E108-4C0D-B1CE-8B3AA5EE6606%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
moving apps
I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the App library, but I do not always get the results I want. I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can't do it consistently. I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces "Drop App X before (or after) app y, and that's what I want to do, but when I double-tap, I've created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the folder to get rid of it. Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/187b01d91fed%247d5c6e20%2478154a60%24%40gmail.com.
Huge Thank you
I want to thank everyone who responded to my problem with my SE 2020 phone. The problem I had with Siri is now fine as far as asking Siri to make calls, time, or anything. Adding a few seconds after pressing the Home key made the difference. Again, I really want to thank you all...Andy and Leroy Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/59e201d91f91%24a6ee62e0%24f4cb28a0%24%40comcast.net.
Re: I Just Used the OCR Scan Text Feature in iOS 16.2, with VoiceOver: An Impressive Tool for Low Vision Users
I just tried this out with my 13 pro and while the camera was scanning the text of my letter, i could make out that the amount of text being detected and transcribed kept changing in a very unstable and confusing way. At first there were perhaps 4 lines of text, then perhaps 12 lines, then suddenly back to 4 lines, tgen 8 lines, then back to 4 lines - all without any audible feedback. There was an “Insert Text” button on the pop-up at the bottom of the screen which i had to double tap at a key moment when i guessed the maximum amount of text had been detected - but quickly, before the text in the text edit field disappeared again! I might stick to using Voice Dream Scanner… Harry > On 3 Jan 2023, at 06:16, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello All, > > So, a few moments ago, on my 14, with iOS 16.2 I decided to give the Scan > Text feature a whirl while composing a text message in 16.2. > > While I do not have enough vision to read the text of the display, letter > for letter, I do see well enough to detect objects in a camera's field of > view, recognize that text has been entered in to edit fields, etc. > > So, I got a recent hardcopy letter, that I had received in the mail, and > placed it on a flat surface. When I initiated the feature from within the > text message edit field, the back camera was immediately activated on the > lower portion of the display. VoiceOver instructed me to move the camera > lower so that the letter was in the camera's field of view. > > When the text was detected, I could see that it popped up in the edit field > near the top of the display. This was not a photo of the text but, rather, > an OCR version that VoiceOver could read as if I had typed it into the edit > field, manually. All I had to do in order to save the text to the text > message edit field was to single-finger, double-tap the insert button > located near the bottom of the display. > > Most impressive, at least to a low vision VoiceOver user. > > The OCR feature, as described above, also works in the Notes app. > > What I find most astonishing is that text recognition is virtually > instantaneous; I could not detect any lag time between when the text on a > piece of paper, in the Camera's field of view, appeared, and when that same > text popped up in the edit field into which it could be saved. > > Apple is clearly onto something wonderful hear. > > If only Apple's OCR would read out the text in the camera's field of view, > automatically, there would be virtually no need for any third-party OCR > apps. > > I realize that a totally blind VoiceOver user requires more specific > instructions, than, "Scroll down," in order to use OCR but, if any company > can make OCR, even after all these years, appear magical, it is Apple. > > In the meantime, for those who can use the Scan Text feature, I urge you to > do so and pass your findings on to Apple. > > Mark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/01d91f3a%24f0e5da60%24d2b18f20%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/04C584FE-E108-4C0D-B1CE-8B3AA5EE6606%40icloud.com.
