Reacquainting myself with Apple keyboard

2023-03-20 Thread Dan Yates
Hi everyone, I have pulled out my Apple keyboard and paired it with my iPhone 
12 mini with no problem. Now I need to reacquaint myself with all the keys, 
etc. etc. what’s the best way to do this? Is there a keyboard command anybody 
can remind me of two set my keyboard to training mode, so I can learn where the 
keys are.
Thanks for any help
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/41BB92BE-9CA1-418A-9872-CAB94B25142A%40gmail.com.


Re: Reacquainting myself with Apple keyboard

2023-03-20 Thread Michael Irons
You could press control an option in the K and that will get you into voiceover 
help with a keyboard what’s your in the help or you can press any key on the 
keyboard and it should tell you what it does.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I have pulled out my Apple keyboard and paired it with my 
> iPhone 12 mini with no problem. Now I need to reacquaint myself with all the 
> keys, etc. etc. what’s the best way to do this? Is there a keyboard command 
> anybody can remind me of two set my keyboard to training mode, so I can learn 
> where the keys are.
> Thanks for any help
> Dan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/41BB92BE-9CA1-418A-9872-CAB94B25142A%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8DA6D33E-A018-4D6B-B583-88093D83BECD%40gmail.com.


Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread Kimberly
Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%40gmail.com.


RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi, I use Any List. You can make all kinds of list including shopping, anything 
you can imagine. Andy and Leroy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1c6f01d95b42%240386b7f0%240a9427d0%24%40comcast.net.


Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

2023-03-20 Thread Kerry Macdonald
It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them.KerrySent from my iPhoneOn Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb the Contant.  If these books become available in this format then I’m all for itJODYTo Boldly Go  🖖🏻 thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find itBegin forwarded message:From: Barbara Stahl Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM ESTTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily NewsI listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good.  But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me.  And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet.  Its disgusting.  On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:I completely agree.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone SE 3On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come.Alan Lemly-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily NewsHello Everyone,I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection.I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text.While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.Enjoy,MarkApple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed.By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator".Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks.Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market.MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here.Original Article at:https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-audiobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphon

RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can use the Reminders app. I made a list called "Shopping" and I can add 
items and if I double tap them they get marked as completed and disappear. If 
later on I want to buy these items again I an select to show completed items 
and then I simply go through my list of items and double tap them again which 
once I hide completed items makes them show up again and I again can tap them 
in the store as I get the items. I am sure AnyList may have more powerful 
options and all that, but for me this simple method works quite well. If you 
need to share the list with somebody you can also do that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi, I use Any List. You can make all kinds of list including shopping, anything 
you can imagine. Andy and Leroy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1c6f01d95b42%240386b7f0%240a9427d0%24%40comcast.net.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D97C844C12333431A5FCC7809%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.


Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

2023-03-20 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and
refuse to read them.  I also use bookshare.  They have books that I
couldn't get anywhere else.  I can either listen to different TTS
voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and
can read the books in braille.  It is my choice, and a great one to
have.  TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we
have access to, the better.

On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be
> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years
> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream,
> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I
> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading
> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to
> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is
> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if
> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them.
>
>
> Kerry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new
>> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time
>> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any
>> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I
>> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb
>> the Contant.
>>
>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it
>>
>> JODY
>>
>> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
>>
>>
>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>
>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>
>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks
>>> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
 From: Barbara Stahl 
 Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by
 an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

 I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is
 surprisingly good.  But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better
 than human narration for me.  And its totally wrong for companies to try
 to replace people with robots just for profet.  Its disgusting.

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>
>
> I completely agree.
>
>
>
>
> Dennis Long
>
> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the
>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by
>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated
>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll
>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years
>> to come.
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> M. Taylor
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an
>> AI Robot, Mac Daily News
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and
>> explored the selection.
>>
>>
>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the
>> text.
>>
>>
>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to
>> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.
>>
>>
>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.
>>
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot
>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly
>> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has
>> quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using
>> artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed.
>>
>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:
>>
>>
>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years,
>> with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last
>> year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders
>> believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.
>>
>> On the compa

RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

2023-03-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Like you said, it's a matter of choice. I've pulled up books in Kindle and read 
them with a TTS, but all things being equal, I'd prefer a human reader. I don't 
have a problem with people preferring a human reader, since as you said, it's 
their choice.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI 
Robot, Mac Daily News

I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and refuse 
to read them.  I also use bookshare.  They have books that I couldn't get 
anywhere else.  I can either listen to different TTS voices read them to me in 
voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and can read the books in braille.  It is 
my choice, and a great one to have.  TTS voices are getting better and better 
and the more books we have access to, the better.

On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be 
> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for 
> years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as 
> voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At 
> least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me 
> the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was 
> just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came 
> to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will 
> have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t 
> have to use them.
>
>
> Kerry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing 
>> new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is 
>> extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are 
>> not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to 
>> listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound 
>> of the voice and just absorb the Contant.
>>
>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it
>>
>> JODY
>>
>> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
>>
>>
>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>
>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>
>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of 
>>> audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
 From: Barbara Stahl 
 Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks 
 Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

 I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is 
 surprisingly good.  But I completely agree, nothing could ever be 
 better than human narration for me.  And its totally wrong for 
 companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet.  Its 
 disgusting.

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>
>
> I completely agree.
>
>
>
>
> Dennis Long
>
> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the 
>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction 
>> by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI 
>> narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one 
>> and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated 
>> audio for many years to come.
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced 
>> by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books 
>> and explored the selection.
>>
>>
>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the 
>> text.
>>
>>
>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to 
>> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.
>>
>>
>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.
>>
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI 
>> robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM App

RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can also include a list in a note in the Notes app. I also like the To Do 
app from Microsoft.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

You can use the Reminders app. I made a list called "Shopping" and I can add 
items and if I double tap them they get marked as completed and disappear. If 
later on I want to buy these items again I an select to show completed items 
and then I simply go through my list of items and double tap them again which 
once I hide completed items makes them show up again and I again can tap them 
in the store as I get the items. I am sure AnyList may have more powerful 
options and all that, but for me this simple method works quite well. If you 
need to share the list with somebody you can also do that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi, I use Any List. You can make all kinds of list including shopping, anything 
you can imagine. Andy and Leroy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for an accessible list making app. I'll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
" those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be." Viet Thanh Nguyen

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gQ8iXDSZeRr2yfoFknHGjyi6YEjzx3o6jyaDQuOW1ME%3D&reserved=0
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%2540gmail.com&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PDpTsmxeVcRRe3f7Xn5R4BnXcHDFZhbs%2FY67%2F68IE70%3D&reserved=0.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gQ8iXDSZeRr2yfoFknHGjyi6YEjzx3o6jyaDQuOW1ME%3D&reserved=0
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F1c6f01d95b42%25240386b7f0%25240a9427d0%2524%2540comcast.net&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi

Re: Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread William James
And all is accessible, not inaccessible. See subject line.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> You can also include a list in a note in the Notes app. I also like the To 
> Do app from Microsoft.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app
> 
> You can use the Reminders app. I made a list called "Shopping" and I can add 
> items and if I double tap them they get marked as completed and disappear. If 
> later on I want to buy these items again I an select to show completed items 
> and then I simply go through my list of items and double tap them again which 
> once I hide completed items makes them show up again and I again can tap them 
> in the store as I get the items. I am sure AnyList may have more powerful 
> options and all that, but for me this simple method works quite well. If you 
> need to share the list with somebody you can also do that.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
> J. LaPointe
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 8:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app
> 
> Hi, I use Any List. You can make all kinds of list including shopping, 
> anything you can imagine. Andy and Leroy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm looking for an accessible list making app. I'll be using it on my iPhone 
> running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping 
> lists.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> " those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be." Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gQ8iXDSZeRr2yfoFknHGjyi6YEjzx3o6jyaDQuOW1ME%3D&reserved=0
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%2540gmail.com&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PDpTsmxeVcRRe3f7Xn5R4BnXcHDFZhbs%2FY67%2F68IE70%3D&reserved=0.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C6b8bc2ad63964501bc1f08db296db15a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638149323323956987%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gQ8iXDSZeRr2yfoFknHGjyi6YEjzx3o6jyaDQuOW1ME%3D&reserved=0
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://na0

Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

2023-03-20 Thread William James
I can deal with specific TTS voices reading to me.  I like James in VDR.  
However, I do not think I would like Microsoft Sam or Eloquence reading to me a 
book I want to enjoy.  You old timers will remember Microsoft Sam.  LOL!

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and
> refuse to read them.  I also use bookshare.  They have books that I
> couldn't get anywhere else.  I can either listen to different TTS
> voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and
> can read the books in braille.  It is my choice, and a great one to
> have.  TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we
> have access to, the better.
> 
>> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
>> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be
>> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years
>> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream,
>> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I
>> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading
>> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to
>> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is
>> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if
>> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them.
>> 
>> 
>> Kerry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new
>>> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time
>>> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any
>>> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I
>>> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb
>>> the Contant.
>>> 
>>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it
>>> 
>>> JODY
>>> 
>>> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl 
 wrote:
 
 
 The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks
 using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Barbara Stahl 
> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by
> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
> 
> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is
> surprisingly good.  But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better
> than human narration for me.  And its totally wrong for companies to try
> to replace people with robots just for profet.  Its disgusting.
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I completely agree.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Long
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the
>>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by
>>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated
>>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll
>>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years
>>> to come.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> M. Taylor
>>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM
>>> 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an
>>> AI Robot, Mac Daily News
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and
>>> explored the selection.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the
>>> text.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to
>>> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot
>>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly
>>> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has
>>> quietly lau

RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread R Van Lant
I like Repeat Check.  Someone on this list recommended it years ago and it's 
been really helpful. I have all sorts of lists from gift ideas, to movies I 
want to see, questions to ask my doctor at my next visit, and places I want to 
visit and so on. As someone described doing with the Reminders app, this app by 
design lets you double tap to mark the item as complete, then you can move it 
back to the top if you want to start over. I don’t' use this for shopping, but 
I could definitely see how you'd have  a list of core things, mark them off as 
you get them, then bring them back to the list when you want to buy them again. 
 Double tapping marks as complete or a flick up gets you to a place to quickly 
delete the item. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR14MB471635369184EA2F71D59054AF819%40MW4PR14MB4716.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.


RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

2023-03-20 Thread Jeff Samco
Repeat Check sounds like an app worth checking out. Using those terms I found 
nothing in the Apple app store. Can you verify this is the app name? Who is the 
developer?

Thanks,
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for inaccessible list making app

I like Repeat Check.  Someone on this list recommended it years ago and it's 
been really helpful. I have all sorts of lists from gift ideas, to movies I 
want to see, questions to ask my doctor at my next visit, and places I want to 
visit and so on. As someone described doing with the Reminders app, this app by 
design lets you double tap to mark the item as complete, then you can move it 
back to the top if you want to start over. I don’t' use this for shopping, but 
I could definitely see how you'd have  a list of core things, mark them off as 
you get them, then bring them back to the list when you want to buy them again. 
 Double tapping marks as complete or a flick up gets you to a place to quickly 
delete the item. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for inaccessible list making app

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an accessible list making app. I’ll be using it on my iPhone 
running the current iOS version and its primary use will be for shopping lists.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3DB2B415-8F3C-4E26-B00F-E752C3205E96%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR14MB471635369184EA2F71D59054AF819%40MW4PR14MB4716.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f801d95baf%24493deda0%24dbb9c8e0%24%40jps.net.


Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

2023-03-20 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I actually like eloquence.  I've been using it on my computers for
years.  I even had E-speek as my iPhone voice over voice for a while
because it could go so fast.  Eloquence doesn't sound quite as good on
the iPhone, as it does on my computer, but pretty close.  I would have
no problem having eloquence for reading a bookshare book to me.
However, there are some great voices to choose from.  There are even
children voices from acapela.  Although having one of those voices
read a bookshare book to me I think would be a little weird.

On 3/20/23, William James  wrote:
> I can deal with specific TTS voices reading to me.  I like James in VDR.
> However, I do not think I would like Microsoft Sam or Eloquence reading to
> me a book I want to enjoy.  You old timers will remember Microsoft Sam.
> LOL!
>
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>
>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and
>> refuse to read them.  I also use bookshare.  They have books that I
>> couldn't get anywhere else.  I can either listen to different TTS
>> voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and
>> can read the books in braille.  It is my choice, and a great one to
>> have.  TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we
>> have access to, the better.
>>
>>> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
>>> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be
>>> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for
>>> years
>>> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice
>>> dream,
>>> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I
>>> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading
>>> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able
>>> to
>>> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It
>>> is
>>> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and
>>> if
>>> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerry
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi 
 wrote:

 I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing
 new
 technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time
 consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in
 any
 other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I
 really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just
 absorb
 the Contant.

 If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it

 JODY

 To Boldly Go  🖖🏻


 thunderwalker...@gmail.com

 "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
  Erik Weihenmayer

> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl
> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of
> audiobooks
> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Barbara Stahl 
>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced
>> by
>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
>>
>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is
>> surprisingly good.  But I completely agree, nothing could ever be
>> better
>> than human narration for me.  And its totally wrong for companies to
>> try
>> to replace people with robots just for profet.  Its disgusting.
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I completely agree.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis Long
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>
 On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


 While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the
 highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction
 by
 eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated
 book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope
 we'll
 continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many
 years
 to come.


 Alan Lemly


 -Original Message-

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of
 M. Taylor

 Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by
 an
 AI Robot, Mac Daily News


 Hello Everyone,


 I was Fasc