RE: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

[Dennis Long]

I use a very good and wonderful device called the Hable One.  It allows me to 
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Subject: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

Hello All,

A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, when 
sending text messages.

It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I know 
that a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone, personally I 
find the technique slow and awkward.

How do I enter text in iOS?

First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."

Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the display when 
not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in one hand, 
fingers-free.

When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the wallet side 
to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case in the crook 
of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so that the back of 
the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm of my left hand, 
leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  

The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that the phone 
does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis, so to 
speak.

I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the left side 
of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, to access the 
letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreen keyboard.

I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except in that 
instance, I use my right index finger, only.

Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  

How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?

When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).

Mark


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When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, when
sending text messages.

It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I know
that a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,
personally I find the technique slow and awkward.

How do I enter text in iOS?

First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."

Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the display
when not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in one
hand, fingers-free.

When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the wallet
side to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case in
the crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so that
the back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm of
my left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  

The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that the
phone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,
so to speak.

I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the left
side of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, to
access the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreen
keyboard.

I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except in
that instance, I use my right index finger, only.

Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  

How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?

When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).

Mark


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Re: Twitter Confirms Third-Party Apps Like Tweetbot Were Intentionally Blocked

[Devin Prater]

He’s gotta make sure he’s getting those ads in front of everyone somehow.
Devin Prater
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> On Jan 17, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed. I deactivated my account as soon as he fired the accessibility team 
> just before he cut the rest of the staff in half and so on and so on. 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Twitter has become crazy. Just get out. Elon Musk is not qualified to own 
>> anything, much less a massive social media app, which he has done nothing 
>> but rec.
>> 
>> Twitter Confirms Third-Party Apps Like Tweetbot Were Intentionally Blocked
>> MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
>> 
>> Third-party Twitter apps like Tweetbot and Twitterrific have been 
>> intentionally blocked from using Twitter APIs, Twitter confirmed today. 
>> Without access to the underlying code for the social network, Tweetbot, 
>> Twitterrific, Birdie, Echofon, and other popular Twitter clients are 
>> non-functional and cannot be used.
>> 
>> 
>> Twitter's Dev account today said in a tweet 
>>  that Twitter is 
>> "enforcing its long-standing API rules," a change that could cause some apps 
>> not to work. There has been no word on which API rules the blocked Twitter 
>> clients have violated, and this is the first time that Twitter has provided 
>> insight into what's going on with third-party Twitter apps since they 
>> stopped working last Thursday.
>> 
>> When some third-party Twitter apps became unusable last week, it was 
>> initially believed that there could be some kind of bug causing the outage. 
>> Only the most popular Twitter clients were affected and blocked from 
>> Twitter's APIs, perhaps indicating an internal error. As Twitter declined to 
>> comment on the situation for days, however, it became clearer that it was an 
>> intentional decision. Over the weekend, The Information 
>> 
>>  said that in an internal Slack channel, a senior software engineer at 
>> Twitter clarified that the suspensions were done on purpose, suggesting many 
>> Twitter employees were not even aware of what was going on.
>> 
>> It is not known why Twitter has provided so little information on what is 
>> happening to highly popular third-party Twitter apps that have existed for 
>> years, nor if these apps will again be provided with access to the API if 
>> changes are made. Developers like Iconfactory and Tapbots (responsible for 
>> Twitterrific and Tweetbot, respectively), received no warning about the 
>> shutdown and were not provided with information on why their apps stopped 
>> working.
>> 
>> Apps like Tweetbot have been around for more than a decade at this point, 
>> with loyal users, full teams of developers, and a major investment in the 
>> social network. Developers have expressed their frustration at Twitter's 
>> decision and lack of communication, as have longtime Twitter users.
>> 
>> MacStories 
>> ,
>>  for example, called Twitter's actions "disgraceful" and "unprofessional," 
>> with Twitter demonstrating a "total lack of respect" for the role that 
>> third-party apps have played in the success of the social network.
>> 
>> Jason Snell called Twitter's actions  "clueless, 
>> classless, and cowardly," and John Gruber said this is likely the end of his 
>> regular usage of Twitter as Twitter's own client is "terrible."
>> 
>> At this point, it isn't clear when or if we're going to get more information 
>> about third-party Twitter clients from Twitter, nor if the apps that have 
>> had their API access revoked will be back in some capacity. Tapbots is now 
>> speeding up development on Ivory 
>> , its app 
>> for the Mastodon social network, and Twitterrific's Craig Hockenberry said 
>> that he will be exploring the concept of a truly universal timeline that 
>> leverages how open standards can be used in "new and different ways."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/17/twitter-third-party-apps-intentionally-blocked/
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi all,

Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please
explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or
eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book?  Thank you.

Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India

On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest
> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating
> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the
> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good
> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI
> Robot, Mac Daily News
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored
> the selection.
>
> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text.
>
> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I
> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.
>
> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Mark
>
> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot
> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a
> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a
> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and
> voice synthesis technologies it developed.
> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:
>
> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with
> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped
> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global
> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.
> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the
> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being
> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator".
>
> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant
> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks.
> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the
> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the
> market.
>
> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be
> heard via Apple Books here.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au
> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/
>
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Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, I actually thought that was a fairly good example of human narration so far.  I can definitely see better in the future. Nothing is better than a human narrator and I don't want narrators jobs taken away by a.i but wow!Lelia Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:AI still has the issues of normal speech synthesis. I was listening to the sample of one, and it couldn't tell the difference between the present and past tense of the word "read." They'll still have pronunciation issues, and I would never want it to read a Brandon Sanderson book.Just imagine:“Szeth-son-son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, wore white on the day he was to kill a king"Yeah no. Alex on the iPhone already has trouble reading some names in harry Potter books and fanfics, like the French school members in the fourth book, like someone who was iconic to the book as Fleur Delacour. And this isn't just on Apple, every TTS voice is going to have problems and I hope Apple lets all authors know that.Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.comOn Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 12:08 AM Dennis Long  wrote:I completely agree.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE 3

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection.
> 
> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text.
> 
> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.
> 
> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed.
> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:
> 
> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.
> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator".
> 
> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks.
> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market.
> 
> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au
> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/
> 
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More with the mac ventura edition

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Once again it is time for More with the Mac!)
I use a PC for work, have been using a Mac for over 12 years, and I feel that 
you can do more with your mac. Audio editing, word processing, continuity 
between all your apple devices, just to name a few. Come on this journey with 
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course. It will be the usual TTJTech team, tag teaming with our good friend 
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Re: Twitter Confirms Third-Party Apps Like Tweetbot Were Intentionally Blocked

[Richard Turner]

Agreed. I deactivated my account as soon as he fired the accessibility team just before he cut the rest of the staff in half and so on and so on. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jan 17, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:Twitter has become crazy. Just get out. Elon Musk is not qualified to own anything, much less a massive social media app, which he has done nothing but rec.Twitter Confirms Third-Party Apps Like Tweetbot Were Intentionally BlockedMacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
Third-party Twitter apps like Tweetbot and Twitterrific have been intentionally blocked from using Twitter APIs, Twitter confirmed today. Without access to the underlying code for the social network, Tweetbot, Twitterrific, Birdie, Echofon, and other popular Twitter clients are non-functional and cannot be used.

Twitter's Dev account today said in a tweet that Twitter is "enforcing its long-standing API rules," a change that could cause some apps not to work. There has been no word on which API rules the blocked Twitter clients have violated, and this is the first time that Twitter has provided insight into what's going on with third-party Twitter apps since they stopped working last Thursday.
When some third-party Twitter apps became unusable last week, it was initially believed that there could be some kind of bug causing the outage. Only the most popular Twitter clients were affected and blocked from Twitter's APIs, perhaps indicating an internal error. As Twitter declined to comment on the situation for days, however, it became clearer that it was an intentional decision. Over the weekend, The Information said that in an internal Slack channel, a senior software engineer at Twitter clarified that the suspensions were done on purpose, suggesting many Twitter employees were not even aware of what was going on.
It is not known why Twitter has provided so little information on what is happening to highly popular third-party Twitter apps that have existed for years, nor if these apps will again be provided with access to the API if changes are made. Developers like Iconfactory and Tapbots (responsible for Twitterrific and Tweetbot, respectively), received no warning about the shutdown and were not provided with information on why their apps stopped working.
Apps like Tweetbot have been around for more than a decade at this point, with loyal users, full teams of developers, and a major investment in the social network. Developers have expressed their frustration at Twitter's decision and lack of communication, as have longtime Twitter users.
MacStories, for example, called Twitter's actions "disgraceful" and "unprofessional," with Twitter demonstrating a "total lack of respect" for the role that third-party apps have played in the success of the social network.
Jason Snell called Twitter's actions "clueless, classless, and cowardly," and John Gruber said this is likely the end of his regular usage of Twitter as Twitter's own client is "terrible."
At this point, it isn't clear when or if we're going to get more information about third-party Twitter clients from Twitter, nor if the apps that have had their API access revoked will be back in some capacity. Tapbots is now speeding up development on Ivory, its app for the Mastodon social network, and Twitterrific's Craig Hockenberry said that he will be exploring the concept of a truly universal timeline that leverages how open standards can be used in "new and different ways."


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Twitter Confirms Third-Party Apps Like Tweetbot Were Intentionally Blocked

[Mary Otten]

Twitter has become crazy. Just get out. Elon Musk is not qualified to own 
anything, much less a massive social media app, which he has done nothing but 
rec.

Twitter Confirms Third-Party Apps Like Tweetbot Were Intentionally Blocked
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover

Third-party Twitter apps like Tweetbot and Twitterrific have been intentionally 
blocked from using Twitter APIs, Twitter confirmed today. Without access to the 
underlying code for the social network, Tweetbot, Twitterrific, Birdie, 
Echofon, and other popular Twitter clients are non-functional and cannot be 
used.


Twitter's Dev account today said in a tweet that Twitter is "enforcing its 
long-standing API rules," a change that could cause some apps not to work. 
There has been no word on which API rules the blocked Twitter clients have 
violated, and this is the first time that Twitter has provided insight into 
what's going on with third-party Twitter apps since they stopped working last 
Thursday.

When some third-party Twitter apps became unusable last week, it was initially 
believed that there could be some kind of bug causing the outage. Only the most 
popular Twitter clients were affected and blocked from Twitter's APIs, perhaps 
indicating an internal error. As Twitter declined to comment on the situation 
for days, however, it became clearer that it was an intentional decision. Over 
the weekend, The Information said that in an internal Slack channel, a senior 
software engineer at Twitter clarified that the suspensions were done on 
purpose, suggesting many Twitter employees were not even aware of what was 
going on.

It is not known why Twitter has provided so little information on what is 
happening to highly popular third-party Twitter apps that have existed for 
years, nor if these apps will again be provided with access to the API if 
changes are made. Developers like Iconfactory and Tapbots (responsible for 
Twitterrific and Tweetbot, respectively), received no warning about the 
shutdown and were not provided with information on why their apps stopped 
working.

Apps like Tweetbot have been around for more than a decade at this point, with 
loyal users, full teams of developers, and a major investment in the social 
network. Developers have expressed their frustration at Twitter's decision and 
lack of communication, as have longtime Twitter users.

MacStories, for example, called Twitter's actions "disgraceful" and 
"unprofessional," with Twitter demonstrating a "total lack of respect" for the 
role that third-party apps have played in the success of the social network.

Jason Snell called Twitter's actions "clueless, classless, and cowardly," and 
John Gruber said this is likely the end of his regular usage of Twitter as 
Twitter's own client is "terrible."

At this point, it isn't clear when or if we're going to get more information 
about third-party Twitter clients from Twitter, nor if the apps that have had 
their API access revoked will be back in some capacity. Tapbots is now speeding 
up development on Ivory, its app for the Mastodon social network, and 
Twitterrific's Craig Hockenberry said that he will be exploring the concept of 
a truly universal timeline that leverages how open standards can be used in 
"new and different ways."



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RE: Printing QardioArm Result history?

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I select the files where I want to change this and just hit alt+h, o, I and 
this autofits the width of the column to the column contents.

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this happens to us too.

If you are on the PC,
Place your cursor in the date column.
Press ALT + H, then O, then W.
JAWS should report the column width as something like 8.43 Type 20 and press 
enter.
That should be wide enough to accommodate the date and time.


>Hi, Group.
>I am trying to print QardioArm history.
>It is a *cvs file that opens in MSXL.
>Jaws17Pro is not reading the date column.
>It says:
>'e 1
>text is obscured
>widen column' instead.
>How can I have Jaws read the date, please?
>Would the paper show the date column if I print the file?
>Thanks!
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Re: Printing QardioArm Result history?

[Ann Byrne]

this happens to us too.

If you are on the PC,
Place your cursor in the date column.
Press ALT + H, then O, then W.
JAWS should report the column width as something like 8.43
Type 20 and press enter.
That should be wide enough to accommodate the date and time.



Hi, Group.
I am trying to print QardioArm history.
It is a *cvs file that opens in MSXL.
Jaws17Pro is not reading the date column.
It says:
'e 1
text is obscured
widen column' instead.
How can I have Jaws read the date, please?
Would the paper show the date column if I print the file?
Thanks!

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Re: Example email where continuous reading inappropriately stops

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
I often find the read all commmand are interrupted partially through where they 
should be reading to. I especially find this occurs when there is a graphic 
that is split between two screens. I think it might also occur more often when 
I am in the “group” presentation mode for VoiceOver instead of the flat mode.

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> On Jan 17, 2023, at 3:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Sure, I'll give it a try.
> Send it to richardr_tur...@comcast.net
> 
> Later,
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Example email where continuous reading inappropriately stops
> 
> I have an example of an email which perfectly exhibits the problem I was 
> talking about a few days ago, where continuous reading started, with two 
> finger flick down, stops when it shouldn’t. I don’t want to forward it to the 
> list, because it’s kind of an ad for some thing that maybe nobody else wants. 
> But if somebody would like to try this out on their phone to see if the thing 
> actually reads all the way through for them, let me know, and I will send it 
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Re: Printing QardioArm Result history?

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This message means that the column is not wide enough for the content of the column. You can change the date format for that column, or make it wider. Use the contextual menu to find the properties of the cell and adjust as you see appropriate.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 17, 2023, at 4:16 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
Hi, Group.I am trying to print QardioArm history.It is a *cvs file that opens in MSXL.Jaws17Pro is not reading the date column.It says:‘e 1text is obscuredwiden column’ instead.How can I have Jaws read the date, please?Would the paper show the date column if I print the file?Thanks!



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Printing QardioArm Result history?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am trying to print QardioArm history.

It is a *cvs file that opens in MSXL.

Jaws17Pro is not reading the date column.

It says:

'e 1
text is obscured
widen column' instead.

How can I have Jaws read the date, please?

Would the paper show the date column if I print the file?

Thanks!

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RE: Example email where continuous reading inappropriately stops

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary,
Sure, I'll give it a try.
Send it to richardr_tur...@comcast.net

Later,


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 12:44 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Example email where continuous reading inappropriately stops

I have an example of an email which perfectly exhibits the problem I was 
talking about a few days ago, where continuous reading started, with two finger 
flick down, stops when it shouldn’t. I don’t want to forward it to the list, 
because it’s kind of an ad for some thing that maybe nobody else wants. But if 
somebody would like to try this out on their phone to see if the thing actually 
reads all the way through for them, let me know, and I will send it to you off 
list.
Mary


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Example email where continuous reading inappropriately stops

[Mary Otten]

I have an example of an email which perfectly exhibits the problem I was 
talking about a few days ago, where continuous reading started, with two finger 
flick down, stops when it shouldn’t. I don’t want to forward it to the list, 
because it’s kind of an ad for some thing that maybe nobody else wants. But if 
somebody would like to try this out on their phone to see if the thing actually 
reads all the way through for them, let me know, and I will send it to you off 
list.
Mary


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RE: are there any replacements for these apps please?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I’m not familiar with these apps, but as Sieghard points out, quite a few ear 
bud or headphone options have a transparency mode. Both my AirPod Pro and 
Earfun ear buds have this feature.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:53 AM
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I also like the Aftershokz Open Com, otherwise you might want to look at 
headphone options which have a transparency mode like Apple Airpods.
Alternatively there are always your good old wired Earpods which are a great 
headset and they barely blocks out any external sound.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi,

I'm not aware of any apps to do what you want but I use Shokz (formerly 
Aftershokz) bone induction headphones for the very same thing. They leave your 
ears open so you can hear your surroundings as normal while you hear the audio 
from your phone through the bone induction headphones. They work very well, 
especially when outdoors.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB Canada


On Jan 17, 2023, at 7:59 AM, goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>>
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hello all,
does anyone know of any working replacements for the apps like "awareness", or 
"uListen"?
for those who haven't heard of these, they were very handy apps, that would let 
you use your iPhone's mic to hear things around you, when using headphones. 
they were handy for things like listening to an audiobook, or playing your 
iPhone games whilst on a train journey, and you would still be able to hear 
things like the station announcements, or when the trolley comes round so that 
you could grab a beer for example.
like so many good apps, they are both now defunked, so am wondering if there 
are any replacement apps, as I have a few long train journeys on the cards for 
this year.

Simon


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RE: are there any replacements for these apps please?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also like the Aftershokz Open Com, otherwise you might want to look at 
headphone options which have a transparency mode like Apple Airpods.
Alternatively there are always your good old wired Earpods which are a great 
headset and they barely blocks out any external sound.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: are there any replacements for these apps please?

Hi,

I'm not aware of any apps to do what you want but I use Shokz (formerly 
Aftershokz) bone induction headphones for the very same thing. They leave your 
ears open so you can hear your surroundings as normal while you hear the audio 
from your phone through the bone induction headphones. They work very well, 
especially when outdoors.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB Canada


On Jan 17, 2023, at 7:59 AM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

hello all,
does anyone know of any working replacements for the apps like "awareness", or 
"uListen"?
for those who haven't heard of these, they were very handy apps, that would let 
you use your iPhone's mic to hear things around you, when using headphones. 
they were handy for things like listening to an audiobook, or playing your 
iPhone games whilst on a train journey, and you would still be able to hear 
things like the station announcements, or when the trolley comes round so that 
you could grab a beer for example.
like so many good apps, they are both now defunked, so am wondering if there 
are any replacement apps, as I have a few long train journeys on the cards for 
this year.

Simon


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Re: are there any replacements for these apps please?

[Dave Clement]

Hi, I'm not aware of any apps to do what you want but I use Shokz (formerly Aftershokz) bone induction headphones for the very same thing. They leave your ears open so you can hear your surroundings as normal while you hear the audio from your phone through the bone induction headphones. They work very well, especially when outdoors. Dave ClementWinnipeg MB CanadaOn Jan 17, 2023, at 7:59 AM, goshawk on horseback  wrote:






hello all, 
does anyone know of any working replacements for 
the apps like "awareness", or "uListen"? 
for those who haven't heard of these, they were 
very handy apps, that would let you use your iPhone's mic to hear things around 
you, when using headphones. they were handy for things like listening to an 
audiobook, or playing your iPhone games whilst on a train journey, and 
you would still be able to hear things like the station announcements, or when 
the trolley comes round so that you could grab a beer for example. 
like so many good apps, they are both now defunked, 
so am wondering if there are any replacement apps, as I have a few long train 
journeys on the cards for this year. 
 
Simon 
 
 



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Re: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Robert Doc Wright]

I'm going to be brave and check them out.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?


Hello All,

Okay, I received the second headband Bluetooth headset, earlier today, and I 
absolutely love them.  The fit is amazing, the micro-fiber material from 
which they are made is stretchable and the quality of the hardware is far 
superior than the first set I tried.


Unlike the first set, which I returned, this new set is USBC compatible.

I agree with one of the 44000 reviewers who stated that this brand must be 
the original company from which all of the knock-offs, sprang.


Here is the Amazon description along with the Amazon, US link:

Perytong Sleep Headphones Wireless, Bluetooth Sports Headband Headphones 
with Ultra-Thin HD Stereo Speakers Perfect for Sleeping, Workout, Jogging, 
Yoga, Insomnia, Air Travel, Meditation.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08R7439SN?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_GHR7N550GET3XZ87DHH9

Enjoy,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 10:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi Sieghard,

Yes, it was some kind of micro-fiber but it had almost no give / stretch at 
all.It felt more like a tourniquet than a headband, (smile).


I just looked it up and the brand was CenGoes.  As I said, the cost was $12 
USD.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

When you say "band" what material is that? The ones we have are some sort of 
microfiber or other fabric.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hello Sieghard and Everyone,

Sieghard, I ordered the Bluetooth set of the wireless sleep headband you 
mentioned and for which you provided a link.


I could not use the link you provided to order the set but copied the brand 
name and found what I believe to be a similar set from a company.  The pair 
I purchased costs $16, American, $12 after a $4 discount.  The pair I 
ordered had about 300 Amazon reviews.  One of the features that people like 
is the fact that they fit snuggly around the head.


While I liked the sound of the earphones, the band was just too tight for 
comfort.  (I guess I have a big head, eh?)  (smile).


So, I returned them and ordered a mainstream brand, one that is marked as 
Amazon Choice with over 44000 reviews at 4.3 out of 5 stars.  They should be 
here on Tuesday.  The design is a little bit different but the concept is 
the same.


Once I find a pair that I like, I will post a link to the group, in this 
thread.


Mark




-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi Sieghard,

Great  Thank you for posting the link to these.

I was afraid of purchasing the wrong model.

“You’re a good man, Charlie Brown.”  (smile).

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

No highs and no lows, must be Bose

Anyways, I tried to look up the Bose Sleep Pods you mentioned and all I 
could find was references and reviews for a product called Bose Sleepbuds 
which is some sort of noise cancelling, white noise-making gadget which most 
reviews say is way overpriced.


Here is a link on Amazon Canada for a set of the wireless sleep headband I 
mentioned before and they don't break the bank:


https://www.amazon.ca/Bluetooth-Headband-Headphones-Wireless-Sleeping/dp/B0B45VPMT4/ref=sr_1_14?crid=2ER2YK4XT7K9S=bose+sleep+pods=1673244663=bose+sleep+pods%2Caps%2C137=8-14


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From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 7:16 PM
To: mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hello Simon,

Your post made me smile.

I will definitely check out those sleep pods.

I have never herd of them, until now.

Thank  you.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 10:08 PM
To: mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi mark,

Um, don't go choaking yourself with the headphone cable,

But hey, why do you wear headphones when in bed?

Wouldn't it be simpler to just have the phone playing audio beside you!?

But the airpods are 

are there any replacements for these apps please?

[goshawk on horseback]

hello all, 
does anyone know of any working replacements for the apps like "awareness", or 
"uListen"? 
for those who haven't heard of these, they were very handy apps, that would let 
you use your iPhone's mic to hear things around you, when using headphones. 
they were handy for things like listening to an audiobook, or playing your 
iPhone games whilst on a train journey, and you would still be able to hear 
things like the station announcements, or when the trolley comes round so that 
you could grab a beer for example. 
like so many good apps, they are both now defunked, so am wondering if there 
are any replacement apps, as I have a few long train journeys on the cards for 
this year. 

Simon 

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