Re: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
If you can't type braille, that is a good reason why the Hable
wouldn't be for you.  The cost of the Hable is $350.  It is expensive,
but very worth it.  You can do so much more with it, then just type
text messages.  I don't even have to be touching my phone, and I can
use the hable to control all aspects of my phone.

On 8/29/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> What does this Hable 1 cost not that I want to use a braille keyboard and in
> many situations I couldn't even if I wanted to because of hand injuries, but
> if I remembe rcorrectly it is a pretty expensive device and if I have to
> spend half as much as my iPhone costs just so I can use it effectively then
> to me that is not attractive.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 6:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: siri sucks.
>
> The Hable one is the best braille  keyboard around
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 5:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>
> One option is to not use dictation at all, and if you know braille, to get a
> hable one bluetooth keyboard.  Another bluetooth qwerty keyboard would work
> as well.
>
> On 8/28/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty
>> accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older
>> phone, a
>> 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things
>> like open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back
>> with really strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never
>> screws up is Open the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be
>>> somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
>>>
>>> One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between
>>> "Flour"
>>> and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour"
>>> and it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
>>>
>>> English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it
>>> comes to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always
>>> 100% accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same
>>> but are totally different. As for the above example, "flower" in German
>>> is "Blume"
>>> and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but
>>> certainly not the majority of the time.
>>>
>>> I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly
>>> than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several
>>> times what I want to say in my head before dictating.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA
>>>
>>> ——
>>>
>>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John
>>> Wesley
>>>
>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto
  wrote:

 Hello all,



 Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use
 siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in
 their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is
 getting very irritating.



 TIA in advance for your help.

 Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
 Jenny Bomareto


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RE: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
What does this Hable 1 cost not that I want to use a braille keyboard and in 
many situations I couldn't even if I wanted to because of hand injuries, but if 
I remembe rcorrectly it is a pretty expensive device and if I have to spend 
half as much as my iPhone costs just so I can use it effectively then to me 
that is not attractive.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: siri sucks.

The Hable one is the best braille  keyboard around 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri sucks.

One option is to not use dictation at all, and if you know braille, to get a 
hable one bluetooth keyboard.  Another bluetooth qwerty keyboard would work as 
well.

On 8/28/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty 
> accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older 
> phone, a
> 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things 
> like open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back 
> with really strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never 
> screws up is Open the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be 
>> somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
>>
>> One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour"
>> and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" 
>> and it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
>>
>> English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it 
>> comes to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 
>> 100% accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same 
>> but are totally different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is 
>> "Blume"
>> and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>>
>>
>>
>> When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but 
>> certainly not the majority of the time.
>>
>> I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly 
>> than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several 
>> times what I want to say in my head before dictating.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>>
>> ——
>>
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
>> Wesley
>>
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use 
>>> siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in 
>>> their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is 
>>> getting very irritating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
A keyboard maybe fine if you are at home a lot, but I use my phone a lot when I 
am out and about, I may need to send or reply to a text while I am walking with 
my dog and in those situations a keyboard just is not a solution. I also feel 
that a powerful and small device such as an iPhone should not require me to lug 
along all sorts of other expensive gear to use it efficiently. Anyways, 
dictation for the most part works well enough especially if you are a bit 
practiced in it and by that I mean exactly what Richard said, makek sure you 
know what you want to say before you just start and then you end up with 
strange sentence structure, little or no punctuation and so on.Being blind is 
no excuse for not using proper capitalization, punctuation, grammar and 
spelling.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri sucks.

One option is to not use dictation at all, and if you know braille, to get a 
hable one bluetooth keyboard.  Another bluetooth qwerty keyboard would work as 
well.

On 8/28/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty 
> accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older 
> phone, a
> 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things 
> like open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back 
> with really strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never 
> screws up is Open the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be 
>> somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
>>
>> One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour"
>> and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" 
>> and it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
>>
>> English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it 
>> comes to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 
>> 100% accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same 
>> but are totally different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is 
>> "Blume"
>> and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>>
>>
>>
>> When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but 
>> certainly not the majority of the time.
>>
>> I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly 
>> than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several 
>> times what I want to say in my head before dictating.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>>
>> ——
>>
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
>> Wesley
>>
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use 
>>> siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in 
>>> their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is 
>>> getting very irritating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch

2023-08-28 Thread Donald Raikes 
Hi Anna and Malcolm,

I had the same question. I want to use my apple watch to track my
sleep but I don't want the watch talking throughout the night if I
move.

With these settings turned off, do I have to tap the watch to get it to talk?

On 8/21/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Terri,
>
> Turn off Speak on Wrist Raise either in VoiceOver Settings on the watch or
> in the Watch app on your phone. Then VoiceOver will only speak when you wake
> the watch.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:26 AM, Terri Stimmel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I just have a quick question, or two, regarding my Apple watch.
>>
>>
>> Is there a way to set it, or a way to enable it, so that the watch won't
>> speak, if the face is touched?
>>
>> Or, just if I move my arm in a certain way?
>>
>>
>> This always seems to be happening to me. Which in most cases is fine.
>>
>>
>> However, I will be attending college soon, and I do not want my watch
>> going off all the time. The yammering would not be appreciated by others,
>> that is for sure. LOL!
>>
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
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RE: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Dennis Long 
The Hable one is the best braille  keyboard around 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri sucks.

One option is to not use dictation at all, and if you know braille, to get a 
hable one bluetooth keyboard.  Another bluetooth qwerty keyboard would work as 
well.

On 8/28/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty 
> accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older 
> phone, a
> 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things 
> like open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back 
> with really strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never 
> screws up is Open the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be 
>> somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
>>
>> One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour"
>> and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" 
>> and it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
>>
>> English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it 
>> comes to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 
>> 100% accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same 
>> but are totally different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is 
>> "Blume"
>> and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>>
>>
>>
>> When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but 
>> certainly not the majority of the time.
>>
>> I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly 
>> than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several 
>> times what I want to say in my head before dictating.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>>
>> ——
>>
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
>> Wesley
>>
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use 
>>> siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in 
>>> their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is 
>>> getting very irritating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread danneyyates 
I’m struggling with same, rewords my texts so that I have to take time to go 
back in and edit to my original message.

Dan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: siri sucks.

 

Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be somewhat  
more accurate in iOS 17.

One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour" and 
"flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" and it will 
always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".

English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it comes to 
stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 100% accurate 
because there aren't so many words which sound the same but are totally 
different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is "Blume" and "flour" 
is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: siri sucks.

 

When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but certainly not 
the majority of the time. 

I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly than I 
would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several times what I want 
to say in my head before dictating.

HTH, 

 

Richard, USA 

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(Sent from my iPhone)

 

On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
mailto:jennybomareto.from.flor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

 

Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri for 
dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I also don't 
have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very irritating.

 

TIA in advance for your help.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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Re: Having trouble downloading, premium voices to my new SE.

2023-08-28 Thread Mike B. 
Is it possible that your download speed is too slow / an ISP problems 
perhaps?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 2:07 PM
Subject: Having trouble downloading, premium voices to my new SE.


Hi, I am having trouble downloading the Australian and US premium voices to 
my new iPhone SE. I have reset my network settings and done a hard reset on 
the phone as well as various other things. I have an Apple accessibility 
support person helping me, has anyone had this problem? Any thoughts would 
be appreciated.




Kerry


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Re: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
One option is to not use dictation at all, and if you know braille, to
get a hable one bluetooth keyboard.  Another bluetooth qwerty keyboard
would work as well.

On 8/28/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty
> accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older phone, a
> 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things like
> open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back with really
> strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never screws up is Open
> the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be
>> somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
>>
>> One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour"
>> and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" and
>> it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
>>
>> English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it comes
>> to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 100%
>> accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same but are
>> totally different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is "Blume"
>> and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>>
>>
>>
>> When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but certainly
>> not the majority of the time.
>>
>> I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly than
>> I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several times what
>> I want to say in my head before dictating.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>>
>> ——
>>
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>>
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri
>>> for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I
>>> also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very
>>> irritating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>>
>>>
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Re: Can’t get premium and enhanced voices to download on my new SE 2022.

2023-08-28 Thread joseph hudson 
Hello, I had this happened to me once before, too. And so what I did, is, I 
selected the voice I wanted, once the voice was selected, I shut down the 
phone, and then I brought it back up. And all was well.

> On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, I just purchased a new SE 2022 to weeks ago. No matter what I try 
> I cannot get the Karen premium or enhanced or the Nathan enhanced voices to 
> download to this phone. I have done a hard reset on the phone, reset my 
> network, make sure there is plenty of space on the phone and an iCloud, and 
> another couple of things as well. Any thoughts or suggestions? I have not 
> heard of anyone else having this problem. I am working with Apple 
> accessibility, and we are trying some different things, but nothing has 
> worked. Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts.
> 
> 
> Kerry
> 
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Having trouble downloading, premium voices to my new SE.

2023-08-28 Thread Kerry Macdonald 
Hi, I am having trouble downloading the Australian and US premium voices to my 
new iPhone SE. I have reset my network settings and done a hard reset on the 
phone as well as various other things. I have an Apple accessibility support 
person helping me, has anyone had this problem? Any thoughts would be 
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Re: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Mary Otten 
I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older phone, a 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things like open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back with really strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never screws up is Open the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.MarySent from my iPhoneOn Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour" and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" and it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it comes to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 100% accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same but are totally different. As
 for the above example, "flower" in German is "Blume" and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri sucks.


 
When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but certainly not the majority of the time. 

I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several times what I want to say in my head before dictating.


HTH, 


 


Richard, USA 


——


"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley


(Sent from my iPhone)







On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:




Hello all,

 


Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very irritating.


 


TIA in advance for your help.


Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto



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Can’t get premium and enhanced voices to download on my new SE 2022.

2023-08-28 Thread Kerry Macdonald 
Hi all, I just purchased an iPhone SE 2022. No matter what I try I cannot get 
the Karen premium or Nathan enhanced voice is to download. I am working with 
Apple accessibility, and we have tried hard, resetting the phone, resetting my 
networks, checking for storage space on the phone and the cloud, and a number  
of other things in settings. Nothing has worked, has anyone had this problem or 
has any ideas or thoughts about this? Thanks.



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RE: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be somewhat  
more accurate in iOS 17.
One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour" and 
"flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" and it will 
always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it comes to 
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because there aren't so many words which sound the same but are totally 
different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is "Blume" and "flour" 
is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri sucks.

When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but certainly not 
the majority of the time.
I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly than I 
would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several times what I want 
to say in my head before dictating.
HTH,

Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
 wrote:
Hello all,

Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri for 
dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I also don't 
have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very irritating.

TIA in advance for your help.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Can’t get premium and enhanced voices to download on my new SE 2022.

2023-08-28 Thread Kerry Macdonald 
Hello all, I just purchased a new SE 2022 to weeks ago. No matter what I try I 
cannot get the Karen premium or enhanced or the Nathan enhanced voices to 
download to this phone. I have done a hard reset on the phone, reset my 
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Re: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Richard Turner 
When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but certainly not the majority of the time. I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several times what I want to say in my head before dictating.HTH, Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:Hello all,Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very irritating.TIA in advance for your help.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone



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Re: siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Elizabeth Ulrich 
What I have done is when I am sending a text or an email is hold down the button and wait a few seconds after the ding sound. I am finding that if I talk to Seri too quickly, she has a comprehension problem. Sent from my iPhone Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1On Aug 28, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:Hello all,Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very irritating.TIA in advance for your help.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone



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siri sucks.

2023-08-28 Thread Jenny Bomareto 
Hello all,

Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use siri for 
dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in their.  I also don't 
have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is getting very irritating.

TIA in advance for your help.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: navigating my Iphone with my braille display

2023-08-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
Yes, you'll need to use VoiceOver's braille commands.

Richard Turner has a nice list on his web site in a few different formats. 
https://www.turner42.com/


You can also find a list of braille keyboard commands for your braille display 
by going into Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Commands and then 
selecting your braille display in the Braille Devices section.

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Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: navigating my Iphone with my braille display

Hi Group,

I just purchased a focus 40 braille display. I am very new at it. I have read 
the manual but am a bit confused. Some of the keystrokes they mentioned don't 
work with the display when it is connected to the iPhone. Are there a separate 
set of keystrokes for the display when using it with the iPhone?

In any case, I got into a situation where the configuration menu should launch 
with the press of the menu key, but it does not.  I tried the various 
lock/unlock keystrokes and they don't seem to unlock anything.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


On 8/27/2023 4:46 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn wrote:
> Please refresh my memory.   What is your url?
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner 
> Date: 08/27/2023 05:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: navigating my Iphone with my braille display
>
>
> I have a fairly complete list of braille commands on my website at work with 
> most displays.
> The one you want in particular is space with the letter, O to go on one page 
> to the right and space  with the contraction OW to go one page to the left.
>
> Richard, USA
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> Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
>> On Aug 27, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an Iphone 13 and a Braille Sense U2. How do I navigate between
>> pages on my Iphone? When I try and swipe up once I'm at the end of
>> page 1, it just keeps taking me to the spotlight area? I want to be
>> able to get to apps on the other pages on my phone with my Braille
>> Sense.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dacia
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